"why didn't Toyota just build this on their own, they're a big company" Because the sports car market is not profitable, enthusiasts are the worst customers
Then don't try to overwrite the name of a legend with a bad, saddening memory. That's the worst of corporate stench. (Done a lot in the movie business.)
Doug's Car Reviews Suck! Nobody gives a crap about a "Doug Score" what qualifies a spoiled rich white nerd who has never turned wrench or turned a lap in real race. I hate Doug DeMuro with every fiber of my being! Without Supra I wouldn't be a Master Driver...
Doug is more like Top Gear...the reviews are not that good, but the entertainment value is. The serious car reviews are just not that entertaining to the majority of society.
I was showing my wife this video because I took some pics of the supra at barret jackson, and she said "are you watching the flying duck guy"? I had her leave the room.
Your filming is better than anyone else on youtube, it's incredible. The image quality, the contrast, the stability, the colors, the framing, the angles, it's all really good! And I love that you talk about cars with more track experience and mechanical knowledge than most youtubers. Could you film more old cars though, like old shcool miatas and BMWs? I would love to hear how these cars compare to modern day models. But really, thanks for the content you already produce, it's so special!
While I don't always agree with Mark (especially about S2000's, that car is a total piece of shit, and the GT86 is phenominal), I at least appreciate that he knows more about performance driving than flooring it for a few seconds in 4th gear. So many car youtubers are glorified hype beasts that know nothing about driving.
@@mickwrinkles2318 Every Doug "drive" review: Finds straight section of road, some gear probably higher than it should be for the speed he's going, floors it, "surprised pikachu" face if it's decently fast, makes entire assessment on that one 5 second sprint.
I’d say Doug first and foremost is good at finding quirks and features of the car that other reviewers usually don’t talk about. Then most people would want to see Doug’s opinion on the driving, so Doug does it too. Nice to see his opinion but I’d take the opinions of other RUclipsrs like Engineering Explained or savagegeese more seriously.
@@godofdestructiondiecast6756 Yeah, fuck this BMW inginuity, they make some of the worst sports cars ever made and have the worst racing pedigree of any car manufacturer. /s
When Savage uploads a new video I open a fresh bottle of the most expensive Crema Nera Extrema and get ready for 16 minutes of deep thrusting relaxation and firm stress release. My body is ready
Finally a review of the new Supra, I thought nobody cared about this car! Just kidding I’ve avoided all the other youtubers “reviews” and waited for savagegeese to do a real one. Thanks for putting in the effort to make a decent review sir.
Should check Matts from The Smoking Tire review..it says basically this but in his own lingo, and I really like that these 2 youtubers I respect the most have come to the same conclusion, it tells alot about the Supra
Car reviewers and journalists: I like this car. 17-year-old Tokyo Drift fanatics with vape pens and slammed Civics with 270,000 miles and Check Engine lights who also think the Acura and Honda Integra are two completely different cars: *It's just a BMW Z4. Fuck this car. I'm not buying it.*
I watched some other reviews, but I believe them to be clouded with bias either for or against the Supra. What I love about your channel is that you are able to see cars for what they are and tell us truthfully in a respectful manner. If I were to buy a new car within the next few years, it will be this Supra. I believe they will hold their value extremely well and I believe that they will be a great car to have. In an age where cars are getting less aggressively styled etc. I like that the Supra has aggressive styling and the ability to add aftermarket parts. Keep up the good work.
Awesome review. Best car reviewer. So much thought and detail goes into the reviews, from research, to content to video shoot, to background music, humor. Etc... Always well put together.
Ultra DMX Doug is good. Who is better will depend on what you are looking for. For me I value detail and production quality. Geese is objectively best in both categories. For detail, he usually goes into way more depth than any other car reviewer. He puts vehicles on lifts and breaks down all the mechanicals. He also brings inside information from talking to car company reps and designers. In terms of production quality, he’s way better than Doug. Geese uses close up stabilizer shots, to cinematic drone footage. He knows about composing a shot, and proper lighting. Anyways, objectively Geese goes into the most detail while having very high production quality.
BMW reliability is in question here, my 2008 IS350 has 270k kms on it and still running strong, while my buddy's 2010 m3 could't even get to 150k kms on the original power plant
ya but everyone knows BMW struggled with V-8s, and nearly every V8 M3 had known rod bearing issues...their i6 is indisputably one of the best most reliable engines ever made. However, comparing Toyota engine reliability to any german is not a fair comparison. German engineering focus' more on performance and Toyota doesn't hence the bmw engine in the supra and lack of FI on any lexus F type.
I thought the same too before doing some research. I found out that the new engine used in the Supra was thoroughly tested and revised by Toyota to meet their quality and reliability standards. See this video at 8:00 for more details. ruclips.net/video/_jbyzmtgU_0/видео.html
@Joseph C. Try not to be dishonest with what you're stating; the recalls were a) for literally just a few that had improper seatbelt welds and b) defective back-up cameras. I'll take a defective camera over major engine failures and other flaws BMW's are known for (that Toyota investigated themselves and has done what they can to mitigate these issues) over an actual BMW that had no input whatsoever from Toyota. I'd never in my entire life buy a BMW, but a 'BMW' that was top to bottom inspected as a joint venture with Toyota, being held to their standards, yeah, i'll go ahead and buy one.
I do agreeThat there’s a lot talking about the car and Not enough real impressions. Engineering Explained Is a good channel that talked about his impressions while on the Track. I was so excited when the new supra came out but it will be a while before I step my yes or no answer on is it a real super
@Jonathan Bowen Ken Philpot omega lul, Jesus is just as real as me and you, Christianity is nothing to play with. I'm not here to tell you what to believe in, but I can assure you he is more real than you think.
Yea, its not perfect but its good enough, aftermarket will take care of that lol. If you want a concept car you gotta pay for it, and they showed its possible with the LC500, it just costs alot to do it.
It's a tough one. On the one hand the FT-1 produced a lot of hype but it was never going to be reality. If people had only seen the new Supra as it is now perhaps there'd be less complaints.
Yeah I didn't even see what he means when he compared the looks of the FT-1 and Supra. They don't look radically different, and I don't think anyone expects Supra to look like a Supercar
You know a RUclipsr is truely awesome when the viewers are awesome too. There's no shitty "Zupra" jokes here. The people that dislike the new Supra actually convey their opinions like grown ups and the people defending the Supra are also well articulated
I worked for a truck OEM out of college and have worked on cars as well. Your explanations of systems, drivability and their effects are both understandable and intelligent. Your video production is compelling and fun to view. Great work!
@gilbert martinez - lol It's not that bad. It's kinda growing on me too but it doesn't matter I'll never own one, I'm more of a Honda guy. I know Honda will never be too scared to build their own car.
This guy is one of the few car journalists who doesn't talk shit. Really enjoy the reviews. BMW also benefited from this joint project. Z4 was a dying vehicle, so it was wise for two of the largest car manufactures to come together and do this project. Toyota rejected the engine and other components several times since they didn't meet Toyota's quality control standards. This car is growing on me for sure.
I guess the best advise is, like with any product, don't be an early adopter, you usually pay the price for it. The second revision of anything is always better. Unless you are loaded with money
Wow, this is something I need to drive. The fact that you said it feels Japanese when you drive it and throttle oversteers easily... sold. I miss the way my 86 handled, it was great. Flingable and controllable, one of the best feelings behind the wheel.
I really like the car. But to me it's a re-imagining of a Supra as a sports car. The original was much more of a GT car, and I don't think Toyota wanted to build a non-Lexus GT as the cost would have been astronomical 'for a Toyota' (probably north of $90k, the MKIV was relatively more expensive than this). Is it a perfect rose-tinted evolution of a 90's icon? No. Is it a tunable sports coupe? Yes and I think that's something to celebrate.
DEVLAD A good point. I think Toyota had to ultimately stick to the reputation that the Mk4 set later on in its life, since few think of the Mk4 as it was originally intended anyway.
@@dawnpoint That's it. The MK4 didn't sell well at all compared to the MK3, until it hit the used market after the 'cultural appreciation'. I used to own an MK4 and it was a great car, but it was no sports car. They were soft and comfortable compared even to other cars of the era (R32/R33 GTR for example). Even the default 2JZ tune for the MK4 was smooth, comfortable power. Another thing to consider is because of it's later reputation as a 'sports car' (and the fact that cars like the Cayman didn't exist during the MK4's inception) Toyota had to change the focus from a GT to compete.
Every time you open a hatch and have to remove the cargo cover in your own “special” violent way it absolutely cracks me the hell up🤣🤣 .....I wait on the edge of my seat for it to happen in every vehicle that might even possibly have one.......great vid as usual Love your work !!!!!!!!!
The Vibe The Z4 will actually hold its value. This Supra is a bastard child that shouldn’t have existed. Toyota would have been much better off using their V6 and making the Supra extremely lightweight.
@@markm0000 It's impossible considering that a V6 will make it heavier and won't feel up to the standards of an Inline 6 (hence its heritage). And hence that Toyota revised every part of the engine, stress tested it to meet their reliability stabdards, coded it, programmed it, and fully custommed it. = Toyota heart, feel, and soul. Collaboration is sometimes best for both parties involved. The new Supra would've never happened otherwise.
I'mJustFarhan I don’t trust Toyota did a thing to that engine until someone cracks open the Supr4 and the z4 side by side. Toyota cared so much about the interior they slapped a badge on the steering wheel and called it a day. This car is not what people want to believe it is. It’s literally a z4 with different lights.
@@markm0000 Albeit that Toyota designed, built, and layed out the whole interior. The parts come from both BMW and Toyota (such as the screen, subwoofers, steering wheel, materials, vents, gauges, just to name a few are all Toyota parts inside) And other than Toyota and BMW co-developing the platform and engine then spent years alone creating their own cars, there was no inspiration taken
Great video Mr. Geese. I'd like to point out one thing - I appreciate your use of slow shutter speeds in the outdoor daytime shots. So many productions, even huge professional ones, overlook this little detail. They use super fast shutter speeds which makes the footage look choppy, amateur, and unpleasant, cause they didn't want to just slap a simple ND filter on there. It makes the footage look so much more pleasant and cinematic.
After seeing all the reviews of the Supra. And seeing journalists rush to get their video published 1st... I like the fact that SavageGeese waited and dropped his review when he was ready. That’s why I value his opinion more than the other journalists except for maybe Chris Harris and Top Gear... 😉 That’s how you know his material is all about quality. Not just the first to get their cookie cutter review uploaded. Don’t hate the player hate the game
It may get the newer 2.4L boxer, but I sort of doubt it's going to get a turbo. Just like the new MX-5 got a 26 hp bump, I doubt the 86 will have a substantially higher power than it's current 205.
@@MasterMalrubius That's not even the worst part. The guy has a score for acceleration and handling. In acceleration he only takes 0-60 times which are pointless irl and on what premises he scores handling? He only takes cars to public roads, never done anything to test the cars limits and is a bad driver. Literally the opposite of Chris Harris and how people find that viewable is beyond me. Then again, Americans...
i cant wait for this in-depth final review, i was taking everything everyone else said with a grain of salt, but after watching your review it brings it this car to a whole another level. Thank you
Toyota could have made it on their own, however, it would have been a massive financial risk; a new platform could also have spawned a Toyota made next gen 86, as well Lexus models, and could have used the I-6 and I-6 turbo in other models (Tacoma, SUV's etc.) but Toyota being Toyota, they took the more financially safe approach by partnering with BMW. I know the styling is polarizing, but I'm in the camp of "like it". The car looks great in yellow and red, I don't know why anyone would want a sedate color on this type of car. The Supra looks way better than the Honda Civic type fast and furious. I still think a car like this needs a manual transmission option, maybe it will come later. It's going to have to go toe-to-toe with modern Mustangs & Camaros which are amazing cars for the money, and with the PP2/ILE models amazing handlers, as well as lower end Porsches, of course the Z4, and to a significantly lesser extent, the 370z. Maybe this will prompt Renault/Nissan to revive the Z, give it a fresh chassis and the VR30DDTT from the Infinity line. I'm interested to see parts pricing though, being it's a BMW under the skin, with Toyota offer replacement parts with a lower profit margin built in, or are they going to cost BMW money?
"A massive financial risk"? Congrats for the understatement of the week. For Toyota to have undertaken the new Supra on its own it would have more like a fiduciary crime. The word is that mid-level bean counters tried to stop the shared project with BMW based on analysis that the Supra will never make its investment back. Had Mr. Toyoda not stepped in to green light the Supra it would never have been built, at all. The Supra is pure and simple a gift to those who love sports cars. It deserves to be appreciated on that basis alone.
@Nathan unknown "...Cost to the company means fuck all, considering how much the market share Toy has in the global markets." This comment reminds me of an old I Love Lucy episode. Lucy and Ethel purchased a dress shop. They found they couldn't move their inventory. So Lucy suggested they drop the price of their dresses. But Ethel objected that they would lose money on every dress they sold if they did so. Lucy's response was that they would make up the deficit in volume. I assume you're not a financial analyst for a major automotive manufacturer.
@Nathan unknown Well, you'll have to wait at least a couple of years to find out whether Toyota fans sour on the Supra because every single unit planned for the current and next model year have already been pre-ordered. And if you think that there are serious competitors at the $50K MSRP, you should definitely name one so those already on waiting lists for the Supra can go out and buy one. As for claiming that "Toyota could stand to loose (sic) on the full in-house production and be alright," I'm afraid you really don't understand how capitalism works.
@Nathan unknown uh huh says someone who has posted no facts, whatsoever. Simply claims unsupported by evidence and financial advice to Toyota to lose money to fulfill his fantasies. Not surprising that you've now resorted to insults in the absence of substance. I see you've run out of anything but insults. Not surprising.
@Nathan unknown So your comeback consists of an article reporting that Toyota makes a profit, a list of vehicles under $50K virtually none of which is a true two seat sports car except for vehicles like the MX-5, the Fiata, and the BRZ/86, none of which is a Supra competitor and a number of vehicles that are no longer even for sale, a list of automobiles priced thousands of dollars more than the Supra, several of which have MSRP's twice that of the Supra, and a list of used cars. Lame doesn't come close describing your response.
Not having ever sat in or driven a Supra of any kind, I can honestly say I'm excited by this car. Probably wouldn't ever be able to afford it, but it's at least good to see auto manufacturers trying to make something fun.
Toyota's own 8-speed is garbage, just read owner reviews of the new Camry and RAV4, lots of transmission issues. They made the right decision to go with the ZF.
I don't agree with the statement that an affordable automatic transmission is in range for the price, how much more in production costs is that tranny than a manual? How do u correct over steer in auto when you lose traction, no clutch goose, talk to me goose! Poor choice ! I'll never even sniff at one and I've had a supra, a proper one, MANUAL!
I have to say a solid car. Glad to see Toyota bringing something out in this day and age of SUVs and Trucks. I agree with the 8 speed (have it in my scatpack). Keep up the great work. FYI....got a manual hellcat and manual Chevy SS if you ever want to do review on them. Thanks!
@@johnrickard8512 The SUV has turned into an oversized hatchback and pick up trucks well, yeah there isn't really an excuse for that one unless it's your only car.
My goodness I could only imagine what this will be like when they release a manual w/targa top version in 2021. Put a tune on it and this will be auto heaven.
A true car review unlike other youtubers and journalists who seems to just agree with everything Toyota tells them because they were spoiled and pampered.
Savagegeese, this was thee best Supra review to date !! You articulated the co-development with BMW and the driving dynamics against the Z4, M cars and the 86 so well. Excellent work man 👌🏽
The best thing about Savage Goose reviews is he doesn't put down every Toyota as being inferior to Hondas just because his boyfriend works for Honda. If you catch my drift
EVERY time I watch one of your videos I am always as impressed with the production quality as I was the first time I saw one. You are a master of your craft PLEASE keep it up. You are so far ahead of every other car channel in terms of detail and cinematography.
I just leased a BMW m140i Finale edition for 3 years and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I'll be interested to see how the Z4 and the Supra evolve, definitely will be walking into one of two after my lease is up. I'm not sure I agree about the M cars feeling retrofitted, it feels like a whole bunch of regulations and corporate engineering is holding them back. (m140i will be bought and sold to my father after the lease)
I've watched every single press review on the A90....and honestly, this is by far the best. Very partial and mature about the realities of a car like this, and avoids the easy trigger words that hype up teenagers in the comment section. These are the best types of reviews for individuals who are genuinely considering purchasing this car. Subscribed.
I will never be able to buy this car (mom with kiddos here), but I love Savagegeese videos! I trust the car reviews from this channel, and the quality in the videos is outstanding.
I've seen majority of the 2020 Supra reviews and I really appreciate the comparison against the "M" or "Z" cars. That really gives a benchmark of how this car functions as a whole. Thanks SavageG
Right off the bat, the panel gaps and panel alignment are atrocious. I'm hoping this is just pre-production issues. @1:27 the hood to front bumper @1:50 trunk line from windshield to quarter
After watching savagegeese videos I seriously don't take other reviewers videos serious like I do his, because he knows his facts and he does so much research. I have a lot of respect for him, plus he seems like a pretty cool guy.
Love the quality of this video Really talks about the good things and bad things of the new Supra and I like that this is an honest review not a biased video The new Supra is a great sports car
im still blown away but how much hate this care is receiving. Like the attitude is that because it doesnt have a "new 2jz" in it they should not have made it at all. and frankly that attitude is just killing the sports car market. this thing looks like a really solid car with alot of potential for a reasonable amount of money. period. whats wrong with that? atleast they didnt destroy the name and slap it on a damn crossover.
fake vents were indeed fake unless the "vents" are actually covering holes in that hood. from what i saw from other articles those hood vents are covering nothing, you still need to cut the hood to give it real vents.
Yeah when I was getting my car a check up at the Toyota dealer. Saw a nice mid dark green one in the dealer ship. It looked sooo nice. The inside was comfy aswell. I'm 5'9 and fit just perfectly. View wasn't to low
For the last couple of weeks, I have watched the reviews of the new Toyota Supra in youtube. Two things confused me because I did not find any pattern among the reviews: 1) Steering ratio 2) Transmission. Some said the steering is slow; you have to work more. Some said it's fine. Some said the transmission is great. Some said it's a disappointment. However, I trust you, Mr. Geese. Waiting for the detailed review.
The new Corvette is faster, will be more reliable, and priced around $60k. Most of all, it's more honest since it wasn't designed by BMW. I'm a Toyota fan. But, the "Supra" is disappointing.
OH NO!!! It's car co developed by one of the best sports car manufacturers in the world and the most reliable car manufacturer in the world! This will be HORRIFIC!
It is going to hold up even with small to medium mods if you don't look to maximize horsepower with it. But if the owner is looking at 500HP or more then it is going to break. Another youtuber that owns an MK4 Supra covered the engine details Between the 2JZ-GTR & B58 and what both are capable of.
netmatrix75 its gunna hold up??? seriously what mechanical and or engineering perspective are you stating that ridiculous fact from? The problem with it being a colab is the same as every other one, when real problems happen, bmw wont admit it and toyota wont either, you get caught in between both manufacturers who dont know how to fix problems. I should knoe ive been there before.
@@netmatrix75 BMW products don't hold up well, give it a little aggressive driving and a few years you'll soon see oil and fluid leakage all over the engine bay.
TOYOTA didn't make shit, don't you get it? All they did was put their logo on a Subaru and a BMW and said that are making sports cars again. The last time they actually made a sports car was the last Celica and MR2 of the mid 2000s. If you count Lexus, they technically started again with the LFA and are currently on the RCF and LCF but the actual Toyota brand has never made a sports car since 2007.
Toyota? This is a mediocre fan service subbed through BMW. It’s Toyota throwing a small bone to its Supra fanboys. This could have been great but Toyota didn’t want to spend the dough. One more example of Toyota diluting their brand.
Thanks for cooling your head and collecting your thoughts before talking about this in a review. That is what journalism should be like. Great visuals and sound go nicely with the train of thought you follow here. Is this one of the cars you could see yourself buying and owning to support the idea behind it, like your old FRS? Would love to see you and Turbowski tune this. Or are you "getting to old" for messing around with these things?
I dont have the time right now to early adopt this car. And as good as it is I'd want a manual car regardless of loss of performance. But hopefully people get out there and test the limits. I have some track videos etc. Planned with it however.
With all those fake vents and other aftermarket prepared slots, maybe Toyota can pump out limited editions where TRD themselves will fill in those slots. Sure, make it more expensive, but it will definitely be cool to see. Toyota Supra Track Edition, like the RC F.
Outstanding job! You hit the apex at angles no one does. I'm not talking about the drive, I'm talking about the content of your review. I'll never be able to drive this car, but in my own way, I felt like I did, thanks to you!
Savage, I’m trying so hard to find a camera rig that can hold up to being jostled around in my AP1 s2000 but everything seems to fall off after a while. I know you’re rig is pretty fancy, but would you have any suggestions for me without having to spend a fortune?
Yeah I've used suction cup mounts in the past and I'd like to keep using them if possible. I don't have a roll bar or harness bar to attach cameras to.@@taiwilson8966
I wish it didn’t look like a blobfish from the front. Also @1:50 - panel gap problems you can see from a city block away. You’ve criticized cars that weren’t even this bad. What gives?
Thank you for explaining to the people why Toyota worked with BMW, and now it's affordable for everyone. People are so quick to judge and hating on the new Supra And for those saying it's basically driving a BMW, well maybe shouldn't judge if they havnt driven one.
"why didn't Toyota just build this on their own, they're a big company"
Because the sports car market is not profitable, enthusiasts are the worst customers
Pretty much
@@savagegeese Couldn't have said it better myself.
Then don't try to overwrite the name of a legend with a bad, saddening memory. That's the worst of corporate stench. (Done a lot in the movie business.)
Dowlphwin Oh the movie business is the worst at this. They have remade some movies well but not enough of them. :(
Because Toyota doesn't have straight six engines.
Doug DeMuro gets 100 times the views Savagegeese does, but Savagegeese's reviews are about 100 times better! Life just isn't fair.
Yes, but Doug is the type of guy that attracts all the woman viewers. 😂👩🤣
Yeah its BS. 75K VS 3.2 million views. WTF RUclips.
Doug's Car Reviews Suck! Nobody gives a crap about a "Doug Score" what qualifies a spoiled rich white nerd who has never turned wrench or turned a lap in real race. I hate Doug DeMuro with every fiber of my being! Without Supra I wouldn't be a Master Driver...
Douglas Buck There are dozens of us. DOZENS!!!!
Doug is more like Top Gear...the reviews are not that good, but the entertainment value is. The serious car reviews are just not that entertaining to the majority of society.
I was showing my wife this video because I took some pics of the supra at barret jackson, and she said "are you watching the flying duck guy"? I had her leave the room.
I would have been laughing with her. LOL
Your moms HITACHI bruh 😆
Came back to this, still funny.
Your filming is better than anyone else on youtube, it's incredible. The image quality, the contrast, the stability, the colors, the framing, the angles, it's all really good! And I love that you talk about cars with more track experience and mechanical knowledge than most youtubers. Could you film more old cars though, like old shcool miatas and BMWs? I would love to hear how these cars compare to modern day models. But really, thanks for the content you already produce, it's so special!
After watching some of the livestream and knowing savagegeese did his research I value his opinion more than others on the supra.
While I don't always agree with Mark (especially about S2000's, that car is a total piece of shit, and the GT86 is phenominal), I at least appreciate that he knows more about performance driving than flooring it for a few seconds in 4th gear. So many car youtubers are glorified hype beasts that know nothing about driving.
@@nunyabusiness896 ikr
@@nunyabusiness896 Yeah tell me 'bout Doug, lol
@@mickwrinkles2318
Every Doug "drive" review: Finds straight section of road, some gear probably higher than it should be for the speed he's going, floors it, "surprised pikachu" face if it's decently fast, makes entire assessment on that one 5 second sprint.
I’d say Doug first and foremost is good at finding quirks and features of the car that other reviewers usually don’t talk about. Then most people would want to see Doug’s opinion on the driving, so Doug does it too. Nice to see his opinion but I’d take the opinions of other RUclipsrs like Engineering Explained or savagegeese more seriously.
"Feels like the M Car that every single person has wanted since the early 2000s" That's a ringing endorsement from Geese
Yep it's a real nice BMW
Basically it's a great car and Toyota heart it self by calling it a supra
@@godofdestructiondiecast6756 Yeah, fuck this BMW inginuity, they make some of the worst sports cars ever made and have the worst racing pedigree of any car manufacturer.
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@@TimothyJavier wdym?
@@j.p494 /s
When Savage uploads a new video I open a fresh bottle of the most expensive Crema Nera Extrema and get ready for 16 minutes of deep thrusting relaxation and firm stress release. My body is ready
Ok, bend over and relax
I’m sure your Dad loves it.
Mark M this reminds me of Garandthumbs comment section.
Bravo
Hilarious!
This is the first car, that actually looks like a "Savage Goose".
BMW Supra goose edition
Da da da DAAhhhhhh Suupra Gooooooose
Da da da DAAhhhhhh Suupra Gooooooose
its a pretty ugly looking car.
@@asrr62 its sexy. Front remind me of front of a fighter jet
13:01 Ready to fill up with some "washer fluid"
Genius edit 10/10
Nope. Just some organic, urea-based, homebrewed AdYellow...em... AdBlue 🤫🤭
FILL'ER UP
That is why he took the yellow car, hides the stains!
Lol wtf!
13:00 filling up the gas tank with the zipper down while talking about the Dynamics of vehicle development. Priceless
Finally a review of the new Supra, I thought nobody cared about this car! Just kidding I’ve avoided all the other youtubers “reviews” and waited for savagegeese to do a real one. Thanks for putting in the effort to make a decent review sir.
Take the boy, take the boy!!!!
Should check Matts from The Smoking Tire review..it says basically this but in his own lingo, and I really like that these 2 youtubers I respect the most have come to the same conclusion, it tells alot about the Supra
Yup, me too. Didnt want to watch anything else first.
HELLISH Matt’s review sucked. He had virtually zero bad things about this car. Imo, that is totally biased and seemed like he was paid by Toyota.
Scotty kilmer made the best video about the Supra so far.
Car reviewers and journalists: I like this car.
17-year-old Tokyo Drift fanatics with vape pens and slammed Civics with 270,000 miles and Check Engine lights who also think the Acura and Honda Integra are two completely different cars: *It's just a BMW Z4. Fuck this car. I'm not buying it.*
I watched some other reviews, but I believe them to be clouded with bias either for or against the Supra. What I love about your channel is that you are able to see cars for what they are and tell us truthfully in a respectful manner. If I were to buy a new car within the next few years, it will be this Supra. I believe they will hold their value extremely well and I believe that they will be a great car to have. In an age where cars are getting less aggressively styled etc. I like that the Supra has aggressive styling and the ability to add aftermarket parts. Keep up the good work.
Watched 8 turo ads, that’s how much I liked this video
Awesome review. Best car reviewer. So much thought and detail goes into the reviews, from research, to content to video shoot, to background music, humor. Etc... Always well put together.
Doug demuro all the way.
Ultra DMX Doug is good. Who is better will depend on what you are looking for. For me I value detail and production quality. Geese is objectively best in both categories. For detail, he usually goes into way more depth than any other car reviewer. He puts vehicles on lifts and breaks down all the mechanicals. He also brings inside information from talking to car company reps and designers. In terms of production quality, he’s way better than Doug. Geese uses close up stabilizer shots, to cinematic drone footage. He knows about composing a shot, and proper lighting. Anyways, objectively Geese goes into the most detail while having very high production quality.
Am just 9yrs old who wanna see cars interiors xD
Ultra DMX 9yo.. ok makes sense.
BMW reliability is in question here, my 2008 IS350 has 270k kms on it and still running strong, while my buddy's 2010 m3 could't even get to 150k kms on the original power plant
Research BMW reliability issues and the river overfloweth. World wide flood type overfloweth.
ya but everyone knows BMW struggled with V-8s, and nearly every V8 M3 had known rod bearing issues...their i6 is indisputably one of the best most reliable engines ever made. However, comparing Toyota engine reliability to any german is not a fair comparison. German engineering focus' more on performance and Toyota doesn't hence the bmw engine in the supra and lack of FI on any lexus F type.
I thought the same too before doing some research. I found out that the new engine used in the Supra was thoroughly tested and revised by Toyota to meet their quality and reliability standards. See this video at 8:00 for more details. ruclips.net/video/_jbyzmtgU_0/видео.html
Damian Roudebush the M60B40 is a fantastic engine
@Joseph C. Try not to be dishonest with what you're stating; the recalls were a) for literally just a few that had improper seatbelt welds and b) defective back-up cameras.
I'll take a defective camera over major engine failures and other flaws BMW's are known for (that Toyota investigated themselves and has done what they can to mitigate these issues) over an actual BMW that had no input whatsoever from Toyota. I'd never in my entire life buy a BMW, but a 'BMW' that was top to bottom inspected as a joint venture with Toyota, being held to their standards, yeah, i'll go ahead and buy one.
I read that as "transmission problems" at first then just thought.. jesus now I have to hear even more about this friggin car
Please do not use the name of my savior and lord to show that you’re mad
I do agreeThat there’s a lot talking about the car and Not enough real impressions. Engineering Explained Is a good channel that talked about his impressions while on the Track. I was so excited when the new supra came out but it will be a while before I step my yes or no answer on is it a real super
Evan Moon Jesus isn’t real . All religions are made up and all basically the same story .
@Jonathan Bowen Ken Philpot
omega lul, Jesus is just as real as me and you, Christianity is nothing to play with. I'm not here to tell you what to believe in, but I can assure you he is more real than you think.
ZF transmissions are solid
But geese-San
Will this make me *master driver?*
You mean *_mastur drivwehr_* .
@@cybertron1000s Mastah Daribah-san
Really like the way how the new Supra takes the cues from the FT-1 concept
Atleast it’s not a dulled down production car
Yea, its not perfect but its good enough, aftermarket will take care of that lol. If you want a concept car you gotta pay for it, and they showed its possible with the LC500, it just costs alot to do it.
It's a tough one. On the one hand the FT-1 produced a lot of hype but it was never going to be reality. If people had only seen the new Supra as it is now perhaps there'd be less complaints.
Charlie Vetsworth I did watch the whole video and atleast this production model looks decent
I would argue that it looks better than the Z4
Yeah I didn't even see what he means when he compared the looks of the FT-1 and Supra. They don't look radically different, and I don't think anyone expects Supra to look like a Supercar
@Charlie Vetsworth would u rather have a Toyota interior over a BMW interior?
You know a RUclipsr is truely awesome when the viewers are awesome too. There's no shitty "Zupra" jokes here. The people that dislike the new Supra actually convey their opinions like grown ups and the people defending the Supra are also well articulated
hey, I don't recall anyone in the comments saying BMW couldn't make a good car :)
Proper journalistic review! Drain the manufacturer's koolaid and then tell it as it should be...no sugar coating, no bias!
I worked for a truck OEM out of college and have worked on cars as well. Your explanations of systems, drivability and their effects are both understandable and intelligent. Your video production is compelling and fun to view. Great work!
13:00 LOL. Window washer fluid getting low there? The car is growing on me.
@gilbert martinez - lol It's not that bad. It's kinda growing on me too but it doesn't matter I'll never own one, I'm more of a Honda guy. I know Honda will never be too scared to build their own car.
@@mikea5205 *staring at the NSX*
Neo Smith wait til it develops bmwaritis
like all bmw cause the tank is in the right fender
@@blacksnow7106 Or S2000. Not a six, I know.
This guy is one of the few car journalists who doesn't talk shit. Really enjoy the reviews. BMW also benefited from this joint project. Z4 was a dying vehicle, so it was wise for two of the largest car manufactures to come together and do this project. Toyota rejected the engine and other components several times since they didn't meet Toyota's quality control standards. This car is growing on me for sure.
I guess the best advise is, like with any product, don't be an early adopter, you usually pay the price for it. The second revision of anything is always better. Unless you are loaded with money
TechYK especially when this Supra is based on a BMW, its bound to have issues that will need to be recalled.
Wow, this is something I need to drive. The fact that you said it feels Japanese when you drive it and throttle oversteers easily... sold. I miss the way my 86 handled, it was great. Flingable and controllable, one of the best feelings behind the wheel.
I really like the car. But to me it's a re-imagining of a Supra as a sports car. The original was much more of a GT car, and I don't think Toyota wanted to build a non-Lexus GT as the cost would have been astronomical 'for a Toyota' (probably north of $90k, the MKIV was relatively more expensive than this).
Is it a perfect rose-tinted evolution of a 90's icon? No. Is it a tunable sports coupe? Yes and I think that's something to celebrate.
DEVLAD A good point. I think Toyota had to ultimately stick to the reputation that the Mk4 set later on in its life, since few think of the Mk4 as it was originally intended anyway.
The Mk4 was not a $90k car. It was $45k.
Simba TheGreat I think he means it would be close to that if inflated for the prices today
@@SimbaTheGreat Sorry, I should have worded that a little better. I mean if inflated for prices these days
@@dawnpoint That's it. The MK4 didn't sell well at all compared to the MK3, until it hit the used market after the 'cultural appreciation'.
I used to own an MK4 and it was a great car, but it was no sports car. They were soft and comfortable compared even to other cars of the era (R32/R33 GTR for example). Even the default 2JZ tune for the MK4 was smooth, comfortable power.
Another thing to consider is because of it's later reputation as a 'sports car' (and the fact that cars like the Cayman didn't exist during the MK4's inception) Toyota had to change the focus from a GT to compete.
I love how the internet is complaining about BMW DNA in a Toyota....
And nobody complains about BMW dna in a McLaren
That outro gets me everytime haha. The Supra looks like it delivers... can't wait to see one in the wild.
The second Supra that will never look outdated.
That ending...."I think 60 psi should do it" gets me every time.
Savage geese??? What a waste of skin 😂
Every time you open a hatch and have to remove the cargo cover in your own “special” violent way it absolutely cracks me the hell up🤣🤣
.....I wait on the edge of my seat for it to happen in every vehicle that might even
possibly have one.......great vid as usual
Love your work !!!!!!!!!
I love your reviews. You really do a great job of talking about the car without hyperbole and sensationalism. Thanks for making such great content.
Can’t forgive the fake vents, sorry. And it should have had the 2x four round lights at the back like the MKIV, plus a wing.
Definitely could have taken more design cues from the Mk. IV to give a nod to the 'heritage'
@@mc82 It did however took more inspiration from the 2000GT believe it or not.
and a nicer front end. that edsel looking centre almost kardassian messed up nose job looks yuk
You’re the only journalist I can trust. Period. Everybody else is wishy washy with their opinions. You give straight FACTS YO !
Maty farah?
bmx687 you mean Fat Marah ?
You convinced me. I'll buy a z4!
The Vibe The Z4 will actually hold its value. This Supra is a bastard child that shouldn’t have existed. Toyota would have been much better off using their V6 and making the Supra extremely lightweight.
@@markm0000 It's impossible considering that a V6 will make it heavier and won't feel up to the standards of an Inline 6 (hence its heritage).
And hence that Toyota revised every part of the engine, stress tested it to meet their reliability stabdards, coded it, programmed it, and fully custommed it. = Toyota heart, feel, and soul.
Collaboration is sometimes best for both parties involved. The new Supra would've never happened otherwise.
I'mJustFarhan I don’t trust Toyota did a thing to that engine until someone cracks open the Supr4 and the z4 side by side. Toyota cared so much about the interior they slapped a badge on the steering wheel and called it a day. This car is not what people want to believe it is. It’s literally a z4 with different lights.
@@markm0000 Albeit that Toyota designed, built, and layed out the whole interior. The parts come from both BMW and Toyota (such as the screen, subwoofers, steering wheel, materials, vents, gauges, just to name a few are all Toyota parts inside)
And other than Toyota and BMW co-developing the platform and engine then spent years alone creating their own cars, there was no inspiration taken
@@markm0000
Toyota already has the RC-F and its high-reving V8 is much better than the 2JZ.
Great video Mr. Geese. I'd like to point out one thing - I appreciate your use of slow shutter speeds in the outdoor daytime shots. So many productions, even huge professional ones, overlook this little detail. They use super fast shutter speeds which makes the footage look choppy, amateur, and unpleasant, cause they didn't want to just slap a simple ND filter on there. It makes the footage look so much more pleasant and cinematic.
I was kind of pissed because I needed even darker ND for this and didnt have it and had to alter shooting here a bit. Glad it still came out.
@@savagegeese Haha yeah I would've never noticed. Cheers buddy
I hit the like button without even watching it. That’s the respect savage gets.
After seeing all the reviews of the Supra. And seeing journalists rush to get their video published 1st...
I like the fact that SavageGeese waited and dropped his review when he was ready. That’s why I value his opinion more than the other journalists except for maybe Chris Harris and Top Gear... 😉
That’s how you know his material is all about quality. Not just the first to get their cookie cutter review uploaded.
Don’t hate the player hate the game
It's the best BMW, that isn't a BMW.
I still can't fall in love with this after watching review on this new car.... I would wait for next gen GT86/BRZ if it has engine upgrade.
If the next gen 86 actually gets a turbocharchged motor I can see it outselling the Supra.
Yeah put the 1grfe 4.0l V6 dvvti Fj cruiser Australian motor with a supercharger into the 86, (even without forced induction) itd be a monster.
The brz/86 would be a much better primary car anyways I’d never want to daily drive the supra
It may get the newer 2.4L boxer, but I sort of doubt it's going to get a turbo. Just like the new MX-5 got a 26 hp bump, I doubt the 86 will have a substantially higher power than it's current 205.
Not even saw the video, I automatically press like. We love you savagegeese. The only review worth watching, you put Doug de Muro into shame
I have no idea how is Doug so popular... it seems that his content appeals to autistic people that need everything to be explained SLOWLY.
What about the quirks and features?
@@MasterMalrubius That's not even the worst part. The guy has a score for acceleration and handling. In acceleration he only takes 0-60 times which are pointless irl and on what premises he scores handling? He only takes cars to public roads, never done anything to test the cars limits and is a bad driver. Literally the opposite of Chris Harris and how people find that viewable is beyond me. Then again, Americans...
i cant wait for this in-depth final review, i was taking everything everyone else said with a grain of salt, but after watching your review it brings it this car to a whole another level. Thank you
Toyota could have made it on their own, however, it would have been a massive financial risk; a new platform could also have spawned a Toyota made next gen 86, as well Lexus models, and could have used the I-6 and I-6 turbo in other models (Tacoma, SUV's etc.) but Toyota being Toyota, they took the more financially safe approach by partnering with BMW.
I know the styling is polarizing, but I'm in the camp of "like it". The car looks great in yellow and red, I don't know why anyone would want a sedate color on this type of car. The Supra looks way better than the Honda Civic type fast and furious.
I still think a car like this needs a manual transmission option, maybe it will come later. It's going to have to go toe-to-toe with modern Mustangs & Camaros which are amazing cars for the money, and with the PP2/ILE models amazing handlers, as well as lower end Porsches, of course the Z4, and to a significantly lesser extent, the 370z. Maybe this will prompt Renault/Nissan to revive the Z, give it a fresh chassis and the VR30DDTT from the Infinity line.
I'm interested to see parts pricing though, being it's a BMW under the skin, with Toyota offer replacement parts with a lower profit margin built in, or are they going to cost BMW money?
"A massive financial risk"? Congrats for the understatement of the week. For Toyota to have undertaken the new Supra on its own it would have more like a fiduciary crime. The word is that mid-level bean counters tried to stop the shared project with BMW based on analysis that the Supra will never make its investment back. Had Mr. Toyoda not stepped in to green light the Supra it would never have been built, at all. The Supra is pure and simple a gift to those who love sports cars. It deserves to be appreciated on that basis alone.
@Nathan unknown "...Cost to the company means fuck all, considering how much the market share Toy has in the global markets." This comment reminds me of an old I Love Lucy episode. Lucy and Ethel purchased a dress shop. They found they couldn't move their inventory. So Lucy suggested they drop the price of their dresses. But Ethel objected that they would lose money on every dress they sold if they did so. Lucy's response was that they would make up the deficit in volume. I assume you're not a financial analyst for a major automotive manufacturer.
@Nathan unknown Well, you'll have to wait at least a couple of years to find out whether Toyota fans sour on the Supra because every single unit planned for the current and next model year have already been pre-ordered. And if you think that there are serious competitors at the $50K MSRP, you should definitely name one so those already on waiting lists for the Supra can go out and buy one. As for claiming that "Toyota could stand to loose (sic) on the full in-house production and be alright," I'm afraid you really don't understand how capitalism works.
@Nathan unknown uh huh says someone who has posted no facts, whatsoever. Simply claims unsupported by evidence and financial advice to Toyota to lose money to fulfill his fantasies. Not surprising that you've now resorted to insults in the absence of substance.
I see you've run out of anything but insults. Not surprising.
@Nathan unknown So your comeback consists of an article reporting that Toyota makes a profit, a list of vehicles under $50K virtually none of which is a true two seat sports car except for vehicles like the MX-5, the Fiata, and the BRZ/86, none of which is a Supra competitor and a number of vehicles that are no longer even for sale, a list of automobiles priced thousands of dollars more than the Supra, several of which have MSRP's twice that of the Supra, and a list of used cars.
Lame doesn't come close describing your response.
Not having ever sat in or driven a Supra of any kind, I can honestly say I'm excited by this car. Probably wouldn't ever be able to afford it, but it's at least good to see auto manufacturers trying to make something fun.
I think the transmission is great. To be a traditional auto and shift THAT FAST. Toyotas own 8 speed is no where even close to that fast.
Toyota's own 8-speed is garbage, just read owner reviews of the new Camry and RAV4, lots of transmission issues. They made the right decision to go with the ZF.
@@mattspeer01 Exactly.
I don't agree with the statement that an affordable automatic transmission is in range for the price, how much more in production costs is that tranny than a manual? How do u correct over steer in auto when you lose traction, no clutch goose, talk to me goose! Poor choice ! I'll never even sniff at one and I've had a supra, a proper one, MANUAL!
Yup that's why I will always love my 86
I have to say a solid car. Glad to see Toyota bringing something out in this day and age of SUVs and Trucks. I agree with the 8 speed (have it in my scatpack). Keep up the great work. FYI....got a manual hellcat and manual Chevy SS if you ever want to do review on them. Thanks!
People who buy SUVs and Trucks and use them like cars smh...
Wow, a comment that isn't needlessly trashing on the car.
@@johnrickard8512 The SUV has turned into an oversized hatchback and pick up trucks well, yeah there isn't really an excuse for that one unless it's your only car.
You mean BMW is bringing something like this?
Wait, you have a Scatpack, Hellcat and a Chevy SS?!?!?!?
My goodness I could only imagine what this will be like when they release a manual w/targa top version in 2021. Put a tune on it and this will be auto heaven.
Manuals are dead.
This is the review we have been waiting for :-)
A true car review unlike other youtubers and journalists who seems to just agree with everything Toyota tells them because they were spoiled and pampered.
@@mrjjthor A true car review, for you special douche bags.
Awww man, I've been waiting for this. Good vid. Can't wait for the full review.😀
Of course you dropped your supra video last Mr Goose. Such a contrarian.
Aaaahmmm except for TheStraightPipes. Yet to drop.
@@DiscoFang Oh the irony of those guys calling themselves 'thestraightpipes'.
Savagegeese, this was thee best Supra review to date !! You articulated the co-development with BMW and the driving dynamics against the Z4, M cars and the 86 so well. Excellent work man 👌🏽
The best thing about Savage Goose reviews is he doesn't put down every Toyota as being inferior to Hondas just because his boyfriend works for Honda.
If you catch my drift
Your joke fell flat.
EVERY time I watch one of your videos I am always as impressed with the production quality as I was the first time I saw one. You are a master of your craft PLEASE keep it up. You are so far ahead of every other car channel in terms of detail and cinematography.
I just leased a BMW m140i Finale edition for 3 years and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I'll be interested to see how the Z4 and the Supra evolve, definitely will be walking into one of two after my lease is up.
I'm not sure I agree about the M cars feeling retrofitted, it feels like a whole bunch of regulations and corporate engineering is holding them back.
(m140i will be bought and sold to my father after the lease)
Who the fuck leases a 1 series ?
@@1338-c9s Light-skinned black ppl
I think the consumer is holding them back. Bmws customers wanted less steering feel and “more refinement”- thus the softer m cars
I've watched every single press review on the A90....and honestly, this is by far the best.
Very partial and mature about the realities of a car like this, and avoids the easy trigger words that hype up teenagers in the comment section.
These are the best types of reviews for individuals who are genuinely considering purchasing this car.
Subscribed.
I think the RC F Track edition is the new supra
ruclips.net/video/VSZFdBIsNgo/видео.html
had that video as well. Like the new electronic spoiler and carbon brake
But then you'd be calling it a rebadged RC F Track Edition that has nothing to do with its heritage.
The RC F is garbage,the GT-R smokes it in every way.
Not even close. That thing is a bloated pig of a car.
@@saladwithsalad The GT-R however isn't even in the same segment.
You're about the first to put emphasis on the right keyword: dedicated platform. Hopefully this thing sticks around and keeps evolving!
I will never be able to buy this car (mom with kiddos here), but I love Savagegeese videos! I trust the car reviews from this channel, and the quality in the videos is outstanding.
You'd be a badass mom though! 😁
MozzaBurger, aww thanks, you are so sweet :-)
What do u drive?
bmx687, hi there! I drive a ‘17 Bmw 750i. Lots of fun, can’t complain 😊. How about you?
Definitely one of the best, if not the best, launch reviews of the new Supra. Very informative without any fluff! Can't wait for your full review!
I thought I tasted something familiar when I ran the washers in that Supra after you were done with it...
I've seen majority of the 2020 Supra reviews and I really appreciate the comparison against the "M" or "Z" cars. That really gives a benchmark of how this car functions as a whole.
Thanks SavageG
It is a z4 not comparable to the z4
It's basically the most attainable and most highly refined track-ready M car at this price point.
I don't know, as much as I dislike BMW I think the M2 is more track-ready than the Supra
You can tell your one of the only RUclips guys who has more than a minute of actual on track time
Right off the bat, the panel gaps and panel alignment are atrocious. I'm hoping this is just pre-production issues.
@1:27 the hood to front bumper
@1:50 trunk line from windshield to quarter
All the cars at the press launch were pre-production
The Z4 at MAMA was incredible and if the Supra is anything like it, I think I'll fall in love with it
This was the only review I took seriously.
After watching savagegeese videos I seriously don't take other reviewers videos serious like I do his, because he knows his facts and he does so much research. I have a lot of respect for him, plus he seems like a pretty cool guy.
Love the quality of this video
Really talks about the good things and bad things of the new Supra and I like that this is an honest review not a biased video
The new Supra is a great sports car
im still blown away but how much hate this care is receiving. Like the attitude is that because it doesnt have a "new 2jz" in it they should not have made it at all. and frankly that attitude is just killing the sports car market. this thing looks like a really solid car with alot of potential for a reasonable amount of money. period. whats wrong with that? atleast they didnt destroy the name and slap it on a damn crossover.
11:27 Turbowski makes a rare appearance! I bet he was happy to be driving a rwd sports car on a race track as well as Mark.
fake vents were indeed fake unless the "vents" are actually covering holes in that hood. from what i saw from other articles those hood vents are covering nothing, you still need to cut the hood to give it real vents.
Saw a 2020 Supra in person for the first time this past weekend, and IMO, it's a gorgeous sports car from any angle!
Yeah when I was getting my car a check up at the Toyota dealer. Saw a nice mid dark green one in the dealer ship. It looked sooo nice. The inside was comfy aswell. I'm 5'9 and fit just perfectly. View wasn't to low
For the last couple of weeks, I have watched the reviews of the new Toyota Supra in youtube. Two things confused me because I did not find any pattern among the reviews: 1) Steering ratio 2) Transmission. Some said the steering is slow; you have to work more. Some said it's fine. Some said the transmission is great. Some said it's a disappointment. However, I trust you, Mr. Geese. Waiting for the detailed review.
Looking to buy something in this category with in the next year (Supra, TT RS, M2 and Cayman) looking forward for some of these reviews.
This or an M2 comp - tricky - this is the real comparison that is needed
Best reviewer by far. Love that you include visibility. Why is this thing not twin turbo manual?
Are you married?
dzh dzh even if she isn’t doubt she ever will be to you!
Every auto RUclipsr on earth comes out with a Supra video this week but few actually matter. None better than the Goose.
The new Corvette is faster, will be more reliable, and priced around $60k. Most of all, it's more honest since it wasn't designed by BMW. I'm a Toyota fan. But, the "Supra" is disappointing.
You're not just wrong, you're stupid.
@@hfhehdhwhhahshhauwunsnammw6790 haha made my day lol
OH NO!!! It's car co developed by one of the best sports car manufacturers in the world and the most reliable car manufacturer in the world! This will be HORRIFIC!
After the n54, how does this NOT have a oil cooler?! Smh
I really appreciate you not rushing your review out and taking the time to get your thoughts together and compare it to the other BMW's.
Would u compare it with BMW Z4?
The BMW Z4 M Coupe (2006 - 2008) really is the precursor to the 2020 Supra. Equally as hard core with the inline 6, normally aspirated, 333hp.
How about the bmw motor reliability ?!?!? THAT is the question of the day...
It is going to hold up even with small to medium mods if you don't look to maximize horsepower with it. But if the owner is looking at 500HP or more then it is going to break. Another youtuber that owns an MK4 Supra covered the engine details Between the 2JZ-GTR & B58 and what both are capable of.
netmatrix75 its gunna hold up??? seriously what mechanical and or engineering perspective are you stating that ridiculous fact from? The problem with it being a colab is the same as every other one, when real problems happen, bmw wont admit it and toyota wont either, you get caught in between both manufacturers who dont know how to fix problems. I should knoe ive been there before.
@@netmatrix75 BMW products don't hold up well, give it a little aggressive driving and a few years you'll soon see oil and fluid leakage all over the engine bay.
it looks great, which is rare for me to say about a modern car but I just can't get over the fact that it is a BMW.
I'm just glad Toyota is still making sports coupes. Everyone else has gone heavy SUV.
TOYOTA didn't make shit, don't you get it? All they did was put their logo on a Subaru and a BMW and said that are making sports cars again. The last time they actually made a sports car was the last Celica and MR2 of the mid 2000s. If you count Lexus, they technically started again with the LFA and are currently on the RCF and LCF but the actual Toyota brand has never made a sports car since 2007.
Toyota? This is a mediocre fan service subbed through BMW. It’s Toyota throwing a small bone to its Supra fanboys. This could have been great but Toyota didn’t want to spend the dough. One more example of Toyota diluting their brand.
This is the SUPRA review I was waiting for. Grabs popcorn.
To bad it's a BMW
I have to admit for 50k it's pretty nice. I really think you are getting 50k worth of car.
Tips 4 truckers not really, for half the cost you can have an e92 or build a small house on a plot of land.
Type R or megane tropy cup only cost 35k only than this supra its have a same time in Nürburgring
Nawww there’s so much better for that price tbh
Thanks for cooling your head and collecting your thoughts before talking about this in a review. That is what journalism should be like. Great visuals and sound go nicely with the train of thought you follow here. Is this one of the cars you could see yourself buying and owning to support the idea behind it, like your old FRS? Would love to see you and Turbowski tune this. Or are you "getting to old" for messing around with these things?
I dont have the time right now to early adopt this car. And as good as it is I'd want a manual car regardless of loss of performance. But hopefully people get out there and test the limits. I have some track videos etc. Planned with it however.
That rear end is really growing on me. Yeah it's not the concept but I think they did a good job style wise. I like it.
Yeah, every time I see it I like it more. I think it's an instant classic, especially with the upgradablity.
To be clear, Toyota flew him in to drive a Subaru and a BMW. Love your videos, man. Keep doing what you're doing.
That's a good one 🤣
listening to you is ... relaxing.
You are like the Bob Ross of the car review world :)
With all those fake vents and other aftermarket prepared slots, maybe Toyota can pump out limited editions where TRD themselves will fill in those slots. Sure, make it more expensive, but it will definitely be cool to see. Toyota Supra Track Edition, like the RC F.
Me: If I wanted a BMW, I would just go and buy a BMW.
Toyota: But this is not a BMW
Me: Are you sure?
Toyota: Kinda
Lol
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Outstanding job! You hit the apex at angles no one does. I'm not talking about the drive, I'm talking about the content of your review. I'll never be able to drive this car, but in my own way, I felt like I did, thanks to you!
Savage, I’m trying so hard to find a camera rig that can hold up to being jostled around in my AP1 s2000 but everything seems to fall off after a while. I know you’re rig is pretty fancy, but would you have any suggestions for me without having to spend a fortune?
have you tried mounting on a rear harness bar? sound like you use the suction cup method
Use a baby on a keychain
Yeah I've used suction cup mounts in the past and I'd like to keep using them if possible. I don't have a roll bar or harness bar to attach cameras to.@@taiwilson8966
Where do you want to attach them?
savagegeese preferably near the passenger side A pillar either on the windshield or passenger window for most of the shots.
Once again another gem ! You really are in a league of your own with your great content.
I wish it didn’t look like a blobfish from the front.
Also @1:50 - panel gap problems you can see from a city block away. You’ve criticized cars that weren’t even this bad. What gives?
All the cars at the press launch were pre-production
Blobfish! Can't be unseen.
He will do a full review after the production model is released
@james varte Ah. Thx.
Thank you for explaining to the people why Toyota worked with BMW, and now it's affordable for everyone. People are so quick to judge and hating on the new Supra And for those saying it's basically driving a BMW, well maybe shouldn't judge if they havnt driven one.