Cessna Experts Inspect My Abandoned 310 Airplane....

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  • Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
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  • @therealjimmysworld
    @therealjimmysworld  11 дней назад +26

    Check out twincessna.org/?aff=jimmysworld and Use CODE jimmysworld to get 10% off any purchase lots of free resources too! learn more owning and flying these wonderful airplanes.

    • @nickd920
      @nickd920 10 дней назад +5

      If only every one of your subscribers would donate a dollar, that would be awesome.

    • @lynnkramer1211
      @lynnkramer1211 10 дней назад

      I just cannot watch a video like this for an hour and a half. Sadly I have come to disbelieve your video titles. Con man is a strong word, but making yourself rich by YT embellishment seems to be the entire point of this channel. So long I have real stuff to do.

    • @diesellady1
      @diesellady1 10 дней назад +2

      Save the 310!!!

    • @nolt4024
      @nolt4024 10 дней назад

      Call the fantasy of flight guy. See if he’ll help or would want it for his collection. There can’t be too many early 310’s out there that are polished up like that one is.
      …he’d prolly even want to fix it before putting it in his collection.

    • @BruceCarbonLakeriver
      @BruceCarbonLakeriver 10 дней назад

      I watched the whole video - keep that bird and make it class 1 super dooper airworthy - we'd love it

  • @blancolirio
    @blancolirio 10 дней назад +383

    The reality of proper maintenance on older airplanes! Excellent expert Inspection!
    Thanks for posting!

    • @realone4341
      @realone4341 10 дней назад +11

      Thanks for the positive comment Juan.

    • @whiffy506
      @whiffy506 10 дней назад +7

      Cheers Juan. Have nice weekend sir

    • @timkuehn8888
      @timkuehn8888 10 дней назад +7

      Hey Juan good to see you here!

    • @Scott_Hauck
      @Scott_Hauck 10 дней назад +15

      Owning a 1964 150 i dont think its no longer maintenance it is more like a on going restoration.

    • @AraCarrano
      @AraCarrano 10 дней назад +7

      @34:08 So nice to hear the words "Impressive for its age", instead of "insane".

  • @jonathanfreedom1st
    @jonathanfreedom1st 10 дней назад +147

    That Cessna 310 in Polished aluminum is the most gorgeous Cessna I've seen..

    • @jwc4520
      @jwc4520 10 дней назад

      It lacks nice Penny.

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 9 дней назад +11

      And like many hot pretties, it'll leave a dent in your wallet. 😂

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 9 дней назад +1

      Its garish crap
      Just because its shiny does not mean its a heap of rubbish which it is

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 9 дней назад +5

      I agree. Looks beautiful.

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 9 дней назад +8

      @@gowdsake7103not either. It’s a beautiful example of aviation from that time period. Juan Brown flies one and he’s a 777 pilot. What do you fly?
      Look at the Amelia Earharts aircraft. The beautiful Lockheed Electra. Finished exactly the same way? What would you do? wrap it the same color as your Tesla?

  • @davidnelson8081
    @davidnelson8081 7 дней назад +18

    I am a 40 year A&P/ IA. I fully respect and support these professionals in this shop.

    • @tomruth9487
      @tomruth9487 6 дней назад

      @davidnelson8081, These people have a serious knowledge of these planes. I'm sure this takes years and years of experience.

  • @DeanMiller-de9jy
    @DeanMiller-de9jy 9 дней назад +22

    This bird is now a display item. Great eye candy. Its new life will be in a museum, corporate foyer, mall display, hung from ceiling, something like that. It can live forever and give joy without flying.

    • @bill-8794
      @bill-8794 6 дней назад +3

      I vote for Jimmy's crew to do the repairs as possible. Get it back in the air

    • @dr_jaymz
      @dr_jaymz 4 дня назад +1

      Me too. But it will will still be a tired aircraft, tired interior, leaky engines and you can still find a fault that ends it even after 110k spent on it. So makes no sense to fix it up... thats why he should do it. He's already got the savethe310 domain.

  • @bingwrite7099
    @bingwrite7099 10 дней назад +121

    So refreshing to see the A&P side of the house getting some spotlight. I’m Avionics/A&P and while we take a lot of pride in our work, we rarely get some credit. Love seeing these vids lately.
    I work at a flight school and we’re dealing with spar corrosion on some of our twins. Not a fun thing to find and definitely a costly job. These older girls take a blank check to keep flying!

    • @johnb4183
      @johnb4183 10 дней назад +2

      What is the hourly rate of a guy who does these type of repairs ? Thanks!

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 7 дней назад

      Not to mention some likely metal fatigue to go along with it!

    • @bingwrite7099
      @bingwrite7099 2 дня назад

      @@chuckschillingvideos 100%. Intergranular corrosion is the root of all evil haha

  • @stevepurduski2932
    @stevepurduski2932 10 дней назад +47

    Jimmy, we don't know exactly what you are going to decide on this situation with the 310, BUT this video has been highly instructive and entertaining for us airplane nerds out here. I have learned so much about the inner workings of airplanes that one seldom gets to see, and I hope this provides impetus for aircraft owners to go the extra mile on their routine maintenance and inspections. Thank you for sharing this whole story with us!

    • @pilsplease7561
      @pilsplease7561 8 дней назад

      A family friend was a pilot, he picked up a brand new plane from the factory, and was flying it across the US back to California, Suffered a dual engine failure due to manufacturing defects in the fuel system, fuel all bled out and he called in to the closest tower told them he was going down and he was going to land on a road but a car came around the corner so he landed it in a field flipped it upside down in a drainage ditch got knocked out his brother pulled him out of the plane. The manufacturer had to pay him a shitload of money and gave him a new plane because of it. I believe it was Piper that was in the 70's

    • @evryhndlestakn
      @evryhndlestakn 8 дней назад +1

      So true. Not an area to neglect, rather it should be a priority. The price for scrimping or delay can be huge, & that is irrelevant of dollars & cents.

  • @gsguy9359
    @gsguy9359 9 дней назад +44

    These hidden little gems on old aircraft make you think twice about buying someone else's problem. There are areas that you would never think to inspect or look at when purchasing used aircraft. Thanks for the insightful and informative video on used antique aircraft maintenance.

    • @evryhndlestakn
      @evryhndlestakn 8 дней назад +1

      Or, at least for a price that is adjusted for age & fixing any issues.

    • @michaelsimon7414
      @michaelsimon7414 7 дней назад +1

      Why dump money into something you will never see a return on. I would invest in another plane.

    • @billakers6082
      @billakers6082 7 дней назад +1

      Exotic cars can be worse.

    • @johnwayne2103
      @johnwayne2103 4 дня назад +1

      That is always the case, when you buy used you are usually buying someone else's problems.

  • @600torque
    @600torque 10 дней назад +39

    Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy has to be one of the most honest people i have ever seen. He is
    not hiding anything and has put it all out there for everyone to see. well done jimmy. Sleep on
    it and take your time with the decision. you will make the right one.

    • @dogbugler
      @dogbugler 8 дней назад +2

      Hang in there Jimmy, God isn't finished with you yet. Shalom

  • @Spanna0000
    @Spanna0000 10 дней назад +83

    First time I have seen the reality of aircraft ownership shown on RUclips. And it was on Jimmys World, no less.

    • @1nvisible1
      @1nvisible1 7 дней назад

      *Watching this video makes me so glad I did not purchase this airplane!*
      [note: I am not a pilot. Rather poor, too, but still glad 🙂]

    • @dennisstoesz
      @dennisstoesz 6 дней назад

      I've been there ,bought a couple bad ones , boy oh boy ..what a sick feeling.. I would not buy old junk like this ever. Part it out..! Not worth fixing !

  • @alangarrett1181
    @alangarrett1181 10 дней назад +127

    Not a problem Jimmy, the wife can always get a second or third job. Silas is old enough to hold down a couple of jobs by now as well.

    • @BruceCarbonLakeriver
      @BruceCarbonLakeriver 10 дней назад +7

      Yeah send Silas to mow lawn for bucks ^^

    • @eagle2019
      @eagle2019 10 дней назад +9

      @@BruceCarbonLakeriver I think "Pool boy" pays better!! 😁

    • @merrystoneequestrianfarm
      @merrystoneequestrianfarm 10 дней назад

      I hear coal mines in China are still a viable career for underaged children 😂

    • @BruceCarbonLakeriver
      @BruceCarbonLakeriver 10 дней назад +1

      @@eagle2019 Oh, yes maybe xD

    • @psilver063
      @psilver063 10 дней назад +4

      @@eagle2019pool boy in Florida is definitely the better job than Lawn Boy. Jimmy needs to find him a pool boy job on Wisteria Lane and then he will become Pool Man by summers end 🤣!
      FYI: Wisteria Lane is the name of the road the desperate housewives live on!

  • @chrisruthford4492
    @chrisruthford4492 10 дней назад +34

    The older gentleman reminds me of my great uncle. He was an Airplane Mechanic his whole life. He had forgotten more about airplanes than most people will ever know. He used to build the most spectacular RC aircraft as a hobby in his spare time.

    • @perrycorn2789
      @perrycorn2789 10 дней назад +7

      It’s a lovely looking 310 and it will cost to fix it but if you want it as a private collectable aircraft it’s worth fixing but as a commercial project it’s not worth it unless you are using it for a VIP service but would be a shame to scrap it . I am a aircraft engineer about to retire and would love fixing these old aircraft just for something to do to preserve them for future generations to admire

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 6 дней назад

      He's a know nothing cowboy, I wouldn't fly on anything he's touched.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 дней назад

      Nah these guys don't know what they're talking about

  • @androidemulator6952
    @androidemulator6952 10 дней назад +16

    This video should be viewed by every would-be plane purchaser, as essential "Pre-Purchase Inspection" video - those Cessna Twins guys really know there stuff. Thanks Jimmy.

    • @aerocorby
      @aerocorby 8 дней назад +1

      There is no such thing as a pre-purchase inspection, only a pre buy exam

    • @AlanMydland-fq2vs
      @AlanMydland-fq2vs 7 дней назад

      everybody buys your experience😢

  • @Alfaspiderman84
    @Alfaspiderman84 10 дней назад +39

    Jimmy, The Alclad is the pure aluminum, and its on the outside to protect the aluminum alloy of the sheet metal. FYI. Thanks for your content. Its still the best!!

    • @Alfaspiderman84
      @Alfaspiderman84 10 дней назад +2

      If anybody can fix it, you can!...

    • @InCognito-yq5ew
      @InCognito-yq5ew 6 дней назад

      I am a Metallurgists, free aluminum is 99% and pure aluminum is actually less than that. 100% aluminum would be to soft for any structural form.

  • @larrytalley117
    @larrytalley117 10 дней назад +44

    Normally when I take a stroll through Jimmy’s World, it starts with a buzzing in my ears, a swirling mysterious fog, and an insatiable need to watch the video; followed by a serene satisfaction of having spent a wonderful time with Jimmy. But this video was a bit different. While the buzzing and the fog was there, the visit was a bit different. I felt as if Jimmy took my hand and the two of us wandered back in the past and experienced the first sight of the original 310 all covered in dust in that old barn. We watched the engines start and again felt the excitement and anticipation of what was to come. There was the roller coaster ride with the up’s and downs of success followed by disappointment. Together we felt the elation of finding the Silver Bullet and now the crushing realization of how many issues within that gleaming exterior were waiting to be found. BUT, this is Jimmy’s World and I have learned that sometimes the agony of defeat can sometimes be turned into a win for Jimmy and all of us who experience his world with him. I sincerely hope this is one of those circumstances.

    • @realone4341
      @realone4341 10 дней назад +2

      We can surmise we are true Jimmy fans when all of what you say makes complete sense and will draw us back.

  • @coldisle
    @coldisle 8 дней назад +6

    THE most beautiful machine ever…a functional masterpiece work of art. The polished aluminum just accentuates every beautiful line.

  • @briank1671
    @briank1671 10 дней назад +10

    From "Save the 310" to just send me money so I can have a nice airplane pretty much sums up the channel now. Sorry that's how I feel at this point.

  • @Mark-ll3kh
    @Mark-ll3kh 10 дней назад +56

    Hi Jimmy, welcome to my world with saving the 340. I’m in my plane about twice what I could sell it for. Having said that….it is mechanically and structurally in excellent condition now. Having said that……there are still things….really expensive things that can and may well go on in the future. Kinda like an old bulldozer. You can break 10 grand worth of stuff just walking by and looking at it sideways. Here is the bottom line. If you don’t trust the machine, don’t keep it! What’s it worth to you, ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) to gain that trust?
    I am a 23,000 hour DC-10 guy who’s retirement gig is flying an air tanker. I love to fly! I can’t imagine any other job or hobby. I should have dumped the 340 but I didn’t. Shame on me. It’s a great flying plane, (now $$$$$$) and I’m just not going to look back. My advice is salvage out the 310. That one won’t pan out. Good luck with the 421. They are a joy to fly once you can trust the machine. You are a rock star in my book Jimmy!

    • @Kevin19700
      @Kevin19700 10 дней назад +5

      Absolutely spot on advice. Just what I saw in this one vid said salvage it. Some “money pits” you just need to walk away from. I’ve done it on a few very expensive cars over the years. My biggest (thought process) mistake was to keep thinking back to what it cost new and what a new one would cost now. Big mistake. The years go by and mechanical systems wear out. Don’t let that “barn find” kill your finances😏💸

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 9 дней назад +3

      ​@@Kevin19700and even expensive cars can be kept running on a shoestring budget and won't necessarily kill you, if you keep steering and brakes in check. Complex aircraft require more attention, if you want to live a long life.

    • @flyer617
      @flyer617 9 дней назад +4

      The comment about an A&P who has time to put into this stuck out. That might be the solution and could possibly fetch more money than parting it out and there is a much better chance the plan will live on.

    • @wyateerp1
      @wyateerp1 9 дней назад +3

      Kinda like my Harley. Just add 3 zeros to any repair. Geeeeez

    • @user-pe4xf6hd5q
      @user-pe4xf6hd5q 8 дней назад

      With older airplanes it is common to be unable to recover the costs of deferred maintenance or most improvements

  • @DaveyHo69
    @DaveyHo69 10 дней назад +66

    "I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue"

  • @matthewcrawford6737
    @matthewcrawford6737 10 дней назад +8

    The 2 by 4 analogy is a classic....What a gem of a guy!

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 9 дней назад +6

    What a fantastic outfit that company is. Should be model standard for the whole aviation industry. Well done.

  • @jimcear1766
    @jimcear1766 10 дней назад +24

    Wait for the numbers on the 421. Have a defibrillator nearby .

  • @georgebrennan2304
    @georgebrennan2304 9 дней назад +5

    Incredible A&I. Very fortunate to find a inspector/ mechanic like this gentleman

  • @tedsmith4353
    @tedsmith4353 10 дней назад +42

    This day will change the way Jimmy inspects the future planes he buys.
    good all around.

    • @williamoberlander7932
      @williamoberlander7932 9 дней назад +2

      Well S T. Everyone makes ! Mistakes! Still a lovely very old Aircraft

    • @bigdmister
      @bigdmister 8 дней назад

      I am not a pilot but I know that if I’m buying say a used car for example I’m making sure that it’s inspected thoroughly Given the age of this plane, and what could be wrong I’m stunned Jimmy didn’t have this done. What am I missing.

    • @robbbbbie12
      @robbbbbie12 7 дней назад

      Hopefully he never loads up his kid and takes one of these sketchy aircraft on a flight again.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 дней назад

      @@bigdmister The guys a multi millionaire who can easily afford to fix this aircraft. Everything you see in the videos is scripted. He buys these planes to make content. He has them inspected and knows the problems. The guy isn't dumb. His goofy persona is an ACT he plays a character for the channel

  • @jonathanhorne6503
    @jonathanhorne6503 10 дней назад +18

    Decades ago the company I worked for as a newly minted A&P did an annual inspection on the same type of 310 with the augmented exhaust. The engine exhaust blew through the stainless tubes and ate through about 30% of the spar. The plane had been flying that way. I found it. My boss called the local FAA FSDO mx and had him come look at it. The plane got condemned. We eventually had to cut the wings off and it was a parts plane. I remember it had good engines and props. I’m glad I’m retired now.

    • @AlanMydland-fq2vs
      @AlanMydland-fq2vs 7 дней назад

      dont fly really old airplanes😢

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 6 дней назад

      They couldn't replace the spar?

    • @DblIre
      @DblIre 5 дней назад

      ​@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24It's not that easy. You're talking about rebuilding roughly 1/3 of the airplane. Probably wouldn't be economically feasible .

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 дней назад +1

      @@DblIre I've worked on spar replacements for commercial passenger jets compared to that a Cessna twin is a simple Kite. That said I can see how the cost may be higher than the aircrafts market value. My big question is why didn't I inspections catch the exhaust leak way before it torched a spar?

  • @DaveyHo69
    @DaveyHo69 10 дней назад +59

    ....that 310 would make a GREAT roof ornament for your garage....

    • @larrytaylor7753
      @larrytaylor7753 10 дней назад +4

      A very large weather vane.

    • @ChrisHarding-lk3jj
      @ChrisHarding-lk3jj 10 дней назад +1

      ​@@larrytaylor7753 I was going to say the same thing. Build a structural steel pole with bearings and an attachment frame for the aircraft.

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 9 дней назад +1

      it'll look bad very soon and nobody is going to put in ten grand every couple of years just to keep it shiny.

  • @Ana_Jantra
    @Ana_Jantra 10 дней назад +106

    Fix it and fly it!!!🆒😎👍! All life comes to an end . And then we must carry on

  • @UnitSe7en
    @UnitSe7en 7 дней назад +3

    The Cessna twins are a flock of really good-looking aircraft. Always liked them since a boy.

  • @steveschmidt5489
    @steveschmidt5489 7 дней назад +2

    She's a classic and rare. We all started with save the 310 lets keep going .Rally support to fix her then auction her off and get the next going , we are in it for jimmy's world adventures.

  • @gmugrumbach
    @gmugrumbach 10 дней назад +38

    That 310 is a flying museum piece! Keep it going! Such a beautiful plane.

    • @adf360
      @adf360 10 дней назад +9

      Actually, a one-time ferry flight to a museum may be a good option, preserve the aircraft and use it as a tax write off.

  • @FPVSlacker
    @FPVSlacker 10 дней назад +252

    General Aviation. The most expensive way to die.

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 10 дней назад +35

      Only if you don’t know what you are doing. Every problem found in this video should have been caught before he bought the plane. He should have had a 310 specialist do a pre buy inspection. I’ve been doing this close to 30 years and before RUclips, you never saw people buying planes without pre buy inspections.

    • @danielsmith9500
      @danielsmith9500 10 дней назад

      @@adamr9215now it’s all about views. Ppl make so much that it pays for itself

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 10 дней назад +26

      Yes, unfortunately that’s pretty much what is left to it. Insanely expensive because of tighter and tighter regulation, but it is also getting more and more dangerous, partly because regulation is a giant gatekeeper against technology and the proliferation needed to keep cost down. What is left is rich people flying around in old, uncomfortable junk about to die. This was not supposed to be this way. We need to start over.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 10 дней назад +3

      Not even close, gen5 military, is SO much more expensive.

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 10 дней назад +10

      @@johnnunn8688 Yes. F22s and F35s are still ahead of a used 1973 Cessna 172, but the gap is tightening. I did the math, they will cost the same in 2032.

  • @fredbugden6935
    @fredbugden6935 10 дней назад +11

    Sometimes there's cool stuff that needs to be kept going against all logic and expense. , this might be one of them. It's a beautiful classic.

  • @donmertle9099
    @donmertle9099 10 дней назад +3

    Lots of good lessons for any prospective owners. Metal, wood, cloth, fiberglass - like a boat they always need work and picking the right project for you is the question. Upholstery and paint are the easy ones.

  • @johnkoz34
    @johnkoz34 10 дней назад +19

    I feel for you, Jimmy. When I had my 421, I had many similar conversations with Tony and Marla. Always painful, but always knew I had a safe aircraft. Good luck on deciding what to do with the 310. I hope you don't have similar conversations with the 421...But, these are old airplanes......and still lot's of fun!

    • @eagle2019
      @eagle2019 10 дней назад +5

      I too have had similar conversations with Tony & Marla. They did the prepurchase, which later turned into an annual on my Twin Cessna. Mine needed the side brace kits installed. My annual was $30k+

  • @dougpartington1843
    @dougpartington1843 10 дней назад +11

    Jimmy, my heart wants to see the Silver Bullet fixed and flying, but my brain says a $125,000 isn't economical. Plus, the fact that one of the engines will soon need an overhaul. The only hope would be to set up a gofund me for it and hope enough of us would throw in enough money to keep it going. Good luck! The video was very enlightening.

  • @waynegrissom8845
    @waynegrissom8845 10 дней назад +3

    Jimmy, I'm really sorry to hear this news. As an American living in England, I've always found a time of rest and enjoyment watching your videos. Especially when you found the silver 310. We are thankful you are alive and well after your inflight scary ordeal. Thank you once again for your enlightening videos and fun sense of humour! An unexpected $110.000 would put a dampener on any happy-go-lucky person's day. We are glad you are safe and sound sir! Looking forward to your future videos regarding this project. Take care!

  • @jimdavis6833
    @jimdavis6833 6 дней назад +1

    I remember back many years ago when I first joined the USAF, and my first permanent assignment was on F101Bs. I was assigned as assistant crew chief on our Commander's plane. None of our planes were painted, and my plane had to really outshine the rest. We used Nevr-dull, and if you think polishing your 310 was tough, you should try polishing one of the largest jet fighters ever made by McDonnell.

  • @K8DDD
    @K8DDD 10 дней назад +15

    Form an LLC and get a group of folks like you to fix the 310. Shared ownership

    • @onedaya_martian1238
      @onedaya_martian1238 8 дней назад +1

      Best suggestion !!

    • @JD96893
      @JD96893 8 дней назад

      Yeah! I'm sure lots of people would love to help work on it! I would definitely donate some money! The aircraft is still in pretty good condition.

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 7 дней назад

      Why on earth would anyone else buy into that?

    • @JD96893
      @JD96893 7 дней назад

      @@chuckschillingvideos because they don't want this plane to be abandoned.

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 7 дней назад

      @@JD96893 There's nothing special about this 310 as opposed to any other than Jimmy stupidly purchased it without having a prepurchase inspection performed by a competent mechanic.

  • @JimBronson
    @JimBronson 7 дней назад +4

    After watching this video, the old adage that "if it flies, floats or f***s, you shold rent it" comes to mind.

  • @BBG-512
    @BBG-512 9 дней назад +3

    Thanks for showing the ups and downs of plane ownership. Also the importance of plane maintenance and storage.

  • @jimsteinway695
    @jimsteinway695 9 дней назад +3

    So much better aviation content than the Elvis jet conversion.

  • @dalemu1944
    @dalemu1944 10 дней назад +11

    After watching a number of your RUclips videos, I'm convinced I'd need to win a Billion dollar Powerball just to afford the maintenance on a small single engine Cessna. This was a tough one Jimmy.

  • @bobwollard9105
    @bobwollard9105 10 дней назад +31

    Jimmy, it makes me sad to see the difficulties being encountered on this aircraft. Surely, the expense to get this girl up to snuff is a real choker. Keep in mind that having broadcast the damage assessment, it will serve as evidence in case the 310 continues flight. Any incident investigation will certainly refer to this video as knowledge of the various deficiencies in the structure. That is the cold, hard fact of restoration. God bless you, Jimmy. You've got a really difficult decision to make about the Silver Bullets future. The possibilities truly break my heart. I love these old birds. But reality is reality.

  • @budwonder1
    @budwonder1 2 дня назад +2

    go for it go fund me we are all out there for you SAVE THE 310 -- some people spend 10 years re building a car its a airplane you have come this far keep her alive

  • @RwP223
    @RwP223 9 дней назад +1

    Jimmy is a gentlemen 10:43 giving the mechanics flashlight back to him as soon as he was done using it. It's those little things that makes a big difference.

  • @hfc1969
    @hfc1969 10 дней назад +9

    If you own or are thinking about a Twin Cessna going to one of Tony's seminars is a MUST

  • @Scimiter1948
    @Scimiter1948 10 дней назад +4

    Wow Jim that was a really brilliant video, I can understand your dilemma regarding the cost of the repairs to the 310, it will be sad if she never flies again, but $120,000+ is a lot of money.
    Stay safe.

  • @Sometungsten
    @Sometungsten 9 дней назад

    Priceless education during this hour and a half. Thanks for posting and thanks to the TAS crew for not holding any punches.

  • @rogerlemon2064
    @rogerlemon2064 8 дней назад +1

    It’s so beautiful. It’s a show pony. The cost is insignificant if you love it. It will always attract attention at shows and everyone will know it’s Jimmy’s World and where to find you. Keep the dream alive…alternatively, it should be mothballed and put into a museum until a future buyer comes along to save her. It’ll be fine…

  • @oldschoolman1444
    @oldschoolman1444 10 дней назад +8

    Glad Jimmy is getting the 310 looked at. Every time I hear about a 310 crashing it always makes me wonder.

  • @jimpalmer1969
    @jimpalmer1969 10 дней назад +12

    The cladding is 1100 series alloy. It is rolled onto the substrate material in the mill at high temperature while the sheet is being rolled out from a block of substrate with a plate of clad material on the top and bottom. I would guess the substrate is 24-T3 which is an obsolete material that is equivalent to today's 2024-T3. 2000 series aluminum the primary alloying element is copper. 1000 series aluminum is nearly pure aluminum. what you see in the corrosion is where the clad material was chipped exposing the substrate. The substrate is protected from corrosion by the clad. This is why it is important to clear Alodine after polish. Save the 310, the sequel.

  • @alrad5686
    @alrad5686 8 дней назад +2

    Jimmy, I'd donate to a museum and take the write off before I'd part it out, but that's me. I can understand your passion, a lot of blood sweat and tears goes in to taking and older plane and doing the best you can to make it look and fly well. Sorry the news was so tough, but I had a feeling when I started watching. Good luck on your decision my friend.

  • @jimfisk4474
    @jimfisk4474 9 дней назад +2

    Gosh darn Jimmy and I was just getting ready to buy it. Well good luck with whatever you're going to do with it. You're the man.❤

  • @dwcorner7732
    @dwcorner7732 10 дней назад +3

    Hey Jimmy my suggestion is get out while you can, have all work stopped auction it off as a project plane only!

  • @dirtcurt1
    @dirtcurt1 10 дней назад +4

    The way I look at it is you can always buy a new one! With everything fixed just add it to the selling price. A new Barron is close to two million. Heck a loaded 172 is half million. You can get another one that is “airworthy “ and start all over again. You know that plane, fix it, keep it if you can’t sell it.

  • @richardthomas9263
    @richardthomas9263 2 дня назад

    I appreciate anyone that keeps these beautiful pieces of history in flying condition.

  • @brianesselbach9158
    @brianesselbach9158 9 дней назад

    Since I was a kid many, many decades ago (I was seven when your 310 was built) I have loved the 310. Sky King...310....310 one of the most beautiful in my book. This episode has been difficult, not as difficult as for you but still difficult. If I were only rich. I
    don't live that far from you (Land O Lakes, FL) I would love to come see it. You have turned it into such a beautiful example.

  • @Blackswan19874
    @Blackswan19874 10 дней назад +5

    SAVE THE 310 Jimmy !!
    You have to, you can’t abandon her now !! She’s worthy ! She’s a classic!

  • @DoctoreE644
    @DoctoreE644 3 дня назад

    I look back to all of the antique aircraft I have flown in, and worked on and I am in awe of the dedication of those who restore them for the sake of the generations that otherwise would have never seen them in the air. I have been up in a 1929 TavelAire elephant ear bi-plane, up over Orcas Island in Puget Sound. It was an anniversary flight for my second wife when we flew to Seattle to take the ferry up to Vancouver BC. We stopped overnight on the island and stayed at the historic hotel (are you noticing a trend here?), and saw an advert for a sightseeing flight, so we jumped at the chance! The owner and restorer was a retired US Navy pilot, and he took us on a tour of the islands up there, and then he put on some classical music as he lazily rolled through the clouds. It was quite extraordinary. Oh, back to my list, an Airecoupe, a Piper J-3 ( my dad owned them when I was a little boy, but I took flight as an adult), a number of K2 Kaydet Stearman biplanes, and others, of which my memory has lost track of, sadly. I have worked on a P-51 (installed a water injection system) and a North American Mitchell B-25, of which I redrew all the updated avionics and electrical mods for the FAA, so it could be certified airworthy. The biggest complement I got was from that inspector, who said "no, I don't want to see the original wiring diagrams, I want to see what you've done!". To which the owner replied "look at the dates". I had redone them all in the style and fonts of WWII schematics. Made my day!

  • @cg_justin_5327
    @cg_justin_5327 10 дней назад +1

    Excellent breakdown of issues from the MX team. Very professional and very thorough.

  • @SSgt-
    @SSgt- 10 дней назад +8

    Apparently owning a certified vintage aircraft is another way to financial depletion.

  • @MManeval
    @MManeval 10 дней назад +3

    OHHHHHHHHHH JIMMY! Dang brother!

  • @jb7486
    @jb7486 8 дней назад +1

    Very informative and educational video for individuals thinking about buying old aircraft. It was very straightforward of Jimmy to take it to the best Cessna twin shop for a “pre-auction” inspection. He had to know there was no way a rather rough 70 year old plane was not going to escape that shop without at least two or three serious issues being found which would be costly. And putting it out there for everyone to see says so much about him as person. If he sells it the buyer knows exactly what is up with this A/C.
    I’m looking forward to see what happens to this 310. With this A/C having what is basically a restoration done, someone can finish it with new interior and avionics and have a really nice antique A/C thats still versatile and flyable. Costly - sure - but all this work really makes it viable for many many years.

  • @JamesHand-ek9mg
    @JamesHand-ek9mg 6 дней назад +1

    Now THIS is the most accurate, and REAL depiction of Twin Ownership, nay AIRCRAFT ownership I have seen...Kudos!

  • @Avi8tor857
    @Avi8tor857 10 дней назад +9

    Looking around the horizontal stabilizer is between 1000-5000 used, and swapping it out is something you could do under A&P supervision (AKA how you do much of your work originally) The nose I would have them fix. The cracks behind the engines I would think can be stopped drilled and patched. The things like polishing off the burs and marks off the spar, can be done as you have with A&P supervision. I mean reskinning it isn't that difficult, it is something you and your team could also do, it is no more complicated than any vans airplane in assembly, assuming your A&P has the experience and willing to do it.
    Honestly I would not ferry it with the cracked skin on the tail. I'm not sure what the other "bee stings" are but I'm guessing most are not grounding issues and can be moved to watch list or done by your team.
    This I think is why so many owners are afraid of taking a plane to a shop like this, it is far too easy to mechanically total it.

    • @eagle2019
      @eagle2019 10 дней назад +2

      I've had two Twin Cessna's including a 421C and there is no one I would have work on them other than Tony!!!

    • @MikeCris
      @MikeCris 8 дней назад

      @@eagle2019 And you'll pay the price. The next owner will thank you.

    • @eagle2019
      @eagle2019 8 дней назад +3

      @@MikeCris I really don't care about the next owner. I know that when I and my family board the aircraft and I hit those start switches, my aircraft is in the best condition it can be and is safe! The first time you take a "new to you" aircraft for its annual, you will pay a high price for all the differed maintenance the previous owners skipped or were unaware of because the shop was not experienced in the make and model. Subsequent annuals are no where near as expensive.

    • @chriscusick6890
      @chriscusick6890 7 дней назад

      Hopefully someone could donate the necessary parts and Jimmy's crew could replace them.

  • @rollandsicard1628
    @rollandsicard1628 10 дней назад +8

    Jimmy, this brings back A LOT of memories. Worked on 310/320 nose gear mounted Avionics. Left the nose gear doors unlatched and customer flew it. Retracted nose gear thru blown shut nose gear doors. Unjammed the gear and got it back to maintenance. As the Avionics Tech, I was not blamed. Pilot should have caught loose nose gear doors on pre-flight. That was one first employment. Second employment at (Burlington) Northern Airmotive Mpls. MN. Became autopilot and Pitot Static tester specialist. Fixed all kinds of Autopilots (many flight tests) and Pitot Static systems. New Cessna A/C leaked liked sivs. Once I got done, they stayed leak free. Many maintenance issue fixed singles and multi-engines. Many different autopilots.

  • @Jigsaw407
    @Jigsaw407 9 дней назад +1

    So sorry to hear all that. On the upside: Marla was probably the sweetest person with the most pleasant and soothing voice that you could hope for breaking the news to you. 😉

  • @M_MTsc
    @M_MTsc 10 дней назад +1

    I feel your pain. I used to own a 1963 172D. I spend way more money on restoring it than what it was worth. But like you say it's about the memories. I eventually sold it to buy a T206 and the selling price didn't even cover the paint job. I never regretted it though.

  • @billjamison2877
    @billjamison2877 10 дней назад +33

    SAVE THE 310 Jimmy!

  • @1954shadow
    @1954shadow 10 дней назад +34

    Donate the Silver Bullet to a museum

    • @mmccon2007
      @mmccon2007 9 дней назад +1

      I thought the same. I wonder what kind of a write-off he could get?

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 7 дней назад

      You'd have to find one that wants it.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 дней назад

      @@chuckschillingvideos Crash it on live stream with several go pro rigged up

  • @tsb-2489
    @tsb-2489 8 дней назад

    My Air Force career started on the Cessna Skymaster! AND the Cessna OA37a/b. I recall our greatest challenge was measuring the track gap the Nose Gear followed as it retracted. Working by feel!

  • @tallishyeti2756
    @tallishyeti2756 6 дней назад

    I saw this coming when you said you were bringing it to TAS. A lot of deterioration happens in the 60+ year age of these airplanes. You know at the end of the maintance event you will have one of the best twin Cessnas out there but that peace of mind does not come cheap.

  • @kimkeam2094
    @kimkeam2094 10 дней назад +8

    As an addendum, I’m so glad my aircraft is a homebuilt wooden aircraft called a Corby Starlet. Aluminium and corrosion is not a concern.

    • @williamoorejr
      @williamoorejr 10 дней назад +9

      termites

    • @flyluv737
      @flyluv737 10 дней назад +9

      Wood airplanes have their own set of concerns that make aluminum look down right trouble free

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 10 дней назад +1

      @@flyluv737I own both and would pick a cloth and wood plane any day over aluminum.

    • @flyluv737
      @flyluv737 10 дней назад +1

      @@adamr9215 I’ve had both too… leave them both outside for a year and then get back to me.

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 10 дней назад +1

      @@flyluv737 I wouldn’t do that to either. If you do, you shouldn’t own a plane.

  • @davecat1458
    @davecat1458 10 дней назад +13

    Don't love something that don't love you back. Great acting.

  • @dandavidson9458
    @dandavidson9458 7 дней назад

    Wow! Great channel. I maintained many, many, many of these old twin Cessna's when they weren't old. Great videos. Nostalgia city.

  • @davidnelson8081
    @davidnelson8081 7 дней назад

    Looks like a good MRO. All the staff did a great job detailing and explaining their findings. This airplane has now received a complete and accurate Annual Inspection. Sorry about the shock of it but it's a good education for you

  • @gthree0239
    @gthree0239 10 дней назад +6

    Jimmy, I know I said this in a comment on a different video, but I flew to Sacramento drove to Auburn and looked at that 310. Unfortunately (or now fortunately) covid was happening and I was unsure about my future employment so I couldn’t pull the trigger and buy that plane. I still think it’s a great plane, and I’m glad to see you bringing it back to life. I know you’ll be the one person who’ll be able to figure out a way to scrounge $125,000 to Save The 310.

  • @psilver063
    @psilver063 10 дней назад

    Tony is crazy knowledgeable man! That man knows his shit and if he says fix it I would fix it!

  • @williamwerner
    @williamwerner 9 дней назад

    Makes me appreciate my Velocity (fiberglass) so much more….my condolences Jimmy.

  • @terrallputnam7979
    @terrallputnam7979 10 дней назад +10

    Jimmy, I feel for you brother.

  • @Mark-ww9sb
    @Mark-ww9sb 10 дней назад +10

    This company is amazing. Great to see an organisation that really knows its onions.
    Perhaps you could do a re-run of the Elvis Jet and convert it to something else? I nominate a nuclear submarine...

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 10 дней назад

      Are you an expert on the Cessna 310?

    • @Mark-ww9sb
      @Mark-ww9sb 10 дней назад +1

      Not at all but I enjoyed watching the expert assessment.

  • @stevesp38
    @stevesp38 10 дней назад

    A polished aluminum airplane is one of the most beautiful finishes you can get. Your 310 is gorgeous. I am sure you will come up with some type of plan to save her. Like you said, it is about the memories it has and will continue to create. I served with the Air Force for 37 years (21 Active Duty and 16 as a Civil Service mechanic). I worked on F-15's (A-E models) some of which were built before I graduated from high school (1980) and U-2's which were very old. Of course, I am comparing apples to oranges with this analogy, but old airplanes can be maintained and kept airworthy. I agree with bingwrite7099. It is nice to see maintainers get some spotlight. I really hope you are able to find the means to keep this airplane airworthy.

  • @wareairaviationservicesllc4933
    @wareairaviationservicesllc4933 9 дней назад +1

    You are really good with cliff hangers. I was feeling like this video was really hard to watch as this is real life, and I even told my 12 year old son, I bet Jimmy has a "Catch" at the end and you didnt disappoint.

  • @Anonymous99997
    @Anonymous99997 10 дней назад +12

    Maybe Mike Patey would buy it as the ornament for his new FBO.

    • @fredbugden6935
      @fredbugden6935 10 дней назад +1

      You know he'd just rebuild it out of carbon fibre and bolt up some PT -6s

  • @hawk6dm7
    @hawk6dm7 10 дней назад +17

    I had a Cessna 172 once that I had $120.000 into. When I sold it, it sold for half that. You never make money on selling well maintained aircraft. It always costs more to properly maintain it than you will ever get out of it.

    • @jimpalmer1969
      @jimpalmer1969 10 дней назад +3

      It's called deferred maintenance. Every airplane has it. Airlines devote entire engineering departments to figuring out how to defer maintenance.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 дней назад

      @@jimpalmer1969 No they don't 😂😂😂 airline industry has strict rules regarding maintenance and inspection. It's a totally different ball game to general aviation

  • @betlw
    @betlw 8 дней назад

    Jimmy this was a great, thank you for sharing, I really appreciated your extended patience when getting the run down on the turbo exhausts. I really enjoyed the precision and logic of the engineers’ (sorry lost his name) explanation.
    I hope to see more of this detailed realism videos again thank you for sharing your passion and intermittent pain.
    Emil

  • @justinpakarno4346
    @justinpakarno4346 10 дней назад

    I learned a lot about planes here. TAS really use a fine tooth comb. Best of luck Jim.

  • @airtek4809
    @airtek4809 10 дней назад +5

    That still didn't answer our questions.
    Jimmy.

  • @RMSadventures-ie4fr
    @RMSadventures-ie4fr 10 дней назад +11

    Trevor Jacob would be more then happy to test fly your plane and film it for his youtube channel. of course you'll have to go drag the pieces out of the mountains after he bails out once again just for views and subs. LOL

  • @chris47374
    @chris47374 8 дней назад

    That plane is a polished thing of beauty 😍

  • @gearjammin_bluesman
    @gearjammin_bluesman 9 дней назад +1

    Another great video!
    Your channel is addictive and I really hope this one will be back in the skies soon.

  • @berniebrown9115
    @berniebrown9115 10 дней назад +30

    Part it out Jimmy and cut your bad investment. Just about the time you get it back with spending 125000 on it you will need to overhaul engines

    • @Irontrucker
      @Irontrucker 10 дней назад +1

      Yessss

    • @rickwiggins283
      @rickwiggins283 7 дней назад

      That's the sane answer. No way it's going to be $125,000 either. $150,000 - $200,000+ easy. Remember there are parts they don't make any more and may need fabrication from scratch. And after all that you are stuck with an aircraft that has design flaws. (Not necessarily knocking Cessna ... this is just what often happens with early variants.)

  • @mangopog9814
    @mangopog9814 10 дней назад +3

    Well thanks for teaching me, and after learning, driving or walking is my mode of transportation 😂😂😂😂😂, seriously flying is a money pit and the reason most don’t play.

  • @tobyz.3452
    @tobyz.3452 6 дней назад

    WOW Jimmy. . . .what a gut punch.
    HOWEVER.... its a great video with a realistic look at what it will take if preventive maintenance was not embraced.
    May God Bless the outcome and you land on your feet.

  • @timcorcoran1577
    @timcorcoran1577 10 дней назад

    The 310 takes me back to sky king. The most beautiful plane in the world. .Song Bird. Penny and Sky..I miss those days...save the 310!!!

  • @kimkeam2094
    @kimkeam2094 10 дней назад +10

    Jimmy, how come your hair isn’t all grey?!! I am looking at the hours to repair it and the dollars that will be consumed for a successful restoration. Man, you always have my respect that you can handle the stress.

    • @DQQ167
      @DQQ167 10 дней назад +1

      Just for men is a great thing

    • @higgydufrane
      @higgydufrane 10 дней назад +2

      Grey? It should be Snow White.....

  • @TreDeuce-qw3kv
    @TreDeuce-qw3kv 7 дней назад +2

    My step-grandfather, an accomplished Bush pilot who owned an FBO had among other planes a beautiful 310. I once asked him why he rarely flew it and he said... "I'm afraid of it" .

  • @henrikruckmann6321
    @henrikruckmann6321 5 дней назад

    Beautiful, elegant and organic like vintage sport cars. For looks the matte finish is also pretty special and smooth. Keep it alive somehow! :)

  • @fatratz2012
    @fatratz2012 10 дней назад +13

    time to sell it to rebuild rescue!

  • @douglasberard8664
    @douglasberard8664 10 дней назад +5

    Talk about padding the bill, Jimmy should get a complimentary jar of Vasaline with that bill.🤗

    • @fredbugden6935
      @fredbugden6935 10 дней назад +2

      Just the cost of having professionals fix it right.