DOT Put Me OUT OF SERVICE Using KEEPTRUCKIN (MOTIVE) ELD
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2022
- GRIND GANG WHAT UP! I got put out of service using the Motive (KeepTruckin) ELD! If you use Motive (Keeptruckin) make sure you're operating in the correct log mode! Don't make this mistake!!! Feel free to comment and let us know if you've had this situation happen to you. If you want to get a Motive (Keeptruckin) ELD feel free to use the link listed below for a discount on your order. #KeepTruckin #ELD #OutOfService #Motive #ItsGrindTime💸
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Just so everyone knows, the sticker that says “ELD Keeptruckin” is NOT required. There is NO requirement for the “driver using electronic logs” on your truck. I would advise not to have any of those on any truck. It’s just advertisement for them.
Interesting, now I didn’t know this. I’ll do my due diligence. Thanks for providing this information!
Thanks for sharing, big learning lessons! Blessing will come your way for sure!
Gratitude, I’m definitely glad I could be of service! Hopefully you joined the Grind Gang. I have a bunch more videos like this one that’ll bring tons of value.
That info really help me. Great information. Thanks for taking the error. Now I know. The DOT info is always gold.
Gratitude! I’m glad I could help! Hopefully you subscribed and joined the family! #GrindGang
Thanks for the vid. And thanks for the officer speaking on camera shares all the I fo we can get
No problem! I’m glad I could be of service! Hopefully you subscribed, it’s more where that came from!
Thanks for the video keep giving information. Also, I almost got motion sickness from you spinning back and forth while pacing
I def appreciate your feedback! I’ll definitely keep that in mind when filming future videos. Definitely don’t want viewers getting sick 🤮! Hopefully you subscribe and joined The Grind Gang, if so welcome to the family!
Shalom my bro! Just subscribed! Fire shit! Keep up the good context up!
Gratitude bro 🙏🏽! Will do, welcome to the family!!!
I peeped you have a channel too. I just subscribed!
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING right on my bro. Keep it truckin God! Shalom
Appreciate you this is really good information
Gratitude, if you haven’t already feel free to subscribe. I have a lot of dope videos I’m currently working on that you may find valuable
Keep grinding bro 💪 you doing your thing out here
Gratitude King 🙏🏽
Keep pushing and Grinding. Stay safe
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DOT cop seemed decent and fair.
Yea he definitely was a pretty cool officer. He was just doing his job. He wasn’t hunting for anything. I’ve had officers inspect me for an hour plus just to find nothing.
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING definitely been down that road
It’s the worst!!! Especially if they cause you to be late or run out of hrs!
Cuz I love you boy I love this real trucker shit
Gratitude cuz, love you too! Gotta shoe the real. This industry ain’t nothing to play with!
Get keep trucking logbook sticker off..thats the red flag..when they see that you know you probably using your phone to log..Missouri scale on 55 at the 18 pulled me in just for that reason to check my logs..inspection and all...passed everything so they got me for tint violation which you can clearly see straight thru
I can definitely see that being the case. I don’t think the issues is using your phone to operate your ELD tho. I believe it’s the fact that a lot of the people using KeepTruckin are new to the industry and end up having a lot more than just log issues. A lot of them don’t have cab binders, properly charged extinguishers, triangles, some are overweight and the list goes on. I’m definitely considering removing them tho. Thanks for the insight! Hopefully you joined The Grind Gang, if so welcome to the family!
Good to know!
Thats him enforcing that the state gets paid for your wheels turning..But that was def good info for newbies like myself
I’m glad you took something from the video. If you haven’t already hit the subscribe button and join the family! It’s more useful info where that came from!
I feel your pain that's so messed up
Thanks! I would've never known
No problem! I’m glad I could help!!! Hopefully you joined the family!!!
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING I subscribed 💯
Welcome to the family!!!
good video my is already on ELD
I’m glad you enjoyed! Hopefully you joined the family!
Same exact issue im on hold for right now
Sorry to hear that. I hope more people see this on the front the end. This is definitely an avoidable violation & CSA points.
If you haven’t already and found the video valuable fee free to like and subscribe for more content like this.
That scale in Olathe can be rough at times. I went through with a wide load and they made me wait because i was 3 minutes early for the curfew. Ive never had trouble as long as im within like 5 minutes of the curfews.
Interesting, so they made you shut down early? How long did you have to wait?
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING They told me to pull around and bring in paperwork. They checked it all out and said i was good on all that but i was a few minutes too early to go through the curfew by like 3 minutes. He said that i was good to go now that the curfew was lifted since i came in and that took a few minutes longer than the 3 i was early with. Not a big deal but if i wasnt that 3 minutes early, i think i woulda gotten the green light and kept on moving. I was hauling a swimming pool , real light, just 14 foot wide.
That sucks, ELDs just became the law here in Canada on Jan 1st. I had to switch mine to ELD from ELB. What a pain in the ass.
Yea they can be a pain, but I think they help more than they harm. Us as truckers can get really greedy with the miles chasing the money. At that point you you’ll eventually become a safety risk.
For the most part when you honest with people they keep it real with you.
Agreed! Thanks for watching! Hopefully you enjoyed and joined the Grind Gang!
Dang dude, the one thing that really sucks about your situation Is not having any where to lay down when you got to sit there for ten hours.
I was actually sleeping in my truck during that time. I just ordered me something to eat, read a few pages and went to sleep 😂
I got a hotshot I'm definitely taking off this sticker
Smart man!!!
What sticker are u referring to bro? I'm tryna make sure I don't make that mistake too
The Keeptruckin/Motive sticker they send you
Box trucks get hassled because people cheat with them frequently. Sleeping in the cab of a box truck is not legal, unless it has a separate sleeper berth.
I wouldn’t say they cheat. However I would say there are a lot of people who are just miss informed and ignorant to a lot when it comes to Non CDL box truck and hot shot drivers.
It’s actually not illegal to sleep in your box truck or hotshot, so long as you log the time as Off Duty and not Sleeper Birth. At the time of recording this video I’d been operating for about 6 months. I got pulled into scale houses several times and on a few occasions given level 3-1 inspections and there was never an issue.
The only time a sleeper birth is required is when you’re running teams and if you’re trying to slip log (8/2). Other than that it doesn’t matter where you sleep as long as it’s logged as Off-Duty.
Think about it from this perspective. If it were illegal to sleep in my truck the DOT officer not only would’ve wrote me citations for the 7 days preceding when I slept in the truck. He also would’ve advised me to catch an Uber to a hotel or would’ve gave me a citation once I attempted to leave after sleeping in the truck.
I once was under the same impression, but I did my due diligence and found out other wise. I definitely appreciate your feedback. Conversations like this helps our industry and community as a whole!
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING I have had a bunch of older guys. I'm 40. Tell me I can't sleep in my truck in off duty and I laugh at them they get all upset and start trying g to quote dot laws and what not. I just smile tell them I've done my proper research and I'm in the clear
Exactly, that’s really all you can do 🤷🏽♂️. It doesn’t get clearer than this video. I slept in the truck at the Weigh Station. I’m sure he would’ve made me leave if I couldn’t do it. People are always quoting DOT regulations they’ve NEVER read themselves.
What about sleep, I don't see know sleeper on that straight truck, you're going to be pretty tired when it's time to go back to work!
Great point! I actually sleep in my truck most of the time. I have a sleeping bag and a curtain so that no one can see inside.
That dot was a dick. I learned about this the same way during a roadside inspection. He just taught me the correct way and let me go. He told me even though people can cheat it that way he can still see all my stuff that there were no big gaps in locations. Basically when you run it that way it still says your location when you change duty status. I think you can change your location but if it’s so far he will probably know it’s not all adding up. Just easier to not. I guess it all depends on the officer. Some are cool and some are not. I guess it could be worse since you didn’t get a ticket. But sucks trying to sleep in that little ass cab
Yea, you’re right. It’s def one of those hit or miss type situations. It could’ve been better, or it could’ve been worse. I def appreciate your insight and feedback. Hopefully you enjoyed the content and joined the family by subscribing.
It’s definitely the Motive formally keep trucking eld system. I received a citation for my device not properly logging but I did an appeal because it’s not my fault if the system fails but I’m attempting to do my job. Still waiting on response.
I was contemplating switching out the device, after watching this video I’m definitely getting rid of it & taking off those damn stickers. Thanks for sharing! Now I know why he stopped me. I couldn’t figure out why because my truck was empty but it was those damn stickers.
FYI: Ignore the ignorant, lonely ass negative Nancy’s, they just want attention, don’t give them what they want they’re not worth a response.
I’m glad I could help. I’ve never had any issues with my ELD malfunctioning. I hate you experienced that. I hope you find the right system for you and I wish you nothing but prosperity in your business!
You have to pay ifta in a box truck? I was told no.
So it depends on the GVW of your vehicle. If you have a non CDL truck (26,000 lbs or less) with 2 axle then you don’t.
My truck has a GVW of 33,000 lbs which means it requires a CLD to operate it, so I have to pay IFTA.
How big is your truck?
I have a 26ft box and have my cdl. So do I need ifta sticker?
It depends on the GVW of your truck. If it’s 26,000 or less then no you don’t have to pay IFTA. It doesn’t matter whether or not you hold a CDL. If the GVW is 26,001 or more then you do need IFTA.
My truck is 26 ft, with a 8 ft x 8 ft opening and 13’ 1” clearance height.
Keep trucking changed it's name to motive, they're usually good,but I'll be honest, it's not working very well. Probably need to find a different eld service.
I’ve been using the ELD for about a year now and I haven’t had any issues thus far.
I need help please. I can login to my account just fine, but how do I get the Blue “LOG” square to appear? I don’t have that so I can’t change my duty status. When I had the Keep Truckin app at my old job it was soo much easier. I’m just lost now and I can’t do any longer runs with my current job without this app working. Any help is appreciated thanks.
Hi, I’m unsure of what you’re talking about. Maybe you can ask your company or contact Motive customer story directly.
KT/Motive still isn't compliant with Split Sleeper regulations.. it continues to show false violations after the first rest period and does not give you hos clocks back in full after taking the Second rest period. Every time I try to tell their support staff in Pakistan about it it goes absolutely nowhere!! ... I highly recommend against buying the keep trucking system it is horrible and their customer service totally sucks!!
I’m sorry to hear you had that experience. I don’t split log often, but I did use it a few weeks back. Thankfully I didn’t have this same experience.
My only issue regarding the rules/exceptions is the 16 hr exception. I had to use it due to a major traffic jam. I was driving at night, it was just past 11 when I activated it so I had until around 1a until my drive time expired with the exception.
As soon as the clock struck 12 I saw 00:00 blinking red at me saying violation. It scared the hell outta me, so I immediately pulled over to see what was going on.
I had to select the 16 hr exception again and it cleared the violation. I just don’t like the fact that it didn’t automatically carry over to the next day.
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING BINGO!! Their software is glitched and not compliant...
⚠️ Motive software is not compliant with HOS law and falsely violates drivers that take qualifying rest periods and not recognizing the pausing of their HOS clocks
Drive legal and you will be good
I always do, that’s the only way I’ve been able to keep a squeaky clean MVR, DAC & PSP report for 14+ years. I appreciate the comment though, stay safe driver!
So what ELD is best?
To be honest I can’t tell you what’s best because I haven’t used them all. Also best is a relative term. What one person thinks is good another person may this is trash.
With that said I do believe Motive formerly KeepTruckin is an amazing ELD. You get some amazing features and a user friendly platform for an affordable price.
What do i have to do to gain my LLc
I did a video on how to start your authority. Feel free to check it out. I cover it a little in that video.
Wait I am confused. I own an expedite business with straight trucks and sprinter vans. If a day cab is stopped and shutdown you can not restart your hours in the truck if you don't have a DOT approved sleeper. It can not be done in the cab of the truck. I know this specifically I have been doing this since 2007 and started with a day cab and was shutdown for it and tried to fight it but the order states it!
I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. I don’t know the full scope of the situation or why exactly you were shit down, so I can’t speak to that to much. Could it have been because the time was logged as Sleeper Birth and not as Off Duty time?
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING Nope per regulations you can't set in a commercial truck off duty for a 10 hour break without a sleeper. Same if you rent a Penske over 10K GVW you have to run a log and if your log shows that you have a 10 hour break on that route you have to provide a hotel receipt to prove it wasn't done in the truck. This was done in Mississippi to one of my drivers.
It’s actually not illegal to sleep in your box truck or hotshot, so long as you log the time as Off Duty and not Sleeper Birth. At the time of recording this video I’d been operating for about 6 months. I got pulled into scale houses several times and on a few occasions given level 3-1 inspections and there was never an issue.
The only time a sleeper birth is required is when you’re running teams and if you’re trying to slip log (8/2). Other than that it doesn’t matter where you sleep as long as it’s logged as Off-Duty.
Think about it from this perspective. If it were illegal to sleep in my truck the DOT officer not only would’ve wrote me citations for the 7 days preceding when I slept in the truck. He also would’ve advised me to catch an Uber to a hotel or would’ve gave me a citation once I attempted to leave after sleeping in the truck.
If you don’t mind could you send me a copy of the citation you received stating your driver needed to shutdown at a hotel. I’d love to cover that on the channel. You can email me at content.grindtime@gmail.com. I definitely appreciate your feedback. Conversations like this helps our industry and community as a whole! Hopefully you subscribed and joined The Grind Gang, if so welcome to the family!
I know an Uber driver that is constantly going to the scales to pick up out of service drivers and brings them to motels. Then they call him for the return trip 10 hours later.
Interesting, feel free to have them reach out me via email. I’d love to speak with them and obtain information regarding these encounters. That’s could be info that’s shared with the greater trucking community.
content.grindtime@gmail.com
So your log didn’t show you was about to violate? It usually warns you doesn’t it!?
So I didn’t have a log violation as in running out of hours or anything like that. I received a violation for not being in the correct mode. Instead of being in ELD mode I was in Electronic Logbook mode.
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING bruh…that’s dumb…must have been because you wasn’t logging it…thank you bro
@@jarellesmith42857:44 the officer explained exactly what happened
@jarellesmith4285 Dude, I've never heard it Put as electronic log book mode ir ELD mode. I just know for a fact that your ELD has to be connected to your truck So when your truck is moving the ELD Does changes status automatically, you have no choice As to when you are on duty driving or not, if the truck is moving the ELD itself has to put you in "on duty driving mode".
If you’re a company driver that’s because your company already has you set to ELD mode. Given that I’m an owner operator I can change the settings. I had it on electronic log book mode by accident. Once it was changed to ELD mode it automatically put me one the drive line once I started moving.
For people who don’t drive more than 150 miles from their start point/terminal and want to use a log (because they’re not required to use one) they can use electronic logbook mode and edit everything themselves. Hopefully I explained it well.
Thanks Sorry
It’s fine, so long as I can pass the info on to someone else! If you enjoyed the content feel free to subscribe. It’s much more where that came from.
Why would he fuck with you because you were in a boxtruck?Tha t doesn't make sense
So box trucks, hotshots and new authorities running semi setups have been targets more over the past 24 months.
It’s been super hot for box trucks and hotshot shots because most of the people operating those equipment types are running non CDL setups. By those individuals most likely not having prior industry experience the likelihood of them getting pulled in and getting a violation is significantly higher.
A lot of these townships thrive off the transportation industry. You can easily get hit with a fine that ranges from $500-$10k.
I cant take a mn seriously while wearing a dog muzzle
And I can’t take an immature clown who doesn’t know how to keep their thoughts and opinions to themselves seriously.
This is a place for information, positivity and prosperity. If this doesn’t sound like the place for you gladly remove yourself, thanks!
Please enough with the music. Didn’t even watch the video because the music was too distracting.
Sorry to hear that. During the editing process we make sure to assign the vocal track as the master and set the music -12 db to -20 db below the master.
On another note I think it would be more distracting to watch a 13 minute video of straight background noise.
There aren’t too many videos from content creators that aren’t gonna have some for of music playing in the background. Moving forward we’ll try to make the music a little more subtle. Thanks for the feedback
You deserve it for working. Stay home,have nothing,be happy
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Bro… what??? 😒
@@Ahjanea you deserve to be fined for working. Do welfare get fined for not working? Welfare good. Worker bad
Make it make since… How would it be better for me to collect welfare when I’m both WILLING and ABLE to work??? There is someone in the country that actually needs it and I’d be taking from them. Thanks, but no thanks.
@@GRINDTIMETRUCKING Welfare dont get fined for being useless but you will get fined for working. If that dont make sense its cause you got a leader. Now tell me 1 thing your leader ever said that made sense??