The Bizarre Case Of James Rayl
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
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This Video Is For Educational Purposes. It is meant to show the psychology behind how police interact with suspects to try and get their confession.
In this JCS Inspired video, we take a look at the case of James Rayl. After leaving his ex-girlfriend a strange voicemail, he decides to show up at her house.
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Dude, your commentaries are incredible. You do an amazing job. I love your channel. These are outstanding.
The neighbor is a twat
Thank you for that. When I was assaulted in Santa Monica, the police told me, “the threat is gone,” adding, what do I want them to do now. Thank you for your comment.
In the beginning You made this story sound like it was mysterious this was not mysterious at all it was clear cut case this was a joke of a video you truly suck at choosing stories/video topics.
Great video but the audio was so out of sync I had to just listen to the interview portions because watching at the same time was really messing with being able to actually focus on what's happening
There are an awful lot of murders committed by guys who just wanted to talk.
Exactly!
That's what all psycho exes begin with....I just want to talk
Whatever they’re still murderers and it’s their own fault. Women don’t owe exes anything. It’s over. Done. History. Nothing good is going to come from talking to an ex.
yardly i just wanna tawk!!!
@@blahblorp9015 OMG u read my mind!! That guy was Crazy!!
Am I the only one who gets annoyed at that neighbor? He sounded so judgey. Just because someone "doesn't have anything" like a gun or whatever visible, didn't mean that James wasn't perceived as a real threat. The family didn't know he wasn't armed, and James broke their door down despite warnings. I do feel a bit bad for James sister, but it's disgusting of her to edit the video and demonize the family. Just my opinion.
Yesssss!! Then he immediately tried to tell the cops the same thing. So annoying. Part of me is like, if the neighbor didn’t even witness anything then leave the cops alone and go back to your house.
You sound so judgey. Imagine seeing an unarmed clean-cut looking kid shot full of holes in front of the house next to you, you'd be alarmed too.
Worst neighbor ever.
No, he is a jerk
I was just going to comment on that. Who the hell is he to come up like that?
In what world does stalking, breaking into a house, and attacking the homeowner NOT justify self defense. His family is delusional
In the liberal world order we have now people want to live in panty land
I woukd Hardly call calo8ng once and leaving one voice mail stalking
@@carolo6430 The mother and daughter went out to eat lunch and he was following them around in his car, pulling into their driveway right after them when they got home. What's wrong with you?
denial does that... it's a funny human emotion isnt it
Atleast now we know that his family won't shoot you if you break in thier house to get at thier daughter
If he didn’t get to her that day…he would have another day. Dad definitely just saved her life!
100 percent agree
I'm glad most of these comments are from people with some sense, because I remember when this initially happened, there were actually people with the nerve to blame the dad for using excessive force. Like, what 🤦🏽♀
@mzsurr Exactly, breaking someone's door in while they're home and warning you to stop from the other side is not normal. He was not right in the head and there's no clue what he would have done if he'd gotten inside.
Yes, this is what I thought too
If that were a certainty you'd be able to answer why he never came for her for the previous 2 fucking years. Most likely this lad had a mental health issue possibly sparked by some habbitual LSD use over prior years, that due to your nations shitty medical system coupled with your country having more guns than people, got a kid killed rather than restrained and treated. I am sure his family is most pleased with such an outcome along with the daughter the father was protecting who will be traumatised as will the father himself. America can sleep well, justice has been served, regardless of the cost of that.
Bravo all round.
That father did NOT owe James a fair fight in his home to protect his family. What happens if he loses that fight and his family is defenseless? The father did not instigate the situation. If someone tries to kick your door in with the clear intent to harm your daughter are you going to worry about his well being before your child's? Of course not, people like to play holier-than-thou and what they would have done when they didn't have to feel terrified in the moment. Great job Dad!!!
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I mean your not wrong. But I think I can out wrestle a teenager at the same time lol I wouldn’t shoot the kid, I don’t think the dad should go to jail, but I think the dad is a coward and prob could have handled it in a way to where the kid doesn’t have to die
Absolutely true. James didn't respond to dad's warnings, was really angry re being rejected, didn't respect boundaries and might have been armed or could have armed himself in the house.
James was an absolute psycho at this moment.
THIS!!! I would put more bullets through someone trying to bust down my damn door trying to get to one of my kids, idgaf who they are, weapon or not. And one thing the father did wrong was letting her do this interrogation without a lawyer 😞 no matter what they question you or a loved one about GET A LAWYER!
Lol c'mon now
Can you imagine if they didn’t have the ring footage? Especially with the way his family is trying to portray the situation.
Families who stick together to lie are scum
Im sure the makers of Ring want this story told since likely someone in her family would be locked up without it.
What is his family saying?
Technology is a great thing!
@@tabby73 his sisters name is Jessica and she is really thinking they purposely murdered James. She actually put out on her instagram an edited version of the ring camera. Not showing James breaking into the home and it had no audio. So when she wrote that these people killed her brother in cold blood the people that saw it didn’t realize that he was being told to leave and that they had a gun
The neighbor really irks me. He has NO idea what’s going on, yet steps in like he does.
Well his neighbors just murdered somebody.
@@garrysekelli6776 He’s still a meddling irk. Has no idea what’s transpired but saunters over with an attitude.
@@garrysekelli6776 No, they did not 'murder' him. He 'murdered' himself. I guess if someone was trying to break your door in you would just go in the kitchen and make them a sandwich. What a dullard you are. You remind me of the neighbor
Oh, you know there's always the most neighbor, hoping he'll be on TV. Hate nosey people.
@@garrysekelli6776 Killed someone in self defense*
This is why I'll always ask for a lawyer even if I'm the victim. The video showed that the only thing on James' mind was violence and the justice system still tried to get an indictment on the father.
I think it is more of an anti gun thing.
I agree I saw people on other channels being real anti defense lawyer like these people were only interested in throwing someone in prison not about what is right
If you're going to break into someone's house you may want to be prepared for the consequences.
Yes he did. Do you not see the door? You think he was there to give them all chocolates, flowers, and kisses? No. He was there to hurt his ex.
@@WoodyWard it doesn't matter, he was attempting to break in despite being warned to leave and that they had armed themselves. You never know if the person claiming to be armed is or isn't. That's certainly not a gamble I'd be willing to take.
100%! You break in, you get a bullet at my house. It's just that simple.
@@kolenadeau1345 he's prolly a relative or a friend. There's a bunch of them trying to justify what this creep was doing and have the dad thrown in jail. Ain't gonna happen lol.
I think young boy had a deathwish.
Instead of James Family trying to get justice for James, they should’ve taught him how to deal with rejection
EXACTLY.
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Yeah out of emotions and not with facts and conscience they are doing what they think is right. When people operate with emotions they tend to be blinded by it and instead starts to challenge even what has been already justified by court and people from all walks of life, through crystal clear evidence. As for me if that person is my brother i will never tolerate or compromise such behaviour even if he is wronged by a girl. I rather would have feel embarrassed by his sickening behaviour trying to forced himself into someone's house.
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Yeah, not even sure what “justice” they were after.
James did not just “try” to break in…he DID break the door in. THAT is when dad shot him.
Exactly 💯
The dad could have shot him in the leg. He shot him in the chest like a trigger happy civilian. That kid was not a danger to the family.
This is unacceptable. He should have been offered some water at least
Yea I seen that too he didn't just knock he tried to get in the door then did and broke in to do it do that at my house and your gonna get shot too especially when I tell you no leave like they did tell him and he still broke in
I think it's self defense he broke tf in their house they told him to leave more than once and told him no stop go away and he still broke it who knows what he was going to do to them he was manic and crazy trying to get in so come on now but idk if he was provoked even if he was still in my opinion he had no right to just break in their home like that
Woooooow... Just wooow.
We're now victim blaming..
"This could have been avoided is she replied to his messages.!!"
She does NOT OWE HIM A REPLY!!!!
They hadn't spoken for years,
It could have all been avoided if He did not show up at their house. It could have all been avoided if he walked away when asked to... She did not owe him a reply, stop with your sense of entitlement....
Don't go to people's house and try to break their door....
He would have walked away too, when he was told she doesn’t want to talk to you. And what is reason of breaking someone house when they repeatedly told him leave?
What does is mean to owe someone a reply I thought people just replied out of love and lack of neglect. But I guess you gotta owe somebody to reply.
What does is mean to owe someone a reply I thought people just replied out of love and lack of neglect. But I guess you gotta owe somebody to reply.
Everyone knows that karen
@@adrian4565so not replying to someone who you don’t want to talk to and who is creeping you out is neglect?
There are plenty of cases of ex boyfriend's " just wanting to talk"....than they end up blaming the victim for them sexually assaulting them and killing them because she wouldn't talk him.....Only James knows what his intentions were if he had gotten through that door, and I highly doubt it would have been a peaceful conversation if he had to break into the house to say it.
I'm really wondering what his plan was. It's one thing if she was the only one home, but he clearly knew her parents were there, so was he going to kill them all? So strange & in the daytime, too lol
@@d3l3tes00n very strange case, only he knows...
Something feels so off. I highly doubt he wanted to rape the girl. Probably beat her ass and her dad but rape? Doubt dude was into that. The daughter feels off. Something is wrong there
@slutpuppy You know what they say; If they sneek in, they're after your stuff. If they break in, they're after you.
I know it's never 100% a certainty here, but it puts my mind at rest from wondering to think about all the horrific crime headlines,
and know that "Obsessed Ex Breaks In to Murder Entire Family In Broad Daylight" would be a truly unsurprising one.
@@bentonrp I've literally never heard of that saying and I have seen plenty of smash and grabs and plenty of people who sneak in, wait for the mark and then rape and kill them
The neighbor’s behavior in this situation INFURIATES me, because this is exactly how people acted when it was my mom and I being stalked and harassed by my mother’s ex husband who was on meth at the time. “Oh he wasn’t gonna do anything to you!” The police dismissed us time and time again because there was no video evidence and dozens of witnesses to one event didn’t mean anything. He tried to break in and ran when he heard our ADT alarm. “You’re overreacting, stop being so dramatic…”
If I would’ve had a gun in that situation, I would’ve done the same damn thing. Shame on how the outsiders reacted to it. You don’t even know the psychological damage you’ve just compounded onto this family…
1000% correct 😊
We used to have a neighbor who kept pressing himself against my mom's bedroom window, and the police were like "Well what do you wear to bed at night? Do you close your blinds?" I get why they ask for clothing details for other crimes, but it's like... this grown-ass man is *pressing himself against the window* in a house that has TWO MINORS (at the time) and you guys are just laughing it off? I'm not big on guns at all, but I wish we'd had one at that house between the sexual predator and the drug dealing. I'm not sure the dog we ended up getting actually helped at all, but it was nice to have her.
Those who are quick to judge like that are a prime example of people who run purely on emotion
I'm so sorry you went through that. I had an evil stepfather who is now dead, thank god!! Hugs from canada
It’s the world we live in. Someone will ask if life is more important than property. I say the life that will threaten my life for my property has no value. I hold my friends and family in much higher regard than any of my property. I agree…we should all get cameras and lawyers, walk softly and carry a big stick. Poppa bear did his job with significantly more restraint than the average man would have.
Until I saw the ring cam footage I really thought it was just a dad who didn't like his daughter's boyfriend.
Nope. It was a psycho ex who felt he was owed a conversation with her. Felt so entitled that he would break the door down to get to her. That's a guy you protect your family from.
I hope this leads you to realize the media doesn't always tell the truth. Wake up!
Yep, if he had got in and she still did not want to listen he would have no doubt applied physical means to MAKE her listen to him. Stupid fool even knew the father had a gun.
Yeppie
Right. I was surprised he did that to the door and with the dad not knowing, welp, that's how you protect your home 💯😳
Also, you never know if he was gonna break in and harm the daughter. The way he was trying to break the door down, he wanted to cause violence. He wasn’t just trying to have a conversation..
I had a similar situation happen to me, and I believe the dad in this made the best decision to save his family's lives. I had an ex that had bpd and whenever he drank or smoked weed would act really scary and strange, similar to the guy at the door in this video. His substance abuse was obviously interacting with his mental condition, and he took no accountability for it. When I left him, he would leave creepy messages on my phone and refused to leave me alone. Even sent me texts telling me I'd never find anyone, just like James did to Allyson. One day he called me to "meet and talk about things", and I refused because it gave me a really bad feeling. Later that night he showed up at my house, tried to break in, and ended up taking his own life in my driveway when the police approached him. The police told me they thought he was planning on killing me and possibly my family. Had I met him "to talk" I probably wouldn't be alive right now. The dad in this video is a hero. You never know what someone is capable of doing when they aren't in their right mind like this.
That's downright demonic glad you are ok. This is why I don't date. It seems some people get ATTACHED. There really is no casual dating.
I'm inclined to agree , I think if he didn't die here the daughter would've eventually. Best out of a bad situation.
Glad you made it out safe
It's amazing how beneficial to your health not breaking into people's homes when they constantly yell at you not to, can be
As a health and wellness consultant, I always start off by giving my clients a print out of the Do's & Don'ts according to their personal goals. Number one "Do" is be accountable. Number one "Don't" Is showing up at your ex's house uninvited and attempt to break in even after your ex's father made you aware that he had a fire arm and will use it if necessary. You'd be surprised at how many of my clients don't have a problem with that one. 😉
People tell me I look younger than my 41 years. They ask if I think it’s genetics or my exercise and diet. I tell them it’s neither, that I’m kept youthful and healthy by my consistent lack of attempts to break into an ex’s home despite warning being screamed through the door. I’m a bit of a purist so I don’t break down ANY doors, even without people to scream warnings at me. I’m a health nut, what can I say?
Y’all all seriously just put a smile on my face.
Yeah, I don’t break into people’s houses to get to their daughter, and I’ve literally never been shot.
Lmfao this has me dead
Man, the dumbass neighbor pissed me off in this case. (I've seen a lot about this case prior to watching this video.) He had no idea what was happening yet he decides to tell cops that the suspect wasn't a threat and basically tried to get the father convicted. He rubbed me the wrong way from the jump.
Same here.
Yeah the neighbor seems to be under the impression that an aggressor needs to be armed before it can be shot. As if there's a tacit agreement between home owner and home invader to declare weapons and intent prior to perpetration. This kind of thinking is more common than you'd expect, unfortunately.
He should have went to jail for being so trigger happy, this was a murder
@@MyName-pl7zn So your saying he should have waited until he got past the door attacked the old man. Took his gun and shot the daughter. Lol
@@ginakenyon5373 no I am saying you don't shoot though the door, this was just a kid that was mad if he threatened you with physical harm perhaps I would see it differently but everyone is to quick to kill
You know who else just wanted to talk to the point that he broke a door? Convicted murderer George hugely ( probably botched the spelling of that surname). He just wanted to talk to his ex so badly he broke into her dorm and bludgeoned her to death
I just really wanted to tawlk to her. Good point. I remember that case. His voice was so annoying!
@@jenaking775 almost as bad as his entitlement
@@MrAwesomeone True statement!
@@jenaking775 is that the like,like,like guy ?
And a scary thing about people that attack their ex's is "overkill". They go absolutely crazy, so the victim has zero chance of survival.
God I can’t imagine the fear as a parent seeing your child go through this. That dad is a HERO
Heroes don't shoot injured, retreating young men in the back twice, you small-minded goon
He literally warned james at 2:27 that he has a gun and james didnt even care
I had not realized that James stood at their door for 6 minutes, and never said a word, nor responded to their voices. That puts this incident on another level of Creepdom! The smear job by James' sister has no basis in reality.
I or my husband would have done the same thing, even though neither one of us is a big gun person....after Katrina, I changed my tune on gun ownership.
Yeah, I’m not a gun person at all. But self defense is one of the things that at least makes sense, and here it was obviously necessary.
Why after Katrina?
Based on sister's behavior, James' entire family is disturbed while Allison's family is caring and feel terrible this situation happened, but they are allowed to protect themselves.
@@heatherlamoureux0 probably the mass looting
@@heatherlamoureux0 looters, assault, rape, etc.
“You’re the best dad ever! You just saved my life!”
I don’t know why that made me so emotional.
Because it´s true, that´s why! That dad truly saved his daughter!
Oh man SAME!!!😢😢😢
True that
Cause you're drunk ...
if you got move for that probably is because you felt related somehow to her... but we have to put that phrase in the context and dismiss it as something you say in a shock state... when broken relationships are in that shitty stage obviously the girl HATE the boy with all her heart.. she doesnt wants to hear anything from him.. she can not have any empathy for him even if he continues to look for her desperately... but that doesnt necessary means a theat to her.. but a emotional dependecy of him to her... so for that reason, and to empathize with the father who just killed someone and make him feel better, is that she said that...
You can tell the family are absolutely heartbroken that it got to that level of danger we’re they are forced to protect their daughter themselves and their home. It must hurt, but they did the right thing
This is why I tell my daughters don't go out with guys just to go out with guys if you can't see yourself with them then do not get involved. The problem this guy had is he fell in love with her most likely when she was younger and deeply in love then one day she realized she wants something else so she starts to distance herself which since he still feels the same he starts to become angry and abusive at her never ending games girls do this all the time they keep the guy on a string Incase she feels lonely one day I've seen this 100 times girls find weak men for a book mark and this is always the outcome she's completely innocent has no clue why he is obsessed he changed blah blah blah she's not telling the full story there's more that's missing but he's dead so she can tell any tale at this point. That boy is an idiot but she knew that and still got involved. He's dead and she's probably moved clean on she never cared for him other than a stuffed animal. I'm not standing up for the guy but I'm not going to pretend he randomly pulled this stunt. The cops know the truth they know they were talking she spun a web of trying to control her ex at a distance and it blew up in her face.
This is the reason I make sure my house is insured by Mossberg and Springfield.
@@gib59er56 I agree with being able to protect yourself. I've had to shoot a burglar. This kid wasn't dangerous though. I think he had some kind of break, was confused, or wasn't all there at the moment. There was no reason for him to try to go into the house but he didn't seem aggressive. Only he knows why he was doing it.
@@thejohn6614 You could be right, it is funny ,I made the same type of comment, or thought about Burke Ramsey. Everyone was saying, that guy killed his sistr.111 ..But after seeing and hearing him, I thought, no way, he is just too fragile. So you could be right. I am lucky, I have never had to shoot any burglar and hope I never have to. That being said, I still keep my Mossberg 12 with .00 buck next to my bed.
@@techkingdata9338 y'know you make a pretty good argument
"Youre the best dad, you saved my life" that man is a hero and i feel bad for him and his family. That ex was a psycho!!!
I remember an interview by the guy's sister after he was shot where she made a bunch of excuses for him. She just said that he was an innocent guy just trying to check on the well-being of a friend. To me it indicated that he came from an environment that fostered and encouraged his narcissistic personality. I think what happened was is he had a psychotic break, and paired with his narcissism it made him very dangerous.
Yes whenever I check up on a friend I stand silently on their porch and then bang on the door like I'm trying to break in rather than just sending a text message or leaving a note.
oh man the old narcissist family. I used to work with this girl who’s on/off boyfriend was an absolute psycho in every way and his entire family was the the exact same way lol and would defend him tooth and nail lol she recorded a video of him beating on her front door and screaming infront of her and her kids who were inside and then a day later his parents were texting the girl “you need to leave our son alone!!! we are going to file a restraining order!” she was like he came to my house and pounded on my door what are you talking about?? lol The guy was nuts and would call our office and find random email addresses of people in management (myself included) and say all kinds of incriminating stuff about her. He sent me and another manager and email one time claiming she was embezzling money and we just laughed because she does not even have the access or ability to to steal any money, her job had nothing to do with money or having a company card or even ordering anything. Truly a psychotic person
If a friend or family member turned up at their exes house after years and tried breaking their door down... I can't say I would support or defend them at all. That's aggressive and messed up. The family had every right to defend themselves from an aggressor
Yup! While watching this video, it reminded me eerily of an x bf, who I had cut communication with due to his odd, pushy and stalking behavior. He blew my phone up with texts and voice messages, somehow even after i blocked his number 😳 He would later force his way into my families home and not leave when told to... The police were called and he then left before they arrived. It leaves you with the feeling that it's not over in his mind... Even to this day I'm watching over my shoulder wondering if he might be still stalking me, with nefarious plans because he was told NO, and the police warned him to cut communication with me completely or he would be charged. Definitely a Narcissist😳
Where can I find the sisters interview?
I wonder if their neighbor is so chill when people are trying to break into his home
The neighbor had no clue what was going on. I think it’s pretty normal to be concerned/skeptical when your neighbor shoots and kills someone. It being a case of self defense might not be the first case that comes to mind.
If ya got no gun, you're welcome to beat my door in
Those types are always super eager to shoot when it's their butt on the line. They just like talking down to others.
@@myeyesseelies5647 Lol mad
@@bigdadybojangls9219 nah, his neighbor was a cop. So they would have shot way sooner. And there would have been a gun found on the body.
It's disgusting that his sister thinks she owed him a conversation, and posted an edited video of the encounter so that the warnings are muted. I hope she is stopped before she radicalizes someone to hurt this family more. She even doxxed them!
And now people are attacking them because she had a nervous smile, but not the crap neighbor who inserted himself into it like he was some authority figure.
They didnt know whether or not he had a weapon, and it's safe to assume he did not wait for him to get into the house and find out too late, since he was already being terrifying and aggressive. I hope this family finds peace again one day.
I 100% agree!
The sister is greving and not accepting what happened, she must have been very close with his brother
İ couldn't disagree more. There needs to be objective reasonable evidence of a deadly threat to innitiate deadly force. An unarmed man in a 3 to one physical fight does not warrant deadly force. They even cowardly shot through the door rather than confronting and presenting the force multiplier.
His sister is just a weak victim mentality like him. It’s gross. Fuk her and all like her.
Also what type of a door is that? İf you own a handgun for self defense you should also have a security door or replace the screws with bolts so at least a battering ram is needed to gain entry.
He forcibly entered the home by breaking through the door. He was warned by the father and didn't leave. He still chose to break in.
He didn't warn him before shooting though and only a major coward or someone aiming to kill shoots somebody already running in the back. It was the shot in the back that killed him too
That neighbor is a dork. How tf do you know what he has on him?
Yeah total dork. Doesn't want people just going around shooting anytime any type of dispute arises.
👆🏾 You seem very defensive about this. A man calmly BROKE A DOOR DOWN to someone's house and for some reason you feel that it's okay. You break into someone's house and most states grant you immunity from prosecution for putting them down because your are protecting your family. Yes, putting them down, because only an uncivilized beast breaks into someone's home. I'm not waiting to find out if the nut job breaking into my house coming after my daughter is armed or not after being warned repeatedly to stop. How defensive you are of this person, who probably would've killed that girl is weird.
@@farmhouseonthemountain you can’t just shoot someone who’s unarmed !!
@@welshhibby if that was you in the house how would you really know if he was unarmed. All they knew at that moment was that he wasn’t getting off the property and kept trying to break open the door. They did the right thing. Boy should’ve walked away when he had the chance. Sorry not sorry
@welshhibby you can if they're bashing your door down to get at your daughter after you've warned them multiple times that you're armed.
I firmly believe he was there to do something to her he had made it up in his mind that it’s what he wanted to do and in the heat of the moment he committed 100 percent to seeing it through. I also firmly believe her father did exactly what was necessary to protect his family!
absolutely. he was breaking down their door .... he was there to do more than only talk to her.
We'll never know for sure what this young man's intentions were because nobody really asked him. Seems he's probably suffering from a psychiatric disorder and the whole disaster could've been avoided easy enough. I'm shocked! So glad most people don't own guns here in Canada.
Exactly! This guy was nuts and wasn't going to listen to anyone saying no... he was determined to end her life.
Think about this, he followed home the wife and daughter probably thinking it was just them, two defenseless women. When he got confronted at the door, he found out the father was home, and that STILL didn’t make him change his mind. That proves 100% that James’ intent was to commit violence, because he knew that if he got into the home there was a grown ass man waiting inside, not just the two women. On top of that the father also announced that he was armed, yet again it did nothing to stop James. Unfortunately I think it’s a simple case of a genuinely insane person losing their faculties and becoming a danger to society.
@@charlesbrown4483 Not sure if genuinely insane, or very entitled.
I'm really glad I have a Ring. This was terrifying to watch. He busted through the door even though he was being told to leave and that they had a gun. And James wasn't murdered. He was killed. There is a big difference.
I have to look into this ring camera. It's not easy to block it or dismantle?
@@Fullmetalseagul got it. Thank you so much!!!
@@Fullmetalseagul how can they get the footage without the warrant? And ty for the info. That's good information to have.
@@thejohn6614ring/google allow law enforcement to have access to the footage without a warrant in the event of an emergency. It’s just part of their policy.
@@Nightfall-TCG that's fucked. Alright thanks.
I understand that James's family is grieving and wants to stand up for their family... but there is definitely a fine line where you have to accept James had issues or was genuinely trying to hurt someone that day. Or any other day.
Where y'all was at while he was drinking or doing whatever til he lost it? Why y'all didn't get James some help
@@KennorisGreen-p4b I just learned about this dude 8 months ago, and have since forgotten him. Ain't that deep.
If you actually read the things his family writes they are all clearly psychopaths
@@JayJ-b6l fair enough
Man when the daughter says your the best dad ever you saved my life that hit me right in the feels. As a father of a daughter I know that I would do the same in a heartbeat to protect my little girl.
she was probably trying to make sure her dad knows she appreciates what he did for her. i'm sure killing someone (whether it was in self defense or not does not matter) would cause some trauma for any normal person.
Birdshot buckshot
@@eg4374 I agree but he was willing to put himself through that to protect his daughter amazing!
@@eg4374 if you watch his police interview, you can tell he feels really bad about it. I'm sure he wasn't thinking "I'm gonna 'unalive' this guy", he was just doing what he had to do to protect his family.
Lmaoo yes ! I said why am I crying 😭
People trying to justify James is part of the problem. Domestic violence is real. Exs constantly calling, showing up to a house uninvited, trying to break a door down YES THEY ARE A THREAT! And legally a threat should be handled before a whole family ends up murdered.
Exactly there's been many people murdered by their ex in situations like this. It's not normal behavior to try to beat down somebody's door breaking your way inside illegally "just to talk" Not saying he had intended to hurt or kill her or her family but he obviously wasn't in his right mind so it could have easily ended up as such.
Some of these guy are badly in need of exposure to information that contradicts whatever narratives they are loyal to.
How much more obvious does someone's threat need to be if a guy ignoring warnings that he is going to get shot as he smashes through the front door isn't enough for these kiddies saying it wasn't a legitimate time to open fire?
One Tex message and one voicemail does not mean domestic abuse lol they never spoke for two years
@@eddiebreen5933 breaking a door down, screaming demands count as domestic violence, please Google these things before you make yourself look silly
@@moonutella5581 killers of a unarmed man typical American he phoned once not constantly think you should listen to what was said the holes in window was bullets so what other damage happened they were behind a locked door .
I had a stalker ex in high school just like this. He would show up at my house years later just like this guy out of nowhere. I called my neighbor terrified and they said “he seems like a nice guy who just wants to talk to you” after she confronted him and sent him to my house! He ended up breaking into my moms house in the middle of the night looking for me and got arrested… this dad did the right thing. I still live in fear of this guy as he still try’s to contact me over 10 years later..
How awful. What do you think would have gotten through to that neighbor? People haven’t taken me seriously and I’m looking all over for why? What can I say?
@@icu3869 in my situation, people instantly started acting like I led this guy on in some way.. I honestly barely dated this dude at 15 years old. Society tends to blame victims almost unconsciously. If I could go back I’d have informed everyone in my life the extent of the situation at hand and MAKE them take me seriously. I’m sorry your going through some version of this, it’s extremely disheartening to hear these same stories over and over from so many people.
@@kaylamarie9993 glad you’re ok.
Your story makes no sense. How did your neighbor send him to your house?
@@gooosb she came out of her house after I called her, talked to him, called me back and said I sent him back over so you guys can talk it out or however she said it lol. Idk how to pack all the little details into one comment.
The dad saved his daughter and protected future women who would've crossed his path. Well done sir.
What the hell is it with ex-boyfriends who "just wanna talk".
😂
There's always more to the "just wanna talk".
It’s never the case.
Dunno, what's with these guys always having girlfriends?
Listen to the George Huguley interrogation.
The ex pulling in behind the mother and daughter gives the impression he followed them home, otherwise just uncanny timing
The home owner had a secure property with door cameras. James was told to stop and leave the property. The father told him he had a gun, James at that stage should have backed off. James, decided to go against the odds and smash the door in. It's sad that a life was lost but the home owner was protecting his family. 👍
He didn't smash the door in, the father shot through the door
No kidding. What is wrong with people lol. If someone says stop trying to come in my house I have a gun why on earth would you keep trying to get in lol and if u keep trying to kick it in you absolutely deserve whatever you get. Personally I feel like the dad didn't even have to say that. He gave the kid every chance to stop. He would still be in the right even if he never said it and I feel like he only reason he even did say it was probably hoping the threat would make him stop
@@mr.mclibtard5015 Okay, so he was in the process of bashing the door in. On the other side of the door, they could not know what they were dealing with in terms of intoxication or weapons. Maybe if he could not break the door down,James would start firing rounds into the house himself. It's a risk the father was not willing to take.
@Mr. McLibtard he broke the door off the hinges and broke the bolt it looks like. You'd wait to see if he was gonna be nice? Foh. He deserved it. You don't break in or try breaking in someone's house with good intentions..why not just invite craziness to your house
@@S-tank_ Absolutely, the father had no way of knowing if James was armed. The fact that James proceeded to put his shoulder to the door suggests he meant business.
With crime the way it is, anybody could get hold of a firearm. As I said Tony, it was very sad that a young man lost his life. Let it be a lesson to lots of people who think they can shoulder their way in to another persons home, after being told several times to leave.
Anyone who believes that he didn’t deserve what happened to him has severe mental health issues
Exactly. He got what he deserved. Sorry if it sounds cold or whatever, but it's just the truth.
Don’t believe he deserved to be killed, he definitely was going through some stuff but the victims are the family and they should never have been put in position to have had to have shot him.
i think something else is wrong with them. bc people with mental health issues aren’t stupid lmaoo.
@@GeorgiaNash-ul7qhdad didn’t shoot to kill. Just happened to kill. If he didn’t wanna be shot he should have not broken down the door.
@@dharmallars I agree am completely on the dads side
That poor girl, and her family. They had every right to defend themselves. Insane people think he should have just had the right to bust down their door and storm their home.
Right? This is America. We are allowed and have a constitutional right to protect ourselves and our property. Try breaking into a home, and we don't need to know if you're armed with a weapon of some kind. If the homeowners have firearms, you WILL be shot, and rightly so.
True definition of a nosey neighbor if I have ever seen one, have him come over to your house if you thi k he poses no threat, dumbass!
I'm not even a gun type and I don't have anything to say about the shooting. Listening to your front door splintering is terrifying.
Women so often feel they "owe" their ex one more conversation, and that's how a lot of true crime videos and cop shows start.
Poor James.
Cowards with your guns, this situation could have ended a million different ways, but Na in your American eyes its always the person was a potential murderer who had to be shot with a gun, cowards
I feel so desperately sorry for this family and the dad in particular. He's clearly a caring man who never would have imagined this happening. He's been put in an awful situation and will feel dreadful about it for the rest of his life. So sad.
He has no reason to feel bad. Dude broke into his house trying to get his daughter. He should have fired another 3 shots.
@@jrex3 I agree but he feels dreadful nonetheless.
nah he deserves life in prison
Yeah, you can see he was crushed by the situation. In the body cam footage, he was laying on the floor to keep himself from passing out. Im glad the family is safe now, but im also so sad that it got to that point. And James, i wish he had gotten the mental health that he needed. Its a sad situation all around
@@Chaotic_Observer wasnt it the girl ? Lying on the floor?
What's the problem, they didn't ask him to turn up. The interfering shit stirring neighbour gave a running commentary on how cool the mad home invader was without knowing a thing about him, who would probably shit his pants if the loon was knocking on his door. I feel so sorry for this family who were going peacefully about their innocent private lives.
That doesn't justify killing someone. In Europe we don't have guns, in a case like this, they would have called the police and / or exchange a few words and that's all.
@@xferaaaa I'm in the UK and I hate guns they should be banned. But that's their culture and they used a gun for its intended purpose if any purpose could be justified.
@@xferaaaa
Look up George Huguely the Fifth. "Interrogation of Someone who Doesn't Like Being Told No" on this channel. Similar case, unarmed ex boyfriend "just wants to talk". Busted down the girl's door, wrestled her to the ground, then beat her to death. You can't just assume the psycho ex boyfriend is going to break your door down like a murderer, then just stand there calmly talking afterwards.
@@xferaaaa That's bullshit. Don't make out like you would have invited him in for tea. I might not have a gun but I'd have a kitchen knife or a pair of scissors and if that man entered my home, he would be getting stabbed. Also, Europe isn't a country. All countries in Europe have different laws about guns and maybe you should do some research about gun ownership across the continent. You're in for a shock.
@@xferaaaa That's why your country is a shithole with acid attacks lmfao
I know a guy who's in jail right now for breaking into someone's house & assaulting them with a knife, saying first he was going to kill them, then that he wanted to kill himself while they watched. He went to jail about 5yrs ago for pretty much the exact same thing & I know I'll see him around town again in another year or two & he'll be all lined up to do it again. Knowing what I know about life & the justice system I'll say this dad absolutely made the right decision
But he had a knife, James didn't.
@@charmaine6125 they didn’t know if he had any weapons 🙄 What if he had something in his pockets???
@@charmaine6125 You don't need a knife to hurt someone. And the family didn't know whether he had a knife or not.
You don't take chances you might come to regret.
"You're the best dad ever!"
This is a "real man." He doesn't come across as any type of aggressive person. It's not like he lost his temper as a matter of fact he openly admits he was afraid. It took pure courage and love to do what he did even when he hated to do it. What a hero and how lucky are they to have him. I can't see any jury convicting this man.
Thanks for the video! Interesting to see something a little different.
Wrong. He was a pussy coward with a gun who "feared for his life"
Remember when we used to give old fashion beat downs instead of killing people that attacked us without a weapon?
@@EvaLasta lol This isn’t a bar fight. A guy is standing at your dog demanding to talk to your daughter and then goes silent for 6 mins. Yea I’m not taking the chance that the guy is armed especially while he’s trying to get to my daughter. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Hero lol. Hero would neutralize the situation without killing the guy.
Stop with this real man bullshit.
pro tip: the police are not talking with you to get your side, they are trying to find charges to arrest you. GET A LAWYER ALWAYS!
I’m glad they are too stupid to get a lawyer
@@darkone292 criminals most def
@@jimsworthow531 you think the family that protected themselves are criminals?!
@@nightynightshade no; the opposite.
@@jimsworthow531 oh ok I see.
I’m so glad the father wasn’t sentenced for protecting himself & his family. I’m also sorry James didn’t get the mental help he seems to have needed prior to this. Just all round sad.
Wow really????......
Mental help? He was on fucken drugs .....
@@sicklecell6863 what? Wishing someone got the mental help needed before this happened is a “wow, really” comment? If you’re so delusional to think that getting that kid mental help before hand is a “wow, really” moment then hopefully your kid don’t end up the same.
It's funny how people think "mental help" means they can just go see a doctor, talk to a few people and magically be cured. It doesn't work like that. Usually they get on meds, do fine for a year or two, stop taking their meds and start acting up again.
This was the only permanent solution to his problem
@@silkroad1201 hopefully you never have mental health issues with that attitude. I’ve had mental health issues for 10+ years.. prescribed medicine and relapsed off said medicine and I’ve never murdered nor wanted to, but you know why that might be the case? I went and seen a professional (outside of a doctor & their prescribed meds) and I’m fine. Get that head out of your ass.
Why the hell would they even put it in front of a grand jury? This was clearly self-defense and should have been dismissed immediately after the interviews.
If anybody is confused about what the term “gaslighting” means , just observe the neighbor’s reaction as an example for the class
Yup! "He didn't have a gun! You shot him?? Okay, well he doesn't have a gun!" Oh, wow, so that means he has no other way to kill or harm this family, right? Stupid neighbor!!
Gaslighting is still far more than that. He was just an oblivious neighbor
That is literally not gaslighting
@@d3l3tes00n true but it’s important to not make assumptions that can affect people’s freedom
@@peytonyep I would say that yes, it’s not literally lighting a physical gas lamp.
The psychos family is all over the internet seeking " justice" for James Rayl? What would they do if someone kicked in their front door while trying to get to their daughter? This dad did exactly what I and most anybody else would have done.
They would've called a social worker, who would've de-esculated the situation instantly and nonviolently, because that's just how that works
Call a social worker? 🤣 I hope that was sarcasm.🤣🤣🤣
They wanted justice for Tampon Martin and Fentanyl Floyd too.
People wanted and got justice for george, the fentanyl, floyd
@@KamalasFakePolls Wow. Racist pos foreign troll much? Why aren't you in Ukraine getting your butt kicked alongside your comrades. Anal warts? Bone spurs? Cowardice? All three?
The neighbor makes me so so angry. It’s insane to me that someone decides to come on your property just to be nosy and watch a potentially very dangerous situation unfold … that’s bad enough. To walk up like that and try to tell someone how to handle something like that when they have 0 information as to what’s happening or why … l can’t. And to start saying he doesn’t have a gun … he says he doesn’t have a gun because he didn’t see the dude holding a gun but he has no idea what the guy could be concealing. To try and judge someone and how they should or shouldn’t be able to defend themselves and their family is one of the most entitled things I’ve heard in my life dude.
The guy actually didn't have a gun though.
"Just to be nosy"? Uh, there's a person bleeding out in front of the house next door to him, think he has no reason to be concerned? Talk about judgemental...
Agree 100%. The neighbor didn't know about the guy trying to break in, didn't know he was trying to get to their daughter, didn't know about the voice-mail left the previous evening, didn't know if James had a concealed weapon. He didn't know anything about the situation and to walk over after the fa t and start throwing around "he doesn't have a gun" like the father did something wrong is not only wrong, he's being a busy body. He is spouting off his mouth without 90% of the facts of the case. Too many people do this nowadays, they act as if they're the moral police of the country.
@@smsiv exactly, and no one bother to check if cpr could help. Just walzing around,and behaving its just a roadkill or something wtf?!
That lard of a father"could very easily aimed for lower body/feets.
@@garrysekelli6776 okay? Doesn't mean they can't cause you great bodily harm
"He ain't got no gun". Well, at least now he has some bullets.
I don't know James, but he obviously was not right in the head at that particular moment In Time. And this family protected themselves from someone who was obviously unstable. My heart breaks for them as they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives
When the father said he did not acknowledge him in the driveway, and just kept his head down, I think he was sleeping standing up. Probably on a 3-4 day Meth bender.
did the father have to shoot him 3 times? do you think that was excessive?
@@99charged Absolutely not. I had two dudes try to open down stairs windows in my house in 2018. My brother got dropped off and took my car to Atlanta GA for the weekend for extra work. When they came around back of the house trying windows I loaded my AR right by the window, they heard it and took off. If they had broke a window or my door, I'd of dropped em. And I'd definitely make sure the threat was eliminated.
Right, he was basically emotionless trying to get in. If he had been able to get mental healthcare instead of his family catering to his mental illness, good chance nothing would have happened.
@@99charged Through a door when you can’t see anything or be sure he can’t still harm someone, no I don’t think so.
James followed Allison & her mom home & was right behind them! Thank goodness they locked the door behind theirselves. This family tried everything they could to get James to leave while keeping safe. I'm sorry James' sister is in pain, but her brother was not sane or safe when he went after Allison and he was warned about the gun.
There has been lots of cases where women went to have a 'final' talk to their ex after a breakup that ended up never coming back home. If he broke down my door, I'd had done anything I could've to protect myself. Gun or not, I'm allowed to stand my ground. I don't care if his family is upset.
Yep and in most cases the guy wants to see her one last time at like 10pm at night, that's a sign to make sure you're not even at your house that night
Lots of men are murdered by their exes too. Typical feminism
@@andrewjoyce9038 why do some of y'all dudes always come in the comments talking about “well women murder men too“ like y'all mad that these guys are getting talked about for murdering women
@@bigman7570 no just sick of women demonizing men all the time
@@andrewjoyce9038 so let me get this right you're watching a video where a man tried to break into his ex girlfriends house and was killed because of it and you see that as women demonizing men?
"was James provoked"?
That does not matter at all. If someone come to your house violently even if provoke that person should call authorities not taken it on himself.
James wasn't a genius. His intentions was to hurt someone.
The fact this went before a grand jury is scary.
I said the same thing before seeing your comment. It should have never gotten that far.
Imagine if there was No Ring Camera set up as evidence. It sounded like one of the investigators didn’t even no what Ring was til father explained it.
@@klaybiggins4040 I think that was him just playing dumb in the possibility of catching them in a lie or inconsistencies.
@@PJtheincel … could be.
Having it presented to a grand jury reduces the chances of James's family claiming that there was a coverup.
James literally says right in the message “we haven’t talked in a while”. I think it’s disgusting what James sister is doing. The whole justice for James crap
I agree with you 💯 percent. I understand that James sister is grieving for her brother & she misses him but this was not cold-blooded murder. James went too that house uninvited & basically was trying to break in. He was
warned several times to let the property. That family had ever right to defend themselves. The sister really needs to let her brother rest in peace BC there is absolutely no case in this situation. & That next door neighbor omg what an aggravating piece of work he was good grief 🥺
No you don’t understand, he had lunchables for them so obviously this was an innocent exchange and her and her dad are master manipulators to telepathically get him to show up and start acting up /s
@@chelscara thanks for the /s. Lol just kidding
@@Army4life82 agreed, with one technicality: he wasn't basically trying to break in- He *did break in.* I'm all for mental healthcare instead of violence, but I wouldn't hesitate for a second to perforate someone who did this same thing at my front door. No way of knowing what he's coming in to do, but if it involves un-framing my door to gain entry, he's probably not there to drop off some flowers. It's crazy that this went to a grand jury at all, even if they did quickly rule not to press charges.
@@Army4life82 He wasn’t just trying to break in, he actively ignored them pleading and begging him to stop and leave. Even further than that, her father made his voice very clear so James knew that even if he got in the house it wasn’t just two defenseless women, that goes to show that James was prepared for violence because he knew a grown ass man was waiting on the other side of the door. On top of that the father announced that he had a gun, none of it mattered to James, it seems to me like he was very mentally-ill. The whole thing is sad and unfortunate, but this kind of stuff happens all the time, there’s just usually not clear footage of it.
Don’t try to bust a door down and get to someone…. It’s really not that hard.
You can’t just shoot someone !
@@welshhibby actually you can, when they bust down the door to your home, it’s fair game. I’d encourage you to educate yourself on self defense laws.
@@welshhibby absolutely you can, it’s called self defense
@@welshhibby Nobody "just shot someone." They warned him, gave them a chance to leave, and had the police on the way. He got what he had coming.
@@welshhibby You absolutely can if they're trying to harm you or your family. Breaking down the door down signaled his intentions
It doesn’t matter if the kid has a gun or not. He tried to break into a family’s home in a violent unhinged way, the father had no way of knowing if he had a gun or weapon. He had every right to defend his family and his home.
Daughter is smart for saying you’re the best dad ever, you saved my life on the body cam footage
saving her dad from going to jail lol
This is so triggering because it almost exactly happened to us. He stalked my sister for years after she left him for being abusive and controlling. One day we got a voicemail from his mom warning us “he’s on his way, he’s drunk and took all his guns” so we went to our dads house to try and stay away from home. His car was parked down the street. We panicked and got in the car and drove directly to the police station. They helped us wait for family to pick us up behind the station to go into hiding 40 miles away. That might ..He turned off his headlights and drove onto my grandparents property in the middle of the night, bolt cut out property gate (10 acres) and was creeping up our driveway. The dog alerted and the neighbor was highway patrol that has been notified there was trouble. He had so many guns. It was the scariest day of my life. Now and then he STILL breaks the restraining order to email her or something. His new gfs find out eventually. He still sleeps with my sisters ring … I worry about her every second of every day
.You should have been arrested for life. It sounds like a murderer.
Yall stay safe and stay ahead of his game. I'd put cameras all over your property/house.
What a creep!! I hope your sister and all of your family are able to stay safe 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Please be careful and have you both considered getting firearms training? I went through stalking after my ex almost killed me and the justice system is absolutely broken
Your sister sounds nice. Maybe I can take her out to the IHOP for a short stack of flapjacks?
I know it's none of my business but I REALLY want to talk to this guy......
Straight up. I was a wild teen and got upset with my girl one time. Her stepdad answered the door. I didn't cause any trouble, but that guy put the fear of God in me. Valuable lesson, and much respect to the parents in this situation.
He put fear in you because I’m guessing you’re a 80’s baby? Our generation was different! We still fist fought and used guns as a last resort! And respected most elders lol
@Isaac Quinones pretty funny 80s baby here thought the same thing.
@@EyeCue23 unfortunately you guys are the elders now and many of your generation turned out to be huge pieces of shit so the younger generations don't feel the need to bother with automatic respect just because you're older.
@@Roxanne3802 lol so your basically saying your generation is full of upstanding citizens?? 🤣🤣 there’s not a single POS in your generation?? Dang that should be a huge deal
@@EyeCue23 Looking at the crime rates, I can say that that’s definitely not true lmao.
He was already showing signs of a abuser. He was mentally abusing her. She was already afraid of him that's why she told her cousin to tell him that she was uncomfortable with him coming around. That why she didn't tell him herself. She ran to hide in the house. So if anyone would know how dangerous he was it was the daughter. She knows her dad saved her life.The voice mail sounded weird
While I know the family, especially the dad, are absolutely emotionally pulverized after what happened, I hope he feels at the very least proud of himself for protecting his baby girl. I know the feeling of both can be so conflicting, but he’s such a great father for doing what he needed to do ❤
Agreed! That man would have entered the home and hurt his daughter. There’s no other reason for him to be.m behaving that way and trying to break in. I truly believe he saved his daughter’s life, and possibly his wife’s and his own.
He shouldn't feel anything for killing the guy. There isn't a thing in this universe that should make you second guess saving your child.
@@jrex3 If he didn't feel anything he would be a psychopath. No one wants to kill someone in selfdefense. The fact that he is in shock after having to do this doesn't mean in any way, shape or form that he is second-guessing saving his daughter.
He didn't have to kill the kid, he wasn't armed. Open the door and kneecap him or shoot through the lower part of the door, he didn't save anyone's life. Half the neighborhood was out vs some emo kid, I don't think he was gonna murder the daughter w his bare hands while everyone watched lol. Shitty situation for everyone..
@@5milemacc737 you're an idiot. First off you just said he should commit an actual crime. Plus set him up for being liable for hospital bills and whatever else they take. On top of that he didn't know if he was armed. He could have had a knife he could have had a gun he could have had brass knuckles. You are a moron in every sense of the term for what you have said and everyone should feel dumber for having read it.
Ring cameras are a genius idea and will never know how much of a help they are and will be
How exactly would we go about letting them know how loved they are? Parade? (lol.. Sorry, this story is dark)
@@damotheman4196 🤣🤣
@@castortroy6588 Ayyee! Found someone with a sense of humour! 😂 You right though, especially with the edited vid the guys sister put out.. Crazy.
"Dad, you're the best dad ever. You just saved my life"
Yep, he is
That neighbor must be so annoying to live next to. Imagine being such a terrible neighbor that your contribution to the home invasion is almost as stressful as the invader's.
How about the neighbor coming over acting like he runs stuff?...also I love your channel thank you
That neighbor has my blood boiling. And them hanging around telling the cop that guy is dead like it’s no big deal trying to act hard.
@@hotmessjess1849 my favorite part was about the 3rd time he wanred the family that james was no problem he was still walking towards him, the family pleads multiple times that he tried to break in and the neighbor hears none of it. then he sees the door and jumps back like a little girl. then instantly goes back to saying how james isnt a threat.
Seriously lol
Great job dad. You did what needed to be done and saved your daughter and possibly even more people.
You’re the type of person who begs for the chance to shoot somebody in “self-defense”.
The kid wasn’t a danger. Dad didn’t have to kill him, he was a damn kid.
@@miap2122 you’re not very bright, huh?
Can you even imagine a cunt?
@@miap2122 lmao. He should have pumped a few more rounds into him.
It broke my heart when the homeowners daughter said "Dad, your the best dad ever,
you just saved my life" Dad is a hero.
It’s really weird that you stress “homeowner” here. You know women can own property and vote and speak in public now right?
@@DeviceAnathema No, what is really weird is the fact that you assume that when I say homeowner I'm implying the person is male. This has got too be the lamest thing anyone has ever targeted me in the comment section about. Talk about people just looking to start an argument. 🙄
@@DeviceAnathema wow, you seem to be an idiot?
Well it shouldn't have broke your heart, it should have done the opposite.
@@corydinsmore1117 You and that hippie liberal chick that made that comment have got to be the two strangest comments I've ever received. Did they give everyone in the nuthouse access to RUclips? 😂
They called 911 before there were shots fired. The father yelled "I have a gun" and proceeded to push the door in. No-one safe is going to keep banging down a door after hearing there is a gun pointed at him.
If that wasn't an example of the Castle doctrine or self defense idk what is. He was verbally warned to get off their porch and then he started to breech the threshold of the front door, splintering the doorframe with his shoulder. Complete disregard to their multiple warnings to leave and "no James!!". The Dad did textbook what I think anyone protecting their daughter(and family) would have also done. When the cops were interrogating him, he was still so shaken up by what had happened, as they all were. James really did follow them bc he was right behind them once they returned from breakfast. His voice-mail was creepy and him not answering them thru the ring speaker was scary. I don't see how charges could or would have been against Dad. He was protecting his family since some unstable ex was forcefully trying to enter their home uninvited! Without the 'ring' footage i hate thinking where this case could have gone or IF the dad would have faced charges. The nosey neighbor tried to clean it up when the cop arrived saying he acted in self defense when James tried to break down his door. Great video Red Tree Crime!
Did they say that? Did they actually say that? No. He did what any parent would do.
when you watch and hear the FULL ring videos and voicemails, and then compare to what James sister released, its EGREGIOUS. Literally she is deceiving people and lying, its not just that she has a different viewpoint, something is wrong with that family, no cap
No 🧢
Saying no capbis worse than James sister.
@@leinad.s worse than doxxing an innocent family and publishing a doctored video of the incident?
She's also claiming to have secret messages of the daughter beckoning James in that she won't ever show. That poor family already went through enough without the garbage the sister is putting them through now.
@@letoofdelos565 lol exactly. She wont show them because they do not exist
This case is sad. But I DON’T understand why it’s polarizing. If you watch UNEDITED video, and have a basic backstory, there is nothing ambiguous about it.
This poor family was traumatized already, and they didn’t ask for ANY of this, including him turning up in the first place.
Having someone who is behaving VERY STRANGE and non responsive ignore you and then smash your door, it’s TERRIFYING.. and NOBODY can try to second guess how they handled it now that it over. They had NO idea if he was armed, high or psychotic and had NO idea what he was going to do if he got inside.
It’s too bad that James made these choices and we will never find out WHY. And I feel for his family, loss is hard..
HOWEVER..
They are completely out of line harassing this family. His sister is literally deluded about the FACTS. And she is FAKING video that she’s spreading around.. if you have to EDIT footage to meet your narrative? You’re WRONG..
Loss sucks, I’m sure the family is having a hard time with his loss. But they need grief counseling to get through this, attacking the victims AGAIN.. it’s a bad look, it doesn’t help James memory and it’s not going to bring him back.
She needs to get off of Facebook or whatever and get some help…
Not every death requires “justice” .. sometimes we don’t get any answers and even though it sucks, and it hurts.. you HAVE to let it go.. and focus on making their memory a positive thing..
What she’s doing, is not healthy, it’s factually wrong and it’s not fair, to anyone.
Complete speculation, but I think she must feel responsible in some way and this is her undoing that, or trying to. Maybe she told him it was a good idea to go over, maybe she told him he should try and talk to her at all, idk but she really is taking it so far.
It should be illegal. Bet if the victimised family sued she'd change her tune
@@sammycinnamon7300 I think the Duckro's are letting the facts speak for themselves. Unfortunately, suing the sister is a good way to provoke one of Rayl's other family members into seeks vigilante "justice".
Interogation with the girl is also very good, she clearly explains what happened, seems cool and collected.
The goal is to demoralize gun owners.
How the hell did they even attempt to indict the father! Can you imagine if they didn't have that Ring footage. SMH
Moved into a new property
My neighbour became obsessed with
Tried to get into my flat via workmen
I was offered a doorcam from my landlord is a god send
The put his face up against my camera in a threatening way
After being question
The police gave him a verbal harresment order
He does try it on
I have to be very careful
With how the world is now a days he made the right decision. It's sad a young man lost his life but you cannot break into someone's house and expect anything less.
How is fatally shooting a young man 3 times the right decision? No warning fire, no shot to the leg or shoulder. 3 fatal gun wounds because of a perceived threat. How selfish is that?
100%. It’s sad that this dude clearly was suffering from something and didn’t get the help he needed before it was too late. The dad unfortunately did what he had to do in this case.
Just admit you wake up literally everyday looking for a reason to do something like this.
@@wyattnoise I'd hope to never be in a situation like this. I'd also not just stand there and let my door get broken down and then have the dude walk on in. Out of curiosity what do you think the good outcome of this door breaking scenario would be?
not in texas you cant/
I have no doubt it was either him or that girl, maybe not that day but one day. We’ve seen these stories of exes trying talk and ending up murdering someone over and over.
You watch way too much true crime if the number of murder endings outnumber the amount of normal interactions.
That neighbour must have seen some shit to be that chill about everything he came upon at the start. "He ain't going anywhere".
According to that one guy, you have no right to self-defense unless the other guy has a gun.
I applaud this father's heroic action. He did right by not allowing someone to get hurt before he did something I would have done the exact same thing for my daughter 💪🏾🥃
yup!.....
Agreed!!
100%
Heroic? The guy made had no effect on the door after how many goes? looked like the dad was weighing up which was the greater waste of money, his landline or his handgun, figured he hadn't used his gun enough, and now chose to shoot rather than call 911🤷♂️
@@2lefThumbs you let the guy who just shoulder checked your door and is unresponsive to your commands into your house and someone else will be calling 911 when they find your body
In a seriousness tho, the Father had to have felt like world best dad!! Can you imagine that the one time his daughter really needed him, he was there AND was able literally save his family’s life!
I’m happy that her parents were there and that we she open enough to let them know about the situation so they can be aware of him!
Absolutely, I agree. I applaud that father, he did the right thing by defending his family and his property. If that case wasn't tossed out and he was charged with a crime, that would have been such a miscarriage of justice. God bless that father! 🇺🇸❤️
I am so proud of the dad.
Things could have been so much worse.. Imagine if the girl was home alone or the dad wasnt there.
This could have been a really sad documentary.
Im thankful for the way it turned out.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
@@jamesduncan6729 absolutely NOBODY would’ve tolerate the father being charged. I feel like that would’ve started somethin lol and that type of injustice definitely would’ve went a message
@@cosmicbilly same here! Thank Gid for fathers!!🙏🙏 when she literally told him he saved her life, I teared up! Wasn’t nothing the law was gone say that was gonna undo that
I doubt it just because we know that other justified shooters who save lives like police often end up with PTSD. Killing someone stays with you. He'll have nightmares about this for the rest of his life. Not all good things are proud things.
Clearest cut self defense case I've ever seen. It appears he saved his daughters life
I can't believe they actually tried to indict the dad for protecting his family.
It doesn't surprise me at all. Victim blaming at its finest. So ridiculous!!
Yeah that's what police and investigators seem to do more often than not. They always want to prosecute somebody.
Never talk to the cops without a lawyer. Especially in an incident such as this.
The father was borderline getting himself in trouble by just saying ‘I got nervous’ instead of saying ‘I feared for my life’ as a lawyer would’ve couched him. Getting nervous doesn’t reach the threshold for legally using deadly force.
Also if the police department was looking for a conviction (they weren’t) they could’ve baited him into continuing to use that language ‘I was nervous’ to justify the shooting knowing nervousness is not a legally justifiable defense for shooting. ‘We understand, because you were nervous right?’
I do think think this is a good example of why guns should be banned… just a sad desperate ex bf. No need for the guy to die over something like this.
@@Audioremedy0785 And how many criminals do you think are going to give up their guns? Do you think the cops will give up theirs as well...or do you think it will just be law abiding citizens?
And how do you know that if there was no weapon to defend that family, he wouldn't have stabbed her or beat the parents with a hammer?
@@toxicgerl so what your effectively saying is ‘the problem is completely out of hand so let’s just ignore the problem’. If you think that it’s acceptable that some stupid love struck kid is getting shot then fair enough. And to be clear, I’m not hating on the dad in this instance for using it. Given the circumstance, his use was understandable and as justifiable as it can possibly be. However arm one person and give them the knowledge that the other person could feasibly be armed and it creates wildly escalated situations like this. Gun distribution in America just simply has to stop. It’s utter madness.
Good job to the father. I'm sorry you and your family had to endure this.
he deserves life in prision hes a killer
Nice sentiment, but likely, they'll never read your comment. Why would they? This isn't their site.
@@GJones462-2W1 what’s your point…
@@GJones462-2W1 they might see it. You saw it...
Ya it's weird when people address RUclips comment sections just to try and show how 'caring' they are. Creepy too
The voicemail gives me absolute chills- nothing specific being discussed just strange ramblings. I dealt with a stalker who was an ex of mine from 2011-2015. I filed five order of protections like clockwork every year. He would find ways to get in contact with people I had class with- text them and asked for me. He sent me disturbing emails and would tell me I'm "pretty" and then immediately followed up with I'm going to gut you like a pig. I won't describe the other terrible things he would tell me.
No child should have to experience that situation. This family did what they had to do. There is no doubt in mind that had Alison been alone he would have done something awful to her.
So weird how you can just become obsessed with another human being
I am glad for you its over now
No you didn’t.
Fantasy is dangerous
I knew what it was as soon as i heard that the guy left s creepy voicemail first. I remember when this happened because it was just so horrific. I can't imagine having to shoot someone like this. The father tried so hard to tell him not to come in and he waited so long to shoot him. He didn't want to shoot. So many people today are trigger happy but this father was trying to avoid it.
I saw this on TT but without the voicemail and some other details. Dad was 100% in the right this whole ordeal was beyond creepy. If a girl doesn’t return your call don’t show up at her house and try to force your way in. Common sense.
The Father did exactly what he had to do to protect his family. Case closed
If the shooter was black or latin he would be rotting in jail. What are you defending?
@@xferaaaa I live in Florida which is also a stand your ground state. I’m black and my husband is Cuban. Best believe if someone is breaking into our home, we are shooting 1st and asking questions later. Castle doctrine. Everyone has a right to protect themselves. Especially in your own home
@@xferaaaa
So what should he have done?
Just let the weirdo enter his house and see how it plays out?
What planet are you on?
@@gzz8551 … wow, what planet is right. Someone can watch the Ring Camera evidence and still ask What Are You Defending?
@@xferaaaa brah. A lot of black people have legally defended themselves with a gun and are not in jail. Stop assuming everyone is a racist. It’s pathetic.
Imagine if the dad who had a gun, DIDN'T shoot and then the ex bf breaks in and killed his daughter?
Like what do you expect when you are literally breaking into your ex's house after not seeing nor talking to them for YEARS. He definitely did not have good intentions, judging by the way he was acting. You cant force someone to interact with you, thats not how love works.
Plus there’s a high probability he would repeat that behavior
Who are you arguing with? Yourself?
Had dad not taken care of the situation then, the kid would’ve stalked her, & done something unspeakable.
Congrats to the daughter who had the judgement and fortitude to bounce this freak from her life; this family did women everywhere a huge service.
I remember seeing this is the news recently. Hero dad. Listening to the girl cry to her father saying "you saved me dad" is heartbreaking. Dad is justified times 1000 and is clearly an amazing man. Good for him for protecting his family.
Edit: I truly hope the family gets the proper counseling they need to get over this or to help cope with this. The young man did this to himself. It is not ANY of their faults.
Disagree
@@GFTCNJ lol. Why is that little buddy
@@GFTCNJ the guy was literally not mentally there and 2 years of no cantact them randomly he shows up at the house and tries to break in. How was this not justified especially after the multiple warnings. Fuck outta here.
@@GFTCNJ how do you figure? 100% justified shooting, case closed!
@@zachary9706 Dad has fists
Haven't started the video but I've been following this case for awhile, and the demonization of this family when they acted in self defense by the main stream family and James' is disgusting! I know the latter is grieving, however trying to turn this case into a media circus isn't the right thing to do!
Well Said 💯!
Unfortunately... humans are the circus.
@@toxicgerl humans are greedy...and provide circus for more money from the eyes that can't pull away from said circus.
They should post the Ring footage and everyone can see what actually happened. I guess they’d just sit there and be killed.
You can't shoot someone through your door🤷♂️
James wasn’t provoked wtf 🤬 he insane trying to hurt her if he got ahold of her
WE KNOW. OH MY GOD.
The dad tried his best to reason with him and not escalate it. "I have a gun!" but he was dead set on getting to the daughter to do what who knows. Obviously the dad was left without a choice.
I couldn’t hear that and it wasn’t in the subtitles so thank you for saying that. I still can’t hear it but that’s the point of hearing impairment. Seems like Ring needs to really step up the audio quality however.
You are saying you heard that multiple times and such yourself right? I’m not talking about recall, I mean the actual video.
Could have fired a warning shot. Or shot him in the leg.
Nope, three shots in the chest.
Kid was unarmed, and looked like a p*ssy, too. Yeah, stand your ground.... but there was no need to go nuclear with it.
Weak men are scary . You can hear his voice is sad and not in power. It’s weak. Be aware of weak men. Same with overly aggressive men on the same note.
Excellent point. They have nothing to lose, no personal accountability. I'm glad he's gone.
Jeeez, your repetition of Tates gormless dribble is painful to read.....🤣😂🤣
Absolutely, weak men always feel like they have something to prove
@Cock Sure emojis, language of the idiot.
That neighbor pissed me off