The Mystery Of The Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine In Southwest America | Myth Hunters

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @georgelmothershed5120
    @georgelmothershed5120 5 месяцев назад +364

    The Dutchman was actually the former mining engineer for for the Vulture Mine near Wickenburg, Arizona. Local lore has it that the Dutchman embezzled gold from the Vulture Mine, took it with him Traveled to Apache Junction . Stored the gold in a cabin, went into the superstition mountains, pretending to search for gold.. Came back from the superstition mountains, took a gold from his cabin, went to a local assayer declared he found the gold in the superstition mountains, and then came up with the fictional story of finding gold in the superstition mountains. Therefore, there was never any gold in the superstition mountains, discovered by the Dutchman.

    • @marcelcicort9671
      @marcelcicort9671 5 месяцев назад +23

      Could be since otherwise they would have found it by now.

    • @stevej4922
      @stevej4922 5 месяцев назад +31

      The geology of the Superstitions also has no gold. This is a fun story, about the lost mine, but it's only a story.

    • @BradfordGuy
      @BradfordGuy 5 месяцев назад +11

      I've never heard that one before! How interesting!

    • @4WorldPeace2
      @4WorldPeace2 5 месяцев назад +11

      Then what about the corpse discovered buried with the length of chain?

    • @maxlife9721
      @maxlife9721 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@stevej4922 Ha...there are about 18 mines found...where did you get this delusion

  • @scrambledeggsalad
    @scrambledeggsalad 5 месяцев назад +24

    Grew up at the base of the superstitions, love it when the YT algo randomly suggests things like this. I've spent so much time wandering all over the area. Those mountains will forever hold a special place in my heart. If anyone else graduated from AJHS and sees this, say hi lol

    • @smiley3012
      @smiley3012 3 месяца назад +1

      I used to work for the school district back in 80s. And lived in an apartment off main st. When I was a kid we used to hike around there. Some beautiful country way back in there around spring time.

    • @nighttailglizzy6339
      @nighttailglizzy6339 3 месяца назад

      I live right here on the I 60. Hi to you neighbor, how does it go?

  • @donaldpruett852
    @donaldpruett852 4 месяца назад +31

    I'm a 80 year old Arizona native. This legend IS the Arizona treasure. For a hundred years it has fostered insane interest in Arizona and brought in millions of dollars to Arizona's economy. More money has been made by stores selling prospecting equipment to dreamers than has been made by the dreamers. Just like the purveyors of supplies to the miners of the Alaskan gold rush of 1898 and the Sutter's Mill of California's gold rush of 1849. Dreams are hope. Without hope we are lost.

    • @blueexplorer76
      @blueexplorer76 3 месяца назад

      The obvious being overlooked here is that the actual legend behind Waltz was concealed as he was a watcher of the mines for Reavis (the Baron of Arizona), who's affairs land in the middle of the timeline when the publishing of the Beale Papers had taken place in 1885. With the solving of the Beale Papers you find the discovery of a mass of information about Waltz, Reavis, and their financiers Morgan, Rockefeller, and Pike, who were directing the operations behind the Peralta Land Grab. Their whole plan to use the money for clandestine interests in a financial racket in NYC take hold, forging their financial empire with backing in millions of dollars in Gold and Silver from their heist. With the crimes of monopolizing the industries of the times made using this heisted stash, they spread into London, and teamed up with the Confederates of their cabal, and conducted a number of murders in the aftermath of the Beale, after having already murdered their 30 miners in a location called Massacre Grounds.
      facebook.com/SolvingBealePapers

  • @lindathomas2350
    @lindathomas2350 5 месяцев назад +42

    I am 76 years old and my grandfather was one of those men who looked for the Dutchman's mine as well as some other lost mines. He was a prospector among other things. His son, my uncle who was a geologist spend time doing the same thing. I have always been interested in geology and have my own rock collection. However, I've more important things to do in life than worry about finding lost gold. Seems like the history of this mine is riddled with death and despair. Somebody else can find it. I care nothing about it, but this tale was interesting to me. Thanks so much!

    • @ericnielsen5441
      @ericnielsen5441 5 месяцев назад

      🎓

    • @scorpion19142001
      @scorpion19142001 24 дня назад

      It is amusing. To more two generations to look for pretty gold color rocks.

  • @BradfordGuy
    @BradfordGuy 5 месяцев назад +30

    Being a native of Phoenix, I grew up hearing all of the tales of the Lost Dutchman's mine. There have been so many people who have either died or mysteriously gone missing while looking for it that it is a true legend, a mystery, a ghost story, that even just camping in the Superstitions gives one an eerie feeling. The mountains do not look that big, but I've hiked them, and you can easily become hopelessly lost if you do not give the mountains their respect.

  • @beri232
    @beri232 6 месяцев назад +35

    I love these lost treasure stories! I love hearing stories about sunken treasures too! As a kid…. I used to always dream of finding pirates treasures from hundreds of years ago. As an adult, I stack gold and silver but it’s not the same as holding something old that was lost and could now be found. The allure of this story is that the treasure would be in its raw form!

  • @crow-t-robot
    @crow-t-robot 6 месяцев назад +161

    Love living next to the beautiful Superstition mountains! We have a Lost Dutchman festival every year.

    • @Midwest10
      @Midwest10 6 месяцев назад +7

      But no balls to go looking for it

    • @dennisstephens4199
      @dennisstephens4199 6 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Midwest10 Troll

    • @rockdaddio69
      @rockdaddio69 6 месяцев назад +6

      That campground is a work of art. People in that area have strong pride in the austere beauty of nature. They keep the narrow winding blacktop clean and smooth like the back of a snake. Sunrise over the Superstitions comes long after first light.

    • @nicholaslandolina
      @nicholaslandolina 5 месяцев назад +2

      Badass story

    • @Steven-wn2vx
      @Steven-wn2vx 5 месяцев назад +2

      I would love to visit there sometime

  • @stevewheatley243
    @stevewheatley243 6 месяцев назад +22

    Not many videos I find that I interesting. This is an exception.👍

  • @BionicRusty
    @BionicRusty 6 месяцев назад +47

    Fantastic video. 👏👏👏
    I love these tales.
    My interest started when we bought our home in 1997.
    The house was built in 1912 and during some repair work on the main stairs, I found a small wooden box. In it was a folded piece of what I think is parchment, so pretty old.
    It’s definitely a map and mostly faded but under certain light we can see the name Weiss or Weise?
    We had it framed and it has pride of place on the stair wall.
    A friend who is a historian joked it was The Dutchman’s Map and that’s what sparked my interest.

    • @tw1356
      @tw1356 5 месяцев назад +6

      The map the Dutchmen gave his friend, the true signature is located bottom right corner looking as a scribel.

    • @AriesWolfy
      @AriesWolfy 5 месяцев назад +4

      have you checked it's authentication? have you looked into finding out more information about that map you have and seeing what the history is behind it? I would definitely the homework

    • @BradfordGuy
      @BradfordGuy 5 месяцев назад +6

      Well hell...don't tell everyone! Didn't you listen to the story? 😊

    • @tw1356
      @tw1356 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@BradfordGuy History told the storyline. The Dutchmen dictated the path. I understand the gold deposit is a superposition untouchable.

    • @tw1356
      @tw1356 3 месяца назад +1

      @@BionicRusty Thank you for your story. I whould suggest if authentic, first begin with what may look as a scribel and compair with like shaped Egiption writings. Your looking for a comment or bragged snip that the Dutchmen whould of marked the map as being written by a (36 degree Mason) a judge of men!

  • @JedidiahLincoln
    @JedidiahLincoln 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is my favorite Myth Hunters episode. Thanks for uploading it

  • @janjohnsonamarillas3386
    @janjohnsonamarillas3386 3 месяца назад +4

    This is the best Lost Dutchman Doc I think I have ever watched, actually based on facts .
    Brownie Holmes was my sister in laws step dad , she has been in my family since the
    60's ! Thank you for posting this !

  • @mcknifed
    @mcknifed 6 месяцев назад +22

    Surprised the 'Peralta" stone map wasn't mentioned. U.P.

  • @dougsmith1721
    @dougsmith1721 6 месяцев назад +15

    I have a book on lost treasures in Colorado. When I lived there, I sometimes casually looked for several of them. I think the real treasure is in the story, the searching and the imagination of discovery. The trouble with all these lost treasures is the constantly evolving mountains. They will probably never look the same as the clues. One such story was the finding of massive gold by a hunter in a snow storm. He carefully marked the spot but never found it again. I heard he died in the state hospital without ever finding the gold again. The mountain had reworked itself over winter and nothing was the same. Have fun and good luck looking for any of them.

    • @caseycurtis7497
      @caseycurtis7497 5 месяцев назад +1

      I live in Colorado. What is the name of this book? I haven't heard about anything besides Forest Fenn's treasure, which some theorized was in Colorado, but was actually found in Wyoming.

    • @dougsmith1721
      @dougsmith1721 5 месяцев назад

      @@caseycurtis7497 Sorry for the delay. Just checked notifications. The name of the book is COLORADO TREASURE TALES by W.C. Jameson. Mine was published in 2001. Great book for anyone familiar with the state. I love this book.

  • @Thecodexnoir
    @Thecodexnoir 6 месяцев назад +60

    Az native here, I literally grew up searching for The Lost Dutchman in the early 80’s, as we called it, my Father’s a Prospector, we spent EVERY weekend & holiday out there gold panning & metal detecting, & I do mean EVERY free day, we were out there with the maps. My Father’s a MENSA member, he really thought he could find it, we never did but we sure did find a LOT of trouble!!! I’ve been shot AT, chased, had standoffs with psychotic old prospectors that ‘lived’ on the land… it’s actually VERY dangerous & I do NOT suggest that anyone go looking now either, sht’s only gotten worse with the invention of the internet.
    AZ is The Wild West, it’s NOT texASS or Montana or any of that WEAK sht, it’s ARIZONA. Don’t go poking around unless you want to find out 🔥

    • @scottsmith5623
      @scottsmith5623 6 месяцев назад +14

      Now THIS is a story worth hearing!

    • @Thecodexnoir
      @Thecodexnoir 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@scottsmith5623 That’s funny, I’ve never thought about telling it as a story, it was just everyday life to me 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’ll definitely think about that, I’m sure my father would find it entertaining 😆

    • @robertporch8895
      @robertporch8895 6 месяцев назад +4

      I would loved to have spent some time roaming around Arizona looking for gemstones, precious metals, arrowheads, fossils and stuff. I did spend it dragging my kids over the Southeast looking for Indian artifacts, civil war relics, fossils, rocks, gemstones, plants, antiques and whatever was interesting. My kids could probably relate to you.

    • @Thecodexnoir
      @Thecodexnoir 5 месяцев назад

      @@robertporch8895 did y’all ever find anything noteworthy? 👀

    • @frankedgar6694
      @frankedgar6694 5 месяцев назад +4

      How many active mines in the area are actually productive? As someone who’s too cheap to pay the MENSA testing fees, my question is why? Why search an area where there’s apparently not enough gold to attract large operations. Is gold actually present in any real quantities? How much of the legend about the mine and the miner just Arizona bull s&!t?

  • @richardperry5538
    @richardperry5538 5 месяцев назад +4

    Truly Fascinating!! Absolutely loved this, thank you!!!

  • @bigskunk801
    @bigskunk801 6 месяцев назад +13

    It’s about time that someone told this story. After all these years it finally came out. Now maybe there will be another gold rush.

    • @charlenejones68
      @charlenejones68 6 месяцев назад +2

      There's still gold in Alaska. 🙂✌

    • @jamesrjohanniii774
      @jamesrjohanniii774 5 месяцев назад +3

      This is no secret everyone who grows up in AZ has heard of it. There street name sand a state park named "lost Dutchman" Huge sing on the freeway as to drive past the superstion mountains. Every year we go to then Ren festival we drive past it lol..

    • @bigskunk801
      @bigskunk801 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamesrjohanniii774 i get it sarcasm sometimes doesn’t come across in comments.

    • @deltabluesdavidraye
      @deltabluesdavidraye 5 месяцев назад +1

      Lol

    • @DavidC_AZ
      @DavidC_AZ 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@charlenejones68 Now that I totally believe! Would love to come searching there.

  • @nschlaak
    @nschlaak 4 месяца назад +2

    Living close enough to this area and driving past it occasionally piqued my curiosity. A man claims to have found the mine but an earthquake caused a massive boulder to fall into the opening. He has since passed away however his team including his son are still working on getting around or under this huge rock.

  • @UAPReportingCenter
    @UAPReportingCenter 5 месяцев назад +4

    You guys did a great job on this!

  • @victorylane24
    @victorylane24 4 месяца назад +1

    The production value of this video is excellent! Nice job!

  • @Loopster86
    @Loopster86 5 месяцев назад +5

    I have been reading Dutchman stories since I came here 40 years ago. This story doesn't even resemble the credible stories I've read before... it's like an amalgam of stories which is what the treasure mags do

  • @joeleon5786
    @joeleon5786 6 месяцев назад +31

    Babe get the kids packed n get ready! We’re going west!!!

  • @ramirovaldez3061
    @ramirovaldez3061 6 месяцев назад +15

    Great basic story with a lot of missing information based on all the clues that treasure hunters have gathered and shared in last century. Fear or greed divided all of them which lead them basically no where near the goldmine. But the sad stories of never finding the goldmine are so true. In fact Brownie was right he took the wrong military trail. But what those that mean? First of all, historians should know by now that the military trails primarily ran from Fort to Fort, such as Fort McDowell to Fort Apache. The Apache claimed the location of the goldmine and part of the military trail to Fort Apache was used in route to San Carlos because it was a safe trail being that Fort Apache was the closest Fort to the town. None of the trails in the superstitious climb a mountain range towards the east except the military trail to Fort Apache. Jacob Waltz explained that when climbing one had to look back at the needle because the needle points to the goldmine. The goldmine’s elevation location had been cipher on two of the Peralta cipher stones to be exactly 1847 feet above sea level which is the same ground level as Aztec Peak. In order to align yourself to the needle you had to reach the saddle peak on top of the Sierra Ancha Mountain Ridge. But you need a spyglass to make sure you’re in line. The saddle peak is the best view cause you can see the Four Peaks line up to the northwest, the needle pointing, the military trail coming from Fort McDowell, and since your above Jacob Waltz’s goldmine, as he mentioned, then by looking downward a mile away towards the East your going to see the hidden canyon that is very visible from above. At ground level you’re going to miss it unless you see it from above first then you where it is. Jacob Waltz did not sealed the goldmine. He sealed an entrance to the north canyon ledge that lead to the goldmine. As the Spaniards once said, you could not bore from above the goldmine or from below the steep ledge because it’s surrounded by hard rock. First of all you must be in the right location and second of all you cannot dig into the ground to cheat the Dutchman’s goldmine.

    • @ramirovaldez3061
      @ramirovaldez3061 6 месяцев назад +5

      Some of you do not understand how the monumental rock structure called the needle points to the lost Dutchman’s goldmine. The monumental rock structure points like a finger in your hand. It doesn’t point down, up, or straight. It points far away over the highest mountain ridge towards the east. Its size, altitude, based on location can be viewed from many miles away especially with a spyglass. The needle was chosen in the creation of a stone cipher map by a person belonging to a secret organization in the early 1800’s because there was something on the needle that actually points in the direction of the goldmine. The stone cipher map was discovered by a Peralta family member at the foothills of the superstitious mountains which meant that there was no LDM on the superstitious mountains. There was no LDM as far as the needle could see cause the mine was hidden over the highest mountain ridge. He transferred the cipher map onto a ledger. The Peralta member succeeded in finding the goldmine, but that came with a lot of trouble, sacrifice and death brought upon by the Apache. The land soon became the property of the U.S. government. The Peralta member needed an American and contracted Jacob Waltz to help in extracting gold from the secret goldmine somehow Jacob Waltz acquired the cipher map and before he died gave it to Julia Thomas before his death. This map describes what was being used as a pointer which was the left side wall as described by the shadow but you can only see the wall from far away. It is the line of sight that you align yourself to locate the mine. A symbolic structure was needed for leading and deceiving those who don’t understand ciphering?

    • @caseycurtis7497
      @caseycurtis7497 5 месяцев назад +3

      So if you know all of this, why haven't you found it?

    • @ramirovaldez3061
      @ramirovaldez3061 5 месяцев назад +3

      My specialty skill and knowledge I have acquired happens to be in deciphering old symbolic cipher treasure maps, cipher text, and cipher messaging. The cipher maps are very precise when you figure them out. I’m here to let those treasure hunters know the location of the hidden treasure because as I said I can’t read ciphers. I’m not here to help myself with the gold or to extract it. I’m here to help the treasure hunters who have not found since the time it has been mentioned. You are welcome to go find it if that’s what you’re looking for.

  • @tommymayfield814
    @tommymayfield814 5 месяцев назад +8

    If the mine was ever real, the government took all the gold long ago. I think the Dutchman killed those men but lied about the mine. He could have stolen the ore from another mine and used the cover story to explain where his gold came from. He had no reason to tell Dick about his actual mine if there ever was one. He hated Dick and would have thought it was funny to lead him on a wild goose chase.

  • @susanOkie60
    @susanOkie60 5 месяцев назад +8

    I lived in butte Montana which was a massive gold streak.
    I was told by people that live in Butte long term that they could pan the dirt in the yard and find gold.
    Gold does not stay in a underground streak. There would be gold around the area on the surface.

    • @davidbreen4353
      @davidbreen4353 5 месяцев назад

      years ago, there was a cowboy with a metal detector at the base of those mountains, he was finding fine flakes of gold right on the surface of the ground. he said it would take him a month to pick half an ounce. i thought that was interesting though.

  • @riskyron1416
    @riskyron1416 5 месяцев назад +3

    A minor treasure. That of Coco Island is estimated to be over $17,Billion, the total of 4 years of all the looting in South America by the Spanish Empire.. Several other pirates also buried treasures there from 1520 to the 1870's. An uncle of mine was Governor of Cocos Island and searched for the treasure for 17 years.
    Arizona Attorney General Bob Corbin spent many years looking for the Lost Dutchman mine. The Dutchman was known as Jacob Waltz or Jacob Waltzer and was from Munich Germany.

  • @Ironsja11
    @Ironsja11 5 месяцев назад +7

    It was probably found and cleaned out years ago, because real treasure hunters don't talk when they find something.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад +2

      Agree! Watched a doc made by 3 friends who went looking for the mine. All caught on film, their cameras left behind. Scary stuff!

    • @codya.k.a.nlnjacr1tt3r
      @codya.k.a.nlnjacr1tt3r Месяц назад +1

      ​@@gordocarbo Do you happen to know the name of the documentary? Sounds like an interesting watch.

  • @xtreme242
    @xtreme242 6 месяцев назад +30

    Thanks for covering my state 😊 I grew up on the lost Dutchman mine in the superstitions

    • @Midwest10
      @Midwest10 6 месяцев назад

      And didn’t find crap

    • @kc-gl9wv
      @kc-gl9wv 6 месяцев назад +1

      Grew up on what, dirt..lol

    • @kempeioniiko7916
      @kempeioniiko7916 5 месяцев назад

      I hiked those trails

    • @caseyellzey5392
      @caseyellzey5392 3 месяца назад

      @@Midwest10you are literally the rudest person ever. No one ever said they found anything. It’s just a legend.

  • @LuigiMordelAlaume
    @LuigiMordelAlaume 6 месяцев назад +26

    I'm gonna keep a chunk of high purity gold ore on me so when I die I can start a legend of a lost gold mine. That's how you make a legacy 😎

    • @Midwest10
      @Midwest10 6 месяцев назад +2

      You can’t afford McDonald’s. Good luck with that

    • @ulknatmelknatu
      @ulknatmelknatu 6 месяцев назад

      Then quit your crack habit and put down the meth first. Then go out and pick up some gold.

    • @mikebacherl2490
      @mikebacherl2490 5 месяцев назад

      Uh...where on your body will that gold be???

    • @ulknatmelknatu
      @ulknatmelknatu 5 месяцев назад

      @@mikebacherl2490 his grill.

    • @chrislouden7329
      @chrislouden7329 5 месяцев назад

      He regularly brought back lots of ore! He didn’t plan on getting pneumonia and dying! He gave clues to his mine to friends but all over those mRNA those clues match multiple places

  • @skrillozedd
    @skrillozedd 5 месяцев назад +2

    I grew up right under the Superstition Mountains. love those mountains 🌵

  • @masterofnone2705
    @masterofnone2705 6 месяцев назад +8

    great story and thank you.

  • @danthegeetarman
    @danthegeetarman 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow. Amazing video and story. I’m a sucker for a good old gold mine treasure hunt story

  • @Mrz-sb1hw
    @Mrz-sb1hw 5 месяцев назад +5

    Tell the story within an hour then croak just before you can tell the gold finding location. Aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh can you imagine how frustrating that is.

  • @richardpierce7819
    @richardpierce7819 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thing is there was a rock slide a few yrs ago , so I doubt anyone will find it because it is covered by tons of sand and rock. I dont think any of the landmarks survived the storm .

  • @billyjackvallejo9299
    @billyjackvallejo9299 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great watch always heard about this living in Arizona maybe one day ill go for a hike .

  • @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours
    @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours 6 месяцев назад +17

    Watching from Mackinac Island Michigan

    • @mattmatt6572
      @mattmatt6572 6 месяцев назад +2

      Watch out for trolls you are our first defense.

    • @Midwest10
      @Midwest10 6 месяцев назад +1

      Mackinac city would be a better choice. Too tourist. Too cold. Too much snow. Sorry for you

    • @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours
      @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours 6 месяцев назад

      @Midwest10
      Not really
      I love it.
      Have for 25 year's

    • @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours
      @Chadswonderfulwalkingtours 6 месяцев назад

      @@mattmatt6572
      Absolutely

    • @DavidC_AZ
      @DavidC_AZ 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Chadswonderfulwalkingtours I drove for Arrowhead Carriages summers of 99 and 2000. Loved that place!

  • @georgehouston461
    @georgehouston461 4 месяца назад +2

    Interesting! I metal detected gold behind Vulture MINE early 90s.

  • @nofilterhistory
    @nofilterhistory 6 месяцев назад +10

    Interesting video, great idea

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good show, I grew up close to the Superstition Mountains, in AZ.

  • @rogergriffin9893
    @rogergriffin9893 3 месяца назад +1

    The gold mine of the Dutchman was found in the 1970s. There are people who know where it's at but the majority of the best ore has been removed. It is a vertical shaft on a ridge. From it you can see the Needle but it's in the distance, not nearby.

  • @brandonleroux6059
    @brandonleroux6059 3 дня назад

    omg that cadavar skull scene at 28:41 filled with clay ball hahaha. The dutchman approves.

  • @Acto22
    @Acto22 5 месяцев назад +4

    Another gut folklore story about gold,curses and graves

  • @chassisresearchkid
    @chassisresearchkid 3 месяца назад +1

    I like legends! It's what keeps the world intriguing!

  • @Boga217
    @Boga217 6 месяцев назад +11

    Love how killing the soldiers reenactment was covering them with a fitted sheet..lol goodwill didn't have an old wool blanket or something more realistic i guess.

  • @roundhouserenovations3072
    @roundhouserenovations3072 2 месяца назад +1

    I would say that there are cache's of old outlaws left to be found those who robbed ,hid ,and went out to rob again, and then were killed. Sure there is stuff like that it would be an amazing find for sure. Happy hunting.

  • @mickellis8747
    @mickellis8747 6 месяцев назад +10

    Sounds just like the legend of Lassiter's lost gold reef here in Australia.

    • @ThomasNiklaus-ol4th
      @ThomasNiklaus-ol4th 5 месяцев назад

      That reef LoL 😂. A bloke presented someone I actually know with a cabin full of gold ore. His daughter refused to accept anymore gold from him scared of getting robbed.
      My own mines run four ounces to the ton half an 18 grams average at two foot wide. One thousand ounces from a single ton.
      Australia has rich gold reefs that reef has already been found but it is nothing special.
      A lot of gold bearing reefs out that country even now go down ten twenty feet. With thousands of ounces in the first pay.
      Send me a phone number I will send you pictures taken recently of gold ore from my mine and others. Or email even panning gold I can show you half an ounce for five hours work in fine gold want a video.
      So I can prove it going out to work gold on Wednesday this week?

  • @juanvilleda36
    @juanvilleda36 3 месяца назад +2

    A guy that lived down the street from me growing up would spend his free time looking for the mine. He ended up finding a meteorite in the mountains on one of his journey's. He sold it to the university for like $200K back in 2008

    • @louie480
      @louie480 3 месяца назад

      Is that true ? How did he even figure out how to sell it or if it’s worth money ?

    • @juanvilleda36
      @juanvilleda36 3 месяца назад

      @louie480 true story. People hunt for meteorites with metal detectors all the time out in the desert, although I doubt they're finding the size of rock that he found. There's a market for it

  • @bloozswami
    @bloozswami 3 месяца назад +1

    In 1971 our bunch started camping up in that area .My buddy was shot at one time. We met a couple of old timers who of course began telling tales of Indian folks and hidden caves. We were spellbound to say the least. Go in there sometime, see for yourself. South of Horse Shoe Lake/Res in toward Ship Rock was always fun. Rough, but fun.

  • @bobmarshall3700
    @bobmarshall3700 Месяц назад

    These stories are just that, stories told around a camp fire in the old days.
    Most countries have similar legends. In Australia there is a story of Lassiter's Reef. Once again it's about an old bloke who had a secret gold mine but died without telling anybody where it was. So Australian prospectors have spent 150 years dreaming and searching the Aussie bush for Lassiter's lost gold mine............

  • @Mrz-sb1hw
    @Mrz-sb1hw 5 месяцев назад +6

    There's so many stories about the lost Dutchman's mine. You don't know what one to believe. If it's there then the Apaches will know but "mums the word".

  • @markwitt9299
    @markwitt9299 3 месяца назад +2

    For a mine to exist their would be noticeable tailings. Three men digging make a lot of tailings.

  • @swooper1615
    @swooper1615 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video...great job

  • @rogerdudra178
    @rogerdudra178 6 месяцев назад +11

    Greetings from the BIG SKY. I SPENT 11 YEARS in Phoenix from 1959. This tale is good.

    • @Thecodexnoir
      @Thecodexnoir 6 месяцев назад +3

      Bet you know Doug Stoker 🚮🤡🍼

    • @rogerdudra178
      @rogerdudra178 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Thecodexnoir Greetings from the BIG SKY. Nope.

  • @HistoryForYou68
    @HistoryForYou68 6 месяцев назад +8

    a great video

  • @frankedgar6694
    @frankedgar6694 5 месяцев назад +8

    If the Lost Dutchman mine is so productive, why are there no other gold mines in the area?

    • @doliver5447
      @doliver5447 5 месяцев назад +3

      There are several.

    • @kempeioniiko7916
      @kempeioniiko7916 5 месяцев назад +2

      There are many mines there, just most have been abandoned

    • @frankedgar6694
      @frankedgar6694 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@kempeioniiko7916 Soooo, holes in the ground. They’re not really productive mines like the Lost Dutchman is supposed to be? If it’s not productive, is it really a mine?

    • @frankedgar6694
      @frankedgar6694 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@doliver5447 Really? So why is the Lost Dutchman the only one that’s supposed to be so productive?

    • @doliver5447
      @doliver5447 5 месяцев назад

      @@frankedgar6694 It doesn’t make sense to compare an un mined claim to a claim that has been mined out. You would have to find the mine and mine it out before you could compare. But I think you mean why does no other mine have veins as rich. There was the Bulldog mine in the area, which was so rich that some think it actually was the Dutchman Mine. But geologists say the sample from under Waltz’s bed doesn’t match ore from Bulldog. But there are plenty of sources of valid information about the Lost Dutchman mine, other mines in the area, and the Superstitions. If you are interested you don’t have to look far. But the Lost Dutchman is such a big deal because Jacob Waltz did have a box of incredibly rich gold ore under his bed and he got it somewhere, probably nearby. If nothing else, he had more of it hidden nearby. It’s not a baseless legend.

  • @slickmuck4312
    @slickmuck4312 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a great story. Thanks

  • @paulgilmartin9673
    @paulgilmartin9673 2 месяца назад +1

    Watching from Chester England

  • @charlenejones68
    @charlenejones68 6 месяцев назад +12

    Watching from Anchorage, Alaska.

  • @LacunaComanche
    @LacunaComanche 6 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent video

  • @catherinespencer-mills1928
    @catherinespencer-mills1928 6 месяцев назад +13

    I was born in southern AZ, so was my mother and her father. Can't finish this, too melodramatic. Too old news.

  • @mattyfitz81
    @mattyfitz81 6 месяцев назад +4

    My theory is that the US Government mined it out in secrecy in the early twentieth century and still keeps the legend going for shits and giggles.

  • @oak699
    @oak699 6 месяцев назад +43

    LOL - you do NOT lift up a chest full of gold ore as easy as the young snapper did in the movie 😅

    • @scottsmith5623
      @scottsmith5623 6 месяцев назад +17

      EXACTLY what I thought!! But then they did say it was 48 lbs of ore…

    • @PepeCoinMania
      @PepeCoinMania 6 месяцев назад +2

      That was full of paper

    • @JB-rt4mx
      @JB-rt4mx 6 месяцев назад +4

      You mean like Mike Pence's photo op hand delivering Covid 19 supplies in large empty box's 📦📦📦📦🤣

    • @dasimparmy2289
      @dasimparmy2289 5 месяцев назад

      TDS much? ​@@JB-rt4mx

    • @dasimparmy2289
      @dasimparmy2289 5 месяцев назад +11

      ​@JB-rt4mxOg yes because a photo op of a political event that happened 5 years ago is so relevant to a legend of a gold mine in Arizona. Lay off the crazy pills. They are living rent free in your head. 😅😂😅

  • @bocollins5219
    @bocollins5219 20 дней назад

    Do not watch h this channel ads are 21min long for someone at work listening this is a major pain

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 6 месяцев назад +9

    i believe that Dick H stole the gold under the dutchmans bed, and i also believes that he didn't even share it with the woman who took care of him nor did the dutchmans sister. NOW that's a thief.

  • @RespectMyAuthoritaah
    @RespectMyAuthoritaah 6 месяцев назад +6

    Good story.

  • @LaurieValdez-zk3dy
    @LaurieValdez-zk3dy 6 месяцев назад +7

    The Legend ❤❤❤

  • @WilliamCarr-tn5qp
    @WilliamCarr-tn5qp 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is interesting and I can guarantee it's buried so deep because of an earthquake.

  • @rachelmurray1228
    @rachelmurray1228 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wow! So interesting! I believe it never will be found.

  • @Mrz-sb1hw
    @Mrz-sb1hw 5 месяцев назад +3

    Just seems like a wild goose chase. Gold is very limited. Your chances of finding gold is very very rare. The Apaches will know where it is but they won't tell you. If it exists.

  • @JC-cm9bn
    @JC-cm9bn 6 месяцев назад +4

    The gold was hidden in the Chiricahua mountains by Apache Indians and will likely never be found

  • @NomadGuardian
    @NomadGuardian 6 месяцев назад +3

    Dutchman's mine forever lost in mist of Time.

  • @steveunknown8407
    @steveunknown8407 5 месяцев назад +2

    The story that keeps tourists coming back and spending Uber amounts of money is the true Dutchman mine.

  • @mikewood8561
    @mikewood8561 6 месяцев назад +5

    Cool story. I wonder if they ever found the gold

    • @mattmatt6572
      @mattmatt6572 6 месяцев назад +2

      Curly got the gold

    • @sonnyechols5140
      @sonnyechols5140 6 месяцев назад +3

      There are some mines in the area that some folks claim is it but none of those mines contain the same type of gold that the dutchman was bringing out…I can’t remember the exact details but I think it was just larger nuggets that nobody else has produced since….there are still a few large veins that have been lost to time-the blue bucket mine in Oregan was only found once and they didn’t even know what they had and didn’t know how to get back once they found out-slumachs mine in bc is rumored to hold millions easily but old slumach took the location to his grave…I probably spelled slumach wrong

    • @mikewood8561
      @mikewood8561 6 месяцев назад

      It's crazy. It's been over 100 years and nobody's found it. I think the guy is right by bringing in the technology. I hope he finds it or somebody does. I hope somebody finds it and keeps it to themselves until they get the gold out and to turn it in and get the money. Then tell everybody where it is lol. I guarantee if you find it and you tell somebody it's there, the government will take over

    • @Midwest10
      @Midwest10 6 месяцев назад

      Yes I did. Beverly Hills resident

  • @ramirovaldez3061
    @ramirovaldez3061 2 месяца назад

    Yes, I’ve been on many treasure hunts. I’ve researched many by as much information as I can manage to collect. But the mystery of the Dutchman’s goldmine started a long time ago, during the Spaniards conquest. The priesthood that was in charge of converting the natives wore the black robe. Their organization was founded by descendants of members belonging to an old organization called the Templars. They were the leaders in the art of ciphering secret treasure maps. Most ciphers found in stone or maps are the creations of this organization. What most fail to understanding, is the recorded fact that the Spaniard found the goldmine. The priest who accompanied the Spaniard managed to keep the information a secret which was passed down. The priest, unlike the soldiers, were well liked by the natives and trusted their interpretations to include that they were the only ones to be spared aloud live among the natives. Eventually, the priest cipher the information onto a map, which was kept secret until now cause it’s being used as a book cover. But that is not all, cause years later another a priest helped a secret organization from the northeast find the goldmine. He helped cipher the location of the goldmine on to several stones called the Peralta stones. The Peralta’s found the first cipher stone containing the ciphered information that helped them locate the goldmine. A Peralta family member showed Jacob Waltz how to read the cipher map and also lead him to the goldmine. This cipher map was then passed on to Julia Thomas. It is interesting to note that nobody focuses on the truth that everything that we know was based on secret ciphering information and Jacob Waltz added his own contribution of cipher messaging which he passed on to his friends that could not understand what he was taking about. Jacob Waltz had to use the cipher method of messaging to keep it a secret among his friends who did not manage to understand, which most of you don’t understand? All the ciphers lead to one location which is the eastern summit of the Sierra Ancha mountain peak near Aztec peak. If you can muster the whole story like it should be, then the readers could appreciate what is not being said?

  • @FaceOfAmerica2.0
    @FaceOfAmerica2.0 6 месяцев назад +11

    RIP Dutchman. May you find the peace in death that you weren't afforded in life. 🙏

    • @alanscott3999
      @alanscott3999 5 месяцев назад +5

      Why? Since he killed for greed, he deserves no peace.

  • @anthonymazar3178
    @anthonymazar3178 5 месяцев назад +1

    How the LORD saved me was in this manner,i was unarmed but had my gear to survive,after entering the superstitious mountains a tall white man dressed in country attire was following me with a long nosed 357 hand gun in his hand as i was walking out i passed right by him approximately ten feet to my left on my way out and it was though i was invisible to him he didn't see me. Thank YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST!

  • @pitsmcgoo
    @pitsmcgoo 6 месяцев назад +1

    4800 dollars worth of gold weighed 240 pounds not including the weight of the quartz. It would have took several trips to steal that much gold.

  • @cadderley100
    @cadderley100 6 месяцев назад +9

    Pity that no one seems to know how to read the Peralta Stone Maps... Oh well...

    • @chadlongnecker630
      @chadlongnecker630 6 месяцев назад +1

      Peralta stones are bogus fakes

    • @cadderley100
      @cadderley100 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@chadlongnecker630 haha, if that's what you think, carry on.

    • @michaelf.2449
      @michaelf.2449 5 месяцев назад

      Y’all are fuckin crazy looked that up and it’s the obvious bored person fucking with people tale I’ve ever seen might as well be Arizona’s oak island lmao

  • @RonaldRubright
    @RonaldRubright 2 месяца назад

    The stone maps are from New Mexico where the Apache tribe of warriors looted and hid a ton of treasure and gold ingot bars! A place called Victorio Peak or mountain. Seems some people found the stash and hid some in 18 places. It's not the superstition mountains. If you seek you will find I just need my % so don't forget me my names Ron Rubright Jr. This place was near a old military missile test site over 16000 bars and there's no way they got all that gold some say the triangle was the entrance and the heart was the mountain. Some say the entrance was filled with debris. Find this place take food water and camp there! Find the treasure!

  • @ColinKelsey
    @ColinKelsey 5 месяцев назад

    Mesa apache junction did a cabinet install right up next to the superstitious mts. Awesome

  • @ramirovaldez3061
    @ramirovaldez3061 5 месяцев назад +2

    A lost Spaniard ciphered treasure map was recovered in Arizona during an investigation on an Indian reservation many years ago and the map recently surfaced as a book cover cause the owner of the map had no clue other than it being somehow connected to the lost Dutchman’s goldmine. The book is called The Lost Dutchman by James Gillcrist. It contains a fiction story, but the cipher map on the cover is very real. The map drawing contains a compass which describes the Sierra Mountain Range saddle peak located east of the Salt River valley. The actual trail on the map leads into the eastern summit in the direction of Aztec peak. The hidden canyon can only be spotted from the high point like the saddle peak. At ground level you might miss it. The map carries a ciphered symbol that describes the location of the hidden canyon, which hides the goldmine, to be around the corner to the right not far from the end of the trail. At this point you let the satellite view show you what the map is talking about. The map is talking about a one square mile area where there is a natural ground feature that looks like a horse’s neck with head which contains a hidden canyon. The horse’s head and neck was a symbolic symbol used on Julia Thomas cipher map.

  • @Mike-j7o
    @Mike-j7o 2 месяца назад +1

    Good luck !

  • @breeanaoldham2634
    @breeanaoldham2634 3 месяца назад

    My uncle must have spent half his life up there and other places. Gold panning and looking for gold. He found some too.

  • @cw9507
    @cw9507 Месяц назад

    The Fact another man witnessed the mine and almost got caught & clearly got bad vibes from the serial killer of 7 Dutchman i belive its up there somwere..

  • @ccc822007
    @ccc822007 5 месяцев назад +2

    Suprised they haven't tried to find it using LIDAR.

  •  3 месяца назад

    Another interesting tale, however I must 'correct' the early suggestion that the hunt was on for "The Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine." Surely it should be 'the hunt was on for: "The Dutchman's Lost Gold Mine...."

  • @DavidC_AZ
    @DavidC_AZ 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why didn't Tom Kollenborn get credit in this video? Everyone else got their name and a title flashed on the screen when they were interviewed. Mr. Kollenborn was a remarkable and honorable man.

  • @Mrz-sb1hw
    @Mrz-sb1hw 5 месяцев назад +1

    For all the gold in vaults in the world how many people died to put it there. Gold being dug up from the ground melted into gold bars then being put back into the ground in vaults.

  • @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC
    @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC 2 месяца назад

    Ridiculous...there's really only 1 good question, the best question, simpliest question needed to find the mine...he should have asked the Dutchman precisely how long (time wise) does is it on horseback and how many breaks did you take for how long...1-1/2 days, 3-1/2 days, 5 days....then take the known average 25 to 30 miles per day for the type of horse he had and where the horse's watering holes were-rest breaks and so forth...and then anyone can narrow down where these covered wood planks covering the dutchman's mine is within just a few miles- even to 500 yards. Really reduces search time by 10,000 percent. I would have asked the Dutch this same "time-travel" question to make sure the answer he gave was always the same-exact time. My belief... people on horse back are traveling WAY-WAY too far.

  • @TommyPrins
    @TommyPrins 5 месяцев назад +8

    more likely he was german,and americans mistook deutsch for dutch...

    • @ArnoModelstate
      @ArnoModelstate 4 месяца назад

      True, wouldn't be the first time

    • @Baker92849
      @Baker92849 2 месяца назад +2

      Or not. And the hole story is fake and they used Dutchman just to add some drama. Most English used Dutch for anything scary. As the English were beated by the Dutch on the Medway and that scared the hell out of them.

    • @TommyPrins
      @TommyPrins 2 месяца назад

      @@Baker92849 the dutch or more scary then germans,thats for sure....its the lack of common decency maybe...or the greed in their souls....

  • @stevemartin6144
    @stevemartin6144 4 месяца назад

    Incredible to see how ridiculous extents that men will go to, including murder in the name of gold and greed. They will even destroy their own lives and die in the cause of it.

  • @weldenjon
    @weldenjon 6 месяцев назад +8

    Good telling but a lot of details glossed over, some totally missed and some plain misleading. For starters Julia Thomas was not black but of mixed race. She may have only been 1/4 black. Existing photos of her detail as much.
    There was another man with Dick Holmes at the time Of Jacob Waltz's death. His name was Gideon Roberts and he owned the lot next to Jacob's.
    Rhinehart Petraesh, a German boy taken in by Julia Thomas is also never mentioned. He played a key role in helping Jacob getting that candle box with the gold ore in it placed under Jacob's bed. There is no doubt that he knew there was gold ore in that box and Julia would have known as well. What is not known is why Jacob had not already given the gold to Julia?
    It is recorded that Julia claimed Jacob did but she was never able to prove it.
    The thing is both Julia and Dick had different clues that Jacob had given them. If Dick had shared the gold with Julia they might have also shared their clues and history surrounding the mine would be quite different today for they might have found it working together.
    However, it was greed that found the mine and now it is greed that keeps it hidden!

    • @michaelf.2449
      @michaelf.2449 5 месяцев назад +1

      FYI if you put chocolate in milk what is it?

  • @vincentdavidson755
    @vincentdavidson755 3 месяца назад

    I can understand going in the winter time i spent alot of time in mountains and meny times i sad down only to look short time later at a rattlesnake comeing towards my feet close call but they are a food source

  • @dazzlingfreeman8903
    @dazzlingfreeman8903 5 месяцев назад +1

    What ever happen to the lady who took care of Jacob Waltz "The Dutch Man" when he got sick.

  • @JamesHelfrich-g2m
    @JamesHelfrich-g2m 2 месяца назад

    The Duthman mine is pine tree on the the other side is pinetree

  • @DutchKC9UOD
    @DutchKC9UOD 4 месяца назад

    I found gold in northern Wisconsin near Iron mountain, opps I mean copper harbor Michigan? Well actually both! We still mine the shore of Lake Superior while camping on the lake!

  • @Eddy-cz6fp
    @Eddy-cz6fp 5 месяцев назад +5

    I found it , spent it on creating a story about a lost mine that will have people searching for centuries

  • @jeremyglauert
    @jeremyglauert 3 месяца назад

    Well the Dutchman always had a chest of high grade ore. If he just talked about it then people would be wasting their time but he had the gold as evidence. Good possibility there’s a big mining operation going on there and they have found it but keeping it quiet. If a mine hits a huge vein of alluvial gold and they announce a drilling operation running 100lb per tonne the shares go crazy to $500 a share then everyone dumps the shares and then they want additional drilling and it works out to be 2g per tonne like most mines and just that one alluvial vein, the company generally goes broke

  • @warrenlouisiana2277
    @warrenlouisiana2277 13 дней назад

    This is a great story….

  • @andrewgillis8572
    @andrewgillis8572 5 месяцев назад +5

    so wait - the deathbed story has to be false because such a plank & earth coverage, obscured with any single winter season, would man the owner would not find his stash

    • @louie480
      @louie480 3 месяца назад

      Seems like someone already found it long ago

  • @wickedwidget3812
    @wickedwidget3812 5 месяцев назад

    The area out there looks so beautiful. Damn the mine idc about that lol I would never find it I am not that lucky lmao but I would definitely go for the beautiful scenery.