This Is What A Psychotic Break Looks Like
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In this JCS Inspired Documentary we take a look at the interrogation of Paul Williams. After police find the bodies of his family at his home, Paul claims it was all caused by a mental breakdown.
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I would love to hear your thoughts on this case. Was his psychotic break real or was he just pretending? I found it strange how he described how he felt by giving the definitions of psychotic episode symptoms. ( I apologize if the narration sounds different, I'm at the tail end of a cold )
As someone who has had depression for many years I will say I eventually became very clinical with my language bc its just easier to talk to the dr's that way. So for that reason I don't think it's too suspicious. HOWEVER, I have never experienced a psychotic break so idk how much that may change things. I just know after a while with chronic illnesses (mental or physical) you eventually learn all the lingo
@@CieraMychele Yeah, if you're getting treated for something you repeat all the language they use. He sounds exactly like my grandmother when she had Alzheimer's. Lot's of strange rambling, setting up sentences that sometimes go nowhere like it's the automatic word selection, statements seeking affirmation constantly, fluctuating in and out of being aware of her surroundings and what she was doing and how things worked and suddenly back to not knowing who you were or what she was doing or thinking she was somewhere else.
I have absolutely no doubt that he was not faking it.
The man showing no emotion and body language says alot. I still gotta watch the whole video tho.
It could be a psychotic break, but it could also me a mixture of a ton of different things. I do not think he's "pretending" but he definitely knows what he did was wrong. It seems like he is not capable of thinking past a word or two and then his brain just gets lost. I would absolutely hate to swap brains with him. Dude did not ask to become like this, so I do feel really bad for him. But clearly he needs to be punished while simultaneously get the help that he needs. No matter how much better he gets, if better at all; I do not believe he should ever be let out to live in society again.
yeayyy, the cold is back. i dont want you to feel bad and i really wish you feel perfect quick again, but i am just so happy that someone has a simple cold nowadays. the man looks like he is under shock about what happend, to me and i am not an expert.
I'm not sure that it was ethical to interview him without a lawyer present, even if he said that he understood his rights.
This, I don't think he mentally was sound enough go understand what he was agreeing to
up yours ya weirdo
Police don’t care about ethics lol
I agree, he's not competent to waive his rights.
"I'm nOt SuRe If...." shut the hell up lmfao
He lives now at the Treasure Coast Forensic Treatment Center, west of Port St. Lucie. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity by a judge who ruled he was incompetent to stand trial. A really sad case all around. It's pretty clear that he doesn't belong in prison. I hope he gets the help he needs.
The loony bin is worse than prison though, far more abuse in those places than in prison. It’s why they’re nearly all shutdown now.
How do you have this knowledge?? Jw thanks for the update..
@@brittanymcgee9687 I think mostly because I'm a journalist and a teacher. Those two professions are among those in which you pick up a wide array of useful -- as well as useless -- information, over the years. And I guess I'm just good at retaining it, though in 35 years, I'm sure I've forgotten far more than I've remembered, haha!
Got ya... Well thanks for the info it's really sad....but anyway have a good night ..
Nothing but love
Britt
i feel so bad hes living in a dream world in his head. that has got to be so lonely.
I, like many of you, have seen hundreds of interrogations. I've gotta say- this interview is 1 of the 2 most heartbreaking that I've seen in the last few years.
The other was the interrogation of Ryan after he'd been shot in the head.
Hurts my heart to watch this. I feel so bad for him and his family and friends. 💔💔💔
God yes the Ryan interview was tragic. Those cops failed him bad.
Oh lord that interview with Ryan just broke my heart. That one bothered me really bad.
Anyone have a link for that one?
@@buffoonssportstalk8856 ruclips.net/video/ZI8G0KOOtqk/видео.html
Could you name the title of that video and or link it by chance? I’d like to watch it.
This is so sad. He's clearly not faking this. As a nurse that deals with elderly with dementia, and having patients with psychiatric disorders, this is spot on for a break. Poor guy, poor family and so sad that he didn't get help before killing his wife.
Yes..we have males with dementia where I work and they can become frustrated by their confusion and they act out. Takes a couple of male nurses to control them. They really believe their thoughts too. I work at the desk but I get confronted when they think I'm a hotel concierge or I'm a shop or something. Usually they are ok..but I do need to be aware to not get th upset.
I agree. I notice this in some residents just not really making sense and just talking to talk but there's no connection.
According tot the article, his medication had just been changed, so he was under the care of a Dr..Apparently, he was worse off than the Dr. probably realized.
@@candyqueenify and how things like family or music can be the few ways to start some connection
The "help" is what set this whole thing up!!WTF!
The disorganized speech, hallucinatory delusions, and flat emotional responses are all common with schizophrenia. It's really hard to fake those symptoms consistently even for a few hours. Sometimes they just blurt things out too so I wouldn't read too much into his self-aware commentary. What stood out to me is that any time the detective suggested that his family did anything to make him angry or somehow motivated him to attack them he vehemently denied it. He wouldn't tolerate any slander towards them and I find that telling. I suspect it's genuine psychosis.
I agree with you, Abe. 100%. And it's fucking _unbearable_ to watch this. It's heartbreaking and I just cannot _imagine_ what it felt for the victims to know that they were being killed by their loved one, and it's equally terrible to think of what this very sick man will feel when he is healthy, mentally, and is fully aware of what he has done.
It's unthinkable to me.
I've watched very many interrogations and this just may be 1 of a couple that I simply cannot watch. Too painful. I feel for them all. 😞
That sounds good. His starting with possession and he’s always been possessed bothers me. If he has had delusions for so long he’d likely have learned to recognize them and point them out to people, like a doctor he was getting meds from. He’s not faking, but sudden break…not so sure.
It’s a shame he doesn’t have someone on his side to get him a lawyer so he can get the help he needs!!
I dated a schizophrenic, they were extremely emotional. I have been learning that my emotions often motivate wrong or self destructive actions in the moment so I am transitioning to more logical responses and just letting my self feel the emotion but I let it pass.
How did you come up with hallucinatory delusions?
i had a similar psychotic break last year and it was the scariest month of my life. i felt as if my body was using someone else’s brain. my thoughts weren’t mine and i couldn’t keep a train of thought for longer than a couple of seconds. i was embarrassed that i just couldn’t seem to remember how to act or speak.
i barely remember it now, but i remember begging my friends and family to help me. i was so confused, and no matter how much i begged, no one helped me.
no one takes mental health seriously until it directly interferes with their own life. it’s awful that this man didn’t get the help he needed until it was too late.
please check in on your loved ones, you never know what they’re going through. you don’t know when it’ll be too late to help them.
I'm so sorry you asked for help and got none. I agree with you completely that if someone needs help they should get it, and we have to check on our loved ones. I hope you can find someone, perhaps a professional?, that you can turn to if it happens again. At least if someone you know has this happen, you will now recognize the symptoms and perhaps even be of some help. I can only think that the people you asked for help were somehow unaware of how badly you needed it, or else they were too caught up in their own problems to be of help to you. This happens a lot, and that is why we have professionals to help us - they do a better job anyway because they have the statistics of what works and doesn't work. That is why I suggested you find someone you can talk to while you are ok. If you don't need them, ever, then that's cool. Take care!
I think my uncle had one but it also seems like schizophrenia probably drug induced. I miss him yet he's still here. He's just not here at the same time
I have bipolar and OCD and aspergers. When I enter a manic episode I start making noises like a dinosaur and running around like a lunatic yelling about the CIA. I understand in the moment that I'm acting crazy, it just becomes really difficult to control my strange impulses and the extreme surges of energy. It's kind of like being in a dream.
Luckily these types of episodes don't happen unless directly provoked, and I know what triggers it and therefore what to avoid.
What caused your psychosis.
For me it either lasted 1 year or it never really stopped (2 years and 7 months). I don't really remember if that's even right but whatever. Now I have bad memory problems and people have to repeat stuff for me constantly, sometimes up to 5 times or more until I understand. I already go to a child psychologist but right now I only get positive thinking exercises for my social anxiety. I'm feeling pretty hopeless :/
While I believe this officer had good intentions, there really should have been a mental health professional and his lawyer there for the questioning
Why?
the guy is a murderer he doesnt deserve special treatment
@@konz2891 so you are saying other people who do murder people are well? stfu
I masturbate to this daily
@@konz2891 That really doesn't matter. An interrogation simply gets the facts of the case. Doesn't determine mental health diagnose, doesn't determine guilt nor innocence... just gets whatever facts & evidence a suspect is willing to give. In this case, the poor gentleman was found unfit to stand trial and transferred to a facility where he can be helped & get treatment, as he should be. No doubt this interrogation gave necessary evidence to help the determination be made that he wasn't well. People try to fake insanity all the time to get out trouble. Each case is evaluated and generally the correct course of action is reached.. such as in this case.
He was found to incompetent to stand trial, and was found not guilty due to insanity last year. I remember this in 2018 and the news story covering it last year. Super sad.
I think he is better off in a mental facility that can correct his medication! I do believe right now the detective is not sure if he is play-acting!
I have depression and end up rambling i am told. Sometimes i worry this is like what i become at my worst. It has been harder since the pandemic. :(. I feel this man is not well at all.
@Violet Heavensbee how so?
@@MrJC1 Have you spoken to a professional about this?
It might be a "normal" thing for a depressive person, but I have reason to believe it can be a bad sign, too.
My brother was treated for depression for 5 years, from 13 to 18, when he was 18 he decided to abandon treatment.
When he was 24 everything began to do downhill after years of him reporting feeling great. He began to have episodes in which he would ramble, speak in a monotone way and show very little emotion, unfortunately we failed him badly because he was addicted to hard drugs and an alcoholic...we assumed he was on drugs when he showed these symptons and he would confirm (he was lying) because he was paranoid that we would label him "crazy" and, in he would say in his own words later on: "lock me up and treat me like an animal".
We were never abusive to him, he would constantly repeat this through the worst years, whenever we tried to get him help he would say something along these lines after exhausting other ways to argue, he had become extremely paranoid about other people hurting him.
Anyways, he was schizophrenic, the signs we mistook for drug use lasted a little more than one year, he declined extremely fast and we lost him.
Don't want to scare you or anything, but whenever people talk about being worried about their mental health, especially that they might be showing signs of something else, I feel very guilty...so if you haven't yet, talk about your worries to a professional, there's no harm in doing so.
Thank God. Thanks for the update
The human mind can be the scariest thing. Imagine seeing your father like this, with or without the murder, it's devastating. My heart goes out to his family and kids that have to deal with all this.
As someone who suffers from schizophrenia and has had a psychotic break, personally, it's the most confusing, frightening, and detached feeling imaginable. Luckily, I found a series of medications that truly work. I feel horrible for this guy.
I just want to compliment you for how well you’re doing. Finding the right combination of medications isn’t easy, so I know that you’ve put a lot of work into getting to where you are today. Keep it up!
@@zaddyjacquescormery6613 thank you so much. That means a lot.
What medications are u on,the ones they gave me did nothing but further fog me out.
@@direwolfnation8960 aripiprazole, hefty doses of alprazolam, and gabapentin. Might not work for everyone, but it's kept me out of the psych ward for the past 5 years.
@@direwolfnation8960 but they definitely still keep me pretty hazy during the day and yet I only average about 2-3 hours of sleep a night. It's not perfect, but I can still function in society and I have a really good support group. I would recommend that above anything else, honestly.
He's not faking. He can't sit still, he can't connect his thoughts with his words and he's lost enough weight to cause his ribcage to protrude. He has no real motif and describes his wife as wonderful. he seems like a kind soul who had some underlying, mental issues that crept up on him. I'm glad the judge saw it and put him in an institution. I hope his victims are resting in peace.
What also stuck out to me is for 90% of the interview he mirrored precisely the way the interviewer sat and adjusted his posture.
@@bagitsonI caught that too
@@bagitson
The mirroring is actually also a symptom of schizophrenia / psychosis. 😮
Trying to get a crazy man to appear sane for harsher punishment is just as bad as trying to appear insane when you’re not. The goal ought to be to get to the truth and give justice.
Crazy people deserve no mercy.
@@BkBk-gy6vrWow. That was so ugly You sound insane.
@@BkBk-gy6vrpeople with no brains deserve no access to comment sections.
Even just listening to his speech, much less watching the video, it is SO clear he really has had a psychotic break. I used to have what’s called “fibro fog” (a side effect of fibromyalgia). His way of dropping the subject and struggling to remember words had me feeling like I was looking in a mirror. Although I never committed any crimes - for me it was just struggling to maintain a conversation without losing track and struggling to find the right word. The only things that helped were a dementia medication and walking back a conversation (“we were discussing A, then you mentioned B, now I remember I was saying C”).
I really hope this guy got decent psychological help. Once his mind settles down he is going to wish he stayed in the break, bless his heart.
It appears that is what they are trying to do, but I think it is more of a test to see if he is faking. Actual legal insanity is pretty hard to pull off - you have to not be aware that what you did was wrong, for example you would might even be proud you did it and running away or lying would not occur to you. There was a guy in Canada who was on a Greyhound bus and he chopped off the head of a young man on the bus, thinking he was saving the other passengers from an alien. When everyone ran off the bus, he was on there waving the head around to show them that they were safe now from the alien. I'm not sure about this guy, he seems like he is having or did have a psychotic break, but he is also aware he did something wrong, and even said he "snapped". So I guess it will be up to the judge/jury.
you can tell how much this man loves his family. even in a psychotic episode you can see him start to smile when he's asked to describe them and he's able to give the most coherent answers he's given up until that point. this is heartbreaking to watch
no he doesnt, he has no idea what love is. Its dupers delight. He only got animated when he talked about himself and his weightloss. Psycho.
@@caleyhall this man isn’t well he belongs in a secure medical facility that can treat him,he’s going to need all the help he can get when it hits him exactly what he’s done..I
I don’t even think the behaviour panel (which you obviously watch)will regard this as dupers delight
I agree. Heartbreaking on all accounts.
Suspicious that he can answer certain questions with no hesitation & often sits very calmly & has genuine expression in his voice. And most people having a psychotic break are not aware they are having one. They don’t tend to say things like “I’ve lost touch with reality” & “I let the stress affect my thinking” & “I took her life because I was not thinking clearly”. Those insights come after the psychotic break. Usually with assistance of medication, therapy & being exposed to the facts. But also, most people suffering a psychotic break aren’t aware of their motivations. They live in the moment & have a lack of understanding of what’s happening in that moment.
These are the symptoms of psychosis “Brief psychotic disorder is characterized by the abrupt onset of 1 or more of the following symptoms:
Delusions
Hallucinations
Bizarre behavior and posture
Disorganized speech
Associated symptoms may include the following:
Affective symptoms
Disorientation
Impaired attention
Catatonic behavior
The following are also commonly observed in brief psychotic disorder:
Emotional volatility
Outlandish dress or behavior
Screaming or muteness
Impaired memory for recent events”
He has intermittent disorganised speech only & only in certain circumstances, which can be related to guilt & discomfort as well as the potential they’re deliberate. His posture & movements are unusual but have a narrow range & are within the realms of normal behaviour for someone experiencing extreme discomfort with a situation, and he also has periods where he is perfectly still. He has good recall & insight into what he has done & textbook definitions for why he did them, most interestingly almost word for word from websites for consumers, not health professionals. For example “When a person’s stress rises to a level they cannot endure, they may begin to experience sudden changes in their mental and emotional composure. They may even begin to experience symptoms of psychosis” & “When stress continues to accumulate in a person’s life and they don’t have the skills and resources to cope with it, eventually something will have to give.” (Ref 2)
1. Brief Psychotic Disorder
Updated: Dec 09, 2020
Author: Mohammed A Memon, MD; Chief Editor: David Bienenfeld, MD - Medscape
2. A Psychotic Break vs. a Mental Breakdown: Comparing Symptoms and Treatment Options
November 16, 2018, Laurel Nowak - BrightQuest
I don’t agree. He has far too much insight & recall for someone supposedly suffering an untreated acute psychotic break.
“His incoherent ramblings continue for another 20 minutes before the detective is able to get a confession out of him.” Thank you for cutting the ramblings out. Your edit of the interrogation has established in detail the state that he’s in. Some of these channels will pad out a 3 hour video full of next to nothing for the engagement. I appreciate you cutting this into the most interesting, gripping video possible. Good stuff.
Exactly my thought!
imagine your "normal loving" dad calls you an says "they are gone and I'm gone" then hangs up now you have his court to worry about hes going to jail forever your mom an sister are both dead so you have funerals to plan and you have to explain that your dad lost his mind and killed your family to everyone around you the trauma that must have left behind for everyone involved i really really hope that things are easier for them by now
Thanks so much for recognizing the trauma for Paul's living daughter.
No solicitor, no appropriate adult, no psychological evaluation, utterly mind blowing
But those things would complicate executing him.
Right, he needed an advocate😒
America 🇺🇸
Why do they need that? They are looking for a murderer, not trying to solve this guys personal problems.
@@heilzelynsky9746 you’re watching the wrong genre if you really can’t figure out the answer to that. Give it some thought eh…..
My father had a "nervous breakdown" in the 60s which I witnessed. It is something that will remain with me until my death. He spoke monotonally, much as this man.
That is so sad.. hard on children, they don't understand. Best wishes to you. My own child could no longer stand me after i had a mental breakdown. I lost all that day..
The fucking 60's!? Bullshit you'd have to be old af now
@@allhaildrewcifer9541 53 to 63 years old. math
@@ionymous6733 quick maffs, well done m8
@@allhaildrewcifer9541 I'm 70.
I am a licensed clinical social worker and work with guys with serious mental illness on a regular basis. I would say, just based on this video, his symptoms don’t seem consistent with a psychotic condition like schizophrenia but seem more consistent with something like dementia. I also know that certain medications can have adverse effects like this in older populations. He is clearly not oriented or stable. I would be curious to know the ethical modalities of interviewing individuals who are clearly not stable. He is definitely not likely faking these symptoms.
Must agree My father passed a couple months ago and this guy resembles the same behavior I was noticing. Not connecting speech with thoughts, forgetting halfway through a sentence but remembering basic things from the past
Yup, Biden is about to be this way very soon. Imagine how many Biden voters who’ve watched this and think this guy was just fine.
@@LostCause36Bringing politics into this when it has NOTHING to do with it? Why do idiots do that?
I've had one genuine psychotic break in my life and a couple of near misses. I can assure any watchers that a man is capable of anything when he enters that zone. I feel a tremendous sympathy for the man because once he leaves the zone of psychosis he will surely be in hell.
💯
@@jeffdaman5779 I was friends with somebody who unbeknownst to me was abusing meth. I saw his slip into psychosis until he had a full on break while I was with him. Unfortunately he was a gun hoarder and held me for hours while he talked about ending the world. A few days later he was arrested for doing the same to his grandma and brother and on gun charges. Hate to hear that about your friend, I also feel a sense of loss
i had a break when i was blackout drunk and took shrooms. broke all my shit but thankfully didnt hurt anybody.
Oh crap! Were you black out drunk when you decided to take the shrooms, or were you already having a drink while waiting for the shrooms to kick in?
I’ve been black out drunk a few times, that would be my worst nightmare if “drunk me” decided to pile on shrooms to the whole affair
@@irisgreene4175 I was hammered when my friend asked if i wanted to go halfsies on a bag. i dont even know how much i ate lol. just a handful of em.
I feel like it was genuinely unethical to question him without a lawyer since he’s clearly suffering from some sort of diminished capacity. I feel for the poor man.
I concur. A psychiatrist or psychologist, at minimum, needed to be present. Actually, he should have been admitted for a 72 hr. mandatory psych evaluation before this interview. I’m not pleased with how this department handled this situation at all. I can’t imagine a Judge liking it as well.
But the detective is clearly trained in some sort of criminal psychology, plus this man just killed 2 ppl. This is just the first part of the very long process
Seems like a huge easy to manipulate loophole which would get used regularly. The cop doesn't know this guy from a bar of soap until he talks to him a bit.
I don't know if that's going to be an issue. As you said, his diminished capacity is rather obvious even from this shortened version of the interrogation. Given that I think it's going to prove to be useful for the defense.
It's kinda a defendants dream come true. The prosecution often relys heavily on a confession. If any attorney can get it thrown
I remember when my mom had a serious mental break after suffering from untreated borderline personality disorder, trauma, and abuse. It’s really scary because as a family member I remember having fears that she would become violent or do something to us even though she didn’t have a particularly violent history. But she was so gone and out of touch with reality I’d tie my room door shut with a jump rope because there was no lock and sometimes she’d come in my room in the middle of the night crying and freaking out, get in my bed and start crushing me while hugging me.
It was super sad and confusing, but she would press so hard I literally could barely breathe plus it was disorientating because she’d appear normal right before going to bed and then hours later would still be awake and doing random things like researching stuff on the computer, coming into my room, blasting Queen to wake everyone up at 3am, deliberately banging pots and pans while doing the dishes at 2-3am…..
I guess what I’m trying to explain is that even if someone isn’t normally violent, when they’re so deeply affected by a mental illness that the same person isn’t present, there is no telling what whim or idea will take them away and how far they’ll run with it even if it makes zero sense.
That sounds very traumatic. I hope you're alright and things are better
A lot of people who go through such an upbringing use it to justify terrible things and monumental weaknesses.
But the way you talk and the look in your eyes, tells me you only hunger to understand what drives others and to treat them with empathy.
You’re a badass. And very rare.
Your poor mother, I really hope she got the right help for her and is coping ok now x
You can't treat a personality..
He sounds like my father-in-law when he had Alzheimer’s and was extremely tired and/or stressed! He would just get so lost in in his sentences and forget what he was talking about mid sentence! I 100% believe this guy is for real and is having a mental episode! It’s heartbreaking
As a manic depressive I can 100 percent believe that this man is having a mental breakdown,but this is just my opinion,either way it’s very 😢
I have no idea what you mean but okay 👍😂
It's almost hard to listen to, because I can remember talking like that when manic, and I just want to help him breathe.
I think you’re very right x
Doesn't matter if he's having a mental break or not, that doesn't excuse murdering your family. I'm sure at his age he knows the difference between right and wrong.
@@Disco_opp420 shush
Despite his horrible act I really feel sorry for this man he’s out of his mind and so vulnerable
He shouldn’t even be interrogated hope he gets treated
I’ve had a manic episode before and it really fucks with your head until it wears off. Knowing psychotic breaks are even worse, like 10 to 20 or even 100 times worse, scares me and breaks my heart. I hope everyone is doing okay. Person reading this? Please take the time to rest and relax.
I had a really bad psychotic break about a year ago and truly hope I don't get another one 😭
If one of you flip outs ever hurts my family because of your"manic episodes" then I'm going have a flip out too. I'm so sick of these people and their fucked up problems they put on everyone else.
@@acx207 well yeah, Id expect so. Mental illness doesn’t excuse horrific actions. Im just empathetic to what happened, but he still needs to suffer consequences because of what he did.
I've had a pretty serious break at one point. Heard my next doors talking about me even though they didn't know me and probably had never seen me before. I thought the gangs were after me and I spent about a week on the run in my car. Sleeping rough and breaking into buildings trying to get warm. It sucks because you know you're nuts, you just can't figure out which thoughts are the bad ones.
If you are considering yourself nuts then consider them all bad thoughts
It’s interesting to see a true psychotic break, you can so clearly tell he is not faking anything. Sad.
True. I had some treatment in a facality where I was briefly in a lock down mental health ward. We had our vitals taken multiple times a day, and were interviewed about our current state of mind. The questions would ask about hearing voices, seeing visions, and then randomly odd questions.
They also notations taken by the staff documenting our current behavior and activity at multiple times a day.
There were patients more stable than others. We also met with a psychologist every day. They kept very careful notes. If suddenly someone's story changed dramatically or making complaints about side effects from meds that don't cause that symptom, they could track the inconsistencies. I later learned that patients were specifically asked about side effects that don't exist just for that purpose.
There were guys who would just randomly freak out that was real. Others were just being dramatic. What I learned is that it is impossible to successfully fake insanity, especially at the level of scrunity for a murder suspect.
He is smart, knows he’s been caught and has spent a lot of time on this earth. He knew how to get away with it, and he did.
I had a psychotic break about five or six years ago. It was due to an undiagnosed bipolar and severe anxiety disorder. I’ve since gotten on meds and now lead a pretty normal life. But this takes me back man. The difficulty expressing thoughts. Clearly detached from reality… I don’t wish this on anyone. I hope one day this man can find peace.
Would you mind sharing which meds? I used to dismiss meds and prefer only trauma therapy but recently hearing more people saying their meds HELPED. I believe people more than the companies selling the meds.
@@fab8506 of course I got you. Ok so I got diagnosed with bipolar 2 and general anxiety. The current doses I’m on are as follows.
•250 mg lamictal
•20 mg Prozac
It was a very difficult process trying different meds because it took awhile to land on this exact combination. I’ve been on this for 2.5 years and can honestly say I am living a normal life. When I say life was hell before I’m not kidding. Best recommendation I can give is make sure your psychiatrist really listens to you. If they just ask you questions and check off boxes get up and walk out. After 4 different psychiatrists I finally found one who talked to me for over an hour about my life and symptoms. Then we came up with a medication plan together and monitored my feelings weekly for several months. That’s what it takes to get the right meds.
@@Uniqueusername2 hi clifford thanks so much for this info. I’m really glad to hear it’s working well- i’m sure YOU are more lol! Everyone i know complains about that exact thing you described about the psychiatrists. Man with the $$$ they make can’t they just listen?? Well thanks so much again 😊
@@fab8506 My pleasure and good luck! I tried therapy w/o meds for a long time and begrudgingly decided to take meds. Best decision I ever made. Don’t be discouraged by the horror stories of psychiatrists though. I can promise you, pushing through the BS and eventually finding the right meds is absolutely worth it. You got this 💪🏻
@@Uniqueusername2
Lamictal saved me, I'm on 400 mg per day, togheter with 300 mg effexor.
It's impossible to coordinate all his symptoms into what you might think is an act, his hands, feet face all telling his story, his pauses as he strenuously tries to put together chronology, truly heart breaking
All these people saying he is faking must be absolutely incredibly the lowest dumbest people in society
I feel bad for this poor man. He's lost in his own conscience
Or a diabolical manipulators
@@heilzelynsky9746 What do you mean?
@@BornOfOneBreath what he means is that it is pretty likely this dude manipulated the situation with diabolical savvy and now is in a position to engage in his passion hobby, murder, again.
@@rstidman Ahhh, gotcha. Interesting perspective, if so, that makes it ever more confusing and sad.
Consciousness not conscience
I've had a psychotic break after my dad had passed away' and a lot of crazy events that took place after which made me lost track with reality. Thankfully I got the help I needed.This guy comes off genuine and I feel sorry for him. He had no control over this.
My dad's mother had schizophrenia, and I find the way he talks, acts and looks to be very similar. Its very sad. He committed a horrible act but truly mentally disturbed people feel a deep amount of remorse, and almost like it didn't happen. This case is horribly sad and it's hard to sit through personally.
@@hazard3483 unfortunately she went missing and no one has seen her or talked to her in years. No one cared enough to find her, due to her being severely abusive to my father and his sister.
My fiancé has bipolar disorder so it’s made me look into matters of the mind, if you will.
From everything I’ve found, schizophrenia sounds like one of the worst disorders a person can have.
It’s incredibly sad. Obviously, whenever you hear stories like this, you feel terrible for the victims but I don’t know what side would be worse. Truly. Being murdered by someone you love is unthinkable but coming back to reality and realizing you did it seems just as bad to me. You would be a prisoner in your own mind. It seems so unfair what some people have to live through.
As for your grandma…maybe she ran away because she couldn’t bare hurting the people she loved anymore. Clearly I didn’t know her but just a thought.
Your Dad's Mother? That would be your Grandma.
My mom has schizophrenia as well as bipolar, and well a lot of other mental health issues... And, I have to say the schitzophrenia was the hardest to see, manage, handle, etc. and it was also incredibly scary as a kid to witness {I still to this day have a fear of looking at peoples eyes and still have nightmares about it... As, you'll see them looking almost behind you, so intensely and it made me legitimately afraid to turn around a few times thinking something actually was there. Not to mention their puils will diolate and it's scary to see if you don't know any better. As well as a lot of other things, such as paranoid delusions, manic and heightened behavior as she was reacting as though her delusions were real and we're coming for her, and so much more.} And, it's....it's fucked, and it's really hard because I sympathized with my mother so much. And, I still do, however now that I'm older....I feel that's no excuse for some really vile and horrendous things that she did, and I no longer excuse her behavior - but, that's more so because she had the ability to stop doing incredibly abusive things, she just didn't want to. And, more so, as someone who does experience paranoid thoughts and occasionally delusional thoughts {due to trauma, and due to my childhood with my mother having skitzophrenia as her thought's and beliefs were pretty much taught to me} I could never imagine being able to, let alone considering, and definitely not acting that way even with my issues. So, it's tough. You feel bad, but also, there's no excuse. And, I know he will likely regret this and punish himself for this for the rest of his existence, or until he ends his life - which is more likely than most might think as skitzophrenia already has a high rate of self harm.
one more thing, as I just remembered how he showed how skinny he was, this was another thing that I see in my nightmares as well as the eyes, because in my child mind I think I honestly felt like she looked like what I see in my night terrors. Which can be best described as a pale, severely unnurished, course like person, with demonic eyes that never look at you directly, though you feel her staring, while so frail she's dragging her body along the floor on her arms with her legs dragging behind her. {{my mother spent a lot of time in bed, and there were other incidents that happened such as finding her after she overdosed that might factor into it as well}} however, it might be something worth speaking on as I'm not sure - but maybe how thin someone with that disorder might get might be a potential indicator that their mental health is good. And, the best reason I can think to explain why they're so skinny is either they're using uppers {coke, meth, etc.} which causes psychosis and might mirror schitzophrenia {{i'm speaking in his case, though my mom used coke a lot, and was an addict}} or they're too paranoid about the food being poisoned, undercooked, bad, etc. or they're having hallucinations in which they're being told not to eat, being told their fat, being told they're not hungry enough to eat, etc. But, again I don't know if this is an actual thing with schitzophrenia let alone if it could be an indication of their mental health declining. {{though I guess not maintaining good self care is a indicator of someones mental health declining, so idk}}
It's weird how a detective can't tell this man is clearly insane , but everyone else watching this can.
Mainly because the cop deals with people trying to game the criminal justice system for a living. You also have no training in this field.
Notice how he can articulate pretty well about symptoms and technical terms but cant describe what his job was but can remember his high-school mascot? It's almost as if he is picking and choosing. A normal person may not be able to fake symptoms for so long but normal people also don't kill their family.
I would think that the man's lawyer could get this interview tossed. He's clearly not fully with it.
Pretty sure a homicide detective almost never gets to interview someone who isn't mentally unwell. Even a witness would be unwell during the days surrounding the event.
His job is to figure out the truth, not cater to murderers
The cop doesn’t walk into a room to interrogate a murderer with the hindsight we have and a big title over the guys head reading “psychotic break” like the video has. He has to go in there and try to find out what happened. It’s his job
This is bloody heartbreaking. The guy is almost catatonic. Utterly broken.
Why are we _still_ so bad at seeing that someone is seriously unwell _before_ something hideous and irreversible happens?
The cop is just after an arrest. He isn't interested in the guys mental health. It appears that he wants the man to admit what he had done. The man deserved a mental health support worker and a lawyer to back him up in his weak state.
If this interrogation is somehow unethical, the information from it can get thrown out of court. Looks fine by me, as the guy couldn't have been clearer in confessing to the murders of two innocent people. Having said that, he probably wouldn't have snapped if he wasn't on any ridiculous mind-killing 'medication', and someone like that probably can't even stand trial anyway.
I very much disagree. NOW is the time to get information. Court is the time to determine his state of mind. If he was of unfit mind to agree to talk without a lawyer this whole recording would not have been admissible.
Lol you're right, they should hold hands and discuss the bible and sing together. Gtfoh
@@Nedula007 man kills his entire family.. I seriously can't believe they asked him why 🤣🤣
Ok let him murder ur love one an see if u feel the same . Just cause u have mental illness u don’t get to murder ppl an not go to jail
IMO, this man has had a psychotic break. I used to work with the criminally insane and he reminds me of many of the patients I worked with. Sad really because they were extremely regretful for what they had done.
BTW the narration is spot on. 👍🏽
Your job probably was full of days where you were 😃 thankful you weren’t in their shoes…
But also 😧 disheartened that so many people get to that point.
*I could be wrong.*
Yes but let’s be honest anyone who slaughters their entire family can fall under the guise of “insanity”. Doesn’t mean they should get off by being sent to a medical facility.
So if they go nuts and kill 40 people but feel bad about it you’re fine with it?
@@newworldgrover8588 I’ve heard that prison is better than those facilities. Especially the state run ones.
@@aliceullrish5251 That’s just dumb.
first time i see a detective be uncomfortable during an investigation
This interrogation shows exactly what’s wrong with our justice system. This man clearly can’t even form a proper sentence. He needs to be hospitalized. Interrogate him if he recovers.
I don’t know how old Paul is, but the way he communicates reminds me of my dad who is suffering early stages of dementia (but getting worse each day😢). He seems sure of what he’s talking about, then forgets in the middle of a story; remembers some random things but not others; and gets easily confused. Add in the stress of being interrogated and I don’t believe he’s acting. And before anyone yells at me…HE DID A TERRIBLE THING AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR HIS ACTIONS!
Thanks for another intriguing video, Red Tree! Your content is great!
He should get help.
Why would a mentally insane person deserve punishment. Our nation is uncivilized and disgusting for how we treat our mentally ill.
After reagans attempted assassination, republicans made it almost impossible to plead insanity. Some red states dont even allow it.
Broken health system that republicans are against reforming, so they went from institutions to prisons.
Our nation is full of sick people. And the ones who arent sick, are cruel, selfish and devoid of empathy towards those who are.
I just commented the same thing. He did a terrible thing but I disagree though, I think he needs to be locked up for everyone else's safety but I don't think he needs to be punished. You think the people he killed would want him to suffer? He should be put in a mental facility for the rest of his living days. More suffering solves nothing.
Sorry, my verbiage was poor! I agree with you both that he should get mental health support, not necessarily prison. Just meant he should be held accountable for his crimes and agree that a mental institution would be better so Paul can get the help he needs!
I think the presentation is much more typical of Alzheimer's than a random psychotic break.
@@princessofhardrock3934 I totally 💯 agree, though I’m not a doctor but I’ve worked in a wonderful nursing home and signs of dementia are definitely there!
He needed a lawyer. He's not coherent.
It's so sad how people can do horrible things without being fully aware of themselves. It's scary.
All the things that can go wrong with the mind and body are scary. It's just a giant mess.
I'm always curious about how can god exist if people don't even have the same perception of reality. I'm an agnostic and this problem bothers me, distancing me from religion. Some mentally ill people seem like they don't actually exist in terms of a conciousness.
These things are such a confusing thing, how do we even know that the human race isn't delusional thinking that the thing we live in is the ultimate reality? These are really hard questions and it's probably impossible for us to solve, it's like trying to develop a sense of smell without ever having a nose, you just won't know what to look for... I feel extremely sorry for these people
@@efficientgaming4603 agreed
I’m glad the Detective remained patient and very mindful of the fact that this man actually wasn’t a “terrible criminal”. Yes, he’s a man who committed a terrible crime but his mind wasn’t well.
I think he should be severly punished for continuing interviewing a clearly confused and mentally ill guy
Tears my fucking soul apart to watch him try to maintain a conversation, it's terrible to see what a damaged head can do to others and to one's self
This behavior reminds me of how my daddy acted towards the end of his life. Although daddy wasnt violent. His mind was slowly going. I just lost him this last January. Was so hard after caring for him for the last six years. Covid took his life. Although this man did a horrible thing, I think he needs mental help very bad. I dont think prison will fix this. I do not believe for a moment he is faking.
I'm sorry for you loss :/ I also thought he was one of the few out there that isn't actually faking a mental breakdown. If he is then he is a very good actor
I am sorry for your loss. there is so much I could say but nothing that would help. So I'll just send you my best x
Yeah sorry for your loss but please stop calling him daddy, you got loads of alternatives ..
@@LightbottomDave Wait, she can’t call her Dad “Daddy?”
I’m sorry for your loss ☹️
This guy needs serious help and the cops shouldn't be questioning him until he's seen a doctor.
This one is really sad, you can tell this guy is struggling and I have no doubt he genuinely had a psychotic break, every time he says situation it's like his anchor point to try and keep with reality
He’s got you fooled
The full 8 Hour interrogation is absolutely impossible to watch. I'm surprised you were able to get it down to 42 minutes.
It took a long time. I tried to show everyone only the key points
@@RedTreeCrime 👍🏽
8 hours seems excessive for anybody but especially someone in this man's state.
@@RedTreeCrime thank you.
In my opinion he has legitimately lost touch with reality to a certain extent.
Even though this man did horrific acts, I still have empathy for him.
He seems really sick to Me the mind can do strange and something terrible things to You that You have no control over I think He is really sick
I think a psychotic break. I've suffered from PTSD and severe depression for decades! So many times suspects pretend to have psychotic episodes but they seem so transparent. This guy made my head hurt because I could feel the confusion in his brain and how difficult it was to gather his thoughts. I wanted the interrogator to stop torturing Mr. Williams and wait until he was more coherent. People don't know how it's almost painful when others expect coherent answers when your brain is not processing correctly. Mr. Williams will probably torture himself once he gets his meds adjusted and is more in touch with reality: he will feel so bad for what he has done! Such a sad case. I'm also assuming people were not taking Mr. William's symptoms seriously before all this happened.
I don’t think we can assume that. An old friend did something similar. We all knew from a year before that he was delusional and dangerous. No one would do anything. His parents had him hospitalized and they let him out after 72 hours. They constantly tried to get him help and there was none. He eventually killed his parents and injured one of his brothers.
I suspect that this interrogation helped prove he was truly having a psychotic break. If they had interviewed him after it was over, there would be no evidence of his symptoms. In any event, it sounds like he is in a psychiatric facility and not prison. I hope he’s finding peace.
Red Tree, you present such interesting cases! This is one of the saddest, most heartbreaking ones I've seen so far. He's clearly not right mentally. Even when talking about his family and how much he loves them and how wonderful they are, his affect us completely flat. Looking in his eyes in the close-up photo at the end, it was easy to see something was very wrong inside of him. I can't imagine what it would be like to finally get on the right meds and be restored to his right mind and be hit with the full horror of what he did and feel grief and guilt fully.
Do they have meds ti comeback from stuff like this? He is old it might get worse
Meds shouldn’t be the first resort. More people do fkd up shizz because of meds than they do without.
Yikes!
The narrator has done a good job in explaining what is going on with this man.
You can have moments of lucidness during a psychotic break and usually occurs during the initial stages of the psychosis.
Lucidness can happen in a full blown episode but it's uncommon. Most people don't remember the full episode of the psychosis.
My final psychiatric diagnosis is DID in remission (formerly Multiple Personality d/o) Bi-polar 1, PTSD in remission, and a few more that I can't remember right now.
My psychosis starts when I become depressed and the depression worsens.
My speech pattern was much like this man in this video.
In 2 of my psychotic episodes, I remember what my hallucinations before a psychotic break. My breaks were preceded by auditory, visual and some tactile hallucinations.
What I hallucinated were baby pink elephants dancing on the ceiling in tutus. The walls would undulated like it was breathing, the room started to look like it was underwater and everything was super sharp and shiney.
And then I was gone. A few days later I would "wake" up having no recollection of what happened between being admitted to waking up.
I also had dissociative fugue states which are short term blackouts. For instance, after work, I would call my husband and let him know I was on the way home and the next thing is I'm in a McDonald's parking lot in another city and a few hours have passed.
From personal experience, work history, and watching Paul, I truly believe that he was experiencing psychosis before, during and after the crime.
When he does go to trial, I hope that he is found guilty but mentally incompetent and is sentenced to the psych unit where he can get the help that he needs.
Edited to add:
Jan. 13, 2022 a judge found Paul Williams incompetent to stand trial.
He was then sent to Treasure Coast Forensic Treatment Center.
www.wcjb.com/2022/01/13/paul-graves-williams-will-appear-court-felony-forensics-hearing/
This is heartbreaking. You can tell he really loved his family.
But he atill killed them. I have no sympathy for this man.
@@MrCarlitosway713 Bc you’ve nvr had a psychotic break. And thank God you nvr have and pray you nvr will instead of trying to understand.
@@MrCarlitosway713 You are heartless. He was clearly unwell and not an evil guy. It's a tragedy all round.
@@MrCarlitosway713 You are either a 14 year old who doesn't understand mental illness or obnoxiously ignorant
@@MrCarlitosway713 you seem not to have great empathy either
Really so sad… reminds me of my grandpa when we started to lose him to dementia. He would respond to questions the same way
It’s sad to think of how many people are homeless with dementia. 😧
Is prison a better place for them?
What resources do families have that can’t afford to care for family members with dementia?
…Especially when the only government funding some politicians support is prisons and the military.
Yeah so sad, my grampa acted the same way.. it’s almost a mirror image.. 🥲 I obvs don’t condone his actions but don’t think people realise how much people suffering these types of mental illnesses n breakdowns have absolutely no sense of reality in that moment n before and after. This video shows this. I definitely think that a jury needs to see this interrogation before throwing the book At him. Also how can this officer read him his rights n truly believe he understands the ramifications if talking without a lawyer or an appropriate adult there with him.. it’s a really sad story!! The police need to be trained a lot more in dealing with suspects with mental health. Especially when clearly showing ‘definite signs’ of a psychotic breakdown!! 😡🥲
I was just thinking the same thing with my grandma.
Poor guy. I witnessed my mom in this state a number of times after dementia. She was always mentally ill and I cared for her most of my life but she got truly dangerous after dementia. The cops refused to take her guns away even after she threatened my life and had a dementia diagnosis.
This is definitely a psychotic break in my opinion. The monotone ramblings and other affects are difficult to successfully fake for such a long time. I do want to comment on the detective though. He was so patient. Even knowing someone was not mentally right, it would’ve been really difficult for me to be patient that long. Good job by him.
That's why you wouldn't be allowed to do that kind of job......hopefully.
never forget the cops looking for his own TROPHY - afterwards cops go out into the HALL and give all his comrads high fives - BECAUSE THEY HIT THEIR TARGET even if they have to lie to get it . Even if they violated someone's rights when they are incoherent .
@@globe2555 That’s exactly what I was saying. 🤓
This is definitely, in my opinion???? what in gods name does that mean lol. So basically not definitely, and just ur opinion??? haha
I thought he was an abusive smart ass.
I dont think this guy is messing around. He is really trying to communicate.
Yeab but he wtill killed his own family. Swallow that for a few seconds.
The way he knew old memories, but not specific details and newer memories are very hard to recall - it looks a lot like dementia or the onset of Alzheimer’s. This is a medical emergency, how awful. It’s so scary that sometimes tragedies like this just happen.
Where did you get your PHD?
@@ShinzoX90 ur mom
@@KaylaDunDunDunIt say that to me over the internet and see what happens!!!!
I remember this interrogation. It was one of the longest and also saddest ones I have ever watched. I commend you for shortening the length because of all his long pauses, and thank you for the commentary! Great upload! 💙
This man is no monster, you can tell this happened because he was stressed and anxious and mentally pushed for so long that his brain just gave way. When he was mentioning his weight and had his shirt off you can see the affect his brain had on him physically.
Honestly this could happen to anyone given the right constant pressure.
I feel really really bad for him. I hope he is able to get back some sort of life and mental health and I pray for the family that lost their lives.
Just very sad all round.
"could happen to anyone given the right constant pressure"
Ummm no.
He's a monster that killed for fun
@@heilzelynsky9746 Did you watch the video? This man is not sane. This whole case is heartbreaking.
@Heil Zelynsky did you watch the video or just read the title before you commented?!
So heartbreaking. It’s so sad that this man and his family weren’t able to get help soon enough.😢
Paul, "So the cat is out of the bag", Me. "you think"? Then Paul put on a cat themed shirt. Priceless. At least the poor guy hasn't lost his sense of humor,. He'll be needing that.
NCR, obviously. Cheers
This scares me beyond belief! My 36 year old son has had two psychotic episodes requiring hospitalization, though he did not harm anyone. This poor man and what he did is horrific but from what I went through with my son, until you’ve experienced it, you cannot imagine the horror.
Grab your bible and start praying to God; He is the only person who can help. Jesus Christ healed lunaticks; this is all to do with demons and they tremble at the name of Jesus Christ and no one else. One of the most common causes of these things is taking drugs by the way but in any case, I hope your son gets saved. It must be devasting to see him suffer.
@@senderoestrecho9142 or you could also take your medication for a start. but yeah feeding into religious delusions is another way to go.
@@machinegurlll Someone posts about their son having psychotic episodes and because I have faith in the God of the bible, I am the one in need of medication, am I? Just thought you´d "throw it out there" huh and see if some mud sticks. I bet if I had spoken about crystals or tarot or the law of attraction or buddhism you wouldn´t say that. Yet the name of Jesus Christ offends those who are perishing because it IS the name above all names.
If you had read my comment properly instead of jumping to conclusions I was encourging the father of the person with psychotic episodes to call out to the Lord, not the person suffering from the episodes who may/may not benefit from medication.
@@senderoestrecho9142 you insinuated hes a lunatic and that drugs caused his problem its called being socially aware dude......... its ok to spread your message but good luck spreading it if thats how youre gonna talk to people
Sleep with one eye open.
"bass disk, go ahead. I'm on the edge of my seat sir." 😂
It’s absolutely disgusting to even attempt to interrogate someone so clearly psychotic. 51/50 immediately, wtf??
I completely agree! He should have been taken to a psych ward and seen a psychiatrist and medicated!!
Well interviewing people like this gentleman will probably go in a police training video of what body language and signs to look for
They don't know before If he was playing or not. They will rewatch the video several times with people who know more about psychology than a stupid cop.
Wrong
He still killed 2 people, in this case it is justified to interview the gentleman.
Yeah this is the first case in a long time where I’m not left questioning whether or not the guilty party may have been acting or not! He has very much suffered a break, basically his mind has splintered in a way, the racing thoughts and incoherent speech pattern are harder to fake than many believe. He’s literally having to reach for every word, this happens when the mind is pretty much overwhelmed with all the information of current circumstances coming into your mind all at once.
Sounds to me that a Dr has made changes to his normal medication, whatever was changed had a massive effect on this man’s brain chemistry, possibly being the cause for the break more so than his original diagnosis.
This often happens when a patient has, for whatever reason, changes to a new Dr, maybe one that doesn’t know the patients full history personally, or sometimes wrongly dismisses the previous Drs diagnosis due to changes of medical research in this man’s lifetime.
It sounds like this man lead a pretty normal life with a loving family up to this point!
I saw no indication at all that he didn’t genuinely love his family, nor any resentment of them.
His actions completely contradicting his normal life, that’s a pretty big clue!
@Jason Ardley, As I watched this interview and this man's movements and demeanor, I couldn't help but also see some medication induced Tardive Dyskinesia-
This is so sad. I have bipolar disorder and I can identify with what this man went through. I was manic for months and it culminated in a psychotic break that started at work. I was not violent but it altered my life irrevocably. My psychotic break was triggered by cascading events of stressful situations that occurred in my life and that event was how I was diagnosed with BP.
I was married to a woman for 20 years that was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. People with mental issues have such a tough time.
He's in an advanced state if dissassociative shock, a combo of denial and remorse that has become cognitively crippling. So tragic.
None of that is real. This was a thrill kill for sexually gratification. Look at the chub he had when he took his shirt off.
@@heilzelynsky9746 the poor dude, it's so sad. Just no impulse control at all, no doubt disgusted scared and out of rope. You may be right, he's just so sickly vicious he has spontaneous wood.
@Heil Zelynsky ok incel
Are you his doctor? How do you know he's in denial and remorse? Imo he has no clue why he's there or what he's done. But that's my opinion, I'm not a medical professional. Only doctors should be handing out Diagnosis!
@@alongfellow4147 The problem with the doctor's diagnosis is, that he didn't know the patient beforehand.
Maybe there are videos from this man from 2015 or 2017, you would be shocked how different he was most likely. Maybe he was kind, generous, loving.
Kindly look up the etymology of psychosis.
He obviously needed to rest and get help. This is really heart breaking to watch
Reminds me of how my dementia clients communicate.
This sounds like the ultimate nightmare. You get so stressed that your mind snaps and you horrifically murder the people you love the most. And if you snap back to reality, you find yourself in an interrogation room, or jail and realise what you did, and where you will spend the rest of your life. The images that must pop into Williams' mind every day and night, I can't even imagine.
The worst case I can think of is that kid in Florida, who had a psychotic break. He went crazy, went up to a random couple and killed both of them. The psychotic kid are the poor man's face off, while alive. When he came back to reality, he just kept crying and repeating that he was living in a waking nightmare. So sad!
Id say not much is popping in or out of his mind
@@katet4554 he didn't have a psychotic break. He was on drugs and had been planning to do something. He did however claim to have a had psychotic break, have a million dollar defense team and prosecutor who gave up on the trial bc a judge made a ruling that messed up a piece of their case. very sad as he will get out one day.
THAT is SCAREY!!!
@@mobileasaurussource?
It is so sad to live a long life like this then lose your mind and hurt your love ones.😢
People are saying he is faking it because he is aware of the psychotic break but I think that people who have experienced psychosis before can be aware that something is wrong. He could just be repeating these things like “break from reality” and “strange thought patterns” because he has heard other people use them to describe another episode he may have had in the past? Idk I am not an expert but it is interesting to think about
I could imagine him saying that to himself, trying to calm himself, "I am having a break from reality, I need to understand this isn't right."
Having seen psychotic breaks it's not unusual for people to just blurt out random thoughts. He seems to have some self-awareness as to what's happening even if it's disorganized so I think he may simply have been noticing his psychotic state. He'd been this way for days by this point.
You do have intermittent moments of clarity. Not even moments of clarity really, but you know something is wrong. The problem is you're not in the driver's seat anymore. You're riding the emotions and thoughts instead of actively controlling them. It's so hard to explain to "normal" people.
I can tell you from personal experience you are right asks it is absolutely possible during psychosis to know something is very wrong and you actually start thinking your losing your mind. And wc though you know that it is impossible to change the way your brain is thinking as far a delusions and paranoia
@@themonsterbaby in my diabetic blackouts, i get moments of confused clarity, but then it just goes. Took me 2 hours to call 911 once, 2 hours of confusion.
After blacking out a lot, you seem to be able to learn it is happening...but affecting your thoughts and actions is mostly too much to do.
This is some thought provoking stuff right here. Heartbreaking. Really enjoying this channel for all the little known cases.
I can’t stand immoral law workers. This detective is disgusting. I feel hatred for him.
Tragically sad yet fascinating. He seems to have lived such a beautiful and laid back life before this mess.
My sister is high functioning schizophrenic. she reminds me of this guy so much at times. like you ask a simple question and if they are having a delusion, it feels like they are ignoring you or being rude. they are not. it can et frustrating if there delusions go on too long or intensity
multitablez - I had a friend act like that years ago when we were young. She was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia and said that sometimes it can be cause by an accident. She'd gotten hit in her head with a swing when she was little and they found scar tissue on her brain there. I always remembered that. One of my daughters go into a terrible car crash years ago and she had to take meds to keep from seeing things that weren't there. It was scary, one time she said that while we were driving on the highway she saw someone running along side the car.
Is that high functioning?
How on earth did this detective continue to push him for so long? He's clearly incapable of stringing together a single thought. This is torture for both of them
Psych RN here, this a psychotic break. When he is medicated and therapeutic, the regret will come.
We are all this close to losing it 🤏🏼.. all it takes is an illness injury stress. The mind is so delicate. This man loved his family.
Lol takes a bit more than that !
The mind isn’t delicate at all. The trauma people survive is insane. Guess some are just stronger and smarter than others
@@zhaviyah84 Yes the mind itself is strong.. But I think she meant the PHYSICALITY of things. One chemical imbalance (of course other factors play into it) and BOOM, you get depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, dementia, and all sorts of issues. One injury to the brain and BOOM, you lost your most precious memories. It’s very fascinating how this all can happen to us. Its sad when it happens to a loved one 😞
@@zhaviyah84 what are you even trying to argue? That illness, injury, stress can't cause psychosis? That's.. some impressive state of denial you've put yourself into.
@@zhaviyah84 "guess some are just stronger and smarter than others" jesus. I might have schizoaffective but somehow, thankfully, I'm more empathetic than you. Guess my trauma made me more kind than yours did.
I think it's real , My dad tried to do the same thing ,Thankfully my mom survived and my brother was able to hold him down until the police arrived. My dad spent a year locked up in a hospital . My dad was never the same again ,he spent the rest of his life in and out of mental hospitals .
What I don't realize is why in such cases the cops continue to talk to these "suspects". Like in the case of Ryan Waller, the guy could clearly see/hear something was wrong and he just kept pushing. In this case, too. Won't it all be for nought, even if you get a confession, if in the end it is discovered that the person was mentally inhibited? Aren't you just going to waste your time? Why not take the hour or two to get a medical opinion before you continue? I understand some people will be lying, but in cases where it is so realistic...seems weird to me...
Ikr. Either they're stupid or sadistic.
idk if this is true for this case specifically but it's difficult to get ahold of a psychiatrist so quickly. if theyre waiting for one there's nothing better for them to do, and sometimes in a psychotic episode there are small moments of clarity or the person has some awareness of their actions
Even if he confesses will it hold up in court? This is really hard to watch.
@@nolabrown460 there’s no way this confession would be allowed in court…
The purpose of the interrogation is to gather more information. The fact that he's so clearly suffering in this will be strong evidence for his defense. It's also the only way to figure out if someone is just faking it or not. It usually takes several months of observation to diagnose schizophrenia so the movie footage they have the better. So it's not that useful for fact finding it does give us some sense of his state of mind.
This was extremely sad to watch. Just truly tragic all around.
This is one of the most heartbreaking interviews I have ever seen. I have seen so many murderers try to fake a psychosis and this man is not faking. What he did was horrible, but I would bet anything that he would never have done it in his right mind. I pray he is getting the help he needs. I also pray that the rest of his family is getting help as well.
Poor man needs a lot of help. Thankfully this police officer was gentle enough with him, and seemed to recognise something wasnt right with this man.
Poor man needs to be 6 ft under
He's definitely in a state of psychosis. I've experienced them on a couple occasions because of prescribed medications that didn't agree with my body, thankfully for a very short period (1-2 days), and it is scary.
You feel totally out of touch with reality and have a hard time processing simple thoughts out loud. I almost felt possessed, not like myself at all and like someone else was trying to control my mind. I would be in a state of frustration/anger when I'm normally a very calm and caring person.
It was pretty scary for me...
I was interested in the introduction that they mentioned he had started some new medication. Some medications have been proved to induce psychosis in some people. I wonder if his mental health was destabilized by this. He is definitely in the throes of a psychotic break.... I feel very sad for him and his family.
Yes I looked it up he is still there until they find him capable of going to trial
Actually, it is highly likely that you were/are possesed with devils. These are real beings without bodies and I have seen them. The bible is the truth. Without Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour you will be taken down to the pits of hell. I´m only telling you because I am not supposed to supress the truth if I care about others. My cousin has szchizophrenia and I told him the same thing but it´s his choice; we all have free will to decide who to believe and who to follow, but when our last day on earth comes, we will be in one of two eternities.
@SoftserveSodium prozac and some adhd med similar to Ritalin, i forget the name but it's the same chemical i believe.
I never had issues with Vyvanse, that's what i take for my adhd but when i tried that other one it put me in a psychosis like state for a couple days. Same thing happened with Prozac but i little less severe.
same here, except it was an antipsychotic(seroquel) that gave it to me, and I was given it for 2 weeks in the psych ward for some reason until i refused to take it in a moment of clarity and started getting better.
The longer you are psychotic the worse it gets. At the end I had episodes, where my entire reality was just replaced with a hallucinated reality for a few hours.
I wouldnt even have known if I had done something bad, and i lost a lot of memories about that time.
As horrible as what he did was, my heart goes out to this guy, he's definetly psychotic. Just a heartbreaking situation all around.
This makes me cry. My brother has several mental diagnosis and has disjointed thoughts, can’t focus, and now stutters.
If guy is faking. He's the best faker I've seen. I think its psychotic break
This is so sad for this gentleman and his family. I had a volunteer suffer a psychotic break once and he made sense intermittently. I had to keep him at work until the EMT's arrived. Not an easy task but he was transported to the hospital, admitted and treated. It broke my heart!
He starts off every reply by repeating the last few words the interviewer says, then gets lost for words…..damn shame this interviewer didn’t even pick up on that as a possible mental break.
A relative of mine keeps accusing me of bipolar and/or having a psychotic break. I provided all medical records to disprove her claims. She even attempted to breach my password in my online medical records. She wants to commit me but my husband has my back. Just saying, some folks don’t have your best interests in mind and use their influence to color the truth.
She sounds evil and dangerous cut all contact.
Errr what does your story have to do with this video? You sound like a loony
He is 100% not faking this. I work at a nursing home/ rehab for seniors and he reminds me of one resident I care for.
may those innocent victims rest in peace :(
Who said they were innocent?
Love how the cop doesn’t care if he’s senile…they don’t want truth. Just to win.
Soooo true! Typical blue line bullshit!
He killed his family that’s all that matters
I really like the interrogations vids that include crime scene photos, the emergency call (if applicable) mug shots, news reports, and other interviews that coincide with the case.
This channel has good audio which I appreciate..
Sending positive vibes from the Windy City 💚
Take care of yourselves and each other *ALWAYS*
This is so unbelievably sad.... Something in this world that breaks my heart everytime is that people who have serious mental health issues or are prone to psychotic break deserve so much love and to feel safe and have a normal life but then things like this happen and it's such a tragedy all around, it makes you afraid to love people who have those types of problems, sometimes for your own safety, sometimes for theirs. They can be the best husband, father, friend, brother but have one bad day and suddenly they're not the same person you know and trust. It still doesn't mean who he ACTUALLY is isn't deserving of the love his family gave him, the trust they gave him. There are absolutely no winners in this, just a huge tragedy and many many many people with broken hearts....
This is really sad to watch. Even after what he did you can tell how much he loves his family and had he been in his right mind he never would have hurt them.
i wasn't expecting "professional disk sports" when paul was asked what he was into.
When someone is bleeding or screaming in physical pain, we call a doctor for healing. When someone's mind is obviously broken, we call police to punish them.
he murdered his family dude