Wow...I just celebrated 14 years of sobriety on 25Dec. My life before becoming sober, for good, was very much like Dick Fellow's "Dr. Jeckel Mr. Hyde" life. Had I not found Alcoholic Anonymous I would have went the way he did too. So sad that, even after AA has been around, there are still those out there that cannot or will not stay sober. I feel blessed I did. Thank you for this story, as a native Californian (and recovered Alcoholic) I had never heard this man's story.
The AA model doesn’t work for everyone. I personally don’t believe in any type of higher power besides nature. I also find it to be almost a personal shame fest. I gain no power or healing from starting every sentence by calling myself an alcoholic. It’s demeaning to me honestly.
@@bushhippie7372 I do hope you find your path. In the 1880's there was no answer for alcoholism. The first story here demonstrats to me, a story of untreated alcoholism Who knows though, maybe he could have gotten sober in AA, and still have been a sober stage coach robber?
Good for you ma’am. All the best to you. Edited and thank you for your service as well. I admire those with such discipline and determination in face of great challenges and adversity.
Having grown up in the old Cowtown of Lemmon SD, I have a soft spot in my heart for the old badmen of the early days. Dad was born in 1910 and was familiar with some of the criminals who terrorized the Midwest in the 30's in fact he knew some of them on a first name basis having met the through the bootleggers of that time and used to regal me with tales of shared adventures. History has always been a favorite topic of mine and I do have a quite a collection of old books on the subject that I have worn thin by reading and re-reading. Dad was the same, but he loved to old magazines and always had several on is end table, many from the Old West, and more modern detective magazines that were popular before television glommed onto our brains and destroyed the desire to learn from the written word. Thank you so much for this series, I keeps me searching for even more history that is worth remembering.
You are the best historical story teller I've ever come across sir, it's a joy and pleasure to listen to you bring forgotten history back to life. Well done sir, cheers.
@@christineparis5607 a big part of “Tombstone” was Mrs. Earp’s Lodnum addiction (sp?) alcohol and opium. Not sure about the historic accuracy… also plays a part in one of my personal favs “Deadwood.”
I've lived in a town where the kids gathered "at the four-way" on Saturday night, and towns where the kids turned out headlights when they drove to a barn somewhere so the Sheriff wouldn't hassle them. They say the only thing to do in such places late-night on Saturdays was to drink and die.
One of my favorite quotes... "You're never truly done for as long as you have a good story, and someone to tell it to." -the legend of 1900 What a stack of stories you have sir. You're welcome at our campfire any day. Really enjoy your videos!
My mother’s family weee from Buffalo Gap, and her sister wrote a book about our family history and the local community, wherein she mentions Lame Johnny creek and the tree he was hanged on. its so cool actually hearing about this guy and his story, knowing of its connection to my family’s hometown. thanks.
It's sooo refreshing to see an unbiased history of these people. I've seen others but they all seem to have an axe to grind and a position to defend. In reality I'm afraid, as in so much history, we may never know exactly the truth of the matter.
yes indeed! revisionist 'history" and the peddlers of that tripe seriously rankle myself and the whole of our group, the American Mountain Men. cheers joel~
Fellows issues with addiction are prescient to many people's struggles in the modern day. Being 5 years sober and still watching old friends struggle, fail, and die makes his story so very personal.
Many never escape, I am happy to hear that you have done so , and retained empathy, and regard for others, a resounding confirmation of your True Self,, you Sir are INTACT,,
Iv been clean for 23 years just remember take it a day at a time lose all your old using friends go to meetings have a sponsor now you won't need it forever I haven't done it in 10 years now ⁶ but i did it for 15 years or so becouse you need that at first but I still belive in my higher power Jesus Christ threw him all thinks are possible what do you have to lose by trying nothing but you stand to gain a eternal life
This has been my favorite episode so far! Thank You! I lived in Telluride for years, love the history of the region. The bank the Butch & Sundance robbed is still there, it's just retail space now. And there is a condo complex named for Ethel Called 'Etta Place' of course
Butch Cassidy robbed a bank in a little town of Montpelier, Idaho. He did it to hire a lawyer for his friend Sundance which was in jail in Utah. The building the housed the bank still stands to this day, and it's owned by.......a bank.
New subscriber. I love History more than any other subject, especially 19th century American History and Wild West outlaws and gunfighters. I am fascinated by the parallels between the gunfighters of the wild west and the outlaws of the 1930's.
Regarding Dick Fellows, there is actually newspaper articles describing how the bandit cleaned up his act and did move to Kentucky. Eventually he died there in 1933 (also more evidence, a headstone purchase order). Hope Thompson wrote an article about it on unmasked history.
I always enjoy your presentation. Great info.,well presented.since I retired from nursing my studies take up much of my time: Civil War, U.S. prez., Wild West and great ships like Titanic and Sultana. As I have taught nursing, I hope to teach some history. There are so many interesting things to study. I would like to share this knowledge with others
The book and film of the story of Jeremiah Johnson has always given me the best vision of what living and surviving out west must of been like. It’s a wonderful story and Redford played the role perfectly.
My dad dated a lady who told a tale of growing up in her ancestral Missouri village. As a girl, she reported, there was an old man everyone called "Uncle Jesse." On his deathbed Uncle Jesse told a man to go to a certain cave for a "big surprise" and look for a small cairn formation of stacked rocks. The search party found a box of debtor's notes from an old bank, gun belts and jackets. It's speculated the belts and box were discarded by the bandits who had to leave the bulky items behind in order to maneuver the snaking path to the back door of the cave network, as the entrance had a posse and Sheriff pointing guns therein. So begins the "Tale of Uncle Jesse"... A true story, actually!
I absolutely love your channel and videos! I live here in Ouray, CO and Butch Cassidy and Sundance and mentioned often here. Supposedly I live in the part of town that they would stay overnight in, when they would travel from Telluride to Lake City. I have been a long-time fan of your channel and I look forward to seeing more in the future. Please keep doing what you are doing and don't let any networks get their manipulative hands into your amazing research and videos :)
As a young boy, I was introduced to Lula Parker Betenson, the youngest sister of Robert Leroy Parker (Butch), by my father. He grew up in Circle valley, Utah, and knew the family. My great grandfather knew Robert and had a few stories about him. There are many credible sightings and encounters of "Butch", after he was supposedly killed in South America. I have talked with a few of the people, and they all said Robert was just happy that there was so much confusion about him. In the last few years, some of the remaining family descendants have opened up a bit about some of the previously hushed stories concerning his final resting place. I personally think Ol' Butch is rather tickled that we're still talking about him 100 years later.🙂
Well if you own a Famous Private Agency & got 3 people you can't catch. Getting embarrassed. Business sense tell you if you get a easy out. Take it. It's like today sometimes it hard to tell who the good guy are from the bad guy. Something's I guess do never change. My family had problems with Pinkerton Detective Agency themselves long time ago really just paid thugs & outlaws all they was I personally feel. How Pinkerton got his famous name now even getting in huge question if it was a set-up he involved in.
My father as a boy knew the Sundance Kid. He and Butch returned from South America. The deputy sheriff was Matt Warner my father's uncle, an ex member of the Wild Bunch. Butch is said to have been around and left for California or Montana, but we never heard from him again. Sundance lived to old age and didn't make anymore trouble. He was buried in the Price City Cemetery in an unmarked grave, or so I have been told. BTW Deputy Matt knew Sundance, they lived in the same small mining town. Deputy Matt looked the other way as he also did to the many brothels in town.
I think it was Lula I saw in a documentary many years ago.She said Butch had definitely come home after the Bolivia visit.Forget what she said about Etta & Sundance though.
I promise you he doesn't care if he didn't know the Lord Jesus Christ which most don't he's an eternal torment, make sure you know the Lord Jesus Christ and are born again before you take your last breath.
While in Winnemucca NV during the summer of 1976, I noticed a small sign in the 1st National Bank of Nevada's window claiming this branch was robbed by Butch Cassidy and his gang in 1900.
Thanks for putting your videos together in one long piece I downloaded it and watched it while the electricity was out something awesome to watch thank you. Your coverage of history is great
I came to love many of Louis L’Amour’s stories for painting a rugged and yet somehow magical frontier in which life was hard yet it brought a sense of freedom hard to find nowadays
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. It’s a change of of pace learning about un known or lesser known outlaws. My question is. What ever became of the mystery women of the Wild West. Edda Place after leaving Bolivia???
Speculation about what happened to Etta Place is included in the last video in the compilation. Like Butch and Sundance, she may have been killed in Bolivia participating in a Bank Robbery, or she might have returned to the United States.
Excellent. Most important you are not annoying and ez to listen to. Beside the fact highly intelligent, very informed and researched. I enjoyed this. Thank you.
Will you please do an episode on Sidney NE? So much history that deserves to be remembered there. From Ft Sidney, the Sioux Ordinance Depot (also known as Sioux Army Depot), the Fascination car produced by the Highway Aircraft Corporation, & Cabela’s.
THG has 1.08M Subs! This so pleases me, for he deserves all the benefits that accompany this evolving Success. (His narratives remind me of an earlier era when Journalists were Anchors, Owners made an effort to respect the Public, Polite was reflected in the greater number of interactions, and Presidents and Parents behaved like Mature Minded Adults.)
I grew up in Utah and one of my favorite places is Southern Utah. One of the places they say The Wild Bunch laid low is known as The Robbers Roost. Near Toquerville, UT.
A little Western Jewelry trivia: the Bolo tie was created by a Navajo in the 1890’s. Until the 1920’s it was not that common, more used by the Navajo than any other group.
Every time I hear about Butch Cassidy it reminds me of a sign I saw enroute to Bryce Canyon. The sign said “Butch Cassidy Draw.” This was many years before Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was made. I asked who Butch Cassidy was. My mother told me he was a local outlaw that would never receive the notoriety that others like Billy the Kid received. How little did she know.
I'm imagining a well written script of the true life story of Dick Fellows directed by a top flight director, with dream team cast and crew that lures Daniel Day-Lewis out of retirement. Potential for a great film. How has a historically accurate film of this guy not been made? Practically writes itself. When done well, Westerns will always have an audience.
I don't know about getting set on casting a specific actor, even as great of a method actor as him, but I have definitely thought about how interesting a film about Dick Fellows could be. Definitely has appeal as a character piece as much as a western.
The story Dick Fellows the bad guy reminds me of a part of the song(?) that was sung(??) on HEE HAW: IF IT WEREN'T FOR BAD LUCK, I'D HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL... I'm not trivializing the man's addiction. He was an unlucky bad man(???).🌞🌞🌞✌✌✌✌
The Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid movie from 1969 with Robert Redford & Paul Newman as an Oscar winner 🏆 is no surprise too me; I always thought it to be a highly underated Western & one of the best in it's era! I have a great outlaws favorite western movie top 10 .........🙃👇 Down below here 🐴🤠🔫🎭⤵️ 10.) The Maginificent 7 remake "Denzel Washington" 9.) Rooster Cogburn "John Wayne" 8.) The Outlaw Josey Wales "Clint Eastwood" 7.) The Quick & The Dead "Russel Crowe Sharon Stone, Gene Hackman, & Leonardo DiCaprio" 6.) 310 to Yuma remake " Russel Crowe & Patrick Bateman" 5.) Tombstone "Kurt Russel, Val Kilmore, Michael Biehn" 4.) The original Magnificent 7 "Yul Brynner & James Coburn" 3.) Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid " Robert Redford & Paul Newman" 2.) Young Guns " Emilio Estevez, Kieffer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Jack Palance, & Charlie Sheen 1.) The Good, The Bad, & The ugly " Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, & Eli Wallach"
This is a good list. Personally I am surprised you left off Unforgiven, as well as classics like Big Jake or the Man Who Shot Liberty Valence or three Godfathers or Stagecoach or the Shootist. (I grew up on John Wayne.) Rooster Cogburn isn't really an outlaw movie, right? I'd also at least give The Long Riders and Silverado honorable mentions. I'd personally leave off The Quick and the Dead, which I found cheesy.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Thank you I do like some of your list it's a good list too! I do really like Silverado it was very good it would be my #11 if I had a top 20 lol but yeah I have many favorites especially John Wayne but I really like it prefer Clint Eastwood, Yul Bryner, Emilio Estevez Kerry Russel & Russel Crowe because they were in my favorites! Emilio Estevez was in another Western & he was in another one called Dollars for the Dead but it was a low budget & they didn't make many VHS copies & it's a rare gem 💎 but I actually loved it too pieces but it's cheesy but I still enjoy the action & Emilio was really good in it & that would be my #12 lol but yeah I like Big Jake & The Sons of Katie Elder as well
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel yea...guess I was thinking westerns.......ever check out the Waterloo Wonders from 1930s rural Ohio?.....better than Hoosiers.....also upon mentioning the alcohol problems.....how about the Mayflower Pilgrims and others of the time arriving in New world addicted to booze and so used to water being polluted in Europe the didn't dare drink 5he clean waters here and kept returning and or begging booze shipments.....all good stuff.....enjoy your content
If I could tell my story with all the opportunities and failures, the addiction to drugs (meth for me,) and brief periods of sobriety, the time incarcerated where I was a model prisoner (including being a trustee in the local jail plus while in prison being awarded a 60 day time cut on a 21 month commitment (I was sentenced to twenty years!)) The pain of failing so spectacularly that all I could do was leave in sorrow. I have often said of myself that "I kept everything I should've left behind and threw away everything I should've kept." I AM NOT PROUD OF WHERE I FIND MYSELF TODAY. THIS STORY IS TRUE AND IN THIS COMMENT I HAVEN'T EVEN SCRATCHED THE SURFACE!! Have a good everyone. Always, Andy
🎶 she tied me up with some rope and a lasso, wicked felina was actually Filipe when he dropped his drawers my tequila did hurl. 🎶. Gasping and gagging while crawling and begging please Mr Filipe just let me alone,. Laughing and grinning he started sinning ole wicked felina just gave me the bone. 🎶
When he said "But that's another story". I was caught out then in the next featured story it was a continuation of the last story. Well played History Guy, Well played indeed.🤔 Now we need a whole new feature of Pirates. From Asia. Maybe the original pirates... The Sea People! Plus anything else someone could add to? Maybe? Just asking for a friend 🤭
Regarding Harry Logan aka Kid Curry, 30 some years ago the museum at Malta, Montana told me that it was Kid Curry who had robbed that train outside their town. And that Curry so intimidated the engineer, that he backed east all the way to Glasgow to report the robbery. It was also said at the museum that Kid Curry was thought to be the best and fastest gunfighter of the Wild Bunch.
This sounds mostly good to me. One missed detail, though. A team from the TV show NOVA exhumed the grave purported to be that of the "desconocidos" payroll robbers. They found only one skeleton, but it was determined to be that of a 5'11" caucasian - there weren't many such in San Vicente at the turn of the century. The skull had a definite bullet wound in the forehead. Finally, they were able to retrieve a DNA sample from a tooth. A mitochondrial DNA test was done and compared with mDNA from descendants of both the Parker and Longabaugh families on the female line (which transmits mDNA). The dead man was not related to either family.
Some sources refer to Butch Cassidy as George Leroy Parker instead of Robert Leroy Parker. You explained in so many words why this mistake is sometimes made.
End of the trail searches don't necessarily mean that the person's trail actually ended, but it is pretty likely. Consider the possibility that it was Harry Logan (Kid Curry)and Harry Longabaugh (Sundance Kid) that robbed the mine payroll and got killed. You mentioned that someone had identified Logan down there at the time. And perhaps Butch had left South America when they fled Argentina. Ethyl (Etta) survived the wounds from the earlier robbery and tried to establish Longabaugh's death. Perhaps she remarried. Perhaps she went to San Francisco. Perhaps died there or in route. Her trail runs cold. Butch could have returned and exploited the belief of his demise by reinventing himself. Both his and Longabaugh's correspondence stopped, but Butch would have changed names. Good episodes all together. Thanks.
My father grew up in Nevada. He said their neighbor was an old rancher who claimed. As a boy Butch and Sundance swapped for fresh horses at their ranch once. Giving him their tired horses.
I think by the time film came along the mold had already been set. Even more so than the films I enjoy the programs on Sirius XM satellite radio's radio classics. Gunsmoke with William Conrad as Marshall Matt Dylan, John Dehner as the frontier gentleman, Jimmy Stewart in Six Shooter... The myth of the West began in the penny dreadfuls penny dreadfuls and was refined on radio.
Okay "History Guy" you are like the History teacher that I never had waaaay back in grammar school eh? ... But what's really awesome about you sir is this; You love what you do as an historian and a fine educator! All levels of ages young and old without or without a PHD degree love you Sir! 👍👍👌 💪✌️🙏❤️🩹🇺🇸
I grew up with westerns of the 60's and onward but being a history buff I spent time learning about the old west (I live in Kansas so much of it was a part of my state's history). I think I should have stayed ignorant because it wasn't like tv shows and movies, for the most part, which can make watching those same shows now a bit annoying. ie Matt Dillon walking around with his hand ready to draw when confronting trouble makers early on in Gunsmoke's early days. There were no fast-draw confrontations (that we know of) because people when fearful tended to have their gun already out and the basic truth was that even with a gun out most people aren't killers. Those kinds of people don't give you a chance and were just as likely to shoot you down whether you were looking or not. ie "Unforgiven". Nothing has really changed in that regard in today's world.
I remember an episode where Matt Dillon was shot in the head (seventh time?) & a woman found him & put that 6' 7" 240 lbs. man on a horse, by herself, took him back to her house, & put a wet rag on his forehead. In 3 days he was chopping firewood & fixing the roof.
About five years ago you talked about Dick Fellows and Soapy Smith. I also thought there was a movie that showed Dick Fellows in a scene of two, meeting some other character briefly but I searched for that movie and failed.
No, San Quentin is not on an island, you're thinking of Alcatraz, which was not in existence then. San Quentin is located north of San Francisco, on the shore of the Bay, in Marin County. Drove past it for years.
Where you sleep out every night And the only law is right...Whoopi-ty-aye-yay... I'm a cowboy who never saw a cow Never roped a steer 'cause I don't know how And I sure ain't fixin' to start in now Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay, Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay....Yippee Ki-Yay ah
Wow...I just celebrated 14 years of sobriety on 25Dec. My life before becoming sober, for good, was very much like Dick Fellow's "Dr. Jeckel Mr. Hyde" life. Had I not found Alcoholic Anonymous I would have went the way he did too. So sad that, even after AA has been around, there are still those out there that cannot or will not stay sober. I feel blessed I did. Thank you for this story, as a native Californian (and recovered Alcoholic) I had never heard this man's story.
No AA then, we are so fortunate!
The AA model doesn’t work for everyone. I personally don’t believe in any type of higher power besides nature. I also find it to be almost a personal shame fest. I gain no power or healing from starting every sentence by calling myself an alcoholic. It’s demeaning to me honestly.
@@bushhippie7372 I do hope you find your path. In the 1880's there was no answer for alcoholism. The first story here demonstrats to me, a story of untreated alcoholism Who knows though, maybe he could have gotten sober in AA, and still have been a sober stage coach robber?
Congratulations!
Good for you ma’am. All the best to you. Edited and thank you for your service as well. I admire those with such discipline and determination in face of great challenges and adversity.
I hated history going to school.. can’t get enough of it now a days 🙄 I love your videos!! Thank you!!!
Having grown up in the old Cowtown of Lemmon SD, I have a soft spot in my heart for the old badmen of the early days. Dad was born in 1910 and was familiar with some of the criminals who terrorized the Midwest in the 30's in fact he knew some of them on a first name basis having met the through the bootleggers of that time and used to regal me with tales of shared adventures. History has always been a favorite topic of mine and I do have a quite a collection of old books on the subject that I have worn thin by reading and re-reading. Dad was the same, but he loved to old magazines and always had several on is end table, many from the Old West, and more modern detective magazines that were popular before television glommed onto our brains and destroyed the desire to learn from the written word. Thank you so much for this series, I keeps me searching for even more history that is worth remembering.
Just wonderful stories as told by our favorite historian. Thanks as always THG!
- Ed on the Ridge
My congratulations sir, this has been probably the most complete history. Of Butch and Sundance I have heard yet, work well done.
I always love your content for the history but I adore your ability to humanize almost anyone.
You are the best historical story teller I've ever come across sir, it's a joy and pleasure to listen to you bring forgotten history back to life. Well done sir, cheers.
Dear sir, I'm not normally a far west history fan, but your recension of those cases delighted as much as they interested me. Thank you.
Addiction played much larger of a role in the old west than people know. It’s evolved along with us like tools, dogs and war.
You are so right!! I remember how surprised I was when I learned that the early settlers, cowboys, etc., LOVED opium.
@@christineparis5607 a big part of “Tombstone” was Mrs. Earp’s Lodnum addiction (sp?) alcohol and opium. Not sure about the historic accuracy… also plays a part in one of my personal favs “Deadwood.”
@@blackmoonco "Laudinum"
@@danahansen5427 yesssir
I've lived in a town where the kids gathered "at the four-way" on Saturday night, and towns where the kids turned out headlights when they drove to a barn somewhere so the Sheriff wouldn't hassle them.
They say the only thing to do in such places late-night on Saturdays was to drink and die.
One of my favorite quotes... "You're never truly done for as long as you have a good story, and someone to tell it to." -the legend of 1900
What a stack of stories you have sir. You're welcome at our campfire any day. Really enjoy your videos!
My mother’s family weee from Buffalo Gap, and her sister wrote a book about our family history and the local community, wherein she mentions Lame Johnny creek and the tree he was hanged on. its so cool actually hearing about this guy and his story, knowing of its connection to my family’s hometown. thanks.
It's sooo refreshing to see an unbiased history of these people. I've seen others but they all seem to have an axe to grind and a position to defend. In reality I'm afraid, as in so much history, we may never know exactly the truth of the matter.
yes indeed! revisionist 'history" and the peddlers of that tripe seriously rankle myself and the whole of our group, the American Mountain Men. cheers joel~
Very much appreciate your taking up topics from the Old West. Please do more.
Fellows issues with addiction are prescient to many people's struggles in the modern day. Being 5 years sober and still watching old friends struggle, fail, and die makes his story so very personal.
Many never escape, I am happy to hear that you have done so , and retained empathy, and regard for others, a resounding confirmation of your True Self,, you Sir are INTACT,,
Iv been clean for 23 years just remember take it a day at a time lose all your old using friends go to meetings have a sponsor now you won't need it forever I haven't done it in 10 years now ⁶ but i did it for 15 years or so becouse you need that at first but I still belive in my higher power Jesus Christ threw him all thinks are possible what do you have to lose by trying nothing but you stand to gain a eternal life
Huh?
Continue to stay on the right side of the lawn buddy. : ) Peace.
Seeing comments like this give me hope
This has been my favorite episode so far! Thank You! I lived in Telluride for years, love the history of the region. The bank the Butch & Sundance robbed is still there, it's just retail space now. And there is a condo complex named for Ethel Called 'Etta Place' of course
Butch Cassidy robbed a bank in a little town of Montpelier, Idaho. He did it to hire a lawyer for his friend Sundance which was in jail in Utah. The building the housed the bank still stands to this day, and it's owned by.......a bank.
New subscriber. I love History more than any other subject, especially 19th century American History and Wild West outlaws and gunfighters. I am fascinated by the parallels between the gunfighters of the wild west and the outlaws of the 1930's.
long time sub, 'nam era vet.
love this channel. it always amazes me how our hs teachers could make it boring.
I've seen these all before, but they're even better presented together. Thanks!
Regarding Dick Fellows, there is actually newspaper articles describing how the bandit cleaned up his act and did move to Kentucky. Eventually he died there in 1933 (also more evidence, a headstone purchase order). Hope Thompson wrote an article about it on unmasked history.
Always excellent and informative. Please consider future episodes about Pancho Villa and the U.S. response to the issues across the border.
I always enjoy your presentation. Great info.,well presented.since I retired from nursing my studies take up much of my time: Civil War, U.S. prez., Wild West and great ships like Titanic and Sultana. As I have taught nursing, I hope to teach some history. There are so many interesting things to study. I would like to share this knowledge with others
Thanks for this compilation. The old west is my favorite period of American history.
Just about the best historian I’ve ever heard.
The book and film of the story of Jeremiah Johnson has always given me the best vision of what living and surviving out west must of been like. It’s a wonderful story and Redford played the role perfectly.
My dad dated a lady who told a tale of growing up in her ancestral Missouri village. As a girl, she reported, there was an old man everyone called "Uncle Jesse." On his deathbed Uncle Jesse told a man to go to a certain cave for a "big surprise" and look for a small cairn formation of stacked rocks.
The search party found a box of debtor's notes from an old bank, gun belts and jackets.
It's speculated the belts and box were discarded by the bandits who had to leave the bulky items behind in order to maneuver the snaking path to the back door of the cave network, as the entrance had a posse and Sheriff pointing guns therein.
So begins the "Tale of Uncle Jesse"... A true story, actually!
Not believable in the least. Go publish if you wanna call it true.
I am the son of the woman who your dad dated. I think there is a chance we are brothers.
@@Marin3r101 You don't believe my dad's girlfriend told us a story?🤪
I absolutely love your channel and videos! I live here in Ouray, CO and Butch Cassidy and Sundance and mentioned often here. Supposedly I live in the part of town that they would stay overnight in, when they would travel from Telluride to Lake City. I have been a long-time fan of your channel and I look forward to seeing more in the future. Please keep doing what you are doing and don't let any networks get their manipulative hands into your amazing research and videos :)
Nice I'm not far from Ouray, I live near Durango. I've lived all over the country but I've been here 7 years now and it's by far my favorite
I’m just a bartender, but listening to Dick Fellows makes me feel so very, very competent.
better than an alcoholic lawyer and bandit.
Selling alcohol to alcoholics makes you worse them them.
@@Thenotfunnyperson but they tip well! Somebody’s gotta do it might as well pay my bills with their money.
@@Thenotfunnyperson hahaha
My favorite subject.
Been a study of the Wild West since I was a kid!
Well, at least Dick Fellows (probably) died a free man. Poor bastard. But on second thought, isn't an attorney just as bad as a stagecoach robber?
Worse. You can be an honest stagecoach robber.
WELL THAT ALL FOLKS SOME GREAT STORY TELLING AND MUCH WE SHOULDN'T FORGET .
As a young boy, I was introduced to Lula Parker Betenson, the youngest sister of Robert Leroy Parker (Butch), by my father. He grew up in Circle valley, Utah, and knew the family. My great grandfather knew Robert and had a few stories about him. There are many credible sightings and encounters of "Butch", after he was supposedly killed in South America. I have talked with a few of the people, and they all said Robert was just happy that there was so much confusion about him. In the last few years, some of the remaining family descendants have opened up a bit about some of the previously hushed stories concerning his final resting place. I personally think Ol' Butch is rather tickled that we're still talking about him 100 years later.🙂
Well if you own a Famous Private Agency & got 3 people you can't catch. Getting embarrassed. Business sense tell you if you get a easy out. Take it. It's like today sometimes it hard to tell who the good guy are from the bad guy. Something's I guess do never change. My family had problems with Pinkerton Detective Agency themselves long time ago really just paid thugs & outlaws all they was I personally feel. How Pinkerton got his famous name now even getting in huge question if it was a set-up he involved in.
My father as a boy knew the Sundance Kid. He and Butch returned from South America. The deputy sheriff was Matt Warner my father's uncle, an ex member of the Wild Bunch. Butch is said to have been around and left for California or Montana, but we never heard from him again. Sundance lived to old age and didn't make anymore trouble. He was buried in the Price City Cemetery in an unmarked grave, or so I have been told. BTW Deputy Matt knew Sundance, they lived in the same small mining town. Deputy Matt looked the other way as he also did to the many brothels in town.
I think it was Lula I saw in a documentary many years ago.She said Butch had definitely come home after the Bolivia visit.Forget what she said about Etta & Sundance though.
@@stephencoleman3578 Interesting.But Etta seems to have vanished from history.
I promise you he doesn't care if he didn't know the Lord Jesus Christ which most don't he's an eternal torment, make sure you know the Lord Jesus Christ and are born again before you take your last breath.
While in Winnemucca NV during the summer of 1976, I noticed a small sign in the 1st National Bank of Nevada's window claiming this branch was robbed by Butch Cassidy and his gang in 1900.
Thanks for putting your videos together in one long piece I downloaded it and watched it while the electricity was out something awesome to watch thank you. Your coverage of history is great
I truly enjoyed this episode, and was pleased to see conjecture treated as such. Incredibly interesting and well presented.
I came to love many of Louis L’Amour’s stories for painting a rugged and yet somehow magical frontier in which life was hard yet it brought a sense of freedom hard to find nowadays
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. It’s a change of of pace learning about un known or lesser known outlaws. My question is. What ever became of the mystery women of the Wild West. Edda Place after leaving Bolivia???
Speculation about what happened to Etta Place is included in the last video in the compilation. Like Butch and Sundance, she may have been killed in Bolivia participating in a Bank Robbery, or she might have returned to the United States.
Excellent. Most important you are not annoying and ez to listen to. Beside the fact highly intelligent, very informed and researched. I enjoyed this. Thank you.
Will you please do an episode on Sidney NE? So much history that deserves to be remembered there. From Ft Sidney, the Sioux Ordinance Depot (also known as Sioux Army Depot), the Fascination car produced by the Highway Aircraft Corporation, & Cabela’s.
They used to stage "The Hanging of Flyspeck Billy" for tourists is Custer if I recall properly.
I have watched several of these documentaries I guess you would call them and I thoroughly enjoyed the way it's presented here very fine work sir
THG has 1.08M Subs! This so pleases me, for he deserves all the benefits that accompany this evolving Success.
(His narratives remind me of an earlier era when Journalists were Anchors, Owners made an effort to respect the Public, Polite was reflected in the greater number of interactions, and Presidents and Parents behaved like Mature Minded Adults.)
I grew up in Utah and one of my favorite places is Southern Utah. One of the places they say The Wild Bunch laid low is known as The Robbers Roost. Near Toquerville, UT.
A little Western Jewelry trivia: the Bolo tie was created by a Navajo in the 1890’s. Until the 1920’s it was not that common, more used by the Navajo than any other group.
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Every time I hear about Butch Cassidy it reminds me of a sign I saw enroute to Bryce Canyon. The sign said “Butch Cassidy Draw.” This was many years before Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was made. I asked who Butch Cassidy was. My mother told me he was a local outlaw that would never receive the notoriety that others like Billy the Kid received. How little did she know.
This Dick Fellows story would make a heck of a great movie!
Excellent coverage! Thanks!
I'm imagining a well written script of the true life story of Dick Fellows directed by a top flight director, with dream team cast and crew that lures Daniel Day-Lewis out of retirement. Potential for a great film. How has a historically accurate film of this guy not been made? Practically writes itself. When done well, Westerns will always have an audience.
I don't know about getting set on casting a specific actor, even as great of a method actor as him, but I have definitely thought about how interesting a film about Dick Fellows could be. Definitely has appeal as a character piece as much as a western.
You are still the best storyteller of all times 😊
Oh thank you for Dick Fellows 👏👏👏💕💗🇦🇺💗💕
One of your best yet. 😎
The story of "the Monitor".... wonder if it inspired the movie "War Wagon"?
What a great series!! Thank you!!
The story Dick Fellows the bad guy reminds me of a part of the song(?)
that was sung(??) on HEE HAW: IF IT WEREN'T FOR BAD LUCK, I'D HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL...
I'm not trivializing the man's addiction. He was an unlucky bad man(???).🌞🌞🌞✌✌✌✌
The Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid movie from 1969 with Robert Redford & Paul Newman as an Oscar winner 🏆 is no surprise too me; I always thought it to be a highly underated Western & one of the best in it's era! I have a great outlaws favorite western movie top 10 .........🙃👇 Down below here 🐴🤠🔫🎭⤵️
10.) The Maginificent 7 remake "Denzel Washington"
9.) Rooster Cogburn "John Wayne"
8.) The Outlaw Josey Wales "Clint Eastwood"
7.) The Quick & The Dead "Russel Crowe Sharon Stone, Gene Hackman, & Leonardo DiCaprio"
6.) 310 to Yuma remake " Russel Crowe & Patrick Bateman"
5.) Tombstone "Kurt Russel, Val Kilmore, Michael Biehn"
4.) The original Magnificent 7 "Yul Brynner & James Coburn"
3.) Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid " Robert Redford & Paul Newman"
2.) Young Guns " Emilio Estevez, Kieffer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Jack Palance, & Charlie Sheen
1.) The Good, The Bad, & The ugly " Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, & Eli Wallach"
This is a good list. Personally I am surprised you left off Unforgiven, as well as classics like Big Jake or the Man Who Shot Liberty Valence or three Godfathers or Stagecoach or the Shootist. (I grew up on John Wayne.) Rooster Cogburn isn't really an outlaw movie, right? I'd also at least give The Long Riders and Silverado honorable mentions. I'd personally leave off The Quick and the Dead, which I found cheesy.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Thank you I do like some of your list it's a good list too! I do really like Silverado it was very good it would be my #11 if I had a top 20 lol but yeah I have many favorites especially John Wayne but I really like it prefer Clint Eastwood, Yul Bryner, Emilio Estevez Kerry Russel & Russel Crowe because they were in my favorites! Emilio Estevez was in another Western & he was in another one called Dollars for the Dead but it was a low budget & they didn't make many VHS copies & it's a rare gem 💎 but I actually loved it too pieces but it's cheesy but I still enjoy the action & Emilio was really good in it & that would be my #12 lol but yeah I like Big Jake & The Sons of Katie Elder as well
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Does Little Big Man count? Dustin Hoffman
@@robrichmond6171 hmmm- I don’t generally think of Little Big Man as an outlaw movie…
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel yea...guess I was thinking westerns.......ever check out the Waterloo Wonders from 1930s rural Ohio?.....better than Hoosiers.....also upon mentioning the alcohol problems.....how about the Mayflower Pilgrims and others of the time arriving in New world addicted to booze and so used to water being polluted in Europe the didn't dare drink 5he clean waters here and kept returning and or begging booze shipments.....all good stuff.....enjoy your content
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
So freaking cool thank you !
I've listened to this one multiple times over the past eight months...
If I could tell my story with all the opportunities and failures, the addiction to drugs (meth for me,) and brief periods of sobriety, the time incarcerated where I was a model prisoner (including being a trustee in the local jail plus while in prison being awarded a 60 day time cut on a 21 month commitment (I was sentenced to twenty years!)) The pain of failing so spectacularly that all I could do was leave in sorrow. I have often said of myself that "I kept everything I should've left behind and threw away everything I should've kept."
I AM NOT PROUD OF WHERE I FIND MYSELF TODAY. THIS STORY IS TRUE AND IN THIS COMMENT I HAVEN'T EVEN SCRATCHED THE SURFACE!!
Have a good everyone.
Always, Andy
Shawshank Redemption
In print, in song and on film, we do love westerns! 🎶Out in the West Texas town of El Paso, I fell in love with a Mexican girl🎵
Surly Joeeeeeee.....
“Night time would find me in Rosie’s Cantina - the music would play and Felina would whirl” 🎶😄
Blacker than night were the eyes of Felina, wicked & evil while casting a spell.
🎶 she tied me up with some rope and a lasso, wicked felina was actually Filipe when he dropped his drawers my tequila did hurl. 🎶. Gasping and gagging while crawling and begging please Mr Filipe just let me alone,.
Laughing and grinning he started sinning ole wicked felina just gave me the bone. 🎶
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Have not seen your shows for a very long time. Missed you.
We continue to post every Monday Wednesday and Friday.
When he said "But that's another story".
I was caught out then in the next featured story it was a continuation of the last story.
Well played History Guy,
Well played indeed.🤔
Now we need a whole new feature of Pirates.
From Asia.
Maybe the original pirates...
The Sea People!
Plus anything else someone could add to? Maybe?
Just asking for a friend 🤭
Regarding Harry Logan aka Kid Curry, 30 some years ago the museum at Malta, Montana told me that it was Kid Curry who had robbed that train outside their town. And that Curry so intimidated the engineer, that he backed east all the way to Glasgow to report the robbery.
It was also said at the museum that Kid Curry was thought to be the best and fastest gunfighter of the Wild Bunch.
Dick Fellows: a heart-wrenching story.
This sounds mostly good to me. One missed detail, though. A team from the TV show NOVA exhumed the grave purported to be that of the "desconocidos" payroll robbers. They found only one skeleton, but it was determined to be that of a 5'11" caucasian - there weren't many such in San Vicente at the turn of the century. The skull had a definite bullet wound in the forehead. Finally, they were able to retrieve a DNA sample from a tooth. A mitochondrial DNA test was done and compared with mDNA from descendants of both the Parker and Longabaugh families on the female line (which transmits mDNA). The dead man was not related to either family.
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I watch your segments religiously, so I've seen all these before. I don't care, they're still awesome and I watched again.
Some sources refer to Butch Cassidy as George Leroy Parker instead of Robert Leroy Parker. You explained in so many words why this mistake is sometimes made.
End of the trail searches don't necessarily mean that the person's trail actually ended, but it is pretty likely. Consider the possibility that it was Harry Logan (Kid Curry)and Harry Longabaugh (Sundance Kid) that robbed the mine payroll and got killed. You mentioned that someone had identified Logan down there at the time. And perhaps Butch had left South America when they fled Argentina. Ethyl (Etta) survived the wounds from the earlier robbery and tried to establish Longabaugh's death. Perhaps she remarried. Perhaps she went to San Francisco. Perhaps died there or in route. Her trail runs cold. Butch could have returned and exploited the belief of his demise by reinventing himself. Both his and Longabaugh's correspondence stopped, but Butch would have changed names.
Good episodes all together. Thanks.
My father grew up in Nevada. He said their neighbor was an old rancher who claimed. As a boy Butch and Sundance swapped for fresh horses at their ranch once. Giving him their tired horses.
A splendid compilation.
I think by the time film came along the mold had already been set. Even more so than the films I enjoy the programs on Sirius XM satellite radio's radio classics. Gunsmoke with William Conrad as Marshall Matt Dylan, John Dehner as the frontier gentleman, Jimmy Stewart in Six Shooter... The myth of the West began in the penny dreadfuls penny dreadfuls and was refined on radio.
Okay "History Guy" you are like the History teacher that I never had waaaay back in grammar school eh? ... But what's really awesome about you sir is this; You love what you do as an historian and a fine educator! All levels of ages young and old without or without a PHD degree love you Sir! 👍👍👌
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A legal education is not infrequently a solid foundation for a life of crime.
Oh yes is is.
The Homestake Mine is now a museum.
And a research facility. I grew up in the Black Hills back when it was a working mine.
My father was a mining engineer at the Homestake for a while.
This reminds me of the Country Western song: "i Might Have Been a Lawyer, But I Couldn't Pass the Bar".
one of my favorite subjects.
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This episode makes me wonder when the first plea bargain was dealt?
I grew up with westerns of the 60's and onward but being a history buff I spent time learning about the old west (I live in Kansas so much of it was a part of my state's history). I think I should have stayed ignorant because it wasn't like tv shows and movies, for the most part, which can make watching those same shows now a bit annoying. ie Matt Dillon walking around with his hand ready to draw when confronting trouble makers early on in Gunsmoke's early days. There were no fast-draw confrontations (that we know of) because people when fearful tended to have their gun already out and the basic truth was that even with a gun out most people aren't killers. Those kinds of people don't give you a chance and were just as likely to shoot you down whether you were looking or not. ie "Unforgiven". Nothing has really changed in that regard in today's world.
I remember an episode where Matt Dillon was shot in the head (seventh time?) & a woman found him & put that 6' 7" 240 lbs. man on a horse, by herself, took him back to her house, & put a wet rag on his forehead. In 3 days he was chopping firewood & fixing the roof.
About five years ago you talked about Dick Fellows and Soapy Smith. I also thought there was a movie that showed Dick Fellows in a scene of two, meeting some other character briefly but I searched for that movie and failed.
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Great video, well presented and told. I wish I had the answers as to what happened to Butch, Sundance and Etta/Ethel. I'd love to definitively know.
Great story. Thank you.
Excellent. Thank you.
Through wind and rain and weather, hell bent for leather, wishin’ my girl was at my side…
😄👍 The Blues Brothers did the best visual rendition.
@@HM2SGT Yes!!
I very much enjoyed this. Thank you
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My Dad loved Marty Robbins (on 8-track)
Love it!
Good video. Thank you.
The etching of the Q that you're using hides the fact that it's an island in SF Bay.
No, San Quentin is not on an island, you're thinking of Alcatraz, which was not in existence then. San Quentin is located north of San Francisco, on the shore of the Bay, in Marin County. Drove past it for years.
Your new haircut looks great!👍
Good stuff as always.
Fascinating episode.
Outstanding! What a fascinating sstory and story teller!
Thank you for sharing your research
thanks
The outlaw Johnny Ringo was at one time the Constable in Loyal Valley, Texas (Mason County). So, the lawman turned outlaw.
Love reading about Black Hills history. I live west of Custer, SD.
Back in the Saddle Again Naturally
Where you sleep out every night
And the only law is right...Whoopi-ty-aye-yay...
I'm a cowboy who never saw a cow Never roped a steer 'cause I don't know how
And I sure ain't fixin' to start in now Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay, Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay....Yippee Ki-Yay ah
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