Great review, I know a lot of people were interested in the new Kizer fluid 5 frames. I noticed that you mentioned the size as a 10-11 shell, but the skate comes in 9-10 (43-44) and 11-12 (45-46) shell sizes. Also, I found the Sway shell to be very accommodating for my wide feet, but I ride the 7.5-8 (41-42) shell, so there may be some difference in width depending on the length.
You're absolutely right. I didn't even think of that. I'd assume they were the 11-12 shells now that I think of it. I forgot USD has that wacky sizing from everyone else. I'll verify to be 100% sure on my answer though. - Travis
Was thinking to get back into skating after 15 years? Looking for budget skates have wide feet. How do these compare to the usd sway team iii. Im totally lost in today's world. oh great vid thanks PS: adding Razor Cults, Aeon 60 to that. Its seems like i might favor either one of these
I know this isn’t about the SL’s, but thinking of buying some & have about same foot size as you. Do you use the 10-11 shell with the Intuitions? Have you ever tried the SL toe cut to downsize? Thx 🙏🏻
I responded above about that. " I've modified the toe box on some 8-9's before and skated them for a month or so, but I'm a true 10-11 in those shells" The 8-9's with intuitions did not work for me. I'm an 11, so sizing down makes me a 10. If you are a 10, you can do an 8-9 probably no problem. Even without toe box modification. My whole position is why cheat your feet to get a slightly smaller shell? If you stub your toes in those smaller skates, it super hurts. I gave up and skate what my feet want me to skate, and it's made me immensely happier. - Travis
Just about to pull the trigger on skates, haven’t skated in 15 years+. Was think Roces M12’s as that’s what I’ve always had. Is there any other ones I should be considering? Don’t want to spend much more than €200~
Martin Davis nice, happy with your choice. A little worried about looking like a total gobshite but figure it will be a bit a fun and good exercise. Interesting to see what I’m like now. 😂
Really really solid skating and style Travis! I would recommend heat molding the liner if you are having trouble with your accessory navicular, but at the same time, it also depends on the skates. I had no problem with that area in my Gawds even when I sized down, but had trouble with it in Powerslide NEXTs and Razors Genesys. You also said the groove was really scary but you didn't get wheelbite, what do you mean by "scary"? I ride 50/50s flat and that groove is definitely very small, this groove looks more forgiving than that. My 50/50 flat setup I would characterize as somewhat difficult to deal with but generally wheelbite does not make me eat shit or anything. How does the groove stack up to Megas?
Interesting insight on the 50/50 flat frames Thank you I’ve always wondered about that groove in that setup Looks less than stellar with all the flat setup options there are out there currently Just my few pennies
Thank you so very much for that. I really try to work hard on my skating and style, and it's always appreciated when folks take notice. Thank you! So I don't know if the liner in that skate could be heat molded. There wasn't much to it. Even with my Sis, that same pressure point appeared. And yes, it always depends on the skate for me. V13's/M12's do not work at all for me, but the Valo lights were amazing. Speaking about the groove, it's a very very tight groove, and it's pretty unforgiving. Comparing it to the 50/50 groove, the Kizer is higher, and will have less wheelbase I'd assume, but it also comes with an increased chance of slipping out as that H Block is just so tight. Fat rails would be scary to try on. But the material looks like it'd expand over time as your break it in and break it down. Comparing it to the Megas, the mega have a much better H Block and skate about the same on angles. between the two, I'd skate the megas if I had to make a choice. But the plastic is nicer on the fluids for sure. It's all personal preference. - Travis
I tested a lot of things. If you have an accessory navicular, heating up the shell itself and pushing out the plastic is the way to go. (Sounds like Travis has something else tho.)
@@HollyBoni Possibly the same thing. I've never had it diagnosed or anything. It's just always been a pressure point right on the Royale groove of many skates. Yeah, heat molding might help for sure. It was just prominent and defined pain, and usually an level of heat molding has not overcome that in the past with other skates. - Travis
I'm a huge fan of the Razors SL Skates. No pain in that spot at all. It's my everyday skate. Super versatile, and feels great. If those don't work, a sized down Roces Fifth Element works wonders too for wide feet. Hope that helps! - Travis
Thanks for the review. I got these for my first aggressive style skate because some Reddit comments mentioned they were good for wide feet. They do seem okay to me, but in your video I think you were saying you prefer something wider? If that's true, do you have any recommended brands or skates for wide feet? Thanks, I really enjoy your content.
@@ThisWeekinBlade I too ride a 10-11 shell in Razors but always wanted to try to downsize the 8-9 shell with intuition liners. How did it feel when you downsized?
@@ethanramos8130 I commented on that below. "The 8-9's with intuitions did not work for me. I'm an 11, so sizing down makes me a 10. If you are a 10, you can do an 8-9 probably no problem. Even without toe box modification. My whole position is why cheat your feet to get a slightly smaller shell? If you stub your toes in those smaller skates, it super hurts. I gave up and skate what my feet want me to skate, and it's made me immensely happier." Hope that helps! - Travis
Hey I have that exact pain in my foot that you are talking about I believe it started from rolling my ankle numerous times so the side of my foot can be tender in certain skates/shoes....I unfortunately bought the sway 57 b4 seeing this video and can only skate for like 10 mins b4 needing a break......can u give me a list of skates that u feel the least bit of pressure in that spot?
It's all about the Mondo measurement that'll give you the exact size I have a 45 - 46 and it's 289mm - 296mm. Hope that helps you make an informed decision.
@@nednoob I got the 11-12 and they fit pretty good just a heads up for anyone else who may wonder. Thanks a lot. I'm pretty sure the 10-11 would have fit better (snug) but the 11-12 is good to go.
@@nednoob update for this USD YES, YOU ARE 100 CORRECT. 10-11. BEEN DOING SOME QUARANTINE SKATING AND THEYRE ALREADY PRETTY LOSE. 👊 THANKS FOR THE HELP.
just shave down the top area of the royale groove 2-3 millimeters. also, i wonder since you're using a thinner liner if it makes that area more of a painful pressure point than it needs to be.
Not a beginner skate!! There Hella heavy!! 2000-06 UP SIDE DOWNS are way better molding. Boot and liner. These new skates are junk! And look like some ugly as ski boots.
The skating part ends 55 seconds in. If you didn't come to watch a grown man skate a 7 inch tall box in skates that aren't his own and then spend several minutes talking about them, I don't know what you expected.
Bought these today! Can't wait to try them out, it's been nearly 10 years since I last skated and thought these were reasonably priced!
Those banks, that whole area, and he’s skating a homemade 📦
Great review, I know a lot of people were interested in the new Kizer fluid 5 frames. I noticed that you mentioned the size as a 10-11 shell, but the skate comes in 9-10 (43-44) and 11-12 (45-46) shell sizes. Also, I found the Sway shell to be very accommodating for my wide feet, but I ride the 7.5-8 (41-42) shell, so there may be some difference in width depending on the length.
You're absolutely right. I didn't even think of that. I'd assume they were the 11-12 shells now that I think of it. I forgot USD has that wacky sizing from everyone else. I'll verify to be 100% sure on my answer though. - Travis
Plus they changed the sizing considerably
@@ThisWeekinBlade Did you verify it?
That is a 10 - 11 in UK sizes no doubt. 🤣 I don't know why we can't just have the same sizes in the US and UK.
I want to start Skating, are agressive Skates good for beginners? Or should i buy some Free/Urban skates ?
Are these the 10-10.5 or the 11-12 shells? I'm curious because they do not have a 10-11.
I'm waiting m'y Sway 57 this Week. 🤗🤗✌️😉 Have a Good Ride And Enjoy Agressiv Blading Everybody. 👍
Did not realise Travis had the moves on blades! True top acid and 360 mizou! Boom.
Was thinking to get back into skating after 15 years? Looking for budget skates have wide feet. How do these compare to the usd sway team iii. Im totally lost in today's world. oh great vid thanks
PS: adding Razor Cults, Aeon 60 to that. Its seems like i might favor either one of these
grabbed cults loveeee the skates liners could be better and wheels but the skates r good 👋🏻
the grindbox have PVC tube ?
I know this isn’t about the SL’s, but thinking of buying some & have about same foot size as you. Do you use the 10-11 shell with the Intuitions? Have you ever tried the SL toe cut to downsize? Thx 🙏🏻
I responded above about that. " I've modified the toe box on some 8-9's before and skated them for a month or so, but I'm a true 10-11 in those shells" The 8-9's with intuitions did not work for me. I'm an 11, so sizing down makes me a 10. If you are a 10, you can do an 8-9 probably no problem. Even without toe box modification. My whole position is why cheat your feet to get a slightly smaller shell? If you stub your toes in those smaller skates, it super hurts. I gave up and skate what my feet want me to skate, and it's made me immensely happier. - Travis
Just about to pull the trigger on skates, haven’t skated in 15 years+. Was think Roces M12’s as that’s what I’ve always had. Is there any other ones I should be considering? Don’t want to spend much more than €200~
You’re in the same position as me - must be about 17 years since I’ve skated and just pulled the trigger on these. Can’t wait to get back into it
Martin Davis nice, happy with your choice. A little worried about looking like a total gobshite but figure it will be a bit a fun and good exercise. Interesting to see what I’m like now. 😂
glanzbo Same here 😂 Bambi on ice comes to mind!
Really really solid skating and style Travis!
I would recommend heat molding the liner if you are having trouble with your accessory navicular, but at the same time, it also depends on the skates. I had no problem with that area in my Gawds even when I sized down, but had trouble with it in Powerslide NEXTs and Razors Genesys.
You also said the groove was really scary but you didn't get wheelbite, what do you mean by "scary"? I ride 50/50s flat and that groove is definitely very small, this groove looks more forgiving than that. My 50/50 flat setup I would characterize as somewhat difficult to deal with but generally wheelbite does not make me eat shit or anything.
How does the groove stack up to Megas?
Interesting insight on the 50/50 flat frames
Thank you
I’ve always wondered about that groove in that setup
Looks less than stellar with all the flat setup options there are out there currently
Just my few pennies
Thank you so very much for that. I really try to work hard on my skating and style, and it's always appreciated when folks take notice. Thank you!
So I don't know if the liner in that skate could be heat molded. There wasn't much to it. Even with my Sis, that same pressure point appeared. And yes, it always depends on the skate for me. V13's/M12's do not work at all for me, but the Valo lights were amazing.
Speaking about the groove, it's a very very tight groove, and it's pretty unforgiving. Comparing it to the 50/50 groove, the Kizer is higher, and will have less wheelbase I'd assume, but it also comes with an increased chance of slipping out as that H Block is just so tight. Fat rails would be scary to try on. But the material looks like it'd expand over time as your break it in and break it down. Comparing it to the Megas, the mega have a much better H Block and skate about the same on angles. between the two, I'd skate the megas if I had to make a choice. But the plastic is nicer on the fluids for sure. It's all personal preference. - Travis
I tested a lot of things. If you have an accessory navicular, heating up the shell itself and pushing out the plastic is the way to go. (Sounds like Travis has something else tho.)
@@HollyBoni Possibly the same thing. I've never had it diagnosed or anything. It's just always been a pressure point right on the Royale groove of many skates. Yeah, heat molding might help for sure. It was just prominent and defined pain, and usually an level of heat molding has not overcome that in the past with other skates. - Travis
Thanks for the review. Any other skate models that you consider having the same pressure points as these (for the reference)? Thanks!
I'm a huge fan of the Razors SL Skates. No pain in that spot at all. It's my everyday skate. Super versatile, and feels great. If those don't work, a sized down Roces Fifth Element works wonders too for wide feet. Hope that helps! - Travis
Thanks for the review. I got these for my first aggressive style skate because some Reddit comments mentioned they were good for wide feet. They do seem okay to me, but in your video I think you were saying you prefer something wider? If that's true, do you have any recommended brands or skates for wide feet? Thanks, I really enjoy your content.
Skates suck!! How u ended up liking them
Those pressure points were the reason I didn't like Thrones either. I wonder if their hardboot designs just have that point in them?
Yeeeeee
Do you ride the 10-11 shell in the SLs?
I do! I've modified the toe box on some 8-9's before and skated them for a month or so, but I'm a true 10-11 in those shells. - Travis
@@ThisWeekinBlade I too ride a 10-11 shell in Razors but always wanted to try to downsize the 8-9 shell with intuition liners. How did it feel when you downsized?
@@ethanramos8130 I commented on that below. "The 8-9's with intuitions did not work for me. I'm an 11, so sizing down makes me a 10. If you are a 10, you can do an 8-9 probably no problem. Even without toe box modification. My whole position is why cheat your feet to get a slightly smaller shell? If you stub your toes in those smaller skates, it super hurts. I gave up and skate what my feet want me to skate, and it's made me immensely happier." Hope that helps! - Travis
Great review! Wish my feet fit those skates, I want a pair! Are those Ryan's?
Thanks Brenden! They are. I do too. Honestly, I'd have a pair in the mail right now if they fit me. - Travis
These good for wider feet? They look cool and seem to be at a decent price point
I explained that in the video. I don't have wide feet, but I did have a lot of pressure points. - Travis
Hey I have that exact pain in my foot that you are talking about I believe it started from rolling my ankle numerous times so the side of my foot can be tender in certain skates/shoes....I unfortunately bought the sway 57 b4 seeing this video and can only skate for like 10 mins b4 needing a break......can u give me a list of skates that u feel the least bit of pressure in that spot?
Im new to skating and want to buy these because the price is perfect for me, are these a good fit for a beginner adult?
Yes and they have new sways out now all black or all white!
i have a 44.5-45 eu size what size should i get 43-44 or 45-46
It's all about the Mondo measurement that'll give you the exact size I have a 45 - 46 and it's 289mm - 296mm.
Hope that helps you make an informed decision.
I'm a size 10.5-11 would the 11-12 fit?
get 10-11
@@nednoob I got the 11-12 and they fit pretty good just a heads up for anyone else who may wonder. Thanks a lot. I'm pretty sure the 10-11 would have fit better (snug) but the 11-12 is good to go.
@@Captainhairyass in a few weeks time they may get loose you might need a new liner
@@nednoob could be, yes.
@@nednoob update for this USD YES, YOU ARE 100 CORRECT. 10-11. BEEN DOING SOME QUARANTINE SKATING AND THEYRE ALREADY PRETTY LOSE. 👊 THANKS FOR THE HELP.
cooool!!!! nice skatea!!
thanks
They changed the sizing on this model
Where is the link?? I that size. Give them to me. Lol
just shave down the top area of the royale groove 2-3 millimeters. also, i wonder since you're using a thinner liner if it makes that area more of a painful pressure point than it needs to be.
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Not a beginner skate!! There Hella heavy!! 2000-06 UP SIDE DOWNS are way better molding. Boot and liner. These new skates are junk! And look like some ugly as ski boots.
the talking part is less interesting
The skating part ends 55 seconds in. If you didn't come to watch a grown man skate a 7 inch tall box in skates that aren't his own and then spend several minutes talking about them, I don't know what you expected.
Well the talking part was the most important part atleast for me. Thanks!
got mine yesterday they are great :)))