Who is the MYSTERY VILLAIN in Daredevil: Born Again?
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Daredevil: Born Again shares a title with one of the most bloody and brutal daredevil stories of all time. But how will the MCU adapt the story? Will it be grimdark like the Netflix shows? Or happy-go-lucky like She-Hulk? Or, will it adapt another great Darvevil story--Guardian Devil? In this video we explain how the villain that brought down Spider-Man could set his sights on the Devil of Hell's Kitchen.
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Written by Jack Picone
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Harriet Lengel-Enright, and Brianna McLarty
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Who will be the villain in daredevil Born again? 
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Who do you want to see appear in Daredevil: Born Again?
What about Electra
Punisher and the Defenders…minus IronFist
Why does the video say it was posted 13 minutes ago, but this comment says it was posted 4 days ago? 🤔
Call me crazy but I'd love an appearance from Daredevil.
I like this premise but Then I immedieately dont like Peter / Edith / The Police leaving Mysterio alive. The show will have to do a good job about how he saved himself, or came back to alive while in the ambulance / or cop car.>>> HeyHey, but now it makes more sense; the villian is Born Again, too.
Wouldn't Mysterio have forgotten Peter Parker is Spiderman like everyone else after Dr strange spell?
Probably, but if he died or got sucked into another dimension and wasn't on MCU 616 when the spell went down he would know.
Nah the spell was multiversal I think. But mysterio knows spiderman and he would still hate him.
@@OdinTheGiant No. It's local.
Very interesting. I’ve always thought we would see Mysterio again, this would be an excellent way to pull him back into focus.
I really like this concept a lot instead of the obvious choice but do a villain so differently. I really hope this the way they go with this show.
Matt Murdock is a "really good" lawyer, but why was it so easy for him to get Peter Parker off with no charges? There was no body.
@@rogerroger5171 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Daredevil went after Mysterio's crew and got them to admit to their crimes
It feels like there's an almost 0% chance we'll see Mysterio in DD: Born Again, let alone that he will be the central villain of the show... I wouldn't mind him showing up, I do feel like he was out too soon, but to take over the whole show the way proposed here is not at all appealing.
My hope for Mysterio was that he would actually be dead, but Beck would be "resurrected" by his team. Essentially, they would make it look like Mysterio was alive but it's really just Mysterio's team using illusions to fake his return.
I'm out on this one. Gyllenhaal's Mysterio surviving would erase Peter's whole arc in Far From Home, which is that he finally learns to trust his spider sense and see through the illusions.
They could maybe introduce a copy-cat version of the character, but why? There's so many villains for Marvel to adapt that they don't need to start rehashing dead villains already.
That's true, but think, mysterio coming back gives us back the possibilities, and since Fisk is back and mysterio we can start building a s6 storyline Peter's arc still remains his trust in the sense was buffed way more in no way home since he literally sensed greengoblin take over Osbornes mind
Because it would say his spider sense was faulty! Good point.
Spider-Sense only tells him about danger. If Mystereo gave up on hurting Spider-Man and decided just to get away Spider-Sense wouldn't help with that. Spider-sense doesn't see through illusions other than it's ability to predict danger. For instance, if someone is taking Spider-Man to a surprise party, Spider-Sense doesn't cover that, unless for some reason he's afraid of a party.
More to the point, isn't Mysterio a Sony property?
@@captainjefferies9047 tbh, spider sense is so inconsistent
I like this idea, but I only have one question - is it *legally* possible for Mysterio to appear in a Disney+ original series? The only time we've seen Mysterio in the MCU so far is in a film distributed by Sony. I've heard that Spider Man was supposed to be in the She Hulk series, but Sony said no as it would've looked like they were losing their grip on the IP.
If Mysterio has been in a Spider-man MCU film, which is owned by Disney, I can see that villain in a TV series as one of the main villains in it too. I wouldn't be surprised if they are planning a cameo of Spider-man(Tom Holland) after finding Mysterio after the third movie and at some point teams up with Daredevil to defeat him once and for all with no tricks this time that will stop them.
Tv is weird, if they make his areas animated it should be 100% fine. But LA could be 75% fine
Marvel holds tv rights as long as it's under an hour.
Maybe Mysterio is tied both to the Spiderman and Daredevil rights, like Kingpin
It’s as legally possible as Spider-Man being in captain America civil war.
As always, Doug is brilliant! He knew it was Mysterio all along! Bravo Doug!
I don't know how this version of Mysterio could trick daredevil...
I mean he's a visual trickster, Peter beat him by closing his eyes.
Mystereo is full on Illusion, audio, heat, the works.
@@captainjefferies9047 yes and no, the heat, smell, etc work to tell you what your eyes see is correct. But daredevil would "see" a bunch of flying drones shooting at him and smashing into things. He wouldn't see any of the holograms. His eyes would adequately create the outline of the drones
@@bryceneuberger3460 What you are saying has no basis in reality or the MCU.
@@caitlyncarvalho7637 That is a nonsense word.
@@caitlyncarvalho7637 Bigotry isn't something that is based on facts.
"Guy who's legs don't work can't walk up the stairs" isn't bigotry.
Peter Billingsly's character has the suit and tech after far from home. First a Christmas Story Christmas, next MCU villain 😏😏😏
I think if Mysterio came back, his motivation to attack Daredevil would be because he defended Spider-Man, as well as him being a more accessible challenge.
Mysterio isn't a vengeance related character.
@@captainjefferies9047 well was mysterio a grifter who frames a kid for murder and attempts to murder said kid
and does a psy op on everyone because hes salty over stark technology
@@CT_Taylor Say something relevant. Your borderline illiterate blathering is tedious.
@@captainjefferies9047 Wanna cry?
@@CT_Taylor About your ineptitude? No thanks.
In their first confrontation, DD will be stopping some seeming disaster. He'll sense its fake and foil whatever Becks plan was, but Beck will watch some game film from the drones and figure out DD is blind, which will lead him to knowing DD is Matt. That's act 1
There would be a certain beautiful irony to the idea that the Mysterio from Far From Home did die, but a varient crossed over during No Way Home and got stuck in 616 - essentially the lie that QB-616 told Peter - and no one believes him. In that case, it could be as simple of a story as the Mysterio varient could be from a universe where Daredevil is his primary adversary so he just goes after him as he always does because reasons. It answers the question "how does a guy who mostly relies on special effects get an edge of Daredevil" with "by targeting his friends and family and taking advantage of the fact that this Matt would never think to look for someone he has never met with a grudge against his doppleganger in another universe."
The other thing is that QB-616 knowing that that he was on Earth 616 was a hell of a guess, so it's possible if not likely someone on their team was playing a bigger game. It might have been a clue that QB-616 was being used as a pawn to mess with Spiderman specifically with the goal to manipulate Peter into doing something that would mess with reality or weaken the walls between universes. The next step could be to get Matt to do *something* or use him to get another character to do *something* that unexpectedly backdoor rolls up into the phase-5 saga storyline. It wouldn't take Daredevil out of scope if Matt never finds out the bigger impact of whatever it is that he did - like if the plan is to get the TVA to show up and steal their portal or if there is a McGuffin of some kind that has magical/tech properties that Matt is unaware of etc etc, especially if the reveal is functionally an end of series kicker.
Either way QB claiming to be from "Earth-833" feels like a bridge to make this work. 833 is mostly known for a storyline where Spider-UK leaves his universe to do Spiderverse team-up things but finds out he can't go back because his universe was destroyed by an incursion while he was gone. So playing it for comedy (it genuinely is just a giant coincidence that QB-616's fake story aligns perfectly with QB-833's real story) or drama (there's a level to the game that Matt will never know about) both work really well.
Ryan your theories are always so far out there and interesting. I love the way you and your writers work. Great video and I’m super excited for born again
This is a great idea--hope it happens. I especially agree with the concept of Mysterio's powers matching up against Matt's in an interesting way. I really enjoy when the powers of the villain and hero are different (actually, this is probably why I like seeing hero vs. hero battles so much), and we generally only see that in Spider-Man movies, so I'd love to see the concept branch out.
I totally appreciate your effort! Keep this goin!!
Guardian Devil is my favorite Daredevil story after Born Again so I just want to see it adapted. Born Again was already adapted in Season 3 of the Netflix show, so the title of the new one really confused me.
im so happy i found your channel!! i love listening to you and learning more about marvel!! great job❤
I absolutely love this concept! Jake is an amazing actor and he did such a fantastic job as Mysterio. I feel like they definitely need to bring him back in some way and this makes a lot of sense, so I hope that this is the direction they go in.
Thanks for all the extra Doug! Happy new year be safe
7:10 - I’m not sure whether to be offended or excited that Speedball was brought into this conversation 😂 One of my favorites, and I hope that we see him in the MCU someday, even if it’s just a cameo. I’d love to see a live action New Warriors…one can dream
I have to admit my ignorance because I never read much of DD comics, but now Mysterio makes sense as antagonist.
I would love to see David Tennant play Kilgrave again tbh
Doug carries this whole channel!!! J/k. Keep up the great content. My favorite channel. Thank you.
Damn it Ryan! Now if Mysterio isn't the villain, I'll be disappointed 😂
The robot chicken, m
. night shalamamamamaalam reference was great
Whether Mysterio is the villain or not it makes sense for him to be in the series, even if it's not really him.
Fisk is smart enough to use the persona of Mysterio to muddy the waters of his previous conviction, to "prove" his innocence or at least make people legitimately question his guilt.
It's much easier to confuse than prove so I'm betting that is the direction Fisk is going to take to become mayor of NYC.
I really love this concept, Mysterio is my favorite Marvel villain and I really hope to see him again and as the main villain they can do a lot with the character. I really hope you are correct.
3:07 Did anyone else notice that the yellow/gold on daredevil’s new suit could easily be a reference to his original suit that was yellow red and black
You're joking?
This is a great theory and very plausible; however, I am not sure if they will bring back Mysterio.
But daredevil would be able to “see” through every illusion immediately
I like the concept mostly but I really don't want one of those seasons where the main character takes L's for 17 1/2 episodes and then suddenly wins in the finale. Would much prefer ups and downs, highs and lows, wins and losses etc. Those are a lot more fun to watch.
To give the one blind hero a villain whose power is optic illusion would be cold
That would be fun. I have a slightly different idea for the motive, just, we all doubt the completion of Strange's spell, right? But that this follows Agatha's show and some other things that could break it. And some people who might be exempt anyway (like Wanda).
I have had the idea that Jen does like a one to three episode arc, but that she leaves and is kind of hijacked by the TVA so that we all know she will be part of the big battle (I have this whole Deadpool gets caught by them at the end of his movie and she is his public defender but they both get caught up in the Battleworld). But it could also play into this that Matt doesn't hear from her and thinks she has moved on. It could be the romance angle of whichever Avengers movie they appear in.
Sony wouldn’t allow marvel to use him in a non Spider-Man project anyway, it really fucking suck that Spiderman can’t hangout around other heroes randomly without Sony’s approval while Sony is just there not doing anything with Spidey but with his d-list villains for some reason…
With Matt’s skills of reading heartbeats - how is he going to get tricked by holograms without heartbeats.
They are going to nerf him, so the holograms can happen!
Sound effects? Duh.
Mysterio can replicate a heartbeat.
@@ziletales Mysterio tricks Superheroes with super human senses all the time. He's duped Spider-Man and Wolverine. In his movie he dupes a bunch of aliens with superior tech who are Shapeshifters.
@@captainjefferies9047 If the M.C.U follows through with Mysterio as you describe him, then it will be fun. Honestly, I just want the M.C.U content to take itself more seriously!
After watching this, I totally hope they go this way for Born Again.
The Mike Tyson sound effect was awesome!
everytime i watch your videos i feel like i walked inside a blockbuster that was also partially a comic book store
I know this is random... But following Secret Invasion, id love to see an R rated "Skrull Kill Krew" in the MCU. An underated team that would make a great show/Special.
Que "Thunderbolts"
Or, and stay with me here, Mysterio is dead and a new villain will be introduced...
😂😂 but tbh I think Mysterio as a concept will come back again eventually but the main Mysterio did indeed die unfortunately which is annoying.. marvel has a villain problem
Now that’s just crazy talk
He’s definitely not dead.
I half agree with you. Quentin Beck is dead, but Mysterio is not. After all, Mysterio was a creation of Quentin Beck's group, not only by Quentin Beck, and in the climax of FFH, we could clearly see one from his group copied something into a USB before escaping. This was probably the data used to recreate the video exposed Spider-Man's true identity. But it is also a set up for Mysterio's return later without Quentin Beck.
@@nguyenquoctoan6354 comics had four mysterios
you're telling me Mysterio's about to be beat up by a PG13 daredevil? sign me up lol
I absolutely loved mysterio, and I seriously hope he's not dead and comes back again in any show or movie he was one of the best
This would be amazing
Now u got me thinkin what’s goin to be the punishers reaction to Karen dying
Love this theory. I would become a daredevil fan if they did all of this.
I really miss Mysterio in the MCU, he was actually good at pretending to be a good guy. We need more charismatic villains.
Sounds 🔥🔥
I think the main villain should be the Owl. Hear me out, Leland died end of s1 but said he sent his kids money. What if his son looks for revenge on Fisk, and then Daredevil stopping crime finds out its a plot against Fisk. The moral and emotional dilemma is perfect for the character deciding to help his nemesis
Oh Mysterio illusions can never work on DD
Favorite episode. Plus if they get mepisto (Sacha barron Cohen ) borat to show up. That would be crazy
I can't get enough of ryan making jokes about matt banging jen
Theory of the YEAR!
I don’t know if I like the idea that king pin is a pawn on somebody else board
It’s hilarious that Mystery’s whole spiel is visually messing with his enemies (smoke and mirrors) and Matt would only “see” a guy in a fish bowl
This
I could get behind your theory for the new Daredevil Born Again show. In phase 5 & 6 needs to set up one of these three plot points to end the multi-verse old war.
1. Create conflict between a group of heroes and villains for Battleworld.
2. Two further along the Multiverse, so arc with Kang the conqueror
3. A prelude to the SKRIL invasion of Earth.
I think when we were talking about theories and plot points, one of those three needs to be talked about in the theories because that’s where, in my opinion, all these shows need to leads us to. Along with sprinkling in the seven, which I’m assuming is gonna be the X-Men arc. If you pay attention, the MCU always gives us a taste of the next big “Phase Arc”. Example, Doctor Strange and Ant-man give us a taste of quantum realm in phase 1,2& 3. Doctor Strange introduced us to the multi-verse in the first movie self titled. That was in marvels first major ark. Now it is very very important piece of this arc. That’s why I say that. They’ve already given us a taste of the X-Men arc in Shang-Chi & Ms. Marvel, so far.
I'M ALL IN FOR THIS...AS LONG AS IT'S BRUCE CAMPBELL
I would love to see Richard Fisk (Rose) try to dethrone his father. They as well could introduce the Jester. I would love an accurate Owl instead of what we got in the Netflix series.
He needs to fight bullseye like how they set it up in season 3 of daredevil
A cool idea would be incorporating what punisher says to dd in the Netflix series. How daredevil is one bad day away from being him. Maybe he loses both she hulk and the other girl. Then ultimately daredevil ends up going crazy and being one of kangs right hand man or for secret wars whoever ends up being that main guy, doom, beyonder or whomever.
I like Deborah Ann Woll returning
Don't get me wrong I love this idea. But like Daredevil cannot see. How is this even a possibility? I get Mysterio can do audio illusions which would obviously work, but like Daredevil can sense electromagnetic waves and would be able to tell if it is a hologram correct? Unless they're gonna give Mysterio real magic or something.
This is going to be a setup to MCU sinister six. Kingpin funding the team with Mysterio, Prowler, Hobgoblin, Chameleon, Bullseye. Daredevil and Spider-Man vs the Sinister 6!
I was today years old when i realized foggy used to be a mighty duck. Holy crap i always thought he looked familiar 🤣
EDITH said there were no illusions present when Mysterio died, so illusion tech as a way of explaining Mysterio isn't dead is out. However, we've seen Nick Fury taking a drug that slows the heart rate to simulate death in Winter Soldier. EDITH is very literal and would not have understood the difference between lack of illusions and Mysterio being actually dead. Mysterio is so dependent on the illusion/drone tech that it makes sense he would have a card up his sleeve for a completely different "illusion" as a backup of last resort. This is how they will bring him back because of course they have to bring Mysterio back after only one movie. Being the main antagonist in Born Again would be great! Plus a Peter Parker cameo to help Daredevil understand Mysterio a little better, of course...
Could also be how they allegedly bring in Peter. Peter could help Matt in the finale before leading into SM4 with Kingpin as mayor.
Please!!!! Mysterio needs to come back!!!
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If we get another MCU story with Mysterio, I like the idea that Quentin Beck really is dead, but "Mysterio" is still "alive" because the team working with Beck is still using his image for their own agenda.
Not going to lie that sounds awesome
Cool idea but Mysterio's gonna have to upgrade his tech. Daredevil being blind is gonna be a problem for the whole illusion thing xD
He's basically got spider-sense on all the time, which is the only thing that helped Peter see through the illusions
Imagine you're a producer for this upcoming show and you're all 'crap now I've gotta change it.'
I just want Peter Parker to show up the end and “catch a brick” for Matt
I have long considered Mysterio's survival. While staring at his dead body, Peter asks Edith if it's real. She tells him all holograms are off.
Also, I suspect Gyllenhaal wont come back for smaller TV show.
Holograms aren't the only illusion Mysterio uses and Mysterio had full control of Edith and had every opportunity to change her programming to allow himself an escape rout.
That would be an issue, since here in Brazil Misteryo and DD both have the same voice actor
Is it still not Mysterio when it's his ENTIRE TEAM still working together but without the front man (because dead).
Ryan can yu make a vid on the cap 4 and the man in the ocean rumors we need it plz!!!
I love this theory! Especially about Disney/Marvel adding some psychological darkness versus the violence in the original show. That way it doesn’t feel like a complete 180 from the character we already know and love. However, doesn’t Sony own the rights to Mysterio? If so, it’s not impossible, however, highly unlikely in my opinion that he would show up in Daredevil. If he is alive I feel that Sony may want to save him for a Sinister 6 team up as well.
My theory: The main villain will be William Ginter RIva using his hologram tech to make people think it's Mysterio framing Kingpin.
Cool theory.
Did you really say, *”Peter Tingle”?* TMI dude, TMI. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
They need a much better reason than Daredevil just being a random rebound nemesis, but with the right setup it could work
I want this now. Like all of it. I hope Disney is seein this xD
I’ll really love to see an illusionist clown a blind man.
Hopefully the main antagonist will be Mr. Fear or Bullseye, other villains we might see r Lady Bullseye, Typhoid Mary, Gladiator & Stilt-Man.
I don't recall Mysterio being one of Daredevil's rogues, ever.. .
I genuinely don't understand how Mysterio would be able to fool Daredevil. Mysterio's powers are all about illusions and Daredevil is famously blind. Plus, in the MCU, Mysterio uses drones to create his holograms. Daredevil sees though heightened hearing, like echo location, so he should be able to see through the projections and see the drones. Y'know, 'cause echolocation can't see refracted light?
It's definitely an interesting concept. My main concern is Mysterio's motives, he could go after Matt for helping Spider-Man but not for helping Peter, since he doesn't know who Peter is now, assuming he's alive and not a variant. If he's a variant, that's gonna be a really messy explanation. The ego boost angle, feels loose for a character that they made to be so meticulous. Either way though, with Spider-Man still out there it seems odd for him to JUST go after DD, and not SM as well.
In terms of budget too, while we all know Disney has it, I don't see them forking out Jake G and / or Tom Holland money for just one or two episodes at the end of this 18 part behemoth of a show (which I really hope isn't a mistake). Long seasons of TV went away for a reason, and a lot of it was due to over-stretching plots and budget demands. On a personal note, if we get 18 half hour episodes I might just have to wait until they're all out because that release pattern has been torturous. I hate the way they cut these episodes, it kills all sense of tension for me.
The other thing to consider as well is where does Mysterio fall, in the Sony playpen or the Disney / Marvel one? I couldn't tell you what the hell Sony is planning at this point but if they have further access to Mysterio, I really don't see them just giving Disney another go with him without being more heavily involved in the plot. I mean that Venom crossover was a nearly purposeless bone that was thrown to the fans (yes, it brought the symbiote into the MCU). With Tom Hardy already claiming to be ready to leave the role though, it really felt pretty purposeless. So while I'm sure many conversations are had between KF & AP, I don't think their cooperation is THAT symbiotic (no pun intended).
All this to say, I think it's more likely we're gonna get a villain we haven't seen before. Could be The Rose, which would be very interesting and non-redundant.
TBH, Daredevil initial custom was Gold & Red.
Believe the issues were from 1 to 6.
All most had them in sequence, could get the second issue in good enough condition - for the fair price.
Daredevil #14 is my oldest book. He's in the red costume by that point.
It's not in the best shape, but I did get Stan Lee to scribble his name on the cover!
This sounds awesome... but Kingpin has been confirmed as a co-lead with Matt, meaning he will have even more focus than usual, plus I can't see Jake Gyllenhaal dropping down to a Disney Plus show
It would make sense. I wasn’t convinced that Mysterio died and I would hope that he confesses his crimes so that Spider-Man could be cleared of controversies unless they’re fully committed to the What If scenario of “What if Mysterio won?”
I don't get it, how a vision based villain is supposed to fool the blind guy?
Wouldn't Matt see through any trick Mysterio can pull? He'd know people aren't really there if they're just holograms
This is like mephisto where it's to good to happen. But banner gave himself powers was uber successful and got mad about it always and blonsky isn't Russia at all or a spie and the wrecking crew is on she hulk and not loki.. or what they should call it Agent Tom show
I like the theory but the only problem is that Dare evil can't see mysterious illusions so he will just already sense the drones and stuff
Yeah i thought it was a bit sus when spiderman said" is this real" instead of "is he still alive or dead" and edith said all drones werent protecting, HOWEVER we know that beck and his crew had their OWN drones before they had control over edith
A lot of Mysterios schtick is visual so I’m not sure how that works on tv with Matt. Matt sees sound bouncing off objects, if Mysterio is just manipulating light, there is no substance there for sound to bounce off. Honestly there are other characters I’d rather see go up against Dare Devil, like Ikari, Typhoid Mary, Tombstone and I definitely want a rematch with Bullseye
Gillenhall!
I’m not sure if mysterio will be the the villain but I can see Mister Fear be used he’s basically similar to Batman scarecrow
That's a great idea. But I don't think Mysterio would be involve in a Disney+ series just because he's also a Spider-Man character which is a Sony property. He's in a movie that is distributed by Sony.