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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @oliviak9978
    @oliviak9978 3 года назад +86954

    I can’t believe Jubilee filmed my family getting together for the holidays

  • @katiesbothers
    @katiesbothers 3 года назад +17253

    "People in the church hurt you, not God." - Oof that struck a chord.

    • @HoodedSpidey
      @HoodedSpidey 3 года назад +262

      For arguments sake, humans hurt you outside the church too. As an omnipotent being, is God hurting you by not preventing your harm?

    • @masochistic_lele4414
      @masochistic_lele4414 3 года назад +303

      I just feel the building doesn’t matter. It’s the relationship with god.

    • @Hello-qf3fd
      @Hello-qf3fd 3 года назад +1031

      @@HoodedSpidey The simple answer is that God gave us free will. That means we as humans can use that free will to do harm or to do good. We just can't _blame_ God for our actions because we have autonomy.

    • @elysian8823
      @elysian8823 3 года назад +3

      righty

    • @Dina-vy7we
      @Dina-vy7we 3 года назад +60

      @@Hello-qf3fd exactly

  • @sirTina
    @sirTina 3 года назад +30186

    Ciara was just like “homosexuality is a sin” and then Curt was like “so anyways my husband and I” I’m dead asf 😭😂
    Edit: I do not indorse any kind of homophobia or discrimination of the LGBTQ+ community. Keep your hateful comments to yourself.

  • @elijahdaves1305
    @elijahdaves1305 Год назад +4873

    "If we take the Bible literally, everyone in this room is sinning." Um...yes. That's literally the whole point.

  • @alicethemadrabbit1842
    @alicethemadrabbit1842 3 года назад +10502

    "Oh, he's gay... What a twist!"
    "Oh, she's gay... What a twist!"
    "Oh, he's gay too?? What a twist!"

    • @Melissa-gh6wg
      @Melissa-gh6wg 3 года назад +457

      LMFAO FACTS

    • @ChonosTack
      @ChonosTack 3 года назад +2693

      The black conservative gay guy is interesting, but also really sad.

    • @DeSeannMaye
      @DeSeannMaye 3 года назад +1037

      ChonosTack yeah it’s another way of how religion kind of blackmails you as in either you live in a box your whole life or you go to hell. That sounds like blackmail to me

    • @unda2147
      @unda2147 3 года назад +97

      Spoiler alert?!?!??

    • @sharonolatunbosun7098
      @sharonolatunbosun7098 3 года назад +21

      @@DeSeannMaye true

  • @rashidalhassoun8368
    @rashidalhassoun8368 3 года назад +17244

    this is probably the only channel on youtube where sensitive topics like this can be discussed without world war three happening

    • @ihavenousername6340
      @ihavenousername6340 3 года назад +594

      The comments may have to disagree with that World war three part

    • @lovernotafighter6942
      @lovernotafighter6942 3 года назад +377

      true but then the comment section can get messy.

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 3 года назад +59

      You forgot to read the comment buddy?

    • @kelz4965
      @kelz4965 3 года назад +122

      Except the vegan and flat earthers
      Then yes

    • @myaschultheis3004
      @myaschultheis3004 3 года назад +3

      agreed 😂

  • @buttercruffie
    @buttercruffie 3 года назад +15407

    im not religious but im kinda lowkey impressed at how they can memorize and just reference random verses

    • @Godzilladad
      @Godzilladad 3 года назад +1073

      You would too, if you read the Bible every day

    • @hannah.liu.04
      @hannah.liu.04 3 года назад +377

      @Kaleela Edwards john 3:16 be like

    • @yes2542
      @yes2542 3 года назад +684

      It’s a lot easier than it seems. Especially when the same verses are preached week after week

    • @berkozkan3922
      @berkozkan3922 3 года назад +140

      Just looks like someone wasting precious time bruh

    • @mooominpapa
      @mooominpapa 3 года назад +164

      @@Godzilladad I've read my own holy book several times from a young age, I cannot recite verses 😭 Btw I've never stopped reading it, I read like three or so pages every day of the working week (so not weekends) I've been doing this since I was 12

  • @soy.ingrid
    @soy.ingrid Год назад +2090

    “That’s a lot of self-control” the fruit of the Spirit is self-control 😂

    • @taonanosihlez5268
      @taonanosihlez5268 Год назад +68

      thats what i thought as well😂, like we are meant to bear the fruits of the Spirit

    • @kadianedobor1715
      @kadianedobor1715 11 месяцев назад +16

      Nothing wrong with complimenting that in a brethren.

    • @Drowning_Girl
      @Drowning_Girl 10 месяцев назад +8

      Excellent observation.

    • @len-1768
      @len-1768 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@taonanosihlez5268*fruit. If it's fruits, we'll end up cherry-picking which traits to have and which ones to reject. We need all nine traits together.

    • @MargaretCutt-um8iq
      @MargaretCutt-um8iq 6 месяцев назад +12

      exactly, and part of being Christian is being able to live beyond self. We fail but must strive to do better.

  • @kaitllynmcnerney8364
    @kaitllynmcnerney8364 3 года назад +5553

    “People in the church hurt you, not God.”

    • @sxmone2018
      @sxmone2018 3 года назад +81

      God made those people that hurt you

    • @glodimvovi2345
      @glodimvovi2345 3 года назад +586

      @@sxmone2018 he didn’t make them hurt anyone people have free will they chose to hurt

    • @jasminemurillo903
      @jasminemurillo903 3 года назад +25

      Saucy Buckets32 god made those people have the free will to choose so yes god made those people hurt you.

    • @glodimvovi2345
      @glodimvovi2345 3 года назад +236

      @@jasminemurillo903 he didn’t make them to hurt, he made people and gave them the option to choose. If they choose to hurt, they chose to hurt, if they choose to do good they chose to do good

    • @Freaky_Productions
      @Freaky_Productions 3 года назад +42

      @@sxmone2018 more like satan

  • @rodelremolana1155
    @rodelremolana1155 3 года назад +3815

    I can imagine them taking a shower, regretting about the arguments they could have said

    • @nataly4426
      @nataly4426 3 года назад +42

      THISSS!

    • @erenjaeger1738
      @erenjaeger1738 3 года назад +17

      @@nataly4426 ur pfp say it all. "PERIOD"

    • @manualLaborer
      @manualLaborer 3 года назад +24

      or maybe they brought a mic to drop, but didn't say anything cool enough

    • @HiHello-cw9vc
      @HiHello-cw9vc 3 года назад +3

      IKRR

    • @nataly4426
      @nataly4426 3 года назад +2

      @@erenjaeger1738 PURRR LMFAOAO

  • @nick-andrewvath5045
    @nick-andrewvath5045 3 года назад +14984

    They pull out Bible verses like it's a rap battle

  • @Kevin-e6n6i
    @Kevin-e6n6i Год назад +421

    It’s crazy how true the Bible is when it says ‘Many will come to me and say “Lord, Lord, did we not cast out demons in your name?’ And I will say ‘Depart from me, you evil doers”. It’s sad 😞 but it’s true.

    • @jonathananderson699
      @jonathananderson699 10 месяцев назад

      Just proving that this book is filled with lies because it wants people to constantly never know where they stand and to live in fear

    • @jorgealbertobruno10
      @jorgealbertobruno10 7 месяцев назад +10

      I was thinking about the same verse towards the end of this video.

    • @drfenderfunk
      @drfenderfunk 5 месяцев назад

      …Like the people who care more about supporting and glorifying an unrepentant, adulterous criminal and bullying liberals than they do following Christ and His teachings. They will be held accountable just as much as you (likely, going off your statement) think progressives will.

  • @stefano215
    @stefano215 Год назад +6193

    They were trading bible verses like it’s a rap battle 😩

    • @prodby.kansha
      @prodby.kansha Год назад +35

      🤣

    • @inactivetiffany3772
      @inactivetiffany3772 Год назад +80

      Bars 😂

    • @eaglementality1204
      @eaglementality1204 Год назад

      So I watched the one with conservative/liberal Muslims….
      Comment section:
      I love how he knows the Quran and is able to recite it . Wish I knew (and could quote) the Bible the same
      Christians do the same:
      Oh, you’re weaponizing the scriptures against people and using them like rap battles

    • @caligurl8770
      @caligurl8770 Год назад +17

      Yeah 😅

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Год назад +47

      they need to do a hamilton musical of this

  • @gracienorris7775
    @gracienorris7775 3 года назад +5021

    “it was the people who hurt you in the church not God” wow that really hit me

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 3 года назад +71

      The people are the only ones there, so... Who did you expect?

    • @carsonbrooks1326
      @carsonbrooks1326 3 года назад +25

      @@xadielplasencia3674 ok man, if people want to believe that way, let them

    • @saigie3908
      @saigie3908 3 года назад +252

      I loved that quote. Ppl need to stop holding God to a human standard

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 3 года назад +6

      @@carsonbrooks1326 I agree, till that starts affecting me.

    • @carsonbrooks1326
      @carsonbrooks1326 3 года назад +23

      @@xadielplasencia3674 the second it affected you was when you clicked on this video and the moment you started typing in the comments.

  • @richardlew3667
    @richardlew3667 3 года назад +9121

    To my fellow Americans. God is not a Republican nor is He a Democrat because He is not an American!

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 3 года назад +85

      It's depressing to see you struggle with the two party system over 70 years after approving Fashisem retardend pluralistic more representative systems and having security reports on them.

    • @declangorman4290
      @declangorman4290 3 года назад +273

      idk about god but Jesus was definitely a socialist, if not a communist

    • @independent_bully_maguire9320
      @independent_bully_maguire9320 3 года назад +1

      yep.

    • @independent_bully_maguire9320
      @independent_bully_maguire9320 3 года назад +47

      @@declangorman4290 nope he would probably be Libertarian.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 3 года назад +42

      @@independent_bully_maguire9320 the whole "follow the law (of the land, temple and being subservient)" parts do not fit that.
      Not to mention the "give and your will receive".

  • @wham1984
    @wham1984 Год назад +1727

    I’m so glad Angel and Jason are standing firm and speaking truth! Excited to meet them one day

  • @Marilynefc
    @Marilynefc 3 года назад +3622

    “The people in the church hurt me. God did not hurt me” 🥺❤️

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 года назад +82

      The only way to stop a bad guy with a god is a good guy with a god.

    • @DanLuxe
      @DanLuxe 3 года назад +87

      Atheist here.
      Same. That got me.

    • @elijahtrent21
      @elijahtrent21 3 года назад +13

      Praise God

    • @wiswc
      @wiswc 3 года назад +5

      Can we ban emojis already?!

    • @cocoajames5
      @cocoajames5 3 года назад +66

      right. i feel like people group the members of the church with God themselves and it ruins the message. that's why a lot of people that have met bad christians end up hating God and the religion itself and not the people. 😔

  • @sunnybugz
    @sunnybugz 3 года назад +18609

    "homosexuals, transgenders, and people who break the speed limit" ah yes, the htpwbtsl community

    • @joshmeadows4067
      @joshmeadows4067 3 года назад +949

      How is this not the top comment I'M DEAD hahahahaha

    • @imawesomepersonDERP
      @imawesomepersonDERP 3 года назад +166

      LMAO

    • @booorue4876
      @booorue4876 3 года назад +530

      I don't appreciate how hard this made me laugh.

    • @veronievicky
      @veronievicky 3 года назад +197

      this comment wins on so many levels XD

    • @ChicoCabra
      @ChicoCabra 3 года назад +22

      @@joshmeadows4067 Agreed

  • @ChristianRobertPeterson
    @ChristianRobertPeterson 3 года назад +5855

    These dudes spitting versus like it’s a rap battle

    • @BLJ023
      @BLJ023 3 года назад +201

      Ok!!... I'm over here like.." Oh no he didn't ", "you better say that", "finish him" lol.

    • @pjschaaf414
      @pjschaaf414 3 года назад +20

      💀

    • @pauljones6629
      @pauljones6629 3 года назад +7

      😂😂😂😂

    • @ziggystardust2435
      @ziggystardust2435 3 года назад +60

      @Luke Monsensey yes there was...? lol

    • @LeeKnowsCatss
      @LeeKnowsCatss 3 года назад +33

      Bible study is like that at my church lol

  • @lamis5348
    @lamis5348 Год назад +808

    Watching as a non American, I think half the problem is there has been a mixture with faith and politics.

    • @N3CR0_C0RP0
      @N3CR0_C0RP0 10 месяцев назад +32

      Watching this as a Catholic is a very different experience

    • @ranYRMOM
      @ranYRMOM 9 месяцев назад +3

      so true

    • @jessebartunek3195
      @jessebartunek3195 6 месяцев назад +8

      Wow, as an American Protestant that is converting to Catholicism I see this so different now than I would have a few years ago.

    • @drfenderfunk
      @drfenderfunk 5 месяцев назад +1

      Which continent are you from? I'm asking out of curiosity, because Europeans, Africans, South Americans, and Asians would all take very different things from this I presume.

    • @SamwiseKimchee
      @SamwiseKimchee 5 месяцев назад

      Why do you see this differently as a Catholic? ​@@N3CR0_C0RP0

  • @ashleycouch9084
    @ashleycouch9084 3 года назад +8276

    “God did not hurt me, it was the people in the church who hurt me”. Love this so much

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 3 года назад +183

      I’m sorry that you love that statement. It’s very sad that that happened to you. The church is meant to be encouraging and comforting to its members, so I question whether or not the church you went to is built on Christ.

    • @c.l.4883
      @c.l.4883 3 года назад +127

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 many are actually not and that’s a tough pill to swallow for many.

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 3 года назад +74

      @@c.l.4883 I agree. But know that they do not represent what Christianity is supposed to be

    • @c.l.4883
      @c.l.4883 3 года назад +16

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 indeed

    • @lynnryan3727
      @lynnryan3727 3 года назад +69

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 the church hurts a lot of people sadly, and while I resonated with that statement, personally I came to that realization too late.
      They hurt me in such a deep and personal way that i don't think I'll ever feel comfortable associating myself with anything that has an Abrahamic label. And there are more and more people every day who come to that conclusion. It sucks, but i feel more at peace with myself today without Christianity than i ever did with it, and i will never give that up for what's equivalent to an abusive family again.

  • @imalwayspanicking
    @imalwayspanicking 3 года назад +2033

    “People in the church hurt you, not God.” THAT. I love that.

    • @kovanashae1762
      @kovanashae1762 3 года назад +35

      They use god to hurt you so I see where they’re coming from as a Christian.

    • @Eddie-oy6hv
      @Eddie-oy6hv 3 года назад +12

      AMennnn!!!!💛💛💛💛

    • @tinybubs6145
      @tinybubs6145 3 года назад +13

      Curt is my new favorite person

    • @charl7346
      @charl7346 3 года назад +35

      @@kovanashae1762 You know who else was hurt by religious people? Jesus. He was killed by them. He didn't blame God for the things men did to him.

    • @KenWBO
      @KenWBO 3 года назад +11

      Now that I think about it. That’s a key point many people don’t seem to realize...

  • @Munenejr
    @Munenejr 3 года назад +8978

    I’m Christian, been most of my life. The real question is how do people memorize verses so well. Do they just walk around reciting them ?

    • @reichan8363
      @reichan8363 3 года назад +409

      Could be. You can also do it if you choose to memorize them.

    • @adreannasears994
      @adreannasears994 3 года назад +428

      I just read them over and over and pray about memorization.

    • @adreannasears994
      @adreannasears994 3 года назад +159

      @@n.g.l. reciting yes, but it does take personal disciple to actually memorize them. I have a difficult time reciting if I haven’t made any effort to memorize

    • @GR-dw9nm
      @GR-dw9nm 3 года назад +11

      @@reichan8363 When you want to force an agenda you tend to vomit the same nonsense over and over.

    • @Ransom747
      @Ransom747 3 года назад +54

      Ikr!!! I think it would be really cool to know verses like that. Knowing what verse to say at what moment would be really cool.

  • @DJ_Orangutan
    @DJ_Orangutan Год назад +1074

    Angel and Jason being the only ones able to quote scripture says everything.

    • @Ni-wl9uh
      @Ni-wl9uh 11 месяцев назад +16

      What about the mysoginystic verses in the bible?

    • @obedmartinez5825
      @obedmartinez5825 11 месяцев назад +2

      💯💯💯

    • @Djr127
      @Djr127 11 месяцев назад +52

      @@Ni-wl9uhwhich ones?

    • @pythondrink
      @pythondrink 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Djr127hang on

    • @GottesgrosszuegigeGnade
      @GottesgrosszuegigeGnade 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​​@@pythondrink ​@Ni-wl9uh when are they coming? There are non

  • @anastasiareid3333
    @anastasiareid3333 3 года назад +4141

    As a black student who attends private school, I would love to see black private school kids vs. black public school students, I think that would be interesting and a great experience

    • @ericanation2458
      @ericanation2458 3 года назад +56

      Love this idea!!

    • @anastasiareid3333
      @anastasiareid3333 3 года назад +6

      @@ericanation2458 thank youuuu+

    • @kemidada6371
      @kemidada6371 3 года назад +134

      YESS!! Or African Americans versus people who grew up in Africa

    • @Dude-dx5ns
      @Dude-dx5ns 3 года назад +2

      @Tiarra How??

    • @goggle2233
      @goggle2233 3 года назад +34

      @@Dude-dx5ns both side look down each other a lot so it may be hard but I do want to see it

  • @fishels3895
    @fishels3895 3 года назад +17409

    Do conservative atheists vs liberal Christians lol

    • @theglutton1815
      @theglutton1815 3 года назад +172

      I’ve meet those lol

    • @hazel6323
      @hazel6323 3 года назад +1034

      I would pay so much to see that.

    • @chriscraig6353
      @chriscraig6353 3 года назад +534

      Wait no cus that would be so crazy but yes let's do it

    • @dariusd2003
      @dariusd2003 3 года назад +551

      Wow that's an interesting dynamic. I'd be curious what each camp believes and how they defend their viewpoints.

    • @brandontrammel4581
      @brandontrammel4581 3 года назад +63

      I'm liberal Christian or progressive

  • @myaruth6010
    @myaruth6010 3 года назад +4779

    “People in the church hurt you, not God” is the best line because people don’t realize this and it hurts them more than anything.
    Edit: I said this because I know people who questioned their faith because of how the people of the church acted towards them and others.

    • @yaelfox2906
      @yaelfox2906 3 года назад +25

      I got chills

    • @blackarchon8778
      @blackarchon8778 3 года назад +50

      Thats why you should leave the church.

    • @TornadoeJoe
      @TornadoeJoe 3 года назад +90

      @@blackarchon8778 That's the furthest thing from the truth.

    • @Lebronwski
      @Lebronwski 3 года назад +26

      @@frogpoop397 you shouldn’t leave because of the ppl. You should leave if the doctrines false or hateful

    • @evas1463
      @evas1463 3 года назад +22

      Very true!! Religion is mostly about finding hope in someone greater than us and having a community but people seem to forget that, which is why we have those religious wars and people baptizing others and tearing them down, just because they want their religion to justify their own racism/homophobia or hate in general, when it really doesn't!!

  • @Miyykael
    @Miyykael 11 месяцев назад +393

    Omg that line "I have desires and Inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord!" That sent me what a line

    • @j.keshie
      @j.keshie 5 месяцев назад +5

      Such a great way to put it

    • @corylcain
      @corylcain 5 месяцев назад +7

      Didn't answer the question. Suppression isn't the same

    • @kuroro8435
      @kuroro8435 3 месяца назад +6

      lol, he was simply trying to dodge the question.

  • @acidmizer
    @acidmizer 3 года назад +7958

    as a non-religious person, this was rather interesting.

    • @nicholasgee9127
      @nicholasgee9127 3 года назад +37

      It is misleading.

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 года назад +96

      It's just American protestants fighting over what does it mean to be protestant

    • @natesalinas3736
      @natesalinas3736 3 года назад +317

      @@vincenzorutigliano5435 Progressive Christianity is like a Doctor telling you that you can drink a 2 liter of Soda a day, and you will still be Healthy. Because it makes you feel good. Oh but make sure you get your carrots in too.

    • @jackryan7357
      @jackryan7357 3 года назад +1

      same ol

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 года назад +35

      @@natesalinas3736 Protestantism is the first step down to atheism.

  • @carloshinojosa9824
    @carloshinojosa9824 3 года назад +2159

    idk how these people remember verses lol. All I learned in Catholic School: God is good all the time; all the time, God is good.

    • @hzlkelly
      @hzlkelly 3 года назад +60

      Because you don't read the Bible for yourself.

    • @skappy8307
      @skappy8307 3 года назад +27

      samee cuz i don’t have time to memorize the Bible i would rather do something productive

    • @lotus8650
      @lotus8650 3 года назад +57

      a lot of people “know” verses only to argue their point.

    • @arrow2589
      @arrow2589 3 года назад +19

      It starts when you're a kid and years and years of brainwashing later it's pretty well indoctrinated

    • @carloshinojosa9824
      @carloshinojosa9824 3 года назад +1

      @@skappy8307 lol, like breathing

  • @ariellaccorrea
    @ariellaccorrea 3 года назад +4641

    i wish this was longer episode bc these topics never get discussed like thissss

    • @ariellak5088
      @ariellak5088 3 года назад +10

      someone with the same name as me?!

    • @maryg9818
      @maryg9818 3 года назад +69

      I know right? as a conservative Christian I don't see this kind of good discussion often

    • @Vic-hc4rr
      @Vic-hc4rr 3 года назад +25

      @@maryg9818 Exactly!! You can't find this stuff anywhere anymore

    • @skeleton5459
      @skeleton5459 3 года назад +47

      same!! i love the way they are discussing things properly. i've never seen an episode where the people discuss things like this.

    • @LeahMarieyt
      @LeahMarieyt 3 года назад +17

      Part 2!!

  • @arcyknows
    @arcyknows 11 месяцев назад +1102

    “You already have an agenda & your trying to fit the Bible into that agenda instead of accepting the Gospel for what it is.” Perfectly said.

    • @sallygirl1012
      @sallygirl1012 10 месяцев назад +28

      My agenda came after I started reading the Bible. How can you follow something that contradicts itself consistently. The Bible is full of human sin.

    • @cetsy2023
      @cetsy2023 10 месяцев назад +3

      How?

    • @w4rsh1p
      @w4rsh1p 9 месяцев назад +10

      And what it is is a hateful violent disturbing book that we know cannot be true.

    • @christopherpearson2116
      @christopherpearson2116 9 месяцев назад

      Well, it endorses (for life, too) slavery, for one...
      Also, captive brides... in several cases.
      And as for how... censuses... are handled: In 2 Samuel 24...? Odd. Macabre.@@cetsy2023

    • @MCKingM4RTIN
      @MCKingM4RTIN 8 месяцев назад +34

      @@sallygirl1012there are no contradictions

  • @nidamerchant1935
    @nidamerchant1935 3 года назад +2332

    progressive vs conservative muslims would be such a good topic

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator 3 года назад +103

      Sunnis vs Shia muslims would be very interesting to see tbh

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 года назад +92

      nope. Conservative Muslims stand by what they believe in regardless. You cannot sway their opinions nor can you have a simple conversation about differing views. That's MY experience being born Muslim and no longer identifying with Islam in my community. The majority of conservative Muslims believe they are one hundred percent correct in every idea that they have been taught and even discussing different ideas/views is regarded as sinful. Not much of a discussion would ever happen (in my opinion).

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 года назад +15

      @@zhcultivator I highly doubt it would be civil though.

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator 3 года назад +11

      @@danabarakat1816 Ok I would still like to see it though regardless lol

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 года назад +27

      @@zhcultivator I mean, it would most likely be a lot of bickering, yelling, and arguing and people constantly interrupting one another... just what I picture, lol. I mean in my Muslim community people get in actual fights about religion and it's just so unhealthy, but if that's what you want to watch... lol.

  • @hellriser__
    @hellriser__ 3 года назад +2446

    LMAO ciara saying "i can't say you're going to hell because i don't know your relationship with god" compared to the other conservative dude who straight said "no offense you're going to hell"

    • @drhemaword
      @drhemaword 3 года назад +61

      And he is if he's living in sin....... Duhhhhhhh

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 3 года назад +54

      It’s easy to determine if someone’s heading to hell by their doctrine

    • @TheWeekndsFan
      @TheWeekndsFan 3 года назад +1

      @@drhemaword Wdym Yes living in sin?

    • @panacea26947
      @panacea26947 3 года назад +86

      You can't be progressive and christian at the same time lmao

    • @user-gh5hu8mh2q
      @user-gh5hu8mh2q 3 года назад +6

      @@panacea26947 YES!

  • @someonee5084
    @someonee5084 3 года назад +8315

    Her saying being gay is a sin and him immediately afterwards saying he's gay is weirly hilarious and sad.

    • @weirdlanguageguy
      @weirdlanguageguy 3 года назад +531

      having gay tendancies, or tendancies towards anything believed to be wrong, isnt a sin. Engaging in those things are

    • @kamusta3446
      @kamusta3446 3 года назад +733

      @@weirdlanguageguy So your saying Heterosexuals can marry, adopt kids, make love. while Homosexuals just stand there like a statue?
      What the actual hell is wrong with your brain?

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 3 года назад +340

      @@kamusta3446 So when I have an impulse to drink, it is a natural impulse but to act on it and get drunk is a sin. So the life of a christian, muslim, jew is also about trying to control your impulses.

    • @kamusta3446
      @kamusta3446 3 года назад +308

      @@jadenphilander8799 So your saying not to treat LGBT people as equal?
      what is also wrong with your brain?

    • @dalsegno7001
      @dalsegno7001 3 года назад +148

      @@kamusta3446 oof, that struck your nerve didn’t it? 💀💀

  • @TheJayKellz
    @TheJayKellz Год назад +88

    To be honest this conversation could have been alot longer with more biblical context underlining each major discourse

  • @ElmoTinker
    @ElmoTinker 3 года назад +1988

    I appreciated the texts referenced from scripture being displayed

  • @EpicBURN321
    @EpicBURN321 3 года назад +5004

    Would be interesting to see Liberal Muslims vs Conservative Muslims

    • @Kyrgyz420
      @Kyrgyz420 3 года назад +476

      It would be the biggest fight ever

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 года назад +17

      Truee..

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 года назад +26

      Yeah! Many of them. It depends upon their respective countries I may say.

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 года назад +61

      Like muslims in developed countries are chill.. uae for example. And muslims from multicultural countries like India are most likely liberals

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 года назад +22

      That's true... Moreover social media tends to polarise everyone's views.. so a conservative continues to be conservative and a liberal will have his feed filled with posts in favour of his own ideology. It's important for one to have a friend circle of various cultures and religions.

  • @fd6864
    @fd6864 3 года назад +4943

    "homosexuals, transgenders, people who break the speed limit..." when i tell you i screamed aloud

  • @Pollyanna4123
    @Pollyanna4123 Год назад +367

    This was the most calm and respectful middle ground I’ve watched😂

  • @gilliandoplemore9357
    @gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад +1585

    This is not Liberal Christians vs. Republican Christians, it is Progressive Christians vs. Conservative Christians. There is a difference that does not relate directly to politics.

    • @christophermorillo369
      @christophermorillo369 3 года назад +43

      i mean it does relate directly to politics which is why they talk about various policy (abortion, marriage) and why 2/3 conservative Christians and 0/3 progressive Christians said republicans were more Christ-like.

    • @walker7155
      @walker7155 3 года назад +16

      how does this not relate to politics when all they talk about is politics?

    • @gilliandoplemore9357
      @gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад +28

      @@christophermorillo369 Maybe in the context of this video, but in general it’s bigger than politics. There’s a different that goes beyond parties.

    • @gilliandoplemore9357
      @gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад +5

      @@walker7155 maybe in the context of this video, but overall, there is more to it.

    • @walker7155
      @walker7155 3 года назад

      @@gilliandoplemore9357 maybe they don’t talk about issues you feel they should talk about, but the video is based on their individual association with either republican, or libertarian.

  • @katiebells8024
    @katiebells8024 3 года назад +6274

    The girl made a really good point about divorce vs homosexuality that no one countered.

    • @greenergrass4060
      @greenergrass4060 3 года назад +355

      Yeah, youre right. I think because Divorce is a "one-time" sin. Whilst homosexual relations last Long-term , and therefore become "lifestyles".

    • @amartinez589
      @amartinez589 3 года назад +563

      @katiebells the Bible explicitly states that God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. If someone was divorced prior to becoming a Christian they are not going to be excluded from service. If someone was practicing homosexuality prior to becoming Christian they should not be excluded either. But no one can claim to be a Christian and also practice homosexuality. They also cannot claim to be Christian and desire divorce.

    • @greenergrass4060
      @greenergrass4060 3 года назад +8

      @@amartinez589 what are your thoughts on Annulment? Or legal, state-appointed marriage?

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 3 года назад +36

      Most no fault divorces would be a sin in Gods eyes. But I guess it was Eve that ate the apple and women do initiate 85% of divorce and feminists were the ones that fought for no fault divorce so its no surprise

    • @jermerygrug3090
      @jermerygrug3090 3 года назад +5

      @@greenergrass4060 I was just about to say this good onya mate

  • @E.j-
    @E.j- Год назад +378

    Yall need to put Cliff Knetchle in one of these😂

  • @camilledeadwiler7266
    @camilledeadwiler7266 3 года назад +1665

    I find it weird that the question asked “Would Jesus protest” and people explained why they didn’t protest... the question didn’t ask what y’all would or did do

    • @SailorAnthy
      @SailorAnthy 3 года назад +50

      Thank You! I came to the comments looking for this

    • @_chade
      @_chade 3 года назад +93

      You bring up a very good point, which essentially is the basis of religion: ONE’S own beliefs and interpretations that are then put on Jesus.

    • @nikolatheme5572
      @nikolatheme5572 3 года назад +27

      Ikr, personaly I don't believe in god but if I did I would want to believe that he would. Because I would only want to believe in kind God that wants to help people.

    • @enigmatic9118
      @enigmatic9118 3 года назад +28

      Mind you, I'm not a christian, but I was born and raised one. Their responses to that question seem based on the fact they view Jesus as within them, and that Jesus is many things. If they did not participate, then Jesus would not participate, but they also explained why.
      Once again, I do not hold these beliefs, but I do want to help explain where they are coming from.

    • @my_cousin_mose9782
      @my_cousin_mose9782 3 года назад +6

      I thought it was odd too. I bet that was all edited out. I could be wrong but it seems more likely than them skirting around the question like that.

  • @SmartistaBeauty
    @SmartistaBeauty 3 года назад +33875

    I read the title and said oooo this finna be a tussle

  • @uddin2166
    @uddin2166 3 года назад +3718

    I would love to see
    “Liberal Muslims vs Conservative Muslims”.
    👍🏼 if you agree

    • @homosexualitymydearwatson4109
      @homosexualitymydearwatson4109 3 года назад +80

      I’d also love to see this with Jewish people. But as a non religious Christian I’d like to see perspectives from Muslims about different things! That could be really cool to see

    • @m.nikkie946
      @m.nikkie946 3 года назад +4

      This would be good

    • @shooomla2916
      @shooomla2916 3 года назад +8

      yes yes yes as a muslim i'd love to see this

    • @aiubimart609
      @aiubimart609 3 года назад +28

      I think shia vs sunni muslim is interesting. because shia is a sect, and it is prohibited in islam.

    • @jxslayz6663
      @jxslayz6663 3 года назад +18

      LOL you know damn well it will all be liberal. Just really liberal and less liberal.

  • @lukefantini9770
    @lukefantini9770 7 месяцев назад +20

    Angel is an absolute LION of the Lord. So inspiring to see his resolve, I hope he continues and praying for his success.

  • @doctor1alex
    @doctor1alex 3 года назад +1168

    Christians should never be defined by by politics but should definitely care about politics.

    • @crt1978
      @crt1978 3 года назад +5

      Good point

    • @eliesh3833
      @eliesh3833 3 года назад +32

      Agreed. There's nothing wrong with having political beliefs whilst being a person of faith, as long as those two things remain separate.

    • @DudeImWayBetter
      @DudeImWayBetter 3 года назад +18

      @@eliesh3833 Completely disagree if you are to have political opinions they should come from a kingdom / Bible perspective. Not a worldly one.

    • @eliesh3833
      @eliesh3833 3 года назад +13

      @@DudeImWayBetter What does that even mean? Politics themselves are a worldly thing. That's why faith should be separate from political belief. If you base your faith entirely on politics, then it seems like you're believing in God for the wrong reasons.
      There's actually a verse that may support this.
      *Mark 12:17* "Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him."
      You may advocate whatever political beliefs that you want to, as long as your faith in God does not become intertwined with these things.
      Your spiritual faith should not be placed in people or material things, only in God.
      And if anything, I feel that being politically unbiased whilst supporting aspects of both sides is more Christ-like then just being one or the other. Both sides hold biblical values just as they both hold values that are unbiblical.
      Frankly, I don't think either political side is the "biblical" one. They're both just political ideologies that conflict one other in a myriad of ways.

    • @DudeImWayBetter
      @DudeImWayBetter 3 года назад +9

      @@eliesh3833 nothing should be seperate from the kingdom / faith. If you have a belief that isn't first filtered through the Bible than what's the point of the Bible / your faith in the first place.

  • @Jojo_Ojo_14
    @Jojo_Ojo_14 3 года назад +827

    Angel said “as Americans, you all have rights” after Olivia said she wasn’t American.

    • @eriley7809
      @eriley7809 3 года назад +49

      I noticed that too. I really hope it was editing or he just didn’t think of how that sounded.

    • @lerulara
      @lerulara 3 года назад +27

      I think he forgot, after she said it I forgot as well until you mentioned it, I mean she just seems like such a sweet girl and with the way she speaks she doesn't sound like from another country.

    • @floritahhh
      @floritahhh 3 года назад +11

      OMG TRUE like why would he even say "as Americans" are other nationalities....not included...?

    • @Wintermute01001
      @Wintermute01001 3 года назад +16

      There's a really weird conflation with Christianity and American nationalism among conservative Americans.

    • @beigemeoli7016
      @beigemeoli7016 3 года назад +5

      I don’t think he meant it against her I think he is leaning towards people who live in America weather you were born in a different country or not yk? Cuz I see anyone who lives in America as American

  • @creamymarshmxllow2830
    @creamymarshmxllow2830 3 года назад +3894

    I don’t want to be nice to others to avoid going to hell. I want to be nice to others because I genuinely want to be a decent human being.

    • @honey-fo6ro
      @honey-fo6ro 3 года назад +305

      Jesus wasn’t nice because He didn’t want to go to hell. He was nice because He was, indeed, genuinely a nice person who never did anything wrong to anybody. In fact, His kindness was just the tip of the iceberg. He was and is SO much more than that, so having faith is about so much more than just being nice.

    • @yeehaw24
      @yeehaw24 3 года назад +162

      You missed the point.... we can’t go to heaven just because we force ourselves to be nice. You have to genuinely want to do it. I didn’t help kids in 6th grade with suicide and cutting themselves to make me look good and take me to Heaven. I did it because I wanted them to go to Heaven. You missed something.

    • @roguedaskill
      @roguedaskill 3 года назад +17

      Sounds like you're a Christian then.

    • @shomshomni2314
      @shomshomni2314 3 года назад +75

      But here's the thing it is not our works that lead us to heaven, it is our faith in Jesus Christ. Christians just do the works because God is working through us but Jesus has already done the work and paid for us to be a part of His family with His blood. We are saved by grace not by works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8

    • @Miriam-xd6wp
      @Miriam-xd6wp 3 года назад +8

      @@yeehaw24 people suffering from self harm will still go to heaven

  • @EdwardDanilyuk
    @EdwardDanilyuk 2 месяца назад +12

    Her discounting the word because Paul was the author is exactly the problem. Wait until she finds out almost 25% of the New Testament is written by Paul.

  • @Honeycoupe
    @Honeycoupe Год назад +3346

    "Born again Christians vs Ex-Christians" would be a great episode.

  • @EMBEEAY
    @EMBEEAY 3 года назад +2424

    There’s one thing that everyone should know about Christianity above all: any person who claims to follow the lord but is hateful and uses the word to excuse his hate is NOT practicing Christianity. The Bible actually *warns* you of these types many, many, times. Period.

    • @nicholasgee9127
      @nicholasgee9127 3 года назад +176

      Telling the truth is not hate, you know Jesus was hated and warned his followers that the world will hate them too.

    • @RyanHarperMA
      @RyanHarperMA 3 года назад +52

      @@nicholasgee9127 Telling the truth? Whose truth? Hate is hate. Bigotry is hate. God of the Bible is hate.

    • @adriana12995
      @adriana12995 3 года назад +128

      @@RyanHarperMA Satan is very happy with your comment

    • @Musickt196
      @Musickt196 3 года назад +86

      @@nicholasgee9127 Jesus was talking about people who are genuinely persecuted for their religion, such as the Christians being murdered in the Middle East simply for being Christian. He wasn't talking about those who are assholes to everyone and use the Bible to justify their anger and hatred. And this is coming from a religious person.

    • @Musickt196
      @Musickt196 3 года назад +31

      @@nicholasgee9127 you obviously have never met a hateful religious person. I have a horrible one in my life right now, it is actually because of this person that I am struggling with my faith. I never understood toxic religion until I actually met one.

  • @RoninDurey
    @RoninDurey 3 года назад +3481

    when the conservative told everyone he was lowkey gay OOP... THIS EPISODE IS CRAZYYYYYYY

    • @alexcarlton4172
      @alexcarlton4172 3 года назад +547

      He's totally closeted, the deniers are usually gay ooh LMAOO

    • @woah7066
      @woah7066 3 года назад +182

      I deadass lost it

    • @roberthernandez5334
      @roberthernandez5334 3 года назад +328

      Lmaoooo, I knew it too, I was like, homie is gay, I’m so sad for him

    • @ebonyy5248
      @ebonyy5248 3 года назад +38

      @@roberthernandez5334 why are u sad for him?

    • @MsAqaqSwsw
      @MsAqaqSwsw 3 года назад +203

      I’m a same-sex attracted to Christian and I found deliverance and freedom and joy and peace that everyone searches for through Jesus. It’s very so possible that he will be just fine if he keeps his faith in God. 🤗

  • @bvumazonke
    @bvumazonke Год назад +221

    Jason and Angel ATE

    • @khunli7
      @khunli7 Год назад +14

      PERIOD, THEY SECURED THE BAGGG

    • @TZ19999
      @TZ19999 6 месяцев назад +2

      Lmao no. Seek help.

    • @IbelieveinGod483
      @IbelieveinGod483 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@TZ19999We found our help. You haven't.

    • @budgereeshcmudgeree5364
      @budgereeshcmudgeree5364 3 месяца назад +1

      The amount of people commenting this is insaneeee like are u okay? Are u genuinely ok?

    • @w1ld.4t.h3art
      @w1ld.4t.h3art 2 месяца назад +1

      ate what exactly'? except from hate obv

  • @mariayustitia4598
    @mariayustitia4598 3 года назад +3697

    respect to these people for not shouting at each other's faces when they're discussing...
    especially the blonde woman, wise behaviour at its finest.

    • @shawnadavis1130
      @shawnadavis1130 3 года назад +61

      Christianity at its finest...

    • @rockfacts3235
      @rockfacts3235 3 года назад +61

      Brenda is amazing!

    • @teaguecogdill1473
      @teaguecogdill1473 3 года назад +37

      Brenda is a class act.

    • @samantha-lx8nh
      @samantha-lx8nh 3 года назад +22

      nah i feel like brenda was too judgemental

    • @urmom44751
      @urmom44751 3 года назад +29

      we stan Brenda, if that was me i would've been yelling within the first 10 minutes lol

  • @FrancisDomingoJr
    @FrancisDomingoJr 3 года назад +2640

    Anyone else craving for more topics to be discussed with liberal and conservative Christians? This was so good and very insightful!

    • @tpawesomeness2526
      @tpawesomeness2526 3 года назад +22

      Yes, I do fear the concepts that the "Liberals" brought up. I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to know that all scripture is good for teaching and applying. Who is to say that Paul was not speaking God's word but a well-known prophet like Elijah wasn't. This narrative gives others looking to explore Christianity as a whole further doubt into the validity of the bible. Jesus talked about keeping His children out of the kingdom of heaven, and His punishment for those people is going to be quite unpleasant. See Luke 17:2

    • @TheJacobiedwards
      @TheJacobiedwards 3 года назад +29

      @@tpawesomeness2526 being a Christian is an active choice. There are so many lost texts in Christians due to the denouncement of Judaism by the Protestant/Catholic church, King James, and just overall colonialism. So in other words it’s an incomplete text. That doesn’t remove the validity but the fact that you are absorbing an incomplete text, and only including the Old Testament for personal convenience goes against the core of Christianity. It’s ideology and faith not law, so there’s room for interpretation and context.

    • @Keyumiz
      @Keyumiz 3 года назад

      Yes, definitely.

    • @profile1172
      @profile1172 3 года назад +9

      @@TheJacobiedwards What lost texts are there? You seem to fail to realize that Christians are different than Jews not from "overall colonialism" but the fact we see Jesus as God in the flesh and the Jews don't. There is a reason why KJV is used most by both Cath/Protest and by people with degrees in theology. We include the Old Testament but how does that go against core beliefs? Being Christian has laws on it. You ever heard of a thing called the 10 Commandments? There is no room for interpretation if God says sin is bad.

    • @tpawesomeness2526
      @tpawesomeness2526 3 года назад +4

      @@TheJacobiedwards I was not saying there was no room for interpretation. Rather it is good that we gather together and have meaningful discussions about God's word. I also meant that others outside the faith would question the validity(I never said they were right to do so). I simply meant if we as Christians decide that we are going to see one part of the Bible as an opinion and not the word of God then who are we to call the Bible God's holy word. We should take all scripture into account and let it divide right from wrong in our lives. This includes taking into account the words of God's servant Paul.

  • @Ian-bt8dz
    @Ian-bt8dz 3 года назад +1919

    These are conservative Christians from California, do a casting call in Kentucky and the video will be a lot more interesting.

    • @rileyanderson9896
      @rileyanderson9896 3 года назад +69

      HAHA YES. I was thinking the same thing

    • @jaedyncampbell7516
      @jaedyncampbell7516 3 года назад +219

      omg yes. the conservative christians in this video would probably be considered progressive here in kentucky

    • @therealyungjayz
      @therealyungjayz 3 года назад +47

      Anyone in the Bible Belt really

    • @TheSurrealist.
      @TheSurrealist. 3 года назад +35

      Get some Texans in there and they’d just throwing fists while getting drunk.

    • @1mortalados63
      @1mortalados63 3 года назад +4

      @@jaedyncampbell7516 Exactly

  • @chryztyn24q
    @chryztyn24q Год назад +46

    I love how free, unbiased and unafraid discussions of very sensitive topics are in Jubilee in it’s entirety not just on this video 🙏🙌🎉

  • @bingusluvr2280
    @bingusluvr2280 3 года назад +2092

    “people in the church hurt me, not god” amen

    • @galaxygalatics3255
      @galaxygalatics3255 3 года назад +5

      People will still hate you or me where ever we go online or in real life even when you or me beleave in god or not there is aways going to be hate in the world

    • @dawoodalmas2476
      @dawoodalmas2476 3 года назад +33

      Hisoka God loves you but you need to take your eyes off from Gon and Kilua

    • @bingusluvr2280
      @bingusluvr2280 3 года назад +11

      @@dawoodalmas2476 ooooooOoOH gOoOooon

    • @Unique_Monk
      @Unique_Monk 3 года назад +10

      He’s a pastor - he married a man - he is committing one almighty sin
      Stop making God fit your narratives people - how can you believe in God then change his words to suit - unbelievable hypocrisy

    • @gitBritt
      @gitBritt 3 года назад +7

      The church even hurt Christ, as in they killed him. At the time the church was the nation of Israel.

  • @fysical7643
    @fysical7643 3 года назад +735

    bro these people memorized the bible, I can't even remember what I had for dinner

    • @Eanna0228
      @Eanna0228 3 года назад +9

      Right 😭😭

    • @benborja3200
      @benborja3200 3 года назад +2

      lol

    • @alainaholycross6586
      @alainaholycross6586 3 года назад +7

      and that's being a pastor and being deticated to the Lord :D

    • @emiliezylstra6589
      @emiliezylstra6589 3 года назад

      Bruh same

    • @alainaholycross6586
      @alainaholycross6586 3 года назад +2

      @Filcher Gravesly Not a waste of time if you knew where you were goin when you die... and it ain't heaven (for now) and it ain't staying put in the ground. It breaks my heart to know there are so many (like you) people that don't and haven't come to realize what they're missing out on when they should go to the kingdom of God! :( :( bless your soul..

  • @carter9608
    @carter9608 3 года назад +1924

    angel seems like the kinda dude who would tell me that 'i can still be saved' while patting my shoulder and smiling

    • @spookyho5994
      @spookyho5994 3 года назад +20

      hahaha yes

    • @kafkaesqueangel
      @kafkaesqueangel 3 года назад +25

      i cant tell if this is for or not for angel 0-0

    • @_cherrychi_
      @_cherrychi_ 3 года назад +3

      @@kafkaesqueangel LOL

    • @Lebronwski
      @Lebronwski 3 года назад +73

      Everyone deserves hell and we all need saving

    • @pippi2285
      @pippi2285 3 года назад +28

      @@Lebronwski good thing hell doesn’t exist

  • @iem123
    @iem123 Год назад +210

    Great to see Angel and Jason being both respectful to the progressive “Christians” but also being very firm in their stance on the bible being completely true. You can’t call yourself a Christian and turn around and disregard large parts of what he’s said and they were respectful but firm about that fact

    • @yennifercortez6961
      @yennifercortez6961 Год назад +7

      Amen

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 7 месяцев назад

      Neither can the “conservative” Christians. They don’t follow Christianity to the T either so what they’re not Christian? Don’t begin w that.

  • @JJ-fi2no
    @JJ-fi2no 3 года назад +2245

    “I can’t forget what the Bible says to be more accepting of people.” But the Bible isn’t against being more accepting. Jesus literally prioritized the outcasts of society, those neglected or socially ostracized when he first came to Earth (poor, sick, disabled people, tax collectors, etc.). Jesus was criticized for his level of acceptance. If you’re going to try to spread God’s words but with discriminatory lenses and/or practices you’ll never actually accomplish what you’re trying to do and you’re actually going against what God wanted.
    Edit: Thank you for all the likes! Also, to anyone who’s had negative experiences with a church, I’m so sorry! There are Christians that genuinely try to unlearn the discrimination we were taught when we were younger and hopefully the younger generations of Christians become more progressive.

    • @kiamartin3704
      @kiamartin3704 3 года назад +111

      I agree. But he also casted out the evil that was within them before allowing them to follow him around. He did party with demons. He accepted them to heal them and love them. He didn’t accept the sin.

    • @JJ-fi2no
      @JJ-fi2no 3 года назад +125

      @@kiamartin3704 Poverty and being infected with disease aren’t sins though. And the people with disabilities he healed like those who were blind only had to believe he could actually heal them and they would be healed upon touching his robes. In other words, their faith in him was key. There was no “extra step” beyond faith. Also, forgiveness isn’t earned, it’s freely given (though again, poverty and disease aren’t sins themselves, what sin are you referring when you say he didn’t accept the sin?).

    • @kiamartin3704
      @kiamartin3704 3 года назад +37

      @@JJ-fi2no Oh? If you’re not talking about sins then you’re argument about acceptance is not the same. Also having faith in him is the first most important step, but so is listening to his word after that. After you become his child, you will listen to his teaching through the bible.

    • @cloberlobster2276
      @cloberlobster2276 3 года назад +72

      @@kiamartin3704 I can smell the discrimination, it reeks off of you.

    • @GeraldGenics
      @GeraldGenics 3 года назад +53

      Yes God talks about accepting people, but not to accept their sins that they commit. I will love every single person I come across, but it’s also my calling to warn them about the sin they are committing

  • @juliacosta5472
    @juliacosta5472 3 года назад +2676

    honestly some christians just choose the parts of the bible they want to believe. In both sides

    • @jesusislord3050
      @jesusislord3050 3 года назад +31

      They shouldn’t

    • @Ejiro__Kirishima
      @Ejiro__Kirishima 3 года назад +248

      I personally prefer the Christians that don’t explain hatespeech with the Bible.

    • @beiimnida3266
      @beiimnida3266 3 года назад +9

      True. You really need to look for the right one and thank God I did

    • @Keesha_Hardy
      @Keesha_Hardy 3 года назад +22

      @@Ejiro__Kirishima How are there hateful parts to the Bible?

    • @christianlittle4303
      @christianlittle4303 3 года назад +74

      @@Ejiro__Kirishima um no if your a Christian you listen to all parts of the Bible not just what you want to here, being a Christian and not listening to the Bible would b Heresy

  • @kashcow
    @kashcow 3 года назад +2281

    When he said “I had homosexual inclinations” when I tell u, I have never screamed “IK IT” so loud.

    • @daddylonglegs3420
      @daddylonglegs3420 3 года назад +343

      hun, with those glasses we been knew 💀

    • @norapeace6526
      @norapeace6526 3 года назад +17

      @@daddylonglegs3420 HOW???? Teach me your ways 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

    • @lilyfeist3841
      @lilyfeist3841 3 года назад +328

      Low key just want to give him a hug and tell him it’s okay to be gay...

    • @DizGaAlcam
      @DizGaAlcam 3 года назад +79

      @@norapeace6526 its called gaydar

    • @norapeace6526
      @norapeace6526 3 года назад +14

      @@DizGaAlcam I know what it’s called.. I’m trying to improve mine 😅

  • @shanereignz8662
    @shanereignz8662 Год назад +271

    Jason was on point. I thought i was progressive until i heard this conversation. I disagreed with most if not all the statements. This was insightful and thought provoking❤

    • @PreachTh3Truth
      @PreachTh3Truth Год назад +5

      Hello! I am a conservative Christian too! Two questions: how are you doing today? What points did you find yourself disagreeing with for either side?

    • @TamiTribbiani-z8p
      @TamiTribbiani-z8p Месяц назад

      Progressive Christians accept anything and everything in their church.

  • @colerolan6538
    @colerolan6538 3 года назад +2146

    Following God is not about “doing what we can to get to heaven” for we are saved by grace through faith, not works

    • @mayaday5525
      @mayaday5525 3 года назад +57

      i totally agree, this is very well said

    • @jennygump813h2
      @jennygump813h2 3 года назад +7

      Amen!!

    • @ange949
      @ange949 3 года назад +32

      That said, shouldn't the threat of hell be eliminated completely then? I mean jesus died in the bible for sins to be forgiven so the entire concept of hell should have been done away with in the new testament and then technically god doesn't believe in punishing the sinners if they're rewarded for JUST believing in him then? And is he really all powerful if he allows sin to happen? Or is the devil his accomplice in that regard? Christianity leaves no room for logical and critical thinking, just blind faith on zero evidence. Ugh

    • @bespectacledheroine7292
      @bespectacledheroine7292 3 года назад +11

      @@ange949 I agree with you that religion simply asks for too much and offers too little in return, and I’ve asked myself the “why does hell even exist?” question many times, but to be completely fair on one thing here, “allowing sin to happen” is a simplified view on how that works. What Christians believe is, God imbued everyone with free will, to make our own mistakes. This is a major reason they’re all pro God and this is one part of the religion I like. I don’t so much like how the suffering of a given sin isn’t mitigated for the benefit of the innocent and the promise of the sweet relief of the pearly gates is all the reassurance humans are meant to be afforded, but the actual system for sinning and sinners themselves does make a sort of air tight sense. Again, except the hell thing you pointed out. If damnation can be bypassed as simply as believing in Christ, it’s sort of rendered null and void isn’t it? The only reason it’d be kept around is to punish nonbelievers such as ourselves, or more accurately I guess, anyone who doesn’t accept God and Jesus and whatever else into their hearts upon their death. I can’t help but think that’s like, way harsh? But what do I know? I’m a filthy heathen.

    • @masonlecordier
      @masonlecordier 3 года назад +30

      But... literally the last chapter of the bible talks about who will make it into heaven and who won't. Revelation 22:14-15 (written after the death of Jesus)

  • @Anitatata
    @Anitatata 3 года назад +3385

    Olivia made a really good point "why are divorced people allowed to serve?" We have to hand it to her, they chose to take a vow in the house of the Lord and then choose to break it while LGBTQ+ people didn't get any choice.

    • @jahdielheywood5277
      @jahdielheywood5277 3 года назад +256

      Divorce has conditions that Jesus allowed. If the partner is unfaithful then they have broken the covenant and are no longer under the rules that bind the marriage.

    • @Anitatata
      @Anitatata 3 года назад +148

      @@jahdielheywood5277 only if your spouse cheated you but that's not usually the case

    • @jahdielheywood5277
      @jahdielheywood5277 3 года назад +46

      @@Anitatata Well i'm not American so i'm not sure why it happens because y'all just really weird over there

    • @blackphillip4424
      @blackphillip4424 3 года назад +160

      @@jahdielheywood5277 Christianity is just really weird everywhere

    • @jahdielheywood5277
      @jahdielheywood5277 3 года назад +114

      @@blackphillip4424 nahh your perception of it is weird

  • @vivyvocalist723
    @vivyvocalist723 3 года назад +526

    I'm so glad they got rid of the flat earther Christians and finally brought thoughtful people on here. Well done

    • @devincanada9523
      @devincanada9523 3 года назад +11

      AMEN!

    • @edenswaterislife9214
      @edenswaterislife9214 3 года назад

      The messiah is a Hebrew Israelite not a Roman Christian. It speaks this throughout the entire Bible. His name was changed. Hallelujah means Praise Ye Yah seek or sleep

    • @faoink
      @faoink 3 года назад +3

      @@edenswaterislife9214 you, to summarize your beliefs, think white ppl due to their ancestors will burn in hell because you think that the slave master's children will burn. You think unless they accept that are lower than us (your version of the covenant only ) they will burn in hell. If they accept the covenant they will be slaves to us black ppl. This ideology is harmful so no. Even as a black person I don't believe the Messiah has such a wicked narrative.

  • @justarandomweeb4234
    @justarandomweeb4234 Год назад +130

    20:02 I believe that when you’re able to straight up say that you don’t believe certain parts of the Bible then you have a big issue

    • @Megalaglag
      @Megalaglag 7 месяцев назад +6

      Yup, she is a heretic

    • @Estherokuwa
      @Estherokuwa 7 месяцев назад

      That’s craaaaaazy

    • @originalslicey
      @originalslicey 6 месяцев назад +10

      I don't know who all needs to hear this, but THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL.

    • @UrMom-jq8my
      @UrMom-jq8my 6 месяцев назад

      @@originalslicey Of course most parts aren't, but that doesn't take away its absolute credibility.

    • @Kevintendo
      @Kevintendo 6 месяцев назад +4

      Many Christians believe lots of the Bible is metaphorical, allegorical, etc.. 7 days of creation, anyone?

  • @cranesonice6566
    @cranesonice6566 3 года назад +3407

    “I probably wouldn’t have said it as curt”
    Next speaker: Curt

  • @MMGamesMM
    @MMGamesMM 3 года назад +691

    Do a similar video “Progressive Muslims vs Conservative Muslims” who agrees?

    • @w3jd4n
      @w3jd4n 3 года назад +6

      yuh

    • @murillop8362
      @murillop8362 3 года назад +6

      Don't

    • @w3jd4n
      @w3jd4n 3 года назад +1

      @@murillop8362 nuh

    • @tripledigit4835
      @tripledigit4835 3 года назад +50

      It depended where the Muslims come from, a conservative Muslim in the US would be similar to a conservative Christian. If the Muslim came from Saudi Arabia on the other hand well .... shits going to go down

    • @servantofjesuschrist839
      @servantofjesuschrist839 3 года назад +3

      Lets start rn,
      Why did Muhammed marry 9 year old Aisha?

  • @taliyah2639
    @taliyah2639 3 года назад +5806

    The bald man is so calm and he makes me feel so safe 😂

    • @cauliflower2003
      @cauliflower2003 3 года назад +351

      Sameee his voice felt like a warm hug 🤗

    • @kanine_2550
      @kanine_2550 3 года назад +3

      That's a tad sus m8

    • @kittennight3305
      @kittennight3305 3 года назад +6

      @Slawsers I get that lol

    • @taliyah2639
      @taliyah2639 3 года назад +5

      @@cauliflower2003 yessss it felt exactly like that

    • @andreah.6484
      @andreah.6484 3 года назад +22

      It’s always the bald men who are awesome 😂

  • @shannonhaworth2098
    @shannonhaworth2098 Год назад +517

    It is HARD watching people justify sin so blatantly 😢

    • @kap849
      @kap849 Год назад +132

      And so passionately too while claiming to be Christians 😭. It's heartbreaking.

    • @evontheone
      @evontheone Год назад +16

      tell me about it 🥲

    • @ryanlindback9393
      @ryanlindback9393 Год назад +13

      It’s so sad.. pray for them..

    • @VasatiBrown
      @VasatiBrown Год назад +12

      So true!!! They even twisted what the Bible says. Lol

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Год назад +4

      "sin" is a word only in Christianity.

  • @Max-lx2vx
    @Max-lx2vx 3 года назад +3383

    i feel really bad for Curt in the lgbtq talking part there just saying how gay people won’t go to heaven and stuff and he’s here like:🧍‍♂️

    • @ilovejesus77888
      @ilovejesus77888 3 года назад +303

      well he has to hear it. It hurts but it’s a warning so he doesn’t go there. Someone had to say it

    • @Max-lx2vx
      @Max-lx2vx 3 года назад +655

      @@ilovejesus77888 he’s not gonna go to hell for being gay

    • @gabbyalarcon305
      @gabbyalarcon305 3 года назад +118

      @Bruno Menezes why?

    • @Max-lx2vx
      @Max-lx2vx 3 года назад +187

      @Bruno Menezes no he won’t

    • @ilovejesus77888
      @ilovejesus77888 3 года назад +172

      @@Max-lx2vx I can guarantee that you really have no knowledge of what it is to follow Christ . He’s a compromised Christian. That’s the progressive clan. They want to follow Christ but there’s parts that they don’t want to let go, so they compromise and call it progressive Christianity. In other words..foolishness. So I don’t blame you for thinking that way. Take care.

  • @joeyangel69
    @joeyangel69 3 года назад +894

    “I had to go to counseling bc of what the church did to me and it took the counselor who wasn’t Christian to help me see that God didn’t hurt me, the church hurt me” 😳😳 I need therapy LOOOOL

    • @Swttpea
      @Swttpea 3 года назад +76

      Churches push ppl away more often then they think. It’s incredibly sad.

    • @oifelixheresyourramen6107
      @oifelixheresyourramen6107 3 года назад +28

      Even my pastor says religion won't heal you, God will

    • @-----------g-
      @-----------g- 3 года назад +2

      You look gender soluble.

    • @lemadraws9751
      @lemadraws9751 3 года назад +2

      I’m just curious do you mind explaining (doesn’t have to be in detail) what the church did to you? What can we fix? What did they do wrong, and I’m so sorry that happened to you.

    • @iliketurtles4359
      @iliketurtles4359 3 года назад +1

      @@lemadraws9751 she quoted a guy in the video

  • @ashleyhernandez2450
    @ashleyhernandez2450 3 года назад +903

    if only the presidential debates were this civil

    • @minor7805
      @minor7805 3 года назад +3

      I didn't watch all the past debates but im pretty sure it was just the 2020 debate that was bad

    • @juliakay7446
      @juliakay7446 3 года назад +3

      Minor The first debate wasn't respectful at all, mostly from President Trump, but still from both parties. The second one, however, was much more enjoyable to watch as they respected each other.

    • @gracedicken8708
      @gracedicken8708 3 года назад +3

      But then they wouldn’t be so funny!!!!!!😂

    • @punishedkim8830
      @punishedkim8830 3 года назад

      @@juliakay7446 why would traitor Biden deserve respect

    • @juliakay7446
      @juliakay7446 3 года назад

      Punished Kim I think that Joe Biden is the worst person to be president. I support Donald Trump, but I think that it's clear to see that he was not respectful in the first debate. Having a civilized debate instead of a heated argument would ultimately be more beneficial to everyone, and the first debate simply wasn't that. As far as why Joe Biden deserves respect, personally, I don't think he does. He is a racist liar who can't give a five minute speech without a teleprompter. Why would he deserve my respect? He doesn't.

  • @robertmagnificent9815
    @robertmagnificent9815 3 месяца назад +14

    Calling yourself a Christian and comfortably living is sin is wild work

  • @nono-mu9rw
    @nono-mu9rw 3 года назад +1839

    how do they quote the bible like that when I can't even remember song lyrics

    • @brookepettenati3323
      @brookepettenati3323 3 года назад +26

      right 😭😭

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 3 года назад +36

      Jesus loves me this I know because the bible tells me so, little ones to he belong they are weak but he is strong. yes Jesus loves me, yes Jesus loves me the bible tells me so. I remember that from when I was a child. Although no longer claim to believe in any god.

    • @marcilk7534
      @marcilk7534 3 года назад +35

      They work at memorizing it. I have difficulty memorizing too.

    • @mollie-maiellmer6607
      @mollie-maiellmer6607 3 года назад +2

      Bible*

    • @clarissafairchild16
      @clarissafairchild16 3 года назад +7

      I can quote one verse and that's it. And that's bc it was drilled into my head during bible study in third grade...I'm now in 9th grade and agnostic

  • @daniescobarm
    @daniescobarm 3 года назад +1966

    I literally CACKLED at “people who break the speed limit” y’all are too much

    • @nino-wm1km
      @nino-wm1km 3 года назад +33

      same that was too funny 😭

    • @ashton4950
      @ashton4950 3 года назад +45

      the Bible notes breaking any law of the land as a sin! any law big or small is applicable to this verse that’s where they’re getting it from!

    • @steezbuscemi
      @steezbuscemi 3 года назад +4

      I needed to click of after that, my goodness

    • @mattspyro
      @mattspyro 3 года назад +48

      @@ashton4950 exactly yet another reason the bible is a joke. All these religions based on literal text is so silly

    • @delancey3181
      @delancey3181 3 года назад

      Cálmate imbecil

  • @AbuLuLu313
    @AbuLuLu313 2 года назад +3238

    I would really love to see a group of three discuss. Conservative Jews - Conservative Muslims - Conservative Christians. That would be really interesting.

    • @Potnoodle123
      @Potnoodle123 2 года назад +239

      They'd be suprised how similarly we think lol

    • @south7132
      @south7132 2 года назад +146

      We think extremely similarity when it comes to politics but a discussion between theology regarding the abrahamic religions would be very interesting...

    • @coffeemetro
      @coffeemetro 2 года назад +44

      I mean, there's bound to be some overlap with the abrahamic religions. What I'd like to see though is Conservative Muslims speaking to Liberal Muslims, I'd like to see some of the misogynistic and homophobic muslims have their eyes opened to see that you've got to love people, no matter who they are.

    • @shockhouser3171
      @shockhouser3171 2 года назад

      Oh yea

    • @duchessoftheprairie
      @duchessoftheprairie Год назад +3

      @@coffeemetro they already did it. it was hard for me to go through with some people against my identity, but ..... yeah.

  • @Ebunmatthews
    @Ebunmatthews Год назад +11

    Wow, I think talks like this should be held often...
    It's beautiful to behold...
    It's so not aggressive, the answers came in softly, and gentle. And every bit of it came out nice.
    Thank you

  • @mariag2545
    @mariag2545 3 года назад +1446

    The black worship leader guy looks like he’s straight outta the 70s
    edit: omg this got a lot of like hahaha

    • @tricktrapper
      @tricktrapper 3 года назад +160

      man I feel so bad for that dude. He's throwing a major life experience away because of one line in a 2,000 year old book that was mistranslated three hundred years ago. nah son be you

    • @emmajoygray7239
      @emmajoygray7239 3 года назад +50

      @@tricktrapper he hates himself so much :(

    • @snoopythedoge5639
      @snoopythedoge5639 3 года назад +49

      @@tricktrapper the bible speaks against homosexuality in many different parts of the Bible, so it was not just a mistranslated word. (For example, Leviticus and some of Paul's writings. I dont remember the specific verses tho) God bless.

    • @atrixsauza2068
      @atrixsauza2068 3 года назад +21

      @@snoopythedoge5639 that does not mean the book is good. It is still outdated as it was made by ignorant men after all

    • @ChrisSmith-pe4tf
      @ChrisSmith-pe4tf 3 года назад +29

      @@emmajoygray7239 no he doesn’t, he will get his eternal reward

  • @TimeWillShell
    @TimeWillShell 3 года назад +1611

    Thoughts from an independent Christian:
    Gentle reminder that Jesus was not an American and never identified with any political parties in His own time, please do not try to limit people’s access to God based on their party.
    Gentle reminder that we are called to identify first with Christ and that self-control is a gift of the Holy Spirit that has no expiration or limitation.
    Gentle reminder that you are loved fully by love. God is love by his very nature. Strive to love like Him first and seek His love above anything else.

    • @aa-zq2fr
      @aa-zq2fr 3 года назад +94

      agreed! in my opinion, neither party embodies christianity and we shouldn't expect them to. telling young christians they should be R/D to be "more christian" is a disservice, i hope to see more independent christians in politics :)

    • @berkozkan3922
      @berkozkan3922 3 года назад +7

      That’s a fair point. US Christianity comes with freedom to act by default bc those are American vlaues

    • @TimeWillShell
      @TimeWillShell 3 года назад +30

      ​@@berkozkan3922 It's wonderful that living in America we have the freedom to live our faith without threat! However, true freedom comes from Christ, not the government and I want to respond to that freedom first.
      "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." - John 8:36
      "For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another." - Galatians 5:13

    • @berkozkan3922
      @berkozkan3922 3 года назад +1

      @@TimeWillShell cool

    • @AmeNgwako
      @AmeNgwako 3 года назад +2

      Amen

  • @jamesselmer
    @jamesselmer 3 года назад +301

    As a christian, I would just like to say thankyou for representing the spectrum of Christian belief in this video. Often on social media, Christians are portrayed in a very narrow way. So seeing this is refreshing

    • @l.anii__
      @l.anii__ 3 года назад +3

      yup! God bless btw

    • @chynnadoll99
      @chynnadoll99 3 года назад +2

      Me 2 I’m Christian too!

    • @xXlilmehakXx
      @xXlilmehakXx 3 года назад +1

      Yes 🙌🏼

    • @evanicolesantos6734
      @evanicolesantos6734 3 года назад +1

      Totally

    • @juliej8980
      @juliej8980 3 года назад

      @electric chair how do you know that? as represented in this video there are conservative christians but progressive christians with open minds exist

  • @AllieCoco
    @AllieCoco 4 месяца назад +12

    Jason and Angel are literally my fav people on this whole interview… not only where they giving proper scriptures but they were also patient, calm and kind as well!

  • @jared3235
    @jared3235 3 года назад +990

    I’m amazed of everyone’s ability to articulate their beliefs. That’s what I want to do. Not convince others of what I believe but simply articulate what I believe.

    • @maliah2992
      @maliah2992 3 года назад +37

      The best way to do that is to say, "im not trying to change your opinion, but since we're on the topic, and you got to share how you felt, I'd like the same opportunity to do so."

    • @jared3235
      @jared3235 3 года назад +14

      @CanUDraw As a Christian I believe it’s important to preach the good news of Gods kingdom. Not everyone cares to listen and that’s their prerogative. But for those that are intrigued I wish I was able to express myself in an articulate and confident way.

    • @tinybubs6145
      @tinybubs6145 3 года назад

      @@jared3235 Preach

    • @عبدالعزيزعبدالله-ط7م
      @عبدالعزيزعبدالله-ط7م 3 года назад

      (33) Indeed, Allāh chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of ʿImrān over the worlds(34) Descendants, some of them from others. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing.
      (35) [Mention, O Muḥammad], when the wife of ʿImrān said, "My Lord, indeed I have pledged to You what is in my womb, consecrated [for Your service], so accept this from me. Indeed, You are the Hearing, the Knowing."
      delivered her, she said, "My Lord, I have delivered a female." And Allāh was most knowing of what she delivered, and the male is not like the female. "And I have named her Mary, and I seek refuge for her in You and [for] her descendants from Satan, the expelled [from the mercy of Allāh]."
      accepted her with good acceptance and caused her to grow in a good manner and put her in the care of Zechariah. Every time Zechariah entered upon her in the prayer chamber, he found with her provision. He said, "O Mary, from where is this [coming] to you?" She said, "It is from Allāh. Indeed, Allāh provides for whom He wills without account."
      (38) At that, Zechariah called upon his Lord, saying, "My Lord, grant me from Yourself a good offspring. Indeed, You are the Hearer of supplication."
      (39) So the angels called him while he was standing in prayer in the chamber, "Indeed, Allāh gives you good tidings of John, confirming a word[123] from Allāh and [who will be] honorable, abstaining [from women], and a prophet from among the righteous.
      (40) He said, "My Lord, how will I have a boy when I have reached old age and my wife is barren?" He [the angel] said, "Such is Allāh; He does what He wills.
      (41) He said, "My Lord, make for me a sign." He said, "Your sign is that you will not [be able to] speak to the people for three days except by gesture. And remember your Lord much and exalt [Him with praise] in the evening and the morning.
      (42) And [mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allāh has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of the worlds
      (43) O Mary, be devoutly obedient to your Lord and prostrate and bow with those who bow [in prayer]."
      (44) That is from the news of the unseen which We reveal to you, [O Muḥammad]. And you were not with them when they cast their pens[124] as to which of them should be responsible for Mary. Nor were you with them when they disputed.
      (45) [And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allāh gives you good tidings of a word[125] from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allāh].
      (46) He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."
      (47) She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allāh; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is.
      (48) And He will teach him writing and wisdom[126] and the Torah and the Gospel
      messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allāh. And I cure the blind [from birth] and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allāh. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.
      (50) And [I have come] confirming what was before me of the Torah and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear Allāh and obey me.
      (51) Indeed, Allāh is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path.'"
      (52) But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allāh?" The disciples said, "We are supporters for Allāh. We have believed in Allāh and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].
      (53) Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger [i.e., Jesus], so register us among the witnesses [to truth]."
      (54) And they [i.e., the disbelievers] planned, but Allāh planned. And Allāh is the best of planners.
      Allāh said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify [i.e., free] you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allāh alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.
      (56) And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers

    • @robocop6573
      @robocop6573 3 года назад +1

      if you are good at articulating then you could convince others easily

  • @owenhasler7590
    @owenhasler7590 3 года назад +801

    “People who break the speed limit”
    Wait a damn minute...

    • @drhemaword
      @drhemaword 3 года назад +11

      breaking the speed limit can't be compared to living in habitual sin.

    • @PepsighCO
      @PepsighCO 3 года назад +3

      I think it was a joke. Granted the bible does say just because we are christians we aren above the law (whether it means gods law or earthly law idk)

    • @saturn915
      @saturn915 3 года назад +15

      *Cue the gays can't drive jokes*

    • @exploitation_restoration
      @exploitation_restoration 3 года назад +4

      seems like billie eilish is bouta be in some hot water
      [for reference if you didnt get it billie was in an interview and stated she goes 120 on the freeway. F]

    • @kamsav6750
      @kamsav6750 3 года назад

      @@drhemaword I mean. It’s putting LIBES IN DANGER god said respect the government

  • @alyssagggghik
    @alyssagggghik 3 года назад +2734

    The thing that kills me about the “trust God” with the high risk pregnancy is like you aren’t talking about spreading an idea within a Christian community you’re talking about enacting a law on an entire nation that has no national religion.

  • @paulinejulien9191
    @paulinejulien9191 Год назад +17

    As someone coming from a European country where atheism is the norm and religion is the exception, I actually find this fascinating to watch.

  • @tomiy09
    @tomiy09 3 года назад +942

    “People in the church hurt you, not god” - powerful.

    • @macbeth7701
      @macbeth7701 3 года назад +22

      God* Truueeee 🙏🏾🙌🏾

    • @jamesx8188
      @jamesx8188 3 года назад +4

      very

    • @f1i273
      @f1i273 3 года назад +14

      God doesn’t exist

    • @macbeth7701
      @macbeth7701 3 года назад +21

      @@f1i273 He surely does sir or ma’am

    • @ogechianusi6809
      @ogechianusi6809 3 года назад +13

      @@f1i273 well many believe he does and many don't so I think you should just respect each opinion

  • @hollsmarija2880
    @hollsmarija2880 3 года назад +2808

    I would have loved to see other topics discussed, like divorce, drinking, music, denominations, topics of sexuality and pro-life are always put up on a pedestal and talked about widely.

    • @johnnyhandel4085
      @johnnyhandel4085 3 года назад +88

      Sure that would be interesting, but those topics are “on a pedestal” because they are important and effecting people on a much larger scale

    • @Leah-Stan
      @Leah-Stan 3 года назад +4

      @@johnnyhandel4085 How is music effecting people 🤔

    • @Eloweh
      @Eloweh 3 года назад +12

      Ya there should be a part 2

    • @v.k5417
      @v.k5417 3 года назад +9

      Divorce is accepted a lot more in Protestantism, this show is in America, so Protestants would be fine. Drinking is frowned upon by Baptists. Basically these topics that you stated depend more on denomination rather than Conservatism/Liberalism [In Christianity]

    • @johnnyhandel4085
      @johnnyhandel4085 3 года назад +1

      Monty Mole would you care to re-read mine or the the OPs comment?

  • @bellalovesswisher
    @bellalovesswisher 3 года назад +654

    Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Brenda is basically Drew Berrymore?

    • @mikedelvalle931
      @mikedelvalle931 3 года назад +5

      All I hear is Drew now hahahaa

    • @bryan9501
      @bryan9501 3 года назад +11

      I just figured out who Drew Barrymore is (never knew her name) and watched SZA music video to see her cameo then the next thing I did was watch this video and see Brenda........... the yt algorithm notices the resemblance too

    • @cattd00
      @cattd00 3 года назад +2

      dude i was thinking the same thing

    • @lorpen4535
      @lorpen4535 3 года назад

      More like Miranda Otto

    • @joyalovespeace
      @joyalovespeace 3 года назад

      @@bryan9501 wearing cloths is a sin lol

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot2
    @manuginobilisbaldspot2 8 месяцев назад +15

    I can tell just by looking that Angel is pissed. Royally pissed.

  • @Rosalie450
    @Rosalie450 3 года назад +2341

    This episode showed that you don’t need to raise your voice or your temper to have a powerful voice! I felt like Brenda and Curt were very strong speakers without being aggressive

    • @habenwoldemelak4507
      @habenwoldemelak4507 3 года назад +46

      Yes to the first part but no to the second it’s just cause u agreee with them, they had no points

    • @Densoro
      @Densoro 3 года назад +138

      @@habenwoldemelak4507 They literally dissected the changes in translation over the years. ‘Man shall not lie with man’ was originally ‘with boy.’
      This undercuts every presupposition of the clobber verses.

    • @habenwoldemelak4507
      @habenwoldemelak4507 3 года назад +15

      @@Densoro it’s been debunked go search it again

    • @jasonmartinez7667
      @jasonmartinez7667 3 года назад

      Nah *Brenda*

    • @jinjunliu2401
      @jinjunliu2401 3 года назад +11

      I do agree with Yonko here. That when you agree with someone, you'll see them in a better light and focus more on them in a positive way. For me, I didn't have anyone really stand out because I agree partially with both sides' arguments

  • @Jupiters_burns
    @Jupiters_burns 3 года назад +2270

    ANGEL LITERALLY CAME OUT THE CLOSET, DID A SPIN AND WALKED RIGHT BACK IN.

  • @iampomegranates
    @iampomegranates 3 года назад +764

    It would be cool to see a Jewish version of this. “Conservative vs. Progressive Jews”

    • @mantabsekali920
      @mantabsekali920 3 года назад +2

      @Alison Burkholder people gonna be people, standing in their own belief lol

    • @solomonlamb
      @solomonlamb 3 года назад

      but then there’s no way pewds would be able to commentate on it :(

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 3 года назад +7

      Zionist vs Non-Zionist Jews would be interesting as well.

    • @elanan9411
      @elanan9411 3 года назад +2

      Unfortunately I don't think Jubilee would represent it well. A lot of progressive jews in America don't have any actual connection to their jewishness and merely use it as a tool to victimize themselves. To actually have any significance to the whole discussion you would have to have jews that practice judaism. The way I could see it going is that both sides are the extremes and not proper representation of the majority of each population. This would also be very damaging to the public view on jews and can generate even more hate and misunderstanding.

    • @mantabsekali920
      @mantabsekali920 3 года назад

      @@elanan9411 or the may find the middle ground and see each other as equal then they can live peacefully standing on that same ground.

  • @gerard7417
    @gerard7417 Год назад +61

    Angel and Jason are my favorite they spoke facts and fighting against evil hidden in plain sight , respectfully ofc , no doubt. Lol .

  • @brisk362
    @brisk362 3 года назад +1444

    I love how respectful everyone was despite their differences. This was a really good one!

    • @lvjonjon215
      @lvjonjon215 3 года назад +3

      YES 💯

    • @madmike4061
      @madmike4061 3 года назад +55

      i do not agree. the conservatives were very disrespectful. their delivery was respectful, but you cannot believe someone is going to rot in hell based on how they were born and still be respectful.

    • @xaxis9229
      @xaxis9229 3 года назад +15

      I think it was respectful but Jason got super disrespectful at the end. It was kinda sad

    • @CJan65
      @CJan65 3 года назад +14

      @@xaxis9229 dude was being honest.

    • @jltplease
      @jltplease 3 года назад +5

      Respectful? The progressive christians were totally taking jabs