Do All Killers Think The Same? | Spectrum

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Год назад +7889

    Do you think k*lling another human is ever justified?

    • @vicvancen
      @vicvancen Год назад +4287

      Yes, there are some situations where it's justified

    • @madelicious17
      @madelicious17 Год назад +2802

      Of course… killing another human for self-defense is justified.

    • @stvdials
      @stvdials Год назад +1108

      self defense is the only situation that killing another human can be justified

    • @mewzer_
      @mewzer_ Год назад +79

      yes

    • @yuhloic
      @yuhloic Год назад +266

      if it’s self defense yes

  • @whatisupdawg
    @whatisupdawg Год назад +25230

    Forrest is so empathetic and has deep compassion for everyone else in this lineup, but you can tell he still carries his own guilt. I hope he can find the forgiveness in himself he is showing his peers.

    • @2020_Visi0n
      @2020_Visi0n Год назад +281

      The blonde woman has the "empty eyes".
      Can you see it?

    • @palep1xie
      @palep1xie Год назад +122

      @@2020_Visi0nshe may have just been nervous

    • @andypandy8744
      @andypandy8744 Год назад +700

      @@2020_Visi0nshe’s recounting trauma for this video so i’d imagine it’d be hard for her to be expressive

    • @novy1198
      @novy1198 Год назад +58

      forrest, nick and franco have pretty much the worst life experience from all of them

    • @February_arts_
      @February_arts_ Год назад +5

      That’s my name too lol

  • @PigeonFace4Life
    @PigeonFace4Life Год назад +14421

    I love this. It sheds light on the fact that not every killer has a killer mentality like we think they have.

    • @kenn2wierd963
      @kenn2wierd963 Год назад +310

      U havent even watched this its been a minute bro like come on

    • @lucid8078
      @lucid8078 Год назад +83

      @@kenn2wierd963 fr lmaoo

    • @grass729
      @grass729 Год назад +72

      The video just got uploaded bruh

    • @keiron.4612
      @keiron.4612 Год назад +12

      I think reading your comment I'd like you to be my next
      Victim lol

    • @jubilee
      @jubilee  Год назад +331

      That’s exactly what we wanted to bring to this video, thank you for watching!

  • @YouMadWildForThatTho
    @YouMadWildForThatTho Год назад +26608

    SniperMan: "I didn't feel anything . . ."
    -proceeds to describe the most horrifying nightmare in human exsistence-

    • @jayoniad
      @jayoniad Год назад +951

      Ik that that brutal

    • @Victoria-dh9vb
      @Victoria-dh9vb Год назад +2143

      I think he meant that he had a delayed response.
      I get that. Your body does whatever it can to get you through a traumatic experience, and often part of that is keeping you numb until you are past the immediate threat.
      My father died in front of me from a heart attack when I was 19. No one could understand how I managed through the first couple weeks, looking back 11 years later... Even I don't know.
      I've been through other losses, other dangerous situations... I don't think I can convey it properly to anyone who hasn't experienced it, but your existence becomes so singular. As if your mind were a bag full of tangled elastic bands suddenly pulled taught all at once.
      No one's response is the same, but it's common to be extremely driven and detached in the moment, and completely go off the rails later.

    • @annathompson7770
      @annathompson7770 Год назад +287

      @@Victoria-dh9vbyep, same happened to me at 12 with my mom. didn’t really register until i was like 15 or so. still dealing with it 10 years later.

    • @ZMS463
      @ZMS463 Год назад +258

      That's what I thought. He's so desensitised. Bless him.

    • @emmastevens3274
      @emmastevens3274 Год назад +149

      @@ZMS463and he said he wasn’t desensitized i was like oh !

  • @Dmd265
    @Dmd265 Год назад +7065

    Finally a Jubilee episode where every single person is 100% sane and not at each other’s throats the whole time! This was so refreshing! I feel I could be friends with all of them.

    • @ADurham6390
      @ADurham6390 Год назад +7

      mjhjjhjjkkjjmkmjjj

    • @lordfabulous6198
      @lordfabulous6198 11 месяцев назад +475

      It's ironic given the criteria.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 11 месяцев назад +31

      a lot of their videos are pretty normal

    • @thesoulacademy5936
      @thesoulacademy5936 10 месяцев назад +115

      It's funny that it's killers that can be the most sound of mind in society, might be a lot more work for us to do as humanity.

    • @annaagapova3583
      @annaagapova3583 10 месяцев назад +4

      Most of this category are normal

  • @ohits_just.thefat1
    @ohits_just.thefat1 Год назад +18287

    Came for the shock value stayed for the conversation.

  • @keeparguing611
    @keeparguing611 Год назад +11170

    jubliee took the whole "if you put 5 killers in a room" literally

    • @EclecticDD
      @EclecticDD Год назад +47

      Click bait title

    • @hanmira
      @hanmira Год назад +127

      ​@@EclecticDDnot clickbait

    • @jannomeeuwessen4886
      @jannomeeuwessen4886 Год назад +487

      ​@@EclecticDDwho were you expecting? Jeffrey Damer, Jack the Ripper, H. H. Holmes, Pedro Lopez and Ted Bundy together in a room?

    • @Flesh_Wizard
      @Flesh_Wizard Год назад +90

      ​@@jannomeeuwessen4886absolutely heavenly cage match

    • @bluehatblackjacket
      @bluehatblackjacket Год назад +4

      How about 5 celebrities

  • @mengl29
    @mengl29 Год назад +11478

    I thought you guys were crazy for this, but I stand corrected, well done jubilee

    • @jubilee
      @jubilee  Год назад +375

      So glad that you enjoyed the episode! What was a takeaway for you?

    • @mengl29
      @mengl29 Год назад +556

      @@jubilee I would say the fact that not all killers are evil. There are many different reasons that someone might kill someone, and not all of them are unforgivable. Horrible things unfortunately happen, and it's important to get all the facts without acting on the instinct of prejudgment. Empathy is important.

    • @Noise_floorxx
      @Noise_floorxx Год назад +106

      The participants made this powerful. Lets be clear

    • @killjoypls
      @killjoypls Год назад +55

      ⁠​⁠@@Noise_floorxxwhile this is true, jubilee gave them the platform to share their powerful messages!

    • @mengl29
      @mengl29 Год назад +42

      @@killjoypls Yes, that was my point- I just applaud jubilee for going out of there way to find people like this to share their story

  • @Isometrix116
    @Isometrix116 Год назад +4713

    Terra felt singled out for being the only one who said they were a victim, but honestly, she’s the only one who _was_ a victim. The rest acted. I’m with her on that. The spread of everyone else not being a victim but her is exactly what I would expect and hope for.

    • @donovanwoll625
      @donovanwoll625 Год назад +175

      I'm curious, what did you mean by "the rest acted". None of them said they were victims. They all chose that they were not victims you even acknowledged this.

    • @Isometrix116
      @Isometrix116 Год назад +437

      @@donovanwoll625 Oh, its acted vs reacted. So, they had a choice, they made the choice, and they followed through with the choice. Terra didn't make any choice, she reacted to being attacked.
      I realize now this is something that is probably mostly discussed in writing circles where we talk about active vs reactive character.

    • @donovanwoll625
      @donovanwoll625 Год назад

      That makes much more sense. I thought you meant it as if they were acting like they were a victim. Thanks for giving me an in-depth answer.@@Isometrix116

    • @michahund4879
      @michahund4879 Год назад +66

      @@Isometrix116 dude who shot his friend didnt have a choice. it was an accident

    • @Isometrix116
      @Isometrix116 Год назад +419

      @@michahund4879 But he made significant choices leading up to it. Notably, he broke all 4 rules of firearms safety:
      1. A gun is always loaded
      2. Only point the gun at something you intend to destroy
      3. Be sure of your target and what's behind it
      4. Keep your finger off the trigger until the previous condition is met.
      That was a choice. An accident, yes, but one that was made through gross negligence and conscious choices.

  • @MollyBurkeOfficial
    @MollyBurkeOfficial Год назад +20938

    This was far more profound than I was expecting. So much respect to everyone in this video and Jubilee for shedding light and creating this conversation.

    • @doviebowers-iq5fo
      @doviebowers-iq5fo Год назад +59

      yesss i agree (btw i love your vids and you inspire so many people)

    • @maude_22
      @maude_22 Год назад +18

      love you molly!

    • @andietaj
      @andietaj Год назад +6

      so true....

    • @kate_omega2657
      @kate_omega2657 Год назад +6

      Would you ever want to be in one of their videos?

    • @ComedyGlor
      @ComedyGlor Год назад +11

      ​@@kate_omega2657she has been in one of their disability videos I believe

  • @lucyservo6574
    @lucyservo6574 Год назад +8084

    I admire Lester. I imagine it would take a lot of strength and vulnerability to take accountability and face what he did. He's a better person now, and that's amazing

    • @path2redemption639
      @path2redemption639 Год назад +263

      Thanks 🙏🏾

    • @benjamincardenas1636
      @benjamincardenas1636 Год назад +36

      W lester

    • @busch_ii7450
      @busch_ii7450 Год назад +67

      @@hashbrown4mekinda obvious he was in prison for a long time. He talks about it

    • @tymeadors855
      @tymeadors855 Год назад +259

      @@hashbrown4meisn’t the point of prison reform? He’s been reformed. He served his punishment, learned from his actions, and is actively doing better than before.

    • @amaranextdoor
      @amaranextdoor Год назад +56

      @@path2redemption639 you're truly amazing, sir. You've turned your life around for the better and it's beautiful to see.

  • @jordynfolsom6951
    @jordynfolsom6951 Год назад +9030

    Lester’s growth and rehabilitation is what the prison system should be about. It’s so amazing he took initiative to better himself. And Forrest, such a well-spoken and warm individual. This video is so thought-provoking and inspiring

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад +27

      Absolutely!

    • @vaibhavgorige833
      @vaibhavgorige833 Год назад +71

      I completely agree that rehabilitation for criminals would be perfect, but I also think that the greatest benefit prison provides for us is that it separates us from them. I much more value my family going to bed peacefully than anything else

    • @Chromey3735
      @Chromey3735 Год назад +83

      It depends on what’s inside the mind of a person. Some people are genuinely incapable of change.
      Another point is that he’s lucky that he was actually able to turn his life story into a career, what about all the sinners who can’t find work or means of living after their incarceration?

    • @vaibhavgorige833
      @vaibhavgorige833 Год назад +6

      @@Chromey3735 I get it... It's just a hard situation

    • @spencerjones9807
      @spencerjones9807 Год назад +12

      The thing is that you can’t change someone who doesn’t want to change. Prison isn’t a cure, but you take out if it what you put in

  • @Butternose24
    @Butternose24 Год назад +1505

    It’s hard hearing Forrest talk about his situation. The pain and guilt of his actions are still very heavy for him. I really hope his healing process becomes much smoother one day soon.

    • @omarsahyoun5284
      @omarsahyoun5284 Год назад +7

      I hope it never does, the people who were rightfully defending their family and land dont have the chance to live

    • @brightshining
      @brightshining Год назад +74

      @omarsahyoun5284 wrong guy, that was nick :p

    • @Emilythematerialgurl
      @Emilythematerialgurl 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@omarsahyoun5284everyone in every military does but I'm with 🇵🇸

  • @radishpie
    @radishpie Год назад +3006

    “Community is the antidote to a lot of human suffering” wow, such an amazing quote

    • @hyacinna
      @hyacinna Год назад +2

      ​@@HandlesTheCybermanexactly

    • @sanne433
      @sanne433 Год назад

      Yaaas

    • @MrContemplation
      @MrContemplation 5 месяцев назад +2

      It’s exactly what we used to have that made the world a better place. Now we don’t know the people around our own homes in a lot of cases.

  • @nikk5002
    @nikk5002 Год назад +22777

    Terra actually is a victim. Props to her for fighting back.

    • @Bash_Is_Bae
      @Bash_Is_Bae Год назад +237

      Aren't most of them victims?

    • @byunbaekhyun2283
      @byunbaekhyun2283 Год назад +378

      @@Bash_Is_Bae Yeah, except Nick.

    • @nikk5002
      @nikk5002 Год назад +118

      @@Bash_Is_Bae No.

    • @liberalstchenel596
      @liberalstchenel596 Год назад +1075

      ​@@Bash_Is_Baethe sniper choose to be one, so i don't see him as a victim, neither as wrong, just saying

    • @bagelboy8023
      @bagelboy8023 Год назад +413

      @@byunbaekhyun2283neither is Franco, he was doing his duty just like nick

  • @randomness1265
    @randomness1265 Год назад +6515

    I really hope Forrest is able to forgive himself, he seems like a nice guy. Sending him prayers❤️

    • @xtherealest
      @xtherealest Год назад +97

      I hope so too but I think it's something that is very hard or probably even impossible to do. If I was him I couldn't stop blaming myself to be honest.

    • @forrest619
      @forrest619 Год назад +93

      Forgiveness is clearing resentment and abandoning revenge. It does not alleviate responsibility or regret. It’s a daily practice.

    • @sophiegilmore1529
      @sophiegilmore1529 Год назад

      K k

    • @Jamzamurai
      @Jamzamurai Год назад +28

      @forrest619 i’ll be real with you, this comment helped me organize and clarify some emotions i’ve had that i didn’t know what to do with, thank you.

    • @zandreecabello4100
      @zandreecabello4100 Год назад +8

      @@Jamzamuraithis is so heartfelt. im praying for you within any struggle you’re fighting through!

  • @MJ_1013
    @MJ_1013 8 месяцев назад +187

    I’m a respiratory therapist and I’m in awe that one of us was included here. I’ve been doing this for 20 years and people don’t always know that we’re the ones that actually “pull the plug” and it never gets easier. I do feel desensitized to death but there’s also cases where it is difficult. All I can say is that I would be a shell of myself if I had to do this with kids and babies.

  • @sandracharlot6376
    @sandracharlot6376 Год назад +6681

    Franco is someone who should definitely write a book. His humanity and empathy is just stunning.

    • @cezarab5236
      @cezarab5236 Год назад +128

      He seems like this person who has such a calming presence, he seems so wise. I feel like he's someone I could listen to for hours.

    • @jmaldo92
      @jmaldo92 Год назад +87

      He's also hot AF. I'm sorry 🙈

    • @sibria
      @sibria Год назад +27

      @@jmaldo92No need to be sorry 😂

    • @Efreeti
      @Efreeti Год назад +48

      When he talked about how much death he's seen throughout the pandemic is what kind of broke me. I recognized already that especially over a dozen year medical career he's seen the most death of anyone there, even more than a twenty year prison sentence or a seven year military career, but knowing how the pandemic was handled in the US and the staggering, unfathomable numbers and the toll it took on healthcare workers... Nicholas took over 30 lives during one campaign, it's not unrealistic to consider Franco might have had to remove life support for over 30 people a day at some point. I really feel for him and I hope he has the support he needs.

    • @simeon8967
      @simeon8967 Год назад

      @@jmaldo92if you look at somebody with lust you have committed adultery in your heart

  • @whitneytan2330
    @whitneytan2330 Год назад +5079

    was pleasantly surprised by the casting of different contexts and reasons...great job, Jubilee!!

  • @andrewjohnston7467
    @andrewjohnston7467 Год назад +2014

    Damn. When Forrest said @23:34 "We move in seconds and inches, and measure progress in (miles?) and years." That is so astute of him. The choices we make affect our whole path ahead. I hope he really finds (has found) peace in his life.

    • @WYrza_
      @WYrza_ Год назад +6

      There can’t always be a reason for everything. With enough variables the possibilities become infinite.

  • @manikahemmerixh
    @manikahemmerixh 10 месяцев назад +246

    Hearing Forrest describe not being able to understand his action and how he wasn't thinking when he accidentally shot his friend is so heartbreaking to me, because we all do things without thinking, and I know sometimes in retrospect I've felt so lucky that nothing bad happened but that isn't always the case :/

  • @BBubblegum-ou5wq
    @BBubblegum-ou5wq Год назад +5005

    I really like the variety of people here. Makes for an interesting conversation

    • @defnotnaruto222
      @defnotnaruto222 Год назад +40

      There are different motives which make every story more interesting

  • @shoeman6966
    @shoeman6966 Год назад +7334

    That dream the sniper had sounds absolutely terrifying. I wouldn’t wish that inner conflict upon my worst enemy.

    • @USSR.SovietSpaceArmada
      @USSR.SovietSpaceArmada Год назад +228

      War is HeII

    • @djoyne391
      @djoyne391 Год назад +28

      Wait how is his dream embarrassing? Do you not know that mortifying mean “very embarrassing”?

    • @IskateUphill
      @IskateUphill Год назад +119

      His name is Nicholas Irving. I see him on RUclips a lot. He also wrote a book about his experiences

    • @deluxional322
      @deluxional322 11 месяцев назад +80

      @@djoyne391i thought mortifying meant like horrifying or terrible or something like that

    • @warrorcatfishing4320
      @warrorcatfishing4320 10 месяцев назад +100

      Most of us Combat Veterans have nightmares like that. I've had them for 20 years. That's why I started Warr;or Catfishing. Fishing helps me relax and just chill. I figured if it helps me this much it'll help others. So from May to October we take Veterans and First Responders out catfishing free of charge.

  • @jl4260
    @jl4260 Год назад +247

    Forrest seems like a kind and gentle soul. His story moved me to tears because it was a horrible tragic accident where there are no winners. Everybody suffers and the trauma is lifelong, but you can't hate and punish yourself forever. I hope one day Forrest can forgive himself. It is evident he is full of remorse and has dedicated his life to trying to give back. I hope the family of his best friend heals, and his best friend continues to rest in peace. So sorry for all of their loss.

    • @DeAnne1233
      @DeAnne1233 9 месяцев назад

      He is living his life as a forgiven and repentant person.
      Faith in oneself takes time and effort.
      He’s been and continues collecting crowns, he’ll believe that one day.
      We don’t always have an explanation for what’s in our heads or in our hearts but our soul does.
      Our inner being does try to teach us lessons on morality and virtue as we journey through life.
      Having free will we can choose to listen or not.

  • @annaboogman3321
    @annaboogman3321 Год назад +1715

    Franco comes across as so calm, respectful, empathetic and understanding. I think he is the perfect person for his job, even if that sounds strange.

    • @Nikkisowner0
      @Nikkisowner0 2 месяца назад

      Cus he’s a sociopath

    • @cantsneedgaming4591
      @cantsneedgaming4591 20 дней назад

      ​@@Nikkisowner0 bro you making this comment makes you seem like a sociopath

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue 8 дней назад

      Sounds like he enjoys it!

  • @JahazielCastillo
    @JahazielCastillo Год назад +5327

    I know the rizz videos are funny and are to appeal to the younger audience but this is what jubilee is to me. Strong interesting topics being discussed by strong interesting people.

    • @jimmydean6801
      @jimmydean6801 Год назад +119

      Yes! I missed this jubilee content! It’s so interesting to hear the different perspectives and I take away so much from each and everyone one of these people.

    • @arachnid33
      @arachnid33 Год назад +3

      Yes ❤

    • @ciaramitchell1182
      @ciaramitchell1182 Год назад +26

      I agree, I've been watching Jubilee since their early days, and it's these topics that I love being discussed and the different perspectives

    • @byunbaekhyun2283
      @byunbaekhyun2283 Год назад +34

      Yeah, I feel like they're doing too much ranking content now, I miss their spectrum and middle ground content.

    • @alitzzy
      @alitzzy Год назад +5

      Yes, thank you for mentioning it. These conversations are much needed.

  • @Unknown-us1fc
    @Unknown-us1fc Год назад +1069

    I like the diversity in the “kills”. The varying reasons and circumstance really gives scope and perspective. This was really well done!

    • @sloaneyboo
      @sloaneyboo Год назад +7

      LOL I made almost the exact same comment before seeing yours!!

  • @schingh1973
    @schingh1973 Год назад +888

    I met Terra in New Orleans a few years ago with her Mother. I got to hear their story. She was 1000% a victim

    • @Okaydokie173
      @Okaydokie173 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sure

    • @Okaydokie173
      @Okaydokie173 7 месяцев назад +1

      Cry about it

    • @schingh1973
      @schingh1973 7 месяцев назад +37

      Huh? What are you rambling on about? Move along

    • @bestgamer6989
      @bestgamer6989 7 месяцев назад +53

      ​@@Okaydokie173 not you replying to yourself💀

    • @Melting_because_of_beauty
      @Melting_because_of_beauty 3 месяца назад

      Im sorry no one can intertwine a victim and 13 stabs with one in the eye ball no matter what is the context
      She truly believes shes a victim but that's typical women

  • @starnaz9836
    @starnaz9836 Год назад +2247

    All of them contributed really meaningfully here, but Lester really stands out to me, each thought he contributes is so insightful and eloquent. "Transparency transports people." I love that quote. I noticed how he always makes an effort to relate to his fellow participants when they are maybe alone on the other side of the spectrum or they shared something vulnerable. That highlights how empathic he is. He is wise and conscientious in his word choice making him an excellent communicator; and I think he's a great person to be in the mentor role that he is in his community. Respect

    • @lieslct
      @lieslct Год назад +47

      This was such a well written comment! I completely agree.

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions Год назад +10

      Most definitely

    • @whithehearthro
      @whithehearthro Год назад +18

      Also the way he understands that he would be less impactful if he was making tons of money… I don’t have anything against money but you can tell he works hard to stay humble and helpful.

  • @jbzhummerh2gamer
    @jbzhummerh2gamer Год назад +36632

    Franco, you're not a killer. It's your job to end suffering.

    • @Noise_floorxx
      @Noise_floorxx Год назад +1408

      Exactly. The only reprieve is that this is voluntary.

    • @conradkorbol
      @conradkorbol Год назад +2763

      It’s still killing. He just isn’t cruel or psycho .

    • @whateverwhatever4026
      @whateverwhatever4026 Год назад +1442

      Agreed. It's not even usually about "plugging a plug". There is no plug. It's usually inaction and stopping saving them. This man doesn't belong here.

    • @EclecticDD
      @EclecticDD Год назад +727

      Seriously. A respiratory therapist who has to extubate people, some who are clinically brain dead. Jubilee needs to make their questions better.

    • @moosessurus8172
      @moosessurus8172 Год назад +1862

      @@EclecticDDyou guys are the ones putting the negative connotation with “killer” causing you to react so strongly. A person who is responsible for another’s death is a killer, and the whole point of this video is showing that that’s not always a cruel, amoral act. You’re missing that point if you try to act like he’s not a “killer” just because you agree with him

  • @Justheretowatchvids365
    @Justheretowatchvids365 Год назад +2598

    Everyone was so brave to open up. Proud of everyone!
    Also poor Tara having her trauma BLASTED for true-crime fanatics. There is a difference in telling your story and having it being told for you. A shame it keeps happening to her.

    • @croccat
      @croccat Год назад +21

      THANK YOU for saying this

    • @ayarofgnihcraes
      @ayarofgnihcraes Год назад

      wh@@soggyfroggyz

    • @kaliceisthecoolest
      @kaliceisthecoolest Год назад +3

      @@soggyfroggyzokay edge lord

    • @blueprint6578
      @blueprint6578 Год назад +7

      ​@@soggyfroggyzomg so quirky and different and not like other girls

    • @blueprint6578
      @blueprint6578 Год назад +7

      @@Jjj-wm6ur She said that tara deserved it

  • @shuntelajuarez1842
    @shuntelajuarez1842 Год назад +1217

    I feel bad for Terra because I know she was a victim but you can see she is desensitized and it's almost like you can look straight through her eyes.

    • @soggyfroggyz
      @soggyfroggyz Год назад +13

      She probably faked it

    • @cristxllix
      @cristxllix Год назад +256

      @@soggyfroggyzdid he pick you yet?

    • @tendousatori1584
      @tendousatori1584 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@soggyfroggyzyou're p@thetic

    • @dinuffin
      @dinuffin 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@cristxllixWho?

    • @onakochafiołki
      @onakochafiołki 9 месяцев назад +151

      @@soggyfroggyzyou look incredibly young. i genuinely hope that you never have to go through something like this where your comment will come around to hurt you too in the end. be kind to other women, because one day you might need them to be kind to you.

  • @DenGirl12
    @DenGirl12 Год назад +3976

    Terra is a badass and Dirty John is now in the right place. He destroyed her mother’s life and her daughter’s lives. She was almost the victim in the struggle and she made it. She made it!!

    • @beatricerights
      @beatricerights Год назад +58

      Where can I find out more about this story. I never heard of her.

    • @andreashee4087
      @andreashee4087 Год назад +27

      @@beatricerights can just search up her name and dirty
      John!!

    • @Aaakeith
      @Aaakeith Год назад +28

      @@beatricerightsIf you’re into podcasts, there’s a whole series on the situation. It was also made into a tv show.

    • @msrainbowbrite
      @msrainbowbrite Год назад +27

      It wasn't just John who destroyed the life of Tara. Her mother has blame too

    • @ConsciousApostle999
      @ConsciousApostle999 Год назад +18

      ​@@msrainbowbriteAre you slow?

  • @rhilavender
    @rhilavender Год назад +1810

    i would love to see a spectrum with therapists! as a therapist who has worked with a lot of people with chronic illnesses and drug issues, the question abt being desensitized to death/violence hit hard

    • @caulenspencer1157
      @caulenspencer1157 Год назад +5

      Honest question, if they wanted to do an episode like that are therapists allowed to talk about their patients, especially this publicly?

    • @jesseshepherd5522
      @jesseshepherd5522 Год назад

      I personally would not see it that way. No personal information is going to be shared. Therapists write about their patients all the time without detailing who they are. Some of the stories my therapist shares are very helpful. @@caulenspencer1157

    • @joshithacheppalli9778
      @joshithacheppalli9778 Год назад +31

      ​@@caulenspencer1157 Hi, therapist here! No, they wouldn't be allowed to reveal patient names or other identifying features as part of their own ethical responsibility. But it would be okay to talk about topics from a generalized pov or even to talk about a story without giving identifiable information

    • @kenny851117
      @kenny851117 Год назад +1

      Thank you for what you have done, it's tough.

    • @notaperson9831
      @notaperson9831 9 месяцев назад +2

      Please know you’re valued! I was in and out of addiction and mental health treatment from the age of 12 until currently at 31. It wasn’t until I was 25 that I met the two counselors that would change my life. I am in the process of becoming a peer recovery specialist now myself and I wouldn’t be alive today without them. I know it can be a thankless and devastating job sometimes but I promise you’re someone’s angel 💕🖤🥀

  • @quirkyguy29
    @quirkyguy29 Год назад +1312

    I read killers and was shocked IMMEDIATELY. Currently watching the episode, and the first declaration was heartbreaking

    • @samu-chan
      @samu-chan Год назад +5

      LOL

    • @sian2439
      @sian2439 Год назад +34

      @@samu-chanwhat’s LOL ab that…

  • @shushinfushin1312
    @shushinfushin1312 Год назад +530

    Having a job like Franco's is something I'd never even really considered, always assumed it would just be any doctor or nurse assigned to the patient who'd do it.. to have a job specifically doing that, I can't even imagine the mental/emotional rollercoasters you'd go through..

    • @jonathanasdell4539
      @jonathanasdell4539 7 месяцев назад +24

      Respiratory therapy is an important space in medicine, especially critical situations like ICU or ER; if you're on a ventilator, you're having a bad day. Being in charge of the machine that breathes for people unfortunately means he had to also make them stop breathing

    • @sj5218
      @sj5218 7 месяцев назад +7

      This! I’ve truly never thought of this being an actual position assigned to specific people, it’s oddly like being the grim reaper, that’s so sad 😢😢😢

    • @thomaskissell5269
      @thomaskissell5269 6 месяцев назад +4

      It depends on where you work. Here we don't have respiratory therapists and it's us as the nurses (with the doctors) that pull the tube

  • @unknow23136
    @unknow23136 Год назад +2467

    Forrest did my back piece tattoo many years ago and I was surprised to put on this video and see him. Wishing him well and much peace. ❤

    • @VenomousMinds
      @VenomousMinds Год назад +59

      Tara did my tattoo, and now I'm wishing I'd gone to Forrest instead.

    • @chucksneed1264
      @chucksneed1264 Год назад +33

      Nick is my tattoo artist, would recommend

    • @triggeredlatina
      @triggeredlatina Год назад +82

      Lmao this comment section

    • @perfectpatties1759
      @perfectpatties1759 Год назад +60

      Franco did my tattoo, but his hair kept getting on me. It was annoying

    • @Islamthe1way
      @Islamthe1way Год назад +9

      ​@@perfectpatties1759😂😆

  • @jordandabbagh0605
    @jordandabbagh0605 Год назад +1787

    Respect for Franco such a hard job

    • @turtlesandmoreturtles
      @turtlesandmoreturtles Год назад +10

      The replies on this comment must have been hidden because no way it has 1.3k likes and no replies.

    • @whalium889
      @whalium889 Год назад +7

      It’s crazy that he gets to know the patients and their families

  • @theoutside7
    @theoutside7 Год назад +2807

    I have MAJOR respect for Terra. I learned about her story from dirty John and I cannot imagine the fear of having to kill someone especially being so young. She’s an amazing advocate for survivors of antisocial abuse and a very strong person. Sending love ❤

    • @chloet5593
      @chloet5593 Год назад +5

      what's antisocial abuse??

    • @xxlethesxwingsxx2340
      @xxlethesxwingsxx2340 Год назад +99

      ⁠​⁠@@chloet5593Antisocial Personality Disorder is a spectrum of disorders that include psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists. Antisocial abuse would refer to abuse done by someone on this spectrum.

    • @DarlenChaconWinter
      @DarlenChaconWinter Год назад +1

      Sociopaths (Antisocial Personality Disorder)

    • @theAntiCauliflower
      @theAntiCauliflower Год назад +3

      I'm glad her story is able to uplift others who are going through similar situations ❤

    • @soggyfroggyz
      @soggyfroggyz Год назад +2

      She faked it all

  • @JayReneTheOne
    @JayReneTheOne 10 месяцев назад +208

    As a military member who went to war. When he talks about knowing how to diffuse a situation with violence every time you enter a room is still present at a certain level 11 years later

    • @mightyjet22
      @mightyjet22 3 месяца назад +5

      Stay ready you don’t have to get ready 6ps I still count exits and never have my back to the door or sit on the inside of a booth

    • @scaryalbino8807
      @scaryalbino8807 3 месяца назад +5

      Diffusing a situation with violence is usually called "escalating"

    • @mrdavidsteen
      @mrdavidsteen 2 месяца назад +7

      @@scaryalbino8807 In this context, I think it's called "survival." The situation he's preparing to diffuse isn't a verbal argument or something familiar; it's likely more like a robbery, an act of terrorism, or another violent act. In war, you respond to aggressiveness with counter-aggression.

    • @AxisSilent
      @AxisSilent 2 месяца назад

      @@mightyjet22 same, corrections.

  • @gyosob7265
    @gyosob7265 Год назад +1070

    the fact that jubilee was able to collect this demographic for this video is insane, this video is jubilee at its greatest

    • @wolfzmusic9706
      @wolfzmusic9706 Год назад +5

      Well it makes sense. If they were cold blooded killers they'd still be in jail, so obviously their selection is of people where the context and situation is different and not so bad.

  • @lucyisskincare
    @lucyisskincare Год назад +1143

    i think it's so cool how jubilee found people who did the same thing in such different ways. when i clicked on this i didn't even think about pulling life support or self defense, and it's interesting how they can relate in some ways even thought their experiences are so different.

    • @Black_Caucus
      @Black_Caucus Год назад +55

      Yeah, I expected it to be all former prisoners who mostly did it on purpose. This was a very diverse video.

    • @em5522
      @em5522 7 месяцев назад +5

      True, I completely overlooked soldiers (ironic, bc I work with ex-military).

  • @aurorarockman9389
    @aurorarockman9389 Год назад +2123

    This is like a taste of what Jubilee used to be, and I am hungry for more. I just love the depth and nuance in this video, and the longer length to accommodate the topic. Please please please do more videos like this.

    • @OhtheSuffering
      @OhtheSuffering Год назад +101

      Yeah, their older videos definitely had more emotional depth and meaning to them. It’s rare to see videos like this now on their channel.

    • @pedrocortez3797
      @pedrocortez3797 Год назад

      now its guess who has the biggest boobs

    • @shinyeee1709
      @shinyeee1709 Год назад +42

      A lot of it really depends on the cast.

    • @mooka415
      @mooka415 Год назад +2

      Boy

    • @frenchgirl5878
      @frenchgirl5878 Год назад +6

      Spoken in true wattpad fashion.

  • @arlenewest
    @arlenewest 11 месяцев назад +32

    one thing that i can say about this here is that, this is really wonderful how they are not judging each other off of their emotions and They are allowing each other to speak, some other the other shows. they will go off their emotions and not listen to each other and how they all feel. really loved this here .

  • @bigsmok269
    @bigsmok269 Год назад +605

    Forrest, my brother died in the same way as your story. I forgave his friend long time ago and feel bad for him now. You're not alone or hated.

  • @jeweladelsberg5866
    @jeweladelsberg5866 Год назад +1214

    Makes me so sad to hear terra say she feels exploited, I wonder how many people feel exploited by these types of true crime docs

    • @hannahwatsun
      @hannahwatsun Год назад +75

      I literally gasped when she said Dirty John. I knew exactly who she was talking about, the story. Yet. I’ve never heard of the real her. Honestly. Which just goes to show! I was completely taken back by her presence, as was I enlightened. She’s is one brave, strong woman!

    • @desdemona420
      @desdemona420 11 месяцев назад +38

      the victims of jeffrey dahmer felt the same when dahmer came out

  • @laourse1751
    @laourse1751 Год назад +4677

    Terra explaining how the true crime community exploited her and her story... 😦 This is surreal.

    • @rico-fs1cr
      @rico-fs1cr 10 месяцев назад +105

      I''m pretty sure this is a common standard within criminal underworld, lol.

    • @impjbtw
      @impjbtw 9 месяцев назад +250

      wait so ur saying all those true crime podcasts are doing it for money and arent actually sending any money at all to the families... whaaat💀💀💀

    • @meggiepooo
      @meggiepooo 9 месяцев назад +22

      @@impjbtw yup

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 9 месяцев назад

      The news media does this every single day.... The news isn't there to keep us informed. It's there to sell advertising.

    • @STURDYvids
      @STURDYvids 9 месяцев назад +1

      whoosh@@meggiepooo

  • @funybug
    @funybug 9 месяцев назад +18

    The pain I see in Forrest’s face as he recounts what happened is just heart shattering. I see so much pain. I truly hope he finds the peace he deserves, he seems like a very kind hearted person

  • @BabyBoy_Milo
    @BabyBoy_Milo Год назад +868

    Franco talking about staying with the mystery guy so he didn’t pass alone was heartbreaking

    • @AdaminaCarden
      @AdaminaCarden Год назад +41

      Yea I really felt that. My dad died alone in a hotel room a year ago and just knowing that Franco did something like tha for this random dying person really hit me

  • @zaiah9252
    @zaiah9252 Год назад +627

    This was probably the best spectrum I've seen in years and easily one of Jubilee's best episodes. I love how you guys didn't just choose ex-criminals but a spectrum of different people. Keep up the great work

  • @MoneyMindset500
    @MoneyMindset500 Год назад +815

    When I first saw the thumbnail I was like “why aren’t all these people in jail”. But then after watching I realised that killers aren’t always evil people

    • @VenomousMinds
      @VenomousMinds Год назад +10

      I fell for the clickbait too, but I'm having a more difficult time being forgiving. People hear the word "killer" used a certain way and they're going to assume a certain context. I guess that being duped often comes with the territory (of going on YT), but I don't appreciate when its done so deliberately, by a company who probably can afford to use more representative titles at this point. I may be in the minority, but I truly don't care how many millions anyone dangles in front of me, I would rather be respected and looked at as being respectable than knowingly disappointing even one viewer (much less doing it deliberately and being OK with it). I am weird though, and it doesn't really matter.

    • @MoneyMindset500
      @MoneyMindset500 Год назад

      @@VenomousMinds respect ✊

    • @yourestillontheproperty8837
      @yourestillontheproperty8837 Год назад +2

      @@VenomousMindshuh? How is it clickbait?

    • @chilidoghog
      @chilidoghog Год назад +10

      Hmmm... It's almost like when we don't automatically assume something, were able to actually better understand it, who would've known. Almost like getting to know something before making an opinion on it 🤯seriously though, the true problem with humans is that they assume everything too fast before knowing it.

    • @venkkooo
      @venkkooo 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@VenomousMindsIt's not clickbait, the title isn't "5 murderers"

  • @kaidami333
    @kaidami333 7 месяцев назад +17

    my heart aches for forrest. you can just see it all over him how much he still carries this with him. i hope others show him the same compassion & empathy he shows others.

  • @ihabal-dhaouadi3433
    @ihabal-dhaouadi3433 Год назад +727

    I really feel sorry for all of them, especially Forrest. He clearly is still carrying the feel of guilt in him

  • @bri.b6448
    @bri.b6448 Год назад +366

    To the RT, from a nurse. You are more valuable than I can state. Your skills are unparalleled, both practical and interpersonal. Your depth of knowledge and willingness to teach is unmatched. Your endurance for empathy is astounding. God bless you all. Thank you for taking the call, running to the bedside and helping. I was often in over my head, and you stepped in with adeptness to take care of the patient with grace.

  • @AnthonyAllenJr
    @AnthonyAllenJr Год назад +1865

    This was an award worthy episode!! Great job Jubilee.

  • @13bigbangtheory
    @13bigbangtheory Год назад +45

    I clicked on the video, because I wanted to see how such a sensitive subject would be handled. I was very pleased to see the participants and their absolute compassion for one another, and their self reflection.

  • @valeriegonzalez-limon1010
    @valeriegonzalez-limon1010 Год назад +469

    When my son was passing and he had to be taken off of life support, everyone that I met during my sons time came in and out offering their condolences and would tell me such beautiful words. They cried with me and hugged me and my family and when I had to leave they let me and my sons father take him a bath and change him for the last time. I handed my baby boy over to them and told them “please take care of him” and they promised me they would. I know it wasn’t easy to see all that happen and especially taking him off life support after getting to know me and my story and my sons story. I’ll always remember them forever

    • @beatricerights
      @beatricerights Год назад +4

      I'm so sorry for your loss. If you don't mind me asking, how did he die?

    • @Kaxxonxbox
      @Kaxxonxbox Год назад +8

      I’m so sorry for your loss 😢💔

    • @gloriatazza9339
      @gloriatazza9339 Год назад +3

      Sending hugs to you ❤🙏🏼 bless your sons soul.

    • @pinlight97
      @pinlight97 Год назад +13

      - I wish I could say more but thank you for sharing. My stillborn daughter’s name was Abigail. If you are comfortable to, I would love to know your son’s name.

    • @JB.abcdef
      @JB.abcdef Год назад +6

      I'm so sorry! Hugs from one mom to another.

  • @ProvavelmenteYasmin
    @ProvavelmenteYasmin Год назад +952

    I really like the way so many different perspectives were brought into this video, it really shows everyone's motivation/reason. Also, props to the people in there for being open minded to "debating" in a certain way. :)

    • @jubilee
      @jubilee  Год назад +37

      Couldn’t have agreed more!

  • @opalwzrd
    @opalwzrd Год назад +514

    They are all incredible people but WOW.. Lester and Forrest are profound. Wow. I’m so glad they were both part of this. Them speaking together is the most beautiful and inspirational thing I’ve ever heard.

  • @randompersonontheinternet9336
    @randompersonontheinternet9336 Год назад +25

    I love how each of these people experienced completely different things. It’s really eye opening and fascinating to hear what they’ve all gone through and how it’s changed them as people.
    This was my favorite Jubilee episode I’ve ever seen!

  • @rebeccamadsen4509
    @rebeccamadsen4509 Год назад +490

    I would love to hear Lesters opinion on the prison system, the law, police officers etc.
    It's amazing how he seems to have rehabilitated himself.

  • @DanielMartActor
    @DanielMartActor Год назад +193

    23:16 - I agree with her. He shouldn't need to pick a side if he doesn't want to. He shouldn't be forced to pick a side if he doesn't feel comfortable in doing so, and the host is wrong, should be ashamed, for obligating him (or anyone) to do that. Sometimes, the neutral answer is the answer that the responder wants to give.

  • @dailyspiritualselfcare
    @dailyspiritualselfcare Год назад +1657

    Grateful that Jubilee exists to bring these meaningful conversations to light.

  • @Pollo.a.la.crema.
    @Pollo.a.la.crema. Год назад +1416

    Nick is a perfect example of how war is a human disease. I hope he is seeking therapy.

    • @wallclock4648
      @wallclock4648 Год назад +1

      I hope the families those brown kids that got their heads blown off seek therapy
      Also glory to Russia🇷🇺

    • @nothnkyou
      @nothnkyou Год назад +1

      @@robert1757do you know if there’s a way to contact him and teach him how to keep his guns clean and functioning? I’d give him a class.
      (Not in a I want him unaliving himself was just in a helping him to succeed kinda way )

    • @nickcox7431
      @nickcox7431 Год назад

      ​@@silenceisbetterthannonsenseyou're a disgusting human. If you only knew what he did for our military.

    • @ireallycant4416
      @ireallycant4416 Год назад +50

      @@robert1757Jesus Christ…

    • @jamesbaker3153
      @jamesbaker3153 Год назад +49

      Chimps go to war, ants go to war. Its not just a human thing.

  • @Gabriellaella23
    @Gabriellaella23 Год назад +732

    I've heard Tara's story years ago on Kendall Rae's channel, but didn't realize that was her until she said, "Dirty John" I happy to see she is okay. He was a terrible man and I'm glad she put an end to his antics. He would have killed her if she wouldn't have fought back as strong as she did. She definitely was a victim, but she is a fighter too. Said to see people exploit her story and she doesn't get anything from it though.

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Год назад +14

      Her name is Terra, not Tara.

    • @saramcdonald3093
      @saramcdonald3093 Год назад +4

      same here! didn’t realize it until she said that.

    • @TheBcoolGuy
      @TheBcoolGuy Год назад +1

      @@Ceerads Hippie name.

    • @nanwijanarko1969
      @nanwijanarko1969 Год назад +21

      ​@@TheBcoolGuyTerra means earth. It's a beautiful name imho.

    • @destineyrosa7609
      @destineyrosa7609 Год назад +1

      Kendall Rae donates to the families from what I understand when they have outlets to do so

  • @khrisfromstatefarm
    @khrisfromstatefarm Год назад +301

    Lester comes off as such an amazing person, he probably won't see this but I'm proud of his personal growth. ♥

    • @maloneaqua
      @maloneaqua Год назад +26

      I’ve had the privilege to meet Lester, he really is a remarkable human being.

  • @audreylynn2128
    @audreylynn2128 Год назад +239

    My heart absolutely goes out to Forrest, I hope he finds the healing he needs and deserves 💜

  • @Fatty4president
    @Fatty4president 10 месяцев назад +15

    I have seen Nick the Reaper on other channels. It’s enlightening to hear everyone speak about what they experienced. It shows how they see what they did and gives perspective to something that at face value is something horrible but for others it’s a job. I hope it makes some sense
    TL:DR very informative and the people speaking show there strength to be able to talk about this. Thank you for your stories and your honesty

  • @diabolikeden1411
    @diabolikeden1411 Год назад +125

    I don’t know why but I was expecting just like straight up murderers when I read the title loll but I appreciate the mix of people. It really gives perspective. So much respect to Terra and Franco. I also hope Forrest is doing well. I can’t imagine what guilt he must be constantly going through.

  • @PorshiaVonne
    @PorshiaVonne Год назад +142

    I can’t imagine what it’s like. The aftermath 😞 The ceiling fan dream was so morbid that was a NIGHTMARE!

    • @johnabalos6328
      @johnabalos6328 Год назад

      @@D79447 why?

    • @yaelfeder9042
      @yaelfeder9042 Год назад

      My thoughts exactly😢

    • @tisalltrue
      @tisalltrue Год назад +8

      ​@@johnabalos6328he's murdered countless people as a member of the invading military, quite literally the ones initiating the attacking.

  • @jordanleighwheatley
    @jordanleighwheatley Год назад +554

    I'd love to see an even longer version of this with all of these people. They seem like great people.

    • @kyraikeda4305
      @kyraikeda4305 Год назад +16

      seriously though. an uncut version with more questions would be awesome

    • @jordanleighwheatley
      @jordanleighwheatley Год назад +13

      @@kyraikeda4305 or that longer format show where they walk forward if they agree and sit and talk.

    • @TheRealElmoSkateTeam
      @TheRealElmoSkateTeam Год назад +2

      Read or listen to nicks books. The first of I believe is way of the reaper by Nickolas Irving he goes into detail about his deployments and there's 2 or 3 from that and I believe one or more novels that have some basis in reality but are fictional

  • @aceykerr8752
    @aceykerr8752 Год назад +126

    It's weird seeing the Reaper be so diplomatic about his experiences.

    • @nickcox7431
      @nickcox7431 Год назад +71

      It irritates me seeing The Reaper get all this hate from people who obviously don't understand and would have never risked their lives for our country.

    • @amelia6649
      @amelia6649 10 месяцев назад

      the thing is, he didn't protect his country, he murdered people on their own land, thats different

    • @ATheMansa
      @ATheMansa 7 месяцев назад +44

      @@nickcox7431 Yeah, I'm not pro-war in the slightest, but if we didn't have a military or people volunteering to serve for the rest of us we'd all be seeing the horrors of war personally.

    • @byunbaekhyun2283
      @byunbaekhyun2283 4 месяца назад

      ​@@nickcox7431what your country do is invading another countries. afghanistan, iraq, libya, all invaded by the US. don't act like you militarymen are saints, you all have never fight a defensive battle since the civil war, all the wars US participated in the 20th and 21st century are offensives.

    • @gasco4329
      @gasco4329 8 дней назад

      The freedom you Americans and us Australians have is all thanks to men like him.

  • @ravina6686
    @ravina6686 Год назад +128

    Everyone here has such a profound magnitude to them. You can tell they are all on their journey to understanding their meaning and purpose in life. Hearing them talk really put into perspective the meaningless little things I worry and stress about in life. Helping people, human connection, and empathy. That's what being human and living is all about

  • @ZMS463
    @ZMS463 Год назад +69

    This was a really great episode. The two bald gentlemen were so empathetic and compassionate, you can see their growth and compassion.
    Gentleman who works in hospital, you're not a killer.
    Gentleman who was in the military, I'm glad you sought therapy now.
    Ma'am, I dont know your full story but I am sorry you and your family went through that.
    You are all very brave. Thank you for sharing.

  • @earthscorcher
    @earthscorcher 7 месяцев назад +7

    This entire conversation is one of the most insightful I've seen on this channel. So many different situations and perspectives, and no judgement from any of the others.

  • @abbyygross
    @abbyygross Год назад +156

    using the word “killer” makes me feel icky when these people as they are so much more than that label. thank you all for being so raw and vulnerable. i understand why the episode is titled what it is and I am glad that you were able to get these people together because their voices are powerful. i’m now reimagining my definition of killer into carrying less negative connotation in my mind. this IS empathy!

    • @keya2325
      @keya2325 Год назад +23

      yes but using this title distigmatizes stories like this

    • @isailevilopez5134
      @isailevilopez5134 Год назад +10

      Black dude with the dreads is definitely a killer. In fact, all these people are killers except Franco.

    • @sox-b9999
      @sox-b9999 11 месяцев назад +8

      Nick is a cold blooded killer for sure.

  • @pedramjigaram
    @pedramjigaram Год назад +415

    I read all about Tara’s story when it happened and I was shocked to hear that’s who she was. I’m so so glad that her and her family are safe and free from that man

    • @beatricerights
      @beatricerights Год назад +2

      Who is she? Can you post the link?

    • @Bunnidove
      @Bunnidove Год назад +7

      ​@@beatricerightslook up dirty John documentary

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Год назад +13

      Her name is Terra, not Tara.

    • @stonebinge5710
      @stonebinge5710 Год назад +1

      me too!

    • @earlmartin2769
      @earlmartin2769 Год назад +2

      Idk something about this woman is off..

  • @sydneysanchez-zr7fp
    @sydneysanchez-zr7fp Год назад +257

    As a psychology student, I love Jubilee so much. This was such a great video and I genuinely feel for everyone’s pain and I loved listening to their feelings. Thank you for sharing.

  • @JayDubb3BCT
    @JayDubb3BCT 11 месяцев назад +85

    Nick is the one that represented my story. It's been since 2009 since I was on my last deployment, but I still remember everything like it was yesterday. This was a intensely interesting episode.

    • @abc4781
      @abc4781 10 месяцев назад +13

      Ngl I saw Nick Irving a d clicked on the video.

  • @Pou1gie1
    @Pou1gie1 Год назад +74

    @23:17 "Lester, choose a side" -- That was crazy to call him out like that. I've never seen them do that before, whether or not someone was straddling the fence.

    • @ediegar
      @ediegar 4 месяца назад +5

      For real that was kind of weird like it’s a sensitive topic for them and it might not be as black and white as one might think.

  • @jessieeee00001
    @jessieeee00001 Год назад +156

    They all gave such wonderful perspectives! Lester had me tearing up when he brought up all the perspectives surrounding one persons death. He is empathetic & it’s so admirable, what a great mentor he probably is. I pray they all continue to heal in ways they need 🙏🏽 thank you Jubilee for this video!

  • @joka760
    @joka760 Год назад +200

    It's kind of sad to see that this episode didn't get far more recognition. Regardless of how you may feel about some of these people, this was the first time I genuinely sat down and listened to the entire conversation. It's an enlightening conversation and really opened my eyes. Great episode.

    • @polsenOO7
      @polsenOO7 3 месяца назад

      This episode has gotten 3.8 million views. I would say it's gotten recognition.

  • @helianabanes4875
    @helianabanes4875 Год назад +16

    Great episode. Probably super healing for all of them to have people that just understand, fully, what they have been through and continue to go through.

  • @ilikefoodx20
    @ilikefoodx20 Год назад +117

    This episode reminded me why i subbed to jubilee. Lately they have been posting videos where its not interesting or just straight cringe. I feel like this video is going back to the root of this channel. Creating a meaningful dialogue with interesting and differing perspective, as well as placing a spotlight on issues many people would never think about.

  • @crazychainsawkid1
    @crazychainsawkid1 Год назад +166

    What I love about this video in comparison to the other jubilee videos is it doesn't feel like this is a select group of people being gathered here but rather a group of people with vastly different values and backgrounds but with a singular shared experience.

  • @robbindearmond3709
    @robbindearmond3709 Год назад +188

    So proud of Lester and I hope that men like Lester help the younger men in our community to value life and weigh the consequences of their decisions.

  • @NickWatlet
    @NickWatlet Год назад +60

    I hope Nick got up with Forrest about writing his book. Nick's books have all been great reads and I'd love to read Forrest's story as well.

    • @abc4781
      @abc4781 10 месяцев назад

      Are his books on Audible?

  • @arachnid33
    @arachnid33 Год назад +140

    This is absolutely one of Jubilee's best videos. Definitely their best in recent times. This really brings us towards empathy and understanding. Thanks to everyone who participated.

  • @maxwellmediainc
    @maxwellmediainc Год назад +738

    Oh wow I actually never thought of the “ plug pullers “ as killers but I guess technically they are

    • @missshannonsunshine
      @missshannonsunshine Год назад +61

      I still don’t think of it that way esp if it’s taking away life support

    • @andrear.fontes
      @andrear.fontes Год назад +24

      They are not

    • @Imzadi
      @Imzadi Год назад +78

      @@missshannonsunshinehave you ever watched someone get life support taken away? Many times they live for at least minutes. Watching and allowing death when you know you have tools to continue life at your fingertips can be very traumatic. Sorry to hear Franco and the Navy Seal didn’t feel they had a lot of coping support being that this is their career.

    • @julesk2629
      @julesk2629 Год назад +7

      I think at that point they are already gone

    • @yubikyu
      @yubikyu Год назад +11

      @@julesk2629 yeah, it's all about perspective. Some family members can't let go, they have hope that they're alive still inside. For me, I just try to think about whether they're suffering or not, I guess

  • @Outofmyshell.
    @Outofmyshell. Год назад +50

    This may have been one of the top episodes I have ever seen. So much mental health talk, rehabilitation, etc. Very respectful people were included and it was captivating.

  • @halox3xdraven
    @halox3xdraven 10 месяцев назад +7

    Ive lost a lot of people in my 34 years but ive only personally witnessed one death. I dont really recall most of it but there was a car wreck in front of my house when i was in high school. I live near Ft Moore aka Ft Benning. One car was full of soldiers and the other was a family of 4. Both drivers died. I went to the car with the family. My neighbors went to the other. The car was upside down on the ditch. I went around and asked who needed help everyone made their way out. I ran back in the house to call 911. After the call i went back out to be with them. The lady that was driving was sitting on the side of the road and i was talking with the other people. She just fell over. Gone. I was told later by an investigator that it was internal bleeding. I'll never forget that.

  • @leleite1
    @leleite1 Год назад +94

    This is one of the most interesting videos I’ve ever seen. We, as a society, are so fast to judge other people, it was very nice to hear different perspectives of such difficult topics

  • @llvtta
    @llvtta Год назад +90

    My heart is with all of these people, especially Tara, she’s such a strong woman, I truly wish her the best!

  • @jahrelladams2517
    @jahrelladams2517 Год назад +94

    I recognized Nick on Insider reacting to Sniper scenes in movies. His analysis and explanation on how being a sniper is not as easy as people think and how to correctly set up and process a sniper before a kill was very interesting to hear.

    • @dkreents
      @dkreents Год назад +4

      Read his book. The reaper, and way of the reaper.

    • @jkharris93
      @jkharris93 3 месяца назад +1

      Ok, I thought that was him!

  • @avernion
    @avernion Год назад +11

    This episode made me cry. All of them seem like awesome people. What a life’s journey they’ve all had. Very brave to be this open. Cudos.

  • @kay-kd9vc
    @kay-kd9vc Год назад +833

    The sniper is really interesting and honestly kind of scary to me. I don’t understand how you can’t feel anything in situations like that.

    • @BroJo676
      @BroJo676 Год назад +501

      I feel like his coldheartedness is coping mechanism.

    • @sharinettegonzalez23
      @sharinettegonzalez23 Год назад +167

      It’s a way to cope

    • @addie8080
      @addie8080 Год назад +1

      His job is to snipe ppl. I’m sure he is used to it now where it doesn’t take a toll on his mental health

    • @reb1098
      @reb1098 Год назад +132

      They're trained for that I guess

    • @cece5464
      @cece5464 Год назад +114

      Well he’s protecting himself and others in those situations, on top of it’s his job so it could be a coping mechanism

  • @zehrahafeez05
    @zehrahafeez05 Год назад +179

    As someone who fears death this video was a very challenging watch, but it was a great find and I appreciated the insight and stories

    • @TitaniumTurbine
      @TitaniumTurbine Год назад +5

      If I can share.. but first, my disclaimer is that I’m not remotely religious and I don’t really fear death, honestly the processing of dying isn’t as stressful as most things that we battle with day to day - some of which can take days, months, and/or years to sort out. Whereas… at the end, it’s the end… there’s nothing else to really do then (dependent on the how/why of course). I lost my parents when I was fairly young too.. and I watched them pass away. Honestly, from my perspective, if there’s anything to be fearful of or stressed about it would be the situation that a dying person leaves behind for any potential dependents/family. I always recommend having a life insurance policy, preparing a will, writing out directives, etc… no matter the age… that makes dealing with death and the fallout SO much easier for family to handle.

    • @kakonthebed
      @kakonthebed Год назад +4

      I think everyone fears death

    • @fabiola7452
      @fabiola7452 11 месяцев назад +2

      Why fear the inevitable?

    • @luna-mo3ol
      @luna-mo3ol 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kakonthebedNah, lots of people don't

    • @ravensucks
      @ravensucks 9 месяцев назад

      @@fabiola7452that’s the scary thing about it, it is inevitable. just like fearing change, it is inevitable.

  • @Olivetree80
    @Olivetree80 Год назад +151

    I can't imagine what Forrest has to go through, that's horrific

  • @WynneL
    @WynneL 11 месяцев назад +10

    This was incredible. I felt a different kind of sympathy for each person. I like that they all treated this very seriously.

  • @roxyhayes1346
    @roxyhayes1346 Год назад +289

    five killers. five completely different stories and circumstances. all really beautiful people trying their best.
    what kind of award does this segment qualify for because it should win.

    • @isailevilopez5134
      @isailevilopez5134 Год назад +2

      Should be 4 killers as Franco ain’t no killer he is just taking people off of life support.

    • @lemonz0880
      @lemonz0880 Год назад +3

      only 1 premeditated killings = nick.

    • @danliness5455
      @danliness5455 9 месяцев назад +12

      using "killers" to describe half of these people is a real stretch.

    • @amithist4455
      @amithist4455 7 месяцев назад +19

      @@danliness5455they took a life, so it isn’t a stretch. They’re killers

    • @MesochroicTV
      @MesochroicTV 4 месяца назад +4

      @@lemonz0880how was it premeditated? That means PLANNED beforehand nothing was planned.