Sergei Bortkiewicz : Piano Sonata no. 2 in C-sharp minor, Op. 60 (performed by Jouni Somero)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2020
  • Sergei Bortkiewicz (1877-1952)
    Piano Sonata no. 2 in C# minor, Op. 60 (1941-42)
    I. Allegro ma non troppo - C# minor - 0:12
    Audio: • Piano Sonata No. 2 in ...
    II. Allegretto - C# minor 8:20
    Audio: • Piano Sonata No. 2 in ...
    III. Andante misericordioso - C# major 14:02
    Audio: • Piano Sonata No. 2 in ...
    IV. Agitato - C# minor 22:35
    Audio: • Piano Sonata No. 2 in ...
    Performer: Jouni Somero
    Sheet music: en.scorser.com/Out/4768540.html
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Комментарии • 287

  • @berthill2305
    @berthill2305 3 года назад +149

    We should be indebted to Jouni Somero rather than criticise his playing. He has brought us some relatively unknown gems, and this is one of the best. He points out the composers little tributes to Chopin Scriabin, Rachmaninoff and others in a carefully crafted way. Bortkiewicz is in the shadow of Rachmaninoff Scriabin ands Medtner, but his music is compelling in it's own way. This is a great listen for lovers of late romantic piano music as I am.

    • @JouniSomeroMusic
      @JouniSomeroMusic 3 года назад +20

      Thank You!!

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +1

      I'm very sorry, but why waste time with bad playing of bad music... There are many examples of music, which doesn't deserve to stand in the dark, but sometimes the public taste doesn't fail

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark Год назад +37

      @@andreassorg7294 why wasting time commenting ?

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +2

      @@SeigneurReefShark Commenting wastes much less time than badly practising bad music

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +1

      Ok, I can compose two I-VI-V-I cadencas and three I-VI-V-VI-IV-I-V-I cadencas and tell the world that, although I stand in the shadow of Mozart and Beethoven, I'm compelling my on way. And - please - do not offend the shadow of Rachmaninov, Scriabin and Medtner

  • @nintendianajones64
    @nintendianajones64 7 месяцев назад +13

    His 2 Sonatas sound like a mix of Chopin's Ballades, Scherzi and Nocturnes and I love it.

    • @FoxyJohn
      @FoxyJohn 7 дней назад +1

      I’d agree but it’s almost as though rachmaninoff was the one rearranging the combination of those pieces into this sonata.

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST 2 года назад +46

    Honestly Bortkiewicz Sonatas are amazing. Who cares they sound like Chopin or Scriabin in parts? It's amazing anyways.

    • @blackrachmaninov
      @blackrachmaninov 7 месяцев назад +4

      and Rachmaninov :)) 1:25

    • @v_anh_b6474
      @v_anh_b6474 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@blackrachmaninovRachmaninoff is the one sounding like Bortkiewicz, check the dates

  • @tfpp1
    @tfpp1 3 года назад +101

    1:25 - The sequence at measure 30 is lifted straight out of Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.

    • @conman0414
      @conman0414 3 года назад +20

      I thought i was going crazy! I knew i heard Rachmaninoff there!

    • @richardpogoson
      @richardpogoson 2 года назад +3

      Rach got robbed 😂😂

    • @LedoPiano
      @LedoPiano 2 года назад +12

      2:50 - This part too!

    • @churnyeechong2427
      @churnyeechong2427 2 года назад

      I think Rachmaninoff lifted his idea instead.

    • @tfpp1
      @tfpp1 2 года назад +33

      @@churnyeechong2427 Highly unlikely since Rachmaninoff wrote his piano concerto some 40 years earlier.

  • @kohs.3876
    @kohs.3876 3 года назад +136

    The most underrated sonata ever

    • @mikeweaver8790
      @mikeweaver8790 2 года назад +21

      Most of Bortkiewicz's music is some of the most underrated music ever for that matter, at least in my opinion.

    • @r0mmm
      @r0mmm 2 года назад +3

      I agree 100000%

    • @robertwalker2052
      @robertwalker2052 2 года назад

      But also: Second Sonata for Piano by Fartien Valen.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 2 года назад +2

      It's rated just as it deserves.

    • @thebatman6991
      @thebatman6991 Год назад +1

      @@Pogouldangeliwitz What do you mean precisly?

  • @RobertSoppa
    @RobertSoppa 2 года назад +21

    4:13 starts the main theme of Kalinnikovs 1st Symphony.

  • @harrylee3898
    @harrylee3898 3 года назад +37

    He really did love to imitate other composers and add his own style. One piece and I hear Rach 3's 2nd Mov, Grieg's Peer Gynt (Aese's Death), Chopin's Berceuse and other themes I can't remember right now but that I've already definitely heard. Like W.H. Davenport Adams once said, "Great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil.", same goes for music.

    • @fredrickroll
      @fredrickroll 3 года назад +5

      The main theme of the first movement is partly a quote from the main theme of Tchaikovsky's "Manfred" Symphony.

    • @Aaron-hq4bu
      @Aaron-hq4bu Год назад +6

      Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal.-Lionel Trilling

    • @icanogar
      @icanogar 11 месяцев назад +1

      This is the late late late Romantic version of the meme-like videos "Happy birthday in the style of 8 classical composers".

    • @sucroseboy4940
      @sucroseboy4940 Месяц назад

      “Good artist take inspiration. Great artist steal” -Stravinsky

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 3 года назад +28

    24:14 what a wonderful climax!

  • @r0mmm
    @r0mmm 3 года назад +16

    This is the best thing I have ever heard in my live

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 11 месяцев назад +4

    I've been losing my mind for some time but that darkly sunny music, among many others, helps me to float, to keep my head above water💥

  • @archibotgd9466
    @archibotgd9466 5 месяцев назад +15

    0:13 - the first theme from etude “La Brunne”, op.29-3
    0:50 - again
    1:09 - the second theme from op.29-3
    1:26 - Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No.2, op.18
    1:38 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No.1, op.23
    1:57 - Taneev - Prelude and fugue, op.29
    2:50 - Chopin - Piano Concerto No.2, op.21

  • @azur8439
    @azur8439  4 года назад +43

    I. Allegro ma non troppo - C# minor - 0:12
    II. Allegretto - C# minor 8:20
    III. Andante misericordioso - C# major 14:02
    IV. Agitato - C# minor 22:35

  • @williambunter3311
    @williambunter3311 2 года назад +9

    The Allegretto is so wonderful!

  • @alexandersimons9770
    @alexandersimons9770 Год назад +11

    4:13
    4:39
    note for myself. unforgettable melody

    • @firoza8994
      @firoza8994 Год назад +5

      that's lifted from kalinnikov's 1st symphony, which you should check out

    • @alexandersimons9770
      @alexandersimons9770 Год назад +4

      yeah I noticed the similarity as well. though I have to admit a slight bias towards the piano

  • @r0mmm
    @r0mmm 3 года назад +44

    I love how he uses the first Motiv in every movement. He's such a genius.

    • @jackcurley1591
      @jackcurley1591 Год назад +3

      It’s also the main motif in his Etude op 29 No 3 :)

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +1

      Listen to Richard Clayderman. You will be killed by such a genius

    • @Spark-pv9js
      @Spark-pv9js Год назад +2

      And c minor concerto for left hand also

    • @Obuchnyichelovechek
      @Obuchnyichelovechek Год назад

      @@jackcurley1591 YEEES! I’m played that etude

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +2

      It's the first thing you learn as a composer

  • @doritodog6242
    @doritodog6242 4 года назад +61

    It's been a while since I came across a piece that moved me so much that I had to start learning it straight away. This is an absolutely wonderful piece.

    • @alexkoh1673
      @alexkoh1673 4 года назад +3

      Agreed 100%.

    • @doritodog6242
      @doritodog6242 4 года назад +5

      Two months down and I've completed the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th movements! Time to tackle that beast of a 1st movement

    • @juliusseizure591
      @juliusseizure591 4 года назад

      @@doritodog6242 Nice!

    • @sucroseboy4940
      @sucroseboy4940 3 года назад +2

      I would love to play this piece but I don’t think I will be able to learn a full sonata as the longest pice I’ve played yet is only 8 minutes. One day I will play this though

    • @benrubin8624
      @benrubin8624 3 года назад +2

      @@doritodog6242 Did you ever finish it?

  • @ValseMelancolique
    @ValseMelancolique 4 года назад +18

    Measure 30 sounds great👍

  • @sucroseboy4940
    @sucroseboy4940 3 года назад +23

    I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this beautiful sonata while I was quite new to classical music. After having listened to much of Bortkiewicz music for solo piano I found his first concerto. Before that I hadn’t listened through a whole concerto because I lacked the concentration, but his op 16 was just so amazing. I usually only listened to single movements of long pieces but after hearing how amazing a longer piece can be when in its complete form I learned to listen to many great concertos, symphonies and sonatas. Bortkiewicz music has changed my abilities to understand musical context and harmony and I will forever be grateful to him.

  • @zephthezquirrellord
    @zephthezquirrellord 28 дней назад

    He COOKED omg! Both the composer and performer did fantastic with this

  • @kusuyamasosapianoduet
    @kusuyamasosapianoduet 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for bringing this composition to light. An impressive piece of music. Much appreciated.

  • @redstonulo
    @redstonulo 2 года назад +13

    i think what makes me enjoy it so much are the „unexpected“ chord combinations quite everywhere. like you expect a certain chord but a completely different is played, but it somehow sounds good.

    • @marinadela1361
      @marinadela1361 11 месяцев назад

      Makes the music sound interesting and alive

  • @JouniSomeroMusic
    @JouniSomeroMusic 3 года назад +10

    Thank You!

  • @robertcohn8858
    @robertcohn8858 Год назад +4

    A fantastic, beautiful and powerful performance by Jouni Somero. Thank you for posting this.

  • @gardenparty1000
    @gardenparty1000 Месяц назад

    What a sublime 3rd movement. Otherworldly! Serendipity! Sheer pulchritude! What a melodist! 🎼😇👌

  • @fiandrhi
    @fiandrhi 3 месяца назад

    Thanks to a pianist on RUclips called Claire Black and her recording of his Eros, I've been introduced to Bortkiewicz. This little gem of a sonata has played on repeat the last few days. I'm finding that it's typical of his quality. He really is an overlooked composer.

  • @user-jc4kh1ts7k
    @user-jc4kh1ts7k Год назад +5

    Чудовий украінський композитор! На жаль, мало відомій украінському суспільству. Тепер повертається на батьківщину. Велика подяка всім виконавцям!

    • @hobbit7829
      @hobbit7829 Год назад

      Чому він український! Що в ньому українського?

  • @alanbash2921
    @alanbash2921 8 месяцев назад +2

    Breathtaking Performance !……… Genius Pianist....A la Horowitz 📣📣📣📣

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 года назад +9

    Grande sonata,grande prestazione ! Il finale in tonalità maggiore è semplicemente stupendo ed eroico.Bravo.
    Ottimo post!

  • @brettowen7174
    @brettowen7174 3 месяца назад +1

    Piano has lovely tone.

  • @Sherlock_Violin
    @Sherlock_Violin 6 месяцев назад +1

    A fantastic piece of music! It creates some other worldly emotions and is full of these wonderfully contrasting moments of beauty and darkness!!!

  • @MrFartyman44
    @MrFartyman44 4 года назад +9

    Another awesome upload of somebody I would probably never have heard of. I love your channel Azur. You and the others who upload this music for us. Thank you.

  • @laurelin5822
    @laurelin5822 Год назад +5

    It is so enjoyable to play, I love this sonata

    • @jake_fx
      @jake_fx Год назад +4

      Just finished learning it last week. Such a beautiful piece, especially the 1st movement. I love it!

  • @eliaseiffert2207
    @eliaseiffert2207 3 года назад +7

    ah... 317 likes and 0 dislikes. fully deserved, this sonata is one of his best achievements

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 2 года назад +2

      NOW PPL GONNA DISLIKE >:(

  • @laurelin5822
    @laurelin5822 2 года назад +2

    I love playing it so much

  • @nicolettaguglielmo7186
    @nicolettaguglielmo7186 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic! 🤩🤩🤩

  • @bozzigmupp510
    @bozzigmupp510 2 года назад +3

    Last movement is reminiscing a lot from variation 18 in Rach's Rhapsody

  • @archibald6360
    @archibald6360 3 года назад +8

    Who else noticed Brahm's Rhapsody no. 2 in the 2nd mvt of this sonata? 👁️

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 2 года назад

      Also The Death of Aase from Grieg's Peer Gynt.

  • @jackdeago3639
    @jackdeago3639 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much

  • @thebatman6991
    @thebatman6991 2 года назад +4

    Puissante cette pièce. .

  • @pianist-moko
    @pianist-moko 2 года назад +3

    Beautiful✨👍💓🎶

  • @user-zg4fx6kp7p
    @user-zg4fx6kp7p 4 года назад +8

    Вторая часть божественна!!!

  • @laurelin5822
    @laurelin5822 2 года назад +5

    Bar 60 reminds Chopin piano concerto, this sonata is so beautiful

    • @braydonjackson7184
      @braydonjackson7184 2 года назад +2

      It’s like a quote from his piano concerto 2. I was thinking the same thing

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +1

      The 4th note of bar 76 reminds the 6th note of bar 165 of Beethoven's Kreutzer sonata

  • @jacobnx
    @jacobnx 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for making a score video for this sonata. I couldn't find any and was hoping I wouldn't have to make one myself!

  • @kliberalsing
    @kliberalsing 4 года назад +14

    Not going to dislike this great upload, but reading the score makes me realise that the pianist could actually have done an even better job. He probably plays through thousands of pieces every year.

    • @anttikujari2297
      @anttikujari2297 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, Somero is productive as hell, he has recorded the complete piano works of many failry unknown composers

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 3 года назад +8

      I suppose he's set himself the task of making lesser-known music available to us in audio format and perhaps compromised perfection slightly in the process. I'd love to hear another pianist take this on and see if they can produce something better - although I can't say I think this performance is bad at all!

    • @_x13
      @_x13 2 года назад

      I even think my handling is much better than his…I didn't find something I was willing to learn from in this version.

    • @musicjotter
      @musicjotter Год назад +2

      A little sloppy playing, but I don't mind the imperfections. He gets the point across, and I fully enjoyed it!

  • @emilyhutjes
    @emilyhutjes 6 месяцев назад

    How wonderfully played this beautiful Sonata no: 2 Jouni. 👍🌷🌷🌷 (Holland)

  • @musicjotter
    @musicjotter Год назад +7

    I've heard some criticisms of this composer. I hear a lot of derivations in his music (Chopin, Rach, Greig, etc), but now I wonder if this was intentional? How could it not be? After listening to the music more carefully, this is very good. It's different enough and the composer clearly has his own voice where the derivations seem like intentional tributes.
    But I'm not sure, what do you think? Was the composer aware or unaware of utilizing Chopin's motif from his Piano Concerto 2 in F, Rach's theme from his Piano Concerto 2, or Grieg's theme from Peer Gynt Suite?

    • @schnabelite
      @schnabelite Год назад +3

      Bortkiewicz was spiritually very close to his more popular colleagues, also given his background. So, as you interestingly pointed out, it is a remarkable gesture that we should rather interpret as a loving tribute

    • @zephthezquirrellord
      @zephthezquirrellord 28 дней назад +1

      All of the quotes in this sonata are so tastefully done and don't feel stolen, I'm sure it's intentional and it's absolutely brilliant

  • @smb123211
    @smb123211 5 месяцев назад

    Glorious Finale, wonderful Sonata and "Boo!" to the naysayers. I cannot recall a single performance by - take your pick - Cliburn, Horowitz, Gould, Wang, etc - that I've not read, "Well, they did miss the d sharp on measure 234" or "The accented notes should have been more pronounced" or even "Uninspired". It just burns me up knowing the effort and time entailed. OK, this is not a Lyaponov transcendental etude but so what? Bravo.

  • @VanVlearMusic
    @VanVlearMusic Год назад +2

    1:24 sounds like Rach 2 1st mvmt 1st theme!!

  • @fadisoueidi4127
    @fadisoueidi4127 2 года назад +1

    Never heard ov him. This quite good music.

  • @user-iw3qp5te4r
    @user-iw3qp5te4r 2 года назад +3

    действительно красивая соната, некоторые моменты создают впечатление, что слушаешь Рахманинова. Интересно наблюдать рахманиновские приемы в музыке этого композитора. Главная тема отдаленно напоминает "Манфреда" Чайковского, а именно мотив (фа#-до#-ре-ми-си-до#-ре-си - у Чайковского) соль#-ре#-ми-фа#-до#-ре#-ми
    Напев "Христос Воскресе" в 3 части поразителен.

    • @olexandrselyaninoff8881
      @olexandrselyaninoff8881 2 года назад +3

      соната винятково українського характеру)

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark 2 года назад +2

      @@olexandrselyaninoff8881 Actually, Bortkiewicz is known for borrowing some themes made by Rachmaninoff or Medtner. But it is clear that Bortkiewicz is an amazing composer, and while not the most original, one of my favorites for sure.

  • @tainokreb5200
    @tainokreb5200 2 года назад +1

    very good

  • @occultobscurekhov4908
    @occultobscurekhov4908 Год назад +1

    13:34 Oh, I like that! Sounds heroic!

  • @richg5351
    @richg5351 3 года назад +8

    The 3rd movement has a quote from the fourth movement of Rachmaninoff's Fantaisie-Tableaux (1st Suite for 2 Pianos)

    • @richg5351
      @richg5351 3 года назад +7

      Actually, that might just be an Orthodox chant tune that they both used

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 2 года назад +1

      @@richg5351 Indeed. The score in the video acknowledges this. (Russian Easter Hymn.)

  • @mrsnegy6001
    @mrsnegy6001 Год назад +4

    Very beautiful I hear Rahmaninov in it. Do you too?

  • @Spark-pv9js
    @Spark-pv9js Год назад

    4th movement sounds like a mix of scriabin etude op 8 no 3 and 4th movement of his 3rd sonata

  • @r0mmm
    @r0mmm 2 года назад +3

    4:12 😍

  • @Peter-tg1kk
    @Peter-tg1kk 3 года назад

    Touches of his own 2nd piano concerto but with different accompaniment

  • @pianistasulloceano8753
    @pianistasulloceano8753 Год назад +1

    Do you like more first or second sonata?

  • @alexanderh9569
    @alexanderh9569 2 года назад

    rach 2 1st movement at 1:23

  • @kentbrooks3227
    @kentbrooks3227 Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful. Hints of Rachmaninoff.

  • @pafnouticlavipiano
    @pafnouticlavipiano Год назад

    20:10 I have been waiting for that resolution to I M79 (Db major with major seventh and ninth) for the whole 3rd mov and it didn't happen...

    • @marcfink5712
      @marcfink5712 Год назад

      It‘s romantic music, not jazz… the tonic is almost exclusively 1-3-5 chords, sometimes a sixth.

  • @grammatikerfanatiker
    @grammatikerfanatiker 3 года назад +1

    At around 17-18 minutes the pedal sounds are really loud and distracting.

  • @urisimhoni4981
    @urisimhoni4981 2 года назад +1

    The first motif of this sonata is the same as that of his Prelude in C-sharp minor which was written around 20 years prior:
    ruclips.net/video/yAqiUxhRY3s/видео.html

  • @arlettehellemans2117
    @arlettehellemans2117 Год назад

    The very beginning sounds like of of his Etudes

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 5 месяцев назад +1

    2:49
    This reminds me of that one part in the first movement of Chopin's F minor Concerto.

  • @Mozart0230
    @Mozart0230 3 месяца назад

    1:25
    2:50
    23:40

  • @redstonulo
    @redstonulo 2 года назад +9

    Bortkiewicz: I paid for all the keys so I‘m gonna use them all!

  • @czeynerpianistproducercomp7155
    @czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 4 года назад +3

    Thanks! Please Upload Czerny Op.145

  • @owengette8089
    @owengette8089 3 месяца назад

    4:12

  • @redstonulo
    @redstonulo 2 года назад

    what „tutta forza“ means: how much force? ALL THE FORCE!!

    • @icanogar
      @icanogar 11 месяцев назад

      "Tutta forza" means "with the elbow".

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад

    4:13 I thought of un barque Sur l'ocean for a second

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 года назад

    24:13

  • @user-ue9nv2oj1d
    @user-ue9nv2oj1d 8 месяцев назад

    Такая потрясающе красивая соната!так "пахнет"Рахманиновым

  • @Prometeur
    @Prometeur 3 дня назад

    Based

  • @carlhopkinson
    @carlhopkinson 10 месяцев назад

    Sounds like Cesar Cui.

  • @sorenkrantz1408
    @sorenkrantz1408 5 месяцев назад

    First theme is right out of Tchaikovsky’s manfred symphony

  • @quesote20
    @quesote20 Год назад +3

    2:49 theme is so beautiful, that change from Eb to F7 is really beautiful and innovative.

    • @paulherve2444
      @paulherve2444 Год назад +1

      Although I really like this part, I also heard it in Chopin's seconde piano concerto at around 7 minutes in the first movement ;)

  • @PavelAMamoushkin
    @PavelAMamoushkin Год назад

    Да ну, вполне вторичная музыка

  • @The_Rach_Man_in_Off
    @The_Rach_Man_in_Off Год назад

    4:03-4:06 that sounded like part of La la land's main theme LOL

  • @SvetoslavSlavovPiano
    @SvetoslavSlavovPiano 2 года назад

    How difficult is this piece?

  • @randiey95
    @randiey95 5 месяцев назад

    1:25 ayy its rach
    1:49 i heard liszt
    2:49 also chopin
    4:39 sheesh even kalinnikov

  • @alexustas2203
    @alexustas2203 Год назад

    Рахманиновым веет от сонаты.

  • @ghmus7
    @ghmus7 Год назад +1

    Do i hear a direct quote from Rachmaninov?

  • @RetroRonin-nf1qg
    @RetroRonin-nf1qg 5 месяцев назад +1

    start sounds a lot like his third etude "the brunette"

  • @iliam.chernenko9344
    @iliam.chernenko9344 2 года назад +3

    Sounds as if Rachmaninov bit Tchaikovsky's hand (or something else) and the latter was very inspired by this. This is obviously an epoch-making thing!

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 года назад +1

    1:49 Liszt piano concerto #2

  • @ausi5720
    @ausi5720 2 года назад

    Un the minute 3 uses a similar chords as rachmaninnof

    • @ausi5720
      @ausi5720 2 года назад +1

      That's wonderfull

  • @caseym8385
    @caseym8385 3 года назад

    It's funny how out of place those fully diminished chords at measure 3 sound. Beethoven ruined them for me then silent movies put the nail in the coffin for every using fully diminished chords again (especially arpeggiated). It sounds like Rachmaninoff until those small lapses in judgement remind you it is not. Still, there is something charmingly odd about this piece, like the way it just jumps right in as if in the middle of a piece from the start.

  • @tonaltunes531
    @tonaltunes531 4 месяца назад

    N. II sounds like Brahms’s rapsody

  • @dustinlaferney3160
    @dustinlaferney3160 Месяц назад

    Scriabin

  • @da__lang
    @da__lang Год назад +1

    It's a bit surprising that he borrowed so liberally from Rachmaninov.

  • @user-eg1vq6mn9b
    @user-eg1vq6mn9b 5 месяцев назад +2

    look like Rachmaninoff

  • @db7sib7m
    @db7sib7m 4 года назад +7

    Wonderful sonata! At bar 30 has stolen a bit from Rach :)

    • @erikfreitas7093
      @erikfreitas7093 4 года назад +1

      Marco Zuccarato yeah I heard that too 😁

    • @r0mmm
      @r0mmm 3 года назад +4

      @@ChristovanRensburg not stolen. Paraphrased.
      You cant steal music.
      It just makes you more a genius, If you take a Part of a melody and put it in your own original piece of music

    • @schnabelite
      @schnabelite Год назад

      First movement is built on themes from Tchaikovsky's Manfred, Rach 2 and Chopin 2

  • @UnDeAdMaNiaC24
    @UnDeAdMaNiaC24 Год назад

    1:24-1:30 Heavy Rachmoninoff 2nd piano concerto influence hahah

  • @bobschaaf2549
    @bobschaaf2549 Год назад

    Measure 29 et seq. rips off Rachmaninoff so shamelessly, I abandoned this turgid bore and went over to R's second concerto. I came back only to find measure 60 cribs from Chopin. Shlocky hack work.

    • @zephthezquirrellord
      @zephthezquirrellord 28 дней назад

      I think it's less theft and more quotation. Bort (I hate this abbreviation) uses these quotes within his own style, and each quote actually confirms to his motifs. I think it's perfectly fine, not shameless ripping off

  • @monteverdi1567
    @monteverdi1567 Год назад

    More than a hint of Rachmaninov 😏

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 2 года назад +3

    You've just seen and felt the leaves and detritus of the 19th century die . Thank Goodness now go listen to Boulez 2nd Sonata and CarlVine 's 1st Sonata . This makes me realize the genius of Rachmaninoff . Bortkiewicz is trite .Amazing he hwas taken seriously as a composer .

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 2 года назад +2

      Some of his etudes are very listenable (Katsaris recorded a whole album of them). The thing is: they're too short to get boring, if not even plain bad. Which obviously isn't the case of this sonata: it's roughly 24 minutes too long.

  • @beecolor
    @beecolor 3 года назад +1

    Jouni Somero has the merit of having recorded Bortkiewicz's complete works. But his technique is really limited. Many of Bortkiewicz's works lack precision and clarity, especially in the sonatas, Midnight, etc.

    • @leomiller2291
      @leomiller2291 3 года назад +1

      How is his technique limited?

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад

      @@leomiller2291 Listen to his wrong notes

    • @thebatman6991
      @thebatman6991 Год назад +5

      Ok, i'm waiting for your performance 😊😆

    • @beecolor
      @beecolor Год назад +2

      @@thebatman6991 Aren't you tired of always saying the same thing? Whenever someone criticizes, it's always the same: can you do better? I'm only expressing a point of view that can be shared. To do better or worse is not the question...

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад +2

      @@beecolor Don't waste time answering to this guy. He isn't worth

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 Год назад

    2. movement: The Death of Aase by Grieg. OMG, and I'm afraid that the composer didn't realize

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 Год назад +2

    When Rachmaninov (if he had a stroke) meets Clayderman

    • @thebatman6991
      @thebatman6991 Год назад

      Rachmaninoff always meets Clayderman i m sorry, SBorkiewitz doesn t😆😆

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 Год назад

      @@thebatman6991 If you want to provoke - ok. If not, you have my compassion