I Entered A BJJ Tournament To Prove It Doesn't Work
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2023
- Does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu work in self-defense or street fight? Today I compete in a Jiujitsu tournament to see what happens if you don't go to the ground. Because that's the last place you wanna be in real life.
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You are uncovering an unfortunate truth of any sports martial art, they work best when you follow their rules. Not so much when you don't! I honestly think just about every martial art has it's place (well, almost every art), but in the end it's a game of rock paper scissors.
Sorry Jesse, I didn't watch until the end. My business partner (in a martial arts business of course) was an AFP officer, who's job it was to work with heads of state and keep them safe. Their organisation put BJJ into the curriculum for CPP and GD roles and after about 2 years pulled it all back out again. Statistically, the officer injury went up dramatically when the officer went to the ground with the offender. To solidify their decision a serious fight occurred in the city where I live, where a highly ranked (and well known) BJJ guy got into a fight one Friday night. He quickly and easily pulled his opponent to the ground and established top mount in moments, right before the opponent's mate kicked him in the head and put him in a coma... That is not to say BJJ doesn't have it's place, it does. You summed it up perfectly, there is a time and place, and the ground is the last place you want to be in a real fight.
@@mikebennett938 Put someone in coma so easily? Sorry to hear that! So this is a REAL fight which always commented by those keyboard warriors what kinds of martial arts doesn't work that one in hospital & one in jail or no punishment to the winner?
Good video. As black belt in Budokaido And Goujurio karate and as a kid who grew up in the streets of Kathmandu fighting, I approved it. Ground game is the last last resort. Last palce you wanna be in any fight.
Well said 👍
I'm Brazilian, and believe me, a bar fight almost always ends with a wooden plank to someone's head or with a gunshot.
And a lot of flip flops.
Sounds like one of those guys is definitely going to the ground.
@Carl-Schmidt
Haha very good.
Despite Hollywood movies I think a gun trumps years of training in almost any situation.
@@Superintendent_ChaImersyou crazy boy! 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
"opponent gives me the leg so I try to break it"
i fucking died
It wasn’t that funny. Don’t exaggerate
@@Lt-Leinad excuse me I won't ever exaggerate ever again in my life
@@user-yc5fq9bv3u thank you. very considerate
Don't you ever try to exaggerate like that again. How dare you find extremely funny something that is just moderately funny. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@Lt-Leinad it was funny as hell
"... and don't forget which belt you're on in BJJ."
I bet that alone left a scar.
Don't worry, at the end of the video he was 1 belt color higher.
"...cuz you have that gun in your trunk".
Bjj is overrated
@@oritafilms quite the opposite tbh
@@sdagdgdgsgshd5973 If sambo was easy it would be called BJJ
Masterclass in strategy!
Frustrate your opponent by not attacking, wait for him to make a mistake, surprise him with the only move you know 👏👏👏
The game within the game
dumbest comment ever
“There is no second place medal on the street”. The second place medal on the street is a hospital bed or coffin. The first place medal is a jail cell.
Right. The BEST fight is the one that never happened
That would be where cross training into JUDO or wrestling would come in. Wrestlers have arm awareness etc. Another words not hanging an arm out there to get caught by.
Maybe. Depends on the jurisdiction. I got a First Offender Plea but still had to do a year and 5 on Probation.
@@douglasbrannon6525 "Another words?"
@@joeaardvark9214 just saying each martial art has its advantages and disadvantages which is why cross training would be important . Bruce Lee recognized weaknesses in some martial arts and started Jeet Kune Do.
As a purple belt I can confirm that the biggest flaw in jiu jitsu is the lack of takedowns. Not very many jiu jitsu fighters learn them. Not a whole lot of coaches teach them. I always tell people that jiu jitsu is only effective if you can take your opponent to the ground and keep them there
mainly because untrained people can't stop a takedown, even a bad one. And training takedowns are where a lot of injuries happen. Unless your fighting a wrestler or MMA fighter, BJJ practitioners don't really need to drill TD's.
@@ManBat420 judo has pretty much been bastardized to be takedowns ONLY at this point. and every child and middle aged overweight parent does it. takedowns really aren't that dangerous.
you're right if you're a strict BJJ fighter you don't need them. but if you want to become a complete fighter and love fighting as a whole you should train them, just like judokas should train grappling.
@@user-ht7jr1ef4kJudo has no leg grabs, limited ground game and is Gi dependent. It’s not as comprehensive as you think. Still a great art though.
Yeah this would've failed in 3 seconds at a judo tournament haha
@@Seliimhannot dangerous? In combat a takedown is more like smashing your opponent to the ground. What you're talking about is something of a safe sport, when the conversation is more about combat and self-defense.
Going to a jiujitsu tournament and just falling back before going to the ground every time is like playing a football match and kicking the ball outside the field every time you get it
That’s the point
@viewer8636 but he didn't win without using jiu-jitsu... his video was to prove BJJ doesn't work in a street fight, but then didn't street fight, and tried to not fight at all. Beat the jiu-jitsu fighter in a no rules street fight and it would lend some credibility. Also, don't use a white belt, they barely know how to put on their gi correctly for the first 3 months, lol.
@@spartanmerc1 did you even watch the video? The only reason he engaged with the bjj fighter is because he was forced to by the ref
@@spartanmerc1 Call it BJJ bro, it's not even real Jiu Jitsu
I find that BJJ people tend to say that most fights end up on the ground to justify that BJJ is important in case of going to the ground. Someone asked Ted Wong about teaching ground fighting and he said that he teaches keeping the distance and being on your feet to counter grappling.
It reminds me of that one statistic that claims "90% of gamblers quit before they hit it big".
Wrestling would be better in that situation anyway. At least you'll be on top on the ground.
@@wigletron2846thats not always your choice
@@wigletron2846 in a grappling situation yeah but wrestling also teaches you to give away your back when you're on the ground
@@muntchzI've also seen a lot of wrestlers who like to lead with their face when going for a takedown, that usually doesn't work too well either...
I love that your opponent tried to shake your hand and you just pushed it away thinking he was going for a grip 😂😂
"I can't let you get close" - Chael Sonnen
That's how you die irl. An enemy poses as a friend.
@@dazeen9591 it's not like bro was going to kill him mid tournament.
It was a tournament. The opponent was trying to be respectful @@dazeen9591
Really? 😂 My bad
You gave this guy probably one of the most frustrating experiences of his life. 😅
Online dating as a man be like:
He was so confused
@@faismasterxLMFAO
Referee witnessing the most oddest redemption arc too in one match.
The ref gave you two points when he pulled guard 😂
These are some of the funniest edits ive seen haha love your humor
The students practicing getting knocked out and the street rolling edits = instant new sub from me hahah
I just started training in Jujitsu and my sensei constantly remind us not to just lay down because he said people are being lazy and in a real fight that's not where you want to be. We work on grappling standing and even getting back to our feet when we are on our backs. This video does show the ludicrous part of BJJ but thats why it should be a tool in the bag and not the sole thing to rely on, we train striking as well as wrestling.
Exactly. Karate guy here and striking is part of my dna, but ground work and grappling is part of my routine as well
BJJ stand up isn't very effective. It is 95% ground and 5% stand up so not very effective - you need to do a stand up martial art that is effective and can be integrated with BJJ such as Muay Thai or Judo.
@@Timst3R yes I know, we also have MMA classes as well as Kickboxing.
if u have real fight in mind bjj is not for u
Bjj is about the action to the reaction and vis versa. From what I have learnt as an early student, it’s about feeling your opponent. If you are standing in a street fight and you keep your distance you are winning. If some one is up in your face close the distance, you can see the attack is coming so you make your move, there is many variations you can use for a takedown but first you must feel what the enemy is doing. If you are good either way you are taking that sucker to the ground and with proper technique that enemy is done for
Fortunately, Brazilians have discovered this fatal flaw and adopted a new style - Mac 10. Highly effective whether or not you want to participate and play along.
I have a better technique, it's called 'concealed carry'.
@@justicedemocrat9357 You fool, my ultimate self-defense martial arts technique is even better: Track & Field, 100-meter dash
You can conceal a MAC-10.
@@justicedemocrat9357 mac 10s aren’t much bigger than a larger sized pistol if you remove or adjust the stock.
@@justicedemocrat9357 Mac-10 in the hand is worth two in the pocket.
No matter what martial art you practice, nothing works when someone runs away.😂
Exactly. Maybe someone should create martial arts which focuses on running away/escaping. One could practice this in different scenarios/environments; streets, forest, markets, bars... 🤣
@@Kenny0z It's called "Parkour"
Let's invent a fighting system that focuses on fighting while running, in any situation. Self defense and self offense. Either running away from your opponent, or chasing down your opponent.
@@sovietninja3 Runshido and we need one in case youre attacked during swimming, lets call it Aquatendo.
@@prometheus9096 Poseidon about to get humbled. LET'S GO 💪🥽
Ok, this was pretty good. Not what I expected, obviously nothing is "proven", but it makes a great point that needs underscored. It was informative, insightful, and fun. Keep it up!
After 10 years of practicing BJJ on and off, currently a purple belt (stuck here for 5 years) I've found a school where we start every roll standing, pulling guard is frowned upon and discouraged. Our coach is both a bjj/judo bb so at least 30-40% of the technique is takedowns, sweeps, and throws. It's hard af but I love it.
So youre doing real BJJ now, congrats
This is why I get frustrated when I ended up pulling guard cause I don’t find it as practical. I always try to go for other things but they are def harder.
When BJJ went to Brazil it didn't go as BJJ, it was Judo, however, when it was passed to the Gracie family, one of the smaller brothers realized he could never win against bigger judo fighters except with submissions from the ground and thus pulling guard and BJJ was born, taking this in consideration we realize that BJJ is specialized in countering bigger/better judo practitioners where takedowns are impossible, however, pulling guard has always meant to be a defence against a takedown so that you go to the ground on your own terms, doing your own takedown should always be preferred, especially if you're not against judo.
@@lukej7283sounds like a judo training session to me, where you have a mixture of radori and ne-waza.
@@kirito3082can you provide any written evidence of what you've just described? It's a shido to just pull a guard in judo.
Been learning BJJ the past five months and my ground work has gotten really good. We don't ignore takedowns so I've gotten pretty good at forcing people to the ground. However, my friend who trains MMA wanted to see if he defend my takedowns. Because I only practiced against guys who did BJJ my takedowns were useless. I have had no experience trying to takedown someone throwing kicks, punches and knees at me. Humbling but that's why I'm taking up other forms of martial arts to complement my BJJ.
What would you say is the best for street fighting. At 42 want to start martial arts
@daniel-1998 find an MMA gym they will do no gi jiu jitsu and muay thai/boxing. Practice for a year you'll be able to beat up all your friends.
@daniel-1998
Thai boxing
@@daniel-1998 Really, any martial art with enough sparring to train your reflexes and situational awareness. Techniques rarely matter in a street fight, as you will need to use everything at your disposal, including undehanded tactics. Street fighting is not a sport, it's about survival.
Im really interested to learn this art...i am a capoeira learner and this will help for my self defense can you suggest me any apps to learn this on
Love the way you're looking at things, dissecting them. Great stuff here.
"If he would have just stood up that never would have happened."
I spit out my water when he said that 😂
Running away from a fight and waiting for an opportunity can be applied to any martial art.
It has ALWAYS been the very best technique !!
@@shanghunter7697 Yep
@@DeadManWalking-ym1oo some people do move their heads into the punch and then under, because it both minimizes potential damage of a windup and has a chance of completely avoiding any damage, giving you a counter. Nicolino Locche who was dubbed the "Untouchable" mastered this technique, so it's not that it's impossible, just really hard and ineffective for most people.
Ah yes. The infamous Jostar-technique.
Jackie Chan
Bro’s confidence is 10/10, he entered a tournament not caring if he would look weird. Also, his opponent, a grown man, refuses to stand up, even if it’s BJJ, that just ain’t right
Isn't this automatic loss? It should be. Classical wrestling would mean the guy is pinned.
@@KasumiRINA well it's not classical wrestling. In BJJ the important part is that he has contact with the opponent when he sits down (called "pulling guard") once he's down if the opponent breaks the grip doesn't mean he can just run away. Now he's on top, he needs to try to pass the guard.
@@smacktard6051 "Oh Taekwondo won't work because they can only kick" "Oh Karate has rules so they can't go to the streets" "Oh BJJ guys need to know when to stand up." "Lol a Judo guy will throw me on the ground and call it a day?"
Martial Arts have rules to be used in training, sparing, and tournaments with referees. Obviously, in a street fight, the following will happen: Taekwondo fighters will use punches; Karate will disregard the 'rules' such as no kicks on the face, BJJ will throw you in the ground and use illegal techniques (a.k.a they will break your foot/hand if you try to break out of a submission), and Judo guys will throw you in CONCRETE/ASPHALT ground.
Martial Arts CAN and WILL kill. In Vietnam War, a few South Korean troops engaged againts Vietcongs. When both sides ran out of ammo, they engaged in melee. Turns out that if a Korean using combat army boots kicks you on the face, you will indeed die! (Taekwondo was used by Korean Army back then)
It is like Jesse said at the end. Just because in a Boxing ring there are rules, doesn't means that a Boxer won't break a rib or two if you attack him while screaming "WHEN I SEE RED ITS OVER, STREET FIGHTING FOR THE WIIIIN!". The tradition of Martial Arts (Martial = military) was to kill. Nowadays, they made it safe to use as a sport but if you break certain rules, it is still lethal. That is why referees stops a match when needed. A UFC/MMA fighter who goes limp and attacking anything infront of them is already unconscious. That is when the referee jumps in to stop a death.
@@smacktard6051I’ve worked in law enforcement settings and I knew nothing but BJJ and on a 1 on 1 BJJ when applied correctly will result in you being done for. This was a white belt tournament. Most blues or purples will grab you and not let go. You are going to end up on the ground unless you run away.
@@mafia_boss_netowrote all that to say BJJ is the worst base for martial arts and does nothing in real life.
I'm going to enter a karate tournament and just back away when they try and strike...and then tell people karate doesn't work
Your opponent will leap the distance and kick/strike/throw you.. and then it works.. if you decide to and successfully block/counter.. then it works..
@@_vashy__ Then ill run
@@Mystiq... Exactly like this video is so stupid. he is running away from the fight. It is the equivalent of entering a competition for a different martial art and the just sprinting away as soon as the fight starts.
the reason this video is warranted is that BJJ has gained way too much cred as the "best" martial art for practical use
whether it's the best martial art for any particular competitive event (mma, or whatever) largely depends on the rules used.
I didn't see anyone trying to run away. What I saw is 2 guys, one laying on the mat out of nowhere, trying to pull his opponent down, when the opponent didn't do him the favour and received a warning for that. As I said in my original comment, this is just ridiculous and pathetic 😂😂😂
thanks for making the content both informative and friendly, also some good vibes with "I'm the best around" song...original!😄
In the 80's when asked "what martial art is best to protect yourself " a Master answered: " first avoid confrontation,second run if you can ...but if you can't do that do anything that is illegal in Martial arts ...in street fights there are no rules" .
The only rule when fighting for your life is to win.
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six
"POCKET SAND!" -Dale Gribble
Amen.
"Quick draw"
Running through the streets pulling guard was the funniest thing you could have done! 🤣🤣
No real bjj fighter is pulling guard in a fight. I promise you that. He went in the white belt division trying to prove something. What a joke
@@KizokuOniiUzumaki yeah I've seen a lot of street fights and been in them many times, never once saw someone pull guard and say come on bro let's fight lol
He was just screwing off and joking.@@KizokuOniiUzumaki
Yes, it was EPIC
@@KizokuOniiUzumakiDoesn't change the fact that BJJ is a joke.
This is actually freakin hilarious 😂😂. Subbed
I love your style of video editing! The comedy parts are mad entertaining, subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
If you want to prove it works in a tournament,follow their rules.
If you want to prove it works in a real fight,go on the street.
Pishhhhhh what you gonna do samurai?
@@x3sixty make a video of proving that boxing doesn’t work by using a gun with a thumbnail of “proof->🖐️😳🦶🤚”
@@brown3722yes do it
If you wanna be stupid, write stupid comment.
@@x3sixty as long as weapons aren't allowed inside of the octagon you will keep your mouth shut
I really like the comparison between BJJ and Karate’s modernization and what it’s done to the art
Sad but true 🥲
same with taekwondo!
Unfortunately it is happening to judo!
Sorry@@amirreza_neyestani Judo as always been a sport, it was never intended to be anything else.
@@pauloviegas9918 Yes. But consider that this happened twice, once when Jigoro Kano introduced it and once when IJF removed the foot techniques from it.
Grabbing the baby for a roll had me dead💀😂
The training montage!! Awesome! 😂
"This was not part of the plan. Luckily, my opponent gives me his leg. So, I try to break it." Never change, Jesse. Haha
Maybe I should have read the rules 🤔
Ya it looked like that ankle lock would've worked if the ref didn't stop him but they have those rules so the new students don't get hurt because they are most likely not on that level to defend yet cuz they haven't learned those defences yet. I'm a BJJ guy and that looked like you had a solid grip on his foot and would have broke it cuz he didn't know how to react to the move. Definitely would've got him in a street fight. But he's brand new tho.
@@KARATEbyJesseya should have done the helicopter and flung him 10 feet when ya had his leg thats what i do and the look on their face is priceless 😮
Ya like bbj looks seriously stupid when one guy wants to beat you up and the other wants to sit down first
@@KARATEbyJesse what that ref doesn't realize is there's no rules in a real street fight, in a real street fight there's no ref saying you can't break his leg or that you'll be disqualified if you don't go down to the ground. You really showed them you kept it real great job!👌👍
That's why its important to be well rounded in mixed martial arts . Different situations call for different techniques
Yeah they usually recommend you learn 3 different styles for different ranges.
wrong, the best technique is to avoid fighting in the first place.
The 27 pounds of C4 strapped to my chest:
You missed the part where you only need this if you're a cop trying to immobilize others.
spoken like a true coward@@mikatu
this is the best video on martial arts ive seen in a long time
“If it starts to rain, my plan may not work”………..😂😂. Just make sure it’s not raining when you get into a fight
As a brazilian, I always thought it was kind of obvious you're not supposed to jiu-jitsu your way out of a street fight.
kinda obvious* kkkkk
@@mecobrabo5590thats not a correction, he wrote it properly. "Kinda" is just colloquial language.
@@Joyboy0101 yes i know
@@mecobrabo5590 So what did you mean by it?
@@Joyboy0101 just a tip bro, calm down
The match ending with your opponent casually letting you mount him was hilarious
First, it was hilarious. Second, Jesse is a very experienced martial artist going against a white belt who probably has a few months of training, I am not surprised how things went.
He was exhausted from trying to drag me down for so long
You mentally exhausted him as well.
@@KARATEbyJesseis there no kicking, punching in BJJ? Does it always have to be on the ground?
That's stupid if that's the case. Not reality.
People watch MMA/UFC because almost everything is allowed. It's more real.
@@KARATEbyJesse EXACTLY put all your weight on him he was spent.
The video I didn’t know I needed, and the video I’m happy to watch. Funny, entertaining, and educational. Thank you for the post !
Great video! A lot of important observations about modern martial arts in general here.
Reminds me of a documentary I watched about swords. This sword fighting master was fencing and he grabbed the other guy's blade. The other guy immediately said, "hey! You can't do that! It's against the rules!". To which the sword master said, "rules? I'm not worried about rules, I'm trying to kill you." 😂
This was a terrible conclusion bc BJJ is not something you use as a pure martial art or you will get hurt it is a supplement. It’s
Is extremely effective but you don’t use it alone it’s what you use on the ground and you NEVER want to be there but if you do this is what you do. Also he got destroyed when he went with people who actually knew bjj but when he went with the white belt who was obviously very green yea he was able to walk away. In a competition you use just that martial art sport is different than self defense. That’s like if you were boxing and ran away from the ring and when the ref made you come back you said the art was useless bc irl you could do that. Jesus loves you! “Come to me all you who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest.”-Matthew 11:28
LOL this comment reminds me of the "knife fight" between Butch and Harvey in the 1969 film Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid with Paul Newman, dam hilarious scene
@@grimeyhonkyracing3938 Reminds me of the scene "Sharpe Fights Wickham's Soldiers". The young thief Captain tries fighting Sharpe using the rules of fencing, and Sharpe has to give him new rules when it comes to actual combat.
@@landonbohinc8146The issue is for at least a decade BBJ has often been in the conversation of being one of the best material arts around the masses for self defense. It really is not so videos that show its flaws are needed especially in an era where sports BBJ is weakening BBJ as a martial arts for real life.
"A Karate black belt walks into a BJJ bar. Everyone else immediately lies down and wriggles towards him..."
There's a thing called take downs
Eww
@@MarvelStopmotion716 and BJJ practitioners suck at it
@@Dakahrii we don't and what do you do💀
@@Dakahrii plus were alright at take downs but we do know throws
The song is HILARIOUS! Then comes the baby on top of him. So funny. Got a LIKE for this.
holy crap! I didn't think that song could get any better but boy was I wrong!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST AROUND!!!
So this is actually an awesome video and take. I’m a multi-year BJJ practitioner and all three of the gyms I’ve practiced at all preached this as gospel. You don’t hang out on your back. You don’t pull guard in a self defense situation. In a struggle for self preservation you do everything in your power to keep your distance and keep mobile.
One thing that gets lost in communication is that proper Jiujitsu is not meant to be ground fighting. It’s meant to be surgical wrestling. BJJ modified it for maximum stamina efficiency which is why it focuses so heavily on ground work and being dangerous off of your back. However my coaches and most of the best practitioners like Roger Gracie preach staying off your back if you can at all help it.
I think the laying on the back tactic comes from sport BJJ. Doing that in an MMA match or a real fight is a bad idea. I think it's still good to know what to do IF you end up on your back though
@@PaMuShin you mean when the guy lies on his back to prompt the other fighter to get on top of him?
Thanks a ton. I've been rolling for 3-4 years and this makes a ton of sense.
Position before submission man
I know you guys all seemingly Train at amazing places but of the 6 places I've trained before, you still get the buttscoot special. It's how it is now. Even if it's not at YOUR school, when you compete that's what you're gonna get. Look at all the recent competition videos of 2023. Buttscoot and guard pulls overwhelm any good traditional grappling exchanges you'll find anywhere else. Everyone's looking for a leg or a sweep, or a stalemate. God bless the internet.
As a BJJ student, this is just embarrassing. I'd like to see a similar video for wrestling. A good wrestler is putting you on the ground whether you like it or not. 😅
yea the quintessence of grappling is imposing yourself physically on your enemy wether he wants it or not.
you are literally forcing him and bending him against his will.
but hey since you can "just stand up" if someone with his weak ass lapel grip pulls guard on you submission grappling isnt real lmao.
It's just white belt things, it probably wouldn't be the same even with a blue belt.
Yeah because wrestlers have a lot standing up game unlike bjj which 99% is laying down game
seen good wrestlers come in and smash entire jitsu tournaments, watch Bo Nickal first ever tournament LMAO... I have trained/competed in BJJ here in Tampa for three years and find it hilarious.
He should have gone to a grappling competition. His ass would certainly have been kicked quite faster.
Now I suppose there is a reason why he didn't show any of the subsequent fights in this tournament. His second opponent probably swept the floor with him 😂😂😂
"I entered cross country tournament to prove I can walk it"
But you would lose, and he didn’t
He really didn’t do much at all
Every part of this video was brilliant!!!! 🤣And the match at the end where he just stalls, gets a talking to, and then gets mount 🤣😂 Bravo! I've been training 12 years. I always tell my students: Just stand up, and Jiujitsu doesn't work.
“Of course it doesn’t work because I just stand up” 😆
I think that's why so many fighters now train in multiple styles. Bruce Lee talked alot about this when he was training. BJJ is amazing if you are in a locked box with one person. Out on the street the moment you goto the ground someone you never saw kicks you in the head.
You usually nonsense from people who've absolutely never Been in a street fight..
Guess what...without rules a BJJ fighter can...put you down and this might blow your mind...kick YOU in da heard too 😃..why didn't the fake in this video invite BJJ fighter's to a no rules competition? What's next enter a boxing competition kick the boxer to get a DQ then claim boxing don't work? Fair enough...say BJJ don't work then invite BJJ people to no rules contests...🤣🤣🤣. Show us how those "dEadLy" eye pokes work 🤣
@@billdoor3140 BJJ ONLY works in a 1v1 scenario, that's what he's saying.
@suckit4669 ot does. Let him prove it...don't enter a competition with rules then purposely break those rules to run away. Challenge BJJ people to a 1 v 1 mo ruled fight. Someone will absolutely accept. Then he can REALLY try his theory out...
I'm thinking BJJ is good to know when you are *already* on the ground but should mostly be used for disposing of the immediate threat so you can get back on your feet and switch back to something more suited for that position. For some reason I'm thinking of the fight between Indiana Jones and sword guy he shoots; play to *your* strengths, not *their* rules.
Realistically in a "actual fight", the strategy should always be either "end the fight now" or "get into a better position" (both of which can often be accomplished by running away).
@@suckit4669 wtf, he said :BJJ is amazing if you are in a locked box with one person:
1v1 scenario...
Also as the guy above said, BJJ is crazy, they are trained to get u on the ground, and they WILL get u on the ground, no matter what, it all comes down to WHO can win on the ground between both (1v1 scenario) cuz the guy on video was following rules just like him when the refereer told to grab, the other guy couldn't use moves and do certain things that could disqualify him.
I might be here the victim of confirmation bias. This was a very nice video to prove your point, simple, straightforward, plus entertaining. Thanks!
Man Jesse summoned the whole BJJ army with that title
The training montage is so hilarious!😂 well done!
I agree!
Lol the part with the baby 😂😂
My background is in judo. In today's world, all martial arts are essentially just for sport and to preserve knowledge/culture. Martial artists are athletes and historians. There are way too many weapons out there, especially in the US, to risk getting into an actual fight with anyone.
Don't fight people (except for sport obviously) unless life and limb are already on the line.
Well sometimesw you don't get to choose. This is what you prepare for. Even if he has a weapon you are still much more likely to survive if you have trained real self defence. The most unplaned murders happens close up even with guns.
This was awesome thanks
Well that's why you learn more than 1 art to become well rounded. You also learn how to use weapons. Think about what the guy said in the video: jiu jitsu was made as a last resort if your weapon broke and you were taken to the ground. Before that, you have striking like karate/boxing to strike before being taken to the ground. Before striking, you have short melee weapons like knives and sticks. Before that, you have longer range weapons like guns and grenades.
All of these things fil a certain niche and serve crucial purposes and they're all important. Only a moron would become an expert with a gun alone thinking he'll never have to worry about a situation where the other guy has a knife or there's zero weapons and it becomes a slug fest or grappling.
That’s why it’s essential to study and master the mysterious art of Gun-Fu!!!
"Luckily, my opponent gives me his leg, SO I TRY TO BREAK IT" 😆😆😆
oh man :) soo much fun with your video, thanks :)
That training montage was pure gold
You mean my singing especially right?
@@KARATEbyJesse No! That baby totally had you!
I'm considering making it my ringtone xD
"I'm the best around" 😂😂😂
Great stuff, thank you for the vid.
One big weakness of BJJ is that appearantly the capabilities of a white belt against black belts of other arts is what determines it's efficacy.
Well said!
"I was pinned by brown belts so then I beat a white belt to prove my point" lol what
how much karate did this guy use in the match?
@@michaelheber2073 It's not something you can point your finger too. Every blackbelt worth their salt will just have some general experience, body control (balance, coordination) and solid basic techniques foundation that outperform anything any whitebelt can pull off.
karate has no ground work@@Alkis05
This is so funny i was laughing the whole video ❤😂
"Bro, buy me dinner first" lol
Even when proving a point and being serious Jesse comes across as such a nice man.
I don’t take myself seriously, I take martial arts seriously! 👊
He and his brother are a true shinobi (martial gentemen).
@@KARATEbyJesse then show how effective these techniques are against an experienced grappler.
@@KARATEbyJesse damn man, I love that line
@@patrickmoler8025Sounds like the same line used by traditional martial artists who ask MMA fighters to fight some master up some mountain.
I took BJJ in school and it was 100% like an art / sport. You don’t challenge a guy in a bar to football, you play because it’s fun.
Take a painting class. Learn to fight.
@@MyFriendlyPup painting isn't a sport but okay? lmao
@@bigballuh1 he said BJJ is an art/sport. Learn to paint (art) learn to fight (sport) > BJJ
@@bigballuh1 you've mastered the art of missing the point
@@Tac0Tings given the title of the video and how some people percieve BJJ he could've been saying that BJJ isn't considered fighting and that he should take painting class for the art and learn to fight taking something other than BJJ but okay
Thank you for this video Jesse! :)
I love this video!! First one I've seen of the channel, just subscribed, but what a great demonstration!! I have always loved Japanese Ju Jitsu (stand up unless you get taken down by mistake or have to throw a sacrifice move). You can seem to find BBJ everywhere these days, but not very often a Japanese style club. So frustrating!
Welcome aboard!
@@KARATEbyJesse thanks! Currently binge watching 🙈🤣 have a great day 👍
Probably because most JJJ clubs don't spar properly with resisting opponents and sparring is where the real attraction for BJJ is. I did some JJJ at university and was a lot of learning moves and drilling them. Not nearly as much fun as the judo club (this was before BJJ was remotely a big thing here in the UK)
"I doubt that this is what the ancient samurai warriors had in mind" part was pure fire😂😂😂😂😂😂
As always, beautiful content and solid storytelling. More power to you Sir Jesse !
BJJ not JJJ
Hand or had?
@@mugnuzyou must be really smart
@@skooskipotato3750 no pls hand over your smartness to my mind i cant handle beeing dumb
.. :(
a lot of martial arts end up being more like rules to a game than a form of effective combat.
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Yeah let’s not make any rules so every single training and competition somebody get broken bones or end up dying.
@@Callsigntitan 🤡
@@Callsigntitanwhy so angry man? I’m sure he understands why the rules are there
only effective one is boxing, sinces thats how u fight on streets, and is more effective when there is multiple fighters,
I came here because I saw the picture of the video and wanted tp say, that it looks fun to hang upside down like this
As a BJJ guy, I'm glad Jesse exposed a guard puller. I'd love to see him do a No-Gi tournament and see what wrestling feels like. Great Video!
He beat a Day 1 Guy, calm down.
@@JonwallachioI like how he did proceeded with the tournament as well. Got one win and got out of there. Jesse is such a bitch.
@@Chris_Does_Stuff no shit
I do not think so, keep in spinning it bjj people.
I did manage to solve some of the ghosting by putting off dlss ray rconstruction. When it was on it made judy and eve look 50.
Watching the nicest guy trying to be carefully arrogant is one of the most wholesome things that I've witnessed 😂❤️
I tried my best! 😅
You only beat one guy and you won the competition?
"10% of time time, is 100% of the time" - Your beginning statement in a nutshell, hehe.
I think this really highlights the idea that in order to be able to use Jiu-jitsu effectively you really have to try and work on your takedowns/throws/trips. This way, you're not relying on your opponent to engage with you on the ground, you force them to engage with you. And if your takedowns are solid then you engage on your terms. Great video!
"takedowns/throws/trips"
Maybe do some judo in addition to jiu-jitsu.
I think keeping it balanced with MMA, where both standup and rolling are practiced is optimal.
Right this guy is missing the point you take the fight to the ground where u are better look at Gracie in ufc 1 n 2
@@crazy10bears good jiu jitsu schools will teach judo, as both are 80% the same thing but the focus is different (you will have one ne-waza class a month in judo meanwhile bjj has ne-waza every day, but both share the vast majority of the moveset and in many of the instances they dont, its because it was removed but they used to). A good Jiu jitsu school will teach you at the very least the classic wrestling takedowns like double legs and single legs and also at the very least o goshi, seoi nage, o soto gari/o uchi gari and once youre more comfortable with takedowns stuff like ashi guruma/tai otoshi or harai goshi/uchi mata
problem is some judo throws are hard with no gi and others you dont finish in good positions for ne waza, but since they sahre the same moveset a LOT of judo throws lead into guard passing, control positions, armbars, etc that you can set up even before you even finish falling
@@crazy10bearsif you want to be effective in gi do judo most effective in no gi do wrestling
I see your point. Some bjj practitioners practice zero take downs which is sad, but you entered in the white belt division my friend. It would’ve went way different if you competed against a black belt. Probably even a blue belt
For sure even a blue belt so long as the blue belt is size, I'm 4 stripe white belt and saw a LOT of beginner mistakes on this fight and I think I can tap Jesse.
Why is no one talking about that montage?! so good haha
You didn’t prove anything, you grappled a white belt 😂
Do the popular black belts perform differently? Outside of MMA and excluding folks with an MMA history, which ones don't pull guard?
@@CalebDiTthey pull guard against other black belts. Would easily take down jesse without trying
@@cjpearce1407 The outcome would have been the same. Anybody who pulls guard has made himself a target and/or has disengaged from the fight. Stay away from him and he's powerless. Kick him and he's bruised _and_ powerless.
@CalebDiT 2 points
A. If someone purple belt or above pulls guard on you then you ain't gonna be able to just stand up
B. Have fun kicking and giving up your leg to someone who can do leg locks lol. Easy wrestle up
I hear you. If an experienced grappler takes an inexperienced grappler to the ground, the inexperienced person is very likely stuck. I agree. That's not pulling guard, though.
Gordon Ryan, for example, pulls guard because he doesn't know how to effectively take people to the ground. He knows competition BJJ and nothing else, so after failing at some lazy foot sweeps, he invariably sits down and scoots around like a dog with worms. Bo Nickal proved it doesn't work, and Bo's experience is even further removed from martial arts than competition BJJ. The Gracies, also, did this against Sakuraba and have the very dark bruises to prove it doesn't work.
This doesn't even address the fact that pulling guard and pretending you're comfortable on the bottom doesn't work unless you're on a padded mat. On bottom, on concrete, you have seconds to gain an advantage before blood starts spilling out of your head, if it isn't already.
Bro, you entered a division where nobody really knows how to do any jiu jitsu yet 😂
And he trained a little bjj first.
I’m a grey belt an I beat orange belts and blacks
@@AlexanderJujitsu look at you!
@@AlexanderJujitsuWow you are the coolest person on this planet 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sure
Craig Jones (Bjj Legend) said that a lot of Jiu Jitsu cant work agaisnt you if you just stand up, of course the higher the level of the BJJ player the harder is to avoid going to the ground but you realized this with little to know training in BJJ And as a BJJ player I really respect that you entered a tournament to prove your theory, great video.
Against a white belt.....
@@Lockdown335
Bingo.
Theory is rendered moot.
It was obvious how green that white belt was to BJJ.
And yet he would have destroyed that white belt, even breaking his foot. A higher belt would be invincible? @@Lockdown335
Yes, about to comment. When I first started BJJ I tapped from a standing cross collar choke by a brown belt. Also if the white belt opponent was more experienced he would easily lift you with his leg and drop you into his closed guard. In summary try remaining standing with a higher belt and he may finish you on your feet or easily put you on you arse.
This is why someone who knows Judo and or Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu is the most dangerous. Judo is all about getting you to the ground.
I didn't think I'd enjoy this video this much 🤣
This whole thing is hilarious 😂
Haha. This is one of my favorite videos now man. It's so funny. The montage, the tournament and most of all, the narration. That's so funny. You're overqualified after your training to never go to the ground. 😂😂😂
Much appreciated!
really funny!
He's not overqualified for BJJ though. Quite the opposite.
@@BenNuProductions for the sport rule-set? He is probably underqualified. But for BJJ? He knows how to thwart it enough to render a lot of what people are conditioned to think of while training under strict BJJ ruleset as NULL and VOID.
BJJ isn't a miracle martial art. In fact take a BJJ guy and put him in a wrestling rule-set and you'll find that BJJ doesn't teach slam defense nor defense from manuvers such as a suplex.
What I'd like to see is a BJJ guy attempt Pankration. I don't think they are ready for those neck cranks.
But him saying that BJJ doesn't work because he ran away and refused to engage was like saying the boxing doesn't work because you ran away and refused to engage karate didn't work because you ran away and refused to engage and how does he win in the end he wins with the Jujitsu move and what was his plan to keep from going to the ground his brother taught him ways to escape so he had to learn some Jujitsu in order to counteract Jiu Jitsu and then to win he had to use Jujitsu and clearly this competition had a very narrow set of rules cuz you didn't see any arm drags throws you didn't see any shoot for the legs none of the things that would have taken him off his feet and put them on the ground regardless of how much he ran from you
I read an article by helio gracie, where he said that the self defence aspect of his art was being lost and if you look at his teaching syllabus from back in the day, there is at least 50% was standing techniques, armbars and throws, and ways to disengage from your attacker. Now it has become a sport, and many clubs don't even practice the self defence stuff any more.
and thats bad?
My Dad is second Dan Wado under Ray Coates (RIP). I'm a Judo and Jujutsu blackbelt. It's a shame to see how bad Judo and BJJ has become from the original teachings of the Valente Brothers and the Gracie family.
Interesting!
Yeh. The self-defense videotapes they had in the early 1990's was pure rubbish. They came to America and settled in El Lay at that time and brought something different to that scene. Problem is, everything else in El Lay was better at self-defense than what they did. Insofar as those matches they had in their studio, the problem was none of their opponents grappled, the ruleset forbade heavy strikes to end things and the worst part was that ridiculous mat that you couldn't stand on. If you watch their self-defense vids, you'll see that a lot of it was warmed over stuff that was present in a lot of other programs prior to the Gracies arriving in El Lay. They just copied a lot of it but never really knew how it worked.
@@captainkirk7513 When a self defense combat art is turned into a spectacle yes it's bad. The whole idea of it is to defend yourself from attack in unarmed combat. Now it's just a sport for people to watch in the UFC and honestly even in the UFC the most impressive and crowd pleasing wins are by KO from strikes.
The best around montage had me ☠️
My only argument is that you went up against another white belt who wasn't proficient in takedowns. However, when you were training with higher belts, you weren't able to "just stand up and walk away." Having said that, i do agree that a lot of modern bjj moves are meant to enhance the "game" and could probably be nolified by simply standing up and disengaging. Great video and perspective!
If he wanted to train with someone good at takedowns he would go to a Judo championship...
A counter argument could be made that equal level belts/equal level experience could manage to walk away from each other, since they have the same knowledge.
Then again, I'd also assume that they'd know how to get a real good hold, so, maybe not?
It'd actually be interesting to see! A cool experiment
A white belt is still a novice when it comes to BJJ…There’s levels to the game and that’s why some wrestling is super important as well.
Every fight you avoid is a fight won.
100% lol
I really wans't expecting it. I thought you'd go the safe way and have some kind of everybody's right conclusion. I think it's great you "dared" to give your real opinion. This video was very entertaining, you may get some backlash out of it, but please keep doing things like that.
Just doing what I love 🙏
There will be backlash because he said bjj doesn’t work but entered a 6 month and under white belt tournament. At least face someone of equal experience to yourself in a tournament. Bjj worked just fine in UFC 1 and 2. The only thing that has changed now is that professional fighters know bjj and how to counter it. Someone on the street with no experience will easily be beaten by bjj.
@@SP-hs6bj Yes, it worked in UFC within the confines of cage and rules. No kicking opponent in head on the ground, no hitting groin, no small joint attacks etc. C'mon.
Ufc 1 and 2 had no rules except eye gouging. There were plenty of groin shots. One guy even bit Royce Gracie. It was as close to a real street fight as you can get without being illegal. Bjj beat everyone in a few mins. Go back and watch them for proof.
@@SP-hs6bj BJJ works on UFC coz it's a sport , even UFC 1 and 2 have some rules on it , now i'm not saying that BJJ not work at all , it still does but only to a certain degree coz in real fight where anything goes nobody are hugging and struggling that long , it only happens in sports
funny and truthful. plus real battles involve atleast some kind of striking. this guy rocks and he is a bullshido terminator.
Thank you, Jesse Enkamp! I agree with you!
What i find kind of annoying is when those BJJ guys from the gym later go around saying "We had a black belt Karate master come in, we all toyed with him, it was easy" and they do it all the time.
@@dhfonzYou mean, they would just go lie down and refuse to get up? Though, to be fair it's hard to strike someone who is already on the ground.
Luckily then bjj class I go to during the competition classes we would do takedown only rounds
@@gbormann71Except for Sakuraba.
I would love to see how well you could defend against takedowns from those first three guys you sparred with.
That’s what I’m sayin. He entered against white belts. I couldn’t take anyone down for years after starting bjj. A blue or higher would probably rag doll him. He’s also very experienced in karate and that gives him some combat experience. Bjj destroys people with no experience and he would be a fish out of water against someone with half his karate experience.
guys it was all a joke. he was proving that he was wrong in the first 3 minutes. the rest was a joke. @@SP-hs6bj
They could also be punched in the face while trying.
@@testingstuff5942 Sure, but very unlikely. I think the term is "puncher's chance"? We all have that chance, but it is like 1%.
I always love this line. As if only one side would be throwing hands once that started.
Enters a dedicated grappling tournament, refuses to engage in grappling....... Decides this means bjj doesnt work. Absolutely flawless logic.
I'm a bit baffled, do you know if this video is sarcasm/comedy? I watched like 1 minute and already can't believe they mean what they say there
I mean bjj surely also teaches way to BRING your opponent to the ground and not expect him to cooperate right?
@@thereita1052Buddy. This is tournament BJJ. The goal is to score points, not win a fight. He sat on the floor under the assumption that he would be fighting somebody in a BJJ tournament that would try to win a BJJ tournament, not run away from engagement like a tard.
@@keok7934 so bjj Is just a commericalized sport like karate. Ok👌
@@keok7934He could just make him participate by bringing him to the ground forcibly. He couldn't although he tried, because he doesn't train takedowns.
this made me laugh haha great video
Always love when Jesse takes on other martial arts!
Glad to hear!!
@@KARATEbyJesse Jesse when you want to sparring again with wing chun practitioner?
Try Dominic Izzo or Adam Chan. Dominic Izzo excel at forward pressure in wing chun and Adam Chan good at body mechanic. Despite Kevin Lee popularity, he doesn't have that forward pressure aspect or body mechanic aspect of wing chun. Kevin Lee is good but he lacks at something. Again, try Dominic Izzo or Adam Chan.
I really like Adam Chan, but I dislike the "become war" opinion of Dom izzo.
In Europe best you can try in Wing Chun is Cord Elsner I think so far. 🙂
@@KARATEbyJesse yea we have some karate black belts who get ragged dolled during sparing. Try challenging someone with experience next time vs some noob begginers at a tiny local tournament. Put on a blue belt and enter a ibjjf tournament like worlds or PANS and you will get absolutely slapped. Ill be at both in 2024 middle weight.
Let me know when he takes on other martial arts as opposed to a single middle aged white belt
I’ve been trying to articulate this point for years ( even as a BJJ practitioner ). You finally did it. Thanks for this masterpiece!
se você acha que ele conseguiu provar o ponto dele lutando contra um faixa branca tu só é burro mesmo
but he had to literally train in BJJ to figure out how to stop a BJJ guy from keeping him down
You can't be that good if you think this guy knows what he's talking about. I've had people try to run from me. It does not work. As soon as i grab you, if you are not ridiculously strong, or know what you are doing you are fucked.
@@natman2939that's not the point he's making tho
get the correct point together... are you talking about white bjj tourment where its implicit someone is going to go to the ground or a bar fight not ending in the ground?
a abr fight have tables, chairs, people where you are certanly going to step on and go to the ground....just one of the many reasons a fight will go down.... but if you are talking about the tourment, even against a white belt, just tell him in advanced that you will not go down and see the result...or try a black, then say the results :)
I love this video. Well done sir.
*fight begins*
*lays down*
"What are you doing?"
This was straight up hilarious, I feel a bit bad for the guy just sitting on the ground desperate for you to play along with him 😆
That made me laugh too, I learnt judo at a very young age and now I'm an adult the last thing I want to do is wrestle on the floor with men 🤣🤣 he did right to stay on his feet, as that's where he feels more in control.
Hahahaha.....And he lost to Jesse
What's the point of entering a jiu jitsu tournament if you're opposed to the idea of grappling on the floor?
In judo, you also wrestle on the floor with men.
@@marksanchez7323I think you missed the whole point of the message....
Don't play the other person's game when you are in a real fight. Second, there is no striking in this style unless you go back to the original founding. Third, this type of fighting is last resort. Either the strongest will win, or the most skilled will generally win the fight.
I do believe however if Jesse would have just when to the floor, it would have been over very quickly. Dragging it out and allowing the guy to exhaust himself allowed for a decisive quick victory at the end.
Craig Jones has an instructional called "just stand up" 😂. But a lot of BJJ practitioner forget that throws, takedowns and wrestling are a vital tool in your BJJ, that way you can take the fight to where you want it to be
Please stop saying BJ this is a family friendly platform
@@zug3226BJJ is the abbreviation of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, and has nothing to do with BJ. Are we just supposed to not use acronyms because they're sorta similar to a different term? What about organizations like the World Taekwondo Federation, the WTF, are we just not supposed to use abbreviations?
Please tell me you’re joking?
They’re not saying BJ, they’re saying BJJ. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Not where *your* mind is going.
@@zug3226shut up.
They forget the roots and where they got their BJJ from > Judo > Jujutsu
The ending was hilarious
Jesse has such a great attitude mixed with humor and education.
Ok hear me out on this.
Jesse is a super chill dude that learns from every martial art and who's brother is an MMA fighter, so he's obviously knows the basics of BJJ.
I think he is showing that modern sport BJJ should not be considered as self defense or at least the only way to end a street fight, because many factors make it really dangerous to drag your oponnent to the ground.
Edit: so I made this comment for people who like to type before watching the whole video or people who take comments to seriously, also a reason I am not responding.
I don't know of any serious jiu jitsu practitioners who promote jiu jitsu as a complete art for self defense. Even Rener Gracie, who goes perhaps the farthest in this direction of anyone of whom I'm aware, specifically rejects sport jiu jitsu for this purpose, instead teaching a body of technique specifically for self defense.
Not everything Jesse says here is invalid, but this video oversimplifies the issue almost to the point of meaninglessness. Showing one match with a novice white belt who can't establish grips, has no takedown ability, and doesn't fully understand the purpose of pulling guard--this reveals very little about the effectiveness of jiu jitsu in street situations. Regardless, I'd be very surprised if any serious jiu jitsu instructor anywhere advised people to pull guard in a street situation.
I couldn’t agree more, and I could explain for days why I never tried to learn jiu jitsu or focused nearly as much on grappling, and primarily stuck to striking. In hindsight, I wish I would have paid more attention to my grappling, because I’ll admit I’m not great at it, I’m a far better striker. But it’s mostly because striking and clinching just always worked better for me than overall submission.
Never compare sports with street fighting - there is a huge difference! especially because of the danger of weapons that can be in play on the street -.... Anyway, I managed to end all my street fights with the effective use of judo "anti-strike counters" and send him to sleep with a choke hold - done.
it's not that hard if your opponent doesn't know about your skills....
you can also end it with an unexpected punch to the throat (or the famous nutcracker lady high knee), but that has a high potential to seriously injure someone, in the worst case even kill them, like most punching techniques - so I would always avoid it -.
BUT to the point: effective street fighting is fast, dirty.
NOT to defeat someone
BUT TO BUY TIME TO RUN AWAY -
it also depends on your will to really hurt someone ... if it is necessary (...most people are NOT READY for it !!! - if you are not ready
- DON'T FIGHT, - RUN IF POSSIBLE, GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT IF NOT)
and so at least there is no real need for martial arts on the street.
- a few trained basics and the will to use them are enough -
in MMA sport it depends on soooo much more, BUT mainly on the fact that one compensates his individual disadvantages in the fight -
means since these are indiv. you can't say you absolutely must have more than one style if ONE already fits to compensate for your weaknesses, go and perfect them techniques or go for quantity if it suits you better COMPETITION SPORTS ARE WON MUCH MORE BY SPIRIT THAN BY A HIGH NUMBER OF TECHNICAL SKILLS .
It way better for women getting raped though - that’s the point
@@EvanMcLaren I’d have more faith in a “sports jiu jitsu” black belt world champion defending themselves on the street than someone who went to a gracie self defence school and got a blue belt based on attendance lmfao. everyone acts like someone’s gonna pull guard and try to berimbolo someone in a street fight which just doesn’t happen