What a great looking, timeless design. Piper knew what they were doing with these. Great video to start a snowy Saturday! Thank you for taking us along on the adventure, Rebuild Rescue!
Yep. I worked aviation for 45 years. Mostly structures but avionics and commercial engines also. I'm retired now and we do need the new blood to maintain these wonderful machines.
Im a commercial student at the flight school connect to the SFU maintenance school. Really cool to see you going through this plane and looking foward to seeing it show up at the school
The polishing buffer is primed and ready the kroil did its job and the baby started to show signs of life. This will be a monster for the school nice one jason and the RR Crew
We recovered a 250 a few years ago that had been hangared unused for over 35 years. We removed the wings for transport. I’m glad we did as when we were reassembling we found major chafing of the fuel lines from the wings to the fuselage as well as evidence of arcing on some of the wiring looms.
Where was the fire extinguisher? I believe in a previous video you absolutely recommended an extinguisher be at the ready when starting an aircraft that had been sitting or had engine work done. This one qualified for both.
@@BrilliantDesignOnline actually you just want to get a ferry permit and leave the gear down during that flight to the A&P school. Let them do the thorough annual inspection That would be the most cost-effective and safest way to its destination.
yes that was what I used back in the 1972 time frame learning to Fly and some IFR training Hood for private pilot in a Cessna 152 also flight training in Piper Archers in that time frame.
Another good candidate for rescue found. I know you have a lot of work just to get it ready for the ferry flight and even more when you get it home, but this looks like a good, solid airframe and powerplant.
@@JohnMckeown-dl2cl I hate to tell you, but they don't want to do a ferry flight, They want to do an annual inspection on the cheap just like they did on the cougar that crashed, they will never learn.
Did you look at the video when they did the annual on the cougar, it appears they never checked if the feathering system on the propellers actually worked and that would cause serious drag if one engine failed, and that's a fact
Have a very nice 250 Comanche beside our warrior at nc05. If I ever wanted a complex that’s the one, they’re a nice airplane, good interior room and stable to fly.
Sir you are definitely the eternal optimist... Why would you go through the trouble of a ferry permit if it's going to a a&p school. I would think you would just remove the wings and truck it there. Just my thoughts Good luck.😊
It's Saturday and you know what that means Jayson and his craziness...Thanks guys for once again bringing us along for yet another rescue...God Bless and take care
She's a good airplane."DGA". I learned to pilot/fly light aircraft in a Cherokee. A Comanche is faster. A Beauty. I never needed high performance licensing, my hours are all fixed gear, VFR but now I'm genuinely envious. Man you know she will fly like a champion. Really, I love your new airplane. Thanks so much for sharing. J. from Michigan.
What a beautiful airplane. It's definitely not a rebuild Rescue plane; there are no nests. I'm sure that paint will buff out. 😜 In all seriousness, thank you for another awesome Saturday morning. Take care everyone. Be safe.
There will be a mouse nest in the belly, below the floor pans. They will nest in one spot and (acidic) pee in another. You will find corrosion, even though there is zinc chromate paint on the aluminum.
What? That is an IFR hood for practice during the day light and training for the instrument rating. Now I am a lot older than you two and earned my private in 1974 and am now 80. Shocked you did not know what that was.
I looked up this registration, it’s in PA and was recently renewed. It is owned by a local PA corporation. You all spin a good story that keeps the channel alive. Making content is difficult. These barn/hangar finds of older airplanes keep people’s interest.
Yes!!! Another Comanche! Love the paint scheme. Regarding your leaking oil comment, my Comanche doesn’t leak. I swear they’re just so over engineered, they’re the best plane Piper ever made. And of course the Lycoming O-540 is such a great engine.
I don't know when this last flew, but it won't be before 2019, as that's when the Garmin 530 came out. I mean, nobody would fit something like that, to never fly it. Absolutely love this channel.
That's soooooo cool !!! I've been working on my Commercial Cert at Nulton Aviation. They are teamed up with SFU, and we are in the same building as the hanger as that short vid you showed. Can't wait to see it at the school. FYI... I'm building a Sonex, and my cowling is getting built using the metal break in the SFU hanger.
The battery box is NOT in perfect condition. There may have been a battery left installed over winter and froze up, cracking the case. The corrosion evident at the lower back corner indicates there may be some damage to the belly skins and/or longerons. If that is the case, it might require those lower panels to be removed and damaged parts replaced. BTDT on an Arrow. We got it in time and only had to remove some skins and treat every part that had acid on it with baking soda. The battery boxes are supposed to be sealed and leak proof with drain tubes installed and venting out the belly. Sometimes they corrode off and then you get those white crusty deposits showing up. Bad news.
You need to find a woman electrician who's 4'11" to add to the team. Those tiny hands are perfect for tracing faulty wiring in tight spaces like an airplane.
Check to see if the avionics bus is powered by a relay. If the relay is bad that would explain why the avionics won’t power up. Got to be something simple there.
A tripping breaker is more typically caused by a short to ground causing a circuit overload. A bad ground can in extreme cases cause an overload if arcing, but it won’t normally cause an immediate trip. The rodent damage is much more likely.
What a great episode! Always fun to hear them start up. It sounds like you always have them sold before we see the episode.... how does one get on the list to get one of these beauties before they are already sold? 😎
Looks like someone put it up for storage with some oil down in the cylinders for corrosion protection. I've found with cars and a few planes that a dirt floor can be better than concrete with condensation being worse on concrete long term.
Wow, Collins Microline Nav-750. I used to work on those about 40 years ago before the line got shut down. Hated to see them go as they were engineered really well.
The oil temp didn't look like it was up to spec before the prop was exercised, I've been told that's a big no-no I wonder if they damage the propeller by not letting the oil temp come up to specification?
I think I heard the owner created this airport. I want to say the airport started and he was busy in the business and stopped flying. He may have loaded oil in the top of the cylinders to store. Short indicates breakers popping. Open means nothing happens. (broken wire).
That IFR hood brought back memories of 1977 when I took a biannual flight review with Helen, a friend of Charles Lindburg and the Wright Brothers. I had a Bellanca Tripple Tail and she thought I was instrument rated. She started the IFR flight review almost as soon as the wheels left the ground, and I passed. When someone her age, who has been forced down 16 times, and she tells you how to survive you listen. Fortunately I never needed her lesson.
A ground is a short... direct current to ground. popping breakers mean electricity is has found a direct path to the ground. It travels threw the least resistance path to ground.
Hi Jason, love the content. I went to University and qualified just as covid struck with a qualification in Aeronautical Engineering at the worst time. now i cannot get into the industry here in the UK and cannot get the sponsorship in the USA. its a big shame.
you guys should definitely be working together with Corey Benson from Corey Benson Aviation. He's got lots of good people and tons of stories to tell...
I'm confused, why are you going through the expense of an annual inspection when you can check the log books for AD compliance, do a very thorough inspection and engine run up/taxy test and then get a ferry permit to move the aircraft to the A&P school. Then once it's at the A&P school let them do the annual inspection under the supervision of a mechanic with IA privileges. That's how you should approach this project.
A ferry permit requires someone to sign off that all ADs are complied with. That is not going to happen, without extensive work. For instance, there is one on the stabilator torque tube. Good luck getting the stabs off if it has a lot of rust on it. And if the rust is bad enough, say hello to a new tube.
@i.r.wayright1457 Well you don't have to do any work until you actually do the AD check in the log books, maybe that AD has already been complied with? But certainly it's cheaper to do a AD review of the log books then doing a complete annual inspection of the aircraft.
@@i.r.wayright1457 All ADs do not have to be complied with for a ferry permit; only the ones that prohibit flight before compliance. I've done countless ferry permits and sometimes we fly with an open AD.
A little odd to see the brake fluid container having a dent in it. It is quite the surprise that there isn't any birds nests inside the engine compartment if there had been a lot of birds in the hanger.
I can't believe it the engine is not covered in bird %@#@%$ or nests! You should find out what their secret was to keeping mice from the interior. (I take that back 😞)
need to check.drain the fuel does av gas keep? So a shopping list tires,and fuel tank bladders, annual. Then what ever is the issue with the coms fuse. Still lube stuff. bleed the brakes need to taxi it. run ups mag check high speed taxi stop. fly with a ferry permit, Get her going get some heat into the block. some wide open throttle new battery
That is a cool looking panel! Too bad you'll probably need to hack it up to make it current. Also, how is it possible that none of you recognize a view limiting device??? %^)
Ou can still fly instrument approaches with that panel. As long as you have the equipment needed for the approach, you can do the approach. The old "steam gauges" are still usable.
With the magnetic North Pole moving into the sea of Finland and then moving more to the East into Russia - how are compasses in planes keeping up ? Our orbit is also screwed up as well. Astronomy is messed up I suspect so are the magnetics.
Absolutely love that vintage red and white paint scheme! So classy!
What a great looking, timeless design. Piper knew what they were doing with these. Great video to start a snowy Saturday! Thank you for taking us along on the adventure, Rebuild Rescue!
Yep. I worked aviation for 45 years. Mostly structures but avionics and commercial engines also. I'm retired now and we do need the new blood to maintain these wonderful machines.
I don't know how the training of new people is done. The people retiring, or who have retired, can get new jobs as teachers of the new blood.
Yikes. That plane looks pretty crusty. Love seeing you get these old planes up and running again instead of just sitting in hangars.
Im a commercial student at the flight school connect to the SFU maintenance school. Really cool to see you going through this plane and looking foward to seeing it show up at the school
The polishing buffer is primed and ready the kroil did its job and the baby started to show signs of life. This will be a monster for the school nice one jason and the RR Crew
We recovered a 250 a few years ago that had been hangared unused for over 35 years. We removed the wings for transport. I’m glad we did as when we were reassembling we found major chafing of the fuel lines from the wings to the fuselage as well as evidence of arcing on some of the wiring looms.
Love seeing work on these smaller planes. Wish I could afford to get my license so I could fly one :)
All it takes is money and time
Where was the fire extinguisher? I believe in a previous video you absolutely recommended an extinguisher be at the ready when starting an aircraft that had been sitting or had engine work done. This one qualified for both.
I love watching this channel with my son every Saturday morning! I truly hope that when he's older, he's interested in getting his PPL.
It's always good hearing from you Brother. Awesome to have your son watching with you, he'll definitely be inspired from watching 🤣😂
Done right. Glad you fired it up. Maybe jack it and swing the gear, just to be sure. All things considered, it is in great shape.
@@BrilliantDesignOnline actually you just want to get a ferry permit and leave the gear down during that flight to the A&P school. Let them do the thorough annual inspection That would be the most cost-effective and safest way to its destination.
Another nice find Jason. Looks like you will have a good one there, provided the wiring damage is not extensive.
yes that was what I used back in the 1972 time frame learning to Fly and some IFR training Hood for private pilot in a Cessna 152 also flight training in Piper Archers in that time frame.
Wow that's awesome John. We are so excited about this Rescue and glad to have you with us on the channel
I learned to fly in a Cessna 150 then I started flying a Piper Archer...loved flying the Archer I lost my medical so now I just watch other people fly
Another good candidate for rescue found. I know you have a lot of work just to get it ready for the ferry flight and even more when you get it home, but this looks like a good, solid airframe and powerplant.
@@JohnMckeown-dl2cl I hate to tell you, but they don't want to do a ferry flight, They want to do an annual inspection on the cheap just like they did on the cougar that crashed, they will never learn.
@@christophergagliano2051you mean the crash that was obvious pilot error? Where Sam was in a hurry and didn’t do a complete preflight.
@kylertinkler1860 Well this was a very experienced pilot so you need to look at the feathering mechanism on the propellers.
Did you look at the video when they did the annual on the cougar, it appears they never checked if the feathering system on the propellers actually worked and that would cause serious drag if one engine failed, and that's a fact
Have a very nice 250 Comanche beside our warrior at nc05. If I ever wanted a complex that’s the one, they’re a nice airplane, good interior room and stable to fly.
Sir you are definitely the eternal optimist... Why would you go through the trouble of a ferry permit if it's going to a a&p school. I would think you would just remove the wings and truck it there. Just my thoughts Good luck.😊
It's Saturday and you know what that means Jayson and his craziness...Thanks guys for once again bringing us along for yet another rescue...God Bless and take care
She's a good airplane."DGA". I learned to pilot/fly light aircraft in a Cherokee. A Comanche is faster. A Beauty. I never needed high performance licensing, my hours are all fixed gear, VFR but now I'm genuinely envious. Man you know she will fly like a champion. Really, I love your new airplane. Thanks so much for sharing. J. from Michigan.
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What a beautiful airplane. It's definitely not a rebuild Rescue plane; there are no nests. I'm sure that paint will buff out. 😜 In all seriousness, thank you for another awesome Saturday morning. Take care everyone. Be safe.
There will be a mouse nest in the belly, below the floor pans. They will nest in one spot and (acidic) pee in another. You will find corrosion, even though there is zinc chromate paint on the aluminum.
What? That is an IFR hood for practice during the day light and training for the instrument rating. Now I am a lot older than you two and earned my private in 1974 and am now 80. Shocked you did not know what that was.
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I disassembled that prop the other day
on that plane?
Can’t wait to see the awesome job you guys do overhauling that prop !
Birds again, but the Comanche looks promising
I love seeing the Hartzell Propellers on these planes. Hartzell Propeller is in my hometown, and many of my family members worked there.
I wish I had a plane like this! I always wanted a plane ever sense I was 3😅😊
Such a sharp looking Comanche! Those gauges look so good and shows how advanced aviation was in the 60's.
I looked up this registration, it’s in PA and was recently renewed. It is owned by a local PA corporation. You all spin a good story that keeps the channel alive. Making content is difficult.
These barn/hangar finds of older airplanes keep people’s interest.
Beautiful plane
Hand propping is a good thing to know , My CFI taught me how to hand prop when I soled because the 150 I was training in had a starter issue !
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Another great Rebuild Rescue!! Thanks guys..
Thank you!
Yes!!! Another Comanche! Love the paint scheme. Regarding your leaking oil comment, my Comanche doesn’t leak. I swear they’re just so over engineered, they’re the best plane Piper ever made. And of course the Lycoming O-540 is such a great engine.
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I don't know when this last flew, but it won't be before 2019, as that's when the Garmin 530 came out. I mean, nobody would fit something like that, to never fly it.
Absolutely love this channel.
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Another great video!!!
Hope the warrior behind you sold !
Great job guys!
That's soooooo cool !!! I've been working on my Commercial Cert at Nulton Aviation. They are teamed up with SFU, and we are in the same building as the hanger as that short vid you showed. Can't wait to see it at the school. FYI... I'm building a Sonex, and my cowling is getting built using the metal break in the SFU hanger.
The battery box is NOT in perfect condition. There may have been a battery left installed over winter and froze up, cracking the case. The corrosion evident at the lower back corner indicates there may be some damage to the belly skins and/or longerons. If that is the case, it might require those lower panels to be removed and damaged parts replaced. BTDT on an Arrow. We got it in time and only had to remove some skins and treat every part that had acid on it with baking soda. The battery boxes are supposed to be sealed and leak proof with drain tubes installed and venting out the belly. Sometimes they corrode off and then you get those white crusty deposits showing up. Bad news.
You need to find a woman electrician who's 4'11" to add to the team. Those tiny hands are perfect for tracing faulty wiring in tight spaces like an airplane.
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Nice time capsule guys, but it looks like a lot of work..❤
Check to see if the avionics bus is powered by a relay. If the relay is bad that would explain why the avionics won’t power up. Got to be something simple there.
WOW 😮. Get the electrical issue tracked down and you’ve got a good candidate there. That’s way cool. Check out the brakes and take off.
inb4 the inevitable "WhErE's ThE 4o1" comments.
A tripping breaker is more typically caused by a short to ground causing a circuit overload. A bad ground can in extreme cases cause an overload if arcing, but it won’t normally cause an immediate trip. The rodent damage is much more likely.
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What a great episode! Always fun to hear them start up. It sounds like you always have them sold before we see the episode.... how does one get on the list to get one of these beauties before they are already sold? 😎
i love your movie's.greetings from Amsterdam
Love your channel!! Suggestion: Use an iPad instead of an iPhone when you’re scoping the cylinders so that we as the viewers have a better picture.
Thanks for the tip! Great idea
Looks like someone put it up for storage with some oil down in the cylinders for corrosion protection. I've found with cars and a few planes that a dirt floor can be better than concrete with condensation being worse on concrete long term.
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Wow, Collins Microline Nav-750. I used to work on those about 40 years ago before the line got shut down. Hated to see them go as they were engineered really well.
Do they have the .25 frequencies?
The oil temp didn't look like it was up to spec before the prop was exercised, I've been told that's a big no-no I wonder if they damage the propeller by not letting the oil temp come up to specification?
I want the Austin. Oh, way too late! 😂
I have a 1959 DeSoto Fireflite that's red and white and this aircraft would be a perfect match for it.
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That’s the hood for instrument training.
How she goin ehhh boys 💪💪
I think I heard the owner created this airport. I want to say the airport started and he was busy in the business and stopped flying. He may have loaded oil in the top of the cylinders to store. Short indicates breakers popping. Open means nothing happens. (broken wire).
Find Kenneth lang he's a grate wire guy and ffa license last AZ state😊.
Did ghostbuster teach you nothing? Crossing streams can make the stream more powerful! 😂
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That IFR hood brought back memories of 1977 when I took a biannual flight review with Helen, a friend of Charles Lindburg and the Wright Brothers. I had a Bellanca Tripple Tail and she thought I was instrument rated. She started the IFR flight review almost as soon as the wheels left the ground, and I passed. When someone her age, who has been forced down 16 times, and she tells you how to survive you listen. Fortunately I never needed her lesson.
Suggestion: Use an iPad instead of an iPhone when you’re scoping the cylinders so that we as the viewers have a better picture.
Keep it up I try to watch the video’s
That isa great aeroplane, nice 'find'
A ground is a short... direct current to ground. popping breakers mean electricity is has found a direct path to the ground. It travels threw the least resistance path to ground.
Shelf life seems to be a couple years for the oil
find a Comanche 400 for a rescue!!!
I'm with Jimmy...what could possibly go wrong???
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Joe your teeth look really nice and white
Hi Jason, love the content. I went to University and qualified just as covid struck with a qualification in Aeronautical Engineering at the worst time. now i cannot get into the industry here in the UK and cannot get the sponsorship in the USA. its a big shame.
Great video✈️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dear Mr. Morrison,
Hope this Piper Chatokee 250 will fly
you guys should definitely be working together with Corey Benson from Corey Benson Aviation. He's got lots of good people and tons of stories to tell...
I'm confused, why are you going through the expense of an annual inspection when you can check the log books for AD compliance, do a very thorough inspection and engine run up/taxy test and then get a ferry permit to move the aircraft to the A&P school. Then once it's at the A&P school let them do the annual inspection under the supervision of a mechanic with IA privileges. That's how you should approach this project.
A ferry permit requires someone to sign off that all ADs are complied with. That is not going to happen, without extensive work. For instance, there is one on the stabilator torque tube. Good luck getting the stabs off if it has a lot of rust on it. And if the rust is bad enough, say hello to a new tube.
@i.r.wayright1457 Well you don't have to do any work until you actually do the AD check in the log books, maybe that AD has already been complied with? But certainly it's cheaper to do a AD review of the log books then doing a complete annual inspection of the aircraft.
@@i.r.wayright1457 All ADs do not have to be complied with for a ferry permit; only the ones that prohibit flight before compliance. I've done countless ferry permits and sometimes we fly with an open AD.
Did I spy a headset in the back of the aircraft?? Are you having another raffle for those because I need em lol.
The hood is for training instrument flying. Hence the term flying under the hood.
That GNS should be turned ON by that small top left volume knob i think. Not the dual bottom one for freq dialing.
A little odd to see the brake fluid container having a dent in it. It is quite the surprise that there isn't any birds nests inside the engine compartment if there had been a lot of birds in the hanger.
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It's starting to get cold out
10:44 do they not use those for ifr training anymore? Last time my dad flew was an ifr check ride in the 90's and he used that.
New old oil loses its protection package. Lake Speed Jr the engine oil geek has data to show that. Do not use old oil.
The manufacturer specifies shelf life in the MSDS (or whatever it's called these days). I wouldn't touch that old oil, personally.
Great rescue Jason, stay safe!!!
Have a good weekend. Thank you for supporting us!
What is the future of these old planes that you are saving when their old Continental 100ll AVGAS engines can no longer be run on leaded fuel?
That's a Lycoming engine. Continental also makes engines. And 100LL will be available until an approved alternative is found, so far still till 2030.
no mouse pee, no bird nest...I don't know, it makes me nervous. Am I watching the wrong channel?
You should rename this channel to "Airplane projects started and never finished"
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I think you’re missing a few projects Joe !
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I can't believe it the engine is not covered in bird %@#@%$ or nests! You should find out what their secret was to keeping mice from the interior. (I take that back 😞)
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10:30 - blast shield (Luke Skywalker used them).
need to check.drain the fuel does av gas keep? So a shopping list tires,and fuel tank bladders, annual. Then what ever is the issue with the coms fuse. Still lube stuff. bleed the brakes need to taxi it. run ups mag check high speed taxi stop. fly with a ferry permit, Get her going get some heat into the block. some wide open throttle new battery
I’d put that cage mouse trap from Amazon in the cabin overnight. If the mouse is alive, he’ll find his way into it.
401 status?
Awaiting parts
Come on over here at this airport and pick your choice in
Have you checked the status of the AD on the stabilator horn? (AD 2012-17-06). It's pretty involved and requires removal of the stabilizers.
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It is a vacuum drive attitude indicator. Engine needs this start before it will come alive
Trip down memory lane
Ref 401
Doing Good
I bet the cam and lifters are rusty. Better plan on rebuilding the engine bottom end.
You didn't know that head gear thing is for instrument training "the hood"
Seeing you guys work your magic inspires me to want to get into aviation.
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That is a cool looking panel! Too bad you'll probably need to hack it up to make it current. Also, how is it possible that none of you recognize a view limiting device??? %^)
Ou can still fly instrument approaches with that panel. As long as you have the equipment needed for the approach, you can do the approach. The old "steam gauges" are still usable.
With the magnetic North Pole moving into the sea of Finland and then moving more to the East into Russia - how are compasses in planes keeping up ? Our orbit is also screwed up as well. Astronomy is messed up I suspect so are the magnetics.
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add a alternator belt and possibly alternator
Analog af🎉❤
Wouldn’t it serve the school better not to have the plane running? Teaching the students what they may experience and learn seems better.
Is there something to reduce tire rot especially when exposed to sunlight?
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Tell us you didn't pat that for that $10,000 airplane????
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I bat you it well fly 😅
I’m a DPE in Altoona now