Can You Stop Being Gay? | Middle Ground (Response)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
  • Can you stop being gay? A question that was asked by a panel on Jubilee (Middle Ground). You will recognize a guest, Brandon Robertson, who is more known for rejecting what scripture says than believing it. Obviously, you can expect what he had to say about this topic. I share my insights in what the Bible has to say, enjoy!
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Комментарии • 157

  • @jwmdlm07
    @jwmdlm07 Год назад +23

    What is this hypocrisy? So you’re born this way buuuut gender is fluid? Somebody please explain this to me.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      HERE SOME SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY:
      + The WHO, World Health Organization, stated clearly, that homosexuality not a disease or disorder, but a healthy natural sexual orientation.
      + It is most likely innate (determined by SNP in several genes and by antibodies (NLGN4Y) during pregnancy), as the opposite sex is never sexual attractive to people born homosexual.
      + Evolution scientists stated in several publications, that homosexuality exists since sexuality exists, since 385 million years.
      + They also stated, that having homosexual members in the own tribe, gives several evolutionary advantages, which explains the permanent share of 4-10% homosexuals of the population.
      >> So, the question would be rather: why putting an ethical limit on homosexuality if its natural, healthy and even with a natural sense?
      >> Especially now as more and more homosexuals marry and adopt and raise kids that else wise would have no parents.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      @@painfulaches You said very good :)

  • @wfigueroa3243
    @wfigueroa3243 Год назад +22

    She said an orientation can’t be changed yet you can change your gender. They make it up as they go along.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад

      lol exactly.

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 Год назад +1

      Gender & Orientation aren't the same thing. Are we gonna disregard the fact that one of the "Ex-gay" people mentioned gay earthquakes?

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад +1

      @Kdubtru No my friend: you can change your gender with an operation, but still you will only be a trans man or a trans woman not a real biologoical man or woman.
      What you cant change is your sexual orientation.
      A heterosexual man, that decides to become a monk , is also no "ex-heterosexual".

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +5

      @@seekerhonest getting an operation doesn’t change your gender

    • @TinkerBell-bt6vu
      @TinkerBell-bt6vu 11 месяцев назад

      ​@itsnatemate7697 are you going to ignore the fact that the ex gay person identifies himself as that. Then you go and put quotes around it, undermining the way that person identifies? Are you the arbitor of truth of how a person identifies themselves? You are actively misidentifying a person by using quotes around "ex gay" saying that YOU somehow know that person's identity and orientation better than they do themselves.
      Hypocrisy much?

  • @letgodbetrue8864
    @letgodbetrue8864 11 месяцев назад +9

    I love that you made it clear that God’s Word is the standard to go by, and not our senses, emotions, or feelings.

  • @God_And_Gains
    @God_And_Gains 11 месяцев назад +7

    I was delivered from bisexuality.

  • @dcfal817
    @dcfal817 Год назад +15

    Rashad was the only Christian sticking to biblical principles and not emotions. God calls you out not to be a coward but be bold in the Lord (Proverbs 28:1)

    • @adriaanj1808
      @adriaanj1808 Год назад +2

      He added his experience as well. He even put it on par with scripture. This is always a slippery slope.

    • @MrViking842000
      @MrViking842000 Год назад

      what a bunch of crap

  • @temdasarah
    @temdasarah 11 месяцев назад +2

    know your bible!!! ex homosexual myself & people love to rewrite my story to fit this modern culture

  • @Particularly_John_Gill
    @Particularly_John_Gill Год назад +7

    Kdub I'm glad you mentioned at the end that one can still experience homosexual desires and still be a Christian if they are fighting against that unnatural desire.
    I think there are is a conception with some that if God does not completely take away that desire that person cannot be a Christian. God can and does do that with some people though. The war with sin is a life long pursuit on this side of glory.

    • @Test_Card_Tom
      @Test_Card_Tom Год назад

      If homosexuality was 'unnatural' then natural selection would long ago have culled it from the gene pool...it hasn't because it does not conflict with or harm humanity because it is a minority of humanity. And anyway even if it was unnatural then so is walking on water or being raised from the dead so homosexuality could in that light be considered equallly miraculous.

    • @eddiejones5702
      @eddiejones5702 11 месяцев назад

      Amen!

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      There’s no gay gene.

    • @Test_Card_Tom
      @Test_Card_Tom 11 месяцев назад

      @@Kdubtru I'm not suggesting there's a single Gay gene anymore than there's a single heterosexual gene. The point I'm making is that whatever the contributing factor(s) in nature that creates homosexuality is no different to that of heterosexuality and further if homosexuality in any way was harmful to human life then evolution would long ago have cancelled whatever in the human gene pool was responsible. It may well be that genes only play a minor role in a human becoming homosexual and that other factors also exist, but that still doesn't alter the fact that evolution has permitted its continued existence.
      As I wrote homosexuality is no less 'natural' than heterosexuality. Sexuality in humans is highly complex and science at this stage doesn't have all the answers. Religions calling humans who evolve to be homosexuals 'sinners' is as absurd as humans who evolve to have ginger hair also being called sinners.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      HERE SOME SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY:
      + The WHO, World Health Organization, stated clearly, that homosexuality not a disease or disorder, but a healthy natural sexual orientation.
      + It is most likely innate (determined by SNP in several genes and by antibodies (NLGN4Y) during pregnancy), as the opposite sex is never sexual attractive to people born homosexual.
      + Evolution scientists stated in several publications, that homosexuality exists since sexuality exists, since 385 million years.
      + They also stated, that having homosexual members in the own tribe, gives several evolutionary advantages, which explains the permanent share of 4-10% homosexuals of the population.
      >> So, the question would be rather: why putting an ethical limit on homosexuality if its natural, healthy and even with a natural sense?
      >> Especially now as more and more homosexuals marry and adopt and raise kids that else wise would have no parents.

  • @GilbertGTV
    @GilbertGTV 11 месяцев назад +2

    You missed the point of me pointing out being a singer or a painter, someone's son, someone's brother. The point there isn't whether or not those things are sin. You didn't understand that I was directly responding to what Samuel just said. Clearly Samuel does not believes those things are sin either. I was responding to Samuel's claim that you can't be ANYTHING other than a child of God. I was pushing back that that isn't true. When your identity is in Christ, you can still be many other things. You can be still be multiple things at once. It wasn't a stupid argument just because you didn't understand it. Of course Samuel believes homosexuality is a sin, but that wasn't his argument until he switches it up after I ask a question that turns the argument on it's head about identity.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      I got the point, I disagree with it. The comparison was apples and oranges.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      Would be willing to discuss tho

  • @donnpatez101
    @donnpatez101 Год назад +6

    Some people think that just because they no longer sleep with a person of same sex they just stop being gay. I am gay yet I am still a virgin. You resort to celibate is one thing,but you're still gay despite not having sex with some other person. Being gay is an identity. The act o homosexual sex is a different thing.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +6

      God can change your sinful desires as well. Repent. Your identity isn’t in who you are attracted to considering that it is sinful.

    • @donnpatez101
      @donnpatez101 Год назад

      @@Kdubtru I wonder if some many closeted priests who became priests to hide who they are have ever heard God?

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +5

      i mean im not catholic... but idc what religion you are, God doesnt condone homosexuality.

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 Год назад

      @@Kdubtru With these comments, Christians are a cult

    • @Test_Card_Tom
      @Test_Card_Tom Год назад

      @@Kdubtru How do you know the mind of God you little ant.

  • @athicks19
    @athicks19 Год назад +10

    God doesn't have to prove himself to no man but I see what the guy is trying to say. Brandon is leading people to hell and will judge him for it. We are new creatures in Christ so God takes any desire away that doesn't honor him.

    • @Ma1nguy
      @Ma1nguy Год назад +1

      Well if we're new creatures in Christ, why are so many heterosexual bishops, pastors, ministers, evangelists still struggling with lust for women and many are carrying on this behavior at the big annual convocations in which they leave their spouses at home to engage in adulterous affairs where there are thousands in attendance so the affairs are quite furtive and away from prying eyes??? I'm told about the mess that goes on at these holy convocations.

    • @Savedbygrace22
      @Savedbygrace22 Год назад

      @@Ma1nguy Because we still have a sin nature although we are new in Christ (Romans 7 and 8). If a person willfully and joyfully sins while claiming to be a Christian we confront them like we are told to in Matthew 18:15-17. Those who don’t practice church discipline are encouraging sin and not helping someone who may think they are a Christian but are deceived.
      Hope that helps you understand that that type of lifestyle doesn’t necessarily mean Christians are being hypocrites, they could be deceived and not saved. Like David did in Psalm 51, they will have a godly repentance not live enjoying a lifestyle of sin.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      I think you are wrong my friend:
      If god is jeapous and wants to be worshipped and believed in he has to present himself in a way that people can know he exist.
      This he doesnt do.
      If god doesnt want to be worshipped (thats what I believe) then he doesnt have to prove himself.

    • @CameronRoberts-jh9mr
      @CameronRoberts-jh9mr 8 месяцев назад

      The bible clearly teaches that we are a new creation in christ with new desires and while we will sin less christians will still never be perfect until a glorified body.

  • @JigsawPuzzleConnection
    @JigsawPuzzleConnection 11 месяцев назад

    God can deliver you from anything. It is sin but we can be transfromed.

  • @LeslieBiggs
    @LeslieBiggs 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just watched this in Middle Ground and found your analysis. Great break down. Thanks! It’s hard to believe how arrogant and terrible the theology is on the LGTBQ side.

  • @ellisperry6802
    @ellisperry6802 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hmmm... homosexuality is a choice? God has power over everything else but has no power over homosexuality? Ok, how then can God be God? If that's the case, then there can be no sin. If there's no sin, then why will there be a judgment? God created Adam and Eve, so when God made man in his own image that was prior to the sin. Now, since sin is now present, thus, we are born into sin and shaped in iniquity. So, to say God created people this way is wrong. Ok, the Bible does not specifically state homosexuality is a sin, cool, where dies the Bible specifically states it's not a sin. If coming from a Biblical perspective, then have to have proof from a Biblical perspective.

  • @jesustalkspace
    @jesustalkspace 11 месяцев назад +1

    The argument made by that guy who compared singing to being a homosexual made me cringe…do these people even study logic at all now a days?

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      Apparently not, a silly comparison

  • @GilbertGTV
    @GilbertGTV 11 месяцев назад +3

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 does not say "homosexual" in the original language.
    And I am not drawing attention to myself unnecessarily. The question is literally about identity. There is no way to discuss this without mentioning yourself. I mean, How else are you supposed to talk about identity without referencing what you have OBSERVED (and that is the word) about yourself at some point. You are highlighting that part as though it is narcissistic and out of line when it is literally the topic "How does one know who they are? How do I know who I am?" You make observations, that's how.
    Clearly, we read the Bible and we study it to understand how God operates and what life was like for the believers that come before us, absolutely, but to walk forward in this life, we have to acknowledge how God made us as individuals. We are not clones of those we read about in Scripture. God spent time knitting and designing each one of us INDIVIDUALLY in our mother's womb and OBSERVING that is an essential part of this conversation.
    For those of us that are exclusively attracted to members of the same sex means we OBSERVE that God made us gay. Most of us realize this as children. We didn't give ourselves our own orientation. I think you are severely misunderstanding the Scriptures you are referencing or at least have a LOT left to learn about orientation and what the word "gay" actually means. It is not about behavior. It's about attraction, innate attractions that do not change.
    Here is the video where I explain the origin of the English translation of the word "homosexual" translated from the Greek "Malokoi" and "Arsenokoitai"
    ruclips.net/video/00Kp37xaJos/видео.html

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      Hey Gilbert! Glad you’re here, there’s no question arsenakoites is referring to homosexuality. The issue is Roman’s 1 presents the lust/desire as sinful. Also how could the act be sinful but not the desire for it?

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kdubtru Because you are equating homosexuality to lust. Homosexuality is not confined to only that or is even primarily defined as that. “Homosexual” means “same sex” (meaning same gender, not the act of sex) and it involves the totality of sexuality which primarily acknowledges the exclusive romantic attraction and love towards members of the same sex as well as the sexual desire. Romans 1 is about idolatry and lust (the act of sex, without love… ONLY sexual desire, in excess). It is NOT about romance and/or love between two men or two women, in committed relationships. That’s an important thing to differentiate. People that try and force a “gay” lens on Romans dismiss an understanding of the idolatry that Paul witnessed and was calling out amongst Roman pagans and Greeks (that clearly involved same sex behavior during their idolatrous practices) but it also lacks an understanding of what it actually means to be gay.
      Also, I’d like to point to the fact that these men were most likely heterosexual because it says they left their women (their wives) and were inflamed with lust for one another…. I want to gently remind you that gay men don’t have women to abandon. When men are gay, and they understand themselves to be that way, they take responsibility for it and stay ethical by NEVER taking a women on as a romantic partner simply so that they can have external acceptance by their religious families and church communities. Why? Because that would be unfair to the women. I make this point also at the end of the Jubilee video.
      I will say, thank you brother for being respectful here. I would love to continue dialogue with you if it can remain this calm and respectful. 🙏🏼❤️

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      I can tell you've been influenced by gay promoting scholars like Gushee. But this doesnt do service to the burned with lust for "one another" how is that not a monogamous relationship?
      And im pretty chill and calm, I've had conversations on my channel with people who i disagree with numerous times to demonstrate i can keep my calm in "Heated exchanges" @@GilbertGTV

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 11 месяцев назад

      @@Kdubtru That would be a false assumption. I don’t even know who Gushee is. I have done the studying myself and it has always surprised me that people even get an “anti-gay” read out of these texts. To me, it is so clearly condemning the act externally because of how unloving and rebellious it is. As a gay person, there is NO rebellion in who I love and whom I want to build a godly relationship with. That is the problem. People that don’t understand these issues already see gay people as rebellious and therefore can’t open their minds to see that it has nothing to do with rebellion at all. It’s about walking through life with attractions that are exclusive to the same sex and knowing it was never a choice and it can not be changed. People that don’t understand that, will see Scriptures about rebellion, even using sex as rebellion, and will attribute that to being gay based off their own assumptions about gay people. It’s a circle. It’s like the man that went to the doctor because he thought he was dead. The doctor told him, “dead men don’t bleed.” The man agreed. The doctor then cut the man and when the blood came out, the man shouted, “Well what do you know? Dead men do bleed!”
      See what I mean? If you already believe being gay is a sin, and gay people are making a rebellious decision, you are always going to ignore knowledge to the contrary because it challenges your world view and its foundational. The idea that God created gay people would REALLY mess with the foundation of what you have built your view of Him as. That is why I am somewhat sympathetic but not to the point of not being willing to have the hard conversations. You can always ask me anything.
      And I don’t understand your question about monogamy. Of course burning with lust is not monogamy, especially if you are leaving your wives to go do that with other men. That’s why Romans 1 is not about being gay, because gay people can and do live monogamous lives and (as I have already stated) they don’t have wives to “abandon”.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@GilbertGTV I believe being gay is a sin on the basis of scripture. Interesting rhetoric though, I don’t see any way to hold to a faithful reading of all of scripture and believe homosexuality is a good thing. Don’t see how that is the message you get.
      But maybe we can schedule a recorded conversation if you’re up for it? You’ve been chill

  • @tronaristocrat7965
    @tronaristocrat7965 Год назад +4

    I always like to point to to the fallen state of man and what God says about the creature. Not what I think, or I feel. Proverbs 14:12, and 16:25.

  • @mrs.murphy2611
    @mrs.murphy2611 Год назад +1

    13:40 whewwww 🔥

  • @toniayers6550
    @toniayers6550 11 месяцев назад

    I knew from the title of this video it was gonna be triggering for some in the comments. Spiritual warfare. God be with you all.

  • @conservativesavage1076
    @conservativesavage1076 Год назад +5

    Brandon has flat out admitted he does not believe the Bible is the inherent word of God. I don't know how one can consider them a Christian if they disagree with the basics of the theology and especially the bible in itself. He can't be taken seriously as a pastor and it's sad that so many trust him.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +2

      Exactly

    • @Test_Card_Tom
      @Test_Card_Tom Год назад +1

      If the Bible is the word of God then you should be preaching to have the estimated 2 billion heterosexual adulterers in the world (including the present king and queen of England) be put to death...but Christianity and Islam seem only fixated on homosexuality because basically the simple truth is you're all hypocrites...and guess what? God knows you are.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      A VALID QUESTION:
      The biblical god Yahwe is supposed to have created the universe, the earth and the humans. We humans exist since 300k years and we have thousands of religious human testimonies from 100k - 6k years ago from hunting gods, fertility gods, venus gods, pantheons of hundreds of gods, etc but not a single testimony of a "one and only god" yahwe or Adam and Eve.
      How come that this god, that is supposed to have created us at the beginning, is first mentioned only 3500-5000 years ago?

    • @conservativesavage1076
      @conservativesavage1076 11 месяцев назад

      @@seekerhonest because despite what evolutionists say I believe the earth is only actually about 6000 years old.

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      @@conservativesavage1076 Thanks for your answer, but we cant ignore reality just to save the gospel.
      They found the oldest homo sapiens skeleton in Morocco, dated on 300k years, with the Thermoluminescence method (precise on +-10%). They also found hundreds of homo sapiens skeletons all over North Africa dated on 250k years or 180k years, depending where they found them. So its a fact that we humans exist in our actual form since around 300k years.
      Well correct is that archaeologists are very active lately: they are digging out for example a human settlement with a pagan temple dated on 12,000 years of age with a fertility cult room full of stone penises in Turkey. In south Europe they found cave paintings with shamanistic hunting gods scenes dated on 60,000 years of age, they found all over Europe artefacts of Venus gods dated on 40,000 years of age, and of course the oldest scripts of complete pantheons of gods 10,000-8,000 years of age.
      Oldest homo sapiens skeleton found in Morocco is dated on 300k years.
      We found millions of artifacts with many different religious believes and they are still finding a lot more now, in the next decades we will know much more.
      But they do not find a single testimony of a one and only god Yahweh or Adam and Eve older than the bible (3500 years).
      It’s getting even worst: the homo neanderthalensis is even older than us and was also religious (he put his dead people in graves together with grave goods for afterlife). Is homo neanderthalensis also considered by god? How about homo heidelbergensis? Or homo erectus?
      Did god create Adam and Eve as homo heidelnergensis in his image and then we humans evolved to homo sapiens and now we have a more advanced image than god?

  • @Seekingchristdaily
    @Seekingchristdaily Год назад +5

    I love how the brother said he didn’t want to have his identity in anything other than being a child of God. In regards to the reply about being a painter or anything else.. the Bible tells us that all we do should honor God. You can honor God as a painter. There is no way to scripturally honor God practicing an LBGTQ lifestyle. That’s like honoring God with gluttony. It’s an oxymoron.

  • @obakhanjones2869
    @obakhanjones2869 Год назад +2

    He said gay is something you can’t change because he is promoting a genetic scientific basis from being gay so that it can be justified as unchanging. Since you could go from being a pervert to being abstinent it means you don’t have to have an identity around sexuality. Rashad brought sobriety to this conversation.
    “But if the wicked turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. None of his transgressions that he hath committed shall be remembered against him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.”
    ‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18‬:‭21‬-‭22‬ ‭ASV‬‬

  • @DegaRican
    @DegaRican 11 месяцев назад +2

    If you want to expand on this and talk with someone who is an ex, let me know.

    • @a.tartist
      @a.tartist 11 месяцев назад

      Are you an ex?

  • @jesustalkspace
    @jesustalkspace 11 месяцев назад +2

    Brandon Robertson is as lost if not more than anyone who has never heard the name of Jesus or even read a Bible before. He’s the very definition of what a false “prophet” would look like and sound like. But just like anyone else he WILL bow to Jesus Christ and confess that Jesus is Lord to the Glory of God the Father, and then judgement will come.

  • @Simonlazarus-n3u
    @Simonlazarus-n3u 11 месяцев назад

    I agree that God really does love the entire world and all sinners. John 3:16. Scriptures that say God hates certain people are metaphoric. Otherwise John 3:16 is a contradiction and we who believe in scripture inerrancy does not believe the Bible contradicts itself.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      I don’t believe John 3:16 is saying every single person, it limits to those who believe but nevertheless, how do you reconcile this with psalm 5:5 that God hates certain people?

    • @Simonlazarus-n3u
      @Simonlazarus-n3u 11 месяцев назад

      @@Kdubtru the Lamb of God was not slain for the whole world?🙄😥😭😭😭

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      Did Jesus die for the wicked prior to His coming? @@Simonlazarus-n3u

  • @jamestiffany3531
    @jamestiffany3531 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey KDub.
    I don't understand the Trinity.
    I'm a oneness of God believer.
    I don't see the Trinity in the Bible

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +2

      The trinity is all throughout scripture: ruclips.net/user/liveFVJzMDzhFIk?si=8qE0TjF7zT3u-FCA

    • @jamestiffany3531
      @jamestiffany3531 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kdubtru KDub.. Please respond.
      Thank you for the link.
      I watched the whole video.
      I thought it was well done and it very well articulated the trinitarian position.
      You two did well in refuting Unitarianism.
      The main issue for me is the same treatment wasn't down for the oneness position.
      With all the information provided I still see the oneness of God being more in line with scripture than that of the trinity.
      The video did well in debunking Unitarianism, but it didn't quite scratch the surface of oneness theology.
      Now I believe this was intended to strengthen the Trinity argument, but I still see oneness in all the scriptures given.
      If I'm wrong then I want to be wrong and change my view.
      I hope you can help with this.
      I'm willing to drop my contact info so we can talk.
      I can't find any of your information to message you outside of this.
      I hope your willing as a man that wants to bring people to truth.

    • @jamestiffany3531
      @jamestiffany3531 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bobproctor-ne9tg Thanks for the reply.
      That's a good oneness proof text.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamestiffany3531 what we said in this video applies to oneness to

    • @jamestiffany3531
      @jamestiffany3531 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kdubtru I agree that you guys mentioned oneness and I see how the trinitarian proof texts can counter the oneness theology, but there a few make or break passages that makes me see the oneness theology being superior over the trinitarian theology.
      Both can be seen in the text, but as a whole I cannot lie and force myself to see something that I don't see.
      That would be disingenuous of me.
      I would love to be able to put a stake in this for my sake and others.
      If this is salvation compromising I don't want to be wrong.
      We see everything almost exactly the same, but I struggle to see these persons.
      I'd love to be able to have a thorough convo if you would ever be willing to do so.
      I'm willing to drop my info.

  • @FitnesswithJesus151
    @FitnesswithJesus151 11 месяцев назад

    Ezekiel 11:19

  • @adriaanj1808
    @adriaanj1808 Год назад +4

    Love the sound of a baby in your background.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +2

      lol he in all the videos now

  • @Joe-fd3pq
    @Joe-fd3pq Год назад +1

    Biblical Christian- Culture = a Plus in God 😊🫡

  • @janetdavis6473
    @janetdavis6473 Год назад +2

    I imagine it’s very hard to give up your sinful sexual desires, but when a person becomes a believer, they are to submit completely to God, and follow the commands of Christ. The Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin, but then helps us overcome them, making Jesus the Lord over our lives.

  • @bjohn1027
    @bjohn1027 Год назад +6

    There is nothing wrong with being gay and no amount of praying will change that

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +5

      There’s absolutely something wrong with being gay. And it can be changed. And you didn’t watch the video I can tell, I didn’t allude to “praying the gay away”

    • @KDP316
      @KDP316 11 месяцев назад

      By what standard?

    • @keith.anthony.infinity.h
      @keith.anthony.infinity.h 8 месяцев назад

      @@Kdubtru Try telling that thousands of LGBT people who are killed themselves because of your beliefs.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  8 месяцев назад +2

      @@keith.anthony.infinity.h I’m not responsible for what sinners do because of their immorality

    • @keith.anthony.infinity.h
      @keith.anthony.infinity.h 8 месяцев назад

      @@Kdubtru I did not say you. But your ideology leads to a lot of suckers in our community because it tells them to change something about themselves which is fundamentally who they are sexually.
      And the fact you cannot see that you care more an ideology than humanity which is terrible in and of it’s self.

  • @Ma1nguy
    @Ma1nguy Год назад +1

    As a same gender loving man myself who loves the Lord and is committed to serving Him, I still haven't awaken in the morning as a lusting heterosexual and I'm an old man now in his 70s. I still believe that marriage is one man and one woman. I'm not judging anyone else but it's not for me. You can love someone deeply without being sexual. Heterosexuals get on my nerves, until they've walked in our shoes they spout off scriptures, theories, and all the reasons why we ended up being gay. GAY IS NOT A CHOICE LIKE HETEROSEXUAL ISN'T A CHOICE, these are the cards we're dealt. I've lived celibate a number of years, my choice after I experienced the sexual side of homosexuality, it always left me feeling used and empty and I couldn't reconcile it with scripture. It's not okay for a man to engage in oral sex nor anal sex with another man, this is my own personal convictions, so I chose to abstain but I still love men. You can't change your sexual orientation unless you suppress it and marry the opposite sex or just like me stay celibate. I've yet to see a gay man change into a lusting heterosexual or womanizer.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +11

      You choose your sin. Repent.

    • @Thewarrior63
      @Thewarrior63 Год назад

      Your justification of your sin is the demon in your heart, repent,you will be shown this interaction on this channel on the day of judgement,believe that...

    • @mrs.murphy2611
      @mrs.murphy2611 Год назад +1

      Paul was once a murderer of Christians. He changed. So can you.. seek God in spirit and in truth. Be honest with him letting him know your desires and if I desire to change them, He will help you. You say u can't change or take these desires away.. but the Bible says let every man be a liar and God be true. If we love Christ, our bodies are Not our own. We don't own our bodies, they are the Lord's temple. May the Lord help u brother in Christ🙏🏾

    • @erinknightingale251
      @erinknightingale251 Год назад

      they are all selling you a story they have no proof of. Do not punish yourself for what you cannot change, they will try to convince you it can be changed while your life experience shows otherwise.

    • @eddiejones5702
      @eddiejones5702 Год назад +2

      Ok. So I struggle with SSA myself, and I hear what your'e sayin'. However, when you say you're a "same gender loving man", what does that mean? I can assume, but you know what they say about assuming! LOL.. So you don't act on your feelings based on Biblical conviction. Good! But, if I still have emotional feelings, sexual desire/feelings for someone of the same sex, that's still sinful! It's not just our actions that can be sinful, so can our desires. Sexual or otherwise. If I "desire" to kill somebody, that's sin. Even if I never carry it out. See what I'm sayin'? I can relate to you bro' in your struggle/desire for sexual intimacy with the same sex. And yeah, you're right. That desire is not chosen! Amen. But that doesn't change the fact that the desire isn't still sinful. And if people expect, or if someone with SSA expects to wake up one morning and have "lustful" sexual desire for the opposite sex, they're fooling themselves! LOL..Can GOD totally change someones desire for the same sex to sexual desire for the opposite sex? Absolutely! I've heard many testimonies to the fact! GOD is GOD! HE can do anything! He may not choose to do that for everybody obviously. But HE does do it for many! Whether people believe that or not! Anyway, just wanted to try and understand your position concerning "same gender lovin'" man. Appreciate your honesty bro'. GOD bless.

  • @moitaliaferro4994
    @moitaliaferro4994 11 месяцев назад

    Please Stop the Madness... everyone isn't Religious or Christian in the World!
    Stop pushing your False agenda or Hate on to others... Rent a Life!!! ✌🏽

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      Ok… everyone’s not gay…stop pushing it on me right?

    • @TheSparky777
      @TheSparky777 24 дня назад

      @@Kdubtru Gays aren’t the ones going around knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them. Religious people on the other hand…

  • @lilspongie44
    @lilspongie44 11 месяцев назад

    Those snaps, claps, and points that Brandon, the lady in red, and the guy who identifies as a gay Christian did annoyed me 😂😩

  • @Seekingchristdaily
    @Seekingchristdaily Год назад +2

    I acknowledge that some people were “born that way”.. but the Bible tells us to be born again.
    If God wanted us to stay the way we were born in the flesh then Jesus would’ve have said to be in the kingdom we have to be born again. That’s not to single out LGBTQ either… for we all have sinned and fallen short in our flesh. We ALL must repent.

  • @Tony-bf3tf
    @Tony-bf3tf 11 месяцев назад

    The bible does not say any of that garbage your talking about you have a problem with the LGBT people just say that

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      Sure it does. I literally read it

  • @erinknightingale251
    @erinknightingale251 Год назад +1

    I know you and many other grifters may profit off of selling people pipe dreams, but it is irresponsible to convince someone that they can control the "demon" that is homosexuality. They will struggle with those feelings into old age and can possibly get their partner and children involved in drama, but people like you will do anything for money in the name of your God.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +1

      telling ppl "you cant change, it's who you are" is the REAL grift. It's weird you saying im doing this money lol weird flex. Disagree, but don't make assumptions about my motivation.

    • @erinknightingale251
      @erinknightingale251 Год назад +1

      @@Kdubtru I don't profit from letting two consenting adults live their lives as they see fit. I'm a stranger without any internet presence. You directly profit from vulnerable people since you can convince them to follow your christian content for salvation from homosexuality, that's not an assumption at all.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад +1

      @@erinknightingale251 I gain 0 dollars on converts. You have no clue what you’re talking about… and are embarrassing yourself

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      @@erinknightingale251 how do I gain money from that? You’re being absurd

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад

      @painfulaches gay ppl have monetized channels too… this doesn’t help your point

  • @Chrissycolelive
    @Chrissycolelive Год назад +2

    As an ex-LGB delivered by Jesus this is something that intrigued that cult swears no one can be ex-gay but clearly they don’t truly know God is a deliverer and I don’t miss that lifestyle…. Great content!!!

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  Год назад

      amen!

    • @seekerhonest
      @seekerhonest 11 месяцев назад

      I hope for you that one day you will find a loving same sex partner, marry and maybe raise kids.

  • @plussizebarbie9484
    @plussizebarbie9484 Год назад

    sounds an awful lot like works salvation you’re peddling here. the gospel isn’t believe on Jesus + not be a homosexual. You need to repent (change your mind) about how someone is saved , and I recommend doing it sooner rather than later because time is absolutely running out.

    • @Kdubtru
      @Kdubtru  11 месяцев назад +1

      I’m confused to how you got this message by watching my video. I cited 1 Cor 6:9-11 that says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom. Do you agree with that? Or is that a works based salvation?