Mass Shooting Survivors vs NRA Members | Middle Ground
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Did Dylan say he was a two time mass shooting survivor?? Any shooting is horrible, imagine living through it twice
Agreed but I think that was Dylan
People do it everyday. Military,police, impoverished areas like Chicago
@@bootsontheground9998 Do you understand what shooting means ? Killing unarmed people. Police and military have guns. Chicago has a high crime state, not a shooting problem.
it was dylan
Absolutely horrific :( All my best wishes for him to have a smooth recovery ❤️😔
"If you take the safety part out, shooting is fun in general"
the most american thing i've ever heard
Its true but, there’s better ways of saying it
Ham and Cheese I just don’t think you should ever take the part out
M K it is fun though...
@M K so what.. Many thing are dangerous.. People are free and thats great.. Just should have better regulations concerning gun ownership...
@M K sky diving is dangerous, rollercoasters are dangerous, driving a car is dangerous, doesnt mean we outlaw the fun activities it can provide
Imagine a country where to feel safe going to the movies or supermarket you need to carry a gun because you're afraid of other people who have guns. It's actually hilarious
Not just guns. I’m scared of getting attacked by someone even if they had no weapons at all. It’s not that their scared of other peoples guns lol
@@erinnn5790 well if that's how you feel living in the US I really feel sorry for you. In my entire life I've never been worried about having a gun pulled on me or being shot. And I'll go hunting a couple of times a year with friends where we use rifles etc.
@@Both-Barracuda I don’t really worry about Guns being pulled out on me or being shot. More so being physically attacked (with no weapons), being kidnapped, or raped. If I had a gun, no crazy person would be able to lol
@@Both-Barracuda i didnt own a gun until the riots started. I drive through a major city for work, when the protests started i seen people being assualted in the streets and in their vehicles. I bought a gun to have while im on the road. Recently meth has been a growing issue in my community, so i got another one for the home. I have a family, im in the mountains, it could be a 5, 15, 25 minutes before police arrive and i may not have that kind of time to wait. On top of that we have bears so yea.
I carry a gun so I'm more likely to have the one up on someone else who threatens to harm me, myself or my property that Ive slaved to have. It's about preservation. Preservation of my life and it's associated happiness and comfort. Anyone that wants to try and take that should think twice. Anybody who would allow another person to take what they work hard for are losers in my opinion.
If you need to carry a gun around to feel safe you're probably living in the wrong country.
amen
It’s not a matter of feeling safe, it’s a matter of being safe. Security theatre like metal detectors, or gun laws are just illusions, and dangerous ones
So if your government decided that all of their constituents need to do this or that and came into your neighborhood and started taking your neighbors to do that by force what would you do?
@@tianamarie989 I didn't understand a word you wrote
@When The Heart Speaks idk why. I didn't misspell anything. 🤷♀️
How dare that lady ask the high school student "Don't you wish you could have done more?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
Exactly that felt so insensitive!! To a 17 year old who’s shooting was only 4 months ago?
i was so mad when she said that
People like her have a special place reserved in hell
I have a massive feeling that she was trying to "sell" the idea of guns to him, I have seen similar questions and tactics used before for this purpose. The next thing she would have asked would be something to the affect of "imagine if you hada gun too" or "do you wish that someone in the crowd had a gun to stop the shooter", I have seen it before.... it's sick tbh. It's what thay offen do, they play of "what if" in order to use a warped image of hindsight. "What if the shooter was not the only one with a gun?" This one is a fan favorite of theirs, it's like a broken record at this point.
Agreed, it felt incredibly insensitive...and being a gun owner doesn’t mean you support or are a member of the NRA.
I feel like at this point we just need a middleground that's just America VS The Rest of The World
Yes
This right here is what we need the most
We'd need more than one lol. We'd need one for every theme
@@niamha6079 you mean country?
Americans vs a Brit, a Canadian and an Aussie, sounds like a banging vid
I just LOATHE the “it’s a mental health issue” argument. People all over the world suffer from all kinds of mental health problems but gun violence is only an issue to this capacity in the US. The guns are almost always purchased legally. We don’t blame individual members of the NRA. We blame the organization for continuing the sales of these specific weapons.
Especially coming from republicans who vote against nearly every piece of mental health legislation.
majority of mentally i’ll people don’t want to take other peoples lives that’s what i don’t get
As someone from the US who suffers from mental health and grew up around guns,I've never once thought about picking up a gun,or any weapon,and hurt other people or myself. I want a gun for myself but would never hurt myself or others despite having suicidal ideation.
Iceland
or you could just stop blaming an inanimate object and take accountability for once
would love to see a conversation like this between people from different countries. as a singaporean, this entire conversation is actually insane because i’ve never ever seen an actual gun before in my whole entire life but i still feel extremely safe walking around alone at night
There you’re answer your not an American so worry about your country and stop sticking your nose into other country business. Because you egotistical clowns are gonna say “well my country has this” or “ban it because I’m offended”. So please sh*t up
I am an American born and raised. Growing up I was a supporter of Gun Control. There was a time when I believed that no one needed an AR-15 my Dad took me to the range and we shot his new AR. I then learned more about it and gun control's history the statistics and my opinion changed. I am a 2nd Amendment advocate for all not just citizens of the United States, but for everyone.
I heard that even pepper spray is banned in Singapore because it can also be used as a weapon.
I did know somewhat that Singapore is considered safe but not that safe. Which I think is cool and life is so much more enjoyable without the fear of getting shot everywhere at any given moment.
I am from Croatia and my country is pretty safe too. It was even named alongside Slovenia to be one of the safest places at night...especially for women, which is dope. And as a woman I can agree. I can walk in the middle of the night alone without fear...well the only thing I could be afraid of is the darkness itself xD
As a brazilian, I don't feel safe at all, even if it's illegal to own a gun in my country. Criminals still have them and there are still mass shootings at schools all the time.
People can't help but feel frustrated that bad guys can use them and all you can do is scream and run, or be really still and allow them to do whatever they want with you.
@@ivehaditidontcareanymore.6326 Excuse me, but what is "the range" you are referring to? Is it like a center for a firearm class? Tq
“Do you wish you could’ve done more?” Ma’am, I think he wishes that person just didn’t shoot up his goddamn school.
That's the type of question you should ask. Otherwise they'll never learn
@@dallaswilliams1002 learn what? There is nothing to learn , he is the victim
@@Tania-ex6ve learn that you don't have to be a victim
@@RealMcLovin Oh yes, because a victim chooses to be shot at, or knived, or robbed, or raped, or killed. Jesus fvcking Christ.
@@Kasiarzynka Now imagine if you had a gun in any of those situations.
Every time someone says, "teachers should be armed" I think about the time my 2nd grade teacher threw scissors across the room.
Ban scissors
For me , think about my one of my former first grade students who broke into my locked classroom during his lunch period (he thought the classroom was empty). I think about my colleagues who have had their locked closets broken into and money stolen out of their purses (all elementary school teachers btw). Have a gun in my classroom? Absolutely not. I have nothing against owning a gun but having it in the classroom is a liability I want nothing to do with.
I just think about a few of my older teachers..
Give them a gun and if they ever have to use it, two in the floor, one in the ceiling, three more somewhere down range and probably nowhere near the actual target.
Especially under immediate threat.
Its not a good idea.
These are educators not police.
Hell, cops don't even react well many times so obviously the training the U.S. currently requires is not adequate.
Introduction of firearms to all classrooms is a non-starter for me.
Arthur Pilgram - hard to say when it comes to armed police officers in schools. Personally, as an educator, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. That being said, I work in NYC in a title 1 school. Many of our students have extreme behavioral challenges. We also have a high population of special needs students. Furthermore, a large portion of our school community distrusts the police and it could wind up being a recipe for disaster if you get an officer who doesn’t know how to speak to children or their families. Even worse if the officer doesn’t know how to deal with special needs students or recognize the difference between rudeness and a manic episode. The officer would need to be someone friendly with a very small ego and excellent deescalation strategies, which can be difficult to come by and even more difficult to advertise for.
Edit: forgot to mention, as a parent myself, I would be 100% okay with an armed officer in my children’s school. But that’s just me and, for the sake of playing devil’s advocate, I know many families who feel differently.
It should be treated as a house gun locked up if it were to be a thing
As someone who doesnt live in the USA this conversation in insane
It’s insane for you because you’ve been accustomed to prefer security over freedom. Meaning you are accustomed of being controlled.
@@thevigilant6884 controled? what? in no other place on earth other than america are school shootings normalised, you guys there in america have a serious problem with guns, in my country, guns are only legal for people who need them for their jobs and everyone is doing fine without a gun, where does yalls obsession with guns come from?
@@thevigilant6884 and you are accustomed to children dying and making excuses for it. hush.
@a disappointment "Guns are cool and fun. They represent power. Gov't trying to take our firearms. This is the USA! USA! Better than every country on the planet. We are freedom, and it cant exist anywhere else."
Not me saying this btw. Welcome to USA America.
@@jazminsmith6343 Yeah, I'm quite unapolegetically insensitive
When he said he lost 8 friends that day it really hit my emotions… heart wrenching 😔😔😔😔
why would she say “shooting is fun” in front of a group of people who were in and have lost people to mass shooting
Definitely a bad choice of words but she isint wrong
She should read the room a little better but, objectively, she isn't wrong.
Because shooting is fun
Right
@@juliaryan6657 it’s a lot of fun
Mental illness is a global issue, but the number of mass shootings are unique to the US.
The right to own a gun is also unique to the us
@@_tuss1731 no its not. canada and switzerland has a high number of gun owners its completely legal there to own almost every kind of gun you can in america. the difference between these countries and america is they make it harder for the gun to get into the wrong hands and don't idolize guns like americans. there's a way to allow your law abiding citizens to have guns to defend themselves and not let every psychopath have easy access to them as well.
@@punology6829 I think there's also a difference in the mentality between the US and Switzerland for example. Europeans aren't obsessed with guns and therefore just a few actually own one.
punology ah no no no, I said the RIGHT to own a gun not the legality of it. Many countries you are legally allowed to own a gun but ONLY in the US is it a RIGHT.
William Maddux and so? It used to be a right to owned slaves but you changed that. Frankly it just feel like a big excuse to say that you have those guns to defend yourself or because it’s a right when in reality its seems pretty obvious even from this video that people just wants to keep guns especially assault rifles because they like them.
That kid in the grey sweater is an absolute Chad. He understood that both sides have reson, was honest with his biases, and took action to protect his classmates while also keeping tabs on the situation.
If my job offered to train me and allow me to carry a gun, I would
If I was involved in 2 mass shootings, I’m not leaving the house.
And, essentially he lost nine people close to him.
That's devastating.
Yeah that man is more brave than I could ever be.
Ong
Unfortunately, you have to. You can't let fear keep you from living your life or you aren't really living it at all.
@@laceface1069 Definitely, and Im sure it will take years (if ever) to fully recover from that
“we don’t own guns because we like to shoot things” proceeds to talk about how fun shooting is
KamekoBruns maybe don’t be so rude. what she said is confusing and insensitive, especially in front of mass shooting survivors.
KamekoBruns You clearly missed the point
Make it make sense
KamekoBruns that makes no sense
@KamekoBruns that doesn't make sense
Big props to those survivors for be willing to participate in this video. I don't know if I could stand some of the behavior or things that were said in the moment.
who cares guns arent going anywhere
If you noticed some of the survivors still use firearms. so what is your point?
You woulda sat there silent like the terrified chump you are
What "behaviour"?
as a norwegian these conversations are absolutely insane
Same
Swede and agree
As a German as well. It's crazy.
same here as a Dane :D
I’m American and it’s odd even to me, a veteran.
It’s ironic how the “Black Guns Matter Guy” says that nearly anyone watching has probably lost someone due to a mass shooting whilst probably barely any of the European viewers can relate to that.
My thoughts exactly! Either he doesn't know how many non-Americans watch Jubilee's videos, or he's just kinda living in his little US-centric bubble.
Yeah I immediately came to the comments when he said that. Here in Belgium (and in most of the European countries), the number of gun related deaths is around 10 times smaller per 100,000 inhabitants!
stilldownwiththemutantunderground I thought about mentioning this concept of an “American bubble” too. How exciting that you came to the same conclusion and finished my comment in that sense :D
Totally correct. There is a lot of this I can’t relate to. Our country has never had a mass shooting.
This is crazy! I literally can't believe that these things are true for Americans! I know (rationally) that it is a thing but I still find it unbelievable!
The fact that women was laughing and said that shooting gun is fun beside mass shooting survivors especially the one who survived twice is mind boggling
They're NRA members, what did you expect, really.
Yes that was a little insensitive. You have your right to think whatever you want but it was inconsiderate in this particular scenario..
And around the guy who lost someone due to a gun accident, like......
Timestamp plzz?
@@Vuyo12 8:20
Gotta love living in a country that loves guns more than our children.
Nah we love kids, especially Biden
Like abortion?
Gotta love an American (?) who actually gets what's going on in their country!
we love kids we offer solutions need up the security in schools my previous job had better security than schools and we just processed used cell phones and the whole argument we cant afford it is false when we just sent 30 billion to ukraine you guys dont want solutions you guys just have a anti american agenda
The people who are against having armed security in schools are the ones who clearly do not care about children. Putting “gun free zone” sings up by schools as if that doesn’t shout out to every possible threat “soft targets here”. These some people don’t bay an a eye when there favorite celebrity had armed security but the second we try to protect children they take issue, if that’s not pure evil I don’t know what is
This is so heartbreaking to see. The survivors are all shaken, just trying to manage day to day life after this traumatic event. NRA members manipulating them, and trashing them over these things is disgusting. Lost any ounce of respect I had for this group of people.
Heather bothered me
What they say that’s so bad?😭
Ppl civilly debating and pointing out hard truths about reality
"You're trashing them!"
Lol
@@prodigygaming5102 truth
@@CrankyBarista Hard truths like "me like guns" and doing nothing seriously to help
Portraying the teachers as potential bodyguards for children just seems so absurd to me.
I mean I don't think it should be that absurd. They are adults in a school full of children, those children are their responsibility, they should be able to protect those children just in case a WCS happens. Whether that be a natural disaster, shooting, or even a simple fight
Blank it is though, teachers are there to teach not to shoot down intruders. In my state we have at least one bodyguard at all of our schools so they are the ones who need to protect. Bodyguards and Teachers are two entirely different job titles and unless someone is teaching you about defense the two should never correlate.
Blank it’s a lil absurd schools would either have to pay for the firearms and ammunition or have the teachers buy it themselves and schools are constantly loosing funding id say a better idea is to just have armed guards or police officers on campus rather then have teachers be armed
Blank we can’t even trust our police officers being their job to protect our communities how we suppose to trust teachers whose job is to teach n deal w kids all day. tbh some teachers cant even deal w their emotions from marriage, kids, family. srry love my teachers but its just facts srry ☹️
Gabrielle Hudson exactly fully support u. 😆 like how we suppose to trust teachers when we can’t even trust the police to protect all people of all races religions n backgrounds?
I like how they can acknowledge that there's a mass shooting every weekend, but won't acknowledge there's a problem.
Because its not the guns waking up and killing people everyday, its gang members you dope head, and they're totally gonna follow all of your gun laws.
Ren Abshire if you ban guns there wouldn’t be mass shot rings and gun problems so just remove the guns tf
@@aldaniangdesancho60 thats actually way tf wrong. If you take guns out of the mix people won't be able to protect themselves and homicides will probably skyrocket because people WONT BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELF OR THEIR PROPERTY FROM people who WILL get guns. People act like making guns illegal will stop gun violence. If people want a gun, they will get a damn gun
@@Lvna1 america is the only place in the world where mass shootings are so common, and one of the only places where you can easily get guns. i see a connection here.
@@renabshire4704 Funny enough most school mass shooters are just suburban boys
That was an incredibly frustrating conversation, and I have a little less hope that change can come.
yes, I agree. it's sad that things like nukes, rocket launchers, machine guns etc. are illegal in the US. hopefully one day that will change.
@@MegaVega2007Come and take mine.
Legalize canons!
lmao at 16:22 jubilee putting the statistics on the screen to directly point out the ridiculousness of heather's argument is so funny
The homicide rate in California is still 500% higher and in Illinois it’s 900% higher than New Hampshire. Jubilee shared only population numbers, not per capita deaths, which are the numbers that compare apples to apples.
I hate statistics in online videos. They're always limited in what they can show and are picked specifically to promote the agenda of one side or the other. You can prove statistically that the US having more guns makes for more gun violence (more shootings in US than elsewhere)(this can also be debated as most places that are considered to have more gun violence dont track it like the US does) while simultaneously showing that banning guns yields more gun violence (Chicago, DC, NYC having overwhelmingly more shootings than anywhere else without gun restrictions) Don't assume stats prove the point for either side. They're just supporting evidence and often manipulative.
"There's no truck regulation"
You are literally legally required to register any vehicle you own...
Same with guns
Lol so felons aren’t allowed to own trucks?
Is driving a constitutionally protected right?
@@danielshayder8875 Interesting point! The point of my comment was to dispel a wildly inaccurate statement made in the video
Because dont compare guns and trucks! Ask jim adler.
Bruh wtf only one person stepped forward for "it should be harder to buy a gun"?????
Right lmao. I support the second amendment but you gotta be more thorough with the background checks and getting illegal guns out of circulation. How few people agreed was a bit disheartening
How could you make it harder?
Most people that buy guns from a gun store, private owner or gun show usually are not trying to get a ghost gun to go shoot up the local market.
And zip guns are made every day inside max security prisons. They aren't pretty, but a lot of them work just fine.
Take some time and think what someone on the outside could do with a small milling machine or 3D printer.
They would be millionaires the day after guns are over regulated or outlawed.
True gunsmithing is an art, but you don't have to be an artist to make functioning weapons of ANY type.
And if you're not skilled enough to produce your own or just don't want to take the time do so, you can always go down to the corner and buy a hot gun.
The point is that it's nearly impossible to try to regulate something that you can make in your basement.
And criminals will forever do bad things regardless the law.
Making it harder for people to defend themselves, and possibly others, would be a bad joke on every lawful gun owner.
Don't fear the gun. Fear the azzwhole holding it.
Araceli From Wii sports club
“I support the second amendment”
*wants to infringe the second amendment*
Jimmy C it’s literally just have more mental health studies, heavier background checks and yearly inspections/shooting classes. It’s actually not that hard. People just don’t wanna think hard enough. In most places you can just walk in and get a gun that day, the point is to not make it THAT easy. You have to have your mental health tested, have your background checked thoroughly and do the yearly checkup just like we do with drivers license. Most people would have to wait would be a week.
Lina Aviles having another person decide wether you’re mentally fit to own a gun is a big no no
Heather is the perfect example of what’s wrong with a lot of gun owners, she’s one of those people who would cover say she doesn’t see gun violence as she’s covering her eyes with her hands, she’s doesn’t see any issues because she doesn’t want to
Bc she's highlighting the gaps in gun control?
She was so infuriating to listen too especially when she asked why the media highlights/chooses the mass shootings to cover. MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN IN PLACES WE FEEL SAFEST?????
She highlighted the issue that gun-free zones are easy targets. She also highlighted the amount of mass shootings that occur in Chicago just over a single weekend. She's not covering her eyes, you are.
She wasnt giving opinions. She was giving talking points. It sounded like she didnt think her opinion through and just regurgitates what she had heard.
The others gave thought behind their opinion without giving "gun free zone" talking point or "the media" talking point.
@@FromTheAshes0762 so, you like feelings over facts then?
As a Canadian I cannot believe what comes out of Heathers mouth
Heather reminds me of women in half of America. She's not atypical.
She profits off of people owning guns, since she teaches them for a living.. what did you expect? Typical greed.
Crime in general happens mostly in large cities. Canada has I think three large cities - so not a lot of crime to consider. The USA has hundreds of large cities. When comparing large cities where the victims are disarmed (Chicago) with large cities where the victims are allowed to arm themselves (Houston) - you are safer where criminals are worried that their victim may be armed. Heather understands this reality - and so she is happy when people she knows takes measures to be safer.
Wouldn't it make you happy to find out that a friend who hates seat belts finally tells you they changed their mind and will wear theirs from now on?
You’re Canadian, you don’t know what freedom means, of course you don’t understand.
As a non-American, the gun culture is crazy to me. It seemed like they were almost all pro-gun. Even the mass shooting victims.
Merica'!
I am an American and I definitely agree. I also think that the people chosen for this video all seemed more pro-gun then many survivors are
@@avaginsberg3871 many survivors want to abolish guns so that the shooting is less likely to happen. But others want their own, to "equalize" the scenario, so that they aren't helpless. And, truth be told, choosing not to purchase a gun for self defense isn't going to be too influential so why not feel more in control? I feel it's an accurate depiction of the spectrum of shooting survivors.
Me too!
As a non American I came out with a conclusion that white NRA supporters want their guns to protectect themselves from black NRA supporters and vice versa
Hayden’s point about how he doesn’t think a teacher would be able to shoot one of their own students is so powerful and something I really had not thought of before
Yeah true. Good level of empathy
This is my point of view as well. I have talked to people about the inability of a teacher to end the life of a student when their whole purpose is to help the students create a great life. Im glad he said it because it is a great point and I was worried it would be missed.
There are teachers unfortunately that violate the trust students have in them.
elizabeth he has to mature quickly after being involved in such trauma.
Yeah but it's a fallacy, the personal incredulity fallacy. Honestly, arming teachers just creates more problems than it solves. You have to train them, ensure that the guns are safely put away, do background screening, etc. Also, there's also the fact that even trained policer often have troubles identifying the suspect in these shooting.
I'm so glad that everyone was respectful and open in this discussion.
Super well done by Jubilee and everyone who was included. I really appreciated hearing from survivors. So sad to hear what they have gon through. Grateful they are speaking up.
Thé sad part is that my first thought was “woah how could they so easily find mass shooting survivors” and then I remembered this is America...
This comment made me sad. But your right
r/im14andthisisdeep
I had to replay that back at 2:49 ....did he just say he was a *two time* mass shooting survivor...as in he’s been in those situations TWICE?! I really hope not 😥
@@ahsokaincognito that's not how those subreddits work...
@@pinger83 I don't think this is the right time pal...
Why do people use “they could have used a knife” as an excuse? You’re saying killing 10 people with a knife is just as easy as using a gun? I don’t understand why that’s even brought up
They don't want restrictions on their precious guns. They even have the AUDACITY to say there isn't a gun violence problem in America but a mental health problem. In 2019 alone, there were 366 mass shootings in America. Now compare that to Countries that banned or have very STRICT gun laws and see the statistics for yourself. The problem is CLEAR as day and people need to understand that
For me I feel like if someone would of used a knife they would of killed less people not just because physically. Stabbing someone is way more personal and u have blood on ur hands then just watching someone collapse from a bullet
SouthEast Dusty but with knife crime not as many people are affected because you have to get in close proximity to the victim, yes attacks do happen but not to the extent that shootings do
@@cabdirahman9000
Can I have your sources please? I want to see where you got this information.
@@maddie297 knife crime happens a lot more than you think and it can get to a mass shooting degree of violence, in england it's one of our biggest problems along with acid attacks. there are other places in the world other than america and a blanket statement such as that cant be used in this context.
"Speak your truth, brother" is one of the most wholesome, smile-on-my-face comments I've heard on this show.
Something we really need to see more of, all around
I’ve watched several of these episodes now and I have to say, this is a fantastic series. I feel that you guys do a great job keeping these heated topics very civil. Of course I don’t see the editing process but it seems as if you guys do a great job of fairly representing the opposite views. Great work guys. Keep it up. Awesome videos.
Not living in the US and hearing them say that everybody knows someone that has experience something related to gun violence... NO, absolutely no, and that's the problem, normalizing something that shouldn't be and isn't normal at all in other countries.
Yeah agreed. Weird how everybody had a connection to guns. I’m from the US (a liberal part but still) and I don’t know anybody that has a gun.
Caroline Love you do you just don’t know that they have one, unless you’re living in Commiefornia.
Caroline Love same, only people that i know of that own guns are actual hunters
@@carrielee1624 Most people who own firearms in a hyper liberal area wont tell you. Unless you're a part of that community or show interest will they show themselves.
Do you know anyone who has been sexually assaulted or abused? is it normalized if most people say yes? If you're going to apply one form a logic, make sure its compatible with the rest. Otherwise you're left with intellectual dishonesty.
“It should be harder to buy a gun”
*Rest of the world steps forward*
you need more likes!
Its already pretty hard as it is. People have this misconception where you just walk in put a few AR-15s in grocery bags and self check out.
Skerion you can literally buy semi automatic rifles AT WALMART
@@cheyenne2189 Only if you pass the standard gun background check. Which includes checking if your a felon, if you are adjudicated mentally or have been committed to a mental institution, if you have been addicted to certain drugs or substances, you also have to have a certificate that says you have completed basic gun safety classes and the list goes on. Even if you buying from Walmart its not that easy.
Skerion obviously background checks aren’t hard enough to past because gun violence still keeps happening
If it was harder/impossible to get a gun, then maybe we wouldn't need so many guns to defend against other guns.
False, criminals don't follow the law and will still obtain them, therefore leaving law abiding citizens helpless, specially for those that don't live in major towns.
@@richardcannon6227 and that’s exactly what happens in other countries and the rate of gun violence is still lower it’s kinda common sense to make them harder to get
@@richardcannon6227 they wouldn't be helpless, as long as they follow the correct regulations and protocols that allow for them to obtain a gun then they will have their own protection. not every person deserves to have a gun, and implementing some sort of control limits possible mass shootings and separate incidents to a degree.
@Shaniya Straight we already have that set in place! If you don't know this, then that means you've never purchased a firearm before. Educate yourself.
@@richardcannon6227 obviously we already have regulations set in place. i don’t have to own or buy a gun to know this. it’s pretty much common sense. i’m saying there needs to be MORE restriction. while background checks are held up to standard by law, mental health reporting laws vary from state to state, and this is one of the many loop holes where a gun can end up in the wrong hands. and yes guns can be obtained illegally and will continue to do so, but our government and we as the citizens of this country need to continue to add these restrictions bcuz one less gun in the wrong hands will end up saving many lives.
Ugh. .. I don't know if I'm ready for this... it's so painful even the first part just makes me want to cry.
What has happened to our country? I'm troubled that people will defend guns over people over human lives. It's the persistent devaluation of life. It really hurts.
What infuriates me the most when those poor kids are attacked and accused of falsified information after having been traumatized
Banning guns doesn't stop violence. The reason why 2nd Amendment advocates like me tell people to arm themselves is because we want every law-abiding citizen to be able to use the most effective tool to protect themselves. Even if there were no guns whatsoever within America, violence would still exist. The UK still has violent crime, the criminals use knives and it is an extreme problem there. According to the CDC there are approximately 500,000 to as high as 3,000,000 self defense uses with a firearm within the United States. The majority of mass shootings happen in gun free zones. The attackers specifically target gun free zones knowing that it is likely that no one will have a gun to stop them. We already had an "Assault Weapons" ban from 1994-2004 it had a sunshine clause in which the DOJ concluded that the ban had no effect on stopping gun violence.
Guns are designed to attack AND defend human life. Double edge sword like many things in life unfortunately.
Thankfully have a couple of firearm' to protect me from danger. If I got robbed it was being burglarized I would have something to protect me with instead of just waiting for the police while the suspect is already gone. Plus I live to see you or take my guns away if so have knives too
You know what bothers me? You’re willing to do away with inantimate instruments that have been around for eternity, and only recently has this ever been a problem of this magnitude. But the solution is…emotional knee jerk sentiment.
@@thedewdster there have been roughly 300 school shootings in the US this YEAR alone, it shouldn’t be happening. You’re allowed to access guns way too easily
Dylan has a sadness in his voice. I can only hope that he gets over his hurt.
The shake in his voice just shows how much he’s been through. I just want to give him a hug😔
Remember that we do not get over things- we work through them. I too hope that Dylan works through what he has experienced and knows that he has purpose and insight.
@@christinamarsh5388 I totally agree.
i can’t even imagine the trauma he faces with surviving two mass shootings. i honestly don’t even think that’s something a person can get “over” really, especially knowing it can happen again by just going out in public :(
it will take time and work for his situation to better. he may never even ‘get over it’ completely. but yes, hopefully he has gotten help that has been helped it get as better as possible.
"teachers should be armed" yall didnt hear about the teacher who barricaded his classroom and opened fire on his students??? absolutely not. no.
WHAT WHEN WHERE
@@harrisonkey698 I heard about it like 2 yrs ago
@Harmony SAME. It could be a teacher who is so well descripted but we never know their intention. Who knows? If no other student is armed and there’s only a teacher who one, it’s officially scary to say the most.
So that entire policy is now off the table because of one singular mentally unstable teacher?????
@Harmony Like usual safety over liberty.
When Heather was talking around 7:52, about getting a text from women saying, "guess what I just bought today!" that statement in and of itself is concerning. In the US you can get a gun the same day with no background checks, no reference checks, no psych evaluations nothing!! Small arms took a minute to two minutes to reload in the 18th century. Guns have changed since then, and the laws should be amended to protect children, schools, clubs, supermarkets, churches, and so on. Doing a simple background check, psych evaluation, and having a small waiting period to obtain a gun in my opinion should be necessary and I wonder how other people feel about this.
you 100% have a background check anytime you buy a gun, no matter where you are. if you’re clean, it takes about 20 minutes. the only time there’s no wait time is when you have a concealed carry permit but even then, you get your background check ran, you just bypass the waiting period. background check also includes pysch eval
Wow your ignorance is showing badly. Everything you claim the us should have ( background checks pshyc evaluation and a waiting period) IS LITERALLY ALREADY IN PLACE 🤦
Its obvious you have never tried to purchase a firearm and literally have ZERO knowledge on what you're talking about.
When I bought my first gun I had to wait almost three weeks to go pick it up after my background check
@@spellicup5286how annoying waiting three weeks ugh what a trek 🤣😂😂
As a teacher, I find this conversation so wild. I could never fathom the idea of guns in my school. Thankfully, I don't live in America
We are thankful you don't either
I am thankful you don't live here either!
You just had to add in that last bit, didn't you.
@@novatare yes, yes i did
jc most american comment section ever
ahmed isn't even insulting yalls country y do u guys immediately take it personally
as a european this is so strange
As a Canadian, I completely agree. I'm amazed that they think they need a gun to be safe and how "normal" it is for them to own guns.
Tary1894 idk if it’s just me but when I travel to the us I don’t feel safe ever knowing that anyone can have a gun
I know right! It's absolutely terrifying 😔
it's scary🥺 I'm in the usa and I think that we need change. I'm so terrified
same i hate it
“You don’t hear truck reform” yeah because trucks aren’t a weapon and aren’t meant to harm people... guns literal purpose is to harm, whether or not it’s animals or humans.
Also truck reform has already happened! People need to get a licence to drive a vehicle.
Honestly when she said that it really pissed me of, you never see as many intentional truck violence cases in Europe as you do gun violence cases in the US
@@angusobrien2489 100%, they just take any statistic as an excuse to defend their "freedom"
Guns’ main purpose are for defense. Sorry, the real world isn’t a utopia. People buy guns in the masses to keep themselves and their families safe. If you make it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy guns legally, less law-abiding citizens buy guns to defend themselves, and criminals continue to buy off the black market
@@clalyrics441 honestly, before I was skeptical about the 2nd amendment, but in the last few years radical democrats convinced me of the right to self defense and bear arms.
Best group of people I’ve seen yet on this channel. They all had valid points and spoke so eloquently. So sorry to all the victims.
I remember someone in my school having a hit list and finding out from him I wasn't on it because I was nice to him.
I do know though that not everyone planning to hurt people will stop if shown kindness.
As someone who does experience mental health issues, I would love for mental health to be less stigmatized and discussed. I do not believe though that would solve all these issues like mass shootings, but I am hopeful that it could help in some capacity.
I am also aware there are other factors involved in a variety of situations, but I just wanted to touch on the mental health aspect that was discussed.
Heather doesn't think America has a mass shooting problem.
Also Heather "There are mass shootings every weekend"
As a person who lives in Chicago Heather is being slightly inaccurate. There are shootings on the weekends (unfortunately), but they are not mass shootings. Plus I don't care for her throwing poor community under the bus to make her point. And before u disagree watch that segment again, its implied.
@Carlos Owens there is no reason to own a gun
@@slickway5590 Why do you believe that?
Zephyr FN I think I’d say because the general attitude is “they have a gun so I need a gun to protect myself”. This just makes a big gun chain
Carlos Owens How can you say that that is not that bad!! The fact that even one person has to die because of mass shootings in America is bad and it won’t be bad until the number is zero
They should do a segment called "questions the rest of the world wants to ask the United States". That would be sooo interesting!
Oscar it’s called questions so they can see our side of it
I would want to see that if it was focused on specific political groups and the US government but I don’t want it to end up generalizing all americans
@T K but why? Who cares what we Americans have to say? Why does it matter that other people can ask us questions or not? I dont see a point to it whatsoever
Oscar the point is exactly that the societies in other countries is extremely different. I think it would be interesting to see if some of the Scandinavian ways could give another perspective on this topic when compared to America. I also think people (like myself), from a non-violent country, with no sight of a gun, have a lot to say - that could add to the topic. And yes, the show is “based on America’s social phenomena” but it is viewed by subscribers all over the world and this could increase the number of viewing countries even more.
@Oscar It's about introspection. It is essential to see yourself in a way you probably hadn't considered before, hear how other people do things, to be able to evaluate yourself. The way others perceive us can tell us a lot about ourselves. I think not wanting to self-evaluate and not wanting to expand their worldview are honestly the biggest flaws Americans have.
This was a level headed convo but everyone was so concerned with stepping on each other's toes It seemed people weren't fully truthful with how they felt.
I am very pro gun, and teachers should 100% ABSOLUTELY NOT CARRY GUNS IN SCHOOL. NO. That is terrifying. Hire armed security guards- NOT TEACHERS.
Do YOU carry a gun for your protection? Why then shouldn't teachers be allowed to carry while at work? There are several states that already allow this - Texas has allowed it for over ten years. There have been no problems at the schools that have chosen to allow teachers to get the training and carry at school. (sadly, Uvalde still wants to rely only upon 911 for problems)
As a non-American, I will never understand the deep connection some Americans have with their guns.
Its not so much the gun as it is the right to own the gun. If one amendment is jeopardized then every other amendment has lost its barrier and everything the constitution stands for is at risk of being changed or damaged. Like a flood gate, if one falls, the entire thing is going to come down.
look man, I even I who, an American who has owned a gun and then returned it, does not understand the connection some Americans have with their guns.
@@c.j2138 the word "amendment" specifically means change. Our Founding Fathers created the Cosntitution with the knowledge that it was imperfect... that is why we have amendments. No where did the men who wrote that document assume it was perfect... they designed it to change as it needed to for the continuation of our society. I feel people who don't see that only have a very basic understanding of history and our government.
@@robtheeducator8230 and in order to change that you need 2/3rds of states and/or 2/3rds of both houses of congress. But you never try starting there so...
You will once you realize the police are corrupt and won't protect you, and that gun control has historically been done for racist reasons
“United States does not have a mass shooting problem”
Yes, and the sun is made of orange juice
You're putting that in bad context
Exactly!!
Then explain Sunny D????
@Bineet Roy take a look
Lmao I love this comment
Teacher gonna need to make tripple if you expect them to carry
That doesn't even make any sense
This was a much more civil discussion than I was expecting.
I wish this video would have included AT LEAST one person who doesn’t support guns.
Yeah, exactly. For me it’d be interesting to see the same topic but (for example) americans vs europeans (not necessarily with mass shooting survivors or nra members.)
Nicolaus Volentius I get where you're coming from but isn't that a bit unsustainable?
And sorry if you had to go through tough situations! It must be horrible being in sort of a constant fear :(
I agree. I would’ve liked to see both sides
It’s interesting to see that people who have survived mass shootings support guns though is it not?
That's probably why they never aired it, but they need something to show during COVID.
*Stays standing for ‘I don’t think there’s a mass shooting problem’*
*Sits down for ‘I think teachers should carry guns’*
Why would teachers need to carry guns if there wasn’t a problem with mass shootings also within schools?
Do you know why schools are often the targets of shootings? It’s because the shooters know the security in schools is awful. It’s not difficult to understand, but the sad part is that few people think about that
@@datsko6339 That's not how it works.
Datsko right... and you know this because you’ve thought this out yourself or? ...
Yes it makes perfect sense, let’s throw more guns into the mix and allow pupils and teachers to have them. *Everyone’s* safer now because *everyone* has one...
Yeah I don’t think it works like that either.
No it’s not hard to understand, it’s the first thing you would assume and then with some critical thinking you’d understand that mass shootings are ultimately suicide missions.
So what do they care if someone is able to pull a gun back on them? They know going into it they will most likely end up dead or failing that behind bars for life anyway.
They would still do it regardless, they have a death wish to begin with but putting more guns in schools when it just takes one to ruin countless lives is a pretty weak argument and actually a recipe for even worse than what one unhinged person could do.
To punish children
As a right to protect themselves and their students.
Thank goodness our founding fathers had the sense to put the 2A in the Constitution.
Hayden is an angel for thinking about how to make others feel safe in an unsafe situation
“If everyone has a gun then their would be no mass shooting” - America
Big Brain America
America is really going down now .
Gun violence ,racial discrimination, economic loss .....I don't know why ? Isn't America supposed to be am example for other countries
funny how you are making fun of america for gun violence when you don't live here
i’m so embarrassed for us😔
Statistics show areas with lax gun laws have lower crime rates. It's fact.
@@arldsouza8463 Gun violence isn't comparable to mass shootings. Gun violence includes gang violence, which is considered a social and economic issue, versus mass shootings, which are generally considered a mental health issue. Racial discrimination does not statistically exist, unless you in Affirmative Action, which actively discriminates based on race, affecting Asians most negatively. The current economic loss is due to the pandemic, unemployment numbers were the lowest they had ever been.
The fact that not everyone sat down when they said America has a mass shooting problem.😳
I know!!
Right! I mean sure, it is caused by mental health problems and all that, but you can't always go straight to the root of the problem. Why not attack the issue on all fronts? Improve health care and education while limiting guns at the same time.
USA is so weird.....
@T K He's saying it's not a problem. If we look at things like that, why not say we have a drowning problem, an Alligator problem, a car crash problem.
@@kpnomore8626 not really
That dude in the gray sweatshirt is actually admirable, considering what he's been through.
I love how he isn't anti-gun after all that. So many people would hop on that band wagon these days. Nice to see him seeing it from a healthier perspective.
As a Canadian I feel just as free and safe without being able to constantly carry and buy a gun
Those who sacrifice freedom for a little bit of safety will get neither freedom nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin.
Your country no longer has freedom of speech and is currently engaging in forcibly reeducation to anyone who speaks ill against current political leaders. You're also no longer allowed to protest certain things and can get jailed and fined even if you do it peaceably. Sadly though America isn't too far behind ya, especially if they succeed in slowly making it harder and harder to have a gun until no one does. Then the government is really unrestrained in what it can do since the citizens are defenseless.
Our founding father's realized that the greatest threat to loss of life and liberty will ALWAYS be the government, not solitary psychopaths. And the reason we have so many mass shootings is because of the other side forcing places to be gun free zones which is where 98% of all mass shootings happen. Their policies are what is causing the issues in the first place.
There’s also more people in the state of California than there is in the entirety of Canada. It’s a numbers thing. More people=more danger.
@@rachelnaisbett403it's not freedom to own a gun
@@Mole-Esther We must have very different definitions of what constitutes as freedom. How do you define freedom?
@@rachelnaisbett403 You've got some weird sources, cause that ain't the reality up north. This narrative you're spinning only exist in your echo chambers.
All I hear is: "I need a gun to protect myself from others with guns."
And others with knives, bats, fists, etc.
exactly. taking guns away will only take them away from the people who use them responsibly. you think the shooters care about the law when they are killing people
Everyone agrees with your statement unironically. It's just a question of who wields the gun in defense. The government? The military? The police? Yourself? Don't act all high and mighty because you prefer to delegate the wielding of guns in self defense to someone else. How can you delegate a right to a governing body that you don't even possess yourself?
@@snakyjake9 I trust people with excessive training more than a random off the street with access to a gun.
@@aw8951 thank you I’m sick of these anti police and anti military dumbasses
"Teachers should be armed..."
As a non-american student, the fact that this was even CONSIDERED absolutely terrified me.
It's not our job to provide you the education on guns that you willingly deprive yourself of by never doing any research.
Why? If you had a teacher that was ex-military, or had the training of such, would it be bad? Most mass shootings happen in gun free zones.
sneaky stepdad honestly I can’t think of any of my teachers having the will to shoot one of their own students. Probably 90% teachers would not be able to shoot someone they have taught and known.
I carry and I teach. I promise with everything that is in me that if I am EVER in a classroom and a shooting takes place I will die for your kid. I will be a human shield for each and every student, BUT if I could I would like to live too. Missouri has armed teachers, it has never had a school shooting. I would like a chance, as a human I feel I deserve a chance.
i'm american and decently pro gun i suppose but i don't trust my teachers with any firearms
I am just loving this conversation and dialogue🙂 very well spoken people
if you say "it's a mental health problem" you HAVE to agree that we need free healthcare. Otherwise, you're just saying it to say it.
How tf do the two correlate? lol Imagine having to wait MONTHS to get help for your mental health because your healthcare is free 🤦🏽♀️
Also mental healthcare is not the same as needing a major surgery. Ya'll love to cite the whole "bUt iT TAkEs a LoNg TiMe iN cOuNtRieS liKE CaNadA" - failing to realize it's 2023 and i can talk to a therapist on my phone. It's not the same as needing a major surgery or something
Damn that guy who's been through two shootings. I can't even imagine the amount of pain he's experienced. I hope he's doing ok. That's extremely terrifying.
he needs a hug
@@kingace6186 yo mama!
@@SaulTNuts-km4vs how old are you?
@@Geck_Gxng 9 why
Lol, imagine growing up in the hood
I would honestly love to see a pro-masker and anti-masker discussion video.
@Catharsis the whole and trump says is completely uncalled for i see more anti maskers at blm rallies than any trump rally
Johnny5's Don’t wanna be rude but proof? Do you have a vid or something comparing the two?
Would be funny if the antimaskers say masks suffocate people and the 3 pro maskers start wearing masks.
@Catharsis natural selection will take care of the anti-maskers
Mask prevent the spread, not the chance of get covid.
the thought of my teacher having a gun in class is… I just can’t even imagine it, to even reach the point where you’d defend that is mind blowing
Sorry to hear about the horror stories. Great conversation and thanks for sharing
imagine looking at someone who survived a mass shooting and talking about how fun it is to shoot
Yea that was so disrespectful. Like that was not ok
I’d tell them go to Europe or uk and not get stabbed up
It's called contexted my friend they were talking about going down to the range and shooting but i understand where you're coming from
Please, continue being offended for them, because they clearly weren't.
Most adults can handle the truth .
I hate the mentality of "if someone was nicer to the shooter he may not have done it".
1. That's victim blaming
2. Improving Mental Health is more than just being nicer to people.
I think that perspective. It’s true but I would say that it can help. I think it a lot more complex. I think of it as a cause and effect. There so many factors that would come of it. I think people bring it up because they feel like at one point their mental health should not have gone to that state that they would do something horrific. Also people want to have a reason to understand how something like this could have happen.
how's that victim-blaming? most school shooters have been bullied, it doesn't justify it, however in a lot of scenarios a lot could have been done by the person's community that would have prevented it. it's just the truth.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@katinkaaa2951 it’s victims blaming because most of the time the victims don’t even know who the shooter is or what their reason is. It just implies that it’s the victims job to be nice to stop shootings when in reality mental health is so much more than that. And I know it’s not what they mean but no ones deserves to die just because they didn’t know it was someone’s birthday.
It’s the truth. You’re ignoring it
Not nearly enough credit is being given to all these individuals for having the ability to take from each other’s perspectives, relate to each other, and actually find common ground despite having different life experiences involving guns. Props to literally all of the people in this video.
Problem is the conversation was Pro Gun vs Victims, and not Pro-Gun vs Anti-Gun. They're tangently related, but it just turned into a pro-gun discussion, which is probably different than what people expected.
@@mendo1522 that’s fair. Perhaps they will do Pro Gun Vs Anti Gun in the future if they haven’t already. I watch a lot of these and sometimes the people featured are just there to demonize the other side, but it’s refreshing to get the episodes where real common ground is discovered and disagreements are kept informative and respectful
@mendo1522 you can't have a proper pro gun and anti gun debate because the dumbshits who are anti gun know zero about firearms to begin with. 99% of them believe that the ar 15 is an "assault" weapon.
I love that the show feels the need to “context check” the pro gun people but let the opinions of the other side go without a second glance. So much for “middle ground.”
this video should be titled “pro-gun NRA members vs pro-gun mass shooting survivors”
lmaoo frrr😭😭
yea super disappointed there wasn't a single anti-gun person featured
100%
not really middle ground...
I would say that it was a pretty good representation of the views of Americans. They could have had 1 anti gun person but there aren't very many Americans who want to abolish guns
should’ve invited people that weren’t scared to disagree and have an actual conversation
john clearly expressed his beliefs
You don’t consider this an actual conversation? It’s called NRA vs Mass Shooting survivors, not pro-gun vs anti-gun
Eric Sweeney well it’s called “middle ground” meaning two sides disagree but have a conversation
They are *supposed to find middle ground* they are meant to come into agreement. This was an actual,conversation.
Tbh this video is a bit more sensitive than others alot of them have lost people to the thing they’re arguing
This is crazy. Today my school went into a hold (something was going on with police in the area of the school so we had to stay in our classrooms) and the first thing I did, without even really thinking about it, was to figure out all of the places I could escape the room if it became necessary
This is probably one of my favorite episodes because everyone was super respectful and all have valid points.
When she asked that child four months out of his trauma “Don’t you wish you could have done more?”
I wish I was there 🙄
It was so disgusting and blood boiling
Timestamp?
Found it 6:10
Ikr wtf you most of the stuff she said was absurd anyways
She was clearly pushing her agenda. What was she hoping, that he would say "Oh yeah I wish I had a gun on me so I could take him down myself"?
That made me angry
Yeah I was shocked too, I just new that she was going in that “if you had a weapon at that time you could have defend yourself” direction and that is just not right
"I am so sorry you have had to experience that".....Starts the manipulative grilling on the 17 year old immediately smh
she’s so embarassing
She's f***ing shameless. That's what.
@@dominoxheartsyouxnot Using "embarrassing" to describe that sorta behaviour is what's embarrassing. Use a WAY stronger word.
You do realize she could have meant that teachers are armed with how many schools are going through this.
@@GrahamChapman using “way” when you could use a stronger word is what’s embarrassing. What are you 9 years old? Grow up
There’s no gun show loop hole. I’m surprised the NRA people missed it.
I really love this discussion you guys are very open minded and you guys are listening to each other before you respond that’s what we need we need to Ashley listen to each other before we respond to try to understand each other before we respond
I think y’all need to get Americans vs the rest of the world or like europeans bc this is crazy
brits vs americans
i would love to see it! as an american who lives in an extremely gun pro-state, i would love to hear about things the rest of the world does. whenever i go out into public, i look for the nearest exit in case of a shooting.
elizabeth it’s so wild to me that even people that have been through such trauma don’t understand the correlation!! i hope you stay safe :(
Yesss! Americans need to get out of their own bubble!
@Shem Casimir bro you do know that the democracy in europe is built way better than yours in the us? your political system is so corrupted and makes no sense. *you're* the ones who don't control their laws lol look at what trump's doing currently
I’m from Europe and this whole conversation seemed full on nonsense to me. Every country deals with mental health problems but not every country deals with gun violence. Period.
Guns are the most popular choice due to culture. More lives are saved by guns than killed. The amounts saved are in the tens of thousands while casualties from shootings are in the hundreds. Take away guns and you screw law abiding citizens from defending themselves from every single other form of crime which are way bigger problems than school shootings ever was.
If you want gold standard gun laws look to the Czech Republic
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Seeing this conversation (in combination with our country’s last 4 years especially) has made me really ashamed to be an American
@@supperfuntime36 Please move out of there or get better presidents. I would actually let someone in my country (and I'm talking your situation) that does not want to be in America in the next 8 years.
I know it’s a year late but just wanted to add to the convo for posterity, the american insistence that there is no other way and refusal to look at other countries and how they fixed their problems or even to attempt that to see if it works before deciding it’s impossible to fix is absurd and speaks volumes about their bubble and arrogance
This is so sad, bless you all
"The United States does not have a mass shooting problem." I nearly choked when I heard that. A lot of countries have mental health problems, but school doesn't equal shooting range there.
So if someone gets stabbed at a school in another country (which does happen btw) it's not a mental health problem?
@@adonisparts1343 who said it wasn't?
@@adonisparts1343 stop deflecting, that's not even what was said
@@adonisparts1343 really trying your best to change the subject aren't you?
@@CP-ir3ft So why aren't mass shootings also considered mental health problems? Instead, people only blame guns and while they are a contributing factor if you take them away there will still be problems caused by mental health.
pov: you're European and all of this sounds wildly absurd.
Countries like the UK, Switzerland, Scotland, Germany, and Australia look so good to live in on paper and everyone talks about those countries being so much better than the US. Is it just that they have less major problems? How even is life in European countries?
@@cat-uh8np There's no country without problems. I live in Italy. We constantly complain about everything, and rightly so.
But honestly certain things about America make it looks like a dystopia. And I, for one, knowing them would never want to come live there. Seeing videos like this one or John Oliver's Last Week Tonight makes me truly shiver.
Because in Europe (at least the western part) we may have problems like unemployment, slow bureaucracy, refugee crisis and some countries are in a bad financial state. But there are things we consider basic human rights: healthcare for everyone, workers' rights, public education and access to high levels of education without running into debts, public safety with very little to no risk to find yourself into a shooting, and less militarized and more sensible police.
I think citizens are regarded with more respect in Europe than in America, governments of all political sides care more for the citizens' well being than in the US. Therefore politicians usually - but not always - have to pay more attention to what they say and what they do. And things like what recently happened in Texas, with the state freezing over and people lacking the power to survive the cold, are just inadmissible in western Europe.
@@prominent.quasar yeah that seems like similar to what I thought it was. The US has so many problems they need to fix and we’re behind on all of them. But every society has its problems and complaints. It’s just that the US never fixes those problems. Thanks on the insight!
@@prominent.quasar I‘m Italian too and you phrased this perfectly!
People conceal carry in the Czech Republic just as i do here in the states. Wtf are you talking about. People in some European country's can own actual machine guns which is illegal for me. So your pov is entirely subjective.
They felt so proud with “I own a gun”. And the. All this victim blaming on their part. Disgusting.
This is the most rational conversation around this topic I’ve ever seen 🤝🏽🤝🏽💪🏽
the people that didnt come forward after he said america has a mass shooting problem... are they ok???
it’s insane how ignorant they are
@@sugarandspite It is a problem, but percentage wise, its a tiny minority of all shootings by far. Thats not ignorance thats statistics and people can have different opinions about it.
@@wheatandtares9764 Of course it's going to be a minute percentage of all shootings...that's why it has a different classification as a mass shooting. You don't measure whether a country has a problem with suicide based on what percentage of deaths are from suicide. You measure it relative to suicides per capita statistics in other countries and in previous years in the host country.
Wheat and Tares even one mass shooting should be leverage to change gun laws, if you don't, you either value your current laws too high or your citizens too low
Lauryn Blake omg yess. the IGNORANCE IS BLINDING i couldn’t even finish the episode
Heather kinda felt insensitive with how she can joke about guns with people who survived mass shootings and who had loved ones died because of it.
She just seems like the Karen of guns to me.
Heather wasn't kind of insensitive she was insensitive, I bet she's a lobbyist for the nra.
@@supernatural5354 Shes like the Karen of guns. Guns are the solution to every problem kind of person.
@@elyseeblackstone4597 no, Karens don't like guns
It felt like everyone else here was trying to have a heart to heart but she was just trying to prove a point.
Maj is exactly how I am when it comes to gun beliefs & how you use them & if you do/don't want to. Much respect to him.
Them saying “oh just be kind to everyone” is so absurd. You can’t be friends with everyone, and there are a lot of people who have trouble opening up to the point of saying “oh i want to sh00t everyone”. Pls be realistic.