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I think the big challenge is having enough data to prove to regulators that it’s safe to a point where no human interaction is needed. Tesla is aiming very high compare to Google and others. They don’t rely limit their geographical operation which means they need to build a solution that works everywhere regardless of the conditions. So that will take a while, if I had to guess, I would say another 3-5 years to get to a point where things are perfected and interventions are extremely rare. With Tesla updating the hardware, it might delay things a little.

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But it was going to miss it. When I took over, it was already too late. Had to drive over a plain line to get it back to the right lane. If that’s the reason, minimal lane change needs to still follow the route.

Almost never

I think I’m going to stick to this then. Plus roof recording doesn’t work in winter with the cold battery of GoPro dies

Yes. As a suburbanite- I know , that I have trouble with the route. It is insane. Local knowledge essential. If it can manage that ( it did better than I do :) ). Cant wait for my FSD activation.

Thanks! Will do

Yep, it’s not improving.

@@FrenchieFSD is your car an older model? I am mentally keeping track of who has these issues.

@@princeofexcess Built in Jan 2019. It has 3.0 computer.

She'd wait until I'm done the recording and then she'd say with a silly voice: "Not want to die today. Please fix."

Not sure about regulations but my opinion is that we shouldn't be too far from L3 on highway.

L3 does not require the driver to monitor the drive, and allows a reasonable time for the driver to take over when conditions for engagement are no longer met-Mercedes allows 10 seconds. This is much easier to do at 40 MPH on precision-mapped highways where Mercedes Drive Pilot operates; much, much more difficult in a city environment, where the driver must occasionally take back control immediately, or at high speeds on a non-precision-mapped road or highway.

@@BigBen621 I often hear people say that L3 doesn’t require the driver’s immediate attention but that is not what I read when I look it up: “would enable the vehicle to handle "all aspects of the driving" when engaged but still need the driver attentive enough to promptly take control if necessary” To me that says that Tesla has achieved that.

​@@jonathanlivingston7358 The difference is primarily in the time allowed for the driver to take back control when required. You didn't say where you looked this up; but the seminal document on levels of automation, SAE J3016 APR 2021 makes the following distinctions, in Table 2. Under Level 2, the driver must *supervise* FSD, and intervene as necessary to maintain operation of the vehicle. And the key statement is that the driver " *immediately* [takes over driving] whenever required or desired". If you have a Tesla with FSD, you're aware that this is quite dramatic; the display shows red hands on the steering wheel; there's a loud "beep beep beep" signal; and FSD disengages *immediately* . If you don't take over right away, the car just drifts along on its own. Under Level 3, there's no requirement for the driver to supervise FSD, but must be "receptive to a request to intervene and responds by [taking over driving] in a timely manner". So the driver doesn't have to continually monitor the system, but can't be asleep, either. And the system "[d]isengages *an appropriate time* after issuing a request to intervene", rather than immediately which the Level 2 FSD beta does. Mercedes has adopted 10 seconds as "an appropriate time", which you can see in the recent Drive Pilot videos; and it seems likely that this will become the de facto standard. So as I interpret the SAE standard, as long as FSD beta throws control back to the driver immediately when it chokes, it'll remain a Level 2 ADAS.

You are right. No turn signal. “Near perfect”

I used to have Joe Mode on but got a crash last week and reset all my settings. I'll make sure it's enabled again.

Haha that’s not the nicest part indeed

When I’m not recording, I take over every time when I see a pothole. Chicago roads are really bad

Have you turned it on? In the car go to settings (car icon on bottom left), click autopilot, make sure Full Self Driving is on

I think that won’t happen. Due to the recall of the NHTSA they were forced to implement that. A robot car has to follow the rules 100%. Most people will consider this long stop as an invitation to take the turn.

While I agree with you, I believe we will find that all the autonomous driving systems will drive very slowly and take longer to make decisions. This is exactly what Waymo and Cruise do in San Francisco. In fact in comparison drives FSD actually completes the drive significantly faster than those two systems.. Hopefully over time FSD will be more assertive but for now we probably should anticipate slowness.

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