The Evolution Of Sombra | Flats Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
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Hearing flats talk about the old overwatch days is like listening to your granddad telling you about his old war stories
omg i remember the first ever owl where you got too choose what team u supported and got a skin for that team and got points depending on how much they won, i chose shangai dragons, they did not win a single round that season.
Haha so true, what a wonderful time.
I chose Dynasty for the colors.
I chose Florida mayhem and we also sucked
@@killerkeks8843same lol that black and gold and gold and white genji skin hits
LMAO i also chose shanghai, it was so sad
i love the new game "Sombra Symulator 2023"
Love when I get flanked by a Sombra when I’m tryna chill in the back line with Ana
if you get hacked and virus she can down you in like 4 bullets so anything short of a tank will die right away, she turned into the new widow maker, the team with the best sombra wins @@ChillBill327
As a Sombra main, I agree
It's like she plays herself now
"Sombra Meihem"
See even though this sombra melts you now quickly. I like this one more because she can’t just run way the fuck away. As a brig player she was never a worry, but at least now I don’t have to counter swap brig every time sombra is played.
you never had to brig in the first place, kiri, ana, moira already fucked her up.
@@ibara8824 again, I’m a brig main. That’s who I would switch to to have an ex game against her. Now I won’t have to at all because any character can deal with her because she can’t just scoot on out
She does go nutty on Somoa. One of the points has a health pack just off the side and if you’re not paying attention she’ll just farm it in and out.
@@markvieyra9950 boop
Moira?
Sombra was also the reason why you had to cap at least 1 tick (33.33%) on the point if the other team didn't cap a tick, since there were times a team would only cap like 5% and you only needed to cap 5.1% to win, which forced someone to always be on point, or you would just lose in pretty much an instant when an invis Sombra touched it.
i always thought the tick system thing existed since day 1 so there was progress for successful/non successful pushes for the point
@@7.65x21mmnope. Sombra could just touch on eichenwald and insta win the match sometimes.
The best part of all of it is the "eh fuck it, just call it stealth"
And like, I don't think it's so much 'you can see the power creep on her entire kit" and more "omfg we really need to actually learn how to design heroes correctly. We need to fix this trash fire"
Bro is just mad to be mad lmfaoooo bum
Virgin Stealth fans vs Chad Thermoptic Camo enjoyers
i remember when the translocator was indesturctable. SO MANY people would shoot at it thinking they could destroy it, and honestly? i don't blame them.
Sombra arg was so sick I remember that fondly and she was so cool when she came out… different times
A BLAST FROM THE PAST
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I seem to remember people hating it at the time, everything was solved quickly and the clues seemed to come for far too long.
I mean nowhere near an ARG, but Mauga is up there in build-up. multiple in-game sprays, a comic introduction, shares features with a talon unit in game, and just recently Somoa which is entirely his map
I thought this was a video about looking back on Sombra, not remembering old OWL players and team comps, lmao.
Right it got annoying pretty fast
I have to disagree with you flats. Original sombra EMP was arguably better than current EMP. Think about it, yes current emp does percentage based damage, but only disables targets for 1.5 seconds, whjich means there is counterplay potential. Original EMP, however, disabled abilities for 8 seconds (if memory serves). AND there was 1 more person on the team (6v6). Which means, you could potentially disable an entire teams abilities for 8 seconds while your team could just walk right up and execute them.
I think it was 5.5 seconds to match the ability lockout of the hack ability. But yeah original EMP was better. Also back then barriers were a lot of stronger and more prevalent so instantly wiping them out was a major plus
Also don’t forget it destroyed shield health so zarya, zen, and sym were free food
I think the skill ceiling of emp in the current itteration is stronger. In a perfect environment (OWL level), 1.5sec is all you need to take out key targets like supports and at the time 40% max hp dmg is going to help with that. If you kill 1 or 2 targets during emp, you win the fight anyways.
and there was a lot more shields
"better" depends on your perspective. in a coordinated teamplay environment, old EMP absolutely destroyed and was why towards the end of OW1 Sombra was almost a must pick for OWL teams.Teams would just farm EMP and the team that didn't have one ready for the next team fight would get crushed. But most people do not play in that kind of environment. Even at the highest ELO in ranked, sombra wasn't played by many people in OW1 because EMP required so much follow-up from your team to really capitalize on. You can watch old videos from Fitzyhere to see just how frequent he'd get flamed for even picking Sombra until he get well known even after her reworks. For the average player, new EMP is "better" simply because it's immediate value that is very easy to follow up on. Less reliant on others. Personally, I think new EMP is less interesting of an ult.
Any OW video essayists wanna talk about how Sigma is the most consistently balanced/unchanged hero in the game?
I swear he came out, got a few tweaks, and then was left alone for years.
yeah no
Just like his lore fr fr
His shield dancing was genuinely the only thing that kept him op. After that got hit, he has always been reasonably decent against most characters.
Tracer was there at the start of the game and got only 1 patch in the entire ow1 history
There was also a time where Sombra could use EMP counter hack a health kit hacked by the enemy Sombra.
11:35 I remember this patch. At that time I was a hardcore genji main and was so pissed when I could no longer just wallclimb away for free.
Yes, they did balance the game around pro play in OW1 so much so that there were multiple complains from player saying that the game was losing the fun just to be balanced for the pro league, Lucio is probably the best example of receiving constant nerfs because of how much he was used in pro league while player base was complaining about it when he wasn't even played that much, this is not been the case in OW2 as much probably because Blizz is focussing less in making OW a Esport.
4:25 she also got 8% ult charge from picking up her own health pack, lol.
"My gondola's useless!"
1:22 I have legitimately not heard this theme in like 4 or possibly more years. I don’t remember last time I heard it.
I remember when owl was streaming and the stream itself had a lot of weird visual bugs and buffered like crazy and chat kept spamming “sombras hacking”
God, I remember every incarnation to Sombra. It's insane how much she was changed..
tbh i wish the would change the damage the emp did but give them vulnerably and make hack lasts longer
On release biotic granade gave 100% heal boost. Also nano had 50% damage boost, 50% damage reduction and 30% speed boost.
I always love these videos where you give a bit of a history lesson on Overwatch 1. I played the first 3 seasons but missed basically everything after. Its so cool to see how different the game was. I'd love to see more content of you talking about OW history!
i love how replays literally show thr game would work perfectly in 3rd person
19:47 Wasn't that titans team the team that popularized GOATs when they were a contenders team?
Man we all need to rent out a bar and watch old OWL Matches
flats just saying “we wont talk about it” when asked about sinatraa is amazing
@@MARAH_animation I forgot which season but he left owl mid season to go play valorant
@@49DillbertThen his skin got yeeted due to abuse allegations.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong I forgot he had a skin
this video went from great to amazing when i heard persona music ngl
is this outro music one of the songs in coffee talk
They need to do what apex does for new characters. You could do a little 5-minute episode
U should watch more akshon esports, hes really good and his video are super interesting
im suprised the nano emp wasnt mentioned removing 50% hp from all enemies effected.
The triple tank ana torb lol or mabye qaud i cant remember
7:35 her nano also use to insta heal to full hp even for 600 hp tanks like roadhog.
Also, i definitely prefer sombra’s original emp as it was a perfect counter to shield health like from sound barrier and the silencing effect lasted a reasonable time.
akshon got some pretty great vids. highly reccomend
Coming from valorant it’s cool to see people I know from the valorant vct coming from overwatch
AKM never living down that blade lmao 💀
Sombra is fun to play now
for kids and morons with poor aim and ethics
Hack was on a 12 second cooldown because it lasted 5 fucking seconds back then lol.
apoganda las luces! 🌎 *Boop.*
Love how Flats said not to mention AKM's genji.
The sombra release games were peak OW for me
I remember Kariv being a god in this Titans X Valiant match
Man at the start of this video I was SUPER nostalgic for OW1 but the further I watched into the video the less nostalgic I am and am glad that we left it behind.
(yes I’m a genji player )
NGL old sombra looked so much better, putting her on a timer makes things fair.
Im all for community puzzles regardless if they solved fast, its fun an interesting to see, don't tell the company they are to easy...please dont make that mistake
WHO REMEMBERS BEING THERE FOR THE FIRST SHANGAI WIN?
I DO, EVERYONE WAS CHEERING
Bruh, bring back the invisible being on a timer, and I'd be completely fine with her, like it would be more skill-based and require good backline picks.
I remember capping objectives invis, ult off health packs, and playing brig as a dps in goats. Ahhh, good times, lmao
As much as goats was, interesting to say the least, Zarya Rein was so much fun, people today will never know
I know mauga has been the most hype cause weve all been hype for him since before sigma
isnt symmetra the most evolved character in OW?
she used to be a damn support
it was shit like how they teased sombra that made me fall in love with this game. really sad to see it end up in the sad state its in now. hopefully it makes a comeback but personally, im doubtful.
22:30 why don't we talk about Sinatraa's pro status?
It feels horrible as a tank, but at least supports are getting murdered now
yes and puts a smile to my face, me a tank main
6:12 forgot about panker and arhan😭
Miss the 6vs6
DPS can SMD, GOATS was dope, actually had to work with your team with mic to come up with someway to get through it. Now it’s just silent on “teammates”
Support Symmetra? Ehehem... DEFENSE Symmetra. 🤣
Also, Defense Bastion, Defense Hanzo, Defense Widowmaker.... Who else? Ha ha ha!
0:49 Anyone remember the sky code? Good times lmao.
EDIT: 2:30 Well, guess I didn’t need to remind anyone.
Im seeing a lot more hogs, sombra, and brigs lately. Might just be me
Been cooking widow
Goats was so funny. I never played dps anyway so it was great lol.
for me sombra always annyoied me when i was hacked and when she could hack while invis it was dumb because doom and hammond they were compleltly counterd by sombra
but right now im okay with her she no longer having a free get out card and not having on command stealth is nice and hack only having 1 second of not being able to sue abiltiys aswell
I FEEL OLD AAAA
Ah, memory lane.
kinda funny how flats talks like none of us have a clue about the old stuff but lets be honest all of us know the old stuff all too well lol
I don’t think anyone mentions or remembers that EMP destroyed players shield HEALTH
Shes op af and thats that lol
why would u go dva in goats? her dm can only eat rein firestrike, zarya grav and second projectile, moira orb, lucio shots. I think the current sombra can work better if if her tp exist for 0.35 second but u can choose when to tp inside the duration and nerf the virus a bit.
It worked because she covered Rein's and Zarya's barrier gaps well enough and she could get the high ground easy, maybe knock enemies down too.
It won’t be the last rework either
Sombra is busted right now. Virus needs to be tuned back a little honestly
there the code in zens transendents
AKM was known for his genji.
Agilities was known for his genji.
They are not the same.
The only way I could defend aginst a sombra as a support is just be kiriko, I suck at every single other support.
And sombras rework is now broken
Who and why don’t we talk about that zarya guy?
Why r u uploading this from season 5? 💀
rip tank mains for a while
not really my main problem anyway it's my supports
@@diamonshade7484 tanks get shredded by sombra while support can’t do their jobs because they’re waiting for sombra to get them
i miss being able to contest the point while invisible. i remember clutching a few games by running around the point invisible and throwing my translocater around to buy enough time for my team to get back. wish we still had old sombra tbh.
Man this tf2 gameplay be looking weird, i didnt know spy had a smg
Shu still plays
Ok but I have a theory Reinhardt is Phara’s dad hear me out their personalities are similar and look at Ana and Reinhardts relationship
She’s seeming to head in a better direction but she’s still too powerful. Her kit is really a design flaw that makes it too difficult to make her good yet fair. A character that can be invisible, has great mobility, can hack your abilities, and is now also extremely powerful is game breaking. It did suck how weak her gun was before but this is too much. I think they need too at the least, make her escape ability show her a tad longer and take the virus amplifier back a bit. At least for now…. She’s so damn annoying….
wait custa is too smart so he cant play? i dont get it
Devs hate Sombra and always have. Any time she has a viable play style they nerf her.
Just wait until people start getting this rework down, many of the players already have, myself included.
Im happy with new sombra quz shes not good against ball anymore quz u can just chase her down
I remember I was one of those goblins who would play Sombra on Total Mayhem and bully the hell out of the opponent by never laying off Hack.
Then Brig released, and I became even more of a goblin in Total Mayhem with that Whipshot-Shield Bash loop to literally push opponents off the map.
Yes, you can crucify me now. I don't play Overwatch anymore.
I don’t care what anybody says goats and brig was the worse they literally added role que because of it
Sombra reworks will continue until they solve the primary problem with her kit. INVISIBILITY. OW is a video game not a music stream. Invisibility is a defacto broken ability. Their refusal to "effectively" deal with "stealth" causes them to nerf her into the ground so that even with stealth shes not a threat but also not effective. Eventually they counter balance, but almost any buff to an invisible hero breaks the hero in the other direction, and so the cycle continues. The lesson here; An invisible hero is something for Manga and Movies, not a video game.
Hell nah.
The problem is hack. Easily so.
The issue with Sombra since the start of OW2 was that she had everything except poke damage. Invis, hack, EMP that nukes when focusing fire, translocator, decent tank shred, and executing backline. It’s insane she’s still like this since the pros literally told the devs she’s busted before the BETA even came out.
If they took away/hard nerfed 2 of them with small compensations, she’d probably be niche but good instead of this “turn off brain” oppressive presence. No hack and translocator, no invis and backline assassin, some combination would probably work.
I wont say theres no way to make stealth balance-able considering spy in tf2 is one of the worst possible classes in high level lobbies, the problem is how little ways for you to bring her out of stealth in the first place.
Spy on tf2 doesn't gain movement speed on stealth, sombra does
Spy on tf2 doesn't have permanent stealth, sombra does
Spy on tf2 has a one shot mechanic but only if hes up close which puts him at risk to his various counters, Sombra doesn't
Spy on tf2 has the most amount of counterplay possible against him. Sombra literally didn't have 1 prior to her rework. You just either had to have god like reaction, or god like senses to shoot her out of hack/stealth without knowing when she'd arrive, where she'll be.
Spy has a get out of jail free card that isn't a guaranteed escape, Sombra had a literal free escape.
So honestly, I won't say you can't balance stealth, I'd say Blizzard is fucking shit at balancing it.
Super weird take but I never fell for the Runaway/Titans hype. They never did well in apex with lunatics hai, lw blue, all the big good teams. They won apex after all those teams and players moved to OWL. The only thing they were good at was goats until they ran into Shock. I do t have hate for them, their story is one for the ages but I never got the runaway hype train.
Fun fact: Flats use to duo with Rascal and terrorize the ladder back in the day. Both with the highest sr by a mile and they managed to hold it for several months. It even got the attention of Blizzard. They were known as Rascal Flatts, and they rode out their victories all night long.
dawg change this thumbnail he so large 😭
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Flats yzean cannot play the World Cup help us please❤
*goats being incredibly oppressive and unfun to play or play against* "this was the best overwatch ever!!"
If supports get to keep all their bs let the dps at least keep sombra
Someone said “Sombra diff” to me last night , oh my bad sorry for having a job this is my first game 😂
First
EMP stronger now than before!?!? Bro I dare you to make a pole to ask what people would want. Old OW1 EMP where cooldowns are off for 5 seconds or current EMP 30% damage and 1 second cool downs off. GOOD LUCK getting 10% of votes for OW2 kiri suzu after 1 second as oppose to 5. You’re out of your mind thinking current EMP is better.
1.5 sec. But yeah the previous was better.
@@apocalypseap absolutely better. I can barely get a kill before kiri suzus half the team. Without damage boost as well virus will get one person after EMP at best hope someone else gets a pick
Blizzard actively trying to make their game even more unfun to play every other week
Cool now give her the 40% dmg buff when an enemy is hacked again and we can get the fun out of this game finallyx
Uh... she'd be definitely OP then, so no lol
I uninstalled the game as soon as the season came out. I am not dealing with this Sombra. No way.
Skill issue
Lmao they made Sombra easier to deal with ...