One of the better historians WIRED has hosted. This man came prepared with props, and visual guides and was ready to answer the questions. Truly a model other historians should strive to replicate if hosted to answer questions to such a large audience.
Agreed, excellent historian. I only have a couple items to add: Canvas pistol pockets were also installed due to gun heat. Standoffs in a duel can happen because reflex is often faster than intentional action.
I absolutely LOVE how Mr. Gardner spoke about the Indigenous people!!! He made sure to point out they were not monsters but people protecting their loved ones. Amazing!!!!
11:42 My great-great-grandfather was a black Buffalo soldier, 10th Calvary Regiment of the US Army. He was part of the rescue team to save lost soldiers during the Buffalo Soldier Tragedy of 1877.
I love how he doesnt try and frame it as some beautiful perfect time. He even admits the Native Americans were fighting to protect their families. I trust this guy.
“Admits”? I’m pretty sure that’s the general impression most people have, and has been for many years now. In fact, I think if anything we tend to approach our historical view of the Natives with a bit too much generosity.
Still says Indians because being afraid of the term is stupid but doesn't pretend custard wasn't literally trying to perform an extermination. They were literally defending their families outside their homes. Many still use the term Indian and many organizations still bear that name. The only truly consistent preference is for someone to be referred to under the name of their tribe or nation
There is no such thing as a "Native American" . Amerindians are a mixture of Ancient East Asian and Paleolithic Siberian people. You call them by their own tribe names, or simply Amerindians.
For those wondering, he is playing "Turkey In The Straw" and the style of banjo he is playing is called "Clawhammer". I find this helpful because once I was on the side of wondering the names of styles and songs.
9:14 When Sitting Bull saw Oakley perform, he was so impressed by her sharpshooting skills that he adopted her as his daughter, giving her the Lakota name "Watanya Cicilla" which means "Little Sure Shot."
As a European I'm always so amazed about how "recent" the wild west was. It just seems like a completely different era when comparing with cities like New-York during the same period or Europe. Its probably the effect of the non industrialisation I guess.
@@runitupteoteo5534Some Americans immigrated west even back in the late 1700’s, the typical legendary “old west” though takes place in a narrow period, much like the golden age of pirates.
More details about the REAL Tombstone! Doc Holiday probably saved a lot of lives ringing that dinner bell for the "dudes" with top hats, lol. "Please, rob me."
That was TOO SHORT! I could listen to Mr. Gardner all day. Not only is the stuff he talks about SO INTERESTING, but he has a way of narrating that's just so entertaining, it's like a superpower. I would add some kind of campfire, and dim the lights a bit, sit down comfy, and listen. I can't imagine all the awesome stories Mr. Gardner has in his head. And I LOVE THE BANJO/SINGING BITS. Please bring Mr. Gardner and his violin playing sidekick back. PLEASE! 🥰
I came across this video randomly and it was SO engaging. I really like the way Mark Lee Gardner speaks and presents the stories and information. He really came prepared.
This was SUCH an amazing episode. He is a wonderful educator -- passionate and knowledgeable about his subject with the gift of entertaining and effective communication. As a teacher, it's so cool to watch amazing educators do their thing.
I love how much respect he gives to Native American peoples and their plight during this period, its very rare to see in any discussions around the Wild West, or colonial American history in general. Fantastic video!
Native American history is so incredible and important, there is so much information about the land we live on that they know, the way they used diffrent forms of substance farming and the cultivation of what Europeans saw as vast wastes is mind blowing. I’ve gotten to listen to a few really knowledgeable member of tribes in the pnw and it’s so cool
No the MOMENT the Wild West or cowboys are brought up, I IMMEDIATELY think of American colonization. We MUST bring it up, We are still here! We are still affected by these "Cowboy" V "Indian" tropes/fake narratives.
I was very pleased at how respectful he was toward the Native American Peoples when he talked about them. He obviously holds a lot of reverence for them.
@@beenaplumber8379 Other way around, the uneducated are more likely to discount Native Americans. Anyone educated in history knows to respect these people and what they were able to accomplish. Most of their history has been intentionally destroyed or altered.
@@beenaplumber8379I think so. I feel like many of us grew up with either an overt “the Indians were savages and we conquered them and fulfilled our destiny” or “we modernized the land as we expanded west” as if they were unintelligent, uncivilized people. Racism isn’t always in your face, calling people slurs- a lot of times it’s the way we speak about people, even in a “nice” or “academic” way like I was taught growing up.
Possibly my favorite episode of tech support i’ve ever watched. this period of history is absolutely fascinating to me, and to have such an awesome host to present it was icing on the cake. please make another episode!
About the Navajo: "They learned to live off the land with what nature provided them, they made very good use of, and at the same time made it very beautiful"
@@AFS-ht7bg if he hadn't been fool enough to divide his forces into 3 groups there would not have been nearly the inequality of forces. It's called poor generalship and is studied in military colleges worldwide to this day.
@@mybrainmelted Afaik "Native Americans" is actually less respectful just because the tribes never called themselves Americans, only some tribes prefer that. Most prefer "Indians" or being referred to by tribe name specifically (best practice), but when referring to multiple tribes Indians makes sense. It's just weird because it's based on a mistake of identifying the continent as India, but it stuck.
There’s actually an interesting video by CGP Grey covering this exact topic on what terminology is used and preferred based on geography and ethnicity.
As a Salish-Kootenai native, I appreciate how you rephrased the question about Custer's battles. I am very glad to see that you recognize what the indigenous people of our country had to face. Reminding viewers that they were only protecting themselves and their families really gets to the core of things. Our country was founded on the blood of indigenous lives cut short by colonizers and greed. Thank you for this.
I live near Tombstone and I go down there any time I can. The town is so kind and fun, and they do recreations of the OK Corral shootout throughout the day. The Birdhouse Theatre is also super fun, there I learned that Frank Sinatra sang in it while it was abandoned because it was "a dream of his".
My god this man is a hoot and a holler. What an awesome communicator. I’ve never had too much interest in the wild west, but this video has definitely sparked my curiosity. Thank you Mr. Gardner!!
btw theres a youtuber "Real Pixels" who goes through every chapter of Red Dead 2 and breaks down its accuracy and references in EXTREME detail for those interested
I’m norm and raised in Texas, as well as my family all own land. My family has a long line of vaqueros, in Mexico and now in Texas. The old west fascinates me
Well, I'll be ! Just happened to hit on this website to see my dear friend Mark and his son. I watched the whole thing and learned a thing or two. Great episode Mark ! Good seeing ya !
He was probably the best expert that ever came to WIRED Tech Support, such an entertaining video and he has a very good way of explaining things. Part 2 with him please!
He’s so solid for reframing the Wild West to the Native American’s perspective of literally defending their culture. True allyship of telling history correctly with the right perspective.
"...telling history correctly with the right perspective" is a pretty insidious phrase, all the more because it's emotionally gratifying for some people.
@@MrTrainman96 History, as it happens, doesn't have a "right perspective", other than the objective reality of the facts involved. It is insidious, and potentially dangerous, to imply that history has only one correct interpretation.
Wow, definitely one of the best Ones so far. That man is a treasure, could listen to him talking for hours. Greetings form Germany 🇩🇪❤️🇺🇲 for my American Friends out there
i just started replaying rdr2 because rdr1 is actually coming out on PC soon! it’ll be interesting to see how different it feels to play them back to back
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for showing respect to both sides of history. In my opinion, perspective is knowledge, and hearing both sides of the story helps people better understand what truly transpired. I’m not here to throw shade at anyone, but to extend my appreciation for acknowledging both the good and bad aspects of history. Regardless of whether it’s seen as good or bad, it’s still history and deserves to be recognized. Thank you for bringing balance and perspective to the conversation.
I just remembered I have been to an Anne Oakley recreation exhibition when I was a kid in backwoods Kentucky. I loved it and its what got me into shooting so much. It's weird how some memories are forgotten until something comes up and reminds you.
First of all, what a cool guy. Second of all, I loooooove how he talked about native peoples when he answered the question about who was the most formidable. That is what it means to be a truly thoughtful historian. And the banjo!!!!!!!!!!!
Bit of clarification on the 10-gauge shotgun question. Today, when someone uses or refers to a 10ga, it's nearly always a magnum 10ga with a 3.5-inch chamber. That's really the only form of 10ga still in common use today due to it being a very big shell with a lot of room inside, which can be beneficial for some types of hunting such as waterfowling with steel shot (steel being much less dense than lead means the same weight of shot takes up significantly more space). Back in the wild west days, the 10ga was much more of a general-use gauge, and a lot of the 10ga shotgun shells that were used would be shorter, lower-power shells - not big magnums with a ton of shot inside. Also keep in mind that we're talking about black powder or maybe very early smokeless propellants back then. Modern propellants and other components like plastic wads made smaller shotgun gauges much more capable, which is why 12 & 20 gauge shotguns are the norm now, and you only see the big magnum 10ga get used when maximum power/payload is desired. A standard 10ga load - and even a lot of 8ga - back in the wild west would actually probably be fairly mild compared to what you can get out of a 12ga today.
Yes, all true. And let's also remember that stagecoach guards cut down the barrels of their shotguns, so that more propellant would be generate the necessary velocity of the shot load because so much of the powder would be left unburned. Shorter barrel = less velocity.
Yea, when shooting black powder speeds are almost always below 2000 ft/s, physically it's very hard to go faster than that, so weight of shot is more important compared to smokeless firearms. Same reason blackpowder rifles were in big bores like .45 or .577.
When he mentioned the drinks at Saloons and bars, I'm glad to see the Jerry Thomas guide, but moreover, the Golden Age of cocktails basically shared the same time period as the Wild/Old West. It was when the modern idea of the cocktail really was invented, and lasted until prohibition in the US, while in Europe many bars and lounges still existed but were extremely effected by the world wars. It's where the basics of mixology were really learned and when most classic cocktails either were invented or became staples.
@beenaplumber8379 Believe it or not, yes! The earliest known written example referring to a Tom Collins is 1882, so there's no garuntees if you find yourself wanting your Gin Lemonade in 1860, they would be absolutely able to whip you up an Old Fashioned or a Sour of many kinds.
@@tylerp.5004 Oh wow! I was just making a tongue-in-cheek comment. You know, it's such a trope in Westerns - a cowboy walks through those swinging saloon doors, orders whatever rot-gut they have, and takes it like a man. People have told me I like girl drinks when I order something like a Tom Collins, so I thought I was just being funny. Weird world!
When he was talking about dime novels making Jesse James a hero, all I could think about was the Brady Bunch episode where Bobby was idolizing Jesse James.
I always figured that episode was a direct response to the popularity of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Or more correctly, to the affable and clean portrayals by Redford and Newman.
I really appreciate his compassionate perspective towards native americans and the respect he gives to their plights and experiences with being colonized rather than feeding into the idea that they were just some ruthless savages. Wonderful historian and amazing video.
14:10 The 'Peacemaker' nickname appears to have been an invention of Benjamin Kitteridge, the largest distributor for Colt and Remington at various times. He or his associates coined many other slick marketing names for Colt products, such as the 'Lightning,' 'Thunderer,' and 'Omnipotent.'
My dad (rip) was OBSESSED with cowboys, the old west, etc. I was adopted, but my lil sis was supposed to be a boy with the name Jesse James. Since she popped out a girl it was changed to Jessica Jane. My lil bro got Wyatt Earp as a name. Obsessed doesn’t begin to describe his love of the Old American West.
He and his colleague are amazing I hope he will come back soon, I simply loved that episode. I appreciate how respectful he is when addressing some of the subjects.
No one takes history more seriously than Old West Historians. These guys go hard. Love it. My favorite to learn about was the Lincoln County War and Billy the Kid!
Great video..! As a brit who roadtripped. Would recommend the museum in Dodge.. The guy who ran the saloon realised the west would end soon (1870's) and started storing stuff for what was the Beeson museum ( later bought by the boot hill one).. So they have masses of random "normal" things ordinary people would use. (something like that , its a while since I went!)
You unlocked a memory! That song you sang I did with my choir kids when we did our annual Fall Festival, they would go around signing for people essentially "busking". Thank you for this!
What a great speaker! I grew up and live in Oklahoma so I'm pretty familiar with the culture but honestly I'm not normally a history fan. This guy though really kept me engaged! A really engaging, passionate speaker
@TherealDanielleNelson it's definitely interesting if you like western history. Its all run by volunteers so tip when you can. It's not that big (it's really just a few streets) but it can get crowded so parking can be a challenge. They put on free shows out in the street and have plenty of things to see.
Excellent presentation! I really liked the use of maps and props. As a Czech, though, I have a minor gripe - a good deal of those glass beads were Bohemian. 🙂 _Especially_ in the period of the height of the "Old West".
The concept of the cowboy has its origins in Spain. The Spanish term "vaquero," which means "cowherd," refers to individuals who managed cattle while mounted on horseback. This tradition was brought to the Americas by Spanish settlers and evolved into what we now recognize as the cowboy culture, especially in Mexico and The United States.
I'm a cattle rancher in Canada,but whenever I'm in Mexico and asked what I do by the locals,I always say I'm a Vaquero. So much of our modern cowboy culture came out of Mexico.
What really blew my mind recently was the food in the old west. Like he mentions, oysters were one of the biggest foods at the time, and it may come as no surprise that chinese food was also very common and affordable. Saloons very often had full buffets out, and champagne and oysters were one of the most classic things people would have in them! They definitely had plenty of whiskey and rotgut too, though.
Tech Support continues to be one of the most interesting web series around. This one was really good! Mark Lee Gardner is a treasure and I could watch him all day.
I feel like this video is more important than what the producers think. It transcends their normaized format and morphs into something new. It is more than just sensational. It is informative, entertaining, and most importantly, historic.
Buffalo Bill came to my town in the early 1900's in southern France "Sète" of all places ! My great great aunt saw his show as a little girl and remembered it fondly 😊 she passed at 104 years old
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One of the better historians WIRED has hosted. This man came prepared with props, and visual guides and was ready to answer the questions. Truly a model other historians should strive to replicate if hosted to answer questions to such a large audience.
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better.
I couldn't have said it better
@@stevenreedwebercooks eh. He was okay.
Agreed, excellent historian. I only have a couple items to add: Canvas pistol pockets were also installed due to gun heat. Standoffs in a duel can happen because reflex is often faster than intentional action.
I mean... he can summon a man with a fiddle at will.. of course he is a master of all that is.
I love how he has a violin player he can summon
If a banjo plays, we're required to show up 🫡
level 8 Bard perks
homie has a stand
@@VanceGardner613are you the violinist of the video? Or is it just a coincidence that your name is Vance and also play the violin
@@VanceGardner613 Y'ALL it's VANCE!
That bro Vance sliding into the frame is amazing.
now that's a true bro, ready to back up your banjo at any time
I like to think If you're good enough at the banjo some dude with a violin will just slide in whenever you pick it up
It's true🫡@@Robyamdam
I thought he was edited in at first
It was so smooth that I thought that he was edited in in post.
I absolutely LOVE how Mr. Gardner spoke about the Indigenous people!!! He made sure to point out they were not monsters but people protecting their loved ones. Amazing!!!!
Now when can we stop pretending that the settlers were monsters?
@@spyrofrost9158what a strange whataboutism. Settlers being monsters is certainly not the predominant cultural narrative.
@spyrofrost9158 we can not, because they were
@@spyrofrost9158Never.
@@spyrofrost9158 they were absolute monsters. Stop denying just because they were your people.
11:42 My great-great-grandfather was a black Buffalo soldier, 10th Calvary Regiment of the US Army. He was part of the rescue team to save lost soldiers during the Buffalo Soldier Tragedy of 1877.
Ok
@@sageisrageno, not Oklahoma, silly
Banjo intro goes hard
fr bro 🔥
what song is that i've heard it before
its like a stereotypical country type tune i swear i've heard it
Turkey in the jar
@@slothbro2740 Turkey in the Straw.
I love how he doesnt try and frame it as some beautiful perfect time. He even admits the Native Americans were fighting to protect their families. I trust this guy.
“Admits”? I’m pretty sure that’s the general impression most people have, and has been for many years now. In fact, I think if anything we tend to approach our historical view of the Natives with a bit too much generosity.
Still says Indians because being afraid of the term is stupid but doesn't pretend custard wasn't literally trying to perform an extermination. They were literally defending their families outside their homes. Many still use the term Indian and many organizations still bear that name. The only truly consistent preference is for someone to be referred to under the name of their tribe or nation
He even summarized Wild West in 13:25
There is no such thing as a "Native American" . Amerindians are a mixture of Ancient East Asian and Paleolithic Siberian people. You call them by their own tribe names, or simply Amerindians.
God forbid he calls them Native Americans though lmao
That is without a doubt the single most awesome intro on any Tech Support ever.
I’m obsessed with Wild West history. This was cool. Wish there was more . 🤞
What a simp
It's funny that it was called "wild west" yet it had stricter gun laws than present day America.
Absolutely! Gob smacked, I am and I'm not halfway through the vid!
and outro
For those wondering, he is playing "Turkey In The Straw" and the style of banjo he is playing is called "Clawhammer".
I find this helpful because once I was on the side of wondering the names of styles and songs.
Turkey in the straw in the beginning, and then Git along little doggies for the second, both beautiful old songs to use to represent the Wild West
9:14 When Sitting Bull saw Oakley perform, he was so impressed by her sharpshooting skills that he adopted her as his daughter, giving her the Lakota name "Watanya Cicilla" which means "Little Sure Shot."
As a European I'm always so amazed about how "recent" the wild west was. It just seems like a completely different era when comparing with cities like New-York during the same period or Europe. Its probably the effect of the non industrialisation I guess.
It amazes me that it was only like 30 years too. I get it confused with the American frontier
@@runitupteoteo5534Some Americans immigrated west even back in the late 1700’s, the typical legendary “old west” though takes place in a narrow period, much like the golden age of pirates.
@@runitupteoteo5534”Manifest density” wasn’t even in the lingo back then either. Funny how time flies.
It’s the same thing with the golden age of piracy in the Caribbean. Was only for like 70-80 years but captured our imaginations for eternity.
@@James44789 nah there were several golden ages for pirates. The longest being almost the entire 16th century in the mediterranean
There better be a second part Wired! This episode was fire
someone had to say it, and its so true. Parts 2 and 3!
More details about the REAL Tombstone! Doc Holiday probably saved a lot of lives ringing that dinner bell for the "dudes" with top hats, lol. "Please, rob me."
@@williamyoung9401 “I’m your Huckleberry”
We need him to host his own show, just telling wild west history.
yes!! seconded!
That was TOO SHORT! I could listen to Mr. Gardner all day. Not only is the stuff he talks about SO INTERESTING, but he has a way of narrating that's just so entertaining, it's like a superpower. I would add some kind of campfire, and dim the lights a bit, sit down comfy, and listen. I can't imagine all the awesome stories Mr. Gardner has in his head. And I LOVE THE BANJO/SINGING BITS. Please bring Mr. Gardner and his violin playing sidekick back. PLEASE! 🥰
PLEEEEEASE!
I came across this video randomly and it was SO engaging. I really like the way Mark Lee Gardner speaks and presents the stories and information. He really came prepared.
This was SUCH an amazing episode. He is a wonderful educator -- passionate and knowledgeable about his subject with the gift of entertaining and effective communication. As a teacher, it's so cool to watch amazing educators do their thing.
I love how much respect he gives to Native American peoples and their plight during this period, its very rare to see in any discussions around the Wild West, or colonial American history in general. Fantastic video!
Native American history is so incredible and important, there is so much information about the land we live on that they know, the way they used diffrent forms of substance farming and the cultivation of what Europeans saw as vast wastes is mind blowing. I’ve gotten to listen to a few really knowledgeable member of tribes in the pnw and it’s so cool
Yeah, now that most of them are dead, they can be "respected".
No the MOMENT the Wild West or cowboys are brought up, I IMMEDIATELY think of American colonization. We MUST bring it up, We are still here! We are still affected by these "Cowboy" V "Indian" tropes/fake narratives.
@@lilithFGCyup! Native American History is American History
does he though? he just called them "Indians"
Never heard of this man before, but the moment he pulled out the banjo I was a fan for life
You pull out the banjo and violin, you're never getting shot or would ever go hungry in the Old West, lol.
@@williamyoung9401it was a fiddle
@@CASH-THE-NERD Former violinist here: A fiddle and violin is the dame thing.
I was very pleased at how respectful he was toward the Native American Peoples when he talked about them. He obviously holds a lot of reverence for them.
Do you think that's rare, particularly among educated people?
@@beenaplumber8379 Other way around, the uneducated are more likely to discount Native Americans. Anyone educated in history knows to respect these people and what they were able to accomplish. Most of their history has been intentionally destroyed or altered.
@@beenaplumber8379I think so. I feel like many of us grew up with either an overt “the Indians were savages and we conquered them and fulfilled our destiny” or “we modernized the land as we expanded west” as if they were unintelligent, uncivilized people.
Racism isn’t always in your face, calling people slurs- a lot of times it’s the way we speak about people, even in a “nice” or “academic” way like I was taught growing up.
@@iamlegend1201 I don't think anyone old enough to use the internet grew up thinking natives were savages.
@@floydnimrod1826 Sounds like you weren't around in the 90s. That kind of stuff was still very rampant.
the way Vance slides was a vibe i am digging
Possibly my favorite episode of tech support i’ve ever watched. this period of history is absolutely fascinating to me, and to have such an awesome host to present it was icing on the cake. please make another episode!
I love how earnest and open this man is. "Not what went wrong for Custer, but what went right for the Lakota"
What a great video!
The best! This guy is a treasure
Outnumbering them 200-1 helps
About the Navajo: "They learned to live off the land with what nature provided them, they made very good use of, and at the same time made it very beautiful"
@@themr_wilson their Hispanic slaves might disagree
@@AFS-ht7bg if he hadn't been fool enough to divide his forces into 3 groups there would not have been nearly the inequality of forces. It's called poor generalship and is studied in military colleges worldwide to this day.
Nothing hits harder than someone very knowledgeable talking about their passion and expertise🦧 like yes mama share with meeeee
The correction to 'what went right for the Lakota' is baller.
as he proceeds to call them "indians".
give me a break.
@@mybrainmeltedmany ndns indeed refer to ourselves as such. Especially when talking about more than one tribe!
@@mybrainmelted Afaik "Native Americans" is actually less respectful just because the tribes never called themselves Americans, only some tribes prefer that. Most prefer "Indians" or being referred to by tribe name specifically (best practice), but when referring to multiple tribes Indians makes sense. It's just weird because it's based on a mistake of identifying the continent as India, but it stuck.
There’s actually an interesting video by CGP Grey covering this exact topic on what terminology is used and preferred based on geography and ethnicity.
This is how I knew he was a real one!!! I came into this video like ohhhh boyyyyy...🤨
As a Salish-Kootenai native, I appreciate how you rephrased the question about Custer's battles. I am very glad to see that you recognize what the indigenous people of our country had to face. Reminding viewers that they were only protecting themselves and their families really gets to the core of things. Our country was founded on the blood of indigenous lives cut short by colonizers and greed. Thank you for this.
I live near Tombstone and I go down there any time I can. The town is so kind and fun, and they do recreations of the OK Corral shootout throughout the day. The Birdhouse Theatre is also super fun, there I learned that Frank Sinatra sang in it while it was abandoned because it was "a dream of his".
My god this man is a hoot and a holler. What an awesome communicator. I’ve never had too much interest in the wild west, but this video has definitely sparked my curiosity. Thank you Mr. Gardner!!
Between watching back to the Future part 3 and playing Red Dead Redemption 2, I have vast knowledge of the wild West.
Just need to add Million Ways to Die in the West to that repertoire.
Funny how this guy didn't mention that with enough tonics and cigarettes, any cowboy could take on entire gangs all by himself.
I have Unforgiven on Blu-Ray, which I have memorized. And I didn't see you, in the Blue Bottle Saloon the day Corky Corkrin was killed.
You can watch westworld lol
I wouldn't say that
btw theres a youtuber "Real Pixels" who goes through every chapter of Red Dead 2 and breaks down its accuracy and references in EXTREME detail for those interested
Oh hey bear. Been watching your foxhole vids for 2 years now.
Likewise cole XD Love your vids Bear
Oh snap this sounds awesome. 👏 Thanks
Hmmm
His videos are alright, but he's nothing compared to this legend!
I’m norm and raised in Texas, as well as my family all own land. My family has a long line of vaqueros, in Mexico and now in Texas. The old west fascinates me
Same here, it kinda makes me sad I’ll never get to actually see it
14:34 for Red Dead Redemption fans. You're welcome.
Thank you 😊
You’re a god among men… props to you
You're a good man Noobicorn Gamer
I hope black lung spares you
Thank you, i wish your phone charger always works and your pillow Is forever the perfect temperature
Seriously, this content brightened my mood!
Hit it Vance! This is by miles the best episode of this series.
He absolutely nailed this! So thurough and respectful. It felt so compassionate and well done
Well, I'll be ! Just happened to hit on this website to see my dear friend Mark and his son. I watched the whole thing and learned a thing or two. Great episode Mark ! Good seeing ya !
He was probably the best expert that ever came to WIRED Tech Support, such an entertaining video and he has a very good way of explaining things. Part 2 with him please!
23:20 Seeing how Charlie Siringos hands move while playing that piano makes me understand why they made characters play like that in old cartoons
I believe that's something to do with the film back then. I believe it was common due to playback speed or something
He’s so solid for reframing the Wild West to the Native American’s perspective of literally defending their culture. True allyship of telling history correctly with the right perspective.
"...telling history correctly with the right perspective" is a pretty insidious phrase, all the more because it's emotionally gratifying for some people.
@@frowned6539 It's insidious to tell history how it actually happened?
Indians hunted the buffaloes down before the whites.
Yea the way they phrased that is all wrong, recounting history as best we know is all we can do. No matter our personal feelings on the matter
@@MrTrainman96 History, as it happens, doesn't have a "right perspective", other than the objective reality of the facts involved. It is insidious, and potentially dangerous, to imply that history has only one correct interpretation.
Dude I could watch a whole series of this guy explaining the Wild West.
In-Range TV has a lot of videos on history.
Wow, definitely one of the best Ones so far.
That man is a treasure, could listen to him talking for hours.
Greetings form Germany 🇩🇪❤️🇺🇲 for my American Friends out there
I’m suddenly in the mood for KFC
Meh, looks more like a chicken fried steak kinda guy.
Popeyes better
haha me too 😂
I was saying the same thing But Mr Mark is no Colonel Sanders by a long shot he is a ACE HISTORIAN of the Old West
Weird. I got a hankering for diabetus supplies
bro was shredding that banjo. as he should
This was awesome! We need a second part! This fine gentleman is making me wanna replay Red Dead Redemption 2 even more!
i just started replaying rdr2 because rdr1 is actually coming out on PC soon! it’ll be interesting to see how different it feels to play them back to back
@@cinnarapmonrdr and rdr2 are so different in many ways. Just don't give up on rdr because it isn’t like rdr2
Best 30 minutes I've spent _by random chance_ on RUclips in a LONG TIME!!
I hope they do a part 2, this was a rly good episode
"Thank you Vance." * Vance rolls out of the scene * Cinema.
Bravo Bince
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for showing respect to both sides of history. In my opinion, perspective is knowledge, and hearing both sides of the story helps people better understand what truly transpired. I’m not here to throw shade at anyone, but to extend my appreciation for acknowledging both the good and bad aspects of history. Regardless of whether it’s seen as good or bad, it’s still history and deserves to be recognized. Thank you for bringing balance and perspective to the conversation.
I wanted to write the same myself, totally agree! He seems very human, he tells the stories in a way that everyone can understand and relate.
I don't know how and where you find all these cool people, but keep it going! Badass, educational episode.
You can really see the guy enjoys the interview! He gets more and more energized through every question
I just remembered I have been to an Anne Oakley recreation exhibition when I was a kid in backwoods Kentucky. I loved it and its what got me into shooting so much. It's weird how some memories are forgotten until something comes up and reminds you.
Props to the editor for the banjo music perfectly fading into the intro stinger drums.
Met this guy in Valentine
Buddy used to custom combine out there! 🤠
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I had to go through 3 unskippable double ad breaks to finish this video. WORTH IT!
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First of all, what a cool guy. Second of all, I loooooove how he talked about native peoples when he answered the question about who was the most formidable. That is what it means to be a truly thoughtful historian. And the banjo!!!!!!!!!!!
Actual cowboy music has a strong irish folk sound... . I never noticed that
Yes, much of America’s traditional music was brought here by Scots and Irish emigrants. Appalachia had a great history of such music.
@katiegardner7890 you know a crazier thing..... a lot Scots and celts were crossbred with eastern Europeans..."asians"
Scythians were the bridge for that
A lot of Irish became cowboys! All of American history has older influence, it becomes a crazy rabbit hole when you decide to look into it
Bit of clarification on the 10-gauge shotgun question. Today, when someone uses or refers to a 10ga, it's nearly always a magnum 10ga with a 3.5-inch chamber. That's really the only form of 10ga still in common use today due to it being a very big shell with a lot of room inside, which can be beneficial for some types of hunting such as waterfowling with steel shot (steel being much less dense than lead means the same weight of shot takes up significantly more space).
Back in the wild west days, the 10ga was much more of a general-use gauge, and a lot of the 10ga shotgun shells that were used would be shorter, lower-power shells - not big magnums with a ton of shot inside. Also keep in mind that we're talking about black powder or maybe very early smokeless propellants back then. Modern propellants and other components like plastic wads made smaller shotgun gauges much more capable, which is why 12 & 20 gauge shotguns are the norm now, and you only see the big magnum 10ga get used when maximum power/payload is desired. A standard 10ga load - and even a lot of 8ga - back in the wild west would actually probably be fairly mild compared to what you can get out of a 12ga today.
Yes, all true. And let's also remember that stagecoach guards cut down the barrels of their shotguns, so that more propellant would be generate the necessary velocity of the shot load because so much of the powder would be left unburned. Shorter barrel = less velocity.
Yea, when shooting black powder speeds are almost always below 2000 ft/s, physically it's very hard to go faster than that, so weight of shot is more important compared to smokeless firearms. Same reason blackpowder rifles were in big bores like .45 or .577.
When he mentioned the drinks at Saloons and bars, I'm glad to see the Jerry Thomas guide, but moreover, the Golden Age of cocktails basically shared the same time period as the Wild/Old West. It was when the modern idea of the cocktail really was invented, and lasted until prohibition in the US, while in Europe many bars and lounges still existed but were extremely effected by the world wars. It's where the basics of mixology were really learned and when most classic cocktails either were invented or became staples.
So if you ordered a Tom Collins instead of three fingers of red-eye, the rest of the saloon patrons wouldn't look at you funny or try to kill you?
@beenaplumber8379 Believe it or not, yes! The earliest known written example referring to a Tom Collins is 1882, so there's no garuntees if you find yourself wanting your Gin Lemonade in 1860, they would be absolutely able to whip you up an Old Fashioned or a Sour of many kinds.
@@tylerp.5004 Oh wow! I was just making a tongue-in-cheek comment. You know, it's such a trope in Westerns - a cowboy walks through those swinging saloon doors, orders whatever rot-gut they have, and takes it like a man. People have told me I like girl drinks when I order something like a Tom Collins, so I thought I was just being funny. Weird world!
When he was talking about dime novels making Jesse James a hero, all I could think about was the Brady Bunch episode where Bobby was idolizing Jesse James.
I always figured that episode was a direct response to the popularity of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Or more correctly, to the affable and clean portrayals by Redford and Newman.
I literally paused the video to go watch that scene on the train 😆 Poor Bobby; the truth hurts 💀
2:52 "Hit it Vince" 😂 Vince slide out with the instrument so fast...🫡💯
This has been one of the better episodes in quite a bit. I could listen to this man talk about the wild west for hours.
I really appreciate his compassionate perspective towards native americans and the respect he gives to their plights and experiences with being colonized rather than feeding into the idea that they were just some ruthless savages. Wonderful historian and amazing video.
@3:18 so which came first? The talent for singing or the passion for the Wild Wild West?
Missed opportunity to call it WIRED West Support!
😂😂😂 Good one!
14:10 The 'Peacemaker' nickname appears to have been an invention of Benjamin Kitteridge, the largest distributor for Colt and Remington at various times. He or his associates coined many other slick marketing names for Colt products, such as the 'Lightning,' 'Thunderer,' and 'Omnipotent.'
This was the best that I’ve seen on this Tech Support series, and there are some really good ones.
I could listen to him all day! Amazing speaker
I love this so much, especially the "what went right for the Lakota"!
As others have mentioned, the amount of passion and care Mr. Gardner brought to the vid was great. Definitely one of the best guests they brought on.
My dad (rip) was OBSESSED with cowboys, the old west, etc. I was adopted, but my lil sis was supposed to be a boy with the name Jesse James. Since she popped out a girl it was changed to Jessica Jane. My lil bro got Wyatt Earp as a name. Obsessed doesn’t begin to describe his love of the Old American West.
I could watch this guy teach all day. I love the history of the west and the fair explanation with all the people of the time.
One of the best episodes I've seen. Please bring Mr. Gardner back if possible
Such eloquent and well spoken information regarding the events between the natives and colonizing Americans.
I learned so much!
That was tight. Can we have more of this fine gentleman please? He's so fluent in his area of study.
He and his colleague are amazing I hope he will come back soon, I simply loved that episode. I appreciate how respectful he is when addressing some of the subjects.
No one takes history more seriously than Old West Historians. These guys go hard. Love it. My favorite to learn about was the Lincoln County War and Billy the Kid!
0:32 that's freakin Rainbolt
Holy crap
Lmao 🤣
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Great video..!
As a brit who roadtripped. Would recommend the museum in Dodge.. The guy who ran the saloon realised the west would end soon (1870's) and started storing stuff for what was the Beeson museum ( later bought by the boot hill one).. So they have masses of random "normal" things ordinary people would use.
(something like that , its a while since I went!)
Modern day you can buy a goodwill, wait about 80 years, then open a museum.
I now have another stop to go to! That sounds so cool.
My dad's mamgu (my great-grandmother) in South Wales saw Sitting Bull in the Buffalo Bill Wild West show in Swansea.
You unlocked a memory! That song you sang I did with my choir kids when we did our annual Fall Festival, they would go around signing for people essentially "busking". Thank you for this!
What a great speaker! I grew up and live in Oklahoma so I'm pretty familiar with the culture but honestly I'm not normally a history fan. This guy though really kept me engaged! A really engaging, passionate speaker
0:29: Yeah, my grandpa tried to do that, too. Not with a gun, he just kept turning his roommate in the old folks home's oxygen off.
Can we see more of this, please? What a marvellous story teller!
What great timing. I just visited Tombstone this weekend. Excellent information, thank you!
How was it? Tombstone is on my bucket list of places to see.
@TherealDanielleNelson it's definitely interesting if you like western history. Its all run by volunteers so tip when you can. It's not that big (it's really just a few streets) but it can get crowded so parking can be a challenge. They put on free shows out in the street and have plenty of things to see.
@@QueenCole89 Nice! I'll remember that when/if I go there.
I could have watched that all day. Questions I never knew I needed to know and answers beyond my expectations. Please do this again soon!
We need Wild West support part 2. Bring this man back!
You can tell how much he respects the Native American populations he speaks about. I would love a Part 2 of this one!!!
My favourite support videos are with historians. They just open up your mind soooo much ❤
Listening to this man play the banjo while taking online training? Highly recommended.
I was a little disappointed when he said ”cowboys loved all types of music” and did not follow up with a Pantera cover 😢
I LOVE this guy. He is so knowledgable. Please can we see more of him?
Excellent presentation! I really liked the use of maps and props.
As a Czech, though, I have a minor gripe - a good deal of those glass beads were Bohemian. 🙂 _Especially_ in the period of the height of the "Old West".
Butter my butt and call me a biscuit, that intro was fire!
I was just thinking about biscuits and gravy then saw this comment lmao
The concept of the cowboy has its origins in Spain. The Spanish term "vaquero," which means "cowherd," refers to individuals who managed cattle while mounted on horseback. This tradition was brought to the Americas by Spanish settlers and evolved into what we now recognize as the cowboy culture, especially in Mexico and The United States.
I'm a cattle rancher in Canada,but whenever I'm in Mexico and asked what I do by the locals,I always say I'm a Vaquero. So much of our modern cowboy culture came out of Mexico.
Argentina, Uruguay and South of Brazil has their own version of it, brought by spanish settlers too, the Gaucho.
@@synthrunner4244 in South of Brazil, it became a bit influenced by the Germans that moved there, if I am not wrong.
@@Ziqver Yes there is a lot of german descendants and german culture, but the gaucho tradition is more related to the spanish influence, the music etc
The term “buckeroo” is an anglicization of “vaquero”
I'm not that interested in the Old West, but I found this guy to be fascinating.
I respect every historian who actually incorporate elements of the historic period they're experts off in their personal lifestyle.
What really blew my mind recently was the food in the old west.
Like he mentions, oysters were one of the biggest foods at the time, and it may come as no surprise that chinese food was also very common and affordable.
Saloons very often had full buffets out, and champagne and oysters were one of the most classic things people would have in them! They definitely had plenty of whiskey and rotgut too, though.
Please a part 2, just started a replay of RDR2 and a rewatch of Lonesome Dove, this hit just in time.
I just restarted my replay of RDR2 as well! Lots of mods this go around.
I have little interest in this subject but I really like this mans passion, he did a really good job.
This guy looks exactly like someone who would study the Wild West
Tech Support continues to be one of the most interesting web series around. This one was really good! Mark Lee Gardner is a treasure and I could watch him all day.
I feel like this video is more important than what the producers think. It transcends their normaized format and morphs into something new. It is more than just sensational. It is informative, entertaining, and most importantly, historic.
Buffalo Bill came to my town in the early 1900's in southern France "Sète" of all places ! My great great aunt saw his show as a little girl and remembered it fondly 😊 she passed at 104 years old