@hshshsisksbcould be in general, but as said, two of them were on their positions and the girl had his father in so, obviously it’s comfortable, specially with such calm ex prisoners.. you don’t need to be that cynical
"girl in the wheelchair this" and "girl in the wheelchair that" lol, guys,... theres just one girl in the episode. Think we might figure out what girl without the chair or not.
I don't know maybe he murder an innocent person, that the only thing that can explain that if it that I don't care if he was 15 when he got arrested, at 15 I know that killing is not right
So socialism? Doesn’t quite work out. Look at any socialist country. Super high taxes and low drive to succeed because even if you make tons of money, it’ll just be taxed heavily
Imagine being 15 years old and getting a 23 years sentence. That's 8 goddamn years longer than his life has been at that point. Think of all the things you experience in life from your late teen years to your late thirties, this man spent all this time in prison. That's insane.
23 years for a 15 year old is serious. He probably did a first degree. Thats probably why he does not want to say what he did. Im guessing he has a permanent victim. But he still wants to lecture others 16:22 for doing "less time cause they privileges." He should be made to say what he did to make those kind of lectures.
@@Jerry-iv3yh What exactly do you think he did to get 23 years as a 15 year old? Spoiler: It could only have been R or M .. Take a guess... And yes, his victims were Innocents. And yes, I said Plural
The first guy was actually right about the jail vs outside world thing because ppl aren’t used to gettin punched in the face for what they do / say anymore.
Learning how to be content even though someone makes you mad is maturity. The person who “needs to get punched in the face” will get what’s coming to them eventually
@@geckopecko y’all really just be saying that about anything huh. she’s in a position that can’t NOT be a little awkward, that was just a knee jerk reaction. one of the guys got arrested for trafficking. be nice to her
Robert Forrest and Michael Weldon.. It was NOT gang related. He was just being a punk. He chased down and killed two innocent people. He should have got 30 to life.
“system failed him” bro murdered two guys. now dude blames his time on the system. 23 years seems like a long time but not as long as eternity. those two dead kids ain’t comin back
Great job guys. To have a horrible experience in the system, then to come out to help others avoid prison, advocate, and help in nonprofits is tremendous and outstanding. I see too many come out with anger and still hold issues that pull them back into the system.
love how you say this right but no one every tells them to go out and do a crime and just cause hes black dont mean shit he did something sorry to break it to you
Cut should do a video like this one for women who have been in prison as well. It would be interesting to hear how the dynamics of living as an incarcerated woman compare to these men's stories !
My ex was 15 when he got charged with 13 years really on the stupidest thing he really did not deserve it. He decided to run to Mexico and they eventually caught up with him. After 6 and half years, a few months before his parole hearing, he took his own life. I am really glad to see that they were able to get out, turn their lives around and share their stories!
Re one of the guessers: A 12.5-years prison sentence for robbery for a 16-year-old is a ridiculously long sentence. People get shorter sentences for murder.
Saddening but also a very heartwarming video. Incredible how these men have turned their lives around, and big ups to how they're working to give back to their community and continue to better themselves. Well done!
@@honeycrispapples7748 If you don't see how a teenager like that can get sucked into gang life, you're either privileged or ignorant. Edit: To be clear, I'm not saying what he did is justifiable. But it's possible to be a perpetrator of violence and a victim of the system. If he'd stayed in, he would not have been rebilitated and could not have helped rehabilitate other people. He can have repented and still have taken two innocent lives, both can be true at the same time.
The Asian guy is my uncle, one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. I remember my parents visiting him in prison and talking to him all the time on the phone. He is very well spoken and helps the youth today. Love you uncle Hay.
the guy in the red and the guy with the APICAG hoodie on made some great points! i love that they’re bringing awareness and being mentors to younger kids/people in general who look like them.
In 1995 the Asian guy was sentenced to over 75 years in prison after he was convicted of two counts of murder in the first degree for his involvement in the shooting of two teenagers, Robert Forrest and Michael Welden. The teenagers had egged a house that Insyxiengmay and other members of the gang controlled. He begged for a Pardon but the family said: The impact of my brother’s death has had a significant impact on both my parents, notably my mother, who is also an immigrant, who also came to this country not knowing the language, not knowing the American culture, but she survived,” Kathleen Forrest, the sister of Robert Forrest, said. “As Mr. [Insyxiengmay] probably knows, in the Asian culture, children are the most important thing. My brother was her life.
Yeah it’s crazy that people are saying 23 years is too much. At 15 your brain is developed enough to know not to murder. And the driver who was 17 got 3 life sentences. More than the actual murderer.
@@klsygrmsIt’s really disturbing that these incarcerated men are griping about their treatment…blah blah… society screwed me over. That may be a factor, but it’s not the lesson to take away from being a violent offender.
@@idontsurf1 he turned his life around and he was clearly not proud of what he did at all. He wasnt lamenting the police for giving him an unfair sentence, he was lamenting the prison system for unfairly discriminating against him WHILE he was in prison for being asian.
@@klsygrms Most 15 year olds don't commit murder because they're never put into the position of murder even becoming an option. Yes, anyone could techinically murder someone but to be pushed there, you have to have gone through intense circumstances like poverty, discrimination, physical and emotional violence and even specific types of brain injury. No one is born to become a murderer and children are not fully developed, they will inevitably make bad judgment calls and act impulsively. Some children have systems and checks in place where they may only ever be able to fuck up once and be corrected but some children slide into bad decision after bad decision combined with bad circumstances. This is how the circle of crime starts and escalates. Not everyone is privileged enough to grow up with empathy and space to be soft (in the best way), some people have that beaten out of them and so they perpetrate it further. It doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences and it will never take those actions back. Locking up a 15 year old for 23 years doesn't make the dead teenagers come back, no matter how much the family needs and deserves it and they do, of course. All that this guy can do is attempt the least of reparations that he can and he seems to be doing that with his rehabilitation organization which means less people doing crimes. It can genuinely lead to redirecting someone who could have gone on to murder someone innocent.
@@kell-yh4ec if it was a 15 year old 90 pound sweet innocent little blonde girl with blue eyes I doubt u would ask that. The brain doesn't fully develop till 25. Ur not even allowed to make decisions 4 urself until ur 18. U can't drink or smoke until ur 21. And u think u should get a 23 years sentencing at 15?
If they are so smart they wouldn't do the things that made them end up in prison in first place. That being said it's good that they seemed to have learned from their mistakes.
Extremely informative for all the right reasons! I'm glad they got a platform to talk about their experience and thoughts about their time in prison. So thankful y'all are doing great and continue doing great! 🙏🏻
A big thank you to these guys for coming in and speaking about their experiences. It's so insightful to hear opinions, stories and the reality of spending 7 months - 23 years in prison. It's great to know they're all out and having a positive impact on society ❤
What the 23 guy said is wisdom. “If these young people had the resources to get a higher education out here, they wouldn’t have had to get it incarcerated ”
16:23 Bingo!!! I was hoping this was brought up bc it truly does make a difference in how sentences are given. And yet the dude who sold drugs to a COP says he got a lawyer to fight it & basically got off is INSANE!! He definitely used his privilege to his advantage & doesn’t seem that he’s truly learned the depth of what he did & how that could’ve turned out drastically different for someone else who probably/most likely couldn’t fight it the same way.
@@Drunkenvirtue and? What does that have to do with the FACT that it happens which is my point. A more serious crime or not? Where have you been living that you don’t know this.
@@TheCRYSTALLURE pretty sure they were using their own situations as examples of receiving less privilege compared to the white people... which is ridiculous since their offenses were far worse.
@@edificios.y.ciudades that the system is just finding new ways to keep black and brown people enslaved… he said it himself. His first offense he got 10 years. The guy who did 7 months was white so got a MUCH smaller sentence.
@@savannahniniyou can’t “keep” brown people enslaved because they were never slaves. Let’s stop conflating the black and brown plight because they are completely different.
the quirky music while a man recants how traumatizing being a black man in the US is was in poor taste, ive seen videos where the song is stopped while something emotional is being spoken of and this was not it
This made me so sad. As soon as I saw the younger yt guy and he said he “lawyered up” I KNEW he got the 7 months. It’s messed up. POC typically don’t have that type of privilege and that’s why they get higher sentences.
I wish privileged wyt people would stop including poor wyt people into their own economic privileged class. Wyt ppl make up the majority of poor people in the US. To act like it's a wyt thing for people to have access to lawyers and resources is just not true. You're missing class.
True, but in these specific cases there was also a huge difference in crimes. The ppl of color committed violent crimes, while the white ppl had mostly drug charges. The Asian guy also failed to mention he committed double homicide In 1995 at the age of 15 , leading to a 23 year sentence ( which I believe is still kind of lenient for killing 2 people )
16:22 this is my takeaway from the video 👏 wishing this man and all these guys peace and prosperity going forward, and I’ll keep using my civil rights to promote reps and legislation that help marginalized communities
I feel like we didn't get enough background on what they were charged with and why. They all seems like law abiding citizens now but I have to remember there are possible victims behind these reformed criminals who may not even be here anymore. I hope rape and murder were none of their charges but I doubt it.
You mean like the guy that got 23 years? Yeah. He was holding out on info. Someone was probably unalived. And people don't realize that even a lot of gang related robberies still involve SA.
Asian dude committed double homicide in 1995 at the age of 15, leading to a 23 year sentence. He talks about how the sentence differ so much between races, but also fails to mention the huge difference between the ppl of color having committed violent crimes in this video and the white ppl having drug charges
This video is so important. Thanks, Cut, for sharing this. And the kindness and silliness in this video-I had a huge smile on my face. Wishing all of these folks a lifetime of blessings.
I worked as a therapist Intern in 3 various prisons in San Bernardino County, now living in Seattle, and would love to do something like this as well as get connected with mental health programs for justice-involved individuals in the wa area!
Excellent video. As always, Cut is respectful as hell in these videos (unlike a certain competitor channel on youtube…). So lovely to see the girl guessing back on the channel again
@@SevenFifth damn ima black male and i lived in hawaii for two years while in the navy and moved back home to atlanta when i got out and told my friends i liked surfing and they thought i was talking about the internet.
Really enjoyed watching this. Thank you to everyone who shared their experience. For these men to take their experience and invest to help the ones still inside says a lot about them.
"I learned how powerful of a person I am, as a person, but I also learned how powerful we are, as a people, period, together." This man is wiser than most! 😭❤
So one thing that authoritarian systems have in common is that they tend to criminalize _everyone_ and then look the other way when their own group inevitably breaks the same laws with little consequence that others are punished severely for. This maintains the power imbalance that is the point of the whole system.
While I agree, the white guys that were there commited mostly drug crimes, while the ppl of color committed violent crimes. The guy who got 23 yrs at 15 y/o forgot to mention that he was sentenced to 23 yrs for double homicide in 1995. It's easy to say stuff like that, but you can't compare anything if the crimes are nowhere near as serious
I appreciate this video and all the gentlemen that were in this video. Thank you for showing that men of all races have gone to prison, but all have served their time and all have come out and made changes
Anyone who says that sentencing someone to 20+ years at 15 is too much needs to take a good look at teenage killers. There are many videos online, see how you like 'em. You're seeing him as an adult who (almost) paid for his crimes and learned his lesson, bet his attitude wasn't this great before he went to prison.
Shouldn't the fact that he was the driver be considered as, well, if we're going to go that far? He was definitely an accessory but there's still a difference in pulling the trigger.
@@deb1920 Has it even been confirmed that he was the driver? Anyway, if you are part of the plan then it doesn't matter whether you actually pulled the trigger or not. Say someone planned the whole murder but hired someone else to pull the trigger, in what world are they less guilty?
the kid that did the 7 months is basically my ex kyle. white, first time offender, drug charge, did all the proper steps like rehab and working a legal job. but he did like 2-3 months but the trial took over a year
I am loving these. it breaks my heart. my partner is Iraqi came to US as refugee and was bullied, beat up, stereotyped by teachers, principals, fellow peers. He could have easily token the wrong path and the system wouldn't have helped him one bit. I am afro Brasilian and I have been in so many racial profiling situations myself and have been in 1 this year as someone with a professional career, higher education, and in my mid thirties. The stereotypes in this country are insane!
Amazing video! Great guessers and everyone was so respectful and kind no matter their experience or background. It was so inspiring to see so many people who fight for others
This man who is lecturing others for doing less time for being yt.. when he's actually a murderer of two innocent teenage boys & sentenced to life but got out somehow 🤷🏻♀️ What a world!!
You missed the point on what his message was. He’s wasn’t trying to say that the time he served was unfair, because of what he was in for, he was trying to say how the justice system unfairly treats offenders of color, compared to white offenders. He was implying that if a white person did something similar that he did for instance, the system would be easier on them (reduced prison sentence, lower bail, easier to get a lawyer to defend them, etc.). He believes that offenders of all races must be treated equally and face equal consequences with their crimes. He was saying how the prison system intentionally screws over non-white offenders. Think before you post a comment like this
It’s so amazing to see how these some of these men transformed their lives after prison, despite all of the challenges that come during or following incarceration. Their resilience and strength, as well as their service to their communities is extremely commendable
“were you terribly harmed or in trauma before you went to prison?” “no, i was just black.” that really stuck with me. such a good quote and example or how the law treats us poc.
I’m so proud of all these people for changing their lives for the better for themselves, their families and the communities!! Much respect, appreciation and blessings to all of them.
I liked how polite and not judgmental the guessers were.
2 of them were in prison. The girl has experience growing up with her father being in jail. It comes from a place of relating and understanding.
@@Charlene_____it’s unfortunate a lot of people have to have personal experiences to empathize w others as humans and not monsters
@hshshsisksbcould be in general, but as said, two of them were on their positions and the girl had his father in so, obviously it’s comfortable, specially with such calm ex prisoners.. you don’t need to be that cynical
Why would they be judgemental?
@@zidane8452 a lot of folks are sadly
Eddie and the guy who shared a cell together were honestly pretty wholesome
Thank you!
@@eddiepurpose9630 I'd love to share a room with ya eddie 😉🙃😍
cause they was in each others butts 😅
she really said "slay" to his charges 😭bring miss girl back
Time code 😭
@@jonsonchanthaboune2963 5:30
@@jonsonchanthaboune2963 5:32
@@jonsonchanthaboune29635:30
then he said trafficking and she had tone it down a little😭😭
"girl in the wheelchair this" and "girl in the wheelchair that" lol, guys,... theres just one girl in the episode. Think we might figure out what girl without the chair or not.
😂😂😂👍
I think girl in the wheelchair doesn’t give a fuck. But sure.
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Such a great point!
"That being said.... he did 23 years" 😂
“oh yeah me too i love snowboarding “ 😭
Immediately followed by an Ad.
I love her humor 😂😂
Funny as fuck😂
How do you snowboard while in a wheelchair?
@@a.j.marcantonio153 You put 2 snowbboard in each pair of wheels.
The guy that spent 23 years actually has me feeling so bad because he was FIFTEEN FIFTEEN and he's 38 now
He's actually older, gotta factor in the time he spent working and advocating for APICAG after he got out.
They really fucking screwed this kid over.
I don't know maybe he murder an innocent person, that the only thing that can explain that if it that I don't care if he was 15 when he got arrested, at 15 I know that killing is not right
He said he’s been out for 6 years so he’s around 44
‘merica
he killed two people
“Uhhh…. that shit was ass” 😂😂😂😂😂
"it was trash" LMAO
This absolutely killed me 😂😂
i burst out laughing after seeing this scene 💀
@@janine9790 ikr, the way it just cut to him saying that so bluntly 😂
i busted out laughing
"Give people what they need" is such a simple idea, but for some reason difficult to do. I think he's spot on.
some reason: capitalism
some reason= capitalism
Pell grants offer kids an education from low means. The support structures are already there, but they have to be utilized.
So socialism? Doesn’t quite work out. Look at any socialist country. Super high taxes and low drive to succeed because even if you make tons of money, it’ll just be taxed heavily
@@RachelCrabtreeCorrect they are there! However, the desire has to be within a person to want to succeed! A flame can’t light without a spark.
Imagine being 15 years old and getting a 23 years sentence. That's 8 goddamn years longer than his life has been at that point. Think of all the things you experience in life from your late teen years to your late thirties, this man spent all this time in prison. That's insane.
Honestly his sentence was probably longer and he got off on probation or good behaviour.
‘merica
23 years for a 15 year old is serious. He probably did a first degree. Thats probably why he does not want to say what he did. Im guessing he has a permanent victim. But he still wants to lecture others 16:22 for doing "less time cause they privileges."
He should be made to say what he did to make those kind of lectures.
@@bevs9995 the crime he did doesnt make him wrong.
@@Jerry-iv3yh What exactly do you think he did to get 23 years as a 15 year old?
Spoiler: It could only have been R or M .. Take a guess...
And yes, his victims were Innocents.
And yes, I said Plural
the girl was so sweet i loved how she asked them what they did for fun
I love the girls awkward humor
i hated it lol
@@rowengrayywell you can hush
we need more of her!!!
@@rowengrayyi didnt lol
@@Happypotato917why am i dying at this comment 😂😂
I need a female version
That would be interesting 🤔 it is strange they didn't get any women for this lineup
Yes seriously would be interesting
Since this is all men they prob will do one with all woman hopefully. That would be sick
yes
@@Miss_Kisa94not as many women went to prison. i know a few guys that went there but i dont know any women that have
17:56 - "that shit was ass" LMAOOOOOO
😂😂😂😂😂 why they didn’t laugh is beyond me I would’ve died
Lmaoo I laughed hard asf I’m surprised no one laughed 😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yes I bussed out laughing at that
I feel like they have something against each other because dude in the maroon was acting weird towards him really to each other
Always love seeing Raymond, just seems like a quality guy
Very much a Raymond fan too. Respectful, funny, doesn’t assume & him and his partner are the cutest ever ❤️🥹
Hes soooo hot!!! Haha. @taylahjane8486
@taylahjane8486 which guy is raymond?
The first guy was actually right about the jail vs outside world thing because ppl aren’t used to gettin punched in the face for what they do / say anymore.
yeah from that sentence alone I knew that he been in jail for a while, also the way he carried himself
You shouldn’t have to get punched in the face to just be a good person
@@dumdumdugan1940very true. some people do need a reality punch though, only way they'll learn to mind their own shit 😂
Learning how to be content even though someone makes you mad is maturity. The person who “needs to get punched in the face” will get what’s coming to them eventually
@@dumdumdugan1940 very true, but the internet has enabled foolery and people know they won't knocked TF out anymore so they overdo
"robbery, assault, possession-" "ok slay"
RIGHT LMAOO
That was cringe
you can tell she grew up fatherless lol
@@geckopecko yikes but ya. She seems sweet but some toxic things got engrained in her unfortunately :(
@@geckopecko y’all really just be saying that about anything huh. she’s in a position that can’t NOT be a little awkward, that was just a knee jerk reaction. one of the guys got arrested for trafficking. be nice to her
The one who was in the gang and sentenced at 15, the system failed him. But I’m glad to see he turned his life around n came out better
The system can’t fail you if it’s operating the way it was intended to. The prison industrial complex is designed to persecute youth of color.
Robert Forrest and Michael Weldon..
It was NOT gang related. He was just being a punk. He chased down and killed two innocent people. He should have got 30 to life.
Nuh-uh no. His crime was not gang related. He shot two innocent people for fun. Robert Forrest and Michael Weldon
“system failed him” bro murdered two guys. now dude blames his time on the system. 23 years seems like a long time but not as long as eternity. those two dead kids ain’t comin back
@@bevs9995for fun?? Where do you get your information?
Great job guys. To have a horrible experience in the system, then to come out to help others avoid prison, advocate, and help in nonprofits is tremendous and outstanding. I see too many come out with anger and still hold issues that pull them back into the system.
yea great for you for trusting a murderer who believes he is a victim
absolutely agree! i love how often it came down to the macro-level rather than individual, especially on how life is after!
So true I feel so sad for the person who took away 2 people's lives
@@layal3018You can be a perpetrator and a victim in the same life time. What a ground breaking discovery! The world isn’t all black and white
Bring her back. Cute, polite, great sense of style, and lowkey hilarious!
23 years is INSANE
and at 15...
@@juanmacias5922 RIGHTTT?!
@hshshsisksb I think he mentioned something about gangs, and having a gun on him?
Just like taking lives is...
@hshshsisksbdefinitely murder for 23 years at 15
I love the guy in red’s final point. It needs to be explained just like that.
love how you say this right but no one every tells them to go out and do a crime and just cause hes black dont mean shit he did something sorry to break it to you
@@Tcfnate I knew one would come eventually.
lol it was also a violent crime with a weapon by his own addition let’s have a little bit of personal accountability everyone
To the rest of you that will come. Have a blessed day!
@@Sautebalone Bald white guy did atleast two violent crimes yet he only served 5 years? Explain that plz
Cut should do a video like this one for women who have been in prison as well. It would be interesting to hear how the dynamics of living as an incarcerated woman compare to these men's stories !
My ex was 15 when he got charged with 13 years really on the stupidest thing he really did not deserve it. He decided to run to Mexico and they eventually caught up with him. After 6 and half years, a few months before his parole hearing, he took his own life. I am really glad to see that they were able to get out, turn their lives around and share their stories!
What did he do?
i'm sorry to hear that. he was almost there... that's awful. i hope you & his family are able to remember the good times with him.❤️
whatd he do?
Judges don't just go and give 13 years to the first person on the street tho, you seem very biased towards your ex. Sorry for your loss tho
@@damianoabbina9967bro was 15 what could he have possibly done that warranted ruining his life at 15.. not doing homework?
They did Mr. 23 years dirty just giving him an insane amount of time at 15 with no juvie or resources to turn his life around without prison.
Also Mr 10 years too! Also did him dirty
Robert Forrest and Michael Weldon
@bevs9995 thank you!
I agree, though some states are crazy strict with homicide convictions
I mean killing 2 people is pretty serious stuff
I love how the girl always asks if the person is comfortable to say what the person did.
Re one of the guessers: A 12.5-years prison sentence for robbery for a 16-year-old is a ridiculously long sentence. People get shorter sentences for murder.
I've noticed over the years how people get more years for robbery and kidnapping than murder.
@@deb1920 Thank you. Yes, and it’s crazy.
"I wasn't in a gang, don't have any tattoos..."
Raymond's face is like 🫤
Super informative of first hand experiences. I really appreciate everyone being so candid and using the opportunity to spread truth.
14:27 and 14:31 -- give these men chairs!!
Shoutout to the brother who took his prison experience and made himself better and is helping others now. That's the way to do it.
I love the girl in the wheelchair.
Her humor and beauty are next level.
She’s the only girl there.
@@aliveandwell3958 She's also in a wheelchair. Both statements are correct, dont make it such a big deal
damn thats one dapper drug dealer
still dapper but no more dealer
time?
The white ginger guy
@@blosone 17:55
I want the girl to be in more videos. she's hilarious and very respectful
Saddening but also a very heartwarming video. Incredible how these men have turned their lives around, and big ups to how they're working to give back to their community and continue to better themselves. Well done!
I love the girl guesser, she’s amazingly sweet and respectful with asking if they’re comfortable or not sharing.
The boys with the longer times stay with their hands deep in their pockets
I wonder why
Could you explain? I can only make assumptions that are probably totally wrong.
interesting
Always got that hand on that shank
What does this mean?😅
23 years in prison is a CRAAAAZY concept to imagine. that is almost my entire life. wow.
the two 17 year olds he murdered never got to even live to see 23.
@@honeycrispapples7748 If you don't see how a teenager like that can get sucked into gang life, you're either privileged or ignorant.
Edit: To be clear, I'm not saying what he did is justifiable. But it's possible to be a perpetrator of violence and a victim of the system. If he'd stayed in, he would not have been rebilitated and could not have helped rehabilitate other people. He can have repented and still have taken two innocent lives, both can be true at the same time.
The Asian guy is my uncle, one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. I remember my parents visiting him in prison and talking to him all the time on the phone. He is very well spoken and helps the youth today. Love you uncle Hay.
I’m 7 minutes in and have watched FIVE mayonnaise ads😭😂
I’m 7 minutes in and ate five tubes of mayonnaise 😋
I’m 7 minutes in and I am dreaming of eating mayonnaise
So like... Did they work? You wanna munch on some mayo rn? 💀
7 minutes in and dying in the hospital from too much mayonnaise
I'm 7 minutes in and is mayonnaise an instrument?
the guy in the red and the guy with the APICAG hoodie on made some great points! i love that they’re bringing awareness and being mentors to younger kids/people in general who look like them.
The fact that they all completely changed their life around is amazing. Respect!
In 1995 the Asian guy was sentenced to over 75 years in prison after he was convicted of two counts of murder in the first degree for his involvement in the shooting of two teenagers, Robert Forrest and Michael Welden. The teenagers had egged a house that Insyxiengmay and other members of the gang controlled. He begged for a Pardon but the family said: The impact of my brother’s death has had a significant impact on both my parents, notably my mother, who is also an immigrant, who also came to this country not knowing the language, not knowing the American culture, but she survived,” Kathleen Forrest, the sister of Robert Forrest, said. “As Mr. [Insyxiengmay] probably knows, in the Asian culture, children are the most important thing. My brother was her life.
Yeah it’s crazy that people are saying 23 years is too much. At 15 your brain is developed enough to know not to murder. And the driver who was 17 got 3 life sentences. More than the actual murderer.
@@klsygrmsIt’s really disturbing that these incarcerated men are griping about their treatment…blah blah… society screwed me over. That may be a factor, but it’s not the lesson to take away from being a violent offender.
@@klsygrms Literally. The murdered kids were 17. They don't get their lives back. He deserved every year of that sentence.
@@idontsurf1 he turned his life around and he was clearly not proud of what he did at all. He wasnt lamenting the police for giving him an unfair sentence, he was lamenting the prison system for unfairly discriminating against him WHILE he was in prison for being asian.
@@klsygrms Most 15 year olds don't commit murder because they're never put into the position of murder even becoming an option. Yes, anyone could techinically murder someone but to be pushed there, you have to have gone through intense circumstances like poverty, discrimination, physical and emotional violence and even specific types of brain injury.
No one is born to become a murderer and children are not fully developed, they will inevitably make bad judgment calls and act impulsively. Some children have systems and checks in place where they may only ever be able to fuck up once and be corrected but some children slide into bad decision after bad decision combined with bad circumstances. This is how the circle of crime starts and escalates.
Not everyone is privileged enough to grow up with empathy and space to be soft (in the best way), some people have that beaten out of them and so they perpetrate it further. It doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences and it will never take those actions back. Locking up a 15 year old for 23 years doesn't make the dead teenagers come back, no matter how much the family needs and deserves it and they do, of course. All that this guy can do is attempt the least of reparations that he can and he seems to be doing that with his rehabilitation organization which means less people doing crimes. It can genuinely lead to redirecting someone who could have gone on to murder someone innocent.
This is one of the best vids Cut has done in a while. Absolutely fantastic.
The girl in the wheelchair gives off Dakota Johnson vibes
fr thoo!~
She reminds me of a younger Joey King
I was thinking Emma Stone but yeah I think you are closer
Guy with the white shirt is really good looking!
Trying 15 year olds as adults should be illegal. That DA and judge should be doing time for child endangerment and abuse.
Why should it be?
@@kell-yh4ecbecause 15 year olds are children? Seems obvious.
@@kell-yh4ec if it was a 15 year old 90 pound sweet innocent little blonde girl with blue eyes I doubt u would ask that. The brain doesn't fully develop till 25. Ur not even allowed to make decisions 4 urself until ur 18. U can't drink or smoke until ur 21. And u think u should get a 23 years sentencing at 15?
@@MrsLangdonAlger they are very close to 18. They are not little kids who dont know any better
@@AngelRivera-de1lq i would say the same. 18 is considered a full grown adult and if they did the same crime they would get life. 23 years is nothing.
the laos guy who knew one of the guessers is HOT i had to say it
Agreed. 😂 But he is also an amazing advocate.
That’s all I was thinking too
Definitely a handsome man.
ight calm down pal
Thank you, you’re not alone here 😂
I honestly admire these men, they are sooo smart. I learned so much! :)
yesss, you can tell they've grown so much
If they are so smart they wouldn't do the things that made them end up in prison in first place. That being said it's good that they seemed to have learned from their mistakes.
@Skeppsvrak you can be stupid in the past, but change to be smart. it's called growing and learning from past mistakes
i love these videos they help raise awareness and also destigmatize people who got incarcerated
Extremely informative for all the right reasons! I'm glad they got a platform to talk about their experience and thoughts about their time in prison. So thankful y'all are doing great and continue doing great! 🙏🏻
A big thank you to these guys for coming in and speaking about their experiences. It's so insightful to hear opinions, stories and the reality of spending 7 months - 23 years in prison. It's great to know they're all out and having a positive impact on society ❤
These guys are humble and amazing. Turned shit situations into something positive and genuinely try to give back.
I see Raymond, I click.
How did you see him before clicking if he's not in the thumb 🤔
@@voiddroid. When you hover over a video it starts playing part of it, at least on desktop. Ok
@@saoirseviolet9284 oh i'm a mobile user, makes sense 🤷♂️
@@saoirseviolet9284 Just say you like a handsome white guy. 😂
@@saoirseviolet9284 Are you blind or something?
Eddie purpose is hilarious! 9:08 “big ol drugs” 🤣
this is an awesome episode. i love the episodes that can show the public that incarcerated folks are people too. much love!
What the 23 guy said is wisdom. “If these young people had the resources to get a higher education out here, they wouldn’t have had to get it incarcerated ”
Bro shot 4 people and killed 2 at 15 just because they egged his house, none of that comes from not having opportunities...
16:23 Bingo!!! I was hoping this was brought up bc it truly does make a difference in how sentences are given. And yet the dude who sold drugs to a COP says he got a lawyer to fight it & basically got off is INSANE!! He definitely used his privilege to his advantage & doesn’t seem that he’s truly learned the depth of what he did & how that could’ve turned out drastically different for someone else who probably/most likely couldn’t fight it the same way.
oh yeah let's hear out the guy two killed two innocent people 🙄 at least he has the privilege to live
@@geckopecko Aw I guess you don’t like Bingo huh?
Or maybe they committed more serious crimes 💀
@@Drunkenvirtue and? What does that have to do with the FACT that it happens which is my point. A more serious crime or not? Where have you been living that you don’t know this.
@@TheCRYSTALLURE pretty sure they were using their own situations as examples of receiving less privilege compared to the white people... which is ridiculous since their offenses were far worse.
you can’t fool me, I know that one guy is actually just Logic
Same damn energy and everything
Man, I have never agreed with a statement more than the man who was incarcerated for 10 years said.
Why?
@@edificios.y.ciudades that the system is just finding new ways to keep black and brown people enslaved… he said it himself. His first offense he got 10 years. The guy who did 7 months was white so got a MUCH smaller sentence.
@@savannahniniyou can’t “keep” brown people enslaved because they were never slaves. Let’s stop conflating the black and brown plight because they are completely different.
@@savannahnini well the guy with 7 month didn't do a violent crime with a gun
@@savannahnini How about don't do the crime so you wont be 'enslaved' into prison?
I appreciate this video and the conversations thay were had.
6:54 bruh this made me smile so hard aw😂
the quirky music while a man recants how traumatizing being a black man in the US is was in poor taste, ive seen videos where the song is stopped while something emotional is being spoken of and this was not it
Yeah... that was kinda not the best choice.
Agreed!
Whomp whomp
Glad someone else noticed it.
“Oh yeah me too I love snowboarding” 😂😂😂
Snowboarding is coke right?
This made me so sad. As soon as I saw the younger yt guy and he said he “lawyered up” I KNEW he got the 7 months. It’s messed up. POC typically don’t have that type of privilege and that’s why they get higher sentences.
I wish privileged wyt people would stop including poor wyt people into their own economic privileged class. Wyt ppl make up the majority of poor people in the US. To act like it's a wyt thing for people to have access to lawyers and resources is just not true. You're missing class.
True, but in these specific cases there was also a huge difference in crimes. The ppl of color committed violent crimes, while the white ppl had mostly drug charges. The Asian guy also failed to mention he committed double homicide In 1995 at the age of 15 , leading to a 23 year sentence ( which I believe is still kind of lenient for killing 2 people )
Cut deleting comments that point out class, i see
his crime was also non-violent and first time lol you can’t compare him to these other dudes
all have the same rights.. but all had different crimes 😏
the fact that drug ralated crimes get more time then sa is crazy
16:22 this is my takeaway from the video 👏 wishing this man and all these guys peace and prosperity going forward, and I’ll keep using my civil rights to promote reps and legislation that help marginalized communities
I feel like we didn't get enough background on what they were charged with and why. They all seems like law abiding citizens now but I have to remember there are possible victims behind these reformed criminals who may not even be here anymore. I hope rape and murder were none of their charges but I doubt it.
You mean like the guy that got 23 years? Yeah. He was holding out on info. Someone was probably unalived. And people don't realize that even a lot of gang related robberies still involve SA.
Asian dude committed double homicide in 1995 at the age of 15, leading to a 23 year sentence. He talks about how the sentence differ so much between races, but also fails to mention the huge difference between the ppl of color having committed violent crimes in this video and the white ppl having drug charges
The Asian guy who did 23 years at 15 has two dead victims
he got 23 years for killing Robert Forrest and Michael Welden
@@geckopeckoHe got 23 years for being the driver. Another person killed them.
This video is so important. Thanks, Cut, for sharing this. And the kindness and silliness in this video-I had a huge smile on my face. Wishing all of these folks a lifetime of blessings.
I worked as a therapist Intern in 3 various prisons in San Bernardino County, now living in Seattle, and would love to do something like this as well as get connected with mental health programs for justice-involved individuals in the wa area!
"what was your experience?" "that shit was ass... that was trash" BYE THAT HAD ME ROFL 😂
This was honestly a fucking beautiful episode. Really really loved this.
Excellent video. As always, Cut is respectful as hell in these videos (unlike a certain competitor channel on youtube…).
So lovely to see the girl guessing back on the channel again
Me sitting here thinking “snowboard” was code for something else 😂
same! i was waiting for someone to catch on but maybe they do genuinely like snowboarding lmao
They’re definitely talking about coke lol. I highly doubt the guy in the red snowboards 😂
@@SevenFifth damn ima black male and i lived in hawaii for two years while in the navy and moved back home to atlanta when i got out and told my friends i liked surfing and they thought i was talking about the internet.
Really enjoyed watching this. Thank you to everyone who shared their experience. For these men to take their experience and invest to help the ones still inside says a lot about them.
This was genuinely a great video that helped shed much light 🙌🏻 May God bless these reformed men.
"I learned how powerful of a person I am, as a person, but I also learned how powerful we are, as a people, period, together." This man is wiser than most! 😭❤
So one thing that authoritarian systems have in common is that they tend to criminalize _everyone_ and then look the other way when their own group inevitably breaks the same laws with little consequence that others are punished severely for. This maintains the power imbalance that is the point of the whole system.
@hshshsisksb Sounds like you have nothing of substance to counter with.
Police and the justice system exist to maintain class, first and foremost.
@@ncorp2668 yes but class and race are deeply interconnected
While I agree, the white guys that were there commited mostly drug crimes, while the ppl of color committed violent crimes. The guy who got 23 yrs at 15 y/o forgot to mention that he was sentenced to 23 yrs for double homicide in 1995. It's easy to say stuff like that, but you can't compare anything if the crimes are nowhere near as serious
@@Stella-iW123 Race is an extension of class, like most things.
I appreciate this video and all the gentlemen that were in this video. Thank you for showing that men of all races have gone to prison, but all have served their time and all have come out and made changes
The girl’s move of questioning about food was actually kinda ingenious!
0:40
Raymond is a saint, I love him for this 👏👏👏
Anyone who says that sentencing someone to 20+ years at 15 is too much needs to take a good look at teenage killers. There are many videos online, see how you like 'em. You're seeing him as an adult who (almost) paid for his crimes and learned his lesson, bet his attitude wasn't this great before he went to prison.
Shouldn't the fact that he was the driver be considered as, well, if we're going to go that far? He was definitely an accessory but there's still a difference in pulling the trigger.
@@deb1920 Has it even been confirmed that he was the driver? Anyway, if you are part of the plan then it doesn't matter whether you actually pulled the trigger or not. Say someone planned the whole murder but hired someone else to pull the trigger, in what world are they less guilty?
@@deb1920he wasn’t the driver. there was an 18 year old that was. he was the one that pulled the trigger
@@bridgdjxnfkdzkx 5 months larger, this can't even be a fruitful conversation.
the kid that did the 7 months is basically my ex kyle. white, first time offender, drug charge, did all the proper steps like rehab and working a legal job. but he did like 2-3 months but the trial took over a year
please invite the girl more often, she’s great
ppl who been to prison appreciate life… most ppl take life for granted and don’t get how precious this life is
love your videos cut!!!
I am loving these. it breaks my heart. my partner is Iraqi came to US as refugee and was bullied, beat up, stereotyped by teachers, principals, fellow peers. He could have easily token the wrong path and the system wouldn't have helped him one bit. I am afro Brasilian and I have been in so many racial profiling situations myself and have been in 1 this year as someone with a professional career, higher education, and in my mid thirties. The stereotypes in this country are insane!
“what kind of crime did you commit?” “violent” 😭
0:31 her stockings and shoes are so cute
Props for bringing a person that's wheelchair bound!
The girl is eloquent and asks very good questions, bring her back for more.
Wild that he got everyone right
Amazing video! Great guessers and everyone was so respectful and kind no matter their experience or background. It was so inspiring to see so many people who fight for others
This was informative!
This man who is lecturing others for doing less time for being yt.. when he's actually a murderer of two innocent teenage boys & sentenced to life but got out somehow 🤷🏻♀️
What a world!!
You missed the point on what his message was. He’s wasn’t trying to say that the time he served was unfair, because of what he was in for, he was trying to say how the justice system unfairly treats offenders of color, compared to white offenders. He was implying that if a white person did something similar that he did for instance, the system would be easier on them (reduced prison sentence, lower bail, easier to get a lawyer to defend them, etc.). He believes that offenders of all races must be treated equally and face equal consequences with their crimes. He was saying how the prison system intentionally screws over non-white offenders. Think before you post a comment like this
It’s so amazing to see how these some of these men transformed their lives after prison, despite all of the challenges that come during or following incarceration. Their resilience and strength, as well as their service to their communities is extremely commendable
Who else clapped when he said he just had a baby? 7:18
“were you terribly harmed or in trauma before you went to prison?”
“no, i was just black.”
that really stuck with me. such a good quote and example or how the law treats us poc.
do you also think the girl kinda gives rory gilmore vibes hahaha
omg ily
I’m so proud of all these people for changing their lives for the better for themselves, their families and the communities!! Much respect, appreciation and blessings to all of them.