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The guy in chat who said "New Blizzard CEO coming in" to the guy who said to keep quiet about talent trees isn't wrong...
I think what the guys take was that instead of getting people hyped about something they planned to drop to just not say anything would be better
Upon reflection I worded this pretty poorly. I think my stance now is that Blizzard should have dropped the S6 trailer and also told us about Talent Trees together in their own release (and seperate from starwatch stream). So, yeah, pretty much walking back what I said originally.
@@GallusOW ok that makes a lot more sense
The take that blizzard should have never said anything about PVE and just dropped it was one of the most burnt cooked takes I’ve heard
Bro didn't just burn it he cremated that shit
That wasn't even what he was saying. His take was that if blizzard didn't announce OW2 and talent trees back in 2019 people wouldn't have been as mad
@@ploffsthat's not at all what he was saying
@@TylerXC91 That is in fact what he was saying
@@S0UPIE I didn't hear any of those words come out of his mouth. It was even remotely implied. He was not saying it.
The last guy's point is that Blizzard shouldn't have even hinted at PvE back at that first Blizzcon with Jeff in 2019. His point is that they should have kept their hand hidden instead of spilling it all over the table and then spending the next 4 years playing 52-card-pick-up like they are now.
If you leave a ranked game, count it as a loss. If your duo/stack member leaves, the entire duo/stack gets a loss. Don’t punish me because Timmy on maccas wifi DC’d
exactly, seems like a very simple solution, sure you could say that people could queue snipe but that's kind of unrealistic to be doing consistently
people could just leave stack in the game, so it doesnt really work
You play "mental support" if everyone is yelling at each other and calling each other bad.
The tank and support tip are real, you absolutely get more rewarded for playing for aggressive and looking for damage in support because all of the tools and insane cooldowns the role has; The tank tip is also really good, just play more reactive and less aggro, if the enemy tank pushes or commits to something that's when you start doing shit until then just play conservative and wait
Did that last dude think that season 6 would drop and no one would notice that talents and character progression are gone? He'd make a good PR director!
You misunderstood. He was saying those things should have never been announced to begin with. If we don't know a feature was planned, no one will be upset if the unknown feature is cancelled.
Ok then it was very poorly worded, but yeah they never should have announced all of that back in 2019. The only reason they probably did was because the last Blizzcon was a shitshow thanks to Diablo Immortal.
The only truly awful thing about the comp system is that it refuses to derank any substantial amount. I think I am 20-70 -ish win/loss across all roles this season and the furthest I have dropped on one role is maybe 2 divisions cumulatively. I don't think I have made it to 5 wins a single time but it refuses to pull me down to silver/bronze where I need to be. It's not fun to sit down and play for 3 hours and go 1-7 where the only win was a DC on the other team. I know I'm shit, let me play with the shit players. I'm having to essentially grind losses for weeks just so I can get to matches where I can actually play the video game.
Update: Currently 60-130 and have finally deranked to gold 1/2. It's taken me some 50 hours, but I think I'm finally close to where I should be placed in mid-low gold.
I feel you man 👊
???? I go 5-3 and derank twice
consider one of the following:
Play better bc it sounds like the game believes in you
Play worse and show the game its beliefs were misplaced
I’ve kinda had the opposite for a while. Went 35-2 over 5 placements. Started gold 3 ended gold 3. Masters lobbies but gold rank. I eventually climbed to diamond 1 then went 5-2 then 5-1 and dropped to diamond 5. I still keep getting put into master/gm lobbies and end up with 1-12 or something along those lines and stay at diamond 5. So idk what the matchmaker is smoking
Probably better off just playing quickplay at that point lol
9:51 god I remember Playing defense on the last point of kings row and our whole team just went torb putting our turrets up and spamming armor packs in the middle of the point and winning with that.
you know, back when torb had the armor packs that'd give you 75 temp armor and his ult would upgrade his turret to a lv. 3 tf2 sentry
Omg that just sent me back lmao lv3 turret, symmetra was a support and had 6 turrets, and reaper got "life orbs" when he killed someone. I loved getting a 6 stack of all syms and making the ultimate car wash 😂
This guy was talking about having to play 5 games before you see a new rank change, instead of a game by game rank/SR change. We need that back.
Yep just revert it to SR plus rank like most logical ranking systems
Exactly + they need to start considering individual stats in rank as valorant does
@@mohamdb8273 you really cant, different characters have different jobs within their respective roles in overwatch. If a brig gets less healing than an ana because theyve been protecting them do you punish the brig for that? If a mei doesnt have as many elims as the other dps but their walls and ultimates have been great do you punish her for that? It just doesnt work because people will play kill hungry and not for the team.
@@Aggelaki777 potg farming haha
@@khaledm.1476 lmao imagine
Don't shoot the tank they won't die
Zen: are you sure about that
What can Zen do in OW2? He is the goat of Rocket League and has no playtime of OW2.... Unless he plays ir secretly. But idk if Zen can defeat tanks... Hes mentality is on Rocket League... so....
@@alexandermendoza4890 ....what?
@@alexandermendoza4890 so true
come on man kephri was just the first person who came to my head LOL
I've always said there should be 2 queues for ranked. remove open queue and turn them into solo only queue and team queue.
My supports: we’re not healers we’re supports.
Me: then support me from dying.
I was in no limits with my friends and we all went ball on CP
Then the enemy went all D. Va
I swear, it was like a 20 minute match
13:02 I'm pretty sure what he's saying here is that if the PVE hero mode had never been advertised people would be pretty happy with the content we have. People were begging for an overwatch campaign for years, but because Blizzard promised more at one point, the campaign is no longer enough for people.
exactly
To expand on flats point about slow tank:
The game play has become the first person to die on either team means that team loses the team fight (all things being equal). So playing slow means you're giving them more time to get impatient and mess up. If the tank IS just walking into you uncontested that means the dps isnt applying enough pressure to the tank.
It's counter intuitive because everyone says dont shoot the tank, but a tank without pressure will roll your team.
Edit; after typing this comment flats followed it up with correcting that mentality lol. Dont shoot the tank applies to dive comps mainly. Ignore the horse, kill the supports. If youre not dive then yeah, blow up the tank
that may be true in gold and above but if you think standing around and waiting on your dps to kill anything is going to work for you in bronze/silver youre tripping
I'm a support main a brig main at that and I feel supports are too strong in the wrong places .I don't think brig is broken but the way you play her isn't how you'd think by looking at her . She looks like she should always be in the middle of the fight brawling but nope everybody gets mad if we do that so we sit back with the other support and just have inspire up .I think almost all of the supports never a soft to hard rework cause is almost as fun as tank right now.
I agree. Supports are pretty busted in a lot of situations. Bap and Kiri can save you from certain death and are a scary 1v1, ana and zen can bully the tank with discord, anti, and sleep to the point they can't play, brig can flip a fight with an instant armor buff and stun, mercy can turn an even dps match up into favoring her DPS in pretty much every situation and rez. Sound barrier had insane instant shields, boop can be punishing and he has really good unrestricted mobility. Supports are really strong when you understand how to play them and I don't really think a lot of the abilities are fair or fun to play against
You are the bain of my existence. But in a good way
@@kibi_112I like how you didn't even bother talking about LW lol
As a brig main right now or maybe in general, I find that doing a bit of swinging and a bit of hanging tends to balance the damage and healing stat, while delivering a likable efficiency on the team. For example, if you can get away with free damage or maybe even a kill, you should definitely do it so long as you can heal your teammates and get away without dying.
@@julioichayo1063 he's ass lmao. Pull and platform can be useful but he's outdone by pretty much every support. He's better off using platform mostly for himself and his pull can troll hard. He's strong imo except in very specific situations so I don't find him important to mention. A flanker has a better chance killing a LW than a kiriko spamming at head level with suzu
“Slip it in there and hope they don’t notice…” lmao 🤣
"Blizz shouldn't have said anything about the PvE changes."
that's a great idea!
for the short-term. afterwards, when it actually comes out and people realize they've been 90% lied to...
Didn't know bap heals more with direct impact and I have been playing since season 1 lol
Did not know about Bap! Thank you flats for being a great teacher~ we learn alot from your videos
Honestly had no idea baps alt fire healed more on direct hits but it makes sense. I'll start doing that now.
10:40 another reason why this bot glitched through the wall:
This particular wall is bugged. You cant make a walljump with hamond to do a slam as exampel.
"my teamates are the reason im bronze" proceeds to healbot the dced rien instead of actually making an impact on the game
That last clip made my day XD
That person in chat is right on the money. If "my team is the reason I'm stuck." Then, by that logic, you're the reason your team is stuck in [insert rank here].
I love these videos keep up the amazing roasting 😂😂😂
That Bap was legit doing the same thing as the DCd Rein XD
Flats 2023
2:50 "Bap's healing does less damage when.."
That support tip is honestly true about maining damage, that’s why I’ve mained Moira since ow2 release, I always use orb heals and always use her left click, sometimes I push their support and tp out, most of the time it works, I’ve killed the whole team 2 times in one game by myself just with Moira alone. I pretty much only use her damage orb when they’re in buildings or I throw it around a corner. Or for a tank mitigating, because it goes through the shield. Moira tips for the day 🕺
I just learnt that tip just by playing Zen and just completely kicking the shit out of my enemies. It was glorious.
overwatch needs to get into contact with scrubdaddys pr department they release the most ridiculous but unironically entertaining promo material ever
The dumpster fire that would’ve came from Blizzard just staying quiet on PvE would’ve been insane. What a bad take lmao
Yeah they were going to have to say that skill tree pve was canceled sooner or later and if they waited till the story mode came out it would have been way worse
I think the easiest solution to the "SR forgiveness," not losing rating when some one leaves. I totally get Flats' take, and the people who want it. Why don't we just make it so only the leaver and whomever they're grouped with lose SR. That way you're not negatively affected by leavers unless you're playing with them and dodgers can't get cheap boosts. Both ends win
If I remember correctly flats said something about teams who would blame 1 person, so they leave so the rest won't lose SR.
@@Rukatu2137ok and the person that leaves gets time out increased and can’t keep leaving, I don’t understand how that will be an issue maybe one or twice until it became high time outs
@@GetGoodSweetie but you don't get the same teammates every game, if you had 3 bad tanks in a row, and everyone will leave so you won't lose SR you will have advantage, and they will just have short timeout bcs that wasn't their game/day
@@Rukatu2137 if you make the penalty really big after 3 times this won’t be an issue, this is how apex does it and no one leaves. Make it reset per week and not per day. Anything will be better in my opinion.
You also lose the equivalent to SR x double by leaving
@@GetGoodSweetie you got a point, but it only slow down this kind of people who I mentioned before. Imo they should give max 5 leaves from ranked per season (with penalty still, don't worry) and make matchmaking better
This dude really just said "all the hard work we do" about playing a video game. 😂
This dude is the “Well Acshually 🤓" meme, but with the discord mod build.
I would 100% prefer to be told what is and isn't coming to a game then there just be radio silence.
Nobody:
Flats: *Unironically*
That first take, all the people in chat saying supp or dps when they're literally watching Flats of all people.
You can win with a bad dps, you can win with a bad support, but a bad tank is an autoloss.
on the topic of the first vid, you may not be the best tank but you are certainly one of the more entertaining ones to watch.
Flat's explaination on how to properly play tank reminds me of how you play League of Legends... LOL
Seeing Ram on Volskaya looks so cursed
If they did what that guy said to do and just dropped the PVE I would've been way double livid they held out this long and didnt tell us before the patch
When you queue into a GM lobby and your team is all running platinum/diamond challenger titles
The fact that a top 500 player also cant keep track of how often support interactions change speaks volumes.
On overwatch 1 i was plat/ diamond. Ow2 season 2 i hit silver on all roles, gold on season 3 and have finally made it back to high plat this season on everything except the counterswap minigame heros 😂
In the new prop hunt game mode WHY CAN I FLOAT IN A TREE Ive honestly been abusing the mechanic for free prop wins
you might be the best but your the best tank in my heart flats keep charging in my guy
Easy answer to the rank loss when someone leaves is if you queue together and one of you leaves the other still gets rank loss
1:34 even if this really was a 'valid' example, it's still a case of "here's one specific moment that goes against that. anyway, you're wrong now because of this." this is like, 10 seconds of a match being used to say "it is always my teams fault I'm stuck at the lowest possible rank!"
Tell me why I didn't know bap healing did more on hitting the target
😅
the reason for the wall thing is knockback+your s key i was playing ana into a lucio and he knocked me through the way when i was on like 25 hp and saved my life lol
If OW added a solo/duo ladder or made that the ranked ladder I would probably play comp and then do like League and have a flex/stacked queue on the side.
13:57 "just slip it in there and hope they don't notice? Like...ew"
tbh just have something like league, solo/duo, and then Flex (solo,duo,Trio,fullstack)
The bastion pick reminds me of OW 1 season zero 6 torb defense on 2cp
Okay about the rank not forgiving leaving. They could just do leave forgiveness for solo ques maybe?
Nah rank inflation goes crazy, I was low plat tank in OW1 and now I’m master, I have not gotten better
my man geezyclaps made it in!!!
Am I the only oldie here remembering 5 monkey 1 lucio comp?
I feel like I get the guy who was talking about not telling us about Overwatch 2. If they had phrased it simply as making some serious quality of life changes and adding PvE, I doubt the disappointment would've been as big compared to them revealing everything they wanted to add before barely implementing any of it.
i’m unaware of ow league people so when i heard Kephri my slow ass brain went to Smite Kephri 😂😂
so big dps, regular dps, and lite dps now lol. I like it
if anything they should've probably told us SOONER, like as soon as they knew they weren't gonna do it?? why lie to us especially about something we'll have to pay for?
Not me in bronze not knowing that hitting people with bad Heals did more
My biggest gripe with the new rank icons is that the higher tiers AREN'T SHINY!!! I'm so glad I hit diamond in OW1 so I could at least open my profile and see that shiny badge, or enter a game and see everyone with shiny badges. The new icons are all dull and GM AND PLAT LOOK ALMOST THE SAME.
I was playing comp and played in a plat 3 lobby as an unranked player
my only complaint is that console metal ranks has way to many people making it super hard to climb unless you get really lucky and there has to be some way to help save me from games with leavers or disconnections from teammates mid game
@10:28 The guy on the video (not Flats) says secret,but the subs say lie. Anyone else noticed this? XD
8:51 I feel like if your supports have to be constantly healing, you’re bad. You’re not using cover, you’re out of position, you’re trying to flank & duel but you’re getting diff’d.
Otherwise, your whole team is getting rolled.
just track who is on a team with others and punish the leavers in the team? punish leaver harshest, punish teammates as well. you can check to see if they were grouped on entering.
An easy fix to boosting with a smurf duo leaving in a losing game is to make people in a group with the leaver still lose SR
bro i would say flats, no cap. I just dont know other tank players lol
12:05 i think he's saying that the pr team should not have said anything about stuff they aren't sure they can deliver.
I’m sorry it heals MORE if you hit the target on bap
Unfortunately sometimes that’s not from DCing… but lol @ his aim
i was in gold 3, went 5-0, de-ranked to silver 1, went 5-2, ranked up to gold 5
I'm ngl, I didn't know bap did more healing when he directly hit someone, granted, I haven't played actively since 2018, but y'know.
Bro, the quick play matchmaking is still messed up. I was playing with a friend (we both high gold to mid plat across our roles in comp). Somehow we got a Moira who JUST INSTALLED THE GAME. Litterally didn't understand they could move for most the game while using abilities and attacks and also tried to suck and heal people from behind walls and 5 meters away. In the same match the enemy team had 1 masters player and 1 grandmaster player. Wtf.
4:36 "the matchmaking system is rly ****ing good rn" me getting top500's as a diamond 1 - masters 5 player
I think the guy was saying that they should of never announced the skill trees not say nothing about removing them
My friends very first comp game was against diamonds. He doesn't even play support and he got ranked in plat 5. Does playing your first 50 unranked games increases your mmr
Rank inflation is still an issue,so many times ive clicked on someones profile who just seemed lost the whole game and they have about 6 wins total with only this season and somehow got placed diamond,like im sure they'll drop but how many games do they have to ruin before that happens
5:23 thank you for getting that person off the screen. Ew.
Edit: nvm you brought it back.
Matchmaking isn't the best but it's so much better than it was, but Ive had games where I have destroyed the people on the other team in our role and I've had much more games where they do the same. At times it feels very much decided when we walk out of spawn.
13:46 The point this guy was trying to make is that if Blizzard hadn't announced talent trees and other features and instead _just_ announced PvE, while not revealing specific features that could be removed at a later point, people wouldn't be as mad about the current PvE situation because there would've been fewer/lower expectations.
Flats, can u please show us the mercy f22 raptor spot in route 66. As a mercy main, I need t seeee
I do think you’re the best tank btw Flats 👌🏾👌🏾
10:47 triple A game made by one of the biggest gaming companies in the world btw
Overwatch players when their RANKED system feels like how a RANKED system is supposed to feel : 🤢
Flats is the king of tanks ❤
No hes saying dont hype up PvE and just take the alligations
Don’t tell to not shoot anyone if I’m playin junkrat. Shields run scared from me
UH COUNTRYYY MAAAHHHLL
What bugs me is that they knew before OW2 even launched that PvE wasn't gonna happen, yet they led us to believe that's what OW2 was supposed to be about. We got jebaited.
Matchmaking might be okay out of metal ranks, but down here it's miserable.
the guy saying they shouldn't have talking about PVE skilltrees wasn't saying they shouldn't have said they were dropping it but not to announce it in the first place to get our hopes up for nothing
funniest tank player is flats change my mind
9:44 Cant find it, does it have a specific name? I'm searching "overwatch 2016 6 man diva stall bastion hanamura bastion hold"