HOA Sends inspectors to My House! Karen I'm not HOA Member I Am Owner of Land r/MaliciousCompliance
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- HOA Sends inspectors to My House! Karen I'm not HOA Member I Am Owner of Land r/MaliciousCompliance
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HOA Sends inspectors to My House! Karen I'm not HOA Member I Am Owner of Land r/MaliciousCompliance
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. HOAs should be restricted BY LAW to only engage in neighborhood-requested management of COMMON AREAS. They don't really have a leg to stand on with any demand they make regarding areas NOT in common. Common areas are places like the pool mentioned by the OP -- it's something everyone is supposed to be able to use, so it needs a single authority to make sure it is properly maintained and cleaned. An HOA is not, and never was intended to be, any sort of government or municipal body. They are supposed to be residents, elected or otherwise chosen by their fellow residents, to hire and oversee the work of a professional management company if one is needed, and to otherwise see to the maintenance of all areas held in common for all residents of the community.
If there are condo buildings that have hallways, roofs, garages/parking lots, laundry rooms, storage spaces, etc., then the HOA would have responsibility over those areas, to properly assess and apply assessment monies collected from the residents to maintain those areas. NOTHING ELSE. They should not have any authority whatsoever to try to manage areas NOT IN COMMON, such as personal private property or anything upon it the community at large doesn't get to use. They shouldn't even be able to regulate paint color on the outsides of houses, as the wall the paint is on is not a common area, and the money for purchasing and applying the paint is not drawn from community assessments. Said plainly, if a private homeowner has to pay for the paint, the HOA should have ZERO AUTHORITY to specify what kind or color of paint is applied, or by whom. The whole "it is viewed by everyone, and could affect property values" thing is utter comet gas. Yes, it's viewed by everyone, but not PAID FOR by everyone. The HOA invariably demands that the individual homeowner pay for it. If the HOA demands authority over it, then the Board should assess community funds to pay for it, and supply the labor for its application.
If the land in question -- a private home's front yard -- is not land that the general HOA member can use, then the HOA should have ZERO say in what it is used FOR. That includes restricting gardens, regulating grass length and type, bushes, flowers, and ground cover, or any and all trees where the trunk is entirely on private property. And, not pulling any punches here, the HOA Board is NOT "in charge" of the community. They are first among the community's SERVANTS. Moreover, they volunteered to serve their community! They were not elected to a governmental position. They were allowed to give their time and effort to their neighbors out of the goodness of their hearts, to help reduce the administrative burden of maintaining the common areas. They are not, and never were intended to be, little, petty tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood. (Though some of them DO resemble Denebian Slime-Devils.)
Actual Federal and State legislatures have been unforgivably lax in not reining these little assumptive fiefdoms in, and smacking the overweening HOA Karens with rolled-up newspapers and rubbing their noses in the messes they've made.
I served on the Condo Association Board at the complex I lived in back in the late 80's and early 90's. Most of the people I served with were very nice people, who just wanted to help out their neighbors. But a few of them were larcenous little weasels, who arranged illegal kickback deals and purchased sub-standard repair materials for full price, just so they could get an illegal cut under the table. We tried like heck to get them ousted and prosecuted, but the sweet little blue-haired retiree women kept voting the chief weasel in, because they thought he was a "kind young man" for helping out. Instead, that "kind young man" was robbing them BLIND. I remember the series of "special assessments" levied to pay for new roofs on the condo buildings. They cost a ton of money, but a least a third of the money went where it shouldn't, as the materials actually purchased only cost about 2/3 as much as the proper materials should have cost. What was actually purchased was also installed by people who had very little actual experience with roofs, and a lot of the work was done by persons who, legally speaking, shouldn't have been hired to put together an Ikea bookshelf, much less install a new roof. The result was that the roofs that should have lasted 20 years, with a warranty good for the lifetime of the installation barely lasted 7 years, and was found to have absolutely no warranty at all. The money that should have paid for 13 more years of service and a full warranty just "went missing".
That's the sort of thing that happens when HOA and Condo Associations get to act as if they were a local government, and did whatever they pleased.
I've lived in an HOA without being part of the HOA for over a decade now. This happened because I bought my home in a foreclosure auction, buying it directly from the bank.
When I got the deed and contracts presented to me, I looked them over and asked the people from the bank if the clauses related to the HOA could be removed from the contract, because I didn't want them there.
The bank seemingly didn't care, so they altered the deed and contracts and removed any and all mention of the HOA from them. I guess paying the full amount in cash on the spot makes banks more flexible in these matters.
At this same auction I was buying multiple studio apartments to add to my portfolio as a landlord, so I was there for quite a while trying to get some good deals.
Eventually someone who said they were a representative for the HOA approached me, explaining how they were supposed to buy the house and if I was willing to sell it to them, they'd sell it back to me and all I had to do was cover my side of the costs.
I told them no, because why would I want to be part of an HOA that did nothing for me as the streets and all that jazz were municipal property. So why pay for it. They explained that the HOA was formed to keep up the value of properties in the neighbourhood.
This was when they started to make a scene about how the house should have never been sold to me in the first place.
We got the representative of the bank involved, who said that the HOA had no legal grounds to prevent the bank from selling their property to whomever would buy it and that they could set their own terms in the contract, because it was their property, not the HOAs.
Eventually the HOA rep left angrily, but nothing changed about the legal status of my property. The sale was final, the contract soon to be notarised and that was that.
Fast forward to a few years after me moving in. The neighbours had taken note of my front yard and the HOAs inability to do anything about it. Same when I had a green roof installed, the HOA didn't like that at all.
So when the HOA refused a couple of neighbours who wanted to put a dormer on the bathroom in order to have more space, they came to me. In my country city beautification laws overrule whatever regulations an HOA can put in place.
The neighbours offered to pay for a dormer on my bathroom, so that it would set the standard for the city beautification committee and the HOA wouldn't be able to deny them any more.
Sure, I'll take a free dormer.
When my dormer was being installed the HOA rep showed up again, trying to stop the contractor from building it. The contractor, having received a copy of my construction permit from the city, refused to stop work and the dormer was installed as planned and on schedule.
Putting the HOA in a position where they could legally no longer prevent the same style dormer from being built on other houses. So my neighbours got their dormers.
Fast forward another few years when the HOA was doing roof replacements on the houses that they did have a say in. The city stopped them, because they weren't putting on green roofs, like mine.
Again the neighbours didn't mind because a green roof provides much better insulation over the summer compared to the sun on a flat black bitumen roof.
Last time the HOA came around, it was a new rep. The Karen type. She wanted the trees in my front yard cut down because according to HOA regulations they'd grown too tall. I told her no, and to leave, but she wouldn't. So I called the cops and pressed charges for trespassing.
The HOA then went behind my back to try and get a permit to cut the trees down, so an inspector from the city beautification committee showed up to inspect my yard.
I told them the HOA has nothing to say about my property, because I wasn't part of the HOA. But the inspector told me not to worry as all of the shrubs and trees in my yard are indigenous species so unless the trees posed a threat to public safety they were not to be cut down. I then helpfully pointed out a hedgehog burrow and a colony of a protected species of sparrow in my yard, saying even if they required me to cut things down, I couldn't because I'm not allowed to disturb the nesting site of a protected species.
The city rep agreed that this was the case and added it to their report.
Now the yards that were a concrete desert in years past have all become much more green. And much to the HOAs annoyance, I've since befriended a botanist from the university's botanical garden, who has given me some very helpful pointers on which trees are not only indigenous, but also protected species.
I've now got a wonderfully lush garden with beautiful trees and shurbs that I just let grow wild. So many songbirds in spring and summer. It's glorious. And I've been selling seedlings to my neighbours of these shrubs and trees that are immune to HOA malarkey.
Meanwhile property values in the neighbourhood have more than tripled because of the new green image which is a rarity in a suburb of a near as makes no difference 1 million population metro area.
I can't wait to have HOA Karen arrested again when come summer I'm getting the angled roof replaced with tiles that have solar panels in it. Same for the 70m deep well I'm having put in for a heat pump. The permits have all been approved by the municipality, without anyone filing opposition including the HOA. It's going to be glorious.
Thanks for the second upload RedWheel hope you are well. Please stay safe.🏴😁😷👍. Have a great day and a wonderful weekend ahead everyone
10:00 Another top heavy establishment. I bet Corporate, in their infinite wisdom, also issued detailed orders about the bathrooms and how to keep them clean!
Some people are violently allergic to artificial sweeteners. That mix of lemonade and flavored water was a disaster waiting to happen.
Then they shouldn't drink anything sweet from the dispensary. Just plain water would be suffice.
Well send the inspectors to jail.
Good afternoon everyone and RedWheel 😊
Hope everyone has a great weekend 😊
I found it the last story weird that the city did them the FOIA request they asked for and that the calls to them and inspectors coming "Stopped"
The clerk or the inspector warned the HOA people that the OP was on to them and could file a lawsuit for harassment. I worked as a clerk at a district court and one of the other clerks was a paid spy for local attorneys. She would give a heads up if anyone filed an action against one of their clients.
The story about the drinks probably explains why we always run out of diet Dr. Pepper and never have any more in stock despite it being our most requested drink.
Hope you all have a great weekend.
POWER HORNEY 😅😅😅😅
I don't know about you, but I'm totally stealing that word. Love it!
Last story: Wow, a reverse of a I'm not part of the HOA" story...
*Comment & a Like* ❤
Parking bikes story: Well played OP.
Corporate knows best, at least they know best on how to make fools of themselves.
HOA story: I already knew many HOA's were stupid. I just didn't think they were that stupid.
Good afternoon RW, hope your day has been good! Hope your weekend is fantastic!! Thank you for more stories, enjoyed them all! Catch you in the morning!!!
the best HOA is the one you dont join
1st story is yet another case where OP needed to say right away, to shift manager: "You need to think really REALLY hard about this, I'll wait", then if they give the same instructions, say: "No, keep thinking about it till you get it right". jk
Good evening RW from London Ontario Canada
Last story: Wow, a reverse of an "I'm not part of the HOA" story...
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The end line of " I personally thought it was delicious "
I looked up one of those 6 wheeled cargo bikes. Wild looking!
Oh man! I love the last story! He sure put that commie in her place!!!
Always 2 Karen’s, there are. A master and an apprentice.
A Sith and a Darth
On the last story, great job op, I HATE hoa's.
Not relevant at all: 3 springs ago, I planted like 3 dozen berry bushes along the edge of my front yard and forgot what kind of bushes they were when it started snowing. A few days ago, I come home from work and see like 10 of the neighborhood kids picking black berries and raspberries off my bushes. I didn't really care. Better the kids eat them than birds, squirrels, and raccoons. I just told the kids to wait a few weeks for the berries to ripen a bit more so they'll taste better and to wash them well before eating them.
If their house big enough to get a pool and piss off them by having all the kids coming for free. As well as maybe a pool bar too.
i would have built a low cement wall and iron bars on top of that,around the property.
"spleen tea" sounded so gross 🤣
Great content as always, though I wasn't expecting you to say "power horny" at the end 😂
I would ask how ow got your number
HOA's just suck.
So does usa