This video has a crazy ending. Make sure to press CC for subtitles. This video was made almost a year ago so I apologize if the audio is a little rough at the beginning. I was still learning how to fix interrogation audio. More videos coming this week!
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22 years for a manslaughter yet some only get 15 years or under for a brutal rape and murder and still get paroled way much earlier. Not saying he shouldn't pay for the consequences of his actions but the disparity of these court verdicts is baffling.
The judgical community doesn't give a shit about rape and molestation, in fact just tacking on a rape lessons the murder charge. how fucked up is that.. murderers bad but a rapist/murderer is okay after a short while so society can forget what happened. Give the family immunity, potato peelers and salt. The only good rapist is a dead one.
Well he has done it once, what's to say he won't do it again. Regardless of whether he was being bullied or not, to stab someone 13 times is pretty f****d up and only a deranged lunatic is capable of doing something like that.
My father was a Baltimore City police officer for 27 years and he said absolutely do not talk even if you are innocent.Cops don't talk if they are questioned they are taught to ask for their PBA and shut up so if it's good enough for them its good enough for me.
I asked a cop about lying to suspects. He said we absolutely can and will lie our asses off to a suspect. This is why you say nothing after your rights are read to you.
He was released on parole last month after serving 10 years. That included a little less than 9 years in prison and the 399 days he served in jail from the day of his arrest to when he was sentenced.
That seems a lot more logical. 5 years prison and a 10+ year ban on him to carry any weapons, would be enough. 13 times was because of the 13 drinks he may had.
Right. They’re basically telling you, “don’t talk to us.” It’s counterintuitive because people naturally believe they can help themselves by taking their way out of it. And asking for a lawyer immediately makes you look guilty.
more important would be to be a man and just fight without “poking.”. This guy, from my closed carry literature as a reference, incited it. Looking at this video as a way to avoid punishment is probably the most diseased perspective.
What really makes them look guilty is everything the lawyers use against them that they say to the cops. It’s doesn’t make you look guilty for asking for a lawyer, it makes you look smart. Remember these three steps when talking with cops, firstly ask for a lawyer before saying anything else, B, tell them you want a lawyer thirdly and lastest, ASK FOR A LAWYER! If you follow those three steps you will look smartly.
Yesterday I saw a comment saying “then you have a target on your back.” I’d rather have a lawyer with a target on my back than no lawyer and still have a target on my back.
@@tompilkington7379 Those are 3 important tips .. one example I think ab is the rich villain or mob boss in movies have their lawyer on the payroll handle talking with the police or detectives because thats what they went to school for that’s their job to do what’s in the best interest in your case and not allow self incrimination.. it’s the same for real life a smart criminal will let his lawyer handle everything the police are not your friend and aren’t there to help you other than helping you into jail or prison ..
Being a former cop, I installed a clock with a loud tick just to ratchet up the tension. Just sitting there by myself the ticking of the clock was unnerving
Kid did seem remorseful but 13 times is tough to overlook. Just remember all you young guys, nothing good happens at a bar after midnight. Both lives ruined over a stupid insult and bar fight.
No doubt you’re correct. He did remember using knife “more than once”. He either knew it was a lot more and didn’t want to say or just blind drunk and it’s all a blur.
Yet if a cop fires their pistol into their attacker 13 times or more, it's perfectly justified. His life is equally valuable as any cop so he should be given the same consideration as any cop that defended themselves by firing multiple rounds into an attacker.
This cop is great in getting information and even sounding like he was a friend or something at the end by saying he was ‘welcome to speak to him at any time’ which could also be termed ‘if you want to admit anything else please do’.
I also feel that the detective respected the suspect’s remorse and wanted to be a witness to and acknowledge that he was going through a very difficult range of emotions. I truly think the detective wanted to be there for his grief, regret, shock, remorse, and self-loathing.
@@MichaelIhde69Don’t be naive. The police are not there to be a shoulder to cry on. They want to close cases with convictions and he is manipulating the suspect’s heightened emotional state to extract more evidence for that conviction.
Someone (the actual murderer) tried to place me in an area where someone I knew was murdered. It happened months into the investigation after the first two people he claimed to have committed the crime kept coming up clean. I was contacted by the police and showed up with a lawyer the next day. We walked in, the lawyer talked to the detective for a couple minutes and we walked back out. They never contacted me again once they found out I had a clear alibi and a lawyer. It took them almost 3 years to finally charge the murderer.
I'm 50 and never once, I was in a fight. Even in the years in which I was frequenting pretty tough clubs I laid a finger on anyone and vice versa. Some call me a chicken, I believe that avoiding useless, stupid and dangerous confrontation is way better.
Hell yeah. Whenever I was in a club and accidentally bumped into anyone I quickly apologized because that’s the sort of stupid thing that people fight over. I’ve been in one brawl after the club let out and that was only helping my friends who had already started fighting.
Wow. This is the first time I’ve ever washed an interrogation, and actually felt bad for the murderer. It seemed like genuine remorse for what he had done.
@RosieClipBot - perhaps that’s why so many young women get duped by manipulative narcissists who end up abusing them. Don’t be naive, the guy knew what he was doing.
Felt bad...? He stabbed him 13-14 times... pretend stab your pillow 13 times. I don't feel bad for this coward using a knife in a fist fight what soever. I think he should do life. I've been in fist fights where knives were pulled, even tried using it on me once, every time someone pulled out a knife it was the biggest dirtbag lowlife.. This kid looked like one as well, and did a good job pretending to be confused, and acting innocent. I don't buy it one bit. Didn't feel like genuine remorse to me, felt like regret he's going to jail for a long time. He didn't call police, pretended his phone died, left the scene, and didn't remember stabbing him over a dozen times? Give me a break. Hope he gets stabbed in his rear every day in prison.
The police telling you they know everything is like them standing outside your door saying the have a key but won’t use it because they’re vampires or something 😂
What they say: "We already know everything but we need to hear it from you so we can help you." What they mean: "We don't know enough to charge you otherwise we would have done it already, we don't need you to tell us anything if we have evidence. We need you to tell us so we can arrest you"
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Dude. Kind of off topic, but the fact that you know the difference between your and you’re is not a common thing. It’s one of my pet peeves, so I always notice it. The fact that you use both words in your comment and use them correctly is amazing. I haven’t seen that in a loooong time. Btw i am not being sarcastic
@@pcpalan *OMG I'm the same way! lol* I'm known online as the "Grammar Nazi" 😂🤣 Oh well, I've been called worse. I went to a REALLY strict Roman Catholic shool in Philly & grammar was like top of the list of things we were literally drilled on for years, ugh, I hated it...But now, throughout my adult life, I'm glad I was taught that way. Sometimes it can be a curse tho - like you said you see it right away in someone's typing. ME TOOOO & sometimes I wish I cld just turn it off but I can't. It is what it is.
Idk who your talking to maybe your talking to ppl that have no clue how to right? He is amazed isn’t he? I kinda like you’re vibe thou. Perfectly like done tho write? He knew what he were doing he NEW that could of hurted him but he did it any way thou!
"Self defense" = fleeing the scene, making up false details about other people attacking him, stabbing him 13 TIMES "I don't know why the cab driver wouldn't take me" probably because you were covered in blood from murdering a person over an insult
Technically law enforcement only has to inform you of your rights when you're at the station. The "Miranda Warning", and the rights it includes, are custody based. If you are at home or at a family member/friend's house, (or somewhere public, ie- a diner or coffee shop, ect.) LEOs aren't required to mirandize you before questioning. They can ask whatever they want and it can be used against you in court. Most people are unaware that the "Miranda Warning(s)" are strictly custody based. Hopefully this information is useful to someone out there.
It can be dicey for the cops, though, which is why they avoid it. For e.g. if a uniformed cop says, "Step over here, I just want to ask you some questions" Is that an order? Are you detained? When a guy with a uni, badge, and gun says "step over here" it's, at best, ambiguous and lawyers do successfully persuade courts that that's a de facto detainment and formal questioning, not a consentual conversation.
Was he remorseful for the kid he stabbed in a drunken rage 13 or 14 times, or is he remorseful for himself that he just learned that he would be facing murder charges?
It's funny because while these videos are most of the time well intentioned, cops must hate them. Imagine how many people wised up and made their jobs harder because of them!
I’m so ready to be questioned for a crime, I’ve watched so many of these interrogations, I’m ready! However I lead a very boring life and feel guilty when I do the tiniest things, so no chance of being interrogated any time soon. 😂
Yeah, you not ready... It's easy for someone to think they know it all after watching a bunch of RUclips videos... But it's much different when that person is actually in the hot seat themselves 😱 Police interrogations can be very intimidating. And I'm not saying that I'd do any better either 🤷♂️
I’ve always been with buddies. If someone suggested we were gay? Lol, I’d literally lol. Then I’d come on to the person calling us gay. Be like, we’re always looking for a third big boy. Lol
The fact the he showed such remorse really breaks my heart for this young man. I’m sure I’m not the only one that has done stupid things when I was young and intoxicated, alcohol can really mess with your judgement. Knowing all it takes is just one really bad fuk up and I could have landed in similar circumstances, and that’s so scary. 😢
No you're definitely the only one who has done stupid things when young and intoxicated. I mean who in their right developing young mind gets extremely inebriated amd makes bad decisions. Not me, no siree. Only righteous and moral behavior for me when im wasted.
Fuck him. Stupid cunt brought a fucking knife to a bar with him and ended another man's life. He wasn't remorseful, he was upset that he was now looking at murder charges instead of assault charges
I don't know if at any point his life was in any actual danger. I do know that alcohol often causes people to make stupid, irreversible mistakes. Being young amplifies that, and being a young male even more so. He appeared genuinely remorseful and I can only imagine what's going through his head. This interrogation ought to be shown in high schools so that young people can see how easily a stupid insult can end two lives-the one who made the insult and the one who "couldn't" let the insult pass.
If someone had been beating a cop the same way they were beating this dude, the cop would just shoot them and never even question if it was justified. He would be rewarded with a week paid vacation instead of being sent to prison.
It takes one bad hit to kill someone, they fall and smash their head and then it’s over. Looking at his face and considering the guy was still attacking him I think he was correct to be concerned. But stabbing someone 13 times is just inexcusable.
Yep - the frontal lobe (decision making) is in flux and not fully developed until 25 years… add in adrenaline, alcohol, testosterone and a knife- it’s a recipe for disaster😢
Yeah sure was heart-wrenching for the family of his victim that he stood over and stabbed over and over and over 13 times!!! Take your arm and jab it forward 13 times and see how long it takes to do that even as fast as you can it still takes like what seems like forever. What happened is this kid got embarrassed in front of his little girlfriend, the other kid got the best of him and instead of taking it like a man and dealing with it he makes the bright decision to pull out his knife and stab a guy 13 times. And secondly, in most states it's illegal to carry a knife in a bar, plus just carrying a knife in a bar is looking for trouble. And then to top it as if just to confirm to us all his stupidity he sits in the Police department and has the audacity to ask the detective "is he okay"?, Uhm no bruh, he's not okay you literally stabbed him 13 TIMES dude wtf ?!!
@@TheLastSpartan04 most definitely a bitch , and an idiot for pulling the knife and stabbing when he could've walked away, but noooo, look at dumbass now, going to be someone's girlfriend for the next 25 yrs in prison.
What? 22 years for a case of self defense? This is not OK! I believe the boy when he said he feared for his life! And he was in clear and deep shock when he heard the other guy had died. What a tragedy for all sides. Very sad.
The problem with self defense is it hard to say self defense if he’s saying he dosent remember or everything was blurry or he’s confused about anything they are gonna say how can he be defending him self if he don’t remember or dosent know when or what happened. And also stabbing the guy in the back may indicate that the fight was over or the other could have been walking away which means he’s no longer a threat a lot of people confuse getting beat up with life threatening and after it’s done he’s no longer a threat
Stabbing someone 13x goes above self-defense. Not saying it is ok to poke someone, but if it was 2 or 3 hits with the knife, people are more likely to believe it was self defense. When u hit #13, it is hard to believe your life was still in danger.
@@jerameyblomquist326 I totally understand what you’re saying but I also think stress and anxiety of such traumatic situations can cause forgetfulness. We have forgetfulness on a regular basis due to lack of sleep.
@@mattymaple1976 This is why credible self defense instructors ALMOST NEVER recommend knives for self defense. You are setting yourself up for a hard road to prove your innocence. Yes prove your innocence! It often takes many more wounds than most people realize to neutralize a threat intent on remaining a threat to you. I've seen people stabbed multiples times who actually remained alert in the Emergency room after a knife attack. Without seeing their wounds and their blood soaked clothing, you wouldn't even realize anything was wrong with them. They are just sitting there like a lump. On top of that, violence with a knife generally invokes images of intimate bloody brutality in the minds of most people, regardless of whether that is indeed true or just an inherent bias.
My school teacher always told us if you ever speak with law enforcement say you want a lawyer your parents (we were kids in school) and remain silent period.
I was detained and questioned by a police department, in Alabama, and I wasn’t read my rights. Not only that, once I realized they were accusing me of a crime, I shut up, and was told they weren’t required to read them to me. I was blocked in by 3 police cars, forced out of my vehicle, had my vehicle, and person, searched, and I was clearly not free to leave. I ended up being arrested, booked, and charged with 2 crimes (1 was a lie and they knew it, and the other was added on bc they were embarrassed that they didn’t find what they were accusing me of). At no time, did they ever read me my rights. I was terrified, alone, and bullied/tricked into “just paying some fines and putting it behind me”. Now, I have that on my record. I tried to stand up for myself but I was way overpowered. I would definitely handle it differently if it happened again.
It happened to me as well, I was only 17 (which was considered a legal adult in Massachusetts at the time). Luckily I had had a conversation with my father a few months before about it speaking to the police and always asking for an attorney. I was the only person out of four that requested an attorney, I was also the only person that walked away from it with a clean record.
Im from AL, from my understanding, when I got arrested a few months ago (missed traffic court and forgot all about it all till I was pulled over for speeding) they aren’t required to read you the rights anymore. Very interesting. Hate that happened to you though.
It’s extremely rare for a perpetrator to care for the family first before himself when given the opportunity to ask a final question before going to jail.
Yea wtf. I know its his job, but he didnt have to be so manipulative like that. He should of told him the truth from the beginning about the guy dieing, and guide him towards a lawyer. If your a detective and can tell its self defense, then why manipulate to go against the victims side? I think the detectives should only use that manipulating tactic in crimes where its not self defense. like if its a suspected serial killer then yeah sure manipulate a little if you know its them, but if its self defense cases like this. Then they should be less manipulative and more into guiding the victim (self defender) towards what they need to be doing to get through the justice system. Basically my point is, the detectives should take into consideration the type of crime when they interrogate, and treat the interrogations accordingly and not treat each situation the exact same.
You have no obligation to speak to the police. None! Everything you say will be used against you in court. Even with a lawyer present You do not have to say 1 word. Say nothing more than I do not answer questions.
My old friend used to always say, nothing good happens after midnight. -- Really just a reminder that a night home with family and a movie is better than any drunken night with complications.
If his story is true and I was on the jury that would be 100% self defense. He was being kicked punched in the face over and over again. What was he supposed to do ask him if he’s done beating the daylights out of him before he pulls his knife. Self defense it would have been a hung jury.
Police: "if you just talk to me, I can help you, okay?" John Clark: "Okay I'll start at the molars and work my way forward, you tell me when it hurts so badly that you want to talk."
I'm very pro-law enforcement. But when they read you your rights you don't say ANYTHING further. Be polite, keep your yap shut. They're trained to trip you up. It's their duty. Deny them.
They should find a way to find the truth not to "trip you up". Does they gain some pleasure in putting in prison innocent people (no correlation to the vid)
To me, his remorse is canceled out by him not calling the police to help the guy he's supposedly "remorseful" about, and also it's canceled out by THIRTEEN STAB WOUNDS
@@bmo5082 Terrible comparison. Do you even remember that case? The only similarity between that case and this one is that a knife was the murder weapon.
@@basbleupeaunoire No it is the right comparison. O J Simpson got away with murder and I believe it was that comparison the poster was making because Simpson is black!
No, then we won't get new interrogation videos. I like the Canadian system where a suspect allowed to stay silent, but cops can still talk to you for a while. It works sometimes (for the cops), like the Michael Rafferty interrogation.
If he had called the cops right away and said he stabbed him 13 times because the guy was beating on him and the first 12 stabs didn't stop him, then he'd be a free man right now.
@@trevthegamedev it is. My understanding of manslaughter is it's gross negligence or essentially an accident that theres still fault for, like drunk driving and hitting someone. I think the difference is that there's no intent to kill
Damn, that was a raw, genuine reaction when he learned he had died. You can tell he is overwhelmed with both guilt and regret. I feel bad for him. Granted he did stab him but it sounds like the circumstances was very murky
@@holdencawffle626 You're correct. I cannot justify his actions or explain them. To me it sounded like he was drunk and didn't even realize. Again, not an excuse. But that reaction was not faked and was not acting
@@holdencawffle626 Drunk, adrenaline rush, anger from taking some blows, not knowing if more were going to jump in against him in the fight, and a bruised ego from the previous and present disrespect when they argued.
He's crying for himself because he knows the ramifications of the guy dying because of stab wounds he inflicted. If you stab someone say 5 times they're going to back off and try to get away from you so they dont get stabbed again. To stab the 8 more times after that is pretty damn hard to justify in any way.
@@nomudnolotus4410 he could be crying for himself but it seems like he accepted the consequences immediately (detective told him he’s going to jail and he said okay and didn’t question why or try to weasel his way out) and even showed remorse to the victim’s family.
Plenty of crimes have been solved without witnesses or a confession - they are solved with evidence and although witnesses are helpful and a confession even more so, they are rarely essential. Especially now with CCTV everywhere, vehicle tracking (numberplate recognition), cellphone tracking, electronic communications records, DNA etc...
Judge Richard Bevan sentenced Lish to 22 years, but said he could be eligible for parole after serving at least 10 years. That was in 2013, cayde will be eligible for parole this year.
Alcohol + ego/toxicity = ruined lives. The biggest killer of young men is other young men. So sad and senseless and the pain will ripple out far and wide. I genuinely believe the young man’s remorse. It’s time alcohol was treated like the killer it is.
I hope people learned their lesson by watching this video. If you're ever in a situation where you're being interrogated about an event that happened when you were drunk, or when you thought you needed to defend yourself, shut the f*ck up and get an attorney. It's a very sad, very tragic situation.
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Tremendous video.... 1st time I have seen anyone with sincere remorse and horrific feelings about what he did. He really seemed to be truthful from the beginning . Alcohol was a huge factor in this case. It's a Tragedy for the Victims Family and the young fellow who is going to prison for many years and I strongly believe he had NO memory of what happened. The Detective did a AWESOME JOB with regards to his role too. It's too bad the majority of Cops and Detectives don't Perform Professionally, in Murder Cases as this gentleman. On good behavior he will be out in """ FIVE """ years and he can be a productive citizen. RIP young fellow. May God help his parents through this terrible loss. Thks 4 sharing Cheers
You are only read your Miranda Rights if you are in CUSTODY. So, if you are being read your Miranda Rights, you are in fact in custody and being charged with something. Police officers are not required to read a person their Miranda Rights if you are not in custody. So the beginning info was slightly off. I just graduated from law school and studying for the bar so felt compelled to correct you a little :)
Why is it that police are trained to shoot until the threat is neutralized(empty their clips), but an untrained civilian is supposed to know when to draw the line while they’re getting beaten to death by multiple attackers?
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Damn! I literally felt being in his shoes when the cop told him the guy died.. I felt being him with every labored breath he took. I felt it because in my teenage and early 20s, any one of those nights I went out could have ended like this. My god if I got anything from this was sadness but also deep gratitude for not going through this myself and we all gotta count our blessings
Never would I believe I'd watch an interrogation of a murderer and actually feel bad for them but I do. I believe he's genuinely remorseful. The fact that his only request was to relay to the man's family how sorry he is says a lot.
This is a quasi self defense situation. If he was really getting the crap beat out of him, it’s justified to use deadly force. Cops can unload 10 shots into an aggressor, I don’t see how this is worse.
I’m not sure why he didn’t call the police, but you can see he’s honest and his reaction to finding out he killed him, is genuine. Horrible situation and I feel for him. Tragic that the guy died, it really is; but he wasn’t blameless for creating a bad situation. No reason to be killed; but I don’t think that was ever the plan. Another interesting thing to note, when Cayde was 18 he was arrested again due to alcohol and weapons. I hope Cayde gets help with alcohol abuse and his temper. I don’t think he’s a bad guy at all, and his remorse is genuine. He needs help.
at 3:38 when the suspect asks, "is this guy ok?" the cop breaks eye contact. this is sometimes a clue the person (in this case, the cop) is uncomfortable with the question.
Staying out of drinking establishments is a good rule to live by. Saloons, pubs, bars, watering holes,taverns, drunken events, are all places to avoid.
They don’t have to read you your rights just because they are asking questions about a potential crime. There are two elements that have to be present: 1) Questioning; 2) You must be in their custody. The rights apply to custodial questioning. IMPORTANT ADVICE: If you find yourself being questioned by law enforcement AND they read you your rights - STOP TALKING! PERIOD! Ask for an attorney, period, end of story.
*FIRST & FOREMOST - NEVER, EVER TALK TO THE LAW WITHOUT A LAWYER!!* Sad and I do believe he showed genuine remorse but at the same time, we all have to take responsibility for what we do - even while under the influence. A life was taken and that family will never recover from that. Accountability is what ppl are looking for. Sad case 😞 ~Peace✌🏽
Can you help me understand what difference a lawyer would have made here? My understanding is that the lawyer’s argument would be the exact same as he said in the interrogation: “Yes, Cayde stabbed him, but it was self defense”
He didn't deny accountability, when told he was going to jail he accepted it in like 2 seconds and was compliant as the interrogator wrapped everything up. He also served his time and got parole so there's that going for him. We do need to remember that when intoxicated your brain is impaired. One stab might as well have been 50 for all he knew. His only thought was "hey I'm being hurt and can't tell how many are here, I'm going to start stabbing my attackers to make them stop". 13 is alot yes but when his mind is made up that multiple people are hitting him, that number realistically makes sense when you believe 100% you are going after multiple and not just one.
I honestly think this kid was worried and scared for his life.I feel bad for the other kids family but you go around doing what I call "toughing"the worst could happen and hopefully a couple of people learn from this case.
Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. If your fist don’t work, then just take the L. Never in my youth did I think pulling out a deadly weapon was the solution. I never even purchased a gun until my 30s for the fear of doing something stupid. Such a senseless crime over nothing.
Had he NOT gone into that interrogation room and had he NOT self-snitched, he may still be free. NEVER talk to cops without a lawyer! Ever. Whether you are guilty or innocent. I watch a lot of these videos and most of the time cops have very little to charge a person with UNTIL they self-snitch. Fools. This is why you need to know your rights. Videos like these educate the public. I am thankful for people like (you) who posts these vids.
@@kalia7190 NEVER. and I mean NEVER step into an interrogation room without a lawyer present. Let the lawyer be your mouthpiece. Cops are there to arrest and convict. They are not hired to "serve and protect."
“ How’s the guy doing? COP: “I haven’t heard the latest” The guy is dead, the cop knows he’s dead but let’s him keep talking. That’s the latest. It can’t get any later than the guy being dead! ALWAYS get an attorney!
I feel like nobody is taking into account how fast you actually would stab somebody if you are getting beat up, go grab a pocket knife, and a box, hold the knife with the blad facing you, and stab the box 13 times as fast you can. It shouldn’t take longer than 2-3 seconds.
This video has a crazy ending. Make sure to press CC for subtitles. This video was made almost a year ago so I apologize if the audio is a little rough at the beginning. I was still learning how to fix interrogation audio. More videos coming this week!
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Thank you!
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22 years for a manslaughter yet some only get 15 years or under for a brutal rape and murder and still get paroled way much earlier. Not saying he shouldn't pay for the consequences of his actions but the disparity of these court verdicts is baffling.
Every state is different every case is different
Yeah I agree 22 years for manslaughter is steep
Not really. Different people, circumstances, backgrounds, jury's, judges, and lawyers. It'd be weird if they were all the same.
The judgical community doesn't give a shit about rape and molestation, in fact just tacking on a rape lessons the murder charge. how fucked up is that.. murderers bad but a rapist/murderer is okay after a short while so society can forget what happened.
Give the family immunity, potato peelers and salt. The only good rapist is a dead one.
Well he has done it once, what's to say he won't do it again. Regardless of whether he was being bullied or not, to stab someone 13 times is pretty f****d up and only a deranged lunatic is capable of doing something like that.
Imagine getting in a bar fight, stabbing someone multiple times, then talking to the police without a lawyer…. I’m speechless
They certainly don’t catch the smart ones!
And because of them, my Friday nights aren't boring 😂
but he was in a self defense situation! He must have learned from Sam Hyde..
@@Tempy90 what did Sam Hyde do
Arrogance does not help him.
My father was a Baltimore City police officer for 27 years and he said absolutely do not talk even if you are innocent.Cops don't talk if they are questioned they are taught to ask for their PBA and shut up so if it's good enough for them its good enough for me.
Apologies for my ignorance. What’s PBA?
@@bullast2046 it's there police "union" attorneys.
@@bullast2046 Police Benevolent Association. Basically it's their union rep.
ITS ALMOST LIKE HE WANTS MURDERERS TO GET AWAY WITH IT
Ok, what happens, when one of my family members disappear, and the clock is ticking to find them? No time to get a lawyer.
Never, never, never talk to any law enforcement without a lawyer. They are allowed to lie to you but you can't lie to them.
You are allowed to lie , but it won’t look good
Unless you actually did the crime lol. If you innocent definitely Laywer up
I asked a cop about lying to suspects. He said we absolutely can and will lie our asses off to a suspect. This is why you say nothing after your rights are read to you.
Even if you've done nothing wrong. They are not your friends.
@@Ironhart lawyer up everytime.
One person lost their life, another’s was ruined. All over words. They didn’t even know each other. Sad. Just walk away, it’s not worth it.
Drink / drugs bravado. ..job done...
INDEED. AND the whole thing probably lasted all of..... 2 maybe 3 minutes?
You gotta keep em separated
Words and ALCOHOL.
@@Regular_1094 But you have to admit…he’s pretty fly, for a white guy… 😂
He was released on parole last month after serving 10 years. That included a little less than 9 years in prison and the 399 days he served in jail from the day of his arrest to when he was sentenced.
That seems a lot more logical. 5 years prison and a 10+ year ban on him to carry any weapons, would be enough. 13 times was because of the 13 drinks he may had.
@@constantinosschinas4503🤡
@matthewanthony4606 If someone is getting attacked, they should have right to stab away.
@@Mandy-nt2csikr
@@matthewanthony4606you’re the only clown here. Not every situation is the same
“anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you.”
Nothing you say will be used FOR you.
Unless you have a good lawyer 😉
I feel like no one actually thinks about this one because it makes it clear that you shouldn't say anything.
@@moxxy3565 Not even. Nothing you tell police can be used for you. That's hearsay, inadmissable.
Right. They’re basically telling you, “don’t talk to us.” It’s counterintuitive because people naturally believe they can help themselves by taking their way out of it. And asking for a lawyer immediately makes you look guilty.
It’s say it right there!!!! AGAINST YOU!!! It doesn’t say this is your chance to tell your side!!! Come on people.
“I am invoking my right to remain silent” super important to stand your ground on this phrase
more important would be to be a man and just fight without “poking.”. This guy, from my closed carry literature as a reference, incited it. Looking at this video as a way to avoid punishment is probably the most diseased perspective.
Everyone thinks they can explain their version and walk out.
@@viasevenvai Whether you're guilty or not, your strategy and the dangers you face are the same.
@Debra Congram ok Debra
@Debra Congram you legal advice tube
Remember folks, there were 2 females and a cabdriver as witnesses also. It wasn't just this interview that got him convicted.
"Well, first off you have the right to rema..."
YES! That one! That one right there. I'll take that one!
People are afraid if they "lawyer up" it makes them look guilty. So many times an interrogator makes it seem like it's no big deal.
Yep, I'm still seeing comments from people that think that talking to the police somehow was to his benefit. It's never to your benefit.
What really makes them look guilty is everything the lawyers use against them that they say to the cops. It’s doesn’t make you look guilty for asking for a lawyer, it makes you look smart. Remember these three steps when talking with cops, firstly ask for a lawyer before saying anything else, B, tell them you want a lawyer thirdly and lastest, ASK FOR A LAWYER! If you follow those three steps you will look smartly.
Yesterday I saw a comment saying “then you have a target on your back.” I’d rather have a lawyer with a target on my back than no lawyer and still have a target on my back.
You’re saying that the detective isn’t there to help you ?? I hear them claim that all the time so it must be true ?
@@tompilkington7379 Those are 3 important tips .. one example I think ab is the rich villain or mob boss in movies have their lawyer on the payroll handle talking with the police or detectives because thats what they went to school for that’s their job to do what’s in the best interest in your case and not allow self incrimination.. it’s the same for real life a smart criminal will let his lawyer handle everything the police are not your friend and aren’t there to help you other than helping you into jail or prison ..
The ticking of the clock is just brutal.
Tell tale heart
Being a former cop, I installed a clock with a loud tick just to ratchet up the tension. Just sitting there by myself the ticking of the clock was unnerving
Like falling asleep in grandma's house
Damn it! I didn’t notice until I read this! 😂
Kid did seem remorseful but 13 times is tough to overlook. Just remember all you young guys, nothing good happens at a bar after midnight. Both lives ruined over a stupid insult and bar fight.
No doubt you’re correct. He did remember using knife “more than once”. He either knew it was a lot more and didn’t want to say or just blind drunk and it’s all a blur.
Yet if a cop fires their pistol into their attacker 13 times or more, it's perfectly justified. His life is equally valuable as any cop so he should be given the same consideration as any cop that defended themselves by firing multiple rounds into an attacker.
@@rikijett310 No, that's not perfectly fine.
@@rikijett310 that's a stupid comparison, it laughable. He is nothing like a cop and shouldn't be treated as such.
@Riki Jett name one time a cop has shot someone 13 and it was justified.
I hired a lawyer before I watched this video
Never talk to the victim without hiring a cop! And never stab the lawyer before questioning any of the answers they give you! Common sense! 🤪
This cop is great in getting information and even sounding like he was a friend or something at the end by saying he was ‘welcome to speak to him at any time’ which could also be termed ‘if you want to admit anything else please do’.
I also feel that the detective respected the suspect’s remorse and wanted to be a witness to and acknowledge that he was going through a very difficult range of emotions. I truly think the detective wanted to be there for his grief, regret, shock, remorse, and self-loathing.
@@MichaelIhde69Don’t be naive. The police are not there to be a shoulder to cry on. They want to close cases with convictions and he is manipulating the suspect’s heightened emotional state to extract more evidence for that conviction.
Thats why you never talk without a lawyer
Someone (the actual murderer) tried to place me in an area where someone I knew was murdered. It happened months into the investigation after the first two people he claimed to have committed the crime kept coming up clean. I was contacted by the police and showed up with a lawyer the next day. We walked in, the lawyer talked to the detective for a couple minutes and we walked back out. They never contacted me again once they found out I had a clear alibi and a lawyer. It took them almost 3 years to finally charge the murderer.
Good play coming in with a lawyer, taking no chances. The right way 👍
The innocent should always get a lawyer.
@@theoryofpersonality1420 so should guilty people! 😂😂
Murderers name?
Great to hear someone talk about doing things the correct way. Enjoy your life and liberty friend.
I'm 50 and never once, I was in a fight. Even in the years in which I was frequenting pretty tough clubs I laid a finger on anyone and vice versa. Some call me a chicken, I believe that avoiding useless, stupid and dangerous confrontation is way better.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hell yeah. Whenever I was in a club and accidentally bumped into anyone I quickly apologized because that’s the sort of stupid thing that people fight over. I’ve been in one brawl after the club let out and that was only helping my friends who had already started fighting.
After I turned 18 and landed in jail 3 times for fighting in the first few months of being 18, I quit fighting
Wow. This is the first time I’ve ever washed an interrogation, and actually felt bad for the murderer. It seemed like genuine remorse for what he had done.
in this case he is a 'killer', not a 'murderer'
Do you often wash interrogations? I prefer to watch them!!
shows how manipulative he is lol. you shouldnt feel bad for him.
@RosieClipBot - perhaps that’s why so many young women get duped by manipulative narcissists who end up abusing them. Don’t be naive, the guy knew what he was doing.
Felt bad...? He stabbed him 13-14 times... pretend stab your pillow 13 times. I don't feel bad for this coward using a knife in a fist fight what soever. I think he should do life. I've been in fist fights where knives were pulled, even tried using it on me once, every time someone pulled out a knife it was the biggest dirtbag lowlife.. This kid looked like one as well, and did a good job pretending to be confused, and acting innocent. I don't buy it one bit. Didn't feel like genuine remorse to me, felt like regret he's going to jail for a long time. He didn't call police, pretended his phone died, left the scene, and didn't remember stabbing him over a dozen times? Give me a break. Hope he gets stabbed in his rear every day in prison.
This is why I don't go out drinking and never carry any kind of a weapon. I'm not a violent person but when the alcohol flows anything is possible.
True!!
better to have it just in case. Better off just not drinking if you're a violent drunk.
@@killabkillled348 facts
@@killabkillled348 I've been violent in my youth. Thats what scares me. But yes I would be better off not drinking at all. You're 100% right.
@@mcchillindaily4581 nothing wrong with having a drink or two after work and before/during dinner :)
“What are you in for?”
“Stabbed a guy to death.”
“Why?”
“Said something derogatory to me.”
“What was it?”
“Ya kno, i dont rly remember.”
🤣
The police telling you they know everything is like them standing outside your door saying the have a key but won’t use it because they’re vampires or something 😂
What they say: "We already know everything but we need to hear it from you so we can help you."
What they mean: "We don't know enough to charge you otherwise we would have done it already, we don't need you to tell us anything if we have evidence. We need you to tell us so we can arrest you"
I absolutely love your videos and you are by far my favorite YT channel. Your commentary is perfect-- you're compassionate and informative without getting in the way of the story. Please don't ever change that. Thank you so much for all of your hard work!
Dude. Kind of off topic, but the fact that you know the difference between your and you’re is not a common thing. It’s one of my pet peeves, so I always notice it. The fact that you use both words in your comment and use them correctly is amazing. I haven’t seen that in a loooong time.
Btw i am not being sarcastic
@@pcpalan *OMG I'm the same way! lol*
I'm known online as the "Grammar Nazi" 😂🤣 Oh well, I've been called worse.
I went to a REALLY strict Roman Catholic shool in Philly & grammar was like top of the list of things we were literally drilled on for years, ugh, I hated it...But now, throughout my adult life, I'm glad I was taught that way. Sometimes it can be a curse tho - like you said you see it right away in someone's typing. ME TOOOO & sometimes I wish I cld just turn it off but I can't. It is what it is.
Yea lie some voice over a story is boring 😴 or annoying 🙄
Idk who your talking to maybe your talking to ppl that have no clue how to right? He is amazed isn’t he? I kinda like you’re vibe thou. Perfectly like done tho write? He knew what he were doing he NEW that could of hurted him but he did it any way thou!
Nah- just playing lol☝🏻 I had to, I just love ppl who correct ppl’s writing. 💀
*Alcohol ruins your judgement. A stab or two for self defense, but 15?! That's maniacal.* 🙄
"Self defense" = fleeing the scene, making up false details about other people attacking him, stabbing him 13 TIMES
"I don't know why the cab driver wouldn't take me" probably because you were covered in blood from murdering a person over an insult
Technically law enforcement only has to inform you of your rights when you're at the station. The "Miranda Warning", and the rights it includes, are custody based. If you are at home or at a family member/friend's house, (or somewhere public, ie- a diner or coffee shop, ect.) LEOs aren't required to mirandize you before questioning. They can ask whatever they want and it can be used against you in court. Most people are unaware that the "Miranda Warning(s)" are strictly custody based. Hopefully this information is useful to someone out there.
It can be dicey for the cops, though, which is why they avoid it. For e.g. if a uniformed cop says, "Step over here, I just want to ask you some questions" Is that an order? Are you detained? When a guy with a uni, badge, and gun says "step over here" it's, at best, ambiguous and lawyers do successfully persuade courts that that's a de facto detainment and formal questioning, not a consentual conversation.
you can invoke the 5th whenever you want. your right's don't start upon the miranda reading.
But we still have those rights and unless are in custody, can just walk away.
Not really. The test to determine custody is whether a reasonable person would be free to go under similar circumstances.
You can be at a police station but if they say the words you are free to go, they can just keep asking questions without invoking Miranda.
This is one of the only videos like this where the suspect actually showed some remorse.
so your dumb azz fell for the fake remorse ??? 😅😅😅
My rear
Anyone could put an act when they're desperate
Everyone is remorseful when their life is over
Crocodile tears
NEVER talk to them without a lawyer. They are not on your side and don't care if you're guilty or innocent. They just want to close a case.
Well this guy is guilty and deserved sentence for taking another life
@@pale_saint i feel like he would of got less time if he aint talk tbh... he would of got like 7 years
Unsubstantiated, nonsense assertion. Stay out of adult conversations until you grow up.
@@pale_saint If it’s ever in legitimate self defense, it’s not taking a life, it’s protecting your own.
I bet the dead guys family dont think that
So sad for everyone involved. I believe he truly was remorseful. Terrible things can happen when people get drunk and lose control.
Was he remorseful for the kid he stabbed in a drunken rage 13 or 14 times, or is he remorseful for himself that he just learned that he would be facing murder charges?
I think he was remorseful.
Absolutely!
@user-qf8pg6cf8lproud he killed someone wow..says a lot about you
If he was remorseful why didn't he turn himself in?
There is nothing so bad that alcohol doesn't make worse.
Thank you for your excellent work, RTC.
IDK, alcohol makes the world around us just a little bit better to deal with!
One thousand amens
If I've learned anything from years of watching true crime, it's the title of this video!
Hi Katie!
If I've learned anything, the guilty think not getting a lawyer makes them look innocent lol
It's funny because while these videos are most of the time well intentioned, cops must hate them. Imagine how many people wised up and made their jobs harder because of them!
@@kimmoran4437 Haha, hi, Kim! Fancy seeing you here!
@@NewAccountWhoDis And also the innocent thinking they should just go ahead and talk to the police because they did nothing wrong. NOPE!
My heart breaks for everyone involved. You can feel his remorse. Just tragic. 😭
A you is born every minute 😂
I’m so ready to be questioned for a crime, I’ve watched so many of these interrogations, I’m ready! However I lead a very boring life and feel guilty when I do the tiniest things, so no chance of being interrogated any time soon. 😂
You'd be surprised...
You'd crack under my interrogation
@@holdencawffle626 plead the 5th, lawyer.....fugg off little piggies. no cracking involved
My response? No habla Ingles
Yeah, you not ready...
It's easy for someone to think they know it all after watching a bunch of RUclips videos... But it's much different when that person is actually in the hot seat themselves 😱 Police interrogations can be very intimidating.
And I'm not saying that I'd do any better either 🤷♂️
I’ve always been with buddies. If someone suggested we were gay? Lol, I’d literally lol. Then I’d come on to the person calling us gay. Be like, we’re always looking for a third big boy. Lol
That is the best way to handle it. But then what if they say yes? Hahaha
@@joebidengirlsniffer8337 ack ! Back away slowly 😆
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland 🤣😭
The fact the he showed such remorse really breaks my heart for this young man. I’m sure I’m not the only one that has done stupid things when I was young and intoxicated, alcohol can really mess with your judgement. Knowing all it takes is just one really bad fuk up and I could have landed in similar circumstances, and that’s so scary. 😢
No you're definitely the only one who has done stupid things when young and intoxicated. I mean who in their right developing young mind gets extremely inebriated amd makes bad decisions. Not me, no siree. Only righteous and moral behavior for me when im wasted.
@@FukcAUsername I’m going to take this as a joke because it seriously sounds like one. But if it isn’t, wow, you need to get a life 👍🏼
Fuck him. Stupid cunt brought a fucking knife to a bar with him and ended another man's life. He wasn't remorseful, he was upset that he was now looking at murder charges instead of assault charges
@@FukcAUsername OMG! Me too! I got so wasted one time I won the Nobel Peace Prize!
I spent most of my early 20s near blackout drunk & never once stabbed somebody
I don't know if at any point his life was in any actual danger. I do know that alcohol often causes people to make stupid, irreversible mistakes. Being young amplifies that, and being a young male even more so. He appeared genuinely remorseful and I can only imagine what's going through his head. This interrogation ought to be shown in high schools so that young people can see how easily a stupid insult can end two lives-the one who made the insult and the one who "couldn't" let the insult pass.
Excellent idea.
If someone had been beating a cop the same way they were beating this dude, the cop would just shoot them and never even question if it was justified. He would be rewarded with a week paid vacation instead of being sent to prison.
It takes one bad hit to kill someone, they fall and smash their head and then it’s over. Looking at his face and considering the guy was still attacking him I think he was correct to be concerned. But stabbing someone 13 times is just inexcusable.
Yep - the frontal lobe (decision making) is in flux and not fully developed until 25 years… add in adrenaline, alcohol, testosterone and a knife- it’s a recipe for disaster😢
Who are you too say his life wasn't in danger, have you ever been violently assaulted by multiple men at once? Cause that's what was happening too him
Guilty - No lawyer
Innocent - Lawyer
The guilty LOVE to call bluffs lol
I think you mean they love to bluff. The detectives then go on to call that bluff.
@@scottmatznick3140 they are calling the bluffs UNTIL the detectives call theirs lol
Don't watch these often? 🤭😬
That was absolutely heart wrenching. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but just made a bad decision.
Yes and he was probably drunk when he did it. So now that he sober it hit him really hard.
He stabbed him 13 times..
Yeah sure was heart-wrenching for the family of his victim that he stood over and stabbed over and over and over 13 times!!! Take your arm and jab it forward 13 times and see how long it takes to do that even as fast as you can it still takes like what seems like forever. What happened is this kid got embarrassed in front of his little girlfriend, the other kid got the best of him and instead of taking it like a man and dealing with it he makes the bright decision to pull out his knife and stab a guy 13 times. And secondly, in most states it's illegal to carry a knife in a bar, plus just carrying a knife in a bar is looking for trouble. And then to top it as if just to confirm to us all his stupidity he sits in the Police department and has the audacity to ask the detective "is he okay"?, Uhm no bruh, he's not okay you literally stabbed him 13 TIMES dude wtf ?!!
This guy is a bltch for pulling a knife when he was getting his ass whooped 1v1
@@TheLastSpartan04 most definitely a bitch , and an idiot for pulling the knife and stabbing when he could've walked away, but noooo, look at dumbass now, going to be someone's girlfriend for the next 25 yrs in prison.
People should learn from the legend of Jeff more.
I adore that guy. He's pretty goofy but also insanely smart!
Wham bam thanks for the coke.
Amen. That guy was great.
🙂
What? 22 years for a case of self defense? This is not OK! I believe the boy when he said he feared for his life! And he was in clear and deep shock when he heard the other guy had died. What a tragedy for all sides. Very sad.
The problem with self defense is it hard to say self defense if he’s saying he dosent remember or everything was blurry or he’s confused about anything they are gonna say how can he be defending him self if he don’t remember or dosent know when or what happened. And also stabbing the guy in the back may indicate that the fight was over or the other could have been walking away which means he’s no longer a threat a lot of people confuse getting beat up with life threatening and after it’s done he’s no longer a threat
Stabbing someone 13x goes above self-defense. Not saying it is ok to poke someone, but if it was 2 or 3 hits with the knife, people are more likely to believe it was self defense. When u hit #13, it is hard to believe your life was still in danger.
@@jerameyblomquist326 I totally understand what you’re saying but I also think stress and anxiety of such traumatic situations can cause forgetfulness.
We have forgetfulness on a regular basis due to lack of sleep.
@@mattymaple1976 This is why credible self defense instructors ALMOST NEVER recommend knives for self defense. You are setting yourself up for a hard road to prove your innocence. Yes prove your innocence!
It often takes many more wounds than most people realize to neutralize a threat intent on remaining a threat to you. I've seen people stabbed multiples times who actually remained alert in the Emergency room after a knife attack. Without seeing their wounds and their blood soaked clothing, you wouldn't even realize anything was wrong with them. They are just sitting there like a lump. On top of that, violence with a knife generally invokes images of intimate bloody brutality in the minds of most people, regardless of whether that is indeed true or just an inherent bias.
@@TNAROHfan thanks for the info!
We need to raise our young men with more love. We all lose in a world of broken men...
Sadly sometimes all it takes is for your son to meet the wrong person but I do wish your post was the absolute truth.
My school teacher always told us if you ever speak with law enforcement say you want a lawyer your parents (we were kids in school) and remain silent period.
I was detained and questioned by a police department, in Alabama, and I wasn’t read my rights. Not only that, once I realized they were accusing me of a crime, I shut up, and was told they weren’t required to read them to me. I was blocked in by 3 police cars, forced out of my vehicle, had my vehicle, and person, searched, and I was clearly not free to leave. I ended up being arrested, booked, and charged with 2 crimes (1 was a lie and they knew it, and the other was added on bc they were embarrassed that they didn’t find what they were accusing me of). At no time, did they ever read me my rights. I was terrified, alone, and bullied/tricked into “just paying some fines and putting it behind me”. Now, I have that on my record. I tried to stand up for myself but I was way overpowered. I would definitely handle it differently if it happened again.
Damn sucks that happens to you I'm sorry
It happened to me as well, I was only 17 (which was considered a legal adult in Massachusetts at the time). Luckily I had had a conversation with my father a few months before about it speaking to the police and always asking for an attorney. I was the only person out of four that requested an attorney, I was also the only person that walked away from it with a clean record.
Alabama. You leave your rights behind at the Mason Dixon Line.
@@Kthb80 you should thank your dad everyday.
Im from AL, from my understanding, when I got arrested a few months ago (missed traffic court and forgot all about it all till I was pulled over for speeding) they aren’t required to read you the rights anymore. Very interesting. Hate that happened to you though.
It’s extremely rare for a perpetrator to care for the family first before himself when given the opportunity to ask a final question before going to jail.
Get a lawyer, never, ever talk without one!!! I just screwed you but you're welcome to talk to me anytime. Lol
Yea wtf. I know its his job, but he didnt have to be so manipulative like that. He should of told him the truth from the beginning about the guy dieing, and guide him towards a lawyer. If your a detective and can tell its self defense, then why manipulate to go against the victims side? I think the detectives should only use that manipulating tactic in crimes where its not self defense. like if its a suspected serial killer then yeah sure manipulate a little if you know its them, but if its self defense cases like this. Then they should be less manipulative and more into guiding the victim (self defender) towards what they need to be doing to get through the justice system.
Basically my point is, the detectives should take into consideration the type of crime when they interrogate, and treat the interrogations accordingly and not treat each situation the exact same.
“Don’t count yourself out just yet” 😂😭 yea right buddy you’re cooked
You have no obligation to speak to the police. None! Everything you say will be used against you in court. Even with a lawyer present You do not have to say 1 word. Say nothing more than I do not answer questions.
so will me doing that help me get out of prison so I can continue to do stuff if you know what I mean
My old friend used to always say, nothing good happens after midnight. -- Really just a reminder that a night home with family and a movie is better than any drunken night with complications.
When you’re in a room alone with a cop the only words coming out of your mouth is ‘I want to see my lawyer’
When you stab an unarmed man 13 times, it not selfdefense anymore..
If his story is true and I was on the jury that would be 100% self defense. He was being kicked punched in the face over and over again. What was he supposed to do ask him if he’s done beating the daylights out of him before he pulls his knife. Self defense it would have been a hung jury.
Well thank god you weren’t part of the jury lmao
Police: "if you just talk to me, I can help you, okay?"
John Clark: "Okay I'll start at the molars and work my way forward, you tell me when it hurts so badly that you want to talk."
I'm very pro-law enforcement. But when they read you your rights you don't say ANYTHING further. Be polite, keep your yap shut. They're trained to trip you up. It's their duty. Deny them.
They should find a way to find the truth not to "trip you up".
Does they gain some pleasure in putting in prison innocent people (no correlation to the vid)
Honestly he seemed remorseful and honest as to what happened to me
your point?
To me, his remorse is canceled out by him not calling the police to help the guy he's supposedly "remorseful" about, and also it's canceled out by THIRTEEN STAB WOUNDS
If he was black ! Life without parole . Since he’s an attractive white male possible Parole after 10 years lol
YES...that was his mistake. If he had called the cops and gotten an attorney...he'd be looking at 5 years instead of 20.
@@gonzokushwhat about OJ?
@@bmo5082 Terrible comparison. Do you even remember that case? The only similarity between that case and this one is that a knife was the murder weapon.
@@basbleupeaunoire No it is the right comparison. O J Simpson got away with murder and I believe it was that comparison the poster was making because Simpson is black!
Save your self hours of interrogations, and ask for an attorney 👌
No, then we won't get new interrogation videos. I like the Canadian system where a suspect allowed to stay silent, but cops can still talk to you for a while. It works sometimes (for the cops), like the Michael Rafferty interrogation.
If he had called the cops right away and said he stabbed him 13 times because the guy was beating on him and the first 12 stabs didn't stop him, then he'd be a free man right now.
Can someone explain how he got manslaughter? I thought that was an accidental killing.
@@trevthegamedev it means you killed someone without premeditation. Perhaps the guy who died is the one who initiated the fight.
@@dumpjeep I thought 2nd degree murder was intent to kill without premeditation
@@trevthegamedev it is. My understanding of manslaughter is it's gross negligence or essentially an accident that theres still fault for, like drunk driving and hitting someone. I think the difference is that there's no intent to kill
@Future Pants if youre getting yourself into situations like that repeatedly, then you are the one with the screw loose, and probably full of isht.
Yup .. his crying at the 24 minute mark is him realizing his life is now fucked. A couple stabs…. Yea maybe self defense but 13 stabs… that’s murder
I feel TERRIBLE for everyone involved! How tragic this happened over something so dumb! 💔
Damn, that was a raw, genuine reaction when he learned he had died. You can tell he is overwhelmed with both guilt and regret. I feel bad for him. Granted he did stab him but it sounds like the circumstances was very murky
13 goddam times
Thirteen goddam times!
He may as well wanted him dead. Good acting on his part
@@holdencawffle626 You're correct. I cannot justify his actions or explain them. To me it sounded like he was drunk and didn't even realize. Again, not an excuse. But that reaction was not faked and was not acting
@@holdencawffle626 Drunk, adrenaline rush, anger from taking some blows, not knowing if more were going to jump in against him in the fight, and a bruised ego from the previous and present disrespect when they argued.
He's crying for himself because he knows the ramifications of the guy dying because of stab wounds he inflicted. If you stab someone say 5 times they're going to back off and try to get away from you so they dont get stabbed again. To stab the 8 more times after that is pretty damn hard to justify in any way.
@@nomudnolotus4410 he could be crying for himself but it seems like he accepted the consequences immediately (detective told him he’s going to jail and he said okay and didn’t question why or try to weasel his way out) and even showed remorse to the victim’s family.
The average detective can't solve any crime without witnesses or a confession. Remember this.
Thanks, Kojak
Also the average detective cant solve a crime without doing his job..... FFS. You actually typed that?
That’s because there are very few smart cops but a lot stupid criminals!
Plenty of crimes have been solved without witnesses or a confession - they are solved with evidence and although witnesses are helpful and a confession even more so, they are rarely essential. Especially now with CCTV everywhere, vehicle tracking (numberplate recognition), cellphone tracking, electronic communications records, DNA etc...
Judge Richard Bevan sentenced Lish to 22 years, but said he could be eligible for parole after serving at least 10 years.
That was in 2013, cayde will be eligible for parole this year.
Alcohol + ego/toxicity = ruined lives.
The biggest killer of young men is other young men.
So sad and senseless and the pain will ripple out far and wide.
I genuinely believe the young man’s remorse.
It’s time alcohol was treated like the killer it is.
@fluke dog its a drug for sure but banning it has been tried in america before. It did not end well.
@fluke dog Because the "War on [insert substance]" has always worked.
Actually I think it’s opioids.
Add loose women in the mix and it’s even worse.
Amen to that !!! Alcohol is the most dangerous and destructive drug EVER !!!!
I hope people learned their lesson by watching this video. If you're ever in a situation where you're being interrogated about an event that happened when you were drunk, or when you thought you needed to defend yourself, shut the f*ck up and get an attorney. It's a very sad, very tragic situation.
Never let your ego put you behind bars
Thank you for another amazing video. Always looking forward to them. Appreciate all of your hard work and time you put into them. It is always a great source of education and entertainment!
Tremendous video....
1st time I have seen anyone with sincere remorse and horrific feelings about what he did.
He really seemed to be truthful from the beginning .
Alcohol was a huge factor in this case.
It's a Tragedy for the Victims Family and the young fellow who is going to prison for many years and I strongly believe he had NO memory of what happened.
The Detective did a AWESOME JOB with regards to his role too.
It's too bad the majority of Cops and Detectives don't Perform Professionally, in Murder Cases as this gentleman.
On good behavior he will be out in
""" FIVE """ years and he can be a productive citizen.
RIP young fellow.
May God help his parents through this terrible loss.
Thks 4 sharing
Cheers
You are only read your Miranda Rights if you are in CUSTODY. So, if you are being read your Miranda Rights, you are in fact in custody and being charged with something. Police officers are not required to read a person their Miranda Rights if you are not in custody. So the beginning info was slightly off. I just graduated from law school and studying for the bar so felt compelled to correct you a little :)
As always excellent commentary & gripping narrative!
Love watching your videos & work Red Tree Crime, all the way from Australia 🇦🇺
People: “Police don’t do enough or take these calls seriously”
People again: “Don’t EVER talk to the police!”
Lol
The way the detective acts disinterested by picking his nails….so good. Masterclass.
Why is it that police are trained to shoot until the threat is neutralized(empty their clips), but an untrained civilian is supposed to know when to draw the line while they’re getting beaten to death by multiple attackers?
I always love longer content. Videos such as this have replaced tv shows for me ever since I cut the cord.
I think he really felt bad. I wish none of it had ever happened. Prayers for the families.
A lot of ppl saying "they feel bad for him, he seems remorseful". Yea, maybe because he knows he got caught and he's going to prison. 🤷♂️
I am so obsessed with your video's like crazy!! I have been beng watching them for about a week or so!! Keep up the amazing work you do and i love how you do your video's!! ❤❤❤
If you’re going to get drunk and not remember things, perhaps a knife in you’re pocket isn’t the wisest move.
Great vids dude keep it up
I read this before and I’m not claiming as my own… “if you’re guilty, you need a lawyer, if you’re innocent, then you REALLY need a lawyer”…
Damn! I literally felt being in his shoes when the cop told him the guy died.. I felt being him with every labored breath he took. I felt it because in my teenage and early 20s, any one of those nights I went out could have ended like this. My god if I got anything from this was sadness but also deep gratitude for not going through this myself and we all gotta count our blessings
The cop first told him he didn’t know how the guy was and then, without leaving the room or talking to anyone, told him the guy died. Cops are dirty
I have learned a lot watching vids like these. Wish more people would educate themselves instead of talking themselves into trouble.
He killed a man
@@yellowsaurus4895 What does that have to do with the comment you're replying to?
@@Smartercow I think the implication is that he should be happy that murders are making it easy for the police.
Unfortunately, most people think asking for a lawyer makes them appear guilty. Even if you are innocent, you should speak with a lawyer first.
@@Sirstealthsalot yes
This is bullshit. Poor guy defends himself from a dude that has started shit with him multiple times and gets 20+ years???? Absolutely RIDICULOUS.
Never would I believe I'd watch an interrogation of a murderer and actually feel bad for them but I do. I believe he's genuinely remorseful.
The fact that his only request was to relay to the man's family how sorry he is says a lot.
He had given this a lot of thought.
Who knows how genuine it was.
You’re not very bright, hm?
This is a quasi self defense situation. If he was really getting the crap beat out of him, it’s justified to use deadly force. Cops can unload 10 shots into an aggressor, I don’t see how this is worse.
I’m not sure why he didn’t call the police, but you can see he’s honest and his reaction to finding out he killed him, is genuine. Horrible situation and I feel for him. Tragic that the guy died, it really is; but he wasn’t blameless for creating a bad situation. No reason to be killed; but I don’t think that was ever the plan. Another interesting thing to note, when Cayde was 18 he was arrested again due to alcohol and weapons. I hope Cayde gets help with alcohol abuse and his temper. I don’t think he’s a bad guy at all, and his remorse is genuine. He needs help.
You really believe he thought the guy would be ok?after stabbing him 13 times?utter crap.he carried a knife for a reason
The police officer told him, "If you stabbed him 1--3 time's it would be okay but since you stabbed him more I have to arrest you!! Yeah right
at 3:38 when the suspect asks, "is this guy ok?" the cop breaks eye contact. this is sometimes a clue the person (in this case, the cop) is uncomfortable with the question.
Staying out of drinking establishments is a good rule to live by. Saloons, pubs, bars, watering holes,taverns, drunken events, are all places to avoid.
When police tell you that you have a right to remain silent that is a reminder to shut the hell up and get a lawyer!!
I think everyone would appreciate if you shut the hell up as well
They don’t have to read you your rights just because they are asking questions about a potential crime. There are two elements that have to be present: 1) Questioning; 2) You must be in their custody. The rights apply to custodial questioning. IMPORTANT ADVICE: If you find yourself being questioned by law enforcement AND they read you your rights - STOP TALKING! PERIOD! Ask for an attorney, period, end of story.
*FIRST & FOREMOST - NEVER, EVER TALK TO THE LAW WITHOUT A LAWYER!!*
Sad and I do believe he showed genuine remorse but at the same time, we all have to take responsibility for what we do - even while under the influence. A life was taken and that family will never recover from that. Accountability is what ppl are looking for. Sad case 😞 ~Peace✌🏽
Especially when under the influence !!
Can you help me understand what difference a lawyer would have made here? My understanding is that the lawyer’s argument would be the exact same as he said in the interrogation: “Yes, Cayde stabbed him, but it was self defense”
@@trevthegamedev A lawyer will tell their client immediately NOT TO SAY A WORD.
He didn't deny accountability, when told he was going to jail he accepted it in like 2 seconds and was compliant as the interrogator wrapped everything up. He also served his time and got parole so there's that going for him. We do need to remember that when intoxicated your brain is impaired. One stab might as well have been 50 for all he knew. His only thought was "hey I'm being hurt and can't tell how many are here, I'm going to start stabbing my attackers to make them stop". 13 is alot yes but when his mind is made up that multiple people are hitting him, that number realistically makes sense when you believe 100% you are going after multiple and not just one.
DETECTIVE: I don't know the latest on the victim.
ALSO DETECTIVE LATER: He's dead.
The detective absolutely lied to extract a confession. The kid might have lawyered up had he of known the victim died.
He did seem remorseful. First one Ive ever seen apologize to the family.
I hope he is able to do something positive from this whole tragedy.
I honestly think this kid was worried and scared for his life.I feel bad for the other kids family but you go around doing what I call "toughing"the worst could happen and hopefully a couple of people learn from this case.
Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. If your fist don’t work, then just take the L. Never in my youth did I think pulling out a deadly weapon was the solution. I never even purchased a gun until my 30s for the fear of doing something stupid. Such a senseless crime over nothing.
Had he NOT gone into that interrogation room and had he NOT self-snitched, he may still be free. NEVER talk to cops without a lawyer! Ever. Whether you are guilty or innocent. I watch a lot of these videos and most of the time cops have very little to charge a person with UNTIL they self-snitch. Fools. This is why you need to know your rights. Videos like these educate the public. I am thankful for people like (you) who posts these vids.
serious question, how do you think having a lawyer would have changed the outcome of this case?
@@kalia7190 NEVER. and I mean NEVER step into an interrogation room without a lawyer present. Let the lawyer be your mouthpiece. Cops are there to arrest and convict. They are not hired to "serve and protect."
Are you inferring that had he had a lawyer present, he may well have got away with murder?
Would have been very interesting to see some witness interrogations on this case. But thank you, very interesting stuff!
talking to a trained interrogator like this is like fighting a trained fighter when you know nothing about fighting
in both cases don't do it
Hard core body/body language mirroring. I believe its the interrogater thats doing the mirroring. Hes even fidgeting with his hands like him.
“ How’s the guy doing? COP: “I haven’t heard the latest” The guy is dead, the cop knows he’s dead but let’s him keep talking. That’s the latest. It can’t get any later than the guy being dead! ALWAYS get an attorney!
Thanks for the video. These are great to listen to on long car rides.
I listen to them to and from work everyday lol
I feel like nobody is taking into account how fast you actually would stab somebody if you are getting beat up, go grab a pocket knife, and a box, hold the knife with the blad facing you, and stab the box 13 times as fast you can. It shouldn’t take longer than 2-3 seconds.
Especially with a combo of the adrenaline and alcohol.
Have you actually done that? I think 2-3 seconds is unrealistic. You would be looking at closer to five seconds to stab with any legitimate force.
If you are taking hits on the ground as he said there would be leg stab wounds. The guy was pissed, got up and murdered the other kid
I think it’s a lot harder to stab a human being than a box.
So really it's just one very quick one. Do you know how much force it takes to stab once, never mind 13 times?