I literally quit drinking after watching this interrogation. Saw it over 6 months ago for the first time. I've had many blackout nights due to alcohol and I just never want to wake up someday and realize I've done something like this. I watch this interview from time to time to remind me never to drink again.
Really this is what stopped you ? Not the millions and millions killed by dwi drivers like entire family babies small kids innocent people but the cop cha get tour mind I guess that's great news but I figured all the above would had been more of a reason
I have a long time friend since high school who always had a drinking problem / blackout drunk. He would start fights, argue, misbehave, get thrown out of venues, destroy house parties and it got to the point he wasn’t invited anywhere…then in the early 21 century when smart phones came along Someone filmed him on a night out to show him what he was like. He joined AA, got a shrink and never drank again. It was a miracle he was never arrested or killed someone.
Good thing he had the ability to show humility and vulnerability in that situation. Likely saved his life. A narcissist would've refused to even watch the video of themselves.
Madness I was the same when I was younger always scrapping and having blackouts…you know I only ever had the blackouts from drinking vodka.I wasn’t always getting drunk by the way just now and than like you know.I actually hate drinking and don’t do it anymore.hate the feeling the next day for one but always looked back on my night out and felt ashamed because I used to do some messed up stuff.think I was lucky to be honest.I had fights on doormen and all sorts man.I also lost a lot of friends because of fighting all the time.
I'm sure his head is still quite clouded from the booze. I'm a recovering alcoholic and I thank God that I didn't kill anyone accidentally or intentionally when I was at my worst. This was always my biggest fear is waking up in the morning and finding out terrible news like this. Thoughts and prayers for the victim and his family Thanks for all the likes and comments . Weather the comments were positive or negative it's good to talk about it and I wish everyone the best and good luck in your life's journey
@@Bubbles99718 same here..alcohol is called spirits for a reason..im 2 years clean and been in many situations where i woke up in jail with no memory..or had friends tell me i did things i WOULD NEVER do sober
Truly sad for everyone involved! I myself was a blackout drinker and am so thankful I stopped years ago. So many nights of thinking I was having a good time and then the memories just stopped and I'd wake up in an unfamiliar place or with minor injuries not having a clue! Trying to explain what truly blacking out to someone feels like is almost impossible. Be thankful if you've never experienced it.
Alcohol is a hell of a drug. People underestimate it because it’s legal. I usually just end up being obnoxious and playing video games poorly, but I’m a full grown man, and it’s naive for me or anyone to think they’re incapable of making a terrible decision when they’re completely shitfaced. What’s saddest is, in his career, he probably had tons of cases that revealed to him what people do when they’re too drunk and didn’t learn from it.
Yes, people lose perspective because it’s legal. Unfortunately there’s no denying that alcohol is the worst drug by far when it comes to overall negative impacts on society, including violent crimes and deaths.
It’s funny when _we all know what the right thing is_ but it really just depends on who is put in the position to make poor/easy choices that leads to something this bad. Everyone knows smoking is unhealthy, but so many of us have tried it. We’re walking hypocrites, all of us…
Muskrat. Couldn't agree more in all you stated. Alcohol can ruin lives just as much as any other drug. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it is safe, maybe even more dangerous and lethal than some illegal drugs. So sad, this case is. Don't think though that LWP is really a right sentence in this case. This man has to live with the guilt of killing his friend for the rest of his life. That's gonna be daily hell for him.
Booze and being drunk is no excuse for being stupid, or making stupid decisions either. Drunk, sober, when you do the crime you will do the time and no jury will feel sorry for someone claiming it was the drugs, or the booze that did it. My opinion, an acid wash should be allowed over the hands of murderers like this one so not only will he not be able to do what he did, but wont ever pick up a drink again. Harsh?...no. That is called an eye for an eye because you cannot bring back the dead, so might as well make the bastard who did the crime suffer...and suffer...and suffer more.
Looks to me that the guy is still relatively inebriated and has found himself in a situation far from his comfort zone. Drunk, in a gown, and the shock of being told what he's done has really thrown his perception of reality for a loop.
The officer giving the questions stated he will advise him of his rights but I did not hear him actually read him the rights. Or I might’ve missed it but I don’t think I did.
I had an old roommate who would literally get so drunk she wouldn't remember stuff she did . Most of it being starting fights , yelling and screaming , busting things and the next day have zero recollection. If you ask me , people like this shouldn't drink . Period. This story is so heart breaking for both families.
Some people use "cloudy mind" as an escape to say that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions or lack thereof. If they did, they fkn did it.
You can tell the suspect is accepting the situation and isn’t showing remorse because he’s most likely nursing a hangover, the shock and legitimately doesn’t know what happened. He’s playing along because he cares more about being told what happened above trying to get out of the situation. If you look at the time stamp it’s still early morning (6am) and they had been drinking heavily. Anyone whose had a hangover knows that you can go to sleep at 12 and be sick as a dog waking up at 10.
Yeah it’s possible. And it seems cold and evil, but your body is so drained and destroyed that you just can’t process information and emotions correctly.
I always taught my son that it's easier to stay clean than to get clean! Most of the time this statement could apply to drugs, it can also apply to alcohol. Anything that exercises authority over you, even food addictions, can take you for a ride you don't want to be in.
alcohol IS a very hard drug, probably somewhere on the level of cocaine, certainly harder than weed or tobacco. It's both very psychoactive and very addictive. The only reason it's legal is because it was way too difficult to make it illegal.
You really come off as a bitch in that comment. Guess what for those without the money for help or who are hopeless alcohol is a life saver. There are certain psychiatric and socioeconomic aspects to drinking. People with PTSD and depression are prone to drinking. Trauma that goes hand in hand with poverty. Don't lecture people, don't make proclamations explaining these. It's real easy to be a back seat driver. Your name, and grinning photo of a middle aged Karen.
Former blackout drinker here sober almost 4 years now. I have had mornings where I had zero recollection of the previous nights events. I’m so grateful I have my sobriety and made it through (by the Grace of God) without killing someone else or myself.
3 years sober. Alcohol sucks. It destroys lives and families and futures & friendships & marriages. I’m ashamed of my past behavior. I prayed to God to help me. I hate alcohol & drugs.
I've had friends in life who were blackout drinkers. They're in disbelief when you tell them what an obnoxious asshole they were the night before. They get all embarrassed and apologetic, and then do it again a few nights later.
@@HolyEcoly actually it is , in fact it was common knowledge in the roman era already , they often used alcohol to get the truth out of their adversaries , where do you think the saying, in vino veritas , comes from
Giving up alcohol is the best decision I ever made. I've blacked out several times, and that is exactly what caused me to give it up. I've never been in a situation like this man, but I can definitely understand how he is feeling. Absolutely not worth it.
I agree. The worst feeling is not knowing what you did but guessing it was stupid and embarrassing. Maybe not murder but definitely humiliating. I finally was done choosing that chaos over and over also.
His "lack of remorse or sympathy" and that he hasn't asked for a lawyer is probably due to the fact that less than 12 hours before, he was so wasted that he beat one of his friends and boss to death and doesn't remember it and hasn't slept since then. The time says 6:40 am- he's either still very intoxicated or the hangover has started (and he'd likely still be kind of spinning and not thinking normally). There's a reason he keeps grunting and looking like he's falling asleep or has his eyes closed- he's likely fighting passing out, at least a few times. I doubt many others in his position would do much better. Without sleeping it off at least somewhat, the transition from drunk to hungover can be just as affective to your thinking and motor functions. You can still veryvmuch black out during this stage.
@@frocurl that’s ridiculous. This guy saying “I told him I didn’t want to go out, it was a bad idea to go out” literally victim blaming. Fwiw a life sentence indicates more then negligent homicide or manslaughter.
@@teddyjackson1902 no! They asked him what he could remember and in his mind he knows not a good idea to go to a bar. He doesn’t remember being mad about any of that. He didn’t really know what time they started watching the game think about that! Geez oh Pete! Uuuggg
My grandma always tells me "the devil will take you down deeper than you want to go, and keep you longer than you want to stay". As someone who was once an alcoholic I can see getting to a point of no return and having that shame and shock the next morning while being told the things I had done and the things that would come back that had happened. It's a terrifying feeling. I'm glad that I never killed anyone, its about the only thing I didn't do while intoxicated. My heart goes out to the victim and his family and my heart goes out to the guy and his family. I hope they can find it in them to forgive him so this isn't ruining their lives. It's hard to heal when someone you love passes away normally, I couldn't imagine losing someone I love in this manner. Tragic,tragic case.
This rings true of most every vice. One way or another, you’re dancing with the devil. You _think_ you’re in control. That’s the allure of evil. We think we can have our vices and still be okay. Like somehow we’re special. Humility is learning the hard way that we are not. And I am a humanist, a human, and a spiritual being having a human experience. ‘God’ is dead. Edit: Sincerely, Not a Christian.
Imagine partying with your close friend one moment then the next moment you are murdered by said "friend" and people are making comments as if HE'S the Victim here.
@@myliza700doesn’t sound like he’s making the man out to be a victim to me. Just acknowledging how quickly things got out of hand and how serious the consequences are
whats insane is that he probably wanted to do that already. Theres a reason why we have a "limit" and alcohol usually makes us do what we already want to do, specially if someone triggers you while you try to fight the urge to smash that bishes head with the lamp till he stops talking. But thats not the higher brain, its the one based on urges and instinct. Not one based on intelligent thought processes. But then again if you're literally dumber than a box of rocks, your control is already very small, put booze on it and then thats a mountain of gun powder with a flare sticking out of it waiting to blow
I was once told a story about a guy who woke up in jail after a night of heavy drinking - he thought he’d been booked for urinating in public, but it turned out to be homicide. This video makes me shudder for a million reasons
I’m in a rehab myself right now and easily could’ve ended up in a similar situation. 25 years old and blacking out nightly- boozin it up never helped with anything but certainly sent me into a downward spiral. Thank god the VA helped me out and got me somewhere
@@christoth2705 I don't know if you have been told, but people tend to make horrible choices when they're drunk. "Why would you kill someone?" For any number of reasons that may or may not make sense in that state. It's easier to prevent the state than to trust yourself in it.
Anyone who has blacked out then told in the morning that they did something crazy understands his reaction. You think you know yourself and you get proof that you did something you thought you'd never do and it just causes insane cognitive dissonance. Thankfully for most of us we don't kill our friend.
I’ve been there. I recorded myself singing once while black out and saw it when I woke up. Zero recollection. Quickly deleted it, embarrassed. Alcohol is dangerous. You’re there but you’re really not. Same with Benzos
@@seezkar9162 benzos are actually worse because they can make you appear to be more or less sober even while you're blacked out. Being drunk enough to be blacked out means you're not going to have very good balance or coordination, but you can be blacked out on benzos and walk like a sober person.
This is one of the most bizarre interrogations I've ever seen. I can't imagine being told you did something unthinkable while having no knowledge of the event.
Honestly it was very perceptive of the guests next door to call back down the the front desk after it got quiet. They could have just thought to themselves “finally they settled down,” and just gone on with their night. But instead they felt something was wrong about it and acted on it.
@@r.c.l2569 so edgy. Tic tac is right. I work at a hotel and some guests will complain of noise complaints and then call right back to the front saying it "quited" down and there's no need for further action.
I think they knew two men were fighting by the sound of it. It would be a little eerie if you heard a fight going on next door, a dude shouting “Mike stop,” and then silence 😂
Hey guys. I read your comments below and never once I thought you could be so sincere in your comments than the ones you had sincerely written below. Keep it up guys!!! Soberity is still the best of all policies. As one commenter wisely said below: "Your worst day sober is better than your best day drunk" Yeah!!! How true!! I had sobbed for not drinking, yet, I had been a sober for 9 years now. Cheers guys, it's truly worth the money and morality saved!!!
This is a crazy one. I believe him when he says he doesn’t remember. Sad for everyone, and it’s evidence that alcohol is potentially the worst drug of all
This is terrifying. I used to drink until I would blackout and I wouldn’t remember a single thing that I did no matter how hard I tried to remember. I would turn into a demon when I got that drunk and do terrible things. My girlfriend recorded me one night and showed me the next morning how I was in that state. I immediately called that day to set up an appointment with a therapist and vowed to do everything in my power to stop drinking. It’s a miracle I didn’t die or end up in jail. I used to drink everyday and blackout once every other week. I haven’t had a single drink since then. I just passed one year sober and I can tell you I’m never going back. I went to therapy and addressed all the things that made me drink. Therapy is a miracle. God gave me a second chance. Let this video be a lesson to everyone that drinks to the point of blacking out.
@@2511jeremy ?? what’s the point in this comment? are you denying the overwhelming evidence of how much alcohol affects your psychology? he stopped drinking so how is he the problem for acknowledging it?
Ok, I grew up with Lucky. Known him my entire life. We were friends all through school, and his family and my family are very close. Many days spent on the ball field as well as the lake together, and other activities. He was a good man, a great cop and overall well respected member of the community. I was asked to write a victims statement for sentencing, which I did so gladly but painfully. I’ve fallowed this case very closely. Here’s the thing- he can remember every detail they ask about that day, except killing a friend and coworker. I’m not buying it. Not one bit. What I do know is Lucky was a scrappy dude. He would not be able to take easily. Something g happened in that room, and only God and Mike knows. Please all I ask is be respectful. Lucky was a very close friend and a good man with a family. Edit. I’ve seen this interrogation many times. I forgot to mention the most compelling thing is when they tell him Lucky is dead he doesn’t even ask what happened. Because he knows. Can’t convince me otherwise.
You have every right to feel the way you do he was your friend, I'm sorry for your loss i hope one day you and the family will find the answers you're looking for . God bless.
I’m sorry for the loss of your friend and also feel awful for his family too. And I agree with what you said. It was just the first thing I thought after they answered his question about who had died. That he didn’t say anything about it at all is just so unnatural to the way most people would respond in the same situation. I think he remembers far more than he’s letting on. It’s a bizarre way to respond either way.
@@oktoberina thank you. Him being a detective he knows they have him dead to rights. He was the only one in the room. He knew his best defense was to just claim he doesn’t remember. I just can’t get past that he knew where they ate, and all that, but not killing Lucky. I have read the entire trial transcripts. They were both on the phone at one point taking to family and everything was fine. It just makes no sense how it got to that.
IDK. I have blacked out, lost my car and ended up 10 miles away from the bar I was drinking at, woke up on the sofa in a hotel lounge. i had no idea how I got there but I remembered everything that happened before I started drinking. Alcohol is terrible and should not be legal. Sorry for your loss.
A buddy of mine and me we're sitting at us house drinking and having a good time and the police detectives in the US Marshals knocked on the door and when he answered at they told him to put his hands behind his back. He was being arrested for vehicular homicide. I guess about eighteen months before the day that this happened he had been driving his truck on the way home from one of the parties he was at and thought he hit a deer and evidently it was a seventeen-year-old kid and not a deer. Took them 18 months and a massive amount of detective work to figure out that it was his truck. Crazy thing is I remember the day he said he thought he had a deer and I remember helping him clean his truck off not even knowing that he had killed somebody the night before. Here is the biggest drinker I've ever done in my life and now he's in jail of course but man that was the craziest turn of ever seen of anyone. He came from a great family of people who own businesses, bison farms, farms. Ect. He was set for life and his entire life was ruined because he blackout drank every night for years. To this day I tell this story to people who drink and drive. Hopefully it it's home to at least one person and actually matters you know. It was going to college for business management and about to graduate and start living life the way his parents were the most of his family were. They were pretty set!!!! I feel so bad Willow back on but I also feel so bad for Joe because he literally had no idea he didn't. I've never seen someone so devastated over anything in my entire life. What kind of crazy is my cousin was walking home from the bar in a different city and he was pretty far to the side though right out and somebody else who was at that same bar was driving on the road and went off the side of the road and killed my cousin and best couldn't have been even a year later. My saint and uncle sam's their other son were so devastated
@@ElToristo 6 years bro. Never even had a speeding ticket just loved to drink. Never been in trouble. At all. Didn't do drugs or smoke pot. What are the nicest guys you'll ever meet but I mean when your blackout drunk driving nothing ever good is going to come of it. 😕 Fuck 6 years at 22 years old never being in trouble your whole life that six years feels like a hundred. On god,, 🤣
@@ElToristo it was kind of crazy thinking back cleaning the blood and hair off the front grill. Now I've known people who have killed people with their car and knew about it but he genuinely did not know that he done anything wrong.. it's sad.
I can't remember a single problem I've had in my life that didn't involve alcohol. Let this be a lesson to everyone. Quit the damn booze. I'm glad I did. My life has been on an upward trajectory ever since.
@@tomtroy3792 that old a day at a time thing really works. Just make it through today and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I will tell you that the people you hang around make a big difference. Positive people change the game. Lastly don't beat yourself up if you mess up. When I was trying to quit I would be 6 beers in and then realize I fucked up. I'd stop right there and quit again. After a few months being sober will be normal, and life goes on. You got it man. You are bigger than alcohol.
Recovering alcoholic here. To my fellow brothers & sisters struggling w/ alcohol abuse, keep coming back to meetings. To some, this very situation was our worst fear when awaking from a blackout, this was our morning anxiety day in & day out. Very tragic.
Thanks for the advice. Strange to me how some people become really violent when drunk. Seems to me like they might have deeper issues than just alcohol addiction.
@@salil7174 I read an article about this. Apparently they were four times the legal limit. that is a .32 which would take drinking fifteen drinks in an hour to achieve meaning if they didn't do that, they had even more than that to drink over a period of time. If you're not passed out (which would take some developed tolerance) you're not yourself at all. It's absolutely not an excuse, this cop is a cold-blooded killer who deserves to die in jail. However, violent outbursts are not uncommon at all with a BAC that high.
15 years of military service, I've lost count of how many people like this I've worked with. It's always the same story; as long as nobody gets hurt then no harm, no foul and it gets swept under the rug. Well, here's what happens when somebody has to get hurt in order for action to be taken.
Me choosing to be an alcoholic pushed my wife to leave me. Don't drink to get drunk. You do things you would never do when you're sober. You can get some of the stuff you lost back. But the people you drove away you can never fully get them back.
When my band went on tour's, our drummer had a substance problem. Drinking whiskey and coors every day. Snorting oxycontin, eat the gel inside fentsnyl patches. Xanax etc. He was a fun happy drunk. He even managed to attract so many girls. No effort at all. Girls just flocked to him. Eye liner charisma and an androgynous look went a long way. When oxys became scarce in 2007 he got into heroin. Started to self-destruct and lose everything. 2011 he got sober and stayed that way to this day. 2013 his first daughter was born. Little did he know that his heart got infected with endocarditis unbeknownst to him. Year after year, he got sicker and sicker. 2 months after his mom died, On his bday in 2020, he could no longer walk or breath. About 30 minutes after ems got him to the er, he went into a coma. Dying from severe heart failure, sepsis, anemia, adema, pneumonia, had a stroke, spleen ruptured. 5% chance of survival. After about a month, he was put on do not resuscitate. 10 hours before plug was going to be pulled he woke up. Was on life support for months. Spent 6 months in icu. Had openheart surgery. Double valve replacement, 2 holes inside the heart closed, lungs drained several times and countless blood transfusions. He had to learn how to sit up, stand and walk all over again. But he gave everything he had to get back to his 2 little daughters that were not allowed to visit because of covid. That drummer was me. I'm sharing this story to hopefully reach someone who may need a reason to quit. One way or another, any form of substance abuse will eventually destroy your life. I though the worst was behind me but 9 years later, it tried to make me pay the price for my past. How I survived and came back with a full recovery is a mystery. I was giving a second chance and will never again take it for granted. Don't chance it like I did. Take the life and health you have now and protect it. Once you lose it, you're nothing but a fleeting memory in the minds of the few.
What a story!! Praise the Lord. Life is very short even when you take care of yourself. Please check out the saving Grace that has been offered to you by the sacrifice on the cross. You will then truly escape death forever. Please check it out. You deserve it!!!
“And when you lose it you’re nothing “… wow what another level comment and experience all that must have been. Just curious what you think brought your consciousness back online before going off machine support. Blessings to you
@@JackD87 bac 0.3 means 0.30% of the blood in weight is alcohol. Driving limit is 0.04%, depends on where you live. Where I live it's 0.02 and .4 is potentially fatal for normal people. Basically if he didn't kill his chief, but they continued drinking, and didn't vomit enough, they'd possibly be dead for intoxication anyways. The chief is responsible for his own death even if he got beaten up by this guy. It really depends on your weight, your body/liver, and how much you actually drink of course. But after a beer, maybe 0.02, after a couple maybe 0.1. Same amount of bac doesnt affect everyone the same way either.
I once saw a very close friend of 25yrs go after his mom in a blind drunkin' rage. I couldn't believe it, and when I step in between them he looked at me the same way. Saw his dad do it once as well... the term blind-drunk comes to mind, & rage seems to be a common companion.
I grew up with a alcoholic dad and I’ve seen him drink so much that he drank himself sober. Til this day he still drinks it’s an addiction that he hasn’t even tried to battle.
@@BlazeEst in my travels I have met a couple people like that. They’re truly terrifying. It’s like they’re possessed like The Exorcist. Those experiences stuck with me bc I felt like I really saw the devil here on earth
This is such a very sad situation for the parties involved as well as their families. Once he comes all the way down reality will really set it and I truly hate this for them all. At the end of the day he in an adult and if you know you’re not a responsible drinker then don’t drink. If you know you have a limit then don’t surpass it. His actions took the life of his friend. Prayers to them all ❤
not all that simple sometimes. Alcohol inhibits the thought process when intoxicated and lowers the mental reasoning someone has. You may not be a violent person and something may happen that triggers you and you do something terrible or just embarrassing. This is why alcohol and drugs can be so dangerous and why I quickly learned at a young age that I didn't want any part of them. For the most part though alcohol brings out a lot of how we already feel inside as you stated which is why its important as you put it to know your limit or try to be as cautious and responsible as possible.
@Buckwheat Hikes . A former Oklahoma police detective has been sentenced to life in prison for killing his police chief in 2019 in a Pensacola Beach hotel room. Michael Patrick Nealey, 50, was sentenced Thursday in the Nov. 10, 2019, death of Mannford (Oklahoma) Chief of Police Lucky Miller. I bet you think that other guy won in 2020 too , right ?
Apparently, all of it ! I searched and found this information: “ A former Oklahoma police detective has been sentenced to life in prison for killing his police chief in 2019 in a Pensacola Beach hotel room. Michael Patrick Nealey, 50, was sentenced Thursday in the Nov. 10, 2019, death of Mannford (Oklahoma) Chief of Police Lucky Miller.
Wow.. I've had a full blackouts in my drinking life.. Absolutely NOTHING, no rousing of the memory, every detail is completely gone. To this day I still cringe at not knowing what I did, because in 2 cases, people started treating me very differently when I saw them again.. Nothing was said but you sense when you've done something. I can't imagine being told this but his reaction doesn't seem off to me at all.. It's sheer "I believe the words you're telling me but Its not real to me with no memory of it". Tragic story all round
The same here. I used to drive all over Dallas/Ft. Worth blackout drunk and wake up in bed not remembering anything I'd done. Thank goodness I was able to walk away from that lifestyle. Amazingly, I never had any withdrawal symptoms or cravings to drink. I'm guessing there are different kinds of alcoholics.
If it's truly 6am, the same morning, he'd still be intoxicated in this interrogation. So yes he's in shock, but even more so he's still drunk. You'd think they'd give him time to sober up before interrogating but what do I know
A confession is a confession for the police, they don't care how they get it. I once was interrogated while still high on 2CB and K. In court I argued that this confession could not be trusted because I was under the influence. They didn't care one bit.
Nah they want him to talk and you do nothing better than talk when you're drunk, and it makes ya honest as well. Only problem is it can come back in court as a bad confession.
Security guard comments that the only response he could get out of Nealey at the scene was "grunts" and his eyes were "barely open". Nealey did a lot of monotone grunting and nodding off in his interview, as well. I don't think he is cognitively present during this interrogation and he should not have been interrogated so soon while he was still intoxicated.
He had over a .2 bac, he was almost certainly still drunk. The fact that he said he had nothing to say after finding out it was a homocide is impressive as is
Anne great point I thought the same. When the security guard said everything was grunts I was saying to myself, that's all he's doing here too....sad story.
Man what a nightmare situation. Head probably pounding from a hangover and finding out you killed your friend and don't even remember. That's a real live nightmare we just watched. I totally believe he don't remember too. I blacked out a few times and had people all mad at me and I really didn't remember I just felt guilty and didn't really know why
What really gets me is how terrible the attack must have been. Clearly, based on the photos at the end of the video, paramedics had to cut the chief's clothes off. Not just the shirt, but the pants, too. He must have been attacked all over. This man had to have been as wild as a chimpanzee. Grunting and everything. And he doesn't even know he did anything at all. Scary. 😨
A psychiatrist once told me, alcohol only removes your restraints, it doesn't change your tendencies or make you do something that's not already in you to begin with. For instance, people who become aggressive when drinking are aggressive by nature, but have it repressed in their day to day lives.
@@DjMeow lol the correlation is so slim between alcohol and doctors getting paid 🤣 how many people are in the hospital because of alcohol? 🤣🤣doctors will always be in demand and they will always be paid very well regardless of if alcohol is legal or not🤣🤣 I feel like you were just in the mood to mention capitalism 🤣🤣🤣
@@johnrice1943 I see all your comments about being able to handle drinking and drugs.....one day, you will eat your words. We all were able to in the beginning.
In 2016, I got absolutely shitfaced at a wedding while drinking with my brother in law. The last thing I remember was laughing and dancing and drinking with him then suddenly I was in the parking lot with my older cousin hours later in the dark. My cousin was telling me, "Hey, hey, just look at me man, look at me ok? Chill out, deep breaths, calm down dude. Just relax, breathe it out." I was absolutely furiously enraged at my brother in law but I didn't even know why. All I had in my head at that point was this looping thought that I needed to go back into the party and beat him to death. I blacked out again from there and woke up the next day with the worst hang over in my life in my cousin's room with his family. I have a super good and close relationship with my brother in law, to this day neither of us can remember what we started arguing about but apparently I completely snapped and started coming at him. My cousin, who was in the military and had experience handling drunk dudes, intervened and walked me out to the parking lot. It was one of the last times I ever drank in my life, I don't know what would have actually happened if my cousin hadn't been there but I can remember clearly that when I was in the parking lot all of my thoughts were on killing my brother in law. I'd never fought or attacked anyone while drunk before in my life, I'd have never thought I had that in me.
Ya' know, alcohol is referred to as "spirits" by some people and some cultures and I've heard things said like,"The devil is in that bottle for you" and things of that nature and can honestly say that alcohol like other intoxicant's is a gateway that definitely attracts demons to some people and it doesn't happen all the time, but I myself have had it proven to me on occasion but Definitely two where there was No doubt. Again, it's not called "spirits" for nothing and when that has been made apparent to someone, it's best to stay away from it Altogether, not one drop because I've Never gotten up any morning and said, "Glad I had a few last night" but have definitely said many times, "I'm Glad I Didn't drink last night" because Nobody Ever regrets Not having drank Ever!!
I’m happy that you are here and good. I’m also happy for the man who walked you off for some air. I lived with a man who was an alcoholic and had been most of his life. Didn’t drink everyday , more a binge drinker. One night he was so drunk that he claims that while myself and my band were playing a gig some guy was supposed to have said something about me and what he would like to do etc etc with me. Next thing we’re home and it’s 4 am and he just snapped. Beat the living shit out of me. I had never ever been struck by anyone. He had never been violent in the past. No physical abuse , just the anxiety of him going on binges. Once it happened then our lives fell apart pretty quickly. I remember when my partner was attacking me there was no one behind his eyes. Just blackness.
I ask the same question not for the detectives but for the person who made this video because he obviously assumes the killer’s reactions are “remorseless”. Well, he’s still drunk, duuuuhhhhhh....
Is it even legal to interrogate someone while they're still under the influence of intoxicants? Serious question, because I really don't know but if memory serves I believe I've heard in a few interrogations the detective ask the suspect if they are currently under the influence... You'd think if they had done it while he was still drunk the defense would've had the whole interrogation thrown out because of it.
@@NoHolllw well I guess ur probably right considering the one interrogation remember with the poor guy that was completely innocent and had been shot in the head and they even refused him medical attention for hours.... These are the types of things that make me so angry it shouldn't be admissable in court in my opinion. If you haven't seen the video I'm referring to you should definitely check it out poor young man ultimately ended up dying a few years later from complications probably because he was denied medical attention when there was very clearly something very wrong and he had already told the detectives that he was shot in the head and they literally made him sit there for hours, I can't even imagine the excruciating pain that he had to have went through! Pure torture, I never looked into it but I pray that those two imbeciles were fired and that his family were successfully able to sue that whole police department!! Warning lol if you haven't watched yet you'll Walk away just as enraged as I obviously am
I stayed at the hotel where several dozen of cops checked in, I'm guessing they had convention of sort. Once they went to their rooms and uniforms came off, all hell broke loose. Loud, disorderly, etc. No rules applied to them.
Yeah I worked at a golf course and the county next to ours had a police outing, I never so so much lawlessness on a golf course and damage, 2 were arrested for destroying a golf cart and trying to leave, it was like a field day for the state park police cops that came, thankfully they got in under control
It never ceases to amaze me just how much alcohol can change a person's whole personality. It just slows me down and makes me sleepy and so it's hard to understand how much rage and aggression some people have.
@@devra3762 You're right. It doesn't 'change' our personality, it's almost like a truth serum. It lowers our inhibitions so much that the real self comes out.
Same here, it makes me giggly, then sleepy. The friends I drank with were similar, just goofy fun, karaoke, food and shots in between. Didn’t know it hit people different til I met someone who would get angry, start arguments over dumb shit, and even get physical. Whew. Never drank with hard liquor strangers again. It’s a stupid idea anyway, but you’d think people know how they are and would be a little more responsible for themselves
My son told me “alcohol changes you, mom.” I began to pay attention and didn’t like what I saw. At all. I’ve been sober for 15 months now and refuse to touch the stuff ever again.
That's great!! I'm proud of you for making that decision for you and your son. My dad drank himself to an early grave when I was 12 and the trauma of it continues to affect my life to this day. Whenever I hear about someone getting sober (especially a parent) I just want to give them a big hug. Keep going!! 💜
@@Leahhunks Thank you for taking the time to comment. It feels amazing not having to worry about where my next buzz is coming from or if I have enough money to buy more alcohol.
@@pinsandneedles3 I am very sorry you lost your dad to alcohol. I will light an incense stick for you after I post this comment. I cannot fathom losing a parent to this liquid poison. I wish you healing and love and I accept and return your hug. May your days be brighter.
That man is in shock. No questions,he can't even fathom the thought of him hurting someone so close to him he honestly probably thought this was a prank.
@@pockamiYeah. The timing of his coughs and near complete lack of emotion after hearing of the murder makes me think he at least kind of had it in for this guy beforehand
I had to go to AA meetings in order to dig myself out of the hell I put myself into. I got to the point of almost feeling that black outs were a given. It was a vicious cycle of remorse, anxiety, depression and mania. Loneliness is closely connected with addiction but I now feel that the fewer people I dragged into hell the better.
About him not showing remorse (from a recovering alcoholic) if he was blacked out drunk on vodka, that guy is in absolute hangover HELL. In that state you haven't really come back to reality yet. Your brain is still trying to readjust. Trying to piece things together. The victims name, appearance, names of siblings, all feel like really old memories in that state. Not to mention being in complete denial about it because frankly, he didn't do anything...that he can remember. Everything happening to him in that moment feels more like watching a movie or having a weird dream. Of course he isn't going to have an emotional response yet. Another huge red flag: When he said he thought that going out "was a bad idea" This indicates he was reluctant to go, not wanting to go, making a person irritated for being somewhere they dont want to be. This will set a drunk person's mood for the entire night. The booze will keep exacerbating that irritation like gasoline on a flame. I'm conflicted about them giving him a life sentence for it though. I get it...but I feel conflicted. I can't make an argument against it either.
Exactly. I'm looking at this guy knowing 100 percent exactly how he is feeling in that moment and that is exactly how I would have responded. You're brain is extremely incapable of processing that much shit and it leaves you reeling trying to think about a million things at once. I could physically feel his hangover through the video. That man was in no way in control of himself that evening. There's a reason they call it stupid drunk, and the dumbest shit can set you off like you never expected. And these two were cops. Being the son of two police officers, I can confirm that the profession attracts a very aggressive personality type. You can't be timid and be an effective cop. Just a real tragedy for everyone involved.
This was really, really well described. I myself have been a binge drink drinker since 14 years old. (60 now) I literally go 1 month to 1 year without drinking. Then one day I just "feel" my drink coming on. The black outs are exactly that. No amount of trying to remember what happened is possible. You describe the disassociation perfectly. Very very scary.
@@toidIllorTAmI Excuse me? At what point in my comment did I mention blacking out? You don't have to be blacked out to make disturbingly bad decisions, it requires an entire cocktail (pun intended) of extenuating circumstances. Been there, lived the same life. I hope if you make a tragically bad series of decisions that lead to your committing an act that will forever darken your life, someone who knows nothing about what you're going through doesn't try to step up and judge you. Peace.
13:12 Never in this history of police interrogations does it ever “suck just as much for us” as it does for the guy handcuffed to the table, naked under a hospital gown. 🤨
I don’t think he’s lying, I just think he was absolutely blackout drunk. These things are not unheard of and this is just based off my experience seeing how out-of-mind crazy people get…
There are plenty of people in jail because of crimes committed while intoxicated and have no recollection of doing anything. I was in AA for a while and heard similar stories and nobody in the rooms was shocked except some of the newcomers, blackout drinking is scary, thank God I never ended up in jail but I certainly upset a few people, it's horrible finding out how you've been the night before from others.
I Knew it was passed time to quit drinking, when I beat up my sisters xmas tree and broke her coffee table. 🤣6 years sober and loving life and xmas trees🤣
Lucky was a very helpful and funny guy. I worked with him in law enforcement. He worked for stroud, and I worked in prague about 18 miles apart. He was always full of jokes and funny comments about everything. I, along with the rest of the lincoln County police officers, were and still remain in shock as to what has transpired with all of this. God help his wife and kids.
Are these little funded communities? Not sure why 2 grown men would share a room unless funding was a issue. I'd have said no just based off the size of the one guy. He no doubt is a snorer and I don't like hearing that as a light sleeper. Or was this homosexual advances and the dude turned him down? So far this video hasn't shed any lights on it. Maybe in the last minute they'll say something. RIP bro and condolences to his family and friends and yourself. He seemed like a genuine dude and a loved and respected police officer
In US it's makes a harder case for the state but the dumb cops do it anyways. If they were smart they would wait until he sobers up so he can't use that as a defense
I know a guy who had been to prison for murder. The judge asked him what happened and he said he just don’t know. He woke up and his gf was dead lying next to him. He even pleaded guilty. He didn’t get life but he stopped drinking even when he got out. Sad situation.
I literally can’t tell you how many times I’ve blacked out from drugs and alcohol. Thank God nothing ever happen to hurt myself or ,god forbid, someone else. It seriously effects my memory to this day. I can see something happening and having absolutely no recollection, but this guy seems like he remembers some things that he isn’t letting on.
but the issue is at what point can we hold the government responsible for this?... selling a known subtance that can make you not know what youre doing and put you in a dream state?... change needs to happen for accesability to booze. have fun refining ur own, gonna be gritty makin toilet wine
Good Lord this was a rough one to watch because he genuinely seems like he is still totally intoxicated and in shock, sleep deprived, etc. i feel for him because I’m damn near 13 years sober and this is something that alcoholic folks worry about.
“ I feel for him” he just murdered his boss and best friend. Are you stupid? Hope he Rotts in hell with immense guilt. Alcoholics should be euthanized by default.
I guess it’s because I’m an alcoholic and addict, but this is probably the first time I’ve ever felt bad for someone who took another life. When he gets sober he might remember more. What a terrible situation.
I heard a program that said they now believe in the case of a blackout drunk it’s not that you can’t recall the memory but that when you’re that intoxicated your brain isn’t even creating/storing a memory to be able to recall.
Does anyone else find it odd that a man beat another grown man to death with his bare hands but has no signs of a struggle on his body. He himself during the interview expressed confusion since his hands showed no signs of this happening. Also, I would think his face and body would show some signs of a struggle/fight. Maybe this video just didn't cover those details, but that aspect definitely struck me as strange.
Do you know why it struck you as strange? It's because you're watching 🎭🎭🎭. This event is well-known to have been a psyop. Its point was to induce even more fear in the population than there is already. A fearful population is easier to control.
@Skelter maybe if you suffocate or strangle someone who's already unconscious. But attempting to strangle a grown man who's fighting back will result in marks on the hands of the attacker. Something doesn't quite add up here. 🤷🏽♂️
Wow, I think many of us know that feeling the morning after where we're like "I hope I didn't say anything inappropriate or I hope I wasn't too loud or annoying" etc etc. But imagine being told you'd murdered someone! I'm unsure if he's genuine but although I'm not a big drinker myself I have had those odd occasions where people have reminded me of things I've said and I've been mortified. It lowers your inhibitions so much, some people become totally different on it and behave in the worst way. But this is next level beer fear.
it's so hard to imagine as I never really experienced anything like this, but watching that cop's body language and keeps asking what happened, he truly doesn't know what happened. 😰
I agree. I am mostly a happy drunk and super mushy. So embarrassing mostly. But this is on a level that is so incomprehensible…but drunkenness can lead to anything.
@@machshfive it's sort of like a dream when you first wake up, you can kind of remember what was going on but the details are fuzzy or gone altogether. Difference is someone else saw the dream as well and can remind you what happened, and you just gotta hope you didn't do something terrible.
@@lindahandley5267 I agree lol. I am very happy when I am drunk. But emotionally, I can see where I could swing the other way because you’re not right. But default, too happy 😆. “Sir, you’re in jail for hugging random people”.
@@antman6707 Alcoholism runs wild in both the military and first responders because we see so much of the nasty side of humans. Alcoholism atleast while I was in the military was something that helped me forget. I cant image the police not trying to have outlets for the type of stress they encounter. So unless they are into illegal substances Alcohol is really the only mind altering substance that provides that service. Thus leading to a higher amount of domestic violence and driving under the influence.
@@chasingthefish9042 thank you for everything u do for us! I truly appreciate and back all police paramedics and military members! You all put your own lives on the line for such ungrateful people and do not even hesitate, you are truly the best of us! God bless and keep you safe always ❤️❤️❤️
I used to be a black out binge drinker. I was out of control once the bottle hit my lips. I couldn’t put it down. I would get excited at the thought of getting so incoherent I couldn’t form a sentence or stand up by myself without falling to my face. One time my best friend told me, I got up out of my chair in my room(she was on my bed), and I raised my drink, and fell flat like a board backwards. Got up laughing. Another time I broke my chair, woke up and was stunned, I said “who the fuck broke my chair!?” She was like “it was you mang! You fell back into the wall with it!” Some funny times, but let me know tell you, waking up not remembering stuff is not fun. It’s downright terrifying. I haven’t had a sip of alcohol in over a year, but I haven’t blacked out or gotten hammered in yearsss. PRAISE GOD! I don’t like alcohol for me.
- Man this hits home, My best friend used to black out drink and was into getting in fights and if I hadn't stopped him from finishing a guy off he'd of had an episode like this. Alcohol is such a weird drug, I can't think of many other like that can make genuinely caring people just give into their most barbaric and violent instincts.
Alkohol doesn’t make anybody do anything. It strips away the veil of restraint and lowers inhibition. And when that happens, out come all our underlying issues. When I used to get really drunk (hardly ever happenes anymore thank everything ) I would either go into hyper people pleaser mode (not being able to say no to anything... NOT good) or I would dissolve into a self-pitying mess. Never have I yelled at or gotten into a physical altercation with another person. If one turns into a raging maniac when drunk I would assume one has some pretty deep seated anger and self-esteem issues that should really be addressed in therapy. I hope your friend has gotten some help for his hurt ❤️
drinking is like a rubber band. Some drink (stretch the rubber band) and have no consequence others drink (break the rubber band) and blackout. I’m not a Dr but I believe once your rubber band is broken it can never stretch again. Sad story
For him to lose this much memory when drinking I would bet every dime I have that many friends AND RELATIVES have said to him, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID (OR SAID) LAST NIGHT!! No doubt his wife has threatened to leave and/or divorce him. There's no way this is the 1st time he's heard something like this. Maybe not for murder, but other shocking behavior for sure.
Not necessarily. When going out I used to drink obviously but I never got drunk to a point where I would forget a thing. Then one night I believe I just had my usual (approximately) and got so drunk that I couldn't remember the entire night. People showed me pictures and I have absolutely no clue when what happened. and wasn't even able to go home with the other people because I couldn't walk and I just slept inside a heated train station. Naturally I was extremely embarrassed when I woke up the next day but I still have no idea how it got so bad so quickly just that one single night.
I wondered about this. The wife of the deceased only expressed confusion over it (at least that's all that we got from the video). If he had a history of this behavior it seems like something she or others would have expressed, and likely would have been mentioned in the video (if the producer had that info). Maybe he was typically a beer drinker and his buddy's vodka took him to another place.
I feel sorrow for the family of the victim, but also for the attacker. You can tell he genuinely didn’t know what he’d even done. It doesn’t excuse him from responsibility, but it’s still sad.
I knew a kid in college who was in the honors program and after 8 shots he saw bricks sticking out of the corner of a dorm building 6 stories high alternating on each side and he climbed up the building and then found the door to the building up there locked. Some cops saw him up there and went up the stairwell and he went crazy being unable to open the door and grabbed a fire extinguisher and assaulted the cops with it and ran down the stairs. They caught him trying to cross the street and The University of Akron had him sign in 10 minutes before a class and 20 minutes after a class and was unallowed to be on the campus otherwise the rest of the semester and he left the university for elsewhere. Great guy. Quiet and shy around women, but totally great in conversation with guys and never a curse word or anything you'd call disrespectful. He just was terrible on 8 shots of liquor.
I don’t feel sorry for him. Strange that he remembers every other detail including calling his wife, buying the booze and where they bought, what time they bought it, the chief wanting to go out but he didn’t including the actual conversation…he remembers everything other than the actual drunken “blackout” murder. He doesn’t seem surprised or upset about killing his chief. Seems to me he’s preparing his defence is all.
Why would 2 guys rent a hotel room, in or near their own town, to drink and watch football? They were more than buddies....and probably that's what the beating was about.
Lots of people in the comments have recalled drunken stories and many of them sound like they’re giving this man a pass because “alcohol is a hell of a drug” but he gets no pass from me simply because he had a choice to not get shit faced before he got shit faced but he chose to keep drinking and the outcome was murder. I’m glad he got life and I hope the family has been strong enough to keep going and live productive lives.
I kind of feel bad for him. He was the one who drank so much that he blacked out and that is 100% on him. But, I can’t imagine waking up and sobering up to the realization that I killed someone who was practically family. I totally understand his reaction. I don’t think he was trying to hide anything. It’s genuine shock in my opinion.
I agree. Especially being trained to not be emotional on top of maybe who he is as a person. I’d be curious to listen to his trial. Is there more to the story or did this man literally make the worst mistake of his life?
I feel that in a way, of course he has to be responsibke for what he did, but he wouldnt have done it without booze. Not an excuse but an explaination.
Alcohol alcohol has been legal since the ending of prohibition. The lubricant of the court system. When I was younger my friend and I were got drunk. I stole a car got into a high speed chase. Drive on train tracks and ended up behind a hotel shooting a gun in a parking lot. I had his dog on a leash and when we got surrounded by police I wouldn’t let go of the leash. Until the blinded me with lights and tackled me. We spent some time in jail. When released I changed my life. My friend whoever wasn’t capable. He went on to commit suicide one day when he was by the lake getting drunk and was chased by police. He jumped into the lake knowing he couldn’t swim. They pulled him out a few hours later when they found his body. Rip Wade I’m sorry I wasn’t able to help you. Alcohol is a demon in liquid form.
RIP Wade, even though I don't know you guys I feel bad for you, him, his family and friends. Jail, drugs and booze can fuck you up mentally. I did 5 years in prison and came out super aggressive and worst. Eventually got my shit together, but a lot of people never get right mentally when they're living that life. Sorry again for your loss, glad you're alive
Thank you so much I listen to your videos doing my housework 😁 Ill admit sometimes I get a little freaked out being here alone The time it must take to make these is very much appreciated 👍
Little research into this case. Michael Nealy had a blood alcohol level of .294, Lucky Miller had a blood alcohol level of .334 at the time of his death. These 2 were extremely drunk. Please people if you are going to drink, drink safely. Don’t drive.
.15 is proper drunk... .334 is absolutely shitfaced almost to the level of needing hospitalisation. Ive been that drink before a few times and let me tell you, you cant even really be considered conscious.. you're literally like 5 brain cells in control of a human body.
I love the random "Don't drive" at the end for a case that had no vehicles involved 🤣I mean I get the sentiment, just funny. I would expect like "Drink in moderation and never when alone with only one other person" instead. I just imagine "Man stabbed in neck by suspect armed with scissors" and you being like "Be safe when you're out and about. Don't run with scissors."
I remember being in my twenties and going for drinks with some friends from the place I was working at the time. It ended up just me and another guy. We drank all night and ended up having a lock-in at the pub, so the landlord gave us a room to stay in. He kept talking s--- about someone we worked with who was gay specifically because he was gay. He kept going on and on about how disgusting he was, and after a while I just said to him that maybe he has an issue because he's got some feelings that he doesn't understand. He grabbed me by the throat and started to choke me out. At first I thought he was playing around, but I could see in his eyes he was serious. I got him off me and beat and kicked him pretty badly, and once I got the landlord to unlock the doors, I walked home. When I think back, I don't understand why that wasn't the moment I stopped drinking altogether. I stopped almost 6 months ago and I don't think I'll ever let another drop of alcohol past my lips.
his "hmm" and "huh" is so annoying it wouldn`t surprise me if he was doing that all night and the chief told him to shut the hell up, and that set this loser off.
Not sure what happened to subtitles during the final third of the video but if you press CC, you will get subtitles.
Thank you, I depend on Mels as a older senior citizen
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Thank you! I hate the videos that people don't take the time to subtitle. That's why I watch your channel. Because you take the time.
As of January 1 2023, In Illinois, 2nd degree murder will be a no bail and criminal will be released in 24 hours...look into the new Chicago laws
@@terrie0869 for the future, you can click the three dots next to your comment and click "edit" if you've made a typo
I literally quit drinking after watching this interrogation. Saw it over 6 months ago for the first time. I've had many blackout nights due to alcohol and I just never want to wake up someday and realize I've done something like this. I watch this interview from time to time to remind me never to drink again.
Good on you. I Think quitting all the time, yet I had 2 teeth pulled today but Im drunk.
Really this is what stopped you ? Not the millions and millions killed by dwi drivers like entire family babies small kids innocent people but the cop cha get tour mind I guess that's great news but I figured all the above would had been more of a reason
@@AutismMaMa123 I suppose you don't get to choose what motivates someone else.
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Don't be that way! You can still drink and be responsible. Come on, just one more drink won't hurt anyone... JK, DON'T LISTEN TO ME!
I have a long time friend since high school who always had a drinking problem / blackout drunk. He would start fights, argue, misbehave, get thrown out of venues, destroy house parties and it got to the point he wasn’t invited anywhere…then in the early 21 century when smart phones came along Someone filmed him on a night out to show him what he was like. He joined AA, got a shrink and never drank again. It was a miracle he was never arrested or killed someone.
great story, seeing you self drunk (even if you are fine) is never fun.
Good thing he had the ability to show humility and vulnerability in that situation. Likely saved his life. A narcissist would've refused to even watch the video of themselves.
Madness I was the same when I was younger always scrapping and having blackouts…you know I only ever had the blackouts from drinking vodka.I wasn’t always getting drunk by the way just now and than like you know.I actually hate drinking and don’t do it anymore.hate the feeling the next day for one but always looked back on my night out and felt ashamed because I used to do some messed up stuff.think I was lucky to be honest.I had fights on doormen and all sorts man.I also lost a lot of friends because of fighting all the time.
Yeah, Thank God for that damn
One of my neighbors was like that.
Been there
I'm sure his head is still quite clouded from the booze. I'm a recovering alcoholic and I thank God that I didn't kill anyone accidentally or intentionally when I was at my worst. This was always my biggest fear is waking up in the morning and finding out terrible news like this. Thoughts and prayers for the victim and his family
Thanks for all the likes and comments . Weather the comments were positive or negative it's good to talk about it and I wish everyone the best and good luck in your life's journey
U had thoughts and fears like that and continued to drink?
That is mind blowing
@@Bubbles99718 same here..alcohol is called spirits for a reason..im 2 years clean and been in many situations where i woke up in jail with no memory..or had friends tell me i did things i WOULD NEVER do sober
@@Bubbles99718 I also am aware of lung cancer but still smoke. Addiction is a disease
Im sure those 2 had a few too many drinks and had a scuffle that got out of hand..this is sad
@@drayda0 glad you got two years sober . Keep up the good work and god bless you
Truly sad for everyone involved! I myself was a blackout drinker and am so thankful I stopped years ago. So many nights of thinking I was having a good time and then the memories just stopped and I'd wake up in an unfamiliar place or with minor injuries not having a clue! Trying to explain what truly blacking out to someone feels like is almost impossible. Be thankful if you've never experienced it.
yup
@@psilocybemusashi Ditto.
Alcohol is a hell of a drug.
People underestimate it because it’s legal. I usually just end up being obnoxious and playing video games poorly, but I’m a full grown man, and it’s naive for me or anyone to think they’re incapable of making a terrible decision when they’re completely shitfaced.
What’s saddest is, in his career, he probably had tons of cases that revealed to him what people do when they’re too drunk and didn’t learn from it.
Problem is like you've said we always think it could never happen to us, until it does and it's too late.
Yes, people lose perspective because it’s legal. Unfortunately there’s no denying that alcohol is the worst drug by far when it comes to overall negative impacts on society, including violent crimes and deaths.
It’s funny when _we all know what the right thing is_ but it really just depends on who is put in the position to make poor/easy choices that leads to something this bad.
Everyone knows smoking is unhealthy, but so many of us have tried it. We’re walking hypocrites, all of us…
Muskrat.
Couldn't agree more in all you stated.
Alcohol can ruin lives just as much as any other drug.
Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it is safe, maybe even more dangerous and lethal than some illegal drugs.
So sad, this case is. Don't think though that LWP is really a right sentence in this case.
This man has to live with the guilt of killing his friend for the rest of his life. That's gonna be daily hell for him.
Booze and being drunk is no excuse for being stupid, or making stupid decisions either. Drunk, sober, when you do the crime you will do the time and no jury will feel sorry for someone claiming it was the drugs, or the booze that did it. My opinion, an acid wash should be allowed over the hands of murderers like this one so not only will he not be able to do what he did, but wont ever pick up a drink again. Harsh?...no. That is called an eye for an eye because you cannot bring back the dead, so might as well make the bastard who did the crime suffer...and suffer...and suffer more.
Looks to me that the guy is still relatively inebriated and has found himself in a situation far from his comfort zone. Drunk, in a gown, and the shock of being told what he's done has really thrown his perception of reality for a loop.
The officer giving the questions stated he will advise him of his rights but I did not hear him actually read him the rights. Or I might’ve missed it but I don’t think I did.
@@stevemendez3535 it was edited out so that this isn’t an unnecessarily long video.
Never drink around violent or dangerous people. There isn’t an amount of alcohol that would make me act like this.
Why is he in a gown
@@debibelden906 • The cops probably took his clothing into evidence, blood spattered and other things like that.
I had an old roommate who would literally get so drunk she wouldn't remember stuff she did . Most of it being starting fights , yelling and screaming , busting things and the next day have zero recollection. If you ask me , people like this shouldn't drink . Period. This story is so heart breaking for both families.
nobody should drink :D The most dangerous drug of them all yet its legal and advertised in tv lmao
Some people use "cloudy mind" as an escape to say that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions or lack thereof. If they did, they fkn did it.
Why’s it heartbreaking for this guys family ? He killed someone because he was drunk and white it’s an excuse or what?
@@808kicks2 And how would you think his FAMILY is involved in that? First of, are you a child? Seems you haven't developed fully yet...
@@808kicks2 are you serious killed somebody because he's white? Please
You can tell the suspect is accepting the situation and isn’t showing remorse because he’s most likely nursing a hangover, the shock and legitimately doesn’t know what happened.
He’s playing along because he cares more about being told what happened above trying to get out of the situation.
If you look at the time stamp it’s still early morning (6am) and they had been drinking heavily.
Anyone whose had a hangover knows that you can go to sleep at 12 and be sick as a dog waking up at 10.
He's still hungover
Yeah it’s possible. And it seems cold and evil, but your body is so drained and destroyed that you just can’t process information and emotions correctly.
This happens in the hood all the time.people go for life not knowing what they did.But not an excuse.grill him!
I disagree. I think he remembers some thing but is so hungover he doesn't really care. He just wants to sleep or drink more to feel better.
right. and likely still tipsy
I always taught my son that it's easier to stay clean than to get clean! Most of the time this statement could apply to drugs, it can also apply to alcohol. Anything that exercises authority over you, even food addictions, can take you for a ride you don't want to be in.
alcohol IS a very hard drug, probably somewhere on the level of cocaine, certainly harder than weed or tobacco. It's both very psychoactive and very addictive. The only reason it's legal is because it was way too difficult to make it illegal.
Excellent points made!
Alchohol is a drug hell sugar is a drug
Alcohol is a drug, a drug is a mind altering substance.
You really come off as a bitch in that comment. Guess what for those without the money for help or who are hopeless alcohol is a life saver. There are certain psychiatric and socioeconomic aspects to drinking. People with PTSD and depression are prone to drinking. Trauma that goes hand in hand with poverty. Don't lecture people, don't make proclamations explaining these. It's real easy to be a back seat driver. Your name, and grinning photo of a middle aged Karen.
Former blackout drinker here sober almost 4 years now. I have had mornings where I had zero recollection of the previous nights events. I’m so grateful I have my sobriety and made it through (by the Grace of God) without killing someone else or myself.
Ditto 34 years sober
I'm 4.5 yrs sober. Good for you!
Good karma for you and a healthy happy life
@@charlesreid3482 good work brother
3 years sober. Alcohol sucks. It destroys lives and families and futures & friendships & marriages. I’m ashamed of my past behavior. I prayed to God to help me. I hate alcohol & drugs.
Such a sad story. To hear you've murdered your best friend must be an absolute nightmare.
Lover*
You'd think but he seems rather unaffected by his friends death. Almost like he's bored.
I've had friends in life who were blackout drinkers. They're in disbelief when you tell them what an obnoxious asshole they were the night before. They get all embarrassed and apologetic, and then do it again a few nights later.
alcohol brings out the real person , not the person we pretend to be
Me too. Alcohol hits some people VERY differently.
@@fullshark09 A lot become mean!
@@travelsouthafrica5048 That is so not true 🤣
@@HolyEcoly actually it is , in fact it was common knowledge in the roman era already , they often used alcohol to get the truth out of their adversaries , where do you think the saying, in vino veritas , comes from
Giving up alcohol is the best decision I ever made. I've blacked out several times, and that is exactly what caused me to give it up. I've never been in a situation like this man, but I can definitely understand how he is feeling. Absolutely not worth it.
I agree. The worst feeling is not knowing what you did but guessing it was stupid and embarrassing. Maybe not murder but definitely humiliating. I finally was done choosing that chaos over and over also.
@@nancyleehampton8 same here. Having to ask everyone I was around what I did got old quick.
@fluke dog crazy how much better and clear minded it makes you feel.
21 years sober, got tired of asking every morning if I needed to apologize for my behavior
@@dianesullivan1047 so true!
His "lack of remorse or sympathy" and that he hasn't asked for a lawyer is probably due to the fact that less than 12 hours before, he was so wasted that he beat one of his friends and boss to death and doesn't remember it and hasn't slept since then. The time says 6:40 am- he's either still very intoxicated or the hangover has started (and he'd likely still be kind of spinning and not thinking normally). There's a reason he keeps grunting and looking like he's falling asleep or has his eyes closed- he's likely fighting passing out, at least a few times. I doubt many others in his position would do much better. Without sleeping it off at least somewhat, the transition from drunk to hungover can be just as affective to your thinking and motor functions. You can still veryvmuch black out during this stage.
mommy2,
Agree! Thought of that myself.
Exactly that passed me off for some reason. Idk this is a very strange one where I find sympathy with the victim and perpetrator equally
Nah, it’s probably because he’s a soulless psychopath.
@@frocurl that’s ridiculous. This guy saying “I told him I didn’t want to go out, it was a bad idea to go out” literally victim blaming. Fwiw a life sentence indicates more then negligent homicide or manslaughter.
@@teddyjackson1902 no! They asked him what he could remember and in his mind he knows not a good idea to go to a bar. He doesn’t remember being mad about any of that. He didn’t really know what time they started watching the game think about that! Geez oh Pete! Uuuggg
Legend has it that Mike is still grunting “hm” at this moment.
😂
"you're lucky to be sitting in this interrogation room cus the rest of the world was destroyed by an asteroid!!"
"hm."
And shaking his head, repeating "I can't believe it"
😂
@@JimL2883 hm
After blacking out and walking up in jail several times myself without memory this is basically every bad drunks worst nightmare
My grandma always tells me "the devil will take you down deeper than you want to go, and keep you longer than you want to stay". As someone who was once an alcoholic I can see getting to a point of no return and having that shame and shock the next morning while being told the things I had done and the things that would come back that had happened. It's a terrifying feeling. I'm glad that I never killed anyone, its about the only thing I didn't do while intoxicated. My heart goes out to the victim and his family and my heart goes out to the guy and his family. I hope they can find it in them to forgive him so this isn't ruining their lives. It's hard to heal when someone you love passes away normally, I couldn't imagine losing someone I love in this manner. Tragic,tragic case.
Try LSD some time... you are locked in to feeling crazy for the next 24+ hours.
As a former Alcoholic, I can relate to your post (OP)
This rings true of most every vice. One way or another, you’re dancing with the devil. You _think_ you’re in control.
That’s the allure of evil. We think we can have our vices and still be okay. Like somehow we’re special.
Humility is learning the hard way that we are not.
And I am a humanist, a human, and a spiritual being having a human experience. ‘God’ is dead.
Edit: Sincerely,
Not a Christian.
You're only an alcoholic if you admit to it.
Not religious but that is an incredible ideom to take into life
Imagine partying with your close friend one moment, and then the next thing you know, you're in jail for beating him to death. That's just insane
Imagine partying with your close friend one moment then the next moment you are murdered by said "friend" and people are making comments as if HE'S the Victim here.
Yeah I’m not sure I buy the “ I blacked out “ that’s pretty convenient
@@myliza700doesn’t sound like he’s making the man out to be a victim to me. Just acknowledging how quickly things got out of hand and how serious the consequences are
Alcohol effects everyone differently. So many factors play huge part
whats insane is that he probably wanted to do that already. Theres a reason why we have a "limit" and alcohol usually makes us do what we already want to do, specially if someone triggers you while you try to fight the urge to smash that bishes head with the lamp till he stops talking. But thats not the higher brain, its the one based on urges and instinct. Not one based on intelligent thought processes. But then again if you're literally dumber than a box of rocks, your control is already very small, put booze on it and then thats a mountain of gun powder with a flare sticking out of it waiting to blow
I was once told a story about a guy who woke up in jail after a night of heavy drinking - he thought he’d been booked for urinating in public, but it turned out to be homicide. This video makes me shudder for a million reasons
omg
I have sometime on my hands. Can you please tell me the million reasons? Would be great.
Smooth brain.
Sounds like a crazy night out, definitely need a Gatorade
But weed is illegal in most states
I’m in a rehab myself right now and easily could’ve ended up in a similar situation. 25 years old and blacking out nightly- boozin it up never helped with anything but certainly sent me into a downward spiral. Thank god the VA helped me out and got me somewhere
It takes a lot of courage to receive help. GOD bless you. Keep on Fighting the good fight 💪🏽❤️
why would you kill someone?
Good luck to you. Hope
@@christoth2705 I don't know if you have been told, but people tend to make horrible choices when they're drunk. "Why would you kill someone?" For any number of reasons that may or may not make sense in that state. It's easier to prevent the state than to trust yourself in it.
@@christoth2705 a stupid take
Anyone who has blacked out then told in the morning that they did something crazy understands his reaction. You think you know yourself and you get proof that you did something you thought you'd never do and it just causes insane cognitive dissonance.
Thankfully for most of us we don't kill our friend.
Exactly. I've completely blacked out and remember nothing. I can see how this happened 100%
I’ve been there. I recorded myself singing once while black out and saw it when I woke up. Zero recollection. Quickly deleted it, embarrassed. Alcohol is dangerous. You’re there but you’re really not. Same with Benzos
@@seezkar9162 I can't tell you how many times I posted to social media drunk and woke up and erased it because I was embarrassed AF 😭🤣 agreed!
@@seezkar9162 benzos are actually worse because they can make you appear to be more or less sober even while you're blacked out. Being drunk enough to be blacked out means you're not going to have very good balance or coordination, but you can be blacked out on benzos and walk like a sober person.
@@13ritneyanne We're talking about MURDER here you m o r o n s !!!!
He's probably acting the way he is not because of shock but because he's hungover as hell.
This is one of the most bizarre interrogations I've ever seen. I can't imagine being told you did something unthinkable while having no knowledge of the event.
Night terrors
Although I've never murdered anyone, I've been that black out drunk in my early 20s. It's also why I quit drinking.
Yes it is very bizarre circumstances especially if he has absolutely no recollection of it but I'm sure he actually does remember some things
If you're caught redhanded , this is probably the best defense while showing you're cooperating.
@@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI in our country it doesn't. being drunk is an addtional charge, so you will get more.
Honestly it was very perceptive of the guests next door to call back down the the front desk after it got quiet. They could have just thought to themselves “finally they settled down,” and just gone on with their night. But instead they felt something was wrong about it and acted on it.
Ya real Sherlock’s. Let’s see “ STOP MIKE” “STOP” after complaining about the noise. Then suddenly goes quite. Yep real perception. Lol
@@r.c.l2569 so edgy. Tic tac is right. I work at a hotel and some guests will complain of noise complaints and then call right back to the front saying it "quited" down and there's no need for further action.
@@r.c.l2569 lmao you must be a real treat to be around
I think they knew two men were fighting by the sound of it. It would be a little eerie if you heard a fight going on next door, a dude shouting “Mike stop,” and then silence 😂
Wild observation bc yea if it was me I would have thought they finally quieted down or left or fell asleep or something
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This is a crazy one. I believe him when he says he doesn’t remember. Sad for everyone, and it’s evidence that alcohol is potentially the worst drug of all
Potentially, hahahaha. NOTHING good EVER came from the social lubricant of the world.
It's the cause, and solution to, all life's problems. Lol but seriously i wish it didn't exist.
This is terrifying. I used to drink until I would blackout and I wouldn’t remember a single thing that I did no matter how hard I tried to remember. I would turn into a demon when I got that drunk and do terrible things. My girlfriend recorded me one night and showed me the next morning how I was in that state. I immediately called that day to set up an appointment with a therapist and vowed to do everything in my power to stop drinking. It’s a miracle I didn’t die or end up in jail. I used to drink everyday and blackout once every other week. I haven’t had a single drink since then. I just passed one year sober and I can tell you I’m never going back. I went to therapy and addressed all the things that made me drink. Therapy is a miracle. God gave me a second chance. Let this video be a lesson to everyone that drinks to the point of blacking out.
"Therapy is a miracle. God gave me a second chance."
Your therapist:
The drink isn't the problem you are
Good job dude
@@2511jeremy ?? what’s the point in this comment? are you denying the overwhelming evidence of how much alcohol affects your psychology? he stopped drinking so how is he the problem for acknowledging it?
@@deanyboy234 by overwhelming evidence you meen a tone of people who use alcohol as the reason they treat people like garbage
Ok, I grew up with Lucky. Known him my entire life. We were friends all through school, and his family and my family are very close. Many days spent on the ball field as well as the lake together, and other activities. He was a good man, a great cop and overall well respected member of the community. I was asked to write a victims statement for sentencing, which I did so gladly but painfully. I’ve fallowed this case very closely. Here’s the thing- he can remember every detail they ask about that day, except killing a friend and coworker. I’m not buying it. Not one bit. What I do know is Lucky was a scrappy dude. He would not be able to take easily. Something g happened in that room, and only God and Mike knows. Please all I ask is be respectful. Lucky was a very close friend and a good man with a family.
Edit. I’ve seen this interrogation many times. I forgot to mention the most compelling thing is when they tell him Lucky is dead he doesn’t even ask what happened. Because he knows. Can’t convince me otherwise.
You have every right to feel the way you do he was your friend, I'm sorry for your loss i hope one day you and the family will find the answers you're looking for . God bless.
I’m sorry for the loss of your friend and also feel awful for his family too.
And I agree with what you said. It was just the first thing I thought after they answered his question about who had died. That he didn’t say anything about it at all is just so unnatural to the way most people would respond in the same situation. I think he remembers far more than he’s letting on. It’s a bizarre way to respond either way.
@@oktoberina thank you. Him being a detective he knows they have him dead to rights. He was the only one in the room. He knew his best defense was to just claim he doesn’t remember. I just can’t get past that he knew where they ate, and all that, but not killing Lucky. I have read the entire trial transcripts. They were both on the phone at one point taking to family and everything was fine. It just makes no sense how it got to that.
IDK. I have blacked out, lost my car and ended up 10 miles away from the bar I was drinking at, woke up on the sofa in a hotel lounge. i had no idea how I got there but I remembered everything that happened before I started drinking. Alcohol is terrible and should not be legal. Sorry for your loss.
He does ask what happened, 6 min in
I love how numerous channels including yourselves acknowledge JCS as inspiration. Respect to JCS! 👊
Who, or what is JCS?
JCS is a bunch of cry babies 👶
He’s the criminal psychologist who created these types of videos
@@heavyizthacrown-5842 JCS - Criminal Psychology is a youtube channel with similar content
@@heavyizthacrown-5842 Jim Can't Swim started this trend.
Imagine something like this happening and for the rest of your life, you have absolutely no recollection or memory of what you actually did..
A buddy of mine and me we're sitting at us house drinking and having a good time and the police detectives in the US Marshals knocked on the door and when he answered at they told him to put his hands behind his back. He was being arrested for vehicular homicide. I guess about eighteen months before the day that this happened he had been driving his truck on the way home from one of the parties he was at and thought he hit a deer and evidently it was a seventeen-year-old kid and not a deer. Took them 18 months and a massive amount of detective work to figure out that it was his truck. Crazy thing is I remember the day he said he thought he had a deer and I remember helping him clean his truck off not even knowing that he had killed somebody the night before. Here is the biggest drinker I've ever done in my life and now he's in jail of course but man that was the craziest turn of ever seen of anyone. He came from a great family of people who own businesses, bison farms, farms. Ect. He was set for life and his entire life was ruined because he blackout drank every night for years. To this day I tell this story to people who drink and drive. Hopefully it it's home to at least one person and actually matters you know. It was going to college for business management and about to graduate and start living life the way his parents were the most of his family were. They were pretty set!!!! I feel so bad Willow back on but I also feel so bad for Joe because he literally had no idea he didn't. I've never seen someone so devastated over anything in my entire life. What kind of crazy is my cousin was walking home from the bar in a different city and he was pretty far to the side though right out and somebody else who was at that same bar was driving on the road and went off the side of the road and killed my cousin and best couldn't have been even a year later. My saint and uncle sam's their other son were so devastated
@@Richtshn06 how long did he go to jail for that's crazy?
@@ElToristo 6 years bro. Never even had a speeding ticket just loved to drink. Never been in trouble. At all. Didn't do drugs or smoke pot. What are the nicest guys you'll ever meet but I mean when your blackout drunk driving nothing ever good is going to come of it. 😕 Fuck 6 years at 22 years old never being in trouble your whole life that six years feels like a hundred. On god,, 🤣
@@ElToristo it was kind of crazy thinking back cleaning the blood and hair off the front grill. Now I've known people who have killed people with their car and knew about it but he genuinely did not know that he done anything wrong.. it's sad.
He knows exactly what he did
I can't remember a single problem I've had in my life that didn't involve alcohol. Let this be a lesson to everyone. Quit the damn booze. I'm glad I did. My life has been on an upward trajectory ever since.
Congratulations for quitting the damn booze. I'm still working on it being broke works the best
They say "my worst day sober is better than my best day drunk".
@@tomtroy3792 that old a day at a time thing really works. Just make it through today and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I will tell you that the people you hang around make a big difference. Positive people change the game. Lastly don't beat yourself up if you mess up. When I was trying to quit I would be 6 beers in and then realize I fucked up. I'd stop right there and quit again. After a few months being sober will be normal, and life goes on. You got it man. You are bigger than alcohol.
Man, so true it’s just an evil evil substance. It can never make you better.
Me to
Recovering alcoholic here. To my fellow brothers & sisters struggling w/ alcohol abuse, keep coming back to meetings. To some, this very situation was our worst fear when awaking from a blackout, this was our morning anxiety day in & day out. Very tragic.
Take shots everytime dude says "Hmm". That should induce a blackout alright.
You have no will power, pathetic little man…
Thanks for the advice. Strange to me how some people become really violent when drunk. Seems to me like they might have deeper issues than just alcohol addiction.
same but I stay far far away from 12 step
@@salil7174 I read an article about this. Apparently they were four times the legal limit. that is a .32 which would take drinking fifteen drinks in an hour to achieve meaning if they didn't do that, they had even more than that to drink over a period of time. If you're not passed out (which would take some developed tolerance) you're not yourself at all. It's absolutely not an excuse, this cop is a cold-blooded killer who deserves to die in jail. However, violent outbursts are not uncommon at all with a BAC that high.
15 years of military service, I've lost count of how many people like this I've worked with. It's always the same story; as long as nobody gets hurt then no harm, no foul and it gets swept under the rug.
Well, here's what happens when somebody has to get hurt in order for action to be taken.
Thank you for your service
@@davidboydston8388 yuck
@@monkeytennis8861 What's wrong with thanking people who served for their country?
@@joebidengirlsniffer8337 he's probably one of those antiwar people
@@carterseanjohn you seem like a kinda person that's a special kinda stupid so go on man go get a job hippie
This is like the worst hangover
Me choosing to be an alcoholic pushed my wife to leave me. Don't drink to get drunk. You do things you would never do when you're sober. You can get some of the stuff you lost back. But the people you drove away you can never fully get them back.
Respect your humility and willingness to share. Best to you.
Drunk actions are sober thoughts
If you don’t drink to get drunk then why do you drink?
@@jakedaly7906 I think there's a difference to drink socially and have fun versus needing to drink regularly just to be happy.
@@HoloScope not always. I think typically that can be the case but sometimes people lose grasp of who they are when constantly under the influence
When my band went on tour's, our drummer had a substance problem. Drinking whiskey and coors every day. Snorting oxycontin, eat the gel inside fentsnyl patches. Xanax etc.
He was a fun happy drunk. He even managed to attract so many girls. No effort at all. Girls just flocked to him. Eye liner charisma and an androgynous look went a long way.
When oxys became scarce in 2007 he got into heroin. Started to self-destruct and lose everything.
2011 he got sober and stayed that way to this day. 2013 his first daughter was born. Little did he know that his heart got infected with endocarditis unbeknownst to him. Year after year, he got sicker and sicker. 2 months after his mom died, On his bday in 2020, he could no longer walk or breath. About 30 minutes after ems got him to the er, he went into a coma. Dying from severe heart failure, sepsis, anemia, adema, pneumonia, had a stroke, spleen ruptured. 5% chance of survival.
After about a month, he was put on do not resuscitate. 10 hours before plug was going to be pulled he woke up. Was on life support for months. Spent 6 months in icu. Had openheart surgery. Double valve replacement, 2 holes inside the heart closed, lungs drained several times and countless blood transfusions.
He had to learn how to sit up, stand and walk all over again. But he gave everything he had to get back to his 2 little daughters that were not allowed to visit because of covid.
That drummer was me. I'm sharing this story to hopefully reach someone who may need a reason to quit. One way or another, any form of substance abuse will eventually destroy your life. I though the worst was behind me but 9 years later, it tried to make me pay the price for my past. How I survived and came back with a full recovery is a mystery. I was giving a second chance and will never again take it for granted. Don't chance it like I did. Take the life and health you have now and protect it. Once you lose it, you're nothing but a fleeting memory in the minds of the few.
So glad you made it. I wish happiness for you and your daughters. God be with you all.
You idiot! God saved your butt! He intervened. Thank him morning, noon and night.
What a story!! Praise the Lord. Life is very short even when you take care of yourself. Please check out the saving Grace that has been offered to you by the sacrifice on the cross. You will then truly escape death forever. Please check it out. You deserve it!!!
Wow! This hit different 💯
“And when you lose it you’re nothing “… wow what another level comment and experience all that must have been. Just curious what you think brought your consciousness back online before going off machine support. Blessings to you
FYI: Michael Nealey’s BAC was .294 and the Chiefs BAC was .334 when the homicide occurred.
That’s insane
What's BAC?
@@jesjames blood alcohol content
Wow! Good info.
What would a legal limit be for driving? What range would it fall within after a couple of beers?
@@JackD87 bac 0.3 means 0.30% of the blood in weight is alcohol.
Driving limit is 0.04%, depends on where you live. Where I live it's 0.02 and .4 is potentially fatal for normal people. Basically if he didn't kill his chief, but they continued drinking, and didn't vomit enough, they'd possibly be dead for intoxication anyways. The chief is responsible for his own death even if he got beaten up by this guy.
It really depends on your weight, your body/liver, and how much you actually drink of course. But after a beer, maybe 0.02, after a couple maybe 0.1. Same amount of bac doesnt affect everyone the same way either.
I once saw a very close friend of 25yrs go after his mom in a blind drunkin' rage. I couldn't believe it, and when I step in between them he looked at me the same way. Saw his dad do it once as well... the term blind-drunk comes to mind, & rage seems to be a common companion.
Drunkin' Drunknuts
Anger drunk I know what you mean had a friend who’s quiet and reserve but when drunk is loud and wants to do damage for no reason
I grew up with a alcoholic dad and I’ve seen him drink so much that he drank himself sober. Til this day he still drinks it’s an addiction that he hasn’t even tried to battle.
@@BlazeEst in my travels I have met a couple people like that. They’re truly terrifying. It’s like they’re possessed like The Exorcist. Those experiences stuck with me bc I felt like I really saw the devil here on earth
@@GrowingwithAnastasia yea it’s so weird, chill reserved when sober but when drunk they have so much dangerous energy
This is such a very sad situation for the parties involved as well as their families. Once he comes all the way down reality will really set it and I truly hate this for them all. At the end of the day he in an adult and if you know you’re not a responsible drinker then don’t drink. If you know you have a limit then don’t surpass it. His actions took the life of his friend. Prayers to them all ❤
Alcohol and drugs seems to be the cause of majority of the problems in this country.
@@farzana6676 more like symptoms of a bigger problem. Happy people usually don't abuse substances
@@davidvoncken1319 Nah BS.
Perfectly happy people also take drugs and alcohol because they refuse to exercise personal responsibility.
@@davidvoncken1319I know loads happy ppl. Love to party once every few months nd enjoy a few tab or few lines.
not all that simple sometimes. Alcohol inhibits the thought process when intoxicated and lowers the mental reasoning someone has. You may not be a violent person and something may happen that triggers you and you do something terrible or just embarrassing. This is why alcohol and drugs can be so dangerous and why I quickly learned at a young age that I didn't want any part of them. For the most part though alcohol brings out a lot of how we already feel inside as you stated which is why its important as you put it to know your limit or try to be as cautious and responsible as possible.
I wonder how much of this interrogation can legally be used . He appears to still be under the influence. My condolences to the victim’s family.
@Buckwheat Hikes Yeah let's go with that.
@Buckwheat Hikes If it is fake why was he sentenced to life in prison? You are a puke
Plenty of options to beat a guy and not sustain injuries on your hands.
@Buckwheat Hikes . A former Oklahoma police detective has been sentenced to life in prison for killing his police chief in 2019 in a Pensacola Beach hotel room.
Michael Patrick Nealey, 50, was sentenced Thursday in the Nov. 10, 2019, death of Mannford (Oklahoma) Chief of Police Lucky Miller.
I bet you think that other guy won in 2020 too , right ?
Apparently, all of it ! I searched and found this information:
“ A former Oklahoma police detective has been sentenced to life in prison for killing his police chief in 2019 in a Pensacola Beach hotel room.
Michael Patrick Nealey, 50, was sentenced Thursday in the Nov. 10, 2019, death of Mannford (Oklahoma) Chief of Police Lucky Miller.
Wow.. I've had a full blackouts in my drinking life.. Absolutely NOTHING, no rousing of the memory, every detail is completely gone. To this day I still cringe at not knowing what I did, because in 2 cases, people started treating me very differently when I saw them again.. Nothing was said but you sense when you've done something. I can't imagine being told this but his reaction doesn't seem off to me at all.. It's sheer "I believe the words you're telling me but Its not real to me with no memory of it". Tragic story all round
I love not remembering
The same here. I used to drive all over Dallas/Ft. Worth blackout drunk and wake up in bed not remembering anything I'd done. Thank goodness I was able to walk away from that lifestyle. Amazingly, I never had any withdrawal symptoms or cravings to drink. I'm guessing there are different kinds of alcoholics.
Life is soooo beautiful when you don’t drink alcohol anymore. No hangovers, no headaches, no nausea, no regrets.
DEMONS possess people who never expected it. Drugs and/or alcohol opens the door for the evil SPIRITS to enter.
I pissed on the floor the one time I got blackout drunk
If it's truly 6am, the same morning, he'd still be intoxicated in this interrogation. So yes he's in shock, but even more so he's still drunk. You'd think they'd give him time to sober up before interrogating but what do I know
IV's work wonders , but I'm just a tamale maker, what do I know
A confession is a confession for the police, they don't care how they get it. I once was interrogated while still high on 2CB and K. In court I argued that this confession could not be trusted because I was under the influence. They didn't care one bit.
@@cesarakacees they work wonders for hangovers. They can't remove alcohol from your system.
Im sure theyll argue for it to be thrown out considering his mental state here and intoxication.
Nah they want him to talk and you do nothing better than talk when you're drunk, and it makes ya honest as well. Only problem is it can come back in court as a bad confession.
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Security guard comments that the only response he could get out of Nealey at the scene was "grunts" and his eyes were "barely open". Nealey did a lot of monotone grunting and nodding off in his interview, as well. I don't think he is cognitively present during this interrogation and he should not have been interrogated so soon while he was still intoxicated.
He had over a .2 bac, he was almost certainly still drunk. The fact that he said he had nothing to say after finding out it was a homocide is impressive as is
Anne great point I thought the same. When the security guard said everything was grunts I was saying to myself, that's all he's doing here too....sad story.
I absolutely agree.He was in no state of mind to be interrogated.
I agree but everyone else is. U get what you give,or get
Every drunk’s worst nightmare. The final price of deep addiction.
Man what a nightmare situation. Head probably pounding from a hangover and finding out you killed your friend and don't even remember. That's a real live nightmare we just watched. I totally believe he don't remember too. I blacked out a few times and had people all mad at me and I really didn't remember I just felt guilty and didn't really know why
What really gets me is how terrible the attack must have been. Clearly, based on the photos at the end of the video, paramedics had to cut the chief's clothes off. Not just the shirt, but the pants, too. He must have been attacked all over. This man had to have been as wild as a chimpanzee. Grunting and everything. And he doesn't even know he did anything at all. Scary. 😨
To be honest, it’s crazy that alcohol is legal due to how it can totally affect you to the point that you do things you have no memory of!!
A psychiatrist once told me, alcohol only removes your restraints, it doesn't change your tendencies or make you do something that's not already in you to begin with. For instance, people who become aggressive when drinking are aggressive by nature, but have it repressed in their day to day lives.
We tried prohibition. Does nothing.
Banning things seldom works, if it's something people really want to do. Education is better.
Let me introduce you to capitalism. Also doctors aren’t paid if people are healthy and well
@@DjMeow lol the correlation is so slim between alcohol and doctors getting paid 🤣 how many people are in the hospital because of alcohol? 🤣🤣doctors will always be in demand and they will always be paid very well regardless of if alcohol is legal or not🤣🤣 I feel like you were just in the mood to mention capitalism 🤣🤣🤣
It's nice to see a lot of other people who are sober from alcohol for many years like me!
I'm drinking while watching. I can handle my drugs/alcohol.
@@johnrice1943 that’s a messed up thing to say. And you have some bad karma for saying that now. What made you say that ?
@@johnrice1943
Your hands can handle drink and drugs- but can the rest of your body?
I won't touch another drop!
@@johnrice1943 I see all your comments about being able to handle drinking and drugs.....one day, you will eat your words. We all were able to in the beginning.
In 2016, I got absolutely shitfaced at a wedding while drinking with my brother in law. The last thing I remember was laughing and dancing and drinking with him then suddenly I was in the parking lot with my older cousin hours later in the dark. My cousin was telling me, "Hey, hey, just look at me man, look at me ok? Chill out, deep breaths, calm down dude. Just relax, breathe it out." I was absolutely furiously enraged at my brother in law but I didn't even know why. All I had in my head at that point was this looping thought that I needed to go back into the party and beat him to death. I blacked out again from there and woke up the next day with the worst hang over in my life in my cousin's room with his family. I have a super good and close relationship with my brother in law, to this day neither of us can remember what we started arguing about but apparently I completely snapped and started coming at him. My cousin, who was in the military and had experience handling drunk dudes, intervened and walked me out to the parking lot. It was one of the last times I ever drank in my life, I don't know what would have actually happened if my cousin hadn't been there but I can remember clearly that when I was in the parking lot all of my thoughts were on killing my brother in law. I'd never fought or attacked anyone while drunk before in my life, I'd have never thought I had that in me.
Ya' know, alcohol is referred to as "spirits" by some people and some cultures and I've heard things said like,"The devil is in that bottle for you" and things of that nature and can honestly say that alcohol like other intoxicant's is a gateway that definitely attracts demons to some people and it doesn't happen all the time, but I myself have had it proven to me on occasion but Definitely two where there was No doubt. Again, it's not called "spirits" for nothing and when that has been made apparent to someone, it's best to stay away from it Altogether, not one drop because I've Never gotten up any morning and said, "Glad I had a few last night" but have definitely said many times, "I'm Glad I Didn't drink last night" because Nobody Ever regrets Not having drank Ever!!
I’m happy that you are here and good. I’m also happy for the man who walked you off for some air.
I lived with a man who was an alcoholic and had been most of his life. Didn’t drink everyday , more a binge drinker. One night he was so drunk that he claims that while myself and my band were playing a gig some guy was supposed to have said something about me and what he would like to do etc etc with me. Next thing we’re home and it’s 4 am and he just snapped. Beat the living shit out of me. I had never ever been struck by anyone. He had never been violent in the past. No physical abuse , just the anxiety of him going on binges. Once it happened then our lives fell apart pretty quickly. I remember when my partner was attacking me there was no one behind his eyes. Just blackness.
It's pissession
Who cares ffs
This is such a great channel. These cases are heartbreaking
I feel bad for both parties
Alcohol is terrible
It destroys families
Doesn't take a detective to see that he was still drunk.
I ask the same question not for the detectives but for the person who made this video because he obviously assumes the killer’s reactions are “remorseless”. Well, he’s still drunk, duuuuhhhhhh....
Is it even legal to interrogate someone while they're still under the influence of intoxicants? Serious question, because I really don't know but if memory serves I believe I've heard in a few interrogations the detective ask the suspect if they are currently under the influence... You'd think if they had done it while he was still drunk the defense would've had the whole interrogation thrown out because of it.
@@dannywilliams6290 From what I've read yes and no. It depends on the severity of the situation
@@NoHolllw well I guess ur probably right considering the one interrogation remember with the poor guy that was completely innocent and had been shot in the head and they even refused him medical attention for hours.... These are the types of things that make me so angry it shouldn't be admissable in court in my opinion. If you haven't seen the video I'm referring to you should definitely check it out poor young man ultimately ended up dying a few years later from complications probably because he was denied medical attention when there was very clearly something very wrong and he had already told the detectives that he was shot in the head and they literally made him sit there for hours, I can't even imagine the excruciating pain that he had to have went through! Pure torture, I never looked into it but I pray that those two imbeciles were fired and that his family were successfully able to sue that whole police department!! Warning lol if you haven't watched yet you'll Walk away just as enraged as I obviously am
@@dannywilliams6290 Good point.
I stayed at the hotel where several dozen of cops checked in, I'm guessing they had convention of sort. Once they went to their rooms and uniforms came off, all hell broke loose. Loud, disorderly, etc. No rules applied to them.
That's because of the Blue Line Gang ethos. If it wasn't for cameras cops would still be letting their "brothers" slide.
Oh please. You risk your life for peanuts in pay and have the public, not let you have a little fun. Stfu.
Rules for Thee and not for Me. Classic drunk on power. Just look at all the big names when COVID hit. They all broke their own rules.
because they know you have no recourse. Who are you gonna call? The cops? They can get away with ANYTHING and they know it.
Yeah I worked at a golf course and the county next to ours had a police outing, I never so so much lawlessness on a golf course and damage, 2 were arrested for destroying a golf cart and trying to leave, it was like a field day for the state park police cops that came, thankfully they got in under control
It never ceases to amaze me just how much alcohol can change a person's whole personality. It just slows me down and makes me sleepy and so it's hard to understand how much rage and aggression some people have.
I have a different point of view, I believe it doesn't change the person's personality but instead it reveals it.
@@devra3762 You're right. It doesn't 'change' our personality, it's almost like a truth serum. It lowers our inhibitions so much that the real self comes out.
@@lindahandley5267 It enhances lots of emotions. The bad stuff is just what’s more memorable.
@@Scrabble12 Yes, I've seen it happen.
Same here, it makes me giggly, then sleepy. The friends I drank with were similar, just goofy fun, karaoke, food and shots in between. Didn’t know it hit people different til I met someone who would get angry, start arguments over dumb shit, and even get physical. Whew. Never drank with hard liquor strangers again. It’s a stupid idea anyway, but you’d think people know how they are and would be a little more responsible for themselves
He says, "So i guess i'm being booked into jail". As if he was hoping the detectives would say, "No, your one of us. Your good to go".
Lebenslänglich Haft ist zuviel.
My son told me “alcohol changes you, mom.” I began to pay attention and didn’t like what I saw. At all.
I’ve been sober for 15 months now and refuse to touch the stuff ever again.
Amazing! Good for you!
That's great!! I'm proud of you for making that decision for you and your son.
My dad drank himself to an early grave when I was 12 and the trauma of it continues to affect my life to this day. Whenever I hear about someone getting sober (especially a parent) I just want to give them a big hug.
Keep going!! 💜
@@Leahhunks Thank you for taking the time to comment. It feels amazing not having to worry about where my next buzz is coming from or if I have enough money to buy more alcohol.
@@pinsandneedles3 I am very sorry you lost your dad to alcohol. I will light an incense stick for you after I post this comment. I cannot fathom losing a parent to this liquid poison. I wish you healing and love and I accept and return your hug. May your days be brighter.
35 years here and do not miss it at all.
That man is in shock. No questions,he can't even fathom the thought of him hurting someone so close to him he honestly probably thought this was a prank.
I dunno .. it makes me wonder what has happened in the lead up to this, what he was like while drunk in the past prior to this?
@@pockamiYeah. The timing of his coughs and near complete lack of emotion after hearing of the murder makes me think he at least kind of had it in for this guy beforehand
He’s clearly being abused, not in shock. Is he being tortured tho..?
Shock, sure. But that man is still drunk. And was obviously black out drunk before this interview. It explains a lot.
I had to go to AA meetings in order to dig myself out of the hell I put myself into. I got to the point of almost feeling that black outs were a given. It was a vicious cycle of remorse, anxiety, depression and mania. Loneliness is closely connected with addiction but I now feel that the fewer people I dragged into hell the better.
I wish you continued success.
Praise god baby
ODAAT
@Zarathustra MG42 God bless you! 🙏
@Zarathustra MG42 good for you! I wish you many happy years ahead.
i like the whole coughing/going to sleep routine when he finds out who is dead
After watching true crime videos , the next time I go on a trip with a coworker, brother in law, or familly friend, I will spring for MY OWN ROOM.
@Christopher Jacobs sure. drink, watch sports, talk and crash.
When they asked if anyone has ever told him that he has ever been violent while drunk that, no, was pretty damn quiet.
Yeah, I think he knew he was absolutely capable of doing what he did.
People have been glossing over that part and trying to paint him as much as a victim as the literal victim.
About him not showing remorse (from a recovering alcoholic) if he was blacked out drunk on vodka, that guy is in absolute hangover HELL. In that state you haven't really come back to reality yet. Your brain is still trying to readjust. Trying to piece things together. The victims name, appearance, names of siblings, all feel like really old memories in that state. Not to mention being in complete denial about it because frankly, he didn't do anything...that he can remember. Everything happening to him in that moment feels more like watching a movie or having a weird dream. Of course he isn't going to have an emotional response yet.
Another huge red flag:
When he said he thought that going out "was a bad idea"
This indicates he was reluctant to go, not wanting to go, making a person irritated for being somewhere they dont want to be.
This will set a drunk person's mood for the entire night. The booze will keep exacerbating that irritation like gasoline on a flame.
I'm conflicted about them giving him a life sentence for it though.
I get it...but I feel conflicted.
I can't make an argument against it either.
Exactly. I'm looking at this guy knowing 100 percent exactly how he is feeling in that moment and that is exactly how I would have responded. You're brain is extremely incapable of processing that much shit and it leaves you reeling trying to think about a million things at once. I could physically feel his hangover through the video. That man was in no way in control of himself that evening. There's a reason they call it stupid drunk, and the dumbest shit can set you off like you never expected. And these two were cops. Being the son of two police officers, I can confirm that the profession attracts a very aggressive personality type. You can't be timid and be an effective cop. Just a real tragedy for everyone involved.
I remember my days of blacking out and I agree. No matter how many questions or being told what happened it is just not there.
@@davevanvlerah5167 he remembered killing the chief. He just didn't give a damn. Never excuse someone's actions because they were "blacked out"
This was really, really well described. I myself have been a binge drink drinker since 14 years old. (60 now) I literally go 1 month to 1 year without drinking. Then one day I just "feel" my drink coming on. The black outs are exactly that. No amount of trying to remember what happened is possible. You describe the disassociation perfectly. Very very scary.
@@toidIllorTAmI Excuse me? At what point in my comment did I mention blacking out? You don't have to be blacked out to make disturbingly bad decisions, it requires an entire cocktail (pun intended) of extenuating circumstances. Been there, lived the same life. I hope if you make a tragically bad series of decisions that lead to your committing an act that will forever darken your life, someone who knows nothing about what you're going through doesn't try to step up and judge you. Peace.
ty as always, for helping me with my pain-filled sleepless nights with these crazy great stories.
13:12 Never in this history of police interrogations does it ever “suck just as much for us” as it does for the guy handcuffed to the table, naked under a hospital gown. 🤨
Hi
"help me jog my memory" is criminal jargon for "tell me how much you have figured out so far".
He seems either still drunk, severely hung over, or in shock. I almost wish they’d given him more time to recover before interrogation.
Still drunk for sure
Screw him...he didn't need "more time" to beat his buddy to death ...
Yeah
Wife: can you bring vegetable oil if your still at the store.
Mike: hmmm
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I don’t think he’s lying, I just think he was absolutely blackout drunk. These things are not unheard of and this is just based off my experience seeing how out-of-mind crazy people get…
Seems like he was hungover/still drunk during the interview even
@@YeoifiedImagine the hangover after being this drunk.
There are plenty of people in jail because of crimes committed while intoxicated and have no recollection of doing anything. I was in AA for a while and heard similar stories and nobody in the rooms was shocked except some of the newcomers, blackout drinking is scary, thank God I never ended up in jail but I certainly upset a few people, it's horrible finding out how you've been the night before from others.
How sad. This is just tragic. My heart goes out to their families.
Anything can happen at any point in life. Always gotta take precautions no matter what. This is also why I don’t drink alcohol
@@puffdaddy69 True. I don't either. It isn't worth it.
No no, normal people also avoid cops on private life. Bad people meet bad people.
I Knew it was passed time to quit drinking, when I beat up my sisters xmas tree and broke her coffee table. 🤣6 years sober and loving life and xmas trees🤣
Man I’ve gotten into it with a few Xmas trees , they get kinda confrontational
You sound like a 🤡
@staciebrown9306 was it that specific coffee table or are you still harboring animosity for all short tables?
@@sydneygrace-oconnor3067 🤣🤣🤣 I forgave all tables not for the table but for myself
@@adamhester372 🤣🤣🤣
Lucky was a very helpful and funny guy. I worked with him in law enforcement. He worked for stroud, and I worked in prague about 18 miles apart. He was always full of jokes and funny comments about everything. I, along with the rest of the lincoln County police officers, were and still remain in shock as to what has transpired with all of this. God help his wife and kids.
Are these little funded communities? Not sure why 2 grown men would share a room unless funding was a issue. I'd have said no just based off the size of the one guy. He no doubt is a snorer and I don't like hearing that as a light sleeper. Or was this homosexual advances and the dude turned him down? So far this video hasn't shed any lights on it. Maybe in the last minute they'll say something. RIP bro and condolences to his family and friends and yourself. He seemed like a genuine dude and a loved and respected police officer
@@dickfitswell3437 what the actual fuck are you on about?
@@dickfitswell3437 That's what I was thinking the reason might be too but there's no further info at the end of the video.
@@dickfitswell3437 I was thinking that too.
ACAB!
This just made my sunday alot less boring 🤣 thanks for the new upload RTC
In U.K. the police aren’t allowed to interview until completely sober - he’s clearly still intoxicated, I wonder how that stands up in court ? 🤔
He got life in prison so.. Pretty well?
Well, tis 'merica.
In this country, we don’t go by logic and morals. Just whatever solves the case fastest and looks best for the public.
In US it's makes a harder case for the state but the dumb cops do it anyways. If they were smart they would wait until he sobers up so he can't use that as a defense
In America they drag people with dementia and Alzheimer’s on the ground like they’re some serial killer. America is pathetic
Even the police aren’t smart enough to lawyer up lol
I know a guy who had been to prison for murder. The judge asked him what happened and he said he just don’t know. He woke up and his gf was dead lying next to him. He even pleaded guilty. He didn’t get life but he stopped drinking even when he got out. Sad situation.
Clearly he was in a blackout and does not remember what happened.
Or he's lying...
Or he's full of shit
I literally can’t tell you how many times I’ve blacked out from drugs and alcohol. Thank God nothing ever happen to hurt myself or ,god forbid, someone else. It seriously effects my memory to this day. I can see something happening and having absolutely no recollection, but this guy seems like he remembers some things that he isn’t letting on.
but the issue is at what point can we hold the government responsible for this?... selling a known subtance that can make you not know what youre doing and put you in a dream state?... change needs to happen for accesability to booze. have fun refining ur own, gonna be gritty makin toilet wine
This is 100% alcohol. Leave me out of this
@@drugsdelaney2907 come on xanax and other benzoesque "drugs: -___-
Dude, stop drinking booze & taking drugs!!! Get help!!!
Not alcohols fault. Let him do the blame game in jail, as you also sir
Oh, he's dead? Oh okay. Clears throat.
Good Lord this was a rough one to watch because he genuinely seems like he is still totally intoxicated and in shock, sleep deprived, etc. i feel for him because I’m damn near 13 years sober and this is something that alcoholic folks worry about.
“ I feel for him” he just murdered his boss and best friend. Are you stupid? Hope he Rotts in hell with immense guilt. Alcoholics should be euthanized by default.
I guess it’s because I’m an alcoholic and addict, but this is probably the first time I’ve ever felt bad for someone who took another life. When he gets sober he might remember more. What a terrible situation.
😩 That's really sad. Can you get help? The fact that this can happen is horrifying and astonishing to me.
I hope you can get help, and I’m sorry I didn’t read the part about your struggles the first time I commented. Best wishes
You're not alone, man. Fight the good fight. Don't end up in that chair.
I heard a program that said they now believe in the case of a blackout drunk it’s not that you can’t recall the memory but that when you’re that intoxicated your brain isn’t even creating/storing a memory to be able to recall.
@@tangyjoe4326 true
Does anyone else find it odd that a man beat another grown man to death with his bare hands but has no signs of a struggle on his body. He himself during the interview expressed confusion since his hands showed no signs of this happening. Also, I would think his face and body would show some signs of a struggle/fight. Maybe this video just didn't cover those details, but that aspect definitely struck me as strange.
Yes! Check the security dude's hands!
Do you know why it struck you as strange? It's because you're watching 🎭🎭🎭. This event is well-known to have been a psyop. Its point was to induce even more fear in the population than there is already. A fearful population is easier to control.
Hands don't usually get bruised when they suffocate or strangle someone.
@Skelter maybe if you suffocate or strangle someone who's already unconscious. But attempting to strangle a grown man who's fighting back will result in marks on the hands of the attacker. Something doesn't quite add up here. 🤷🏽♂️
He was given a life sentence for the murder. Turns out he hit him 5 times then suffocated and strangled him to death
I feel so bad especially at the part where he says he's never done anything violent before I just can feel his devastation.
Alcohol’s most underestimated drug, legally or not, available!
Wow, I think many of us know that feeling the morning after where we're like "I hope I didn't say anything inappropriate or I hope I wasn't too loud or annoying" etc etc. But imagine being told you'd murdered someone! I'm unsure if he's genuine but although I'm not a big drinker myself I have had those odd occasions where people have reminded me of things I've said and I've been mortified. It lowers your inhibitions so much, some people become totally different on it and behave in the worst way. But this is next level beer fear.
it's so hard to imagine as I never really experienced anything like this, but watching that cop's body language and keeps asking what happened, he truly doesn't know what happened. 😰
I agree. I am mostly a happy drunk and super mushy. So embarrassing mostly. But this is on a level that is so incomprehensible…but drunkenness can lead to anything.
@@machshfive it's sort of like a dream when you first wake up, you can kind of remember what was going on but the details are fuzzy or gone altogether. Difference is someone else saw the dream as well and can remind you what happened, and you just gotta hope you didn't do something terrible.
@@arizonahd If I have to be around someone drunk, I'd rather they be happy than obnoxious and mean, because if they ARE mean, I'm outta there!
@@lindahandley5267 I agree lol. I am very happy when I am drunk. But emotionally, I can see where I could swing the other way because you’re not right. But default, too happy 😆. “Sir, you’re in jail for hugging random people”.
Make no mistake, NOBODY drinks and drives more than off-duty police officers.
Except average civilians and people who accuse police of drinking and driving (ie you)
100% above the law thin blue line
@@antman6707 Alcoholism runs wild in both the military and first responders because we see so much of the nasty side of humans. Alcoholism atleast while I was in the military was something that helped me forget. I cant image the police not trying to have outlets for the type of stress they encounter. So unless they are into illegal substances Alcohol is really the only mind altering substance that provides that service. Thus leading to a higher amount of domestic violence and driving under the influence.
What does that have to do with this though??
@@chasingthefish9042 thank you for everything u do for us! I truly appreciate and back all police paramedics and military members! You all put your own lives on the line for such ungrateful people and do not even hesitate, you are truly the best of us! God bless and keep you safe always ❤️❤️❤️
I used to be a black out binge drinker. I was out of control once the bottle hit my lips. I couldn’t put it down. I would get excited at the thought of getting so incoherent I couldn’t form a sentence or stand up by myself without falling to my face. One time my best friend told me, I got up out of my chair in my room(she was on my bed), and I raised my drink, and fell flat like a board backwards. Got up laughing. Another time I broke my chair, woke up and was stunned, I said “who the fuck broke my chair!?” She was like “it was you mang! You fell back into the wall with it!”
Some funny times, but let me know tell you, waking up not remembering stuff is not fun. It’s downright terrifying. I haven’t had a sip of alcohol in over a year, but I haven’t blacked out or gotten hammered in yearsss. PRAISE GOD! I don’t like alcohol for me.
Praise God for making you do all that stuff in the first place. Dude is funny.
- Man this hits home, My best friend used to black out drink and was into getting in fights and if I hadn't stopped him from finishing a guy off he'd of had an episode like this. Alcohol is such a weird drug, I can't think of many other like that can make genuinely caring people just give into their most barbaric and violent instincts.
Alkohol doesn’t make anybody do anything. It strips away the veil of restraint and lowers inhibition. And when that happens, out come all our underlying issues. When I used to get really drunk (hardly ever happenes anymore thank everything ) I would either go into hyper people pleaser mode (not being able to say no to anything... NOT good) or I would dissolve into a self-pitying mess. Never have I yelled at or gotten into a physical altercation with another person.
If one turns into a raging maniac when drunk I would assume one has some pretty deep seated anger and self-esteem issues that should really be addressed in therapy. I hope your friend has gotten some help for his hurt ❤️
drinking is like a rubber band. Some drink (stretch the rubber band) and have no consequence others drink (break the rubber band) and blackout. I’m not a Dr but I believe once your rubber band is broken it can never stretch again. Sad story
@@strahlerin This guy, who can't spell alcohol, seems very wise.
@@strahlerin At least you admitted they were assumptions. Read about the subject more, from peer-reviewed sources.
@@jimmyredd lol. As amusing as your comment is (I don't particularly agree with their stance)... English is not a measure of intelligence.
For him to lose this much memory when drinking I would bet every dime I have that many friends AND RELATIVES have said to him, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID (OR SAID) LAST NIGHT!! No doubt his wife has threatened to leave and/or divorce him. There's no way this is the 1st time he's heard something like this. Maybe not for murder, but other shocking behavior for sure.
Not necessarily.
When going out I used to drink obviously but I never got drunk to a point where I would forget a thing.
Then one night I believe I just had my usual (approximately) and got so drunk that I couldn't remember the entire night. People showed me pictures and I have absolutely no clue when what happened.
and wasn't even able to go home with the other people because I couldn't walk and I just slept inside a heated train station.
Naturally I was extremely embarrassed when I woke up the next day but I still have no idea how it got so bad so quickly just that one single night.
Dont bet on things you have no control over. Rule no1
I wondered about this. The wife of the deceased only expressed confusion over it (at least that's all that we got from the video).
If he had a history of this behavior it seems like something she or others would have expressed, and likely would have been mentioned in the video (if the producer had that info).
Maybe he was typically a beer drinker and his buddy's vodka took him to another place.
I feel sorrow for the family of the victim, but also for the attacker. You can tell he genuinely didn’t know what he’d even done. It doesn’t excuse him from responsibility, but it’s still sad.
I knew a kid in college who was in the honors program and after 8 shots he saw bricks sticking out of the corner of a dorm building 6 stories high alternating on each side and he climbed up the building and then found the door to the building up there locked. Some cops saw him up there and went up the stairwell and he went crazy being unable to open the door and grabbed a fire extinguisher and assaulted the cops with it and ran down the stairs. They caught him trying to cross the street and The University of Akron had him sign in 10 minutes before a class and 20 minutes after a class and was unallowed to be on the campus otherwise the rest of the semester and he left the university for elsewhere. Great guy. Quiet and shy around women, but totally great in conversation with guys and never a curse word or anything you'd call disrespectful. He just was terrible on 8 shots of liquor.
@@ReligionOfSacrifice only in Ohio
I don’t feel sorry for him. Strange that he remembers every other detail including calling his wife, buying the booze and where they bought, what time they bought it, the chief wanting to go out but he didn’t including the actual conversation…he remembers everything other than the actual drunken “blackout” murder. He doesn’t seem surprised or upset about killing his chief. Seems to me he’s preparing his defence is all.
@@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 that was all before the vodka drinking though
Do you hold slaves responsible when they’re abused/tortured into the behavior?
Why would 2 guys rent a hotel room, in or near their own town, to drink and watch football? They were more than buddies....and probably that's what the beating was about.
It wasn't near their own town - they were OUT of town on a work trip. They were co-workers.
Lots of people in the comments have recalled drunken stories and many of them sound like they’re giving this man a pass because “alcohol is a hell of a drug” but he gets no pass from me simply because he had a choice to not get shit faced before he got shit faced but he chose to keep drinking and the outcome was murder. I’m glad he got life and I hope the family has been strong enough to keep going and live productive lives.
I don't think anyone is trying to give him a pass on anything. They're discussing why he seems so calm and unaffected. Completely different.
If you know you become black-out and violent when you drink then don't drink then bad shit like murdering your best friend won't happen.
Pleb
wow erica, very cool! nobody gives a shit that you lack empathy, you fucking moron.
God you're tone deaf. Feel sorry for your family
I kind of feel bad for him. He was the one who drank so much that he blacked out and that is 100% on him. But, I can’t imagine waking up and sobering up to the realization that I killed someone who was practically family. I totally understand his reaction. I don’t think he was trying to hide anything. It’s genuine shock in my opinion.
Exactly, he was not trying to hide anything he just couldn't believe he did that but knew it happened since they had him their.
I agree. Especially being trained to not be emotional on top of maybe who he is as a person. I’d be curious to listen to his trial. Is there more to the story or did this man literally make the worst mistake of his life?
What if he didn’t do it and the real murderer is the security guard ?
I feel that in a way, of course he has to be responsibke for what he did, but he wouldnt have done it without booze. Not an excuse but an explaination.
Security guard doing CPR could've prevented a lot of pain.
Alcohol alcohol has been legal since the ending of prohibition. The lubricant of the court system.
When I was younger my friend and I were got drunk.
I stole a car got into a high speed chase. Drive on train tracks and ended up behind a hotel shooting a gun in a parking lot. I had his dog on a leash and when we got surrounded by police I wouldn’t let go of the leash. Until the blinded me with lights and tackled me.
We spent some time in jail.
When released I changed my life. My friend whoever wasn’t capable.
He went on to commit suicide one day when he was by the lake getting drunk and was chased by police. He jumped into the lake knowing he couldn’t swim.
They pulled him out a few hours later when they found his body.
Rip Wade I’m sorry I wasn’t able to help you.
Alcohol is a demon in liquid form.
God bless you brother. Sorry for your friend.
Are u drunk now?
Wow that’s so sad. I’m sorry.
thats quite the story. sorry for your loss. i guess it wasnt your time yet.
RIP Wade, even though I don't know you guys I feel bad for you, him, his family and friends. Jail, drugs and booze can fuck you up mentally. I did 5 years in prison and came out super aggressive and worst. Eventually got my shit together, but a lot of people never get right mentally when they're living that life. Sorry again for your loss, glad you're alive
Years on this job and still not smart enough to remain silent and ask fir a lawyer.
Thank you so much I listen to your videos doing my housework 😁 Ill admit sometimes I get a little freaked out being here alone
The time it must take to make these is very much appreciated 👍
U ever listen to crime stuff to go to sleep?
I do and sometimes have nightmares.
Little research into this case. Michael Nealy had a blood alcohol
level of .294, Lucky Miller had a blood alcohol level of .334 at the time of his death. These 2 were extremely drunk. Please people if you are going to drink, drink safely. Don’t drive.
.15 is proper drunk... .334 is absolutely shitfaced almost to the level of needing hospitalisation. Ive been that drink before a few times and let me tell you, you cant even really be considered conscious.. you're literally like 5 brain cells in control of a human body.
I'll drink and drive if I please. Mind your own business
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I love the random "Don't drive" at the end for a case that had no vehicles involved 🤣I mean I get the sentiment, just funny. I would expect like "Drink in moderation and never when alone with only one other person" instead.
I just imagine "Man stabbed in neck by suspect armed with scissors" and you being like "Be safe when you're out and about. Don't run with scissors."
I remember being in my twenties and going for drinks with some friends from the place I was working at the time. It ended up just me and another guy. We drank all night and ended up having a lock-in at the pub, so the landlord gave us a room to stay in. He kept talking s--- about someone we worked with who was gay specifically because he was gay. He kept going on and on about how disgusting he was, and after a while I just said to him that maybe he has an issue because he's got some feelings that he doesn't understand. He grabbed me by the throat and started to choke me out. At first I thought he was playing around, but I could see in his eyes he was serious. I got him off me and beat and kicked him pretty badly, and once I got the landlord to unlock the doors, I walked home. When I think back, I don't understand why that wasn't the moment I stopped drinking altogether. I stopped almost 6 months ago and I don't think I'll ever let another drop of alcohol past my lips.
his "hmm" and "huh" is so annoying it wouldn`t surprise me if he was doing that all night and the chief told him to shut the hell up, and that set this loser off.
He was said to only respond in grunts while he was in top of him. It drive me crazy just during the video. Dude is a loser.