I made an alt account and after quick play Mmr on my third placement match after going 1-1 I got in a rlly good with like plenty of names everyone in t500 knows
To me it just sounds like blizzard took a look at how horrible this system works on apex legends, and said. Yeah, we want our matches to feel like sh*t here too
When flats finally quits the dying overwatch his channel will grow massively. He is talented, funny and has a great personality. And his content would reach a bigger audience when he stops clinging on to overwatch
Also, for the life of a support main clip, when the Ram left the streamer's LOS, the enemy popped Kitsune Rush, so that might've been a reason as to why the tank exploded so fast with every single player on the enemy team looked at the friendly Ramattra.
@@Chirobs_art sure, Ramattra wasn’t in tank mode, 400 squishy health means instant dead against bastion. But it makes sense that this tank died here due to poor positioning, and the fact that he was one v three with a kitsune against him.
10:57 As a more casual overwatch player, the new system has made my queue anxiety FAR WORSE. The old system allowed me to know where I was, now its just a mystery. I worry about getting my 5 wins just to go down. IMO the issue with the system isnt the fact that you need to win 5 games to see your rank, its the fact that your losses are not shown. If the system showed your losses in a similar card system to your wins, it could be far better. Seeing my wins layed out in a card system with the map the heros I played reminds me of the game, and how I may have played particularly well that game. I remember my average win, because its shown to me. I DONT remember my average losses. The system makes me feel better than I am, just to derank me after a completely reasonable 5-5. The wins feel more valuable because theyre placed on a pedestal when in reality, they arent. My suggestion would be to make it 5 total games, similar to the overwatch 1 placements. Show my losses highlighted in red, and my wins highlighted in green. That way when I preform poorly it is shown in my cards.
I hate the fact that I won 5 games in masters/diamond lobbies with zero losses but it doesn't put me there lol. I was high masters and crept just into GM in ow1, and climbing to that pt is no issue now, but if you have me kicking masters ass, put me there from the start
great idea. i’m honestly confused as to why that isn’t what they went with. 5 wins for update and 15 damn losses for update is already very lopsided. honestly, i think they should make it a 3 game system independent of w/l. that way, you still have the number anxiety being eliminated, but the card is smaller, so that it doesn’t feel like your previous games will loom over you for the next rank update. the worst anxiety you can get is “oh, i lost 2 games in a row, hopefully i can turn this last one around and not derank”
fun fact that is almost exactly how placements in ow1 was shown lol tho not really with map&heros played and only after a match it was briefly shown but still you saw losses as red wins as green and ties as yellow shown as a bar that filled up after each game
the other day i played with a mercy/moira ho complained that the dps were letting us supports die, but then threw a tantrum and just went on a sightseeing tour of the map, instead of trying anything so i was solo support. how is that gonna win the fight any better!?? anyway by the time i watched it back i played to many games to go back and report for sabotage
@@darcidious99 that tank was dumb as shit but i was talking about you homie. Don't throw games and ruin the rest of your teammate's game because one guy is being stupid. Just mute and play the game
Yea the private profile is a solution to an overwatch problem where people would constantly profile check to bully someone onto a hero. It was especially an issue before the role queue was implemented. I remember back in overwatch 1 when I originally started playing I just filled a lot. I’d let the team pick then id fill whatever was missing just so that I could have a decent game. The problem was my season profiles would make me look like some support main when in reality support was my worst role. So if I’d join a match and pick tank or dps (especially dps), the team would troll and we would have 5 dps…. Ironically I was low plat at best on support but my no-switch alt was around mid masters on dps. So by the very merit of griefing because “our support is going dps” my team would be inadvertently throwing whenever I attempted to go on my stronger roles. Private profiles helped tone down that specific issue because you could no longer profile stalk people to justify toxic behaviour or your desire to sit on dps all game long even when you did poorly.
i always find it funny the ranked discussions because I'm a (somewhat) decent apex player, I grind ranks etc and I play overwatch when I want to wind down. yes, ironically unranked overwatch is my relaxation game. I never touched ranked, but I wouldn't say I'm a casual because I play it every day, but even for me flats' point is very sound. I had to private my profile because the sherlock holmes would get mad if I didn't pocket them when I was playing support
You can blame the Ramattra for dying. His positioning is horrible as he left himself to a 1v5 and seems to have used all his cooldowns. He's also staring down a BASTION in a KIRKO ULT. I understand the point flats wants to make but he looks ridiculous when he forces it down your throat lol and this is why there are people who dislike him cause he seems like a narcissist sometimes.
Yet you dont say anything about the anas positioning? He was up the rams ass. Ram died instantly, there was no way he would get out of there in time. Even if perfect cooldown cycling theres about a second of downtime just due to his cooldown times. And that one second was enough to melt him.
@Xshot12 Ana was clearly away from ram when he died as she smartly fell back but lost LOS because ram didn't. Look it's not hard to see here flats is wrong so don't die hard protect him because I didn't say he isn't ever right or not good for the community.
I don't know how well it would work but I think a fun concept for comp were both teams get 2 characters to ban for the match where neither team is able to choose that character like if you want to run a rein comp so ban Bastion. I think it'd be interesting to see what characters no one wants to play against
this would suck a lot for one tricks and would be hard to implement practically. What if everyone on the team chose different heroes, or what if consistantly everybody constantly banned certain heroes, say youre a bastion or sombra one trick but every game youre banned from your main, youre just gonna de-rank, not be having fun and likely quit.
@isaacsimpson8098 I'm saying that as a widow one trick. Doesn't need to be the main competitive Playlist just try it for a seasonal one but it could help show what needs nerfs when it's always banned
I've though about this and idk if it would work. People would just ban whatever is currently the OP hero, and I dont think the solution to balancing the game is to just disable heroes
@swanletsecondchannel8533 the only thing that gives me faith in it is that it works in every other game quite well. Heroes of the storm had it. I believe league of legends has it. I haven't played in a while. They worked flawlessly had I never heard any issues about it
For the preferred heros idea, I would pick 3 heroes that I don't play so the enemy thinks I'm like a rein main then they pick orisa when I would pick like winston.
@@Yea___ you could see the total hours of all characters, their stats, etc... Unless you had many accounts, which only really happened on console due to game sharing, it was fairly reliable.
The support experience I feel as a Lifeweaver main is either 1 of 2 things. Pull ally at low hp and they get pissed off because they were about to kill the enemy, or don’t pull ally at low hp because they are fighting and they die and get pissy that you DIDN’T pull. It’s one of those things where you see an ally at low hp you pull and somehow it’s always your fault and you can never get it right even though they have 1 bar of hp
I've never got mad for not being pulled, only for being pulled, it has a long cool down, just use it in an emergency and look at what your teammate is doing before you pull
They need to add an option for private profiles to allow or disallow people from seeing certain things in your profile. Cause I'm fine with people going to my profile cause they wanna see what I play, but the people who desperately search through people's profiles to be toxic as hell made me lose any ability to want to let people see my stats at all. If I could make it so they could only see my play times on heroes then that would be great.
sounds good but it wont fix any of the problems he mentioned like if its a mercy meta and you get 2 healers who dont play her its not gonna stop people from trying to bully them or just saying ggs and throwing meta slaves with stay that way
@@knightsky4438 but they will be bullied into that regardless of whether you can see their profile or not. He was suggesting preferred hero picks as a solution to the private profile problem. your example didn't go with your point. in fact is was an entirely different scenario than what flats had talked about.
@@mentarium yes they would get bullied regardless which is my point but if you think thats its a completely different scenerio then why did he bring up being bullied into playing a hero you dont play as an example like having preferred heroes will change it i dont know what you heard or read but its not about the scenerio its about how his idea wont change anything having to do with the examples and scenarios that he used LUL
@@knightsky4438 his point was for when you had a hero you don't play as your most played hero because you were filling or something for that season. you were talking about forcing people who didn't play mercy into playing mercy for the meta, not forcing someone to play their most played for the season even if they didn't want to. yelling at someone to play meta is way different than basing purely off profile.
@@mentarium oh yes bullying someone into playing a hero you don't play when they can see your hours is way different than bullying them into playing a hero they don't play just because now we can see what heroes they prefer LUL im stuck on the fact that you think those are so vastly different that you really repeated what he said like it automatically changes what I said which is that it won't change players from bully randos into playing heroes that you don't play with his master idea to reduce bullying LMAO
A solution to cards I never hear people talk about is cards resetting every 24 hours. If you go on a win streak you get all the benefits, if you get on a loss streak and put the game down you take the rank update overnight and then wake up the next day to a fresh start. I think that's a good compromise tbh
I mean kiriko doesn't even counter anti if you're a good enough ana player and get a little lucky. Suzu is on cool down a few seconds longer than anti, so if you use your anti nade and kiriko cleanses it you're guaranteed to get max value from your next nade if you use it straight away since she does get suzu back until the anti has almost expired anyways.
I like the idea of setting your preferred character, but people will still find a way to complain about it and say something like “WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING YOUR MAIN???” As opposed to them only playing their fav and being yelled at for one tricking.
Here's an interesting idea: would OW2 be better off if healing numbers were lowered, or if DPS numbers were lowered? *edit: I mean as a priority wise. Both are important and should be does together, but for a hypothetical sake, I ask which one should take priority.
You would have to do both. If damage got lowered and not healing, nothing would die. And if healing got lowered and not damage, everything would explode instantly.
Overall, you have to lower both for the game to function. But considering that the general way the game is headed is "everyone has to be able to 2 shot 200hp heros" I think DPS is the issue. Mainly, DPS on "support" heros. Ana was the first support (aside from Zen) that was capable of challenging a few DPS. She could 3 shot, but her shots take so much time that it wasn't an issue. Now you have Bap, Kiri, Illari etc who just dink you twice before you can blink and win the fight off it.
Change the way healing is done and lower damage. You could still have the same healing output, but if you spread it out (less instaheal, more healing over time) it would give people the chance to kill someone without support feeling like a losing battle. They also need to stop making DPS support. Illari feels like the dev team wanted to make a DPS but were locked into making a support because promises. We need more supports that support the team, not just DPS with afk healing.
13:18 This happened to me in the early days of Overwatch. I had to often fill for main tank which made Orisa my most played hero of that current season. One game i picked Junkrat (my most played hero ever) and my teammate flamed me for not going Orisa because he only looked at my playtime for current season and not total playtime. I told him ive played Junkrat a 100 hours more than i played Orisa and he lost his shit
I never have this problem. I have 500 hours on Brig, I usually play Brig in comp, but people still insist I play Mercy or Ana, of whom I have maybe a grand total of 20 hours combined and who I suck at.
@@zsm3985 My movement on Mercy is awkward. I have all the right settings, but it's like it won't pick up my button inputs and when it does, it glitches out and will fling me into the ground or I get caught on a wall. Apparently these are common Mercy bugs that I tend to just get a lot. Besides, there's no point in me boosting a Soldier who is missing 90% of their shots.
Overwatch is my main game and I used to be a hardcore player, but I'm more of a casual player now BECAUSE of the card system. I have general anxiety when it comes to competing, and yes I would get anxious when queuing for comp games and ranking down, but I pushed through it so I could climb and say I was good at the game I loved. Not knowing where I am after one game would kill my drive to climb and all that was left was the anxiety. And even though I was actually climbing, I didn't feel satisfied because I wouldn't know until 5 wins. To me though, it wasn't just 5 wins. It could range from 6 (because I have never gone on a win streak higher than 3 in my comp games) to 15 games and not knowing when I would get my wins made me even more anxious. So I just quit comp entirely.
Fun story about private profiles: I had mine friends only because whatever. But when hero progression came out, i made it public because i wanted to show off the shiny new badges i was earning. It took only 48 hours (played both days) and i had nearly every other game i played where someone bitched about something on my profile ("dogshit cause you're [rank]", "my choice of heroes was shit", "peaked" cause i don't play that much comp, etc) Aaaand now it's back to private. 🤐 People being garbage humans is why private profiles exist.
I’m Overwatch 1, the requirement to play Competitive mode was level 25, meaning that account had NEVER played competitive in Overwatch 1 if it was only level 15.
The only that needs a a set change for comp is the win loss system and a loss penalty fee if any player decides to rage quit, thats the annoying thing where you get a warning and have 2 min to play before they allow you to leave and regardless you'd still get a Loss.
Hot take...the focus on turning this game into some hc competitive FPS was a mistake. The reason why OW was such a phenomenon early on was because it was a casual shooter that had different characters to fit every kind of FPS playstyle. Probably too late to reverse course now though as the casuals have been pushed away. Most casual players don't care about the top players and don't have any hopes of getting remotely that good. Just like dudes playing their in their local rec soccer leagues don't have any remote dreams of becoming the next Messi. They don't have the innate skills nor are willing to devote that much of their lives to doing that. They just play for some fun.
I was a public profile Chad for like 6 years until my friend noticed that the enemy team kept rolling out on rein counters every game when he played with me. He told me to go private and now I almost never see orisa lmao
10:00 that is so true, no matter how much healing you gave to the tank, when you just look away for one second, instantly dead, not gonna blame the tank thou cause tank tanking, but still, that is actually really painful to just get exploded like in one second 😂 That is okie if everyone is okie, but if somebody just decide to scream and blame the support when we just keep heal botting sometimes especially when you in critical health, it's really painful :'3
As a casual player myself who’s played since 2017-2018 I only played rank 2 times and in overwatch 2 i only play ranked to troll with whacky picks like battle mercy or wingless pharah
Flats' private profile thing would work if it also showed stats for the three perferred heroes, and ofc have three slots for each role, so the team could see which hero theyre like. The best on, kinda??? And stuff like that
so with the casual ranked system, the cards take ages to fill, especially if you queue all 3 like i tend to do, it will take an actual day or 2 to rank in just one role
Yeah whenever I looked for groups to play comp, they always forced me to play Rein on tank because it was my most played. Not because they wanted to do a brawl comp. Didn't want me swapping according to what we were facing neither.
I’ve never had a private profile but I don’t understand why people feel the need to see each other’s profiles. It’s not like it actually helps anyone and your 100% lying if you say that you use it for coordinating. Edit: Even with Flats’ solution where he says “If you don’t want to put three, just put one.” that’s the same thing as just picking the hero you want.
7:29 a dps complaint that I was dying a lot once, the sups told him to shut the fuck up and do his job and kill people so that I could live and do my job... 😅
i’ve said this before but i’ll say it again: as a casual who wants to grind to improve in comp, the card system is _literally_ the reason i don’t play it. it doesn’t feel good losing and then feeling like “welp, i’m screwed for the next 5 games at the *minimum*” but since i have nothing on the line, it’s much easier for me to just go back to qp than to keep playing on a losing card
I had a rein yesterday that I healed him to full for him to hit half health as soon as I reloaded so a naded for him to drop to crit. So I nanoed the tank with the nade boost to full for him to die 4 seconds later. We won that fight but idk how I'm suppose to keep him from dying. The best we are given as supports is keep the tank alive long enough for dps to kill everything.
2:29 no, I made a fresh account and I had karQ in my 2nd or 3rd ever game (I kinda forgot which one, but I got a video of it somewhere) Currently in the process of researching ranks further.
I got a dps player in my diamond 3 lobby one game who has only ever played 10 games of games in the entire of playing the game and it was no surprise when they went 0-12. That guy talking about what support to play in what rank completely glossed over the fact that as you go higher up the skill tree players have better mechanics so heroes like baptiste or illari get more value since these players can actually hit shots. I've never played support and was that stressed out, support is easy so I just vibe Private profiles solely exist for smurfs to hide behind now ive never seen a functional purpose for it
I don’t get why Flats keeps saying Mercy is undoubtably the most popular hero in the game when Ana has the highest pick rate in ranked and competitive from T500-Silver.
dude suggesting moira for bronze to gold and listing everything except the most obvious reason which is the aim crutch to overcome the lack of mechanical skill
I will admit as somebody who is scared of comp, the new comp system makes me less anxious. Still don’t play much comp but Flats is definitely right about the new system being for casuals
5 comp games and he's in a lobby with someone who is Rank 16 on EU ladder. That's genuinely insane.
They are just that good 🗿
That was just that competitive season, and it doesn’t take QP Mr into account
I made an alt account and after quick play Mmr on my third placement match after going 1-1 I got in a rlly good with like plenty of names everyone in t500 knows
To me it just sounds like blizzard took a look at how horrible this system works on apex legends, and said.
Yeah, we want our matches to feel like sh*t here too
EOMM. the guy was supposed to lose. To optimize engagement
I could watch this guy reacting to TikTok‘s for like years and not get bored
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When flats finally quits the dying overwatch his channel will grow massively. He is talented, funny and has a great personality. And his content would reach a bigger audience when he stops clinging on to overwatch
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Also, for the life of a support main clip, when the Ram left the streamer's LOS, the enemy popped Kitsune Rush, so that might've been a reason as to why the tank exploded so fast with every single player on the enemy team looked at the friendly Ramattra.
Yeah, he should’ve exploded there. That’s not a good case for the tank problem rn
@@inherentlyflawedi mean still we won’t sit here and act that if bastion was in turret form the same thing wouldn’t happen lmao
@@Chirobs_art sure, Ramattra wasn’t in tank mode, 400 squishy health means instant dead against bastion. But it makes sense that this tank died here due to poor positioning, and the fact that he was one v three with a kitsune against him.
10:57 As a more casual overwatch player, the new system has made my queue anxiety FAR WORSE. The old system allowed me to know where I was, now its just a mystery. I worry about getting my 5 wins just to go down.
IMO the issue with the system isnt the fact that you need to win 5 games to see your rank, its the fact that your losses are not shown. If the system showed your losses in a similar card system to your wins, it could be far better. Seeing my wins layed out in a card system with the map the heros I played reminds me of the game, and how I may have played particularly well that game. I remember my average win, because its shown to me. I DONT remember my average losses.
The system makes me feel better than I am, just to derank me after a completely reasonable 5-5. The wins feel more valuable because theyre placed on a pedestal when in reality, they arent.
My suggestion would be to make it 5 total games, similar to the overwatch 1 placements. Show my losses highlighted in red, and my wins highlighted in green. That way when I preform poorly it is shown in my cards.
I hate the fact that I won 5 games in masters/diamond lobbies with zero losses but it doesn't put me there lol. I was high masters and crept just into GM in ow1, and climbing to that pt is no issue now, but if you have me kicking masters ass, put me there from the start
great idea. i’m honestly confused as to why that isn’t what they went with. 5 wins for update and 15 damn losses for update is already very lopsided. honestly, i think they should make it a 3 game system independent of w/l. that way, you still have the number anxiety being eliminated, but the card is smaller, so that it doesn’t feel like your previous games will loom over you for the next rank update. the worst anxiety you can get is “oh, i lost 2 games in a row, hopefully i can turn this last one around and not derank”
fun fact that is almost exactly how placements in ow1 was shown lol tho not really with map&heros played and only after a match it was briefly shown but still you saw losses as red wins as green and ties as yellow shown as a bar that filled up after each game
The life of a support main is just "LIVE YOU STUPID FOOL!" and "Please peel for me, their Moira is in our backyard AGAIN!"
the other day i played with a mercy/moira ho complained that the dps were letting us supports die, but then threw a tantrum and just went on a sightseeing tour of the map, instead of trying anything so i was solo support. how is that gonna win the fight any better!?? anyway by the time i watched it back i played to many games to go back and report for sabotage
If you can't kill Moira that's a skill issue, the only one that can't win the duel is Lucio
@@ZaWrldo I was more so referring to that the Moira should be an easy punish then "I can't kill her."
The life of a support main, “Behind!” And “I can’t heal I’m dead”
@@ZaWrldo its still pretty easy on lucio unless they are being healed or ulting
7:50 the reason for sitting on rams head is that you as support player *know* that he will walk out of LOS immediately and blame you afterwards
Ill keep it 100% real, if Im that Ana babysitting my tank all game and he flames me the 1 time he dies, Im throwing and taking his elo with me.
I hate games like that fr
Mentality of a 3 year old. Just mute and play the game
@@Callingusa2000 I agree, that tank did have the mentality of a 3 year old
@@darcidious99 that tank was dumb as shit but i was talking about you homie. Don't throw games and ruin the rest of your teammate's game because one guy is being stupid. Just mute and play the game
@@darcidious99you’re doing it at the expense of your other teammates.
Pretty sure the other DPS around 9 minutes was a soldier. So yeah, big Rammy explosion comp.
I live for flats being salty about being wrong about Brig's ult.
“YOUR NOT DYING TODAY BROTHER!!”
Yea the private profile is a solution to an overwatch problem where people would constantly profile check to bully someone onto a hero. It was especially an issue before the role queue was implemented.
I remember back in overwatch 1 when I originally started playing I just filled a lot. I’d let the team pick then id fill whatever was missing just so that I could have a decent game. The problem was my season profiles would make me look like some support main when in reality support was my worst role. So if I’d join a match and pick tank or dps (especially dps), the team would troll and we would have 5 dps…. Ironically I was low plat at best on support but my no-switch alt was around mid masters on dps. So by the very merit of griefing because “our support is going dps” my team would be inadvertently throwing whenever I attempted to go on my stronger roles.
Private profiles helped tone down that specific issue because you could no longer profile stalk people to justify toxic behaviour or your desire to sit on dps all game long even when you did poorly.
i always find it funny the ranked discussions because I'm a (somewhat) decent apex player, I grind ranks etc and I play overwatch when I want to wind down. yes, ironically unranked overwatch is my relaxation game. I never touched ranked, but I wouldn't say I'm a casual because I play it every day, but even for me flats' point is very sound. I had to private my profile because the sherlock holmes would get mad if I didn't pocket them when I was playing support
That guy in gm lobbies with 5 games played has a bugged account because he merged his console account to his pc account
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You can blame the Ramattra for dying. His positioning is horrible as he left himself to a 1v5 and seems to have used all his cooldowns. He's also staring down a BASTION in a KIRKO ULT.
I understand the point flats wants to make but he looks ridiculous when he forces it down your throat lol and this is why there are people who dislike him cause he seems like a narcissist sometimes.
Your first paragraph is fine, the second one you went off the rails there
@@khaledm.1476 I didn't say anything out of pocket but flats chat called out the play and he didn't want to change points.
Yet you dont say anything about the anas positioning? He was up the rams ass. Ram died instantly, there was no way he would get out of there in time. Even if perfect cooldown cycling theres about a second of downtime just due to his cooldown times. And that one second was enough to melt him.
@Xshot12 Ana was clearly away from ram when he died as she smartly fell back but lost LOS because ram didn't. Look it's not hard to see here flats is wrong so don't die hard protect him because I didn't say he isn't ever right or not good for the community.
I don't know how well it would work but I think a fun concept for comp were both teams get 2 characters to ban for the match where neither team is able to choose that character like if you want to run a rein comp so ban Bastion. I think it'd be interesting to see what characters no one wants to play against
I would pick mercy and bastion just to spite them
this would suck a lot for one tricks and would be hard to implement practically. What if everyone on the team chose different heroes, or what if consistantly everybody constantly banned certain heroes, say youre a bastion or sombra one trick but every game youre banned from your main, youre just gonna de-rank, not be having fun and likely quit.
@isaacsimpson8098 I'm saying that as a widow one trick. Doesn't need to be the main competitive Playlist just try it for a seasonal one but it could help show what needs nerfs when it's always banned
I've though about this and idk if it would work. People would just ban whatever is currently the OP hero, and I dont think the solution to balancing the game is to just disable heroes
@swanletsecondchannel8533 the only thing that gives me faith in it is that it works in every other game quite well. Heroes of the storm had it. I believe league of legends has it. I haven't played in a while. They worked flawlessly had I never heard any issues about it
For the preferred heros idea, I would pick 3 heroes that I don't play so the enemy thinks I'm like a rein main then they pick orisa when I would pick like winston.
Call me viagra I’m keeping you upright!! This was too good.
If tanks die any faster they will need to increase the tick rate lol
I remember using the profile thing to see the enemy team and what they would likely pick. Especially helped on 2cp maps.
Counterpicking from spawn is just evil
picking bastion from the start is evil
they should make you able to check profiles after match ended
That strategy wouldn't work on me, I will get potg on a hero I have less than 15 hours on
@@Yea___ you could see the total hours of all characters, their stats, etc... Unless you had many accounts, which only really happened on console due to game sharing, it was fairly reliable.
The support experience I feel as a Lifeweaver main is either 1 of 2 things. Pull ally at low hp and they get pissed off because they were about to kill the enemy, or don’t pull ally at low hp because they are fighting and they die and get pissy that you DIDN’T pull. It’s one of those things where you see an ally at low hp you pull and somehow it’s always your fault and you can never get it right even though they have 1 bar of hp
Pull if they're in a 1v2 or more, because in 1v1 they'll live if you keep them up most of the time.
I've never got mad for not being pulled, only for being pulled, it has a long cool down, just use it in an emergency and look at what your teammate is doing before you pull
They need to add an option for private profiles to allow or disallow people from seeing certain things in your profile. Cause I'm fine with people going to my profile cause they wanna see what I play, but the people who desperately search through people's profiles to be toxic as hell made me lose any ability to want to let people see my stats at all. If I could make it so they could only see my play times on heroes then that would be great.
Lol, that last TikTok "Get rid of this shit, this thing is awful." Maybe Blizzard heard him?
As soon as you see the bastion as a support you know you gotta look at the tank all the time.
Sudden tank explosion syndrome is real
CALL ME VIAGRA BECAUSE IM KEEPING YOU UP BROTHER!! is gold
10:22 bro got 9k healing and "let down the tank"
I love Flat's suggestion on those 3 prefered hero picks, that should come to bear.
sounds good but it wont fix any of the problems he mentioned like if its a mercy meta and you get 2 healers who dont play her its not gonna stop people from trying to bully them or just saying ggs and throwing meta slaves with stay that way
@@knightsky4438 but they will be bullied into that regardless of whether you can see their profile or not. He was suggesting preferred hero picks as a solution to the private profile problem. your example didn't go with your point. in fact is was an entirely different scenario than what flats had talked about.
@@mentarium yes they would get bullied regardless which is my point but if you think thats its a completely different scenerio then why did he bring up being bullied into playing a hero you dont play as an example like having preferred heroes will change it i dont know what you heard or read but its not about the scenerio its about how his idea wont change anything having to do with the examples and scenarios that he used LUL
@@knightsky4438 his point was for when you had a hero you don't play as your most played hero because you were filling or something for that season. you were talking about forcing people who didn't play mercy into playing mercy for the meta, not forcing someone to play their most played for the season even if they didn't want to. yelling at someone to play meta is way different than basing purely off profile.
@@mentarium oh yes bullying someone into playing a hero you don't play when they can see your hours is way different than bullying them into playing a hero they don't play just because now we can see what heroes they prefer LUL im stuck on the fact that you think those are so vastly different that you really repeated what he said like it automatically changes what I said which is that it won't change players from bully randos into playing heroes that you don't play with his master idea to reduce bullying LMAO
When someone says I can't talk about it now i'll get in trouble that's when you know they have sold out
A solution to cards I never hear people talk about is cards resetting every 24 hours. If you go on a win streak you get all the benefits, if you get on a loss streak and put the game down you take the rank update overnight and then wake up the next day to a fresh start. I think that's a good compromise tbh
The issue I can imagine with that is somebody going on a lose streak and just stopping exclusively to not eat the losses.
When Flats was talking about Zenyatta players in masters…I feel called out. (Minus the focusing tank bit, I focus the squishies.)
I mean kiriko doesn't even counter anti if you're a good enough ana player and get a little lucky. Suzu is on cool down a few seconds longer than anti, so if you use your anti nade and kiriko cleanses it you're guaranteed to get max value from your next nade if you use it straight away since she does get suzu back until the anti has almost expired anyways.
I like the idea of setting your preferred character, but people will still find a way to complain about it and say something like “WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING YOUR MAIN???” As opposed to them only playing their fav and being yelled at for one tricking.
Here's an interesting idea: would OW2 be better off if healing numbers were lowered, or if DPS numbers were lowered?
*edit: I mean as a priority wise. Both are important and should be does together, but for a hypothetical sake, I ask which one should take priority.
I wanna hear flats answer on this fs
You would have to do both. If damage got lowered and not healing, nothing would die. And if healing got lowered and not damage, everything would explode instantly.
Overall, you have to lower both for the game to function. But considering that the general way the game is headed is "everyone has to be able to 2 shot 200hp heros" I think DPS is the issue. Mainly, DPS on "support" heros. Ana was the first support (aside from Zen) that was capable of challenging a few DPS. She could 3 shot, but her shots take so much time that it wasn't an issue. Now you have Bap, Kiri, Illari etc who just dink you twice before you can blink and win the fight off it.
Change the way healing is done and lower damage. You could still have the same healing output, but if you spread it out (less instaheal, more healing over time) it would give people the chance to kill someone without support feeling like a losing battle. They also need to stop making DPS support. Illari feels like the dev team wanted to make a DPS but were locked into making a support because promises. We need more supports that support the team, not just DPS with afk healing.
If the game got deleted and reworked because the fundamental design of the game is broken and unfunxgional as a competettive game.
I love tilted Flats yelling about how Tank is to play in OW
Oh I'm 100% using the "CALL ME VIAGRA CAUSE I'M KEEPING YOU UP BROTHER" in my next support game
13:18 This happened to me in the early days of Overwatch. I had to often fill for main tank which made Orisa my most played hero of that current season. One game i picked Junkrat (my most played hero ever) and my teammate flamed me for not going Orisa because he only looked at my playtime for current season and not total playtime. I told him ive played Junkrat a 100 hours more than i played Orisa and he lost his shit
I never have this problem. I have 500 hours on Brig, I usually play Brig in comp, but people still insist I play Mercy or Ana, of whom I have maybe a grand total of 20 hours combined and who I suck at.
@@GummyDinosaursifyhow do you suck at mercy she has to be the second easiest hero in the game
@@zsm3985 probably bad at movement
@@zsm3985 My movement on Mercy is awkward. I have all the right settings, but it's like it won't pick up my button inputs and when it does, it glitches out and will fling me into the ground or I get caught on a wall. Apparently these are common Mercy bugs that I tend to just get a lot. Besides, there's no point in me boosting a Soldier who is missing 90% of their shots.
9:55 Chat guessing Tracer and Hanzo but you could hear and SEE the soldier shooting the Ana xd
Overwatch is my main game and I used to be a hardcore player, but I'm more of a casual player now BECAUSE of the card system. I have general anxiety when it comes to competing, and yes I would get anxious when queuing for comp games and ranking down, but I pushed through it so I could climb and say I was good at the game I loved. Not knowing where I am after one game would kill my drive to climb and all that was left was the anxiety. And even though I was actually climbing, I didn't feel satisfied because I wouldn't know until 5 wins. To me though, it wasn't just 5 wins. It could range from 6 (because I have never gone on a win streak higher than 3 in my comp games) to 15 games and not knowing when I would get my wins made me even more anxious. So I just quit comp entirely.
The other thing to mention is that account is open and I ain't never see new players open their account. That shit is always private
No way Flats just referenced the José Mourinho meme 😂😂
I can confirm for flats. I am gone from overwatch 2.
me personally nobody's bullying me into playing someone i dont want to play
Fun story about private profiles: I had mine friends only because whatever. But when hero progression came out, i made it public because i wanted to show off the shiny new badges i was earning.
It took only 48 hours (played both days) and i had nearly every other game i played where someone bitched about something on my profile ("dogshit cause you're [rank]", "my choice of heroes was shit", "peaked" cause i don't play that much comp, etc)
Aaaand now it's back to private. 🤐 People being garbage humans is why private profiles exist.
Ow 2 gotta be the planet fitness of fps games
3:23 we need an x men Phoenix skin for illari
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I’m Overwatch 1, the requirement to play Competitive mode was level 25, meaning that account had NEVER played competitive in Overwatch 1 if it was only level 15.
I keep getting super low levels who go like 8-13 by the time I’m already at 20-5 (literally happened yesterday)
As long as hard counters exist, overwatch will never be competitive.
We need a skin for Ramm that gives him a Wizard Hat and Ideally a big white wizard beard.
The only that needs a a set change for comp is the win loss system and a loss penalty fee if any player decides to rage quit, thats the annoying thing where you get a warning and have 2 min to play before they allow you to leave and regardless you'd still get a Loss.
I was never bullied into playing my top hero’s. I was like yea I can play em if u want me too.
best take at the end
your one of my fav overwatch peeps flats i love your comments
Hot take...the focus on turning this game into some hc competitive FPS was a mistake. The reason why OW was such a phenomenon early on was because it was a casual shooter that had different characters to fit every kind of FPS playstyle. Probably too late to reverse course now though as the casuals have been pushed away. Most casual players don't care about the top players and don't have any hopes of getting remotely that good. Just like dudes playing their in their local rec soccer leagues don't have any remote dreams of becoming the next Messi. They don't have the innate skills nor are willing to devote that much of their lives to doing that. They just play for some fun.
Maybe you could like right click in the hero select screen on a hero to pick your preferred character
I was a public profile Chad for like 6 years until my friend noticed that the enemy team kept rolling out on rein counters every game when he played with me. He told me to go private and now I almost never see orisa lmao
10:57 I stopped playing ranked as a casual player, I’m a workshop warrior
10:00 that is so true, no matter how much healing you gave to the tank, when you just look away for one second, instantly dead, not gonna blame the tank thou cause tank tanking, but still, that is actually really painful to just get exploded like in one second 😂
That is okie if everyone is okie, but if somebody just decide to scream and blame the support when we just keep heal botting sometimes especially when you in critical health, it's really painful :'3
I am the Reinhardt that turns Supports into Healers
Not the one in the tiktok, just in general
the ranked system was something else
3:00 I should be a silver border but it shows a bronze border, definitely messed something up
I don't have anxiety about the number going up and down, I have anxiety about being put in a t500 lobby when I'm plat.
Fun fact: Ranked modes are expressly not for casual play, they're for competitive ranked play
As a casual player myself who’s played since 2017-2018 I only played rank 2 times and in overwatch 2 i only play ranked to troll with whacky picks like battle mercy or wingless pharah
More tiktoks to watch with Flats?? I love it, you love it? I love it.
blizz actually released stats saying ana is the most played hero
mercy do be second tho
Bro, I haven't played a real ranked game since season 15. When my Friends finally started playing. And that was only for like a night or two
I'm a casual and I think I am more anxious with the current system than I ever was with the previous one lol
I haven’t played ranked since I went 5/2 and was moved back into Plat
Flats' private profile thing would work if it also showed stats for the three perferred heroes, and ofc have three slots for each role, so the team could see which hero theyre like. The best on, kinda??? And stuff like that
so with the casual ranked system, the cards take ages to fill, especially if you queue all 3 like i tend to do, it will take an actual day or 2 to rank in just one role
Yeah whenever I looked for groups to play comp, they always forced me to play Rein on tank because it was my most played. Not because they wanted to do a brawl comp. Didn't want me swapping according to what we were facing neither.
12:20 when players say that, they usually mean teammates, not them necessarily.
Hmm that poor ramatra that's definitely what it feels like as a tank player just one sec I'm fine and next just a poof and ima gone
6:42 I go for whatever moves I’m unranked :)
Flats you said Brig ult would break the game not just be "good"
I’ve never had a private profile but I don’t understand why people feel the need to see each other’s profiles. It’s not like it actually helps anyone and your 100% lying if you say that you use it for coordinating.
Edit: Even with Flats’ solution where he says “If you don’t want to put three, just put one.” that’s the same thing as just picking the hero you want.
I am stealing that Viagra joke
I think the 5 placement matches should exist for placement at the start of the season but after then it should to a win, lose system
I mean to be fair, I was a casual player and I wouldn’t touch comp for like two years
My preferred tanks: who cares they have bastion torb ana zen I won't be playing the game today goodbye teammates
7:29 a dps complaint that I was dying a lot once, the sups told him to shut the fuck up and do his job and kill people so that I could live and do my job... 😅
i’ve said this before but i’ll say it again:
as a casual who wants to grind to improve in comp, the card system is _literally_ the reason i don’t play it. it doesn’t feel good losing and then feeling like “welp, i’m screwed for the next 5 games at the *minimum*” but since i have nothing on the line, it’s much easier for me to just go back to qp than to keep playing on a losing card
I had a rein yesterday that I healed him to full for him to hit half health as soon as I reloaded so a naded for him to drop to crit. So I nanoed the tank with the nade boost to full for him to die 4 seconds later. We won that fight but idk how I'm suppose to keep him from dying. The best we are given as supports is keep the tank alive long enough for dps to kill everything.
11:10 As a former Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 2 Casual I can confirm I’d rather go blind playing Valorant than play OW2 nowadays
taking out private profiles would be dumb because if ur a 1trick you would go into the first fight against 5 counters
At this point I'm just playing practise vs ai & custom games
flats always has the most based takes, i genuinely think blizz should take notes.
2:29 no, I made a fresh account and I had karQ in my 2nd or 3rd ever game (I kinda forgot which one, but I got a video of it somewhere)
Currently in the process of researching ranks further.
7:41 me and my friends in any match lol
Catering to casual players kicked them out of the player base 💀
I got a dps player in my diamond 3 lobby one game who has only ever played 10 games of games in the entire of playing the game and it was no surprise when they went 0-12.
That guy talking about what support to play in what rank completely glossed over the fact that as you go higher up the skill tree players have better mechanics so heroes like baptiste or illari get more value since these players can actually hit shots.
I've never played support and was that stressed out, support is easy so I just vibe
Private profiles solely exist for smurfs to hide behind now ive never seen a functional purpose for it
As a casual player who is gold, and only played 150 games in the last season, bring back rankings after every game.
I don’t get why Flats keeps saying Mercy is undoubtably the most popular hero in the game when Ana has the highest pick rate in ranked and competitive from T500-Silver.
rule 34 duh
Appreciate the fact flats ain't to into his own head that he can't admit being wrong, keep up the good work
That elo list was ass 😂
dude suggesting moira for bronze to gold and listing everything except the most obvious reason which is the aim crutch to overcome the lack of mechanical skill
I havnt heard about the dva death pack in a hot minute 😂
i keep rewatching his spectating series so i hear it a lot 😂
My man will be on critica hp untill ow3 and pve will be released
I’m masters and a zen one trick pony because I love him thoooo😭😭
I will admit as somebody who is scared of comp, the new comp system makes me less anxious. Still don’t play much comp but Flats is definitely right about the new system being for casuals