A splendid performance. As an interesting side note, Scharwenka performed this piece in concert on November 27, 1910 with the New York Philharmonic, conducted by Gustav Mahler.
@@GrantusGreenwood Scharwenka also appeared with Mahler and the NYPO in 2 performances of Beethoven's Piano Concerto 5, on December 13 and 16 of 1910.
Extraordinary example of virtuoso brilliance. Emblematic of its time. A monumental musical edifice of late romanticism which was soon to come crashing down with two world wars and the onset of modernism. A swan song celebrating the magnificent sunset on a magnificent epoch. I am very grateful for the post since I was not aquatinted with this composer. He is, perhaps, one of several notable composers languishing in the long shadows of his more famous contemporaries. Hidden composers who are worthy of discovery seem not to be uncommon in the history of classical western music, indeed even today, as we speak, who are the ones not being listened to, not getting a look-in ? 🙏
Just when you think you've seen it all, you find a new golden gem in the crown. Thank you for uploading these incredible pieces. I've discovered so much by your videos! :)
Been a fan of his Piano Concerti for a while. I never tire hearing another performer tackle the 4th. One of the most technically challenging? Sure, I clearly hear that. Great orchestration, too.
I bought a new cd at the time 25 years ago with Stephen Hough, as soloist. I used to play in my car every time I went out. Haven’t heard it for some time and forgot how thrilling the finale is.
Oliver Daniel`s biography "Stokowski, A Counterpoint of View" brought me here. The conductor made an enormous splash his first season in Cincinnati to the point that several music journals of the day sent their critics to the city to review some concerts. In 1911 among the works we`ve taken for granted, this piano concerto was one he had performed that season, too. Naturally if Stokowski thought it worthwhile. that was good enough for me to look it up. No disappointment here!
Fabulous, thank you so much for sharing all this gorgeous music. Keep doing it. It really lifts up my spirit listening . Am 82 Year old music-lover.👍👍👍👍🌹🌹🌹🌹🆒🆒🆒🆒🤗🤗🤗🤗
Ein wahres Zeugnis der romantischen Klavierkunst! Diese Finesse und Kraft des Orchester und diese Ästhetik des Klaviers bilden eine profilierende Einheit, die man nicht oft in Konzerten dieser Art findet. Zwar erinnert mich die harmonische Struktur etwas an Grieg, doch differenziert sich der Komponist trotzdem von der skandinavischen Melodik und schafft sich somit eine autonome Stellung. Bravo! Majestätisch! Grandios!
I just happened to hear this work on the radio; that is how I discovered it. I've listened to it now here and I think it is an excellent concerto, my favourite of his four (I listened to the other three posted on your channel also). This is an interesting and exciting work, and since I liked the performance here I have just gone and purchased it (if I find a performance I like I will often try to buy that exact recording; sometimes other recordings disappoint when you've already heard one that you like). I also ended up buying a recording of his Symphony in C Minor while I was at it - I liked what I heard in the track samples.
I searched a long time for great late romantic piano concertos that weren't written by Brahms, Chopin or Rachmaninoff. Incredible piano and symphonic writing. There's stuff in there that reminds me of Mahler.
What a wonderful concerto and a fine performance. Scharwenka's concerti need to find their way into the repertoire. I can't think of a more swashbuckling piece than the Second.
One of my favorite pieces of music, always looking for a live performance to attend, but so far unsuccessful. This should be in the pantheon of the most played concerti.
@@juan31188 he seguido tu consejo y ya los he oído. Efectivamente los tres son muy buenos y me quedo con el n°3. Me pregunto ¿Dónde ha estado la obra de este autor que nos resulta tan desconocido? Saludos y gracias por el consejo. 👍
This is a marvelous piece of music, thrilling and of great beauty. The Intermezzo nearly brings tears. What a shame it languished so long in obscurity, until a couple of recent recordings.The solo part needs a virtuoso of the highest caliber to bring it off, as is done here.
Great, really enjoy it. I hope you keep sharing beautiful music. I have a Bluetooth headphone to listen with. It gives me the feeling being in a fantastically great concerthall, and it’s only 8:30 am.👍🤗🍾🥂happy Newyear.
To date one of the most terrifying concerto scores I've seen, though Busoni's still holds the place for most nightmarish score I've encountered in the concerto genre (though if I ever get my hands on the score to Dillon's Andromeda that could very easily change, lol).
+olla-vogala If you're not familiar with his style it can definitely be a tad overwhelming... the sheer density of musical information is off the charts and at first it's very difficult to figure out where the themes are. I wasn't very invested at first, but after a few more listens I honestly think it's one of the finest 21st century concertos, and without a doubt a high point in the "New Complexity" movement.
I absolutely love this piano concerto! Do you know if it is possible to find the orchestra parts online somewhere? I am a student interested in orchestration, and this piece would be fun to analyze.
I've been listening to this concerto a lot, and honestly I think it might very well be at masterpiece level. I don't like Scharwenka's first two, number 3 is interesting but "weird", but this one really hits the spot in many, many ways. I'm considering practicing it...
Eccezionale concerto!Sublime e nostalgicamente romantico.Peccato non sia eseguita in sala da concerto! Ottima la performance pianistica e orchestrale. Un grazie per questo stupendo inserimento.
Starting ~4:40, 5:48 sounds a lot like Schumann's Eusebius, with the turns in the right and especially the glissandos in the left! ruclips.net/video/3f0_WoTi1Zg/видео.html
While it's loosely assembled if not great! and has iits dead spots, the 4 mvt. idee fixe form is highly imaginative. The emotions are sentimentality, nostalgia with elements of sarcasm and self pity. It's cute if not great.
Two different composers with sublime musicality. I wouldn't try to place one above the other, myself. Unfortunately, both are mired in the "unknown and unplayed" morass of modern concert planning. If I found either on a reasonably local concert playlist, you can count on my finding a way to get there.
+olla-vogala Trolls come in all forms and shapes, and the reasons for "dislikes" can vary. Most NASA videos get spammed with hundreds of dislikes from people claiming it is all fake, to those claiming to believe in a flat Earth. Building implosion videos get spammed by 9/11 conspiracy cockroaches. CERN gets spammed by religious fanatics. For all you know, the "dislikes" might be from disgruntled kazoo players.
As of 1/8/18 I count seven dislikes. Is that such a large number as to cause such surprise? Mind you, I like this work and voted so. But there is nothing egregious about 7 dislikes versus almost 200 likes.
I cannot understand the problem you have with Chopin's music. He wrote wonderful piano music. Why must everything and everybody be compared . I like Chopin, Beethoven, Scharwenka, Czerny and all the others composers as well. Don't compare and hate, love them all and enjoy it!
Well, well... no melody? That depends on what kind of melodies do you like. I love Scharwenka's as well as Bortkiewicz's. Or perhaps you should clear your ears of the earwax?
@@tancreddehauteville764 I guess you hear a lot of melodies by others with your fine ear, perhaps the problem is between your ears. Pity on you. From here a matter of taste so we have nothing to discuss further. Enjoy your Bach or Schnittke..
@@tancreddehauteville764 As a devout Bortkiewicz fan, i do favor his 1. concerto. However i encourage you to listen to this and his second, as the Scharwenka concertos have a lot of beautiful melodies, hidden underneath the showy parts. The final movement of his second concerto is an amazing quasi-scherzo, with a melody that is incredibly catchy
@@Quotenwagnerianer Agreed! I love them all. Perhaps Czeyner had had enough of only hearing Chopin and Beethoven in concerts. For a while I'd also had enough of them but then I came back to listening to everything, this one certainly included. The comparison is what is rather lame, as you've suggested.
I agree with those who the 4th is exciting but it is not better than the first 2. It is somewhat contrived, forced and full of sarcasm, implicit pathos, extreme emotional fluctuations, variation in musical quality and expresses a last-ditch effort to "get it up"!
Scharwenka announced that he was going to write his "biggest" and "best" concerto. The result- coming from a minor mode, he forces tepid and oversentimentally lyrical meanderings, literally "pushes" the flow, grandstands his main theme, indulges in self pity throughout the 1st mvt. The scherzo gives further indulgence into recrimination and self sorrow. And the final coup de grace, the ungainly cymbal crash in the finale, all add up to the "over the hill" sarcasm of which Nielsen's 6th Symphony is the best example. While friendly and entertaining, this is clearly a composer who can no longer "get it up" as he so effectively does in Concs. 1 and 2, opp. 32 and 56.
A splendid performance. As an interesting side note, Scharwenka performed this piece in concert on November 27, 1910 with the New York Philharmonic, conducted by Gustav Mahler.
Similar to Rachmaninoff with his 3rd Concerto
That is a valuable piece of context - thank you so much
@@SCRIABINIST Specifically, Rachmaninoff performed his 3rd Piano Concerto with Mahler and the NYPO in an afternoon concert on January 16, 1910.
@@GrantusGreenwood Scharwenka also appeared with Mahler and the NYPO in 2 performances of Beethoven's Piano Concerto 5, on December 13 and 16 of 1910.
That fourth movement is a masterpiece!
fourth movement is SUCH a banger
Truly an unknown masterpiece. The cyclic theme is so emotional, and I think the last two movements belong among the greatest concerto piano movements.
Extraordinary example of virtuoso brilliance. Emblematic of its time. A monumental musical edifice of late romanticism which was soon to come crashing down with two world wars and the onset of modernism. A swan song celebrating the magnificent sunset on a magnificent epoch. I am very grateful for the post since I was not aquatinted with this composer. He is, perhaps, one of several notable composers languishing in the long shadows of his more famous contemporaries. Hidden composers who are worthy of discovery seem not to be uncommon in the history of classical western music, indeed even today, as we speak, who are the ones not being listened to, not getting a look-in ? 🙏
All the scharwenka concertos are great, this one is the best with no. 3 in a close second. Such a beautiful slow movement
You're sleeping on no.1
Just when you think you've seen it all, you find a new golden gem in the crown. Thank you for uploading these incredible pieces. I've discovered so much by your videos! :)
+trp8155 I'm happy to hear that! Slowly but surely forgotten gems like this are getting back their deserved spotlight this way :)
can gems be golden? 🤔
Topaz
@@olla-vogala4090 Honest question - how are your videos not taken down with all your copyrighted scores?
Look at top 100 hardwst piano concertos, you'll find an enormous list of beautiful (and others not so much) piano concertos and hours of music
wow he really likes octaves
slubert - Also Black Notes.....if you check the score, then you'll see that he uses so many of them.....
@@steveegallo3384 And he likes Allegros and Allegro pateticos
Tchaikovsky....
37:16 my head starts moving on its own
so much
The third movement is absolutely wonderful...
Been a fan of his Piano Concerti for a while. I never tire hearing another performer tackle the 4th. One of the most technically challenging? Sure, I clearly hear that. Great orchestration, too.
I bought a new cd at the time 25 years ago with Stephen Hough, as soloist. I used to play in my car every time I went out. Haven’t heard it for some time and forgot how thrilling the finale is.
Post brahmsien et proche de Liszt le 4 e de Scharwenka envoûte par ses mélodies et sa virtuosité ! Un pur délice !
Its on the top 10 of my favorite piano concertos.
Oliver Daniel`s biography "Stokowski, A Counterpoint of View" brought me here. The conductor made an enormous splash his first season in Cincinnati to the point that several music journals of the day sent their critics to the city to review some concerts. In 1911 among the works we`ve taken for granted, this piano concerto was one he had performed that season, too. Naturally if Stokowski thought it worthwhile. that was good enough for me to look it up. No disappointment here!
Fabulous, thank you so much for sharing all this gorgeous music. Keep doing it. It really lifts up my spirit listening . Am 82 Year old music-lover.👍👍👍👍🌹🌹🌹🌹🆒🆒🆒🆒🤗🤗🤗🤗
Majestic, grand and filled with poignant melodies. Why isn’t this performed more?
I don't know, but I would guess because of what is said in the second to last paragraph in the description above.
Because it’s not modern enough for 1904
A remarkable work, particularly stunning in its expansive, Olympian first movement. Many thanks for posting this daunting gem!
Absolutely beautiful. Lush, intelligent, passionate, and full of joyful expression.
Incredibly well-crafted piece! Beautiful
Ein wahres Zeugnis der romantischen Klavierkunst! Diese Finesse und Kraft des Orchester und diese Ästhetik des Klaviers bilden eine profilierende Einheit, die man nicht oft in Konzerten dieser Art findet. Zwar erinnert mich die harmonische Struktur etwas an Grieg, doch differenziert sich der Komponist trotzdem von der skandinavischen Melodik und schafft sich somit eine autonome Stellung. Bravo! Majestätisch! Grandios!
Allsthese composers must've been crazy hearing these sounds in head all time
I think they were happy to create.
It’s beautiful
I just happened to hear this work on the radio; that is how I discovered it. I've listened to it now here and I think it is an excellent concerto, my favourite of his four (I listened to the other three posted on your channel also). This is an interesting and exciting work, and since I liked the performance here I have just gone and purchased it (if I find a performance I like I will often try to buy that exact recording; sometimes other recordings disappoint when you've already heard one that you like). I also ended up buying a recording of his Symphony in C Minor while I was at it - I liked what I heard in the track samples.
I searched a long time for great late romantic piano concertos that weren't written by Brahms, Chopin or Rachmaninoff. Incredible piano and symphonic writing. There's stuff in there that reminds me of Mahler.
There are a lot of them: Medtner, Moskowski, Poulenc, Faure with his Ballade, even Scriabin with his pre mature concerto ...
He is really great! Reminds me of Scharwenka.
Autores incríveis que poucos amantes da grande música conseguem ouvir.
I haven't heard this concerto in a very long time - and it's as beautiful as I remembered it. Thanks for sharing it.
This, along with Stenhammar 2 and Moszkowski, is one of my favorite underrated/unknown concertos.
Which Moszkowski
@@sebastian-benedictflore No 2
@@sebastian-benedictflore Jerry.
Bliss
What about Bortkiewicz? His piano concerto compositions are good as well.
Passionate and charming by turns. Wonderful piece.
Very beautiful concert, thank you ! 💗🎵🎶🎹🎼🌷🌷🌷 (Netherlands) I have put this on Face-Book.
Néoroman tique et post Lisztien ,Scharwenka nous subjugue avec ses 4 concerti et en particulier le dernier ! Interprétation hors pair !
all of his works are so underrated!
The melodies at 24:20 are just gorgeus! I would also say very soundtrack-like (Liszt's influence I guess)
What a wonderful concerto and a fine performance. Scharwenka's concerti need to find their way into the repertoire. I can't think of a more swashbuckling piece than the Second.
Thank you for posting this beautiful piece of music. Have a wonderful day.
was für ein verstecktes Juwel später Romantik! Danke fürs Ausgraben
Excellent performance!! I wonder why such a wonderful composer has been almost disregarded in international repertoires.
One of my favorite pieces of music, always looking for a live performance to attend, but so far unsuccessful. This should be in the pantheon of the most played concerti.
La tonalità minore è sempre grandiosa.
Es la primera vez que oigo este co cierto y lo calificó de SOBERBIO. Gracias.
Tenes que escuchar los otros 3 anteriores, un genio olvidado.
@@juan31188 he seguido tu consejo y ya los he oído. Efectivamente los tres son muy buenos y me quedo con el n°3. Me pregunto ¿Dónde ha estado la obra de este autor que nos resulta tan desconocido?
Saludos y gracias por el consejo. 👍
Very interesting and attractive work! Thank you for sharing it!
Amazing left hand in the last movement!
This is a marvelous piece of music, thrilling and of great beauty. The Intermezzo nearly brings tears. What a shame it languished so long in obscurity, until a couple of recent recordings.The solo part needs a virtuoso of the highest caliber to bring it off, as is done here.
Great, really enjoy it. I hope you keep sharing beautiful music. I have a Bluetooth headphone to listen with. It gives me the feeling being in a fantastically great concerthall, and it’s only 8:30 am.👍🤗🍾🥂happy Newyear.
Divine.
Roundabout 36:05 Hough seems to cut the Sforzando F in his pioneering recording .
To date one of the most terrifying concerto scores I've seen, though Busoni's still holds the place for most nightmarish score I've encountered in the concerto genre (though if I ever get my hands on the score to Dillon's Andromeda that could very easily change, lol).
+Haden Plouffe Yes the ending to this concerto is this ridiculous... I am not yet familiar with Dillon's Andromeda, I'll listen to it right now.
+olla-vogala If you're not familiar with his style it can definitely be a tad overwhelming... the sheer density of musical information is off the charts and at first it's very difficult to figure out where the themes are. I wasn't very invested at first, but after a few more listens I honestly think it's one of the finest 21st century concertos, and without a doubt a high point in the "New Complexity" movement.
Bellissimo!!!!
So he finally composed a really fine concerto.
シャルヴェンカのこの第４協奏曲は、ラフマニノフより劇的で、戦前のハリウッド映画音楽の雰囲気があります。初演を王妃の臨席で行ったのもうなずけます。
🍷 just a recommendation from ig and here i am.
The beginning and the allegretto
Can't seem to find a way not to like it.
I absolutely love this piano concerto! Do you know if it is possible to find the orchestra parts online somewhere? I am a student interested in orchestration, and this piece would be fun to analyze.
I see the full score of this concert and Scharwenka wrote variations and a few modifications, i wonder how It will sound
I've been listening to this concerto a lot, and honestly I think it might very well be at masterpiece level. I don't like Scharwenka's first two, number 3 is interesting but "weird", but this one really hits the spot in many, many ways. I'm considering practicing it...
start practising ,its fiendishly difficult:-)
I agree, this one is a big step up, especially the adagio
François Xavier Poizat is quite the pianist.
Eccezionale concerto!Sublime e nostalgicamente romantico.Peccato non sia eseguita in sala da concerto! Ottima la performance pianistica e orchestrale.
Un grazie per questo stupendo inserimento.
3rd movement is so good
This is the sort of thing that I could imagine Rachmaninov composing if he was German.
0:35 Liszt's B minor piano sonata
also like Chopin's op.25 nr.10
A glimpse of Chopin's 2nd Ballad, too
😅
why haven't i heard his music before? What other quality music am I missing out on?
Carl Reinecke piano concerts 1-4, violin concert, harp concert, piano compositions by Felix Blumenfeld , Sergej Lyapunov an d Sergej Bortkiewicz
5:40
확실히 좀 덜 알려진 낭만파 작곡가들 피아노 협주곡 중에선 헨젤트1, 모슈콥2랑 샤르벤카4가 가장 들을만 한 것 같기도...
갠적으로 보르트키에비치 1번이랑 쿠르트 아테르베리 피협도 좋은 것 같습니다
0:05 is a good place to start. ^
Been looking everywhere for the 2-piano score (book), plus orchestra parts 😣 can't find them anywhere. I want to play this concerto :(
Astri Aareskjold its a great concerto right?
Musicians are stuck with these sounds,it makes sense tht they would want to write it down
Starting ~4:40, 5:48 sounds a lot like Schumann's Eusebius, with the turns in the right and especially the glissandos in the left! ruclips.net/video/3f0_WoTi1Zg/видео.html
Der 3. Satz!
How is this possible
this looks incredibly hard to play!
Francois Xavier Poizat's performance is no less brilliant than Stephen Hough's...
+mosz1854 Hough's recording is made on Hyperion label so I'm unable to use his recording if I wanted too.
nOIce
11:07
While it's loosely assembled if not great! and has iits dead spots, the 4 mvt. idee fixe form is highly imaginative. The emotions are sentimentality, nostalgia with elements of sarcasm and self pity. It's cute if not great.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
0:22 5 variations on theme by Paganini. lolololololol
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36:02
"Like" on 28 December 2017
I have always liked it. But, I like Mozkowski more.
Two different composers with sublime musicality. I wouldn't try to place one above the other, myself. Unfortunately, both are mired in the "unknown and unplayed" morass of modern concert planning. If I found either on a reasonably local concert playlist, you can count on my finding a way to get there.
why the dislikes..? >:(
+Peter Wang Yes I was wondering about that too, especially since all 3 came together in like 5 minutes... maybe some kind of script?
+olla-vogala Trolls come in all forms and shapes, and the reasons for "dislikes" can vary. Most NASA videos get spammed with hundreds of dislikes from people claiming it is all fake, to those claiming to believe in a flat Earth. Building implosion videos get spammed by 9/11 conspiracy cockroaches. CERN gets spammed by religious fanatics. For all you know, the "dislikes" might be from disgruntled kazoo players.
Peter Wang Good question.
As of 1/8/18 I count seven dislikes. Is that such a large number as to cause such surprise? Mind you, I like this work and voted so. But there is nothing egregious about 7 dislikes versus almost 200 likes.
very beautiful figures, must be great to see live
5:37 Chopin!
Chopin is 💩! Chopin is Overrated
I cannot understand the problem you have with Chopin's music. He wrote wonderful piano music. Why must everything and everybody be compared . I like Chopin, Beethoven, Scharwenka, Czerny and all the others composers as well. Don't compare and hate, love them all and enjoy it!
Vay be
I see a lot of laudatory comments since mine a few weeks ago. Granted, it's friendly, amiable music, so much so that his pants fell down in public!
Boring, just piano fireworks with no melody. Bortkiewicz no.1 - now that is worth hearing!
Well, well... no melody? That depends on what kind of melodies do you like. I love Scharwenka's as well as Bortkiewicz's. Or perhaps you should clear your ears of the earwax?
@@petersimon5231 I hear no melody with Scharwenka, and my ears are fine.
@@tancreddehauteville764 I guess you hear a lot of melodies by others with your fine ear, perhaps the problem is between your ears. Pity on you. From here a matter of taste so we have nothing to discuss further. Enjoy your Bach or Schnittke..
@@tancreddehauteville764 As a devout Bortkiewicz fan, i do favor his 1. concerto. However i encourage you to listen to this and his second, as the Scharwenka concertos have a lot of beautiful melodies, hidden underneath the showy parts. The final movement of his second concerto is an amazing quasi-scherzo, with a melody that is incredibly catchy
Better than the Overrated Chopin And Beethoven
Comparing a 1910 work to works written hundred (Beethoven) and seventy years (Chopin) earlier...
Brilliant idea.
Not!
@@Quotenwagnerianer Agreed! I love them all. Perhaps Czeyner had had enough of only hearing Chopin and Beethoven in concerts. For a while I'd also had enough of them but then I came back to listening to everything, this one certainly included. The comparison is what is rather lame, as you've suggested.
I agree with those who the 4th is exciting but it is not better than the first 2. It is somewhat contrived, forced and full of sarcasm, implicit pathos, extreme emotional fluctuations, variation in musical quality and expresses a last-ditch effort to "get it up"!
one who can't "get it up" as in Concs. 1 and 2.
Something of a potboiler: too many notes.
There's never too many notes ...
Scharwenka announced that he was going to write his "biggest" and "best" concerto. The result- coming from a minor mode, he forces tepid and oversentimentally lyrical meanderings, literally "pushes" the flow, grandstands his main theme, indulges in self pity throughout the 1st mvt. The scherzo gives further indulgence into recrimination and self sorrow. And the final coup de grace, the ungainly cymbal crash in the finale, all add up to the "over the hill" sarcasm of which Nielsen's 6th Symphony is the best example. While friendly and entertaining, this is clearly a composer who can no longer "get it up" as he so effectively does in Concs. 1 and 2, opp. 32 and 56.
1. no
2. chill dude saying that once is enough we get it youre not a fan
3. i like this the best out of his four (in case anyone cared)