Watch the first episode of the brand new Extraordinary Lives: Minutes With Podcast - ruclips.net/video/k8NmqSKsXNg/видео.html In this episode we talked to Craig Harrison, who was a highly-trained British Army sniper, who’s best-known for once holding the world record for the longest kill.
@@mayapapaya02 what minute did he seem like he was pitying himself lmfao that guy looks like the definition of ptsd because he never thought that what he did would end up killing a guy you can definitely SEE that he is still shocked by his body language im not saying what he did was forgivable but what im saying is that he really did not mean it he was only defending his friend.
@@Judesa he even said himself that he felt self-pity when the realisation hit him, also i’m not saying he’s not traumatised from the experience but the fact he didn’t even give an apology made me mad. just bc you feel like you can’t be forgiven doesn’t mean you don’t apologise, whether the family would accept it is up to them but he took that chance away from them. he just has the “why did this happen to me” mentality and i don’t like it. i’m not trying to start an argument, that would be stupid it’s just opinions. so i’m gonna stop replying after this
@@mayapapaya02 I really wasn’t arguing I’m sorry if it sounded that way and after reading your explanation on why u feel that way..i cant say that you’re not right because you definitely are, but at first you just bluntly said something about someone we all never know what he actually feels so that caught me off-guard
@@mayapapaya02 To be very fair to the guy... An apology wont do shit, when you killed someone. When you broke something, yeah sure. But not when you took a life by accident. One could argue that he should do it, to show remorse. But on the other hand...what would a "sorry" accomplish?
Gangsters are scary, but an very old, living ex-gangster who sits there in a suit and calmly describes how he puts a gun in another's mouth to teach him a lesson is absolutely terrifying.
i like how the murderer mentioned that girls dont feel comfortable going to police. and it was really real to hear him say "they go to their boyfriends, brothers, dads" because its true. so many women arent believed by officers and the only men they feel they can trust is family. I dont think what he did was wrong. ill never feel bad for a rapists death
go rad up on the story, she exchanged numbers with the man they murdered, baited him out, she didn't get raped, she was mad she got no attention from her boyfriend, created a web of lies that dug deeper and deeper until she got caught, and it ended with an innocent man beaten to death.
I was thinking that myself. I’m curious what type of charge he would get off of that. Because sure it was premeditated but I think that you could consider it a crime of passion fr
lots of women lie... that's why a lot don't want to go to the police, they know they'll be questioned and would rather just have some person believe whatever they say without question... we don't know if the guy actually raped her because there was no trial, that's the point of the court system.
So true , I know many girls who have gone through assault including myself , and none of them went to the police because they knew they wouldn't do anything or probably make it worse
It's crazy how the gangster who basically dehumanizes his victims in his mind practically sleeps soundly at night, while a soldier who fought for his country feels geniune guilt for the lives he's taken. It's very thought-provoking.
@@lord_azatoth Yeah, but that's the thing. What the soldier did was basically legal in the context of war, you could even argue that it can be ethical in some certain scenarios, but the gangster is just pure scum.
Unfortunately - the US soldiers (and others) deployed in Bosnia, Kosovo, syria, Iraq and Afghanistan is not deployed to defend their country….. they’re is something’s they’re not even allowed to speak about and if they do - they will be sent to jail. I’m talking war crimes and mass killings of innocent people and so on… the US ruined the Middle East
4 people that killed out of protection, missfortune, business and duty. 4 different casualties of the same thing but yet gives you different perception on each one of them. Magnificent
Please do look up the details of this case. The news articles sound quite a bit different from what this guy described - in the news about the case it was said that the girlfriend of his friend cheated with the guy they beat to death. That sounds more like a killing out of jealousy than revenge. It's hard to tell the truth here but it's good to look up different sources and not just believe blindly what a convicted murderer says.
Naw ur sick. Cause of murders like you is why in America we advocate for our citizens to carry guns, to defend themselves from sickos like you. Everyone deserves a fair trial.
By his original description and his surprise at finding out that the man had died, it seems that he got carried away, and he did not intend to kill someone. Or the other possibility is that he tells it like this to rationalise his actions. Maybe his actions were forgivable, we can't judge without knowing more details. But I take issue with the suggestion that he took the best possible course of action. He is likeable and clearly has principles. That doesn't change the fact that his actions definitely ruined lives.
@@romywilliamson4981 Ruined lives of rapists and families of rapists? Who cares. If you started violence first by taking a woman sovereignty over her own body and her family members respond wirh force, and possibly lethal force (which should be the response of a father a brother or a husband of the victim) that isn't immoral. The only immoral act was the rapist's one.
@@heitorlima6726 so you just take his word that his victim was a rapist. Because a murderer and petty criminal are really trustworthy. Get a grip of yourself and read the case. He’s a thug and deserves no platform for spewing his nonsense.
I really sympathise with that veteran. I will never forget when my fiancé was in Afghanistan and he sent me a voice note during the night which said “we’re penned in. I think we’re going to die. I’m so sorry. I love you more than anything”. I then never heard from him for 3 days because they needed to go silent. I knew deep down that they would tell me if he had died but I just kept thinking “what if they don’t have my details?” He finally made contact and I just sobbed and sobbed. He was sent home around 2 weeks later, which was unfortunately a few days before bonfire night. Every time a firework went off, I could literally see the colour drain from his face. We eventually got to bed and I woke up earlier hours and saw him sat by the window, with a knife in his hand rocking backwards and forwards. I asked was he ok and he just started screaming at me - it was like he was a completely different person. Each day after that, he would snap at me, become violently angry over the smallest of things and disappear for hours at a time. I had to inform the army, I had no choice. He hated me for it but since receiving help, he now thanks me every day for saving his life because he genuinely wanted to kill himself. These men and women endure so much and it is truly heartbreaking.
@@lmao2351 It’s hard because they don’t want to be social anymore. We can’t find them after they go homeless and we can’t confirm their positions or identities. We’re trying but maybe we have to be more tight about our soldiers coming home.
@@taitsmith8521 What fight? He never mentioned a fight, he tells that things escalated and he felt that he needed to go aggressive, the guy who died wasn´t beating anyone, was just being aggressive, people really need to understand that you can´t just go there fighting and shooting people, because this can happen to you and isn´t something for you to feel proud i can guarantee to you... Ruin your life fighting for a problem that you didn´t even started it is the most shameful way to ruin your life...
The dude with the baseball bat story really went full circle. Started with how he always felt like he defended his friends as a kid, and then ended with he’s a defender, and has to defend those he loves.
It even goes further if you read the 2004 article to it: The victim got the Nummer from the girl while driving down the street with his BMW. They met up and had sex. Her boyfriend found out and the girl blamed it on the guy, setting up a honey trap for the victim. Then the two guys jumped the victim, hitting him multiple times on the head, crushing his skull. Both guy got arround 12 years and the girl got a minor sentence for conspiracy. The guys took the the possibility to hurt someone even though the story from the girl propably didn't make sense in the first place.
@@rafael2886 basically the girl should be arrested for murder and i would say more for the damages caused to these guys as well the guy who actually killed and the boyfriend
I can't imagine having to observe someone living their life for 4 whole days and in the end you have to put a bullet through their head, they don't even know you exist, they won't even hear your shot, they will simply cease to exist under a second because you pulled the trigger. That's tough man. Vets deserve way more psychological help than they have.
Absolutely. In America, you're homeless with no resources. In Mexico, your only choices are to join a drug cartel or go back to poverty, in Canada, if you make the mistake of using your VA for some medical help, the people there try their absolute hardest to convince you that assisted suicide is the best option because getting medical help is a burden to everyone around you.
RLTW Been there done that. It's less about the job and more about finding out you were lied to. It's war combatants die but to realize the non combatants lost is devastating. That's probably why I have severe trust issues. At one point I thought there's something wrong with me and that only made it worse. I still hate the thanks for your service line. They created a monster then threw me back among normal folks. That monster is almost like a split personality that I keep locked away but for a long time I didn't know which one was the real me if that makes sense. I was so terrified at it being let out I allowed myself to be literally abused in many cases. Took almost 25 years to feel human again.
One guy threw an unlucky punch, one guy defended a girl, one guy killed with no remorse, and another killed with permission. All committed the same act but all were punished differently whether it be jail or emotional hell, etc. Strange world we reside in.
My dad is a one punch killer, one hell of a story. Since he's a security guard and the guy he killed was a drunk partygoer who did not have the word "stop" in his vocabulary, he did not get in serious trouble for this, but he says it changed the way he viewed his job and his position. He never wants to punch someone in the face again.
I tried to be a security guard and they wanted me to be violent, the guy hiring me thought I was Stoopid or something because I wanted to defuse situations and not start chaos and use my hands to stop something. People are crazy
I can’t imagine the level of confusion the one punch guy had to deal with, trying to understand that you took a life with one hit must have been so difficult to comprehend
Fighting is so fucking dangerous. People need to realise that this isn't something light. One punch to the head can fuck you up. You can break someone's eye socket and make them blind with just one punch. A friend of mine lost his dad in the same way, one punch to the head and bam, he's gone.
Nah i dont feel any sympathy what so ever. Man was a weak dog, took the coward shot and paid the price. He'll think twice next time he considers king hitting someone. Literally. King hitters are people who can't fight, but they want to be THAT guy. Its pitiful and disgusting. Frankly idgaf about his feelings and neither should you. King hitters deserve nothing less than they so gracefully inflicted onto someone else.
I wouldn’t call the first man a murderer because murder implies an intent to kill and he didn’t seem like it was his intention to kill, but then again I don’t know what the court ruled and why
i've left a man crippled after he hit his head in the curb, i was 16 and so was he. theres not a single day that i don't think about what i did to his life.
@@ericknorskr8568 I don't at all condone what you did.. but that's the past, I don't judge you and you should stop punishing yourself. Give your regret and shame to Jesus and he will forgive you and fill you with peace and purpose. I love you and God bless you
Feel sorry for the soldier, 21 years in the army and 30mins to kick him out. That's gratitude for his service and by the sounds of it, it ruined his life. I hope he's ok and getting some help. Shocking story
I just want to hug him. I think he's a tougher person in real life (to deal with such debilitating mental illness) than a soldier. That he even acklowledges his feelings and weaknesses allow others space to do the same. Nothing but love for him.
@@jessicadutridge9882 His book is well worth a read, sounds like he’s getting better but I guess almost none will ever be 100% after war and it’s quite sad - he seems like a lovely guy
@@edwardal7980 PTSD is scary thing,Friend. It's always happend to soldier after war to traumize him. That is why I think married life are important to soldier. Sometimes,I think only family can distracted man from it.
What I learned: The Murderer - Our justice system is flawed. The one-punch - Realise that there can be life-changing consequences for even the smallest of actions. The Gangster - There are good and bad people doing good and bad things. The Sniper - We are not supporting the people who we ask to do the worst things.
We don't ask snipers to kill someone from our homes, the government does. The responsibility should be on the government. Besides, soldiers knew what they're signed up for, although that doesn't make it easy when they actually do it..
You, like most people take everything at face value. According to police, they were beating the dude in the head with the bats while he was on the ground, helpless. He described it very differently so it's uncertain who to believe. Also, some stories said that she slept with the guy and it was Allen's friend that wanted revenge against him for sleeping with his girl while they were having problems. It was written that she exchanged numbers with the guy, they had a date and had sex afterwards. Her claim to rape may or may not have been true but she definitely turned on Allen and her boyfriend by getting a plea deal even though she was ultimately the cause of the killing, it seems. She actually lured the guy out as a "honey pot." It was a setup. She may have wanted to do that because of a rape or maybe to save her relationship after she slept with someone and the boyfriend got jealous. Who knows?
I feel so bad for the guy who threw the punch. People don’t think about how much you can hurt someone with a punch. He was just standing up for his friends and yeah he attacked someone, but he probably just thought he’d give them a black eye and that was it. He didn’t expect to actually seriously injure them let alone kill them. Poor man. You can see how guilty he feels Edit: I genuinely didn’t think this comment would get so much feedback, cuz my comments usually drift by with hardly any attention. Ya’ll really have zero critical thinking skills if you think I can’t feel sympathy for the killer and the victim simultaneously. Here I am just sharing my thoughts and everyone really had to jump down my throat with stuff like “oh so you dont feel bad for the victim’s family” “dont feel bad for him because he killed someone so he’s automatically a horrible person” Don’t waste your time on this thread, it’s just people repeating the same stuff over and over again, either accusing me of being heartless or defending me and the man in the video. Not worth your valuable time.
I don't, He doesn't seem to feel guilty at all. He says "Guy who passed away" no its the guy you killed. He never says he feels sorry but instead says he feels self pitty.
@@subzerowashere6920 I dont blame him for avoiding language that puts blame on him, especially if he feels guilty. He knows he's responsible but thats hard to admit verbally, thats the way I see it anyway. Saying he felt self-pity was what he felt in the moment when it first happened which is totally understandable. He didn't mean to kill someone so of course he would feel like "oh why would this happen to me" "how unlucky for me" I think that's a totally understandable thing to feel in that moment. Humans aren't pure and saintly, we are all selfish and concerned about ourselves first
@@subzerowashere6920 It wasn't the punch that killed him it would of been the guy hitting his head on the ground when he hit the floor. So it should be accidental manslaughter not murder. Because he's intention was not to kill him when he threw the punch it was to shut him up show dominance. Men can't even defend themselves now with their fists because if you were knock an attacker out and they hit their head on the ground and die you're suddenly a murderer. And put in the same prison cell as a serial killer and pedophile.
The sniper really hits home, to just see that big masculine strong man just break down and saying he's only here because of his wife and dog, thank you to all who have served and continue to fight that battle of PTSD. You are not alone and we thank you.
Don't thank them for their service, thats just insulting to the man given the context. Their service was killing poor people in distant lands under jingoistic pretext. We sympathize with the man and what he was forced to do, but the people he followed were evil, and always have been. Hopefully he can find peace from what his "service" did to him.
@@nerysghemor5781 the point is nobody needed to go in his place. that man is a victim of warmongering western politics as much as the people he killed or all the afghans who suffer under the taliban regime. I don´t think that´s an evil man, but thats the sad thing about war: you can trick good people who genuinely want to serve and sacrifice themselves for the greater good into fighting for twisted and evil interests. that man could have been a firefighter for example and saved lots of lives lives, instead he was told it was more helpful to take them. Obviously militaries have their place as not everyone has good intentions and sometimes things have to be resolved by forced but thats mostly not what has been happening.
This wasn't what I expected. These men carry pain with them every day - it was brave to be so vulnerable so that others might learn from their experiences.
@@real_rutmen Neither did the baseball bat killer, that motherfucker feels like he did something good because beated to death an innocent because "the girlfriend of my friend said"...
@@real_rutmen He carries the pain of manslaughter to a civilian, someone not in the game, so he cant use an excuse like calling them a "rat" to feel no remorse
All but One Punch has been scared and came to terms with it. For me Sniper knew his role but it’s always been said the army doesn’t back people when they go so he now has to live it alone.
Ex Gangster knew what his business was “Murderer”(who I think isn’t in the wrong) had sorrow in his eyes but also the past is the past One Punch Man had remorse cuz he knew he did it on an accident he even said he didn’t believe what was happening Sniper knew he had to do what he had to do but it still haunts him
you could see it coming. his eyes turned blank.. a lot of severely traumatized people have this look in their eyes, and especially when they have flashbacks.
The Sniper so real and relatable. A hulk of a man tearing up when describing the phone call with his wife. It just tells you how much of a struggle it is for veterans. But seeing, that he can tear up infront of a camera also means he has probably made a lot of progress during therapy. I whish him well.
@@roymunson1 For real. It's fucking evil is what it is. I don't blame soldiers that are already in for being fond of the military, but if you're on the outside you can't just pretend the "business" of military institutions is anything but anti-humanitarian.
@@kareemali5011 yes there are always two sides to a story. And btw. I didn't specify a nationality of the veterans. I mean all of them. Im not american and I known that my country ignores the stuggles of the veterans too.
The Sniper really depicts the truth about war. It doesnt matter if you win, at the end everybody loses. War is truly the worst thing humans do to each other (and that also includes their own people).
oh really? over 4 billion babies dismembered, murdered in their own mothers wombs in the last 47 years alone? just a comment. sin is a reproach to any people. those who sin are slaves to sin. GOD says come let us reason together, should I not judge this sin? if you had people killing and dismembering your children,what would you do? judgment shall return unto righteousness! most only seek GOD when they need HIM. or should we say, people only seek for GOD , JESUS CHRIST when they are in trouble. when everything is good,it's party time. the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the heart!!! we are not nice. all of human history is our witness.
Old Wally just strolls in here preaching about abortion I assume. Swinging his Bible around thumping you here and thumping you there. That will teach you to have an opinion about war now won't it?
@@madd8ns i know right? I mean op is talking about how war just ruins lives of everyone involved, and Grandpa Willy is just being is old crazy self. The funny thing is instead of sounding morally correct he just sounds bat shit insane.
The dog saving the sniper got me. My cat saved my life. I was in my closet ready to pull the trigger. She started to meow and scratch at the door, and I woke up. Family didn't matter. The people who would see it didn't matter. Friends didn't matter. But a small animal who just wants some attention at the right time can take it all back. I can't help but sob every time I think about it...
Depression is brutal like that. All those family members, friends, other human beings? They can take care of themselves, they don't depend on you. But that little cat? It needs you. On a metaphysical level, it demands responsibility from you and gives you a reason to stay. Little buddy just had to meow and remind you about just one tiny reason you're here. And one tiny reason is all you need. Stay strong, pal. Keep finding more and more tiny reasons to remind you that you're needed here.
Sending you the biggest hug. I have cats and I know they would save my life if I ever come across to a situation like that. As I was writing this, one of my cats came to me haha.
When i came home from Afghanistan i went out drinking with my fellow marines. When i got home That night i found myself angry, full of adrenaline. I made it to my bed and started apologizing to my wife and crying heavily. Sayimg i didn't want to but i had to. She thought i cheated on her at the bar 😂 only after she got me calmed down she called her mom and she made the connection. War is hell. I never thought it would bother me, change me, rob me of my ability to show empathy. Finally after 5 years of addiction and being passively suicidal, i got help and im 4 years sober and enjoy life again. Hope the others out there struggling keep your head up. It gets better. Dont give up. Ive lost family and friends through scuicide and no one deserves that. Dont put your pain on everyone that loves you. You are loved. You're are cared for. Stay and live for those who couldnt make it through.
The guy who killed the rapist reminds me of one of this story about a prisoner who found out his cellmate was a child molester because he told him he was (for some reason) and I feel like this lad would resonate with a quote that prisoner said when they asked him why he did it: He said: “Only God can Judge a monster like that… I just set up the appointment”
There's a disturbing contrast between a soldier who fell into a deep depression for killing a man even though it was his duty and another who killed tens of men and doesn't seem to have any kind of bad feelings about it
it just shows the power of the human mind. the sniper stayed with his normal mindset and even further personified the people he would have to kill, which was the exact opposite of what the other guy said to do. He was absolutely right that if you don't dehumanize the people you kill, it's going to fuck you up.
@@tonyflamingosucks6590 of course not. whether or not i've killed someone doesn't mean that i'm wrong when i'm just restating what the people who have killed people said. it is a common practice for soldiers to view their enemies as inhuman. that's what I hear about at least
When the man with PTSD shared the way he felt it broke me down pretty bad. It’s insane that humans can harbor these feelings and still carry on living even if it’s hell on earth.
We really don't what a person maybe feeling deep inside...most people have faced worst and I am so sorry for them It really must be so hard going on living normally actually acting to live normally
Well you always have a choice. Either keep living or end it. Thats just a fact. And why bother ending it when it might get better and maybe you see better days. I think he felt that when he saw his dog looking at him
@@likemysnopp More likely, when he saw his dog, he thought about one of two things: Either he'd be leaving the dog behind and she wouldn't understand or that he'd have to take her with him so she wasn't left there looking at his bleeding head. From personal experience, it's easy to rationalize how everyone else will understand and will get on with their lives after a couple days or months, but when you're dog is there watching you, you start worrying about them. They won't understand the noise, the blood, or your absence. They'll be terrified. Or maybe they'll come over and start licking the blood and gray matter from your skull, trying to keep you. You wonder how you can leave them behind. Then you know there is only one way to NOT leave them behind. That's to kill the one thing that trusts and loves you unconditionally. It's a hitch in your logic that suddenly spares your life.
Craig, i dont think you will ever see this message, but i just wanted to thank you for your service in the Kosovo war, im Kosovan/Albanian and i just felt the need to express my gratitude for you and for every other soldier who risked their life for us in such a difficult time. We will never forget nor forgive about the massacres that occurred in Kosovo at the time. Without your help i wouldn't be here to express how thankful we Albanians are for your service. I just hope that you acknowledge how many innocent lives you have saved. May you and your family find peace and live a happy long life my friend. Love from Kosovo 🇽🇰
Your comment brought back many memories. Was in Kosovo back in 01 and spent quite a bit of time interacting with the locals. Amazing people who endured so much. Wish them all the best.
I have a friend who served time as a young teenager for killing a guy who was bullying his friend for being homosexual. They fought and it was broken up, they both walked away and went home. The bully went to sleep and never woke up. My friend is a very quiet, friendly person and has many horrible stories from living in prison for somewhere around 5 and a half years for this. When he talks about it you can see his regret and his pain from knowing he ended someone's life, even if he didn't mean to.
He didn’t mean to? How did he kill the bully? Was it from some injury dealt to the bully during the fight, perhaps he went to where he lived and killed him there?
Thank you for your service soldier. Please get the help you need and don't do that to yourself. I did 21 years in prison and have PTSD as well. But I'm here.. and so are you still.
I’ve got PTSD from childhood sexual abuse from my grandad, I’ve got two kids and I’m determined to break the cycle of abuse, poverty and crime but PTSD is a hard disorder to live with, flashbacks, panic attacks, nightmares ect. It’s hard, really hard. I’m lucky I escaped heroin addiction which was my vice from the age of 15…
Not saying she wasn't raped, but what if the guy was falsely accused , then the man would have died for nothing, that's what makes investigations important. If the man did rape her then this guy should have shoved that bat right up that man's candy ass
I wonder if anyone is aware that this is the same thing an Islamic terrorist believes as he kills people he sees as morally evil. I think people need to be very careful when they say they'll die for a belief. It may not be as moral as one may think.
My uncle was a sniper, similar story to this guys but there was no one to save him and unfortunately he shot him self in 2011 when I was 6. Never really knew him so I wasn’t upset or anything, I would have just liked to know his story a bit more and I can’t ask my older family members about him because they don’t really like talking about him and kind of just ignore that it ever happened
That soldier’s way of telling his story really makes you understand how inhumane and damaging warfare is. I always thought it was so weird just making young , good men go out and ruin their lives, then just let them be with all this pain when they come back.
That's crazy because I'm planning to work for the military, not the army, but the military. It is basically an office job that's 3 to 4 times the pay of a normal office job
@@ShadyzOfficial they are suffering in completely different ways, not right to compare the 2 at all. A freak accident is no where near the same experience as war. I have a soft spot for veterans as well, both of my brothers were in the military.
as an active duty member the sniper’s story really hits home. i don’t have a tactical job like him but i get it when he said his dog saved his life. depression is easy to fall into in the military and our spouses and dogs really keep us stable. Edit: Wow thanks for all the support!
The one punch guy I can relate with. Years ago, I ended up in a similar situation, but luckily for the both of us the guy didn't die. One punch, he went down, and started seizing. I was arrested and while I was in custody, the police kept saying that I better hope he lived. The emotions, the fear, and thinking my life was over. All over boozing in a bar and the exact words that started it...I can't even remember.
With the One Punch guy, you can really tell that his situation broke him to the core. I feel so bad for him since I am a 18-19 year old college kid like he was so this one really hit home for me.
Dude got off easy. At every point in his story he had the power to choose to stop, and he didn’t. He wanted to prove how hard he was, and someone else had to pay the price.
@@pointynoodle Acting as if you've never acted without thinking, sure he had the power to choose to stop, but at the time, I'm sure the adrenaline of the whole situation got to his head. It's not like he wanted to kill the guy, he just got a call from his friends saying they got into a heated conflict and needed help.
@@swisscheese6481 yes but fact is he did kill a guy and that man’s mum can never see him again, his partner can never hear his voice again. So many lives ruined on both sides over an argument when that man threw that punch to act the hard man, stupid stupid mistake but he is to blame entirely and is accountable for his own actions. He took a life and did less that 2 years that’s getting off very easy considering the man he killed now has no years.
@@bassyturtle3828 Two guys don't walk away. One guy kills the other guy. The guy that died is in the wrong as much as the guy that killed him? Is that what you just said? If so the guy that killed him should suffer the same fate if they are both equally wrong for not walking away.
Wow. I thought I'd just hear some stories and go on with my day, but the One Punch Guy and the Sniper brought me almost to tears, which happens rarely. Much respect on their strenght and courage to go in front of a camera and tell their stories!
I always question how a person who kills someone to protect someone is labeled a "murderer." And those who killed thousands in wars are labeled as "heroes."
Socially acceptable killing, people are unaware how far this goes, many think it stops at hypothetical jihadists, the reallity is that it stops at nothing.
Copaganda and propaganda will do that. However, I’m in sincere doubt any individual military personnel has killed over 1,000 people, let alone that being a regular occurrence. Also while some people do join for the idea of murdering a person, that’s an insane minority when compared to those joining due to financial insecurity, homelessness, inability to go to college by other means, etc. not that all vets are amazing heroes. But to assume they’re all awful murder loving crazy people, is the same as assuming all cases of murder are due to murder loving crazy people. There’s an insane amount of context you’re skipping.
Well there's a huge difference. As a soldier, you are employed to kill for your country for the purpose of protecting it. That is, risking his life so that you and others can live freely at home and in other places. The guy killing "someone to protect someone" is a bit of a false statement - because if that happened exactly that way in the moment it would have been called Defence of others and he wouldn't have been charged. The reason why he is a murderer is because he took the law in to his own hands which you can not do in a country based upon state law. He had no legal right to kill the man. Reason being, that you can not take his word as fact because you didn't hear from the other person (despite me not believing so, there is, e.g., the possibility that his friends gf lied.) Personally, I totally understand his actions but this is not how society can work - it would be total Chaos and the Wild West. Due process is a must and his going above and beyond the law is what got him to be called a murderer. If he became a police officer and shot someone he saw was getting raped then he would also be called a hero and not a murderer.
The one punch guy, hits me hardest. My father used to tell me son, you could hit someone and they could fall and hit they’re head and boom. You killed someone. Scares me to this day.
@@dramalexi rapists, pedos, looters, a lot of ppl deserve to be sucker punched.. when you've experienced danger, all that fair fight bs goes out the window.. death is what you sign up for when you fight, youre just lucky if everyone survives
I got sucker punched in the chest once and let me tell you, it fuckin HURTS and it felt like death was brushing my sides for a second. I hate anyone who does sucker punches, if they don't have a valid reason or the situation calls for it, then you can bet I ain't really gon' be on their side.
Indeed, this is the same reason I think it's ridiculous not to wear a helmet when on a skateboard, rollerblades or whatever. You know how easy and fast it is to die with even a light head bonk on the ground. Sure most people don't fall on their head but it really doesn't take much, 1 single bad fall on an off day could end it all. Which is why when hitting people you should aim for the stomach area, Body shots hurt more anyway and they tend to be less dangerous on the fall and much harder to avoid also always wear a helmet when skating.
I know a guy who killed another person with one punch. I know another who was killed with one punch. Guy was a business owner who had a fight break out in front of his business. He ran outside to try and break it up. One guy assumed he was about to be attacked and turned and punched the business owner as business owner was running towards him. He cracked his skull on the ground. Just like that. There’s a reason boxing and mma take place on mats. Guys who die with one punch don’t die from the punch. They die from the concrete impact on their heads.
Both the one punch man and the man with the bat hardly deserve the title of murderer. I feel the man with the bats trial seemed wildly unfair that the women was not allowed to speak at the trial. His heart was in the right place. I hate justice systems everywhere
In the end it shouldn't be, and isn't, legal to take the law into your own hands. There is nothing ok with taking bats to a man's head because someone else asked you to, no matter how shitty they are, because what if you're wrong? He's definitely far from the worst out there (bloke probably was a rapist in the end, not much loss there) but his lack of remorse is concerning. And bullshit he didn't realise you were gonna kill him swinging a bat at his head.
@@TurkeyMuncher117 It isn’t legal, but it may be “just”, the two are not one in the same. Rephrasing my admittedly stupidly phrased original reply, there are some really depraved and completely evil acts that place you as less than welcome on this planet, putting it in a totally normal way. And a lot of the replies I’ve gotten are right, you cannot right a wrong using one sin (killing another human) to try to fix another (the damage that human caused); that much is true. Repentance and reform are always the #1 option. But there are some incredibly evil people on the planet who would do nothing more than pollute it until the day they passed naturally. It’s up to us as individual societies to deal with these “people”, define them as either human individuals or monsters. In my head; and like OP said, there are certain lines some human beings cross that make it hard for me or them to see these beings as anything other than animals. I know what defines someone who crosses that line has been and always will be out of my hands, so I can only offer what I think. But I do think there are certain things that just cross a line, and you really cant help the natural instinct that was placed in a good plenty of us normal people to go out and do “just” things, and it’s hard for me to tell if killing someone who’s crossed that line into the territory of a theoretical complete monster is just or not. Death is a cruel punishment, one that is final. If carried out by the hands of many capable and competent individuals, I think it can be just and merciful. But it can also be violent and unnecessary, cruel and evil. One day I’ll be able to ask questions and have all of my answers for certain. For now, I’ll continue to believe that what these men did was “just”, even if they potentially could’ve missed the mark and I wouldn’t know; as I didn’t and don’t want to read into their individual stories. I’ll also continue to believe in god, and if what I think is incorrect, its a mistake I can only hope I’m forgiven for. God smiles upon all works of good, It’s my question to him what concept of justice is correct.
The guy being like "How can you go to the police? They JUST charged a cop for that." just hit the nail on the head so hard. It's beyond scary when you don't think you can go to anyone but your immediate family and friends for help.
It's unreasonable to paint all law enforcement as corrupt... but definitely reasonable to believe they likely won't have the evidence to hold a rapist, or be doubtful the justice system will be able to convict. Vigilante justice doesn't have any of those technicalities, but uninhibited vengeance opens a margin of error that could possibly create more regret than satisfaction, if satisfaction can be gained at all. Personally, I wouldn't leave it in the hands of the justice system to do a flawless job, especially with legalities that have over-complicated something that should be straightforward. If civil justice is your choice or only option tho, Police integrity is honestly the least of your worries...
But for God's grace it could be a lot of us in that position. I should also add that I've taken a few beatings so be aware that it's alright dishing it out but every dog etc!
The way this sniper talks about his wife and dog saving him from suicide, makes the fact that so many servicemen and women get cheated on while serving and dumped when they come back so much worse. Really puts the veteran suicide rate into perspective
Not only that, they are forced to deal with horror as a job..come back, and end up unable to go back to 9-5 "normalcy"- while there's more Awareness, ptsd etc. It doesn't change the fact that they're often left behind suffering...homeless..addicted ..disabled..it is wrong
Who cares? Wb the innocent civilians they've killed and THEIR families? These people are literally trained assassins. They're just committing these heinous acts under the guise of 'protecting their nation'. F them.
Horrible how the first guy was protecting a rape victim and got a 12 year sentence yet the guy who was in a bar fight and killed someone got two years.
@@2500hd_idk I think that neither one of them had intention to kill. I just figured that, in the eyes of the law, the baseball bat assault was more aggressive than a single bar fight that ended incorrectly.
@@masongenke5439 Ah, the first guy showed up with a baseball bat mate!! What do you think is going to happen when one hits another on the head multiple times? Gee some people !!
PTSD is miserable. I was gonna check out too but my niece saved my life. I was stepping off the chair as my niece opened the door. I quickly acted like I was fixing a pipe in the basement. I’ve never told anyone that. Would be 10 years ago tomorrow. 🎉 since 2012 every Christmas is my new birthday. So thankful I didn’t give in. We just celebrated her 17th birthday🎉
It’s interesting to see how everyone reacted to they’re killings. The first man rationalized it with knowing there’s one less rapist in the world which I agree with. The gangster has no issue with killing other criminals because to him when they entered his “business” (crime) they essentially agreed to the possibility of death. The only problem the gangster had with killing was when he killed someone who hadn’t signed that business contract so therefore did not deserve to be killed. The other 2 guys, the one punch killer and the sniper, were clearly messed up mentally by their crimes. The one punch killer never meant to kill the guy but still deeply regrets doing so and the sniper I think was more messed up by his experiences which the killing did not help. Overall it’s weird to notice how you agree with the murderer and the gangster because they only killed criminals while still empathizing with the one punch man and the sniper despite them all being killers
@@risottopose9970 I'm literally saying this from personal experience: Never, ever, EVER immediately believe it when a woman says she's been raped and doesn't want to go to the police but instead wants you to "deal with it". That's just a recipe for disaster. There's a VERY good reason why the concept of innocent until proven guilty exists. It may sound harsh, or it may sound misogynistic to the "believe all women" crowd, but that's the reality. It is NOT your business to deal out vigilante justice over a SUSPECTED rape. Because you'd never be able to forgive yourself if she did indeed lie. She'd have ruined an innocent human being's life and you'd have helped her in that. Honestly I'm just glad I learned this valuable lesson soon enough, cuz I was about to do something very fucking stupid all because a degenerate woman decided to cover up her cheating by trying to ruin a kid's life. Again, you're not a vigilante. You're not a superhero. You're not James Bond. You're just a regular person. If a woman comes up to you and says this shit you give her your sympathies and ask her to go to the cops. No more, no less.
i hope allen knows how good he is. got so emotional hearing him talk about what life is like for victims. he’s not even one himself but he understands it more than many people. i wish i could thank him for giving me hope.
I would assume it's because it was different in each case, one guy did it because he wanted to defend something and killed one person, the other was an accident and also killed one person, the old man had a code and method and those helped him come out the other side relatively ok but the sniper? The sniper watched the people he killed for a long time and he can't say he did it because he wanted to protect or because it was an accident, no, it was orders from someone he doesn't really know and so he killed and killed, and killed some more, when he's back home how can he justify himself?
A dialogue between all four of these men in the same room would be phenomenal. So many different perspectives and experiences around the taking of life - while I'm sure they know a lot, I imagine there's a lot they could teach each other too. When you cross people from different walks of life, expect the unexpected.
Interesting to hear that the sniper and the ex-gangster had two opposite approaches. The gangster dehumanized his target, to not see him as a human anymore. Whereas the sniper extra humanized them. Making up little names for them and studying their daily activities. Pretty big difference
Sniper - all got a bit real eh, One Punch Wonder- Standard piss up got a bit pete tong. Lad culture hmmm Gangster. Old school has good rules. Top Marks. Monster Man Demaker. well. What would next man do ? Points BACK TO SNIPER AND ONE PUNCH. Our culture creates ignorance,fear and political correctness enforced tolerance, Our culture creates such a mess. SNIPER It was your job, what were you going to shoot? tin cans, and the unhealthy attitude of pet naming targets s a perfect example of institutionalised hatred,. Beasting, Gangsters have no support, no counselling without recriminations,no pension plan, its a gang all the same. at the very least there is a current of disposable wet workers.Free lance, recruited whatever, the 80's spawned a lot, h
This is one of the first times i’ve been so interested in a video that’s 27 minutes of pure barely cut interviewing without any other sounds that i sat through the whole thing
I agree to a point. You don't need multiple people with bats to take care of one guy. I can tell you from experience, if you're even a somewhat competent fighter, you know how fragile the human body is. Especially with blows to the head and neck. I'm a natural protector, caused a lot of harm, and protected women I've never met before because of the actions the men did. You don't need a bat, let alone two men with bats. There's a definitive fine line between protection and overkill
It's odd how every person killed people in different ways but for the same reason: loyalty. The first 2 did it for loyalty to friends, the third was loyalty to a family that their parents liked, and the last was loyalty to country. There's also a certain level of morality to the reason they killed.
There's no morality in killing. Period. Anyone who disagrees with that is a conniving, desensitized, sociopath. Which is sadly about 2/3 of our population, unfortunately.
Man I feel so bad for the sniper guy, he looks completely defeated. He went to war serving his country and when he started showing signs of PTSD, they just kick him out without giving him benefits or getting him some kind of help?? That is so fucking sad and cruel. I really hope hes able to find peace and live a normal life again someday
There are 10,000's of stories like this. I'm a 9 year Army vet myself. I used to work with homeless veterans to get them back on their feet. Pretty sad
The worst part is that the little help American vets get is just as bad. Some people don't get any benefits and live on the streets, but my dad got a service dog and increased retirement pay. Im grateful that my dad is better now, but knowing that some of his friends have gotten so little help that we had to watch their kids while their dad gets drunk really hurts. I wish it was easier to help.
No murderer but I’ve dealt with depression. The sniper talking about his dog saving his life made my cry so hard. If it wasn’t for my dog Ragnar, I don’t know where I would be right now. Was gonna check out myself but getting him gave me purpose & a sense of life again.
Same boat, but for me it's my sister. And I just recently (one month ago) survived kidney-cancer. Granted, it took my whole right kidney, at the age of 34, but man do I appreciate life a bit more now. I'm lucky I survived, I'm lucky they found it in the first place. There is always something to love in this world man, even if we have to dig through piles and piles of shit to find it. I've been kicked down, I've been spat on, I've been beaten, but I'll tell you one thing: I'll rather die standing, than live my life kneeling down. I'll endure any pain, but I will NEVER give up. For my little sister.
@@kingwormgusher5354 I'm sure he didn't and sure he wouldn't have done it if so. But too many young men die from coward punches and the moment he chooses to swing is the moment he loses all sympathy from me.
@@cob0001 of course if its your brother or pal you'd want revenge but you can clearly see the pain in the lads eyes. Doesnt excuse his actions of course but lets have some context on this individuals situation and the fact he was 18, probably pissed up an full of adrenalin. Personally ive never laid a hand on anyone that didnt hit me first but I do feel for this guy.
"People called me a gangster, I didn't like it. One guy called me a gangster, so I stuck a gun in his mouth and *educated* him that I weren't a gangster." I can only imagine the editor who tagged him as an ex-gangster watching this after it has been posted. 😂😂
This will sound horrible but oh well "she called me a rapist, I smacked her in the face and chained her to the floor and fucked her brains out while educating her that I wasnt a rapist" I mean... cant claim that its not similar.
That geezer is more badass than most people i know irl truly the kind of man that end up a videogame caracther that dies crying im despair in the hands of a even more badass protagonist
Hearing the sniper's story made me emotional. It takes a lot of courage to tell his story. Even with 20 years of service... it is absolutely heartbreaking hearing about his fight with PTSD. Thank you for your service sir. Thank you for telling us your story.
I feel as though I have seen quite a few veterans with THAT stare, like you would lose them for a second. Thank you for everything you do. Hang in there my man, respect.
Hearing Craig tell his story really hits home for me. My childhood best friend served, and when he'd talk about his tours of duty he had the exact thousand yard stare. He wouldn't really talk about it a lot, but when he did you could always just feel the pain shaking behind his voice. It'd been about a year after he was relieved of duty when he took his own life. Not a day goes by that I wish I could've done something more to help relieve his mind from the darkness that followed him home.. Its been a year since he left, and I'm not sure life will ever feel quite the same. Hopefully peace finds Craig, welcome home brother.
I am so sorry to read your pain and words. War is awful but even worse is that the soldiers being abandoned with their traumas and ptsd and more after they've done their duty.
sorry to read that mate, war is bad, your friend had nothing to do with it except he served for his country and that got him...but he is in a better place, otherwise he would have been haunted and tortured for life, stay safe mate, i wish you the best
Condolences, having lost several friends to their own demons myself. Veterans are horribly affected in particular. Recently saw Mike Jones of Garand Thumb in a great interview on The Bridge ( oiTfRWTr75c ) where the host Travis Haley, a vet himself, mentioned he had recently lost his *thirty-second* veteran friend to suicide. We need to get our priorities straight as a culture.
This was something I respected about my ex that others thought was odd when they heard about it. I asked him how he could remain so calm about racist things people would say to him. He told me that he would never throw a punch over something that he wasn’t ready to kill for, because sometimes a single punch would kill a person, and you never know when that could happen. So he never got mad enough to punch someone due to that mindset. Put things into perspective for me
I've thrown a few drunk punches in my time, all of which were done with no serious intent, more of a tap on the head as a warning basically, but obviously with that, you piss the other person off and so I've been punched full force back and I'm lucky to be alive myself to be fair so I'd say worry about the other person doing damage to you just as much as the damage you'd be doing to them
When I was in High School, we had a talk where four previous inmates came to talk about their lives, experiences, crime and life inside prison. The host explained that one of the four people who came to speak was actually a convicted murderer, and we had to decide who it was. In the end, it was revealed that the articulated university lecturer/host was actually the murderer who had punched someone during an argument whilst on a night out. He explained how he never set out to do this, and it lives with him daily that that one fatal blow (he punched once) caused his life to change completely. It was an incredible talk. This series was fantastic, too.
I really hope that Sniper is okay. You can see how much pain he's in reliving those memories. He should not feel ashamed of his trauma, and I am glad he's working through things. This film also is incredibly well oriented and respectfully shot, lots of meaning is found in the silence between sentences. Props Lad Bible!
@@joeday397 I think it suffices to say he's "learned his lesson" at this point, if that is what you're getting at. You can't really make yourself forget what killing is when you already know. Psychopaths can do that. But for normal people, it's often trauma. Something about murder, killing in battle, or even just accidental killing, completely disrupts a normal person's ability to process emotions. It's an adverse situation. Normal people aren't built to kill. The military is popular in a lot of western countries. You are viewed highly by society for being successful in it. You are brought to believe that although you are participating in the taking of lives, you are doing a higher good for the people you love. Or maybe they direct your attention to all of the cool, non-killing parts of being in the military. Young men in particular get sucked in. It gives them a sense of direction they've never felt, and so they kill, viewing it as a sacrifice they must make against their own feelings, out of the purpose they have been given by the military. And then initially, combat can begin to have a desensitizing effect that might lead a person to actively pursue more combat-oriented work, boiling their own frog as far as their sense of what it all really means for them slowly melts away, trauma by trauma. I know it sounds cold to the victims, but the act of killing someone can be a trauma too. And a lot of times in military conflict, the victims want to kill you too. Being a sniper for the military is not quite the same as a street murder. If you fail, people you care about might die to these people. People, when placed in such immediate situations, make simpler, more immediate judgements. It's not all so simple, you know? There are many reasons why people get into these positions. There is a difference between a soldier and a passion-killer, though I'm sure there are those who DO sign up specifically to kill people. A lot of these guys talked about having these walls that protect them from insanity. But the wall IS the damage, the rationalizations sound insane to any normal person. Bit by bit, you lose yourself. That's your ability to process emotions unraveling. It's so much to try and deal with, that the mind develops these structures to not go there, like the Sarcophagus over Chernobyl. But these structures are bad for everyday living, and a fire of pain burns constantly beneath them. They are adaptations to situations that are not normal in people's lives. So when you place that person in normal situations, they actually are unable to cope. Like... your whole reality is broken. And when it comes to the military specifically, I can't really put the full blame on soldiers. You DO sign up for it, but it's not like nothing is done to entice you, or normative societal attitudes don't already support it. The military trains people to be able to kill. They don't necessarily walk in able to do that. Yet, the killing done by soldiers is so normalized that it seems like people hardly consider it. Why would the soldiers not think the same of it as your average person on the street? They were part of that group of civilians at one point, brought up on the same ideas. People as individuals may enter these situations of their own volition, but never forget that well above them are far colder and more detached orchestrators. The soldiers are not the reason for the fighting. Point is, you can go in as a fairly normal person wanting to serve your country, and come out years later completely unable to live... and you're not sure if it's the danger haunting your evenings, or the killing you once called survival and success that's making it harder. There's something so unnatural about it. People aren't supposed to be like this. Basically, if you think you're looking at the same guy who used to be a Sniper, one of the only people deployed who really sees their kills... well, I don't know why you would think that. The person we see here is not capable of doing that anymore, and suffers greatly for ever having been that person, more a threat to himself than others (though obviously others can be at risk with PTSD, too.) Again... people like this, probably weren't meant to be killers. They were made to be them, in the ways we as a society condone and approve of. It's not something that happens in a vacuum. I think it's a very important thing for people to understand. In the US, with so many people owning guns for protection, I don't get that sense of respect for killing. Even to kill someone in self defense is not really what you want. You can tell yourself all sorts of things about it before it ever happens, but the emotions you experience after are never as rational. We're not really built for killing one another. People with PTSD like his are basically killers who were never meant to be killers. They're not like psychopathic serial killers, where there actually is no effect. There may even have been a path for them to have lived their whole lives as sensitive, gentle people. To be honest, I think for there to be a decline in violence and war, these things need to be deeper engrained in people. People do need to understand that killing leads to misery for everyone involved, including the killer. Not because they should have sympathy for the killer, but so people can better understand the value of life, and what leads to happiness. People might think twice about becoming a sniper when they watched this grizzled, yoked tough guy sit in tears as he recounts his experiences as a sniper. I kind of just find it tragic all around. A man is enticed into becoming a killer by his society. He kills willingly, but doesn't truly know what it means... participates in the cycles of death and suffering, and is himself left broken by the end. Nobody wins. Now, we what... should we punish him? What does it add to anything? Who's life does it improve?
The gangster guy is exactly why cops messing with young people is sometimes really counterproductive. If you treat teenagers like they're bad there are a good number of them that will live up to & exceed those expectations just out of spite.
Agreed, but cops are human too and you can take the best human being and after a few years of dealing with violence in your home country, you change. No different from putting a human in a war zone for years.
@@JohnDoe-gm7vk ugh, like, don't y'all bootlickers ever get tired? My cousin is a detective & my oldest's godfather is a captain & they'd be the 1st people to tell you that there is a massive issue in policing that has eroded the public trust to an incredibly unsafe degree. It's not on the public to just give officers more trust. It's on the officers to stop doing things that get them a viral video on the internet of their bad behavior. If that's too hard, you're in the wrong job. Sorry bout it.
@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 Are you even capable of intelligent independent thought? This man told you the reason cops are bad. Now work on a solution instead of crying about needing change
My uncle died nearly an exact year before I was born, walked out of a bar with his friends, saw a fight, tried to stop it and got punched. One hit, he was in the hospital in a coma, died three days later. I never got to meet him, my mom and nana cry anytime its brought up, and still we all dont feel any ill towards the man who did it and his family. you never expect something like that to happen, and while I miss what I was never able to have in my uncle, I cant begin to imagine the pain the man who caused his death feels everyday, living with that reality. my heart goes out to him.
To the sniper- my family and I are refugees from the Bosnian war. I can’t imagine how painful it is what you had to do for your job but you helped save innocent lives. Without people like you, my family and I may not be here today and the war could have gone on for much longer. I hope you find peace and know that you are not a bad person, the people that you were commanded to kill needed to be stopped.
@Erdem B ah yes you’re mocking someone who witness war firsthand while you’re on your couch eating Cheetos like a loser. Please don’t try to mock someone just for your agenda just because they have a different view than you
@@ka3097 Žao mi je da ste i vi morali živiti kroz rata. Ja imam ujku i tetku u Srbiji i oni nisu ni znali za rat i što se sve dogadjalo u Bosni u početku dok moj tata njim rekao. Sretna sam da ste ok i pobjegli. Znam da su isto neki innocent Srbi bili ubijeni pogotovu zbog bomba od NATO. Rat je naj veči zlo.
@@wulfz04 unfortunately it seems that this commentator Erdem is someone who denies the truth of the war. Serbia’s media was censored during that time and hid the truth as well as lied to its people. Its truly sad when people are manipulated with lies. Similar to how Russia is censoring their media now with the Ukrainian war
I once killed a woman with my van. Accidently reversed over her while doing a delivery (It had no backup camera. Freak accident the police said as we went around the car at the same time so I never saw her. She was old and fragile so she never stood much of a chance. Tried helping her with CPR but nothing I could do was helping. She died a couple of minutes later while I was holding her hand and telling her that she was going to be alright and that the ambulance was coming. I knew I was lying. After that I was completely broken. Several days after the accident is totally lost from my memory and I couldn't eat or sleep. Thought about ending my own life, sort of as "payment". Some sort of redemtion. I could never do it since there was no way for anyone to explain to my dog why I suddenly stopped being there. So whenever I had those thoughts I walked my dog. I walked my dog everyday for montsh for hours. Had to carry her sometimes because we walked to far for her liking. But She was carrying me the whole time. So I too know what it feels to kill. And I know how it tastes. And It's fucking awful.
God bless you. That's one hell of a memory, I'm sorry you had to go through that and may you find peace of mind. 🙏🏽 Rest in peace to that woman as well.
I've worked in corrections and there is ALWAYS a guy there who hit someone and that someone never got back up. Hitting someone with enough force to knock them out is enough force to kill them. Pushing someone so hard their head hits the pavement is enough force to kill them. Grabbing someone by the neck or shoulders and giving them a full body shake is enough to kill. DO NOT GET IN BAR FIGHTS. YOU MAY WIN.
Yes ! Exactly ! I felt this one. I very recently went through exactly that. I have a part time gig in a bar as a bartender/bouncer. I’ve done this off and on for over 25 years. I’ve always been very careful to not throw punches . I’m 6’ , 220 lbs and in very good shape for my age. I’m aware of how hard I can hit someone, so I just don’t. I use every other tactic I can to control the situation and de-escalate. I prefer talking. I never take things personally when alcohol is involved. It’s just a job. Unfortunately, about a month ago a man hit his wife right in front of me. I wasn’t even there to work. Just having dinner. I wasn’t in a good position to wrap him up and control him, as his wife and her friend were between us. I quickly placed my hands on his shoulders and told him to leave, but this guy was already too far gone and I knew it. He cocked his shoulder for a right cross and I dropped him with a quick jab. It was controlled and I wasn’t trying to do damage, but he went out and cracked his head open on the brick floor. There was a lot of blood. I had one of the employees call for an ambulance. Thankfully there was no permanent damage. Just stitches and a concussion. The guy actually wanted to press charges, but his friends who witnessed it convinced him that he was in the wrong. The thing is, I know full well that that could have went a lot of different ways. It’s not the first time I’ve been in a situation like that, but things are very different now than when I was coming up. You can have the best reasons in the world for doing something and still end up in jail. Don’t get me wrong. I’d do it again. Right is right and wrong is still wrong, but everything is so upside down these days that one has to be very careful about doing the right thing. Take care gentlemen.
My mates Brother got into a punch up with another group of lads, he's 21 years old and is in prison for 5 years, he punched someone once and they hit their head on the pavement, tragically passing away a few hours later in hospital due to bleeding of the brain. There were about 15 young men involved in that punch up, could have been anyone of them ending up in prison , my friends brother was not a fighter, he got involved in a fight and now is paying the price in both his freedom and his conscious knowing he killed another person, his family suffer, the victim could have easily been the perpetrator, his family are suffering because of his death,
Yea my boyfriends 16 year old brother was just charged with 1st degree murder but he was lucky he was just with the other kids that actually did the damage they pushed this kid out of their car after robbing him he smacked his head of the payment then they ran over his legs and my bf brother will only do 5 years.
even tho i feel with him the decision to go to the army and possible killing ppl was made by himselfe, i feel with him but hes the one who decided to do that work and to kill that person, never ever forget that, i hope he will be fine in the future
Young men always crave violence until we discover what real violence looks like. At that moment a lot of us realize we have the stomach of it or we don't.
It breaks my heart every time i watch Craig’s video. He seems like such a good guy, who did his job, and now suffers the consequences. I hope he’s okay.
This video is incredibly deep. The one punch guy and sniper hit me the hardest. You can see it on their faces and hear it in their words. Both had me tearing up quite a bit. We can all only hope we don't go through anything even remotely close to this.
I have to give 'The Sniper' the utmost RESPECT and I FEEL FOR HIS PAIN; TOO MANY OF OUR TROOPS ARE COMING BACK W PTSD SUFFERING AND SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS ALOT NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED SOON ENOUGH 😢 The 2nd
@@berserker973 I’m angry for these soldiers. Sent to a country they don’t belong in, to fight someone else’s war, and forced to kill people they don’t even know if they deserve it or not. Just to be left with the burden of a crippling mental Illness
When the soldier talked about his dog saving his life. I never had one. I had rough days, but meeting a friendly dog, or a friendly kitten that don't even know has always made my day better. More CBT and psychotropics ever did.
That old gangster is straight up raw, and how he speaks, how he really feels, no sugar-coating, no telling you what you wanna hear. I'm sure he was a very scary dude when he was young, because he's a scary old man..
I find him refershingly straight. Like, you fuck with innocent hardworking people, you get your head offed. Some people only understand violence, so it's good when a "gangster" who cares about innocent people can give them the justice the legal system and law enforcement fails to.
@@JMPERager true until he said it was business. “It doesn’t matter if I like you or not”. That amped it up from a gangster that takes care of his neighborhood to just a hit man.
@@cduemig1 I think it's also part of his coping mechanism. Like, he can hate being called 'gangster' all he likes, which is a bit hypocritical, cause he is, but... Helping good people for free, protecting the neighborhood from time to time... It doesn't turn him into a vigilant or some sort of dark hero, right? And he does get it, straightforward about it. He's also a religious man, and tries to live acording to his principles. He could be much worse, yes. But still it doesn't make him "good". So he found a middle ground, also for his psyhe sake, looking at it realistically. He does a thing. He gets paid for it. What is it if not a job? Dehumanizing part also plays a role here.
The first story is one of the hardest situations a man can be put in. Someone you love is a victim of one of the most brutal crimes and you are left to figure out what the “right thing” is.
I'm in a similar situation right now, but in this case, I was very close friends to the assaulter, and friends, if not as close, with the assaulted. I learned the full extent of what happened little while ago, and I still don't really know what to do. All I know is that I want to hurt my ex-best friend, and I want to hurt him badly, in a way that isn't just physical, but will stick with him, and continue to hurt him, every day for the rest of his life. I know it probably isn't healthy, but I doubt that he'll ever face any legal consequences, so hurting him is the only form of justice I can think of.
@@electroman224 I was in a very similar situation. My ex best friend did something horrible to my other best friend, he even tried to get me on his side. All you can do is be there for the friend they wronged. it’s not worth trying to hurt the person who hurt others. When it comes down to it, you will be the one to ruin your life (or your karma) by shorting another’s life or harming them the same way they harmed someone else. Whether you go to jail or not, that would be on your conscious for the rest of your life. Two wrongs dont make a right. They will get their karma, one way or another, I believe that.
I feel for both of you guys and I believe our hearts are in the right place. Keep being defenders of the vunurable. I think the best way to deal w/ this situation is to support the person that was victimized. Encourage them to come forward and bring the peice of shit to justice. Your family needs you. Society needs you to continue to defend people in the future and you can’t do that in a jail cell.
@@markbenn1907 that's the best way to do it but I feel like I'm not the kind of person that'd choose the best way, if my girlfriend was raped I would hunt down the motherfucker and gut him if I had the chance, the rage I feel right now just imagining it is intense, rationally I know I should stay with her and help her heal if I can but goddamn it would take everything in me to control myself and I don't know if I'd be able to.
thats crazy that a guy that killed someone by accident (but still wanted to punch someone) got 3 months and a guy who killed a rapist got 12 years. And then they talk about going to the law while nothing in here makes any sense
I see what you guys are trying to say, but I don't think that suffering is a prerequisite for enjoyment or appreciation for good things in life. That's like saying people who were never traumatized cannot feel as good about good things as people who were, and I think it's usually the opposite. People who have been heavily traumatized can sometimes have a much more difficult time feeling those sorts of things that come fairly naturally to select others.
@@jiltedlittle6868 as an individual who has been through hell and high water, feared and faced death multiple times, I can promise you that I thoroughly enjoy my life and I'm reminded daily that I clearly appreciate it far more than most people.
@@jiltedlittle6868 typical redditor attitude to disagree with literally anything LMFAO just shut up and enjoy the beautiful quote instead of being like "UHMM AKSCHUALLYYYYY !!!! 🤓☝" (don't even bother answering / disagreeing with me too, i ain't even gonna bother reading your possible answer)
@@knightsfamilytransportatio8804 and the other dude was called one-punch killer, if you're implying that he's called a murderer because his race, then you're a moron.
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The one punch killer looks like Jesse from breaking bad
The one punch guy story is really heart wrenching you can see how he still re-live this moment like it was yesterday..
i feel the least empathy for that guy, he seems like he pity’s himself too much
@@mayapapaya02 what minute did he seem like he was pitying himself lmfao that guy looks like the definition of ptsd because he never thought that what he did would end up killing a guy you can definitely SEE that he is still shocked by his body language im not saying what he did was forgivable but what im saying is that he really did not mean it he was only defending his friend.
@@Judesa he even said himself that he felt self-pity when the realisation hit him, also i’m not saying he’s not traumatised from the experience but the fact he didn’t even give an apology made me mad. just bc you feel like you can’t be forgiven doesn’t mean you don’t apologise, whether the family would accept it is up to them but he took that chance away from them. he just has the “why did this happen to me” mentality and i don’t like it. i’m not trying to start an argument, that would be stupid it’s just opinions. so i’m gonna stop replying after this
@@mayapapaya02 I really wasn’t arguing I’m sorry if it sounded that way and after reading your explanation on why u feel that way..i cant say that you’re not right because you definitely are, but at first you just bluntly said something about someone we all never know what he actually feels so that caught me off-guard
@@mayapapaya02 To be very fair to the guy...
An apology wont do shit, when you killed someone. When you broke something, yeah sure. But not when you took a life by accident. One could argue that he should do it, to show remorse. But on the other hand...what would a "sorry" accomplish?
Gangsters are scary, but an very old, living ex-gangster who sits there in a suit and calmly describes how he puts a gun in another's mouth to teach him a lesson is absolutely terrifying.
@@sal50111 what?
@@sal50111 damn bruh wtf kind of crack you on
@@sal50111 man just lost track halfway through his comment
@@sal50111 😭😭😭
@@sal50111 "nah bro it's not terrifying it's just stupid- so I've been in this scary situation but ohh man, it didn't scare me at all..."
i like how the murderer mentioned that girls dont feel comfortable going to police. and it was really real to hear him say "they go to their boyfriends, brothers, dads" because its true. so many women arent believed by officers and the only men they feel they can trust is family. I dont think what he did was wrong. ill never feel bad for a rapists death
100%
go rad up on the story, she exchanged numbers with the man they murdered, baited him out, she didn't get raped, she was mad she got no attention from her boyfriend, created a web of lies that dug deeper and deeper until she got caught, and it ended with an innocent man beaten to death.
I was thinking that myself. I’m curious what type of charge he would get off of that. Because sure it was premeditated but I think that you could consider it a crime of passion fr
lots of women lie... that's why a lot don't want to go to the police, they know they'll be questioned and would rather just have some person believe whatever they say without question... we don't know if the guy actually raped her because there was no trial, that's the point of the court system.
So true , I know many girls who have gone through assault including myself , and none of them went to the police because they knew they wouldn't do anything or probably make it worse
It's crazy how the gangster who basically dehumanizes his victims in his mind practically sleeps soundly at night, while a soldier who fought for his country feels geniune guilt for the lives he's taken.
It's very thought-provoking.
Maybe because the army os corrupt government and all the other shit that goes on in the world
You've got to be joking by saying the sniper was defending his country lol
@@gulagguard4602 Aren't they paid to protect national interests? Like a contract with state
@@lord_azatoth Yeah, but that's the thing. What the soldier did was basically legal in the context of war, you could even argue that it can be ethical in some certain scenarios, but the gangster is just pure scum.
Unfortunately - the US soldiers (and others) deployed in Bosnia, Kosovo, syria, Iraq and Afghanistan is not deployed to defend their country….. they’re is something’s they’re not even allowed to speak about and if they do - they will be sent to jail. I’m talking war crimes and mass killings of innocent people and so on… the US ruined the Middle East
“I’m a businessman, and my business is crime.” I wanted a movie the second he said that tbh.
Thats the line that got me, shit he was 110% honest from the heart too. He didn't even blink 😳
Reminds me of the line from Major Payne: "Killing is my business, and business is good."
@@Born_Free_Die_Happy yes exactly that quote! Lol
@@talktouasia6312 there might be a movie 🤞
Directed by guy Ritchie lol
"I'm not a gangster, I'm a businessman, and my business is crime" is the most gangsta thing I have ever heard.
He's just Gus Fring
Don't say it in front of him. He'll put a gun in your mouth
I mean, haven’t heard lyrics like that even 😂
Big facts!!
That was so uncommon yet so cool to hear. It’s like it’s out of a movie.
4 people that killed out of protection, missfortune, business and duty. 4 different casualties of the same thing but yet gives you different perception on each one of them. Magnificent
Magnificent comment
its wild ,the different stories and reasons for why they did it
Idiotic
Sniper wasn't protecting anyone.
@@pytek23 no the first guy was. the sniper guy was on duty.
Calling that man a murderer feels unfair to me.
Which one ?
@@ocatnothe one explicitly labeled as the murderer in the title and the video
@@fishfood8711 What they said XD
Please do look up the details of this case. The news articles sound quite a bit different from what this guy described - in the news about the case it was said that the girlfriend of his friend cheated with the guy they beat to death. That sounds more like a killing out of jealousy than revenge. It's hard to tell the truth here but it's good to look up different sources and not just believe blindly what a convicted murderer says.
@@nelasun7058girl prolly lied about it to them then.
mad respect for Allen, dude spent 12 years jailed and he would do all over again to protect someone for the right reasons.
Naw ur sick. Cause of murders like you is why in America we advocate for our citizens to carry guns, to defend themselves from sickos like you. Everyone deserves a fair trial.
By his original description and his surprise at finding out that the man had died, it seems that he got carried away, and he did not intend to kill someone. Or the other possibility is that he tells it like this to rationalise his actions. Maybe his actions were forgivable, we can't judge without knowing more details. But I take issue with the suggestion that he took the best possible course of action. He is likeable and clearly has principles. That doesn't change the fact that his actions definitely ruined lives.
@@romywilliamson4981 I do not feel bad for the rapist. He deserved death but not by allens hands
@@romywilliamson4981 Ruined lives of rapists and families of rapists? Who cares. If you started violence first by taking a woman sovereignty over her own body and her family members respond wirh force, and possibly lethal force (which should be the response of a father a brother or a husband of the victim) that isn't immoral. The only immoral act was the rapist's one.
@@heitorlima6726 so you just take his word that his victim was a rapist. Because a murderer and petty criminal are really trustworthy. Get a grip of yourself and read the case. He’s a thug and deserves no platform for spewing his nonsense.
I really sympathise with that veteran. I will never forget when my fiancé was in Afghanistan and he sent me a voice note during the night which said “we’re penned in. I think we’re going to die. I’m so sorry. I love you more than anything”. I then never heard from him for 3 days because they needed to go silent. I knew deep down that they would tell me if he had died but I just kept thinking “what if they don’t have my details?”
He finally made contact and I just sobbed and sobbed. He was sent home around 2 weeks later, which was unfortunately a few days before bonfire night. Every time a firework went off, I could literally see the colour drain from his face. We eventually got to bed and I woke up earlier hours and saw him sat by the window, with a knife in his hand rocking backwards and forwards. I asked was he ok and he just started screaming at me - it was like he was a completely different person. Each day after that, he would snap at me, become violently angry over the smallest of things and disappear for hours at a time. I had to inform the army, I had no choice. He hated me for it but since receiving help, he now thanks me every day for saving his life because he genuinely wanted to kill himself.
These men and women endure so much and it is truly heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry for that, but that would've destroyed me thank you for doing that for him
This sent chills down my spine, I'm sorry for your situation and happy you managed to get past it
You deserve everything for understanding and helping him
You government needs to help people better, to many veterans in the streets, severe ptsd etc.
@@lmao2351 It’s hard because they don’t want to be social anymore. We can’t find them after they go homeless and we can’t confirm their positions or identities. We’re trying but maybe we have to be more tight about our soldiers coming home.
the one punch killer story made me tear up, you can really hear how remorseful he is
He shouldn't be. Everybody in that fight, including the guy that died were all equally guilty. It could have been any of them. Unlucky lucky punch.
if only all the innocent black men in the world got off as easy as he did
Give it a rest m8
there was a clear effort to not call the other guy a victim. seems he went to therapy a little which is good
@@taitsmith8521 What fight? He never mentioned a fight, he tells that things escalated and he felt that he needed to go aggressive, the guy who died wasn´t beating anyone, was just being aggressive, people really need to understand that you can´t just go there fighting and shooting people, because this can happen to you and isn´t something for you to feel proud i can guarantee to you... Ruin your life fighting for a problem that you didn´t even started it is the most shameful way to ruin your life...
The dude with the baseball bat story really went full circle. Started with how he always felt like he defended his friends as a kid, and then ended with he’s a defender, and has to defend those he loves.
It even goes further if you read the 2004 article to it:
The victim got the Nummer from the girl while driving down the street with his BMW. They met up and had sex. Her boyfriend found out and the girl blamed it on the guy, setting up a honey trap for the victim.
Then the two guys jumped the victim, hitting him multiple times on the head, crushing his skull.
Both guy got arround 12 years and the girl got a minor sentence for conspiracy. The guys took the the possibility to hurt someone even though the story from the girl propably didn't make sense in the first place.
@@rafael2886 basically the girl should be arrested for murder and i would say more for the damages caused to these guys as well the guy who actually killed and the boyfriend
The one punch killer had so much pain in his eyes. He unfortunately has to live with that for the rest of his life. That hit me the hardest.
At least it didn’t hit you as hard as the second guys right hook
Who's the '2nd man'? The gangster? The one-punch killer?
@@Katze400 one punch killer
@@josefdoesthings Ouch
Agreed
I can't imagine having to observe someone living their life for 4 whole days and in the end you have to put a bullet through their head, they don't even know you exist, they won't even hear your shot, they will simply cease to exist under a second because you pulled the trigger. That's tough man. Vets deserve way more psychological help than they have.
Perfectly said 💯
Absolutely. In America, you're homeless with no resources. In Mexico, your only choices are to join a drug cartel or go back to poverty, in Canada, if you make the mistake of using your VA for some medical help, the people there try their absolute hardest to convince you that assisted suicide is the best option because getting medical help is a burden to everyone around you.
imagine the amount of psychological help that victims of war crimes for something they didn’t do also need
Também achei absurda essa história, pqp irmão
RLTW
Been there done that.
It's less about the job and more about finding out you were lied to.
It's war combatants die but to realize the non combatants lost is devastating.
That's probably why I have severe trust issues.
At one point I thought there's something wrong with me and that only made it worse. I still hate the thanks for your service line.
They created a monster then threw me back among normal folks.
That monster is almost like a split personality that I keep locked away but for a long time I didn't know which one was the real me if that makes sense. I was so terrified at it being let out I allowed myself to be literally abused in many cases.
Took almost 25 years to feel human again.
One guy threw an unlucky punch, one guy defended a girl, one guy killed with no remorse, and another killed with permission. All committed the same act but all were punished differently whether it be jail or emotional hell, etc. Strange world we reside in.
I dont see whats strange about that
Ultimately all did the same thing all be it their own ways but the intention and circumstance really makes up the crime's severity
@@sigmamale4147 based sigma
strange world were a guy who threw an unlucky punch is compared to a mass gangster pain and trauma inducer who calls it business
And only one was called/labeled "murderer"
My dad is a one punch killer, one hell of a story. Since he's a security guard and the guy he killed was a drunk partygoer who did not have the word "stop" in his vocabulary, he did not get in serious trouble for this, but he says it changed the way he viewed his job and his position. He never wants to punch someone in the face again.
Natural selection
I tried to be a security guard and they wanted me to be violent, the guy hiring me thought I was Stoopid or something because I wanted to defuse situations and not start chaos and use my hands to stop something. People are crazy
Your pater is a killer
@@nombre4138 ok
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I can’t imagine the level of confusion the one punch guy had to deal with, trying to understand that you took a life with one hit must have been so difficult to comprehend
Right? You sleep someone for the night, come to find out he ain’t waking up?!!
@@smackddd3339 that’s real tough guy talk right there.
Fighting is so fucking dangerous. People need to realise that this isn't something light. One punch to the head can fuck you up. You can break someone's eye socket and make them blind with just one punch. A friend of mine lost his dad in the same way, one punch to the head and bam, he's gone.
Nah i dont feel any sympathy what so ever.
Man was a weak dog, took the coward shot and paid the price.
He'll think twice next time he considers king hitting someone. Literally.
King hitters are people who can't fight, but they want to be THAT guy. Its pitiful and disgusting. Frankly idgaf about his feelings and neither should you. King hitters deserve nothing less than they so gracefully inflicted onto someone else.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother I’m glad you feel as passionate about them as I do
I wouldn’t call the first man a murderer because murder implies an intent to kill and he didn’t seem like it was his intention to kill, but then again I don’t know what the court ruled and why
Thats why we have different degrees of murder. For intent, premeditation etc. He’s used excessive force and killed someone- murder
Bro most likely turned himself in after and he probably got a few years i don’t know how they do it in the uk
It was PRE MEDITATED. How thick are you
@@michaelbryant9375 nah most likely he got found quickly, there definetly were prints and dna on the scene. those tents they set up are forensic
I think that’s called manslaughter if I ain’t mistaken.
The guilt behind the one punch guys eyes is immeasurable. He really didn’t wanna kill anyone. Just wanted a bar rumble
i've left a man crippled after he hit his head in the curb, i was 16 and so was he.
theres not a single day that i don't think about what i did to his life.
@@ericknorskr8568 jesus
That’s a broken man there, his head is well and truly gone
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes…
@@ericknorskr8568 I don't at all condone what you did.. but that's the past, I don't judge you and you should stop punishing yourself.
Give your regret and shame to Jesus and he will forgive you and fill you with peace and purpose. I love you and God bless you
PTSD is no joke. I hope the former sniper makes it through. RIP to my two big brothers who didn’t.
Feel sorry for the soldier, 21 years in the army and 30mins to kick him out. That's gratitude for his service and by the sounds of it, it ruined his life. I hope he's ok and getting some help. Shocking story
He’s published a book called “The Longest Kill” he’s doing better by the sounds of it
@@edwardal7980 That's good to hear.
I just want to hug him. I think he's a tougher person in real life (to deal with such debilitating mental illness) than a soldier. That he even acklowledges his feelings and weaknesses allow others space to do the same. Nothing but love for him.
@@jessicadutridge9882 His book is well worth a read, sounds like he’s getting better but I guess almost none will ever be 100% after war and it’s quite sad - he seems like a lovely guy
@@edwardal7980 PTSD is scary thing,Friend. It's always happend to soldier after war to traumize him. That is why I think married life are important to soldier. Sometimes,I think only family can distracted man from it.
What I learned:
The Murderer - Our justice system is flawed.
The one-punch - Realise that there can be life-changing consequences for even the smallest of actions.
The Gangster - There are good and bad people doing good and bad things.
The Sniper - We are not supporting the people who we ask to do the worst things.
We don't ask snipers to kill someone from our homes, the government does. The responsibility should be on the government. Besides, soldiers knew what they're signed up for, although that doesn't make it easy when they actually do it..
@@hirschjaeger2 thanks for saying it for me. We are forced to contribute to the murder of innocent people
Excellent analysis. Don’t know what the other two are on about
You, like most people take everything at face value. According to police, they were beating the dude in the head with the bats while he was on the ground, helpless. He described it very differently so it's uncertain who to believe. Also, some stories said that she slept with the guy and it was Allen's friend that wanted revenge against him for sleeping with his girl while they were having problems. It was written that she exchanged numbers with the guy, they had a date and had sex afterwards. Her claim to rape may or may not have been true but she definitely turned on Allen and her boyfriend by getting a plea deal even though she was ultimately the cause of the killing, it seems. She actually lured the guy out as a "honey pot." It was a setup. She may have wanted to do that because of a rape or maybe to save her relationship after she slept with someone and the boyfriend got jealous. Who knows?
@@WayWeary my comment is in response to the content of the video. You, like most people on the internet, need to go outside.
I feel so bad for the guy who threw the punch. People don’t think about how much you can hurt someone with a punch. He was just standing up for his friends and yeah he attacked someone, but he probably just thought he’d give them a black eye and that was it. He didn’t expect to actually seriously injure them let alone kill them. Poor man. You can see how guilty he feels
Edit: I genuinely didn’t think this comment would get so much feedback, cuz my comments usually drift by with hardly any attention.
Ya’ll really have zero critical thinking skills if you think I can’t feel sympathy for the killer and the victim simultaneously. Here I am just sharing my thoughts and everyone really had to jump down my throat with stuff like “oh so you dont feel bad for the victim’s family” “dont feel bad for him because he killed someone so he’s automatically a horrible person”
Don’t waste your time on this thread, it’s just people repeating the same stuff over and over again, either accusing me of being heartless or defending me and the man in the video. Not worth your valuable time.
I don't, He doesn't seem to feel guilty at all. He says "Guy who passed away" no its the guy you killed. He never says he feels sorry but instead says he feels self pitty.
@@subzerowashere6920 I dont blame him for avoiding language that puts blame on him, especially if he feels guilty. He knows he's responsible but thats hard to admit verbally, thats the way I see it anyway.
Saying he felt self-pity was what he felt in the moment when it first happened which is totally understandable. He didn't mean to kill someone so of course he would feel like "oh why would this happen to me" "how unlucky for me"
I think that's a totally understandable thing to feel in that moment. Humans aren't pure and saintly, we are all selfish and concerned about ourselves first
@@subzerowashere6920 but the guy he killed also passed away….
@@subzerowashere6920 It wasn't the punch that killed him it would of been the guy hitting his head on the ground when he hit the floor. So it should be accidental manslaughter not murder. Because he's intention was not to kill him when he threw the punch it was to shut him up show dominance.
Men can't even defend themselves now with their fists because if you were knock an attacker out and they hit their head on the ground and die you're suddenly a murderer. And put in the same prison cell as a serial killer and pedophile.
@@aedt3 really? 😲
The sniper really hits home, to just see that big masculine strong man just break down and saying he's only here because of his wife and dog, thank you to all who have served and continue to fight that battle of PTSD. You are not alone and we thank you.
Don't thank them for their service, thats just insulting to the man given the context. Their service was killing poor people in distant lands under jingoistic pretext. We sympathize with the man and what he was forced to do, but the people he followed were evil, and always have been. Hopefully he can find peace from what his "service" did to him.
It’s not a question of service. War should just not exist it’s so much devastating
@@dlf7789And would you rather have been the one who went in his place?? I didn’t think so.
@@nerysghemor5781 do you think this is a gotcha or something? cuz honestly its probably the dumbest fucking thing i've read.
@@nerysghemor5781 the point is nobody needed to go in his place. that man is a victim of warmongering western politics as much as the people he killed or all the afghans who suffer under the taliban regime. I don´t think that´s an evil man, but thats the sad thing about war: you can trick good people who genuinely want to serve and sacrifice themselves for the greater good into fighting for twisted and evil interests. that man could have been a firefighter for example and saved lots of lives lives, instead he was told it was more helpful to take them. Obviously militaries have their place as not everyone has good intentions and sometimes things have to be resolved by forced but thats mostly not what has been happening.
"i'm not a gangster, i'm a businessman and my business is crime"
11:10
The mental gymastics these people do to justify their actions is wild..
He probably wanted to say that his whole life
Made me chuckle 😂 😂
Gosh that's a great line for like a TV show.
This wasn't what I expected. These men carry pain with them every day - it was brave to be so vulnerable so that others might learn from their experiences.
Not the gangster
@@real_rutmen Neither did the baseball bat killer, that motherfucker feels like he did something good because beated to death an innocent because "the girlfriend of my friend said"...
@@real_rutmen he took out human vermine.. what's the issue? Lol
It doesn't matter 💀 they still killed people
@@real_rutmen He carries the pain of manslaughter to a civilian, someone not in the game, so he cant use an excuse like calling them a "rat" to feel no remorse
Look at the eye contact, you can tell the ones who are genuinely shocked that they killed someone, and the ones who knows they can live with it
All but One Punch has been scared and came to terms with it. For me Sniper knew his role but it’s always been said the army doesn’t back people when they go so he now has to live it alone.
@@sicksack2638 probably
Ex Gangster knew what his business was
“Murderer”(who I think isn’t in the wrong) had sorrow in his eyes but also the past is the past
One Punch Man had remorse cuz he knew he did it on an accident he even said he didn’t believe what was happening
Sniper knew he had to do what he had to do but it still haunts him
@Orion True. Don't ever fall for the "eye contact means they're honest" bull shit. Why? Because professional liars know about that meme.
I noticed that, especially with the "One Punch Killer, " and how he avoided looking at the camera almost the whole time
I think hearing the sniper explain it is the most coherent explanation. I could instantly feel the panic.
you could see it coming. his eyes turned blank.. a lot of severely traumatized people have this look in their eyes, and especially when they have flashbacks.
The Sniper so real and relatable. A hulk of a man tearing up when describing the phone call with his wife. It just tells you how much of a struggle it is for veterans. But seeing, that he can tear up infront of a camera also means he has probably made a lot of progress during therapy. I whish him well.
How the military just wash their hands of people when they're done with them is terrible.
@@roymunson1 For real. It's fucking evil is what it is. I don't blame soldiers that are already in for being fond of the military, but if you're on the outside you can't just pretend the "business" of military institutions is anything but anti-humanitarian.
@@roymunson1 Deserved fate for murderers killing in a country not their own.
@@kareemali5011 Indeed these people are perfectly possessed by shaddein, the ones that haven't offed themselves that is.
@@kareemali5011 yes there are always two sides to a story. And btw. I didn't specify a nationality of the veterans. I mean all of them. Im not american and I known that my country ignores the stuggles of the veterans too.
The Sniper really depicts the truth about war. It doesnt matter if you win, at the end everybody loses. War is truly the worst thing humans do to each other (and that also includes their own people).
oh really?
over 4 billion babies dismembered, murdered in their own mothers wombs in the last 47 years alone?
just a comment.
sin is a reproach to any people.
those who sin are slaves to sin.
GOD says come let us reason together, should I not judge this sin?
if you had people killing and dismembering your children,what would you do?
judgment shall return unto righteousness!
most only seek GOD when they need HIM.
or should we say, people only seek for GOD , JESUS CHRIST when they are in trouble.
when everything is good,it's party time.
the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the heart!!!
we are not nice.
all of human history is our witness.
Old Wally just strolls in here preaching about abortion I assume. Swinging his Bible around thumping you here and thumping you there. That will teach you to have an opinion about war now won't it?
@@madd8ns i know right? I mean op is talking about how war just ruins lives of everyone involved, and Grandpa Willy is just being is old crazy self. The funny thing is instead of sounding morally correct he just sounds bat shit insane.
It is terrible, but history proves it's far better to win.
@@Keifsanderson it might be, but my point is that war is so terrible that even winning itself is terrible
The dog saving the sniper got me.
My cat saved my life. I was in my closet ready to pull the trigger. She started to meow and scratch at the door, and I woke up.
Family didn't matter. The people who would see it didn't matter. Friends didn't matter.
But a small animal who just wants some attention at the right time can take it all back.
I can't help but sob every time I think about it...
Depression is brutal like that. All those family members, friends, other human beings? They can take care of themselves, they don't depend on you.
But that little cat? It needs you. On a metaphysical level, it demands responsibility from you and gives you a reason to stay. Little buddy just had to meow and remind you about just one tiny reason you're here. And one tiny reason is all you need.
Stay strong, pal. Keep finding more and more tiny reasons to remind you that you're needed here.
sometimes all we need is purpose, i hope we all can find it.
Nice! I’m glad you are ok and that your cat loves you. Growing up my animals were more supportive than most people
Sending you the biggest hug. I have cats and I know they would save my life if I ever come across to a situation like that. As I was writing this, one of my cats came to me haha.
I’m glad you’re still here❤️
When i came home from Afghanistan i went out drinking with my fellow marines. When i got home That night i found myself angry, full of adrenaline. I made it to my bed and started apologizing to my wife and crying heavily. Sayimg i didn't want to but i had to. She thought i cheated on her at the bar 😂 only after she got me calmed down she called her mom and she made the connection. War is hell. I never thought it would bother me, change me, rob me of my ability to show empathy. Finally after 5 years of addiction and being passively suicidal, i got help and im 4 years sober and enjoy life again. Hope the others out there struggling keep your head up. It gets better. Dont give up. Ive lost family and friends through scuicide and no one deserves that. Dont put your pain on everyone that loves you. You are loved. You're are cared for. Stay and live for those who couldnt make it through.
Congratulations on 4 years sober! I can't even begin to imagine what you've been through, but I'm glad to hear you're staying strong ❤
congrats on 4 years sober
beautiful story man. it genuinely makes me happy to hear your doing well. sadly not everyone gets an ending like you
Congrats
Congratulations
The guy who killed the rapist reminds me of one of this story about a prisoner who found out his cellmate was a child molester because he told him he was (for some reason) and I feel like this lad would resonate with a quote that prisoner said when they asked him why he did it:
He said: “Only God can Judge a monster like that… I just set up the appointment”
I just watched a video on him right before this!!
@@lorcansavage1550 lol theres a whole video of him admitting it to a CO, it was in america, do your research
"Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting."
Man on Fire - Denzel Washington
m.ruclips.net/video/wD_zMv690wQ/видео.html
Why'd I hear the quote in a British accent
@@lorcansavage1550 boy you sure are stupid aren’t you lmao. There’s a recording of it from the prison interview room lmao
There's a disturbing contrast between a soldier who fell into a deep depression for killing a man even though it was his duty and another who killed tens of men and doesn't seem to have any kind of bad feelings about it
it just shows the power of the human mind. the sniper stayed with his normal mindset and even further personified the people he would have to kill, which was the exact opposite of what the other guy said to do. He was absolutely right that if you don't dehumanize the people you kill, it's going to fuck you up.
I’ve always said the scariest thing in life is when the mind betrays you it’ll destroy you and everything you touch
Did you even listen to what the old head said?
@@mentarium9741 have you ever killed someone
@@tonyflamingosucks6590 of course not. whether or not i've killed someone doesn't mean that i'm wrong when i'm just restating what the people who have killed people said. it is a common practice for soldiers to view their enemies as inhuman. that's what I hear about at least
When the man with PTSD shared the way he felt it broke me down pretty bad. It’s insane that humans can harbor these feelings and still carry on living even if it’s hell on earth.
No One deserves mental health issues 😖 it’s living torture
We really don't what a person maybe feeling deep inside...most people have faced worst and I am so sorry for them It really must be so hard going on living normally actually acting to live normally
Well you always have a choice. Either keep living or end it. Thats just a fact. And why bother ending it when it might get better and maybe you see better days. I think he felt that when he saw his dog looking at him
@@likemysnopp More likely, when he saw his dog, he thought about one of two things: Either he'd be leaving the dog behind and she wouldn't understand or that he'd have to take her with him so she wasn't left there looking at his bleeding head.
From personal experience, it's easy to rationalize how everyone else will understand and will get on with their lives after a couple days or months, but when you're dog is there watching you, you start worrying about them. They won't understand the noise, the blood, or your absence. They'll be terrified. Or maybe they'll come over and start licking the blood and gray matter from your skull, trying to keep you. You wonder how you can leave them behind. Then you know there is only one way to NOT leave them behind. That's to kill the one thing that trusts and loves you unconditionally. It's a hitch in your logic that suddenly spares your life.
@@likemysnopp Because it isn’t something you know will get better.
Craig, i dont think you will ever see this message, but i just wanted to thank you for your service in the Kosovo war, im Kosovan/Albanian and i just felt the need to express my gratitude for you and for every other soldier who risked their life for us in such a difficult time. We will never forget nor forgive about the massacres that occurred in Kosovo at the time. Without your help i wouldn't be here to express how thankful we Albanians are for your service. I just hope that you acknowledge how many innocent lives you have saved. May you and your family find peace and live a happy long life my friend. Love from Kosovo 🇽🇰
This was very kind. I hope that he is doing ok and comes upon your comment.
You're a good person for taking the time to show gratitude.
Shëndet
Your comment brought back many memories. Was in Kosovo back in 01 and spent quite a bit of time interacting with the locals. Amazing people who endured so much. Wish them all the best.
I have a friend who served time as a young teenager for killing a guy who was bullying his friend for being homosexual. They fought and it was broken up, they both walked away and went home. The bully went to sleep and never woke up. My friend is a very quiet, friendly person and has many horrible stories from living in prison for somewhere around 5 and a half years for this. When he talks about it you can see his regret and his pain from knowing he ended someone's life, even if he didn't mean to.
He didn’t mean to? How did he kill the bully? Was it from some injury dealt to the bully during the fight, perhaps he went to where he lived and killed him there?
@@blank4142 did you not read it?
@@peanutbutter368 lol I’m dying it’s like he read 4 words
@@blank4142 r u weetarded or bozo
@@blank4142 read.
Thank you for your service soldier. Please get the help you need and don't do that to yourself. I did 21 years in prison and have PTSD as well. But I'm here.. and so are you still.
You seen my LADbible podcast frank? 💯❤️✨
I’ve got PTSD from childhood sexual abuse from my grandad, I’ve got two kids and I’m determined to break the cycle of abuse, poverty and crime but PTSD is a hard disorder to live with, flashbacks, panic attacks, nightmares ect. It’s hard, really hard. I’m lucky I escaped heroin addiction which was my vice from the age of 15…
@@leemarvinhitchmanciaratell3450 I have, I’m 3 years clean from heroin and crack ❤️
@@baxterbunch I hear you on the ptsd buddy… very difficult to shake it off, but possible x
@@leemarvinhitchmanciaratell3450 we made it bud, we do recover 🙏🏻
"I'll die defending something for the right reason"
Words to live by man, words to live by.
Not saying she wasn't raped, but what if the guy was falsely accused , then the man would have died for nothing, that's what makes investigations important. If the man did rape her then this guy should have shoved that bat right up that man's candy ass
I wonder if anyone is aware that this is the same thing an Islamic terrorist believes as he kills people he sees as morally evil. I think people need to be very careful when they say they'll die for a belief. It may not be as moral as one may think.
Like dexter 🙃
@@la_mouse7947 whos Dexter?
He’s got moral character and principles
The sniper legitimately had me crying my eyes out, I would absolutely love to hear more of his story.
He has his own episode I think.
Yea they all got there own episode these are just capted bits I seen all the episodes of them
My uncle was a sniper, similar story to this guys but there was no one to save him and unfortunately he shot him self in 2011 when I was 6. Never really knew him so I wasn’t upset or anything, I would have just liked to know his story a bit more and I can’t ask my older family members about him because they don’t really like talking about him and kind of just ignore that it ever happened
Apparently he wrote a book, The Longest Kill.
@@Mr-Sozathat sucks, brethren. I’m sorry to hear that. I think I heard every 24 or 27 seconds another veteran takes their life. Brutal.
That soldier’s way of telling his story really makes you understand how inhumane and damaging warfare is. I always thought it was so weird just making young , good men go out and ruin their lives, then just let them be with all this pain when they come back.
That's crazy because I'm planning to work for the military, not the army, but the military. It is basically an office job that's 3 to 4 times the pay of a normal office job
It’s terrible but at the same time what other option does our world have…. Clearly there will never be peace
@@Chicken-1923 always the plan and what they tell you before you find yourself a grunt on the front lines somewhere. Good luck brother!
@@baruckobungoo8225 not go to war for profit, maybe?
@@alflundgren8138 like I said, how is that just gonna happen…. Our world is too ignorant to settle for peace it will never end
I've never seen so much pain in someone's eyes (the second guy).
He'll live with this the rest of his life. Condolences to both their families
As a person who's made plenty of mistakes in their life I truly feel for him. I hope he can find peace someday
His story broke my heart, it was clear that what happened was the furthest thing from his actual intentions
My heart breaks for him
I think the veteran has more.
@@ShadyzOfficial they are suffering in completely different ways, not right to compare the 2 at all. A freak accident is no where near the same experience as war. I have a soft spot for veterans as well, both of my brothers were in the military.
That first man isn’t a cold blooded murderer he truly was a protector
Yea his intentions were "good," but he literally killed a man, so not really bro
Nope. I've read news articles about this guy. It sounds like that he's trying to come up with a way to justify what he did.
Protecting a woman from a crime that already happened? Give me a break
@@Tropic7855sorry, but rape is far worse than murder. Dying is a courtesy
@@Brandon210-q4n "what he did" you mean kill a rapist?
as an active duty member the sniper’s story really hits home. i don’t have a tactical job like him but i get it when he said his dog saved his life. depression is easy to fall into in the military and our spouses and dogs really keep us stable.
Edit: Wow thanks for all the support!
HOOAH 🇺🇸
@@MrSurferman93 hooyah brother
Well not stable but at least often alive. Sometimes its not enough
Rah
@@YoSoymarron 🖍️ here. For you Brother
The one punch guy I can relate with. Years ago, I ended up in a similar situation, but luckily for the both of us the guy didn't die. One punch, he went down, and started seizing. I was arrested and while I was in custody, the police kept saying that I better hope he lived. The emotions, the fear, and thinking my life was over. All over boozing in a bar and the exact words that started it...I can't even remember.
Tough bro very tough 😳😤🤦🏻♂️💀
@@impulsivehighlights1348 what’s your problem lmao
@@impulsivehighlights1348L bro massive L 💀💀💀
@@impulsivehighlights1348 u act like a knob
where did you punch him?
With the One Punch guy, you can really tell that his situation broke him to the core. I feel so bad for him since I am a 18-19 year old college kid like he was so this one really hit home for me.
Dude got off easy. At every point in his story he had the power to choose to stop, and he didn’t. He wanted to prove how hard he was, and someone else had to pay the price.
@@pointynoodle Acting as if you've never acted without thinking, sure he had the power to choose to stop, but at the time, I'm sure the adrenaline of the whole situation got to his head. It's not like he wanted to kill the guy, he just got a call from his friends saying they got into a heated conflict and needed help.
@@swisscheese6481 yes but fact is he did kill a guy and that man’s mum can never see him again, his partner can never hear his voice again. So many lives ruined on both sides over an argument when that man threw that punch to act the hard man, stupid stupid mistake but he is to blame entirely and is accountable for his own actions. He took a life and did less that 2 years that’s getting off very easy considering the man he killed now has no years.
@@pointynoodle other dude was clearly ready to pay if he was arguing with a group of young men in a bar. He could’ve walked away too.
@@bassyturtle3828 Two guys don't walk away. One guy kills the other guy. The guy that died is in the wrong as much as the guy that killed him? Is that what you just said? If so the guy that killed him should suffer the same fate if they are both equally wrong for not walking away.
Wow. I thought I'd just hear some stories and go on with my day, but the One Punch Guy and the Sniper brought me almost to tears, which happens rarely.
Much respect on their strenght and courage to go in front of a camera and tell their stories!
"I'm not a criminal. I'm a business man, and my business is crime" I personally love that quote so much almost like a quote you'd hear from a movie.
For normal people, us see then as a criminal but for them see themselves as a businessman. Just different perspective opinion
Oh yeah so cool… so cool in fact this poser repeats it literally every chance he gets.
im not a gangster*
I can hear al pacino saying that lol
@@kugatempest2967 crime Is crime
I always question how a person who kills someone to protect someone is labeled a "murderer." And those who killed thousands in wars are labeled as "heroes."
Socially acceptable killing, people are unaware how far this goes, many think it stops at hypothetical jihadists, the reallity is that it stops at nothing.
Copaganda and propaganda will do that. However, I’m in sincere doubt any individual military personnel has killed over 1,000 people, let alone that being a regular occurrence. Also while some people do join for the idea of murdering a person, that’s an insane minority when compared to those joining due to financial insecurity, homelessness, inability to go to college by other means, etc. not that all vets are amazing heroes. But to assume they’re all awful murder loving crazy people, is the same as assuming all cases of murder are due to murder loving crazy people. There’s an insane amount of context you’re skipping.
It’s all perspective
Well there's a huge difference. As a soldier, you are employed to kill for your country for the purpose of protecting it. That is, risking his life so that you and others can live freely at home and in other places. The guy killing "someone to protect someone" is a bit of a false statement - because if that happened exactly that way in the moment it would have been called Defence of others and he wouldn't have been charged. The reason why he is a murderer is because he took the law in to his own hands which you can not do in a country based upon state law. He had no legal right to kill the man. Reason being, that you can not take his word as fact because you didn't hear from the other person (despite me not believing so, there is, e.g., the possibility that his friends gf lied.) Personally, I totally understand his actions but this is not how society can work - it would be total Chaos and the Wild West. Due process is a must and his going above and beyond the law is what got him to be called a murderer. If he became a police officer and shot someone he saw was getting raped then he would also be called a hero and not a murderer.
Those who killed thousands in war are the only reason you are where you are today
The one punch guy, hits me hardest. My father used to tell me son, you could hit someone and they could fall and hit they’re head and boom. You killed someone. Scares me to this day.
It really happens more often than people believe. I really hate sucker punchers. Noone deserves to be hit like that.
@@dramalexi rapists, pedos, looters, a lot of ppl deserve to be sucker punched.. when you've experienced danger, all that fair fight bs goes out the window.. death is what you sign up for when you fight, youre just lucky if everyone survives
I got sucker punched in the chest once and let me tell you, it fuckin HURTS and it felt like death was brushing my sides for a second.
I hate anyone who does sucker punches, if they don't have a valid reason or the situation calls for it, then you can bet I ain't really gon' be on their side.
Indeed, this is the same reason I think it's ridiculous not to wear a helmet when on a skateboard, rollerblades or whatever. You know how easy and fast it is to die with even a light head bonk on the ground. Sure most people don't fall on their head but it really doesn't take much, 1 single bad fall on an off day could end it all. Which is why when hitting people you should aim for the stomach area, Body shots hurt more anyway and they tend to be less dangerous on the fall and much harder to avoid also always wear a helmet when skating.
I know a guy who killed another person with one punch. I know another who was killed with one punch. Guy was a business owner who had a fight break out in front of his business. He ran outside to try and break it up. One guy assumed he was about to be attacked and turned and punched the business owner as business owner was running towards him.
He cracked his skull on the ground. Just like that. There’s a reason boxing and mma take place on mats. Guys who die with one punch don’t die from the punch. They die from the concrete impact on their heads.
That was the most fascinating and informative documentary that I've seen in quite some time. Brilliant.
Both the one punch man and the man with the bat hardly deserve the title of murderer. I feel the man with the bats trial seemed wildly unfair that the women was not allowed to speak at the trial. His heart was in the right place. I hate justice systems everywhere
Doesnt matter he still got the punishment he should have
In the end it shouldn't be, and isn't, legal to take the law into your own hands. There is nothing ok with taking bats to a man's head because someone else asked you to, no matter how shitty they are, because what if you're wrong?
He's definitely far from the worst out there (bloke probably was a rapist in the end, not much loss there) but his lack of remorse is concerning. And bullshit he didn't realise you were gonna kill him swinging a bat at his head.
Agreed. He killed a rapist, that's a good thing
@@TurkeyMuncher117 It isn’t legal, but it may be “just”, the two are not one in the same. Rephrasing my admittedly stupidly phrased original reply, there are some really depraved and completely evil acts that place you as less than welcome on this planet, putting it in a totally normal way.
And a lot of the replies I’ve gotten are right, you cannot right a wrong using one sin (killing another human) to try to fix another (the damage that human caused); that much is true. Repentance and reform are always the #1 option.
But there are some incredibly evil people on the planet who would do nothing more than pollute it until the day they passed naturally. It’s up to us as individual societies to deal with these “people”, define them as either human individuals or monsters.
In my head; and like OP said, there are certain lines some human beings cross that make it hard for me or them to see these beings as anything other than animals. I know what defines someone who crosses that line has been and always will be out of my hands, so I can only offer what I think.
But I do think there are certain things that just cross a line, and you really cant help the natural instinct that was placed in a good plenty of us normal people to go out and do “just” things, and it’s hard for me to tell if killing someone who’s crossed that line into the territory of a theoretical complete monster is just or not.
Death is a cruel punishment, one that is final. If carried out by the hands of many capable and competent individuals, I think it can be just and merciful. But it can also be violent and unnecessary, cruel and evil. One day I’ll be able to ask questions and have all of my answers for certain.
For now, I’ll continue to believe that what these men did was “just”, even if they potentially could’ve missed the mark and I wouldn’t know; as I didn’t and don’t want to read into their individual stories.
I’ll also continue to believe in god, and if what I think is incorrect, its a mistake I can only hope I’m forgiven for.
God smiles upon all works of good, It’s my question to him what concept of justice is correct.
The way I see it the moment someone takes advantage of someone like that they lose their right to be called human
The guy being like "How can you go to the police? They JUST charged a cop for that." just hit the nail on the head so hard.
It's beyond scary when you don't think you can go to anyone but your immediate family and friends for help.
It's unreasonable to paint all law enforcement as corrupt... but definitely reasonable to believe they likely won't have the evidence to hold a rapist, or be doubtful the justice system will be able to convict.
Vigilante justice doesn't have any of those technicalities, but uninhibited vengeance opens a margin of error that could possibly create more regret than satisfaction, if satisfaction can be gained at all.
Personally, I wouldn't leave it in the hands of the justice system to do a flawless job, especially with legalities that have over-complicated something that should be straightforward. If civil justice is your choice or only option tho, Police integrity is honestly the least of your worries...
@@FemNate , I believe in the RULE OF LAW. Until some asshole hurts my Mom, then I will strangle the bastard with his own guts.
Hatfield and McCoy situations start just like that.
But for God's grace it could be a lot of us in that position. I should also add that I've taken a few beatings so be aware that it's alright dishing it out but every dog etc!
@@paulcheney3636 , very true.
The way this sniper talks about his wife and dog saving him from suicide, makes the fact that so many servicemen and women get cheated on while serving and dumped when they come back so much worse. Really puts the veteran suicide rate into perspective
Not only that, they are forced to deal with horror as a job..come back, and end up unable to go back to 9-5 "normalcy"- while there's more Awareness, ptsd etc. It doesn't change the fact that they're often left behind suffering...homeless..addicted ..disabled..it is wrong
And by comparison, police officers etc have also a very high level of domestic abuse issues as well
no one cares about veterans, use proper pronouns bc those people live a harder life than veterans😩
Who cares? Wb the innocent civilians they've killed and THEIR families?
These people are literally trained assassins. They're just committing these heinous acts under the guise of 'protecting their nation'. F them.
I found out I was getting cheated on 2 months into a 9 month rotation man. It did something mentally that I still can’t explain to this day.
Craig - thank you for your service and sharing your story. Huge respect
Horrible how the first guy was protecting a rape victim and got a 12 year sentence yet the guy who was in a bar fight and killed someone got two years.
One had the intention to kill em and the other one had no intention to kill em
@@2500hd_idk I think that neither one of them had intention to kill. I just figured that, in the eyes of the law, the baseball bat assault was more aggressive than a single bar fight that ended incorrectly.
Alleged rape victim by the way. First guy is a weak low life who deserved to spend his whole life in prison for his vigilantly justice.
@@masongenke5439 Ah, the first guy showed up with a baseball bat mate!!
What do you think is going to happen when one hits another on the head multiple times? Gee some people !!
@@2500hd_idk Neither planned to kill their victims
PTSD is miserable. I was gonna check out too but my niece saved my life. I was stepping off the chair as my niece opened the door. I quickly acted like I was fixing a pipe in the basement. I’ve never told anyone that. Would be 10 years ago tomorrow. 🎉 since 2012 every Christmas is my new birthday. So thankful I didn’t give in. We just celebrated her 17th birthday🎉
I’m so proud of you, this made me tear up 🥺 really shows that sometimes we can save someone’s life without even realising it’s what they needed
i’m so so proud of you ❤
She doesn't even know she saved your life... Wow. I'm very glad you're here today. Hope youre doing well.
She’s your angel. God works in amazing ways.
10 years is amazing. I wish you many more. I’m beyond proud of you!
It’s interesting to see how everyone reacted to they’re killings. The first man rationalized it with knowing there’s one less rapist in the world which I agree with. The gangster has no issue with killing other criminals because to him when they entered his “business” (crime) they essentially agreed to the possibility of death. The only problem the gangster had with killing was when he killed someone who hadn’t signed that business contract so therefore did not deserve to be killed. The other 2 guys, the one punch killer and the sniper, were clearly messed up mentally by their crimes. The one punch killer never meant to kill the guy but still deeply regrets doing so and the sniper I think was more messed up by his experiences which the killing did not help. Overall it’s weird to notice how you agree with the murderer and the gangster because they only killed criminals while still empathizing with the one punch man and the sniper despite them all being killers
Great comment
How do you know if the rape story was real?
@@carlosleiva2825 It’s the only information we’ve been given, hence the only information we can draw a conclusion from
@@risottopose9970 I'm literally saying this from personal experience: Never, ever, EVER immediately believe it when a woman says she's been raped and doesn't want to go to the police but instead wants you to "deal with it". That's just a recipe for disaster. There's a VERY good reason why the concept of innocent until proven guilty exists. It may sound harsh, or it may sound misogynistic to the "believe all women" crowd, but that's the reality. It is NOT your business to deal out vigilante justice over a SUSPECTED rape. Because you'd never be able to forgive yourself if she did indeed lie. She'd have ruined an innocent human being's life and you'd have helped her in that.
Honestly I'm just glad I learned this valuable lesson soon enough, cuz I was about to do something very fucking stupid all because a degenerate woman decided to cover up her cheating by trying to ruin a kid's life.
Again, you're not a vigilante. You're not a superhero. You're not James Bond. You're just a regular person. If a woman comes up to you and says this shit you give her your sympathies and ask her to go to the cops. No more, no less.
This sums up my feelings exactly.
i hope allen knows how good he is. got so emotional hearing him talk about what life is like for victims. he’s not even one himself but he understands it more than many people. i wish i could thank him for giving me hope.
It's so weird to see that the person who's job it actually was killing someone is the person who's mind is the most broken.
The only one on this video without a corrupt heart.
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 Yet the one with most kills, the duality of man I suppose.
I would assume it's because it was different in each case, one guy did it because he wanted to defend something and killed one person, the other was an accident and also killed one person, the old man had a code and method and those helped him come out the other side relatively ok but the sniper? The sniper watched the people he killed for a long time and he can't say he did it because he wanted to protect or because it was an accident, no, it was orders from someone he doesn't really know and so he killed and killed, and killed some more, when he's back home how can he justify himself?
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 If you think the first two have a corrupt heart idk what to tell you
@@mortem4342 right 😒
A dialogue between all four of these men in the same room would be phenomenal. So many different perspectives and experiences around the taking of life - while I'm sure they know a lot, I imagine there's a lot they could teach each other too. When you cross people from different walks of life, expect the unexpected.
That's an interesting comment man 👊
I clicked this video looking for just that; a conversation between them all.
@@spongebobmiscellaneous Same here. Before reading this comment, I was gonna fast forward to the end and see if they all have a sit down.
not reading all that
@@Meatz32 ye bro that's cool except no one asked
Interesting to hear that the sniper and the ex-gangster had two opposite approaches. The gangster dehumanized his target, to not see him as a human anymore. Whereas the sniper extra humanized them. Making up little names for them and studying their daily activities. Pretty big difference
Yeah, but what about the attack on the wookies?
Sniper - all got a bit real eh,
One Punch Wonder- Standard piss up got a bit pete tong. Lad culture hmmm
Gangster. Old school has good rules. Top Marks.
Monster Man Demaker. well. What would next man do ? Points
BACK TO SNIPER AND ONE PUNCH. Our culture creates ignorance,fear and political correctness enforced tolerance,
Our culture creates such a mess.
SNIPER It was your job, what were you going to shoot? tin cans, and the unhealthy attitude of pet naming targets s a perfect example of institutionalised hatred,. Beasting, Gangsters have no support, no counselling without recriminations,no pension plan, its a gang all the same.
at the very least there is a current of disposable wet workers.Free lance, recruited whatever, the 80's spawned a lot,
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Exactly. Basically training to Sniper school to live triggers.... PTSD is a bitch.
Trumpanzess are not humans .😅😅😅🙂☠️
@Dust good soldiers follow orders
This is one of the first times i’ve been so interested in a video that’s 27 minutes of pure barely cut interviewing without any other sounds that i sat through the whole thing
My heart goes out to the first guy. When a friend is raped you want to protect them.
Lol she was kinda on and off with the other guy, could’ve accused the person of raping her instead of admitting she cheated on the guy
Damn right
Cut the shit
I agree to a point. You don't need multiple people with bats to take care of one guy. I can tell you from experience, if you're even a somewhat competent fighter, you know how fragile the human body is. Especially with blows to the head and neck. I'm a natural protector, caused a lot of harm, and protected women I've never met before because of the actions the men did. You don't need a bat, let alone two men with bats. There's a definitive fine line between protection and overkill
@@coltonbenirschke7944 he deserved what he got.
It's odd how every person killed people in different ways but for the same reason: loyalty. The first 2 did it for loyalty to friends, the third was loyalty to a family that their parents liked, and the last was loyalty to country. There's also a certain level of morality to the reason they killed.
Ah yes, the gangster's money. So moral. hahahah
@@jeremy5602 gota eat
There's no morality in killing. Period. Anyone who disagrees with that is a conniving, desensitized, sociopath. Which is sadly about 2/3 of our population, unfortunately.
Yeah its really crazy to think that not all killers are necessarily bad people. Now people that kill kids or for no real fathomable reason, fuck them.
There’s no morality in invading a foreign country and murdering its people.
PTSD is the greatest defeat of a soldier.
.i.e. a minimum wage contract killer.
Man I feel so bad for the sniper guy, he looks completely defeated. He went to war serving his country and when he started showing signs of PTSD, they just kick him out without giving him benefits or getting him some kind of help?? That is so fucking sad and cruel. I really hope hes able to find peace and live a normal life again someday
There are 10,000's of stories like this. I'm a 9 year Army vet myself. I used to work with homeless veterans to get them back on their feet. Pretty sad
@@wdubduece8913 genuinely, thank you for your service
We joined looking for a better way and a lot of us end up much worse than when we started.
The worst part is that the little help American vets get is just as bad. Some people don't get any benefits and live on the streets, but my dad got a service dog and increased retirement pay. Im grateful that my dad is better now, but knowing that some of his friends have gotten so little help that we had to watch their kids while their dad gets drunk really hurts. I wish it was easier to help.
Its not real these are actors lol but ya it is gross how the USA treats their vets
No murderer but I’ve dealt with depression. The sniper talking about his dog saving his life made my cry so hard. If it wasn’t for my dog Ragnar, I don’t know where I would be right now. Was gonna check out myself but getting him gave me purpose & a sense of life again.
❤ Keep your head up
@@bryanking7745 That’s the plan 💜
Same boat, but for me it's my sister.
And I just recently (one month ago) survived kidney-cancer. Granted, it took my whole right kidney, at the age of 34, but man do I appreciate life a bit more now. I'm lucky I survived, I'm lucky they found it in the first place.
There is always something to love in this world man, even if we have to dig through piles and piles of shit to find it.
I've been kicked down, I've been spat on, I've been beaten, but I'll tell you one thing: I'll rather die standing, than live my life kneeling down. I'll endure any pain, but I will NEVER give up. For my little sister.
Glad to hear you found a friend and purpose to carry on. Ragnar is a great name, cheers🍻
I get this feeling that mr.sniper is definitely a cutter
Feel so bad for the one punch killer and the soldier. Those were two really good men in overwhelming situations.
One punch killers deserve no sympathy
@@cob0001 do you really think he expected to end a life with a single punch in a standard bar fight
@@kingwormgusher5354 I'm sure he didn't and sure he wouldn't have done it if so.
But too many young men die from coward punches and the moment he chooses to swing is the moment he loses all sympathy from me.
@@cob0001 of course if its your brother or pal you'd want revenge but you can clearly see the pain in the lads eyes. Doesnt excuse his actions of course but lets have some context on this individuals situation and the fact he was 18, probably pissed up an full of adrenalin. Personally ive never laid a hand on anyone that didnt hit me first but I do feel for this guy.
No. He was a frat bro who bullied people. Ironic he has such a punchable face
Each of the gentlemen you’ve spotlighted have my respect and admiration for different but equally important reasons.
"People called me a gangster, I didn't like it. One guy called me a gangster, so I stuck a gun in his mouth and *educated* him that I weren't a gangster."
I can only imagine the editor who tagged him as an ex-gangster watching this after it has been posted. 😂😂
I didnt like that either thats why i left Chicago
He comes across as pathetic, revelling in it
😅 that’s exactly what a gangster would say
My guy is Thomas Shelby
Geschichten ausm Paulanergarten
“He called me a gangster, so I shoved a gun in his mouth and educated him that I wasn’t a gangster.” That’s hilarious.
And they label him as a gangster in the video. They better watch their back!
This will sound horrible but oh well "she called me a rapist, I smacked her in the face and chained her to the floor and fucked her brains out while educating her that I wasnt a rapist" I mean... cant claim that its not similar.
@@likemysnopp except rape is more of a coward crime. If you’re going to rape someone, at least rape a man!
That geezer is more badass than most people i know irl truly the kind of man that end up a videogame caracther that dies crying im despair in the hands of a even more badass protagonist
Very gangster move.
Hearing the sniper's story made me emotional. It takes a lot of courage to tell his story. Even with 20 years of service... it is absolutely heartbreaking hearing about his fight with PTSD. Thank you for your service sir. Thank you for telling us your story.
Lol right bud. So much courage killing someone from yards away
@@mr.j410 shut
@@mr.j410 Is.. is this real? Are you a troll? Or are you really that clueless.
@@mr.j410 You say typing from the safety of your phone.
@@mr.j410 your cowardice is showing.
I feel as though I have seen quite a few veterans with THAT stare, like you would lose them for a second. Thank you for everything you do. Hang in there my man, respect.
“One guy called me a gangster so I stuck a gun in his mouth to teach him that I wasn’t a gangster” is the most gangster thing I’ve ever heard
😂😂😂😂
Hearing Craig tell his story really hits home for me. My childhood best friend served, and when he'd talk about his tours of duty he had the exact thousand yard stare. He wouldn't really talk about it a lot, but when he did you could always just feel the pain shaking behind his voice. It'd been about a year after he was relieved of duty when he took his own life. Not a day goes by that I wish I could've done something more to help relieve his mind from the darkness that followed him home.. Its been a year since he left, and I'm not sure life will ever feel quite the same. Hopefully peace finds Craig, welcome home brother.
I am so sorry to read your pain and words.
War is awful but even worse is that the soldiers being abandoned with their traumas and ptsd and more after they've done their duty.
sorry to read that mate, war is bad, your friend had nothing to do with it except he served for his country and that got him...but he is in a better place, otherwise he would have been haunted and tortured for life, stay safe mate, i wish you the best
Condolences, having lost several friends to their own demons myself. Veterans are horribly affected in particular. Recently saw Mike Jones of Garand Thumb in a great interview on The Bridge ( oiTfRWTr75c ) where the host Travis Haley, a vet himself, mentioned he had recently lost his *thirty-second* veteran friend to suicide. We need to get our priorities straight as a culture.
DAMN 😢
I'm so sorry for your loss. I know it's hard not to wish that you could have done something, but I'm sure your friendship meant a lot to him.
This was something I respected about my ex that others thought was odd when they heard about it. I asked him how he could remain so calm about racist things people would say to him. He told me that he would never throw a punch over something that he wasn’t ready to kill for, because sometimes a single punch would kill a person, and you never know when that could happen. So he never got mad enough to punch someone due to that mindset. Put things into perspective for me
I'm sure he's gotten mad enough to want to punch someone, he just has good self control
@@Participant852 Yeah, he does have good self control, but they meant he never got mad enough to actually do it.
Big respect to him for that, for sure.
I've thrown a few drunk punches in my time, all of which were done with no serious intent, more of a tap on the head as a warning basically, but obviously with that, you piss the other person off and so I've been punched full force back and I'm lucky to be alive myself to be fair so I'd say worry about the other person doing damage to you just as much as the damage you'd be doing to them
Your ex was blk? Bestiality is disgusting
When I was in High School, we had a talk where four previous inmates came to talk about their lives, experiences, crime and life inside prison. The host explained that one of the four people who came to speak was actually a convicted murderer, and we had to decide who it was. In the end, it was revealed that the articulated university lecturer/host was actually the murderer who had punched someone during an argument whilst on a night out. He explained how he never set out to do this, and it lives with him daily that that one fatal blow (he punched once) caused his life to change completely. It was an incredible talk. This series was fantastic, too.
I love how this man made a point to not be called a gang member but the video crew proceeded to lable him a gangster lmao
Murderer, One Punch Killer, Sniper & Businessman On How It Feels To Kill
@@zer0527 I don’t think those two are mutually exclusive
If the shoe fits.
for legal purposes, I am a businessman
@@megathighs8764 idk man, businessmen can be pretty cut throat
I really hope that Sniper is okay. You can see how much pain he's in reliving those memories. He should not feel ashamed of his trauma, and I am glad he's working through things. This film also is incredibly well oriented and respectfully shot, lots of meaning is found in the silence between sentences. Props Lad Bible!
Why?Nobody forced him to become a sniper.
@@joeday397 I think it suffices to say he's "learned his lesson" at this point, if that is what you're getting at.
You can't really make yourself forget what killing is when you already know. Psychopaths can do that. But for normal people, it's often trauma. Something about murder, killing in battle, or even just accidental killing, completely disrupts a normal person's ability to process emotions. It's an adverse situation. Normal people aren't built to kill. The military is popular in a lot of western countries. You are viewed highly by society for being successful in it. You are brought to believe that although you are participating in the taking of lives, you are doing a higher good for the people you love. Or maybe they direct your attention to all of the cool, non-killing parts of being in the military. Young men in particular get sucked in. It gives them a sense of direction they've never felt, and so they kill, viewing it as a sacrifice they must make against their own feelings, out of the purpose they have been given by the military. And then initially, combat can begin to have a desensitizing effect that might lead a person to actively pursue more combat-oriented work, boiling their own frog as far as their sense of what it all really means for them slowly melts away, trauma by trauma. I know it sounds cold to the victims, but the act of killing someone can be a trauma too. And a lot of times in military conflict, the victims want to kill you too. Being a sniper for the military is not quite the same as a street murder. If you fail, people you care about might die to these people. People, when placed in such immediate situations, make simpler, more immediate judgements.
It's not all so simple, you know? There are many reasons why people get into these positions. There is a difference between a soldier and a passion-killer, though I'm sure there are those who DO sign up specifically to kill people.
A lot of these guys talked about having these walls that protect them from insanity. But the wall IS the damage, the rationalizations sound insane to any normal person. Bit by bit, you lose yourself. That's your ability to process emotions unraveling. It's so much to try and deal with, that the mind develops these structures to not go there, like the Sarcophagus over Chernobyl. But these structures are bad for everyday living, and a fire of pain burns constantly beneath them. They are adaptations to situations that are not normal in people's lives. So when you place that person in normal situations, they actually are unable to cope. Like... your whole reality is broken. And when it comes to the military specifically, I can't really put the full blame on soldiers. You DO sign up for it, but it's not like nothing is done to entice you, or normative societal attitudes don't already support it. The military trains people to be able to kill. They don't necessarily walk in able to do that. Yet, the killing done by soldiers is so normalized that it seems like people hardly consider it. Why would the soldiers not think the same of it as your average person on the street? They were part of that group of civilians at one point, brought up on the same ideas.
People as individuals may enter these situations of their own volition, but never forget that well above them are far colder and more detached orchestrators. The soldiers are not the reason for the fighting.
Point is, you can go in as a fairly normal person wanting to serve your country, and come out years later completely unable to live... and you're not sure if it's the danger haunting your evenings, or the killing you once called survival and success that's making it harder. There's something so unnatural about it. People aren't supposed to be like this.
Basically, if you think you're looking at the same guy who used to be a Sniper, one of the only people deployed who really sees their kills... well, I don't know why you would think that. The person we see here is not capable of doing that anymore, and suffers greatly for ever having been that person, more a threat to himself than others (though obviously others can be at risk with PTSD, too.) Again... people like this, probably weren't meant to be killers. They were made to be them, in the ways we as a society condone and approve of. It's not something that happens in a vacuum.
I think it's a very important thing for people to understand. In the US, with so many people owning guns for protection, I don't get that sense of respect for killing. Even to kill someone in self defense is not really what you want. You can tell yourself all sorts of things about it before it ever happens, but the emotions you experience after are never as rational. We're not really built for killing one another. People with PTSD like his are basically killers who were never meant to be killers. They're not like psychopathic serial killers, where there actually is no effect. There may even have been a path for them to have lived their whole lives as sensitive, gentle people.
To be honest, I think for there to be a decline in violence and war, these things need to be deeper engrained in people. People do need to understand that killing leads to misery for everyone involved, including the killer. Not because they should have sympathy for the killer, but so people can better understand the value of life, and what leads to happiness. People might think twice about becoming a sniper when they watched this grizzled, yoked tough guy sit in tears as he recounts his experiences as a sniper.
I kind of just find it tragic all around. A man is enticed into becoming a killer by his society. He kills willingly, but doesn't truly know what it means... participates in the cycles of death and suffering, and is himself left broken by the end. Nobody wins. Now, we what... should we punish him? What does it add to anything? Who's life does it improve?
@@differentbutsimilar7893 similar to an addiction - when you can quit, you don't want to & once you want to quit, you can't
@@differentbutsimilar7893 bloody hell, this is long!
I'll need a few days to get through this with my ADHD self 🥲😭😭
Hope he suffers through every second of his pathetic existence......
The gangster guy is exactly why cops messing with young people is sometimes really counterproductive. If you treat teenagers like they're bad there are a good number of them that will live up to & exceed those expectations just out of spite.
I say if you treat me like a monster I’ll act like one🤷🏾♂️ but I try to be reasonable
Agreed, but cops are human too and you can take the best human being and after a few years of dealing with violence in your home country, you change. No different from putting a human in a war zone for years.
@@JohnDoe-gm7vk ugh, like, don't y'all bootlickers ever get tired? My cousin is a detective & my oldest's godfather is a captain & they'd be the 1st people to tell you that there is a massive issue in policing that has eroded the public trust to an incredibly unsafe degree. It's not on the public to just give officers more trust. It's on the officers to stop doing things that get them a viral video on the internet of their bad behavior. If that's too hard, you're in the wrong job. Sorry bout it.
@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 Are you even capable of intelligent independent thought? This man told you the reason cops are bad. Now work on a solution instead of crying about needing change
@@JosefZeethuven Oh look a personal attack. That's always a sure sign that you have a good argument lol.
My uncle died nearly an exact year before I was born, walked out of a bar with his friends, saw a fight, tried to stop it and got punched. One hit, he was in the hospital in a coma, died three days later. I never got to meet him, my mom and nana cry anytime its brought up, and still we all dont feel any ill towards the man who did it and his family. you never expect something like that to happen, and while I miss what I was never able to have in my uncle, I cant begin to imagine the pain the man who caused his death feels everyday, living with that reality. my heart goes out to him.
To the sniper- my family and I are refugees from the Bosnian war. I can’t imagine how painful it is what you had to do for your job but you helped save innocent lives. Without people like you, my family and I may not be here today and the war could have gone on for much longer. I hope you find peace and know that you are not a bad person, the people that you were commanded to kill needed to be stopped.
Where are you living now ?
There are no “good” or “bad” guys. As long as you’re killing other people, you don’t have moral superiority
@Erdem B ah yes you’re mocking someone who witness war firsthand while you’re on your couch eating Cheetos like a loser. Please don’t try to mock someone just for your agenda just because they have a different view than you
@@ka3097 Žao mi je da ste i vi morali živiti kroz rata. Ja imam ujku i tetku u Srbiji i oni nisu ni znali za rat i što se sve dogadjalo u Bosni u početku dok moj tata njim rekao. Sretna sam da ste ok i pobjegli. Znam da su isto neki innocent Srbi bili ubijeni pogotovu zbog bomba od NATO. Rat je naj veči zlo.
@@wulfz04 unfortunately it seems that this commentator Erdem is someone who denies the truth of the war. Serbia’s media was censored during that time and hid the truth as well as lied to its people. Its truly sad when people are manipulated with lies. Similar to how Russia is censoring their media now with the Ukrainian war
I once killed a woman with my van. Accidently reversed over her while doing a delivery (It had no backup camera. Freak accident the police said as we went around the car at the same time so I never saw her. She was old and fragile so she never stood much of a chance. Tried helping her with CPR but nothing I could do was helping. She died a couple of minutes later while I was holding her hand and telling her that she was going to be alright and that the ambulance was coming. I knew I was lying.
After that I was completely broken. Several days after the accident is totally lost from my memory and I couldn't eat or sleep. Thought about ending my own life, sort of as "payment". Some sort of redemtion. I could never do it since there was no way for anyone to explain to my dog why I suddenly stopped being there. So whenever I had those thoughts I walked my dog. I walked my dog everyday for montsh for hours. Had to carry her sometimes because we walked to far for her liking. But She was carrying me the whole time.
So I too know what it feels to kill. And I know how it tastes. And It's fucking awful.
God bless you. That's one hell of a memory, I'm sorry you had to go through that and may you find peace of mind. 🙏🏽 Rest in peace to that woman as well.
I see you and you matter
❤️
Glad you didn't do suïcide bc of your dog
R.I.P the old woman.
Damn. That made me cry.
I've worked in corrections and there is ALWAYS a guy there who hit someone and that someone never got back up. Hitting someone with enough force to knock them out is enough force to kill them. Pushing someone so hard their head hits the pavement is enough force to kill them. Grabbing someone by the neck or shoulders and giving them a full body shake is enough to kill.
DO NOT GET IN BAR FIGHTS. YOU MAY WIN.
Yes ! Exactly ! I felt this one. I very recently went through exactly that. I have a part time gig in a bar as a bartender/bouncer. I’ve done this off and on for over 25 years. I’ve always been very careful to not throw punches . I’m 6’ , 220 lbs and in very good shape for my age. I’m aware of how hard I can hit someone, so I just don’t. I use every other tactic I can to control the situation and de-escalate. I prefer talking. I never take things personally when alcohol is involved. It’s just a job. Unfortunately, about a month ago a man hit his wife right in front of me. I wasn’t even there to work. Just having dinner. I wasn’t in a good position to wrap him up and control him, as his wife and her friend were between us. I quickly placed my hands on his shoulders and told him to leave, but this guy was already too far gone and I knew it. He cocked his shoulder for a right cross and I dropped him with a quick jab. It was controlled and I wasn’t trying to do damage, but he went out and cracked his head open on the brick floor. There was a lot of blood. I had one of the employees call for an ambulance. Thankfully there was no permanent damage. Just stitches and a concussion. The guy actually wanted to press charges, but his friends who witnessed it convinced him that he was in the wrong.
The thing is, I know full well that that could have went a lot of different ways. It’s not the first time I’ve been in a situation like that, but things are very different now than when I was coming up. You can have the best reasons in the world for doing something and still end up in jail. Don’t get me wrong. I’d do it again. Right is right and wrong is still wrong, but everything is so upside down these days that one has to be very careful about doing the right thing. Take care gentlemen.
My mates Brother got into a punch up with another group of lads, he's 21 years old and is in prison for 5 years, he punched someone once and they hit their head on the pavement, tragically passing away a few hours later in hospital due to bleeding of the brain. There were about 15 young men involved in that punch up, could have been anyone of them ending up in prison , my friends brother was not a fighter, he got involved in a fight and now is paying the price in both his freedom and his conscious knowing he killed another person, his family suffer, the victim could have easily been the perpetrator, his family are suffering because of his death,
Tell that to the co's
@@jasjones6556 too real man fuck fighting its pointless
Yea my boyfriends 16 year old brother was just charged with 1st degree murder but he was lucky he was just with the other kids that actually did the damage they pushed this kid out of their car after robbing him he smacked his head of the payment then they ran over his legs and my bf brother will only do 5 years.
The one punch dude genuinely feels guilty. You can see the pain in his eyes. He probably thinks about it like it was yesterday..
The fact that the snipers eyes go wide as he basically relives the entire experience to tell the story is amazing and sad.
The sniper guy with PTSD brought tears to my eyes. I hope he recovers from all of this and lives a peaceful life with his family.
even tho i feel with him the decision to go to the army and possible killing ppl was made by himselfe, i feel with him but hes the one who decided to do that work and to kill that person, never ever forget that, i hope he will be fine in the future
You sow what you reap.
Young men always crave violence until we discover what real violence looks like. At that moment a lot of us realize we have the stomach of it or we don't.
you can listen to him n podcast for an hour and a half about his life "My Life As A Sniper - Craig Harrison tells his story".
@@wilddude4205 how I agree with u nowadays, he looks ab 40-50, and back then u didn’t get a choose if u were enlisted. U had to make the best of it
3 deeply moving stories from people with consciences, and one straight up sociopath
It breaks my heart every time i watch Craig’s video. He seems like such a good guy, who did his job, and now suffers the consequences. I hope he’s okay.
People who decide to join the defense forces really need to see the guys who came back from action, before making the decision to go in.
He sadly killed himself😞
@@revoseedit6152 Awe I hate to read this. Poor Guy it's sad
@@revoseedit6152 source?
@@revoseedit6152 no, i just looked him up. he’s alive, idk where you got that from
"if you are going to make me a bad guy I'm gonna show you how bad i can be" it actually give me chills in the spine, one decent man fall to darkness
It happens everyday. Everyone wants to blame the criminal but then turn a blind eye to what turned them into that.
Yeah, not gonna lie. That man is fucking badass
What?
@@Mr.Cthulwho what man
@@kohtasakura5175 whats confusing about that
This video is incredibly deep. The one punch guy and sniper hit me the hardest. You can see it on their faces and hear it in their words. Both had me tearing up quite a bit. We can all only hope we don't go through anything even remotely close to this.
Sniper got me bad
I have to give 'The Sniper' the utmost RESPECT and I FEEL FOR HIS PAIN; TOO MANY OF OUR TROOPS ARE COMING BACK W PTSD SUFFERING AND SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS ALOT NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED SOON ENOUGH 😢
The 2nd
@@berserker973 I’m angry for these soldiers. Sent to a country they don’t belong in, to fight someone else’s war, and forced to kill people they don’t even know if they deserve it or not. Just to be left with the burden of a crippling mental Illness
i feel like the sniper shoudnt feel bad he probably saved the lives of his entire squad on his first mission
@@DecimoTrixx well that’s an ignorant take
When the soldier talked about his dog saving his life. I never had one. I had rough days, but meeting a friendly dog, or a friendly kitten that don't even know has always made my day better. More CBT and psychotropics ever did.
Putting a gun in someone’s mouth and telling him “I’m not a gangster” is the most gangster move ever
bar for bar
@@finncarlin7173bro thought he was slick didnt he
That old gangster is straight up raw, and how he speaks, how he really feels, no sugar-coating, no telling you what you wanna hear. I'm sure he was a very scary dude when he was young, because he's a scary old man..
I found him the same.
I find him refershingly straight. Like, you fuck with innocent hardworking people, you get your head offed.
Some people only understand violence, so it's good when a "gangster" who cares about innocent people can give them the justice the legal system and law enforcement fails to.
@@JMPERager And at the same time he did have regrets, hitting the innocent, was not what he would have wanted to do, wasn't matter the fact..
@@JMPERager true until he said it was business. “It doesn’t matter if I like you or not”. That amped it up from a gangster that takes care of his neighborhood to just a hit man.
@@cduemig1 I think it's also part of his coping mechanism. Like, he can hate being called 'gangster' all he likes, which is a bit hypocritical, cause he is, but... Helping good people for free, protecting the neighborhood from time to time... It doesn't turn him into a vigilant or some sort of dark hero, right? And he does get it, straightforward about it. He's also a religious man, and tries to live acording to his principles. He could be much worse, yes. But still it doesn't make him "good". So he found a middle ground, also for his psyhe sake, looking at it realistically. He does a thing. He gets paid for it. What is it if not a job? Dehumanizing part also plays a role here.
The first story is one of the hardest situations a man can be put in. Someone you love is a victim of one of the most brutal crimes and you are left to figure out what the “right thing” is.
I'm in a similar situation right now, but in this case, I was very close friends to the assaulter, and friends, if not as close, with the assaulted. I learned the full extent of what happened little while ago, and I still don't really know what to do.
All I know is that I want to hurt my ex-best friend, and I want to hurt him badly, in a way that isn't just physical, but will stick with him, and continue to hurt him, every day for the rest of his life. I know it probably isn't healthy, but I doubt that he'll ever face any legal consequences, so hurting him is the only form of justice I can think of.
@@electroman224 I was in a very similar situation. My ex best friend did something horrible to my other best friend, he even tried to get me on his side. All you can do is be there for the friend they wronged. it’s not worth trying to hurt the person who hurt others. When it comes down to it, you will be the one to ruin your life (or your karma) by shorting another’s life or harming them the same way they harmed someone else. Whether you go to jail or not, that would be on your conscious for the rest of your life. Two wrongs dont make a right. They will get their karma, one way or another, I believe that.
I feel for both of you guys and I believe our hearts are in the right place. Keep being defenders of the vunurable. I think the best way to deal w/ this situation is to support the person that was victimized. Encourage them to come forward and bring the peice of shit to justice. Your family needs you. Society needs you to continue to defend people in the future and you can’t do that in a jail cell.
@@kelpjelli I don't, if someone I care about is hurt by another the karma they will face is me.
@@markbenn1907 that's the best way to do it but I feel like I'm not the kind of person that'd choose the best way, if my girlfriend was raped I would hunt down the motherfucker and gut him if I had the chance, the rage I feel right now just imagining it is intense, rationally I know I should stay with her and help her heal if I can but goddamn it would take everything in me to control myself and I don't know if I'd be able to.
thats crazy that a guy that killed someone by accident (but still wanted to punch someone) got 3 months and a guy who killed a rapist got 12 years. And then they talk about going to the law while nothing in here makes any sense
“You have to see ugliness to appreciate beauty.” Nothing but truth within those words.
50 said it better: Sunny days wouldn't feel good if it wasn't for rain
I see what you guys are trying to say, but I don't think that suffering is a prerequisite for enjoyment or appreciation for good things in life. That's like saying people who were never traumatized cannot feel as good about good things as people who were, and I think it's usually the opposite. People who have been heavily traumatized can sometimes have a much more difficult time feeling those sorts of things that come fairly naturally to select others.
@@jiltedlittle6868 as an individual who has been through hell and high water, feared and faced death multiple times, I can promise you that I thoroughly enjoy my life and I'm reminded daily that I clearly appreciate it far more than most people.
Bullshit.
@@jiltedlittle6868 typical redditor attitude to disagree with literally anything LMFAO just shut up and enjoy the beautiful quote instead of being like "UHMM AKSCHUALLYYYYY !!!! 🤓☝"
(don't even bother answering / disagreeing with me too, i ain't even gonna bother reading your possible answer)
My heart breaks for the 'murderer'
N I find it hard to understand why he's the only one labeled murderer
True
Sitting here thinking the same thing but I know why he is labeled as such.
We know we know 😢
Colour me murderer.
@@knightsfamilytransportatio8804 and the other dude was called one-punch killer, if you're implying that he's called a murderer because his race, then you're a moron.