If that’s what you want, do what you want. I don’t understand the point of owning a plane like that. I fly to go places airlines don’t fly. Grass strips under 500’ are common for me. Anywhere you can fly that, I could just fly commercial. Commercial doesn’t go where I do.
Save the 310 is changing to Sell the 310. Pay for the 421 is the new goal post. Auctions and Jimmy are not a good idea. Remember the Elvis jet? Jimmy got Rick Rolled. Unless you are going to charter it or place it in a club, I can't see owning it. The cost $$ per hour, the maintenance costs $$, the training and the incidentals will eat Jimmy alive. Jimmy will be plane-poor. Without a medical license and a chain of plastic surgery clinics, I don't see how it could pencil.
I stumbled into a part-time gig flying 2 C421Cs four years ago right after I retired from the Airlines. I had been flying Airbuses for the last 15 years or so and it was quite a change. I came from a GA background but hadn't had either the time or money to fly a light airplane since the early 90s. It was an education, and a lot of fun, too. What a wonderful flying airplane! Light, balanced controls, superb visibility, predictable, responsive handling. A true joy to fly. It took some time to get back into the underpowered piston mindset, but the guys I worked were patient with a HUGE pool of knowledge and were very helpful. I don't claim to be an expert in the 421 but I'll pass along some of the collected wisdom of thousands of hours in type flown by my guys. First, forget all the performance numbers in the manual. This thing uses a LOT of runway. We used to fly out of a 2800 foot runway with trees at each end with one of the 421s which happened to have a Robertson STOL kit. This helped, but getting the thing to 120 knots over the trees on takeoff (which gave us a margin of 9 knots over Vyse of 111) was exciting with both engines turning and 1000 pounds under gross. The downside of those big, beautiful props? They produce a lot of drag if they're not feathered. I was advised that if I lost an engine early on takeoff to just feather the dead engine and secure it later. If not, just cut the good engine and land and fly it into something soft. Not how we're taught in flight school but good advice, I think. Second, those engines produce a lot of heat. In order to get the climb numbers Cessna publishes, they advise climbing at 120 knots. We never did this: the engines just get too hot. We usually climbed at 130 minimum, often 135 or 140 if it were summer. Climb performance takes a beating because of this. Third, because of this, we seldom operated this thing above 10,000 feet. For us, the beating the engines took wasn't worth it. They are VERY expensive to replace. I've gone as high as 13,000 to clear some weather and was light at the time, but climb performance was less than 500 fpm at 135 indicated, well below gross. And you never want to sit on the ground on a hot day awaiting takeoff. I was surprised to find no cowl flaps and watched the oil temps sitting right below redline. Very nerve racking. We babied these engines and they always made it to TBO when we would replace them regardless of compression, if only for the gearbox. Fourth, brakes. They seemed to be an afterthought in this a/c. Really terrible. We could get it stopped in under 3000 feet easily but you couldn't carry 120-125 to the fence. Like a lot of airplanes landing on short runways, once the field was made you needed to slow it below blue line-- there would be no single engine go around. The Robertson was better at this, obviously. Last: the gearbox. There was a lot written about this airplane in the 70s when operators were watching the gear boxes self-destruct. Come to find out this thing doesn't like zero-thrust. You either need the engine driving the prop or the prop driving the engine. It makes an unusual warbling noice that your experienced instructor will point out to you as you approach the flare; that's when it's time to chop the power and fly it on like a C150. You can avoid this by dragging it in but that takes some practice and it's easy to get too slow. We used to flight plan 50 gph and would get around 47 gph at 7 to 10 thousand feet, 185 to 190 TAS, 65% power. Nice and quiet, 2000 foot cabin. Get good training, maintain it well, fly it into 4000+ foot strips, stay current and you'll love this airplane. And take the cowling off regularly and have a look. You know about surprises.
I love, love, love my 421C, 1976 vintage. Yes, it is expensive, but it is worth it IMHO! I am a strange guy, minus the expense, I enjoy working on mine and watching it blossom. I have a G600 Autopilot in my near future. I currently have glass, G600TXi, GTN 750xi, GI-275, GWX-75 (Digital Wx Radar). Being a 35 year airline pilot, I wanted an airplane with some umph. People will say you are spending too much money, but when you look at the range, altitude capability, engine out performance, seats, etc., you know you have a very capable machine. It isn't an airliner, so be careful in icing, and make sure you are rested, it's a hot rod. Thank you for your wonderful videos, I love your enthusiasm and the quality of video productions! Much love coming from the West Coast my friend!!!
There are some good videos that explain average ownership costs broken down by fixed and variable costs. The nuts and bolts of what I've read suggest it costs on average of $50-$60k per year with a per flying hour cost of roughly $450/hr. I'd imagine most people who own these have at least $75-$100k in an "oh shit the plane is broken" fund because, as Jimmy explained in this video, every-single-thing is extremely expensive to work on. Adding pressurization to the equation is another ridiculous expense.@@RaceMentally
@@TheMarkgarrett you do realize that doesn’t apply to everyone I hope. Be a little more open minded. Having 4 planes, 2 sand cars that are $300k each and cost just over $100k annually to maintain, $275k stacker to house them and a $850k motorhome. I think your chump change comment doesn’t even stack up to my lifestyle. Don’t get me started on my place and boats in havasu and Michigan. Peasant…
Please, Jimmy go get some training at a reputable Sim class, I have a couple thousand hours in 421C,B,A. You won’t believe the difference flying in a pressurized cabin, how quiet it is, and you lose all sense of how fast you’re going unless you’re constantly looking at your airspeed in the pattern, straight in approaches are great, watch out for that turn from base to final, once you figure it out, it’s a awesome airplane, flew across the country many times in 421s, most as corporate trips, some charter, and a fair amount, part 91 for maintenance checks, make sure you thoroughly understand how the starters operate and how to start those engines when it’s hot. 421WC was my favorite, wish you luck with being the caretaker of your new project,
I completely agree here. I have worked on them and did a few MX flights. This is completely different than anything you have shown on your channel. The GTSIO engine is different as well. Gear slap is something to be concerned about. The pilot I did the work for kept the prop “loaded” and had the mentality he would like to replace brakes more often than an engine overhaul for the gear in the engine.
Highly agree professional training from a flight center with level D sims. Initial training to 135 ATP standards with a check ride. I would highly recommend 135 standards for you and the plane. I wish you the best with your new plane and sound risk management. PS just curious did you consider a Navajo or any other cabin class airplane?
@rebuildrescue Jason look at these videos carefully and see how a professional repair shop works unlike a bunch of amateurs!!! You won't see any cabin windows installed with screws and nuts. TAS actually owns and knows how to use rivet guns!!!
Nice looking airplane Jimmy. Glad you have a very knowledgeable mechanic there to show you the pros and cons of purchasing a Cessna 421 Golden Eagle. The fuel tank issue Tony mentioned is indeed a big deal. This situation claimed the life of a friend of mine and two of his buddies. He was flying a 1975 Cessna 421 to the Bahamas for a nice weekend getaway. They found a fuel leak and thought it was coming from the fuel sump. A mechanic where they rented this 421 from replaced the sump valve and thought that fixed the problem. They flew the plane from South Carolina to Florida to refuel before heading off to the Bahamas. They arrived in the Bahamas with no problems. When they were getting ready to leave, he had the FBO there top off all the tanks. Apparently there was a fuel leak, but it was not caught on his preflight. Shortly after take off, the right engine caught on fire. He tried to turn the aircraft around, but the right wing melted off the airplane before he could complete his turn. The plane crashed into a heavily wooded area. It took first responders 20 minutes to get to the crash site. By then, the whole plane was engulfed in flames. There were no survivors. This happened 5 June 2018 in Rocksound, Eleuthera, Bahamas. The NTSB ruled the accident as pilot error because there was really nothing much left of the airplane for inspectors to investigate. Sorry to end on a sad note, but corrosion is a common problem on 421's that have the fuel tank behind the firewall. It sounds like you have a great mechanic there that is aware of the problem and knows how to correct it so the new owner does not end up like my friend and his buddies did in the Bahamas. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
there is a report on a 421 crash in Rocksound, Eleuthera on June 5, 2018. While the NTSB participated, the investigation was conducted by the Air Accident Investigation Dept. of the Bahamas. The findings differ somewhat from your recollection. Of interest is it states "There was no evidence of airframe or system malfunction prior to the accident." They did a very thorough investigation based on the report.
@@skyboy1956 Yes, that is the Cessna 421B Golden Eagle that crashed that my friend Todd Crawford was flying on 5 June 2018. He was a Commercial rated pilot with years of flight experience. The local authorities report on the accident is a little more informative on what happened including videos of the accident scene over the NTSB report.
Maybe just convert that into storage/not have the tank at all? It seems like Cessna kind of did a kludge there. One option I saw as well was an air conditioner in that space? They evidently had several options for that "area" - but a fuel tank that close to the engine? I'd not want that. Yes, that would shorten the range some, but the main tank is about 200 gallons - a bit less less fuel isn't a game changer.
Not only have you inspired me to pursue Aeronautical Engineering, Jimmy, but your influence has also led me to become a Private Pilot. Now, I'm on the path to obtaining my commercial license. Thank you very much!!!!
Hey Jimmy - I spent a lot of time maintaining a stable of twin Cessnas when I was a tech in the 90s. It might be worth making sure the fuel injection is set up correctly. There is a lengthy procedure in the maintenance manual that will ensure the fuel injection system is tuned properly and that the engines are matched. The 421 was one of my favorite aircraft to work on. The GTSIO-520s sound so sweet.
After being able to take a very large item off my bucket list, I’m am happy like a little Kid with a new puppy that you’re getting the 421c, it’s been a journey and not everything has went the way you planned, but you’re getting there, be careful,God Bless, really enjoy your channel
421s are great, but be very careful with the engines. You will like the smoothness and the quiet cabin thanks to the low RPMs…the RAM conversion puts on the winglets.
Nice Jimmy, I am just an air tanker pilot so a 340 is as high up the ladder as I’m going to go. You will love the plane as long as you can hang with the money. But if you have to ask….you probably can’t afford it. Have fun and be careful. The big twin Cessnas are a joy to fly! You are a rock star Jimmy!! I highly recommend Aircraft Simulator Training in Burnet Tx for your annual insurance mandated training. Rick and his crew are the best. Simulators are top notch.
Canadian aircraft tech since 1975 and just recently retired from a corporate operation in eastern Canada. I cut my teeth on twin Cessna in my early years and love the sound of the GTSIO. Looks pretty clean really so all the best with it mate.
Congratulations on the purchase! Maybe one you can come to Wichita and take a tour of our factory over in the westside facility. I've been there 23 years and love it. Thanks for the videos.
I got flight time in a functionally and aesthetically restored DC-3. I loved every minute of it and always looked forward to the next flight. So I am certain you are in for a wonderful treat. The previous owners got N421KM to this annual, now you are taking this lovely aircraft into the future. As Tony pointed out, we are not really owners but caretakers of these lovely highly capable machines. Also, I own a functionally restored antique car with decent original paint. I feel blessed and pleased every time I take my '85 Mercedes out.
I like Jimmy. He buys airplanes, works on them, flies (pilots) them, sells said aircraft and buys another one. (or five+?) That is cool-dogs! I'd like to work with the man. Good job Jimmy. Keep it up and thanks so much for sharing the chuckles and the heartbreaking troubles. Fly safe brother, James. Michigan.
Congratulations on your new bird. It will have the best possible prebuy inspection. When it comes to high altitude operations, especially in descent, you will find yourself in a new world but I know you will get the necessary training and have many rewarding flights in the 421C. At times ATC may not be quick to understand the operational limitations during a descent. I suspect you will employ an experienced 421 airman to ride with you as copilot until you are comfortable with all phases of operation. Smooth flying and thanks for sharing with us on RUclips.
Jimmie 50 yr A&P here Good luck on that 421! I hope you have a ton of money for that plane as it will use every dime you have even if your wealthy Those engines are delicate and with all the acc very expensive to run and keep running Get your single engine Op skills in order pls 😊😊
Jimmy, I’ve been watching you for several years now. I’m so excited about you buying a Cessna 421C. I’ve started reviewing and watching every video about the 421C. What an amazing aircraft. I came across an article that says, While RAM Aircraft has converted Cessna 421Bs and 421Cs with different engines and associated systems, only the winglet equipped version received a different designation, RAM/Cessna 421CW. Your purchase of this aircraft has got my heart racing, wishing I had gotten into twins when I was younger. I started with a 1954 Piper Tri-Pacer, then a couple of 182’s then a Cessna 205, the best airplane I ever owned. Due to age and health conditions, i no longer fly. Good luck with your new Cessna 421CW. I’ll be watching and living my life through your adventures. I can’t wait till you’re actually flying the 421CW. God Bless.
Winglets can only be put on the 421Cs without the trailing link. Basically gives them the 414A wing, which is longer than the standard 421C so it will be even more stable at altitude.
@@RicardoSalinasFournier The STC only applies to serial numbers before the trailing link was available. My guess is because it's similar to the 414A winglet STC, and the non trailing link gear on the 421C and 414A are the same I believe.
Love it. That's a bad ass plane with lots of usable upgrades. I think that's as good as it gets before going into jets. Enjoy with your family and good health for all.
Had the pleasure of flying a 421C for a client for a few years. Very nice plane, just mind those geared motors. Another very neat Cessna twin option when you get the need for more umph, is the Silver Eagle II; namely 340's with Rolls 450hp turbine motors. I have ferried a couple of them. Your top end is a smidge better than the 421, but the climb performance (3500fpm) is a blessing especially when you want to get through the weather with haste, which is a must in the winter over the Cascades. Enjoy your new ride!
I flew these a long time ago. An easy to fly, quiet, sweet handling beauty. Landings are a breeze on the trailing link gear (not there on this one??) If you’re the one paying the bills you’ll be handling the engines properly so they should be quite reliable.
The winglets are part of the RAM conversion. Glad you are getting training. It’s real easy to tear up the gear boxes on those engines. Always plan a cruise descent. Never, ever, ever, yank the power to idle and back-lash the gears. Smoothly to idle in the flare.
Agree. Replace the cross feed line if indicated. Several restoration experts who restored Onl Beech birds often replace old aluminum fuel lines on very old birds
The 421 is the plane for you, Jimmy. It's a workhorse. It's fast, sturdy, and has a good range for cross-country. I flew quite a bit (no, I didn't have one), with a friend, and I tell you, she's a real pleasure to fly. Good buy. Good winds and happy landings from Portugal 🇵🇹
Finally a plane up in here, what a beautiful 421C! Oh, also thank you for saving the 310 and making a great job of it and taking the time to walk us through the whole story! I enjoyed every bit of it and I'm so happy to see this! It seems saving the 421C is a whole other level! Wow! Amazing airplane tho'
I left policing to pursue aviation. I’ve got a spot in Southwest’s 225 program. You best believe when I get some in at the airlines that I will be purchasing an aircraft for myself. When people understand that money doesn’t go with us then you can remember to breathe a little more. Enjoy yourself and the time you have left!
I work with an AG operator based in KDFI. I get to watch those twin Cessnas take off all day long and have probably seen this exact plane out before. Love to see you in the area and maybe I'll get to meet you one of these days out there!!
Congrats on 421! Such an awesome and capable plane. Flew in one that a family friend owned a bunch of times. Word of advice, be mindful on the hot starts, they can be a real biotch to get going.
I was hoping you get the aerostar ! Talk about a rocket ship!! I've heard some pretty interesting stories of adventures in 421's. One of which was icing conditions. The front boots on the wings were inflating and keeping the ice clear, but the boots on the horizontal stabilizer had stopped working. Unable to visually inspect that part of the plane while inside, when they went to flare in the landing there was very little elevator authority due to the ice, so the landing was quite harsh. Since its such a tank and built so well, even with the ice, on the stabilizer, it even functioned fairly well outside of its engineered use. Keep safe and rubber side down.
My grandfather had had 310 that had gear issues which resulted in a nose gear up landing. It had just been picked up from the shop after being gone through before we were going to take it on a trip. My grandfather always had his airplanes fully checked and would test fly them a few days before taking a trip and the shop didn’t pin the gear correctly which is what caused the problem. He also owned a 421 Ram Air, 414 Ram Air and a 340 Ram Air. To me his 340 always looked like it was hauling ass even sitting on the ground. I always enjoyed getting to fly with him and really miss it. He had many more airplanes some even quit a bit bigger and faster and much higher flying than the previously mentioned.
Looks like you found your perfect aircraft Jimmy! Hope your avionics upgrades, etc. don't break the bank! It's going to be fun watching the adventures!
HI Jimmy. You will love the 421. (Just don't look at your check book! Ha!) I had a 76 C model for many years. With three kids and 2 dogs, it was the best family airplane you will find. Tony did all the work on mine and is the Best! You will not go wrong there. Enjoy!
After 3 years in Florida it will be a moldy Dust bucket unless you Hangar. And you will need at a minimum 44 x 38 ft to store , and that will run about $700-1K a month. and even then in Florida will only extend the corrosion time by a year or two. I recommend keeping it in the desert South west.
Could I interest you in a bucket of kitty litter and a scoop? Put it in the rear baggage next to the potty. You will thank me. Be sure to use the scented kind. And speaking of corrosion, is there a large enough hangar to keep that 421 in? I would hate to park it outside in FLORIDA!
Can you crack open a window after #2 ????. Kidding. How long does it take to change the air in the cabin? Pressurised that is. Folks started getting a lot sicker from catching stuff on a airliner when FAA dropped the rate to 10 minutes from 5. I realize it's a small plane, which brings us back to # 2......
@@billwendell6886 NOBODY uses the potty on my airplane.. number 1 or 2.. aint happening.. i'll land and let the FBO facilities take that download.. no time or fuel constraint is going to make me break the seal on the onboard potty..
Don't worry, if I win the Powerball jackpot on Saturday night, I will bail him out. Heck, I might even buy him a Honda Jet. Just like the one I will buy.
Congrats on your purchase and looking forward to the restoration process. He is correct about corrosion being the disdain of the aviation field and I wish more owners took it seriously.
@alittletexasingeorgia Not all shops are as thorough as TAS and many aircraft have hidden corrosion that has been ignored for years until it is too late and the repair exceeds the valued of he aircraft.
Airplanes turn millionaires into thousandaires! Nice looking plane Jimmy. I hope it provides many safe fun trips for you and your family. Always enjoy your content.
Jimmy, I think you should buy the 421C. It really looks like a good deal,and you can fly your entire family in it. I say go for it and wish you the best, I love following your content. Marc F.
We had a 421 in the fleet for a bit. Good bird. Only gripe with it was the hardware for the exhaust and turbos were always coming loose. We were tightening them pretty often.
Ah my favorite airplane to fly. Spent many hours flying the 421 B, and 421 C models. They have a bad reputation for high cost to operate, maintain, and service. Most of the problems came from too many pilots not operating the plane as they should. This is an airplane that is best flown by one pilot! It does not like power and prop changes. Every change must be slow, and your flight profile must be well planned in advance. Pulling power and shock cooling the engines is a quick death to the engines. There is not another plane that is as sweet to fly with those geared engines and massive props. This airplane if it flown correctly will deliver lower cost to operate than a C414. I miss my C421, and it still is my number one favorite piston cabin class airplane ever made. Getting insurance will be a challenge for you and keeping currency. Let's see how this turns out.
@SI-lg2vp Couldn't agree with you more!!! I owned a 1976 421C, equipped very much like Jimmy's. Winglets, spoilers and VG's. I loved that airplane. Never had any issues with the engines. Took Simcom training, learned how to operate the GTSIO's.! The spoilers were a great addition for managing descents and speed. Wish I never sold it!!
I flew a 421B and lost an engine coming out of 19,000’. It flew very well on one engine another 30 mile for me to have a good landing at CAE. The engine threw a rod probably from a spun bearing and put a plum size hole in the case.
NO~~???? What have you done now? I have a honey do list today and yet, I feel compeled to see what disaster is looooooming now with Jimmys World..........When you get the 421 up and running, include a spray bottle of "Poo Be Gone" in that toilet region. ITS MAGIC! Triple AAA rating and besides that....it works! Home tested by moi! .
You really need to get into your GTSIO 520's operations. It operates differently then any non-geared engine. Power settings for take off and let down are critical to keep your cases from cracking. I highly recommend getting ahold of the STC that Scenic Air in Los-Vigus NV. used to operate there 404 Titans back in the 80's before they went to the Twin Otters. I was an A&P, IA, 135 Director of Maintains back then and we leased back one of the 404's to fly freight. The STC works so well that Scenic was able to increase TBO's by 500 hrs. It has been awhile for me now and I don't quite remember all the details but most important was the let down power settings to keep the engine from cooling to fact. Something about no more then 1 inch of manifold pressure reduction per one thousand feet of altitude. Loved the 421's myself, good luck.
@@therealjimmysworld it's going to be a great plane. Fast with the airframe mods and a good useful load since it's straight leg. It was priced in a way that any $ you put into avionics you will get back. I think vantage has carpet kits it just needs the bottom carpet and the interior will be great. Good luck on the annual.
If you have the money and can justify it and the 421 is considered 100% good I would say Do It! Don't forget to Polish the front and side Pilot windows and ceramic coat them if it is approved. Please do at least 40 hours of training in it if that is feasible for you. Then keep up with the hourly expense projections and Hangar the thing. Change the tail Number to N421JW and I think that number is available. That would be a good Tail Number for it. It would be a number that will help people know who the Owner is.
I do believe you made a good deal, especially with the people that are doing the inspections and repairs. At least you know you’ll have a good solid, reliable airplane when you’re done. And not to mention you get to see it hands-on while it’s open and inspections and repairs are being done. Maybe a little costly but you’ll come out in the end. The 421C models are very good airplanes.
@@robertthomas5906 I'd take the Beech 18 any day. BUUTTTT, with a wife and kids, the higher altitude, A/C, good heating and that indespensable little pottie makes for a much happier life for Jimmy on long flights. Granted, those potties are no luxury item and can be quite challenging, they do come in very handy on those long flights. Of course the potty is useless to Jimmy unless the right seat is occupied by an appropriately rated co-pilot.
He's going to need to get a whole lot more twin hours in the 421C with an instructor that has a lot of 421C experience before insurance will even talk to him about underwriting a policy. His time in the other twins he's owned is good and will count to a certain degree, but the 421 is in a whole other class of airplane. He also has to get a high altitude endorsement since the service ceiling of the 421C is higher than 25,000ft, if he does not already have one. I am only assuming he does not. The 421C is certified to just over 30,000ft.
Dear Jimmy…I’ve owned three twins, 2 TwinBonanzas, and Queen Air… Your 421 is top shelf ….with those turbo Rams and other complexity …you need a BIG go fund me page or deep pockets ahead. Safe Flying Captain!
But a new version of this same type of aircraft is.. 4-5 mil? The costs are indeed frightening but 100K a year for even 40(!) years is still cheaper than buying new. The thing is, one can't get the least bit lazy on spending that money. It'll be 100K a year pretty much forever. Deep pockets for sure... Note - the costs for a JET... yeah... 15-20x that per year. This is an expensive "hobby" but nothing like owning a jet. The channels where some DIYer buys a jet - it's like a train wreck in slow motion... lol. Money adds up so fast...
Jimmy while you have the nacelle apart and the fire wall partially removed ask Tony if the crossfeed lines were replaced with stainless steel. There is a Service kit for replacing them. Years ago when they had all the exhaust problems there were several fatal crashes where an exhaust leak burned a hole in the firewall and they ruptured the aluminum crossfeed lines. There is no way to shut off those lines once they are ruptured. If there is a fire it will burn until all the fuel tanks are exhausted. By then the fire usually burns through the spar and the wing falls off.
I have lots of time in one coming up the ladder. Good Luck !!!!!!!!!!!! And I suggest you find someone with good time in it to learn how to operate it!!!
Always interesting to see where people spend their airplane dollars. Adding winglets but not addressing corrosion? Glad it went to a great shop and it will be taken care of!
Jimmy. I owned a 310B for seven years then traded for a 310R. I flew it for 18 years . Tony at TAS did a lot of my maintenance. They are the best. Congratulations on the 421C. It looks like a keeper. They are very expensive to operate. Enjoy it while you can afford it. I am 81 now, and I sold mine because even with zero claims, 13,000 hours of accident free flying, and an ATP the premium had risen to over $12,000 a year. My advanced age did me in.
Yep, you have lost your mind! Have you priced overhauls on a GTSIO-520, assuming the engine makes TBO? Plan on six new jugs, a new spur gear for the gear reduction drive, all new lifters and a new cam, plus all the NORMAL wear items in a standard overhaul.
So excited for all the new "Jimmy's World" stories to come with this beauty. Butttttt it will be hard to say goodbye to the Silver Bullet. I've bought my stuff and really hoping I'm the lucky winner on the trip to the Bahamas. You should come up with all the "I bought this for this....", and sold for that so we can see how much fun you are having.... what's the latest with the "blue tarp special". The 421 has always been a favorite.... the speed deamons you were looking are cool to but when folks talk.... this one is the P51 of 70s to today "affordable " family aviation.... you are moving Jimmy's World up..... woooww... wooww..... 😅😎 Bob
I flew 421LC that used to be based at your home airport. Great planes. The key is always go high with them to get the speed for the fuel burn. We would get 22 a side in cruise.
I just thought I would let you know that my husband actually had the very first 421C with the winglets. His 421CW was the test plane for Ram Air in Waco, Texas. His N numbers were 26HE and he the Chief pilot for the west Texas division of Pizza Hut. He always enjoys watching your videos. My husband said you made the best purchase and you will really enjoy flying it.
Love the 421C!! I am looking forward to future flight videos. Follow another channel (Jerry Wagner), and he has a 421C. Like I said... Beautiful plane!!!
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$85,000 to replace $500 worth of parts that cost $5000
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Yelp , and that’s considered cheap . LoL 😂 👍
If that’s what you want, do what you want. I don’t understand the point of owning a plane like that. I fly to go places airlines don’t fly. Grass strips under 500’ are common for me. Anywhere you can fly that, I could just fly commercial. Commercial doesn’t go where I do.
i will not join... first stop selling the 310!
Well, how are we to know it is the cheapest 421C in the world if you don't tell us what you paid for it?
Save the 310 is changing to Sell the 310. Pay for the 421 is the new goal post. Auctions and Jimmy are not a good idea. Remember the Elvis jet? Jimmy got Rick Rolled. Unless you are going to charter it or place it in a club, I can't see owning it. The cost $$ per hour, the maintenance costs $$, the training and the incidentals will eat Jimmy alive. Jimmy will be plane-poor. Without a medical license and a chain of plastic surgery clinics, I don't see how it could pencil.
I stumbled into a part-time gig flying 2 C421Cs four years ago right after I retired from the Airlines. I had been flying Airbuses for the last 15 years or so and it was quite a change. I came from a GA background but hadn't had either the time or money to fly a light airplane since the early 90s. It was an education, and a lot of fun, too.
What a wonderful flying airplane! Light, balanced controls, superb visibility, predictable, responsive handling. A true joy to fly. It took some time to get back into the underpowered piston mindset, but the guys I worked were patient with a HUGE pool of knowledge and were very helpful. I don't claim to be an expert in the 421 but I'll pass along some of the collected wisdom of thousands of hours in type flown by my guys.
First, forget all the performance numbers in the manual. This thing uses a LOT of runway. We used to fly out of a 2800 foot runway with trees at each end with one of the 421s which happened to have a Robertson STOL kit. This helped, but getting the thing to 120 knots over the trees on takeoff (which gave us a margin of 9 knots over Vyse of 111) was exciting with both engines turning and 1000 pounds under gross. The downside of those big, beautiful props? They produce a lot of drag if they're not feathered. I was advised that if I lost an engine early on takeoff to just feather the dead engine and secure it later. If not, just cut the good engine and land and fly it into something soft. Not how we're taught in flight school but good advice, I think.
Second, those engines produce a lot of heat. In order to get the climb numbers Cessna publishes, they advise climbing at 120 knots. We never did this: the engines just get too hot. We usually climbed at 130 minimum, often 135 or 140 if it were summer. Climb performance takes a beating because of this.
Third, because of this, we seldom operated this thing above 10,000 feet. For us, the beating the engines took wasn't worth it. They are VERY expensive to replace. I've gone as high as 13,000 to clear some weather and was light at the time, but climb performance was less than 500 fpm at 135 indicated, well below gross. And you never want to sit on the ground on a hot day awaiting takeoff. I was surprised to find no cowl flaps and watched the oil temps sitting right below redline. Very nerve racking. We babied these engines and they always made it to TBO when we would replace them regardless of compression, if only for the gearbox.
Fourth, brakes. They seemed to be an afterthought in this a/c. Really terrible. We could get it stopped in under 3000 feet easily but you couldn't carry 120-125 to the fence. Like a lot of airplanes landing on short runways, once the field was made you needed to slow it below blue line-- there would be no single engine go around. The Robertson was better at this, obviously.
Last: the gearbox. There was a lot written about this airplane in the 70s when operators were watching the gear boxes self-destruct. Come to find out this thing doesn't like zero-thrust. You either need the engine driving the prop or the prop driving the engine. It makes an unusual warbling noice that your experienced instructor will point out to you as you approach the flare; that's when it's time to chop the power and fly it on like a C150. You can avoid this by dragging it in but that takes some practice and it's easy to get too slow.
We used to flight plan 50 gph and would get around 47 gph at 7 to 10 thousand feet, 185 to 190 TAS, 65% power. Nice and quiet, 2000 foot cabin. Get good training, maintain it well, fly it into 4000+ foot strips, stay current and you'll love this airplane. And take the cowling off regularly and have a look. You know about surprises.
I love, love, love my 421C, 1976 vintage. Yes, it is expensive, but it is worth it IMHO! I am a strange guy, minus the expense, I enjoy working on mine and watching it blossom. I have a G600 Autopilot in my near future. I currently have glass, G600TXi, GTN 750xi, GI-275, GWX-75 (Digital Wx Radar). Being a 35 year airline pilot, I wanted an airplane with some umph. People will say you are spending too much money, but when you look at the range, altitude capability, engine out performance, seats, etc., you know you have a very capable machine. It isn't an airliner, so be careful in icing, and make sure you are rested, it's a hot rod. Thank you for your wonderful videos, I love your enthusiasm and the quality of video productions! Much love coming from the West Coast my friend!!!
What do you spend on that thing annually to afford it? $20k,$50k $100k? What does one need to set aside and light on fire every year to own one?
If you have to ask you can’t afford it!
Do you know Eric Crecelius?
There are some good videos that explain average ownership costs broken down by fixed and variable costs. The nuts and bolts of what I've read suggest it costs on average of $50-$60k per year with a per flying hour cost of roughly $450/hr. I'd imagine most people who own these have at least $75-$100k in an "oh shit the plane is broken" fund because, as Jimmy explained in this video, every-single-thing is extremely expensive to work on. Adding pressurization to the equation is another ridiculous expense.@@RaceMentally
@@TheMarkgarrett you do realize that doesn’t apply to everyone I hope. Be a little more open minded. Having 4 planes, 2 sand cars that are $300k each and cost just over $100k annually to maintain, $275k stacker to house them and a $850k motorhome. I think your chump change comment doesn’t even stack up to my lifestyle. Don’t get me started on my place and boats in havasu and Michigan.
Peasant…
Please, Jimmy go get some training at a reputable Sim class, I have a couple thousand hours in 421C,B,A. You won’t believe the difference flying in a pressurized cabin, how quiet it is, and you lose all sense of how fast you’re going unless you’re constantly looking at your airspeed in the pattern, straight in approaches are great, watch out for that turn from base to final, once you figure it out, it’s a awesome airplane, flew across the country many times in 421s, most as corporate trips, some charter, and a fair amount, part 91 for maintenance checks, make sure you thoroughly understand how the starters operate and how to start those engines when it’s hot. 421WC was my favorite, wish you luck with being the caretaker of your new project,
I completely agree here. I have worked on them and did a few MX flights. This is completely different than anything you have shown on your channel. The GTSIO engine is different as well. Gear slap is something to be concerned about. The pilot I did the work for kept the prop “loaded” and had the mentality he would like to replace brakes more often than an engine overhaul for the gear in the engine.
He won't have a choice. Insurance won't touch that without type specific training and babysitting.
Would like to chat with you more about flying these birds. Email me at therealjimmysworld@gmail.com
Highly agree professional training from a flight center with level D sims. Initial training to 135 ATP standards with a check ride. I would highly recommend 135 standards for you and the plane. I wish you the best with your new plane and sound risk management. PS just curious did you consider a Navajo or any other cabin class airplane?
Pshhhh jimmy got this
These are the kind of video's I love!
Fixing and flying these planes..
Welcome back Jimmy this is what I like seeing what you do best...
Congratulations on getting a 421! That is truly a timeless design of a GA twin, awesome plane.
Wow Jimmy ! Nice bird ! The 421 is my second favorite 400 series Cessna 🤣😉
Can’t wait to check it out 👍🏼👍🏼
@rebuildrescue Jason look at these videos carefully and see how a professional repair shop works unlike a bunch of amateurs!!! You won't see any cabin windows installed with screws and nuts. TAS actually owns and knows how to use rivet guns!!!
Thanks!
Nice looking airplane Jimmy. Glad you have a very knowledgeable mechanic there to show you the pros and cons of purchasing a Cessna 421 Golden Eagle. The fuel tank issue Tony mentioned is indeed a big deal. This situation claimed the life of a friend of mine and two of his buddies. He was flying a 1975 Cessna 421 to the Bahamas for a nice weekend getaway. They found a fuel leak and thought it was coming from the fuel sump. A mechanic where they rented this 421 from replaced the sump valve and thought that fixed the problem. They flew the plane from South Carolina to Florida to refuel before heading off to the Bahamas. They arrived in the Bahamas with no problems. When they were getting ready to leave, he had the FBO there top off all the tanks. Apparently there was a fuel leak, but it was not caught on his preflight. Shortly after take off, the right engine caught on fire. He tried to turn the aircraft around, but the right wing melted off the airplane before he could complete his turn. The plane crashed into a heavily wooded area. It took first responders 20 minutes to get to the crash site. By then, the whole plane was engulfed in flames. There were no survivors. This happened 5 June 2018 in Rocksound, Eleuthera, Bahamas. The NTSB ruled the accident as pilot error because there was really nothing much left of the airplane for inspectors to investigate. Sorry to end on a sad note, but corrosion is a common problem on 421's that have the fuel tank behind the firewall. It sounds like you have a great mechanic there that is aware of the problem and knows how to correct it so the new owner does not end up like my friend and his buddies did in the Bahamas. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for sharing.
there is a report on a 421 crash in Rocksound, Eleuthera on June 5, 2018. While the NTSB participated, the investigation was conducted by the Air Accident Investigation Dept. of the Bahamas. The findings differ somewhat from your recollection. Of interest is it states "There was no evidence of airframe or system malfunction prior to the accident." They did a very thorough investigation based on the report.
@@skyboy1956 Yes, that is the Cessna 421B Golden Eagle that crashed that my friend Todd Crawford was flying on 5 June 2018. He was a Commercial rated pilot with years of flight experience. The local authorities report on the accident is a little more informative on what happened including videos of the accident scene over the NTSB report.
Maybe just convert that into storage/not have the tank at all? It seems like Cessna kind of did a kludge there. One option I saw as well was an air conditioner in that space? They evidently had several options for that "area" - but a fuel tank that close to the engine? I'd not want that. Yes, that would shorten the range some, but the main tank is about 200 gallons - a bit less less fuel isn't a game changer.
Not only have you inspired me to pursue Aeronautical Engineering, Jimmy, but your influence has also led me to become a Private Pilot. Now, I'm on the path to obtaining my commercial license. Thank you very much!!!!
heck yes!!! way to go!
@@therealjimmysworld :)
Hey Jimmy - I spent a lot of time maintaining a stable of twin Cessnas when I was a tech in the 90s. It might be worth making sure the fuel injection is set up correctly. There is a lengthy procedure in the maintenance manual that will ensure the fuel injection system is tuned properly and that the engines are matched. The 421 was one of my favorite aircraft to work on. The GTSIO-520s sound so sweet.
TCM SID97-3D I believe is the newest.
Embraer 195 driver here… absolutely love the airplane! It really has mini airliner vibes. Would love to fly one one day
After being able to take a very large item off my bucket list, I’m am happy like a little
Kid with a new puppy that you’re getting the 421c, it’s been a journey and not everything has went the way you planned, but you’re getting there, be careful,God Bless, really enjoy your channel
That a great name ky921. I live in KY and my lucky # is 921 and is my id on a lot of apps . Now I know why I coulden have ky921
@@waitemc I was given that when I changed my name on the acct, sorry to have taken your lucky number
421s are great, but be very careful with the engines. You will like the smoothness and the quiet cabin thanks to the low RPMs…the RAM conversion puts on the winglets.
Beautiful. Listening to the experts, seems like a reasonable deal. Thanks for sharing with us.
Your energy and sense of humor is what makes your channel soooo fun to watch!!! And also all your flying stuff.
Nice Jimmy, I am just an air tanker pilot so a 340 is as high up the ladder as I’m going to go. You will love the plane as long as you can hang with the money. But if you have to ask….you probably can’t afford it. Have fun and be careful. The big twin Cessnas are a joy to fly! You are a rock star Jimmy!! I highly recommend Aircraft Simulator Training in Burnet Tx for your annual insurance mandated training. Rick and his crew are the best. Simulators are top notch.
I’d suspect 600-700 an hour opx
Canadian aircraft tech since 1975 and just recently retired from a corporate operation in eastern Canada. I cut my teeth on twin Cessna in my early years and love the sound of the GTSIO. Looks pretty clean really so all the best with it mate.
Great purchase Jimmy, can't wait to see that bird in the air with you and the family!
Congratulations on the purchase! Maybe one you can come to Wichita and take a tour of our factory over in the westside facility. I've been there 23 years and love it. Thanks for the videos.
I got flight time in a functionally and aesthetically restored DC-3. I loved every minute of it and always looked forward to the next flight. So I am certain you are in for a wonderful treat.
The previous owners got N421KM to this annual, now you are taking this lovely aircraft into the future. As Tony pointed out, we are not really owners but caretakers of these lovely highly capable machines.
Also, I own a functionally restored antique car with decent original paint. I feel blessed and pleased every time I take my '85 Mercedes out.
My unofficial humble opinion is; PULL THE TRIGGER, pal, looks beautiful!! Be safe always from the Philippines.
I love Jimmy’s World!
I like Jimmy. He buys airplanes, works on them, flies (pilots) them, sells said aircraft and buys another one. (or five+?) That is cool-dogs! I'd like to work with the man. Good job Jimmy. Keep it up and thanks so much for sharing the chuckles and the heartbreaking troubles. Fly safe brother, James. Michigan.
Congratulations on your new bird. It will have the best possible prebuy inspection. When it comes to high altitude operations, especially in descent, you will find yourself in a new world but I know you will get the necessary training and have many rewarding flights in the 421C. At times ATC may not be quick to understand the operational limitations during a descent. I suspect you will employ an experienced 421 airman to ride with you as copilot until you are comfortable with all phases of operation. Smooth flying and thanks for sharing with us on RUclips.
Jimmie
50 yr A&P here
Good luck on that 421!
I hope you have a ton of money for that plane as it will use every dime you have even if your wealthy
Those engines are delicate and with all the acc very expensive to run and keep running
Get your single engine Op skills in order pls 😊😊
That’ll do. Looking forward to many adventures in the future for Jimmy and family.
Jimmy, I’ve been watching you for several years now. I’m so excited about you buying a Cessna 421C. I’ve started reviewing and watching every video about the 421C. What an amazing aircraft. I came across an article that says, While RAM Aircraft has converted Cessna 421Bs and 421Cs with different engines and associated systems, only the winglet equipped version received a different designation, RAM/Cessna 421CW. Your purchase of this aircraft has got my heart racing, wishing I had gotten into twins when I was younger. I started with a 1954 Piper Tri-Pacer, then a couple of 182’s then a Cessna 205, the best airplane I ever owned. Due to age and health conditions, i no longer fly. Good luck with your new Cessna 421CW. I’ll be watching and living my life through your adventures. I can’t wait till you’re actually flying the 421CW. God Bless.
heck yeah Jimmy, love talking to guys like that too you always feel like you learn so much
Winglets can only be put on the 421Cs without the trailing link. Basically gives them the 414A wing, which is longer than the standard 421C so it will be even more stable at altitude.
Trailing link is nothing but 400# useful load decrease in my opinion. I can make greaser landings without it, so can Jimmy.
Hi, why the winglets can’t be added with the trailing link gear system? Regards
@@RicardoSalinasFournier The STC only applies to serial numbers before the trailing link was available. My guess is because it's similar to the 414A winglet STC, and the non trailing link gear on the 421C and 414A are the same I believe.
Love it. That's a bad ass plane with lots of usable upgrades. I think that's as good as it gets before going into jets. Enjoy with your family and good health for all.
Had the pleasure of flying a 421C for a client for a few years. Very nice plane, just mind those geared motors. Another very neat Cessna twin option when you get the need for more umph, is the Silver Eagle II; namely 340's with Rolls 450hp turbine motors. I have ferried a couple of them. Your top end is a smidge better than the 421, but the climb performance (3500fpm) is a blessing especially when you want to get through the weather with haste, which is a must in the winter over the Cascades. Enjoy your new ride!
I’m happy for you on the 421. It seems to be a nice example. I can’t wait to watch your new 421 adventures.
I flew these a long time ago. An easy to fly, quiet, sweet handling beauty. Landings are a breeze on the trailing link gear (not there on this one??) If you’re the one paying the bills you’ll be handling the engines properly so they should be quite reliable.
I love this channel! It's great to see Jimmy going on ward and upward with bigger, cooler, faster, and more expensive aircraft!
Congradulations on buying the 421! Looks like it's going to be real solid after the repairs. Good luck and have fun.
The winglets are part of the RAM conversion. Glad you are getting training. It’s real easy to tear up the gear boxes on those engines. Always plan a cruise descent. Never, ever, ever, yank the power to idle and back-lash the gears. Smoothly to idle in the flare.
And they really like to idle at 1200 rpm instead of 1000rpm. Get it going, do your run up and fly! Corrected spell check errors.
Agree. Replace the cross feed line if indicated. Several restoration experts who restored Onl Beech birds often replace old aluminum fuel lines on very old birds
The 421 is the plane for you, Jimmy. It's a workhorse. It's fast, sturdy, and has a good range for cross-country. I flew quite a bit (no, I didn't have one), with a friend, and I tell you, she's a real pleasure to fly. Good buy. Good winds and happy landings from Portugal 🇵🇹
SO excited about the Golden Eagle. What an awesome aircraft. Congrats and can't wait till he can hear "clear prop" for the first time
Finally a plane up in here, what a beautiful 421C! Oh, also thank you for saving the 310 and making a great job of it and taking the time to walk us through the whole story! I enjoyed every bit of it and I'm so happy to see this! It seems saving the 421C is a whole other level! Wow! Amazing airplane tho'
I left policing to pursue aviation. I’ve got a spot in Southwest’s 225 program. You best believe when I get some in at the airlines that I will be purchasing an aircraft for myself. When people understand that money doesn’t go with us then you can remember to breathe a little more. Enjoy yourself and the time you have left!
I'm excited to see you flying the 421. I have flown one before and loved it.
I work with an AG operator based in KDFI. I get to watch those twin Cessnas take off all day long and have probably seen this exact plane out before. Love to see you in the area and maybe I'll get to meet you one of these days out there!!
It's a testament to American aircraft manufacturers that their airplanes are not only still flying,they're repairable antiques.
Lovely looking aircraft. From the 401 onwards they just look right. Even for 1976 it looks 21st century. Love it.
Congrats on 421! Such an awesome and capable plane. Flew in one that a family friend owned a bunch of times. Word of advice, be mindful on the hot starts, they can be a real biotch to get going.
Doing what Jimmy does ! I flew a 421 for a businessman out of Tyler Texas back in the middle 1990s before I went back back to flying AG planes.
I was hoping you get the aerostar ! Talk about a rocket ship!! I've heard some pretty interesting stories of adventures in 421's. One of which was icing conditions. The front boots on the wings were inflating and keeping the ice clear, but the boots on the horizontal stabilizer had stopped working. Unable to visually inspect that part of the plane while inside, when they went to flare in the landing there was very little elevator authority due to the ice, so the landing was quite harsh. Since its such a tank and built so well, even with the ice, on the stabilizer, it even functioned fairly well outside of its engineered use. Keep safe and rubber side down.
My grandfather had had 310 that had gear issues which resulted in a nose gear up landing. It had just been picked up from the shop after being gone through before we were going to take it on a trip. My grandfather always had his airplanes fully checked and would test fly them a few days before taking a trip and the shop didn’t pin the gear correctly which is what caused the problem. He also owned a 421 Ram Air, 414 Ram Air and a 340 Ram Air. To me his 340 always looked like it was hauling ass even sitting on the ground. I always enjoyed getting to fly with him and really miss it. He had many more airplanes some even quit a bit bigger and faster and much higher flying than the previously mentioned.
Looks like you found your perfect aircraft Jimmy! Hope your avionics upgrades, etc. don't break the bank! It's going to be fun watching the adventures!
Congrats! I like watching Wagner’s channel I think that’s what he flies also, thanks Jimmy!
HI Jimmy. You will love the 421. (Just don't look at your check book! Ha!) I had a 76 C model for many years. With three kids and 2 dogs, it was the best family airplane you will find. Tony did all the work on mine and is the Best! You will not go wrong there. Enjoy!
After 3 years in Florida it will be a moldy Dust bucket unless you Hangar. And you will need at a minimum 44 x 38 ft to store , and that will run about $700-1K a month. and even then in Florida will only extend the corrosion time by a year or two. I recommend keeping it in the desert South west.
Jimmy.... she's purdy! I worked Avionics on the OV-10D Bronco back in the day. Those twin turbos are freaking fast!
I love the 421. Jimmy's World is definitely moving up in the world... An additional 10k feet.
Could I interest you in a bucket of kitty litter and a scoop? Put it in the rear baggage next to the potty. You will thank me. Be sure to use the scented kind. And speaking of corrosion, is there a large enough hangar to keep that 421 in? I would hate to park it outside in FLORIDA!
Can you crack open a window after #2 ????. Kidding. How long does it take to change the air in the cabin? Pressurised that is. Folks started getting a lot sicker from catching stuff on a airliner when FAA dropped the rate to 10 minutes from 5. I realize it's a small plane, which brings us back to # 2......
@@billwendell6886 NOBODY uses the potty on my airplane.. number 1 or 2.. aint happening.. i'll land and let the FBO facilities take that download.. no time or fuel constraint is going to make me break the seal on the onboard potty..
Wow Jimmy nice plane it's going to be nice once all repairs are done, I like the older man you were talking to he seems like a straight shooter.
Jimmy spends money like he’s printing it in the basement 💰 😂😅
He gives me anxiety.😅
Don't worry, if I win the Powerball jackpot on Saturday night, I will bail him out. Heck, I might even buy him a Honda Jet. Just like the one I will buy.
Where does this guy get so much cash? Did he hit it big in business? Or inherit an a$$load?
He's a business owner for sure. I don't know what but I know he was and had ti have been successful.
Jimmy spends money like he suckered a bunch of rubes into paying for his hobbies
Congrats on your purchase and looking forward to the restoration process. He is correct about corrosion being the disdain of the aviation field and I wish more owners took it seriously.
@alittletexasingeorgia Not all shops are as thorough as TAS and many aircraft have hidden corrosion that has been ignored for years until it is too late and the repair exceeds the valued of he aircraft.
Airplanes turn millionaires into thousandaires! Nice looking plane Jimmy. I hope it provides many safe fun trips for you and your family. Always enjoy your content.
An airplane is a void in the air into which you pour money.
Jimmy, I think you should buy the 421C. It really looks like a good deal,and you can fly your entire family in it. I say go for it and wish you the best, I love following your content. Marc F.
My favorite plane, and a RAM to boot. I hear you have to be gentle with the throttles to preserve the geared engines.
Great advice from someone full of product knowledge. Cannot be underestimated how important that is in the world of aviation.
Doing the RUclips thing and watching, liking and sharing. Cause Jimmy is AWESOME.
We had a 421 in the fleet for a bit. Good bird. Only gripe with it was the hardware for the exhaust and turbos were always coming loose. We were tightening them pretty often.
Ah my favorite airplane to fly. Spent many hours flying the 421 B, and 421 C models. They have a bad reputation for high cost to operate, maintain, and service. Most of the problems came from too many pilots not operating the plane as they should. This is an airplane that is best flown by one pilot! It does not like power and prop changes. Every change must be slow, and your flight profile must be well planned in advance. Pulling power and shock cooling the engines is a quick death to the engines. There is not another plane that is as sweet to fly with those geared engines and massive props. This airplane if it flown correctly will deliver lower cost to operate than a C414. I miss my C421, and it still is my number one favorite piston cabin class airplane ever made. Getting insurance will be a challenge for you and keeping currency. Let's see how this turns out.
@SI-lg2vp Couldn't agree with you more!!! I owned a 1976 421C, equipped very much like Jimmy's. Winglets, spoilers and VG's. I loved that airplane. Never had any issues with the engines. Took Simcom training, learned how to operate the GTSIO's.! The spoilers were a great addition for managing descents and speed. Wish I never sold it!!
I flew a 421B and lost an engine coming out of 19,000’. It flew very well on one engine another 30 mile for me to have a good landing at CAE. The engine threw a rod probably from a spun bearing and put a plum size hole in the case.
NO~~???? What have you done now? I have a honey do list today and yet, I feel compeled to see what disaster is looooooming now with Jimmys World..........When you get the 421 up and running, include a spray bottle of "Poo Be Gone" in that toilet region. ITS MAGIC! Triple AAA rating and besides that....it works! Home tested by moi! .
Jimmy thank you so much for making my Friday better ❤
Congrats on the new 421C! You deserve it! Looking forward to the journey with you 😇
Tony sounds like a Great Guy!
Congratulations on the New Plane!
Can’t wait for the Maiden Flight!!!!!!
Wish I was going with!
You really need to get into your GTSIO 520's operations. It operates differently then any non-geared engine. Power settings for take off and let down are critical to keep your cases from cracking. I highly recommend getting ahold of the STC that Scenic Air in Los-Vigus NV. used to operate there 404 Titans back in the 80's before they went to the Twin Otters. I was an A&P, IA, 135 Director of Maintains back then and we leased back one of the 404's to fly freight. The STC works so well that Scenic was able to increase TBO's by 500 hrs.
It has been awhile for me now and I don't quite remember all the details but most important was the let down power settings to keep the engine from cooling to fact. Something about no more then 1 inch of manifold pressure reduction per one thousand feet of altitude. Loved the 421's myself, good luck.
It's also been great to see Jimmy's channel grow like it has
The definition of a good purchase can only be determined at the end of ownership, not at the beginning. Hope for the best!
Congrats! I was looking at that plane but couldn't find a hangar to put it with the extra wingspan due to the winglets.
That was a challenge here too
@@therealjimmysworld it's going to be a great plane. Fast with the airframe mods and a good useful load since it's straight leg. It was priced in a way that any $ you put into avionics you will get back. I think vantage has carpet kits it just needs the bottom carpet and the interior will be great. Good luck on the annual.
Currently flying 404s with the geared continentals. What an incredible sounding and performing engine. Congrats!
If you have the money and can justify it and the 421 is considered 100% good I would say Do It! Don't forget to Polish the front and side Pilot windows and ceramic coat them if it is approved. Please do at least 40 hours of training in it if that is feasible for you. Then keep up with the hourly expense projections and Hangar the thing. Change the tail Number to N421JW and I think that number is available. That would be a good Tail Number for it. It would be a number that will help people know who the Owner is.
I do believe you made a good deal, especially with the people that are doing the inspections and repairs. At least you know you’ll have a good solid, reliable airplane when you’re done. And not to mention you get to see it hands-on while it’s open and inspections and repairs are being done. Maybe a little costly but you’ll come out in the end. The 421C models are very good airplanes.
You're going to need to do annual recurrent training to get insurance for that one.
Sounds like a money pit. Not so sure a Beech 18 wouldn't be a better deal. Slower though it's a very solid aircraft. Looks like a small DC-3.
@@robertthomas5906 I'd take the Beech 18 any day. BUUTTTT, with a wife and kids, the higher altitude, A/C, good heating and that indespensable little pottie makes for a much happier life for Jimmy on long flights. Granted, those potties are no luxury item and can be quite challenging, they do come in very handy on those long flights. Of course the potty is useless to Jimmy unless the right seat is occupied by an appropriately rated co-pilot.
He's going to need to get a whole lot more twin hours in the 421C with an instructor that has a lot of 421C experience before insurance will even talk to him about underwriting a policy. His time in the other twins he's owned is good and will count to a certain degree, but the 421 is in a whole other class of airplane.
He also has to get a high altitude endorsement since the service ceiling of the 421C is higher than 25,000ft, if he does not already have one. I am only assuming he does not. The 421C is certified to just over 30,000ft.
Another absolutely amazing video! Learned so much about maintenance and corrosion...wow. Thank you so much Jimmy!
Aerostar/Queenair/421. Coolest piston twins out there.
Dear Jimmy…I’ve owned three twins, 2 TwinBonanzas, and Queen Air… Your 421 is top shelf ….with those turbo Rams and other complexity …you need a BIG go fund me page or deep pockets ahead. Safe Flying Captain!
But a new version of this same type of aircraft is.. 4-5 mil? The costs are indeed frightening but 100K a year for even 40(!) years is still cheaper than buying new. The thing is, one can't get the least bit lazy on spending that money. It'll be 100K a year pretty much forever. Deep pockets for sure...
Note - the costs for a JET... yeah... 15-20x that per year. This is an expensive "hobby" but nothing like owning a jet. The channels where some DIYer buys a jet - it's like a train wreck in slow motion... lol. Money adds up so fast...
Jimmy while you have the nacelle apart and the fire wall partially removed ask Tony if the crossfeed lines were replaced with stainless steel. There is a Service kit for replacing them. Years ago when they had all the exhaust problems there were several fatal crashes where an exhaust leak burned a hole in the firewall and they ruptured the aluminum crossfeed lines. There is no way to shut off those lines once they are ruptured. If there is a fire it will burn until all the fuel tanks are exhausted. By then the fire usually burns through the spar and the wing falls off.
I have lots of time in one coming up the ladder. Good Luck !!!!!!!!!!!! And I suggest you find someone with good time in it to learn how to operate it!!!
Congrats Jimmy!
Always interesting to see where people spend their airplane dollars. Adding winglets but not addressing corrosion? Glad it went to a great shop and it will be taken care of!
Dude! You like a project that will get you and family to great adventures, so what's wrong with that? Great job brother! 😎
Tony makes sense. I tell my customers because of the age of the AC I have to take extra time and inspect carefully.
Seems like a few commercial airline tickets would save you about $95000 dollars to go to the Bahamas..
Jimmy. I owned a 310B for seven years then traded for a 310R. I flew it for 18 years . Tony at TAS did a lot of my maintenance. They are the best. Congratulations on the 421C. It looks like a keeper. They are very expensive to operate. Enjoy it while you can afford it. I am 81 now, and I sold mine because even with zero claims, 13,000 hours of accident free flying, and an ATP the premium had risen to over $12,000 a year. My advanced age did me in.
Yep, you have lost your mind! Have you priced overhauls on a GTSIO-520, assuming the engine makes TBO? Plan on six new jugs, a new spur gear for the gear reduction drive, all new lifters and a new cam, plus all the NORMAL wear items in a standard overhaul.
So excited for all the new "Jimmy's World" stories to come with this beauty. Butttttt it will be hard to say goodbye to the Silver Bullet. I've bought my stuff and really hoping I'm the lucky winner on the trip to the Bahamas. You should come up with all the "I bought this for this....", and sold for that so we can see how much fun you are having.... what's the latest with the "blue tarp special". The 421 has always been a favorite.... the speed deamons you were looking are cool to but when folks talk.... this one is the P51 of 70s to today "affordable " family aviation.... you are moving Jimmy's World up..... woooww... wooww..... 😅😎
Bob
Hi jimmy , that 421 is fantastic ,cant wait to see it fly , following ,,,
I think that this is probably the best investment you have made so far. Now you can take your entire family where ever you go. You are a lucky man.
Fantastic !! Best of luck with your new ride
I flew 421LC that used to be based at your home airport. Great planes. The key is always go high with them to get the speed for the fuel burn. We would get 22 a side in cruise.
Looking forward to all the details !
I just thought I would let you know that my husband actually had the very first 421C with the winglets. His 421CW was the test plane for Ram Air in Waco, Texas. His N numbers were 26HE and he the Chief pilot for the west Texas division of Pizza Hut. He always enjoys watching your videos. My husband said you made the best purchase and you will really enjoy flying it.
Love the 421C!! I am looking forward to future flight videos. Follow another channel (Jerry Wagner), and he has a 421C. Like I said... Beautiful plane!!!
Air Wagner is AWESOME