Scriabin: Sonata No.2 in G-sharp Minor (Trifonov, Melnikov, Pogorelich)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
  • Scriabin’s second Sonata in G# Minor must rank as one of the most evocative ever written. The first movement features two of the most beautiful motifs ever conceived: the first, the brooding echo of a bell; and the second, a soaring melody placed in the middle of the texture, swathed with delicate latticework. Structurally, there are at least two features of the first movement worth noting: that every section (exposition, development, and recapitulation) begins with the same music, and that the movement ends in E Major, a colour which appeared to Scriabin bluish-white (Scriabin is perhaps the most famous classical composer to have synaesthesia).The second movement, a pulsating perpetuum mobile, contains within it a rising, aching melody which is never presented in its full form until its last occurrence near the end of the movement.
    It’s also interesting to note that Scriabin had a distinct imagistic programme for this sonata, which might explain the choice of E Major as the key in which the first movement ends: “The first part evokes the calm of a night by the seashore in the South; in the development we hear the sombre agitation of the depths. The section in E major represents the tender moonlight which comes after the first dark of the night. The second movement, presto, shows the stormy agitation of the vast expanse of ocean.”
    Trifonov -
    00:00 - Mvt 1, Andante
    07:04 - Mvt 2, Presto
    Melnikov -
    10:25 - Mvt 1, Andante
    17:43 - Mvt 2, Presto
    Pogorelich -
    20:58 - Mvt 1, Andante
    31:03 - Mvt 2, Presto
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  • @PaulHummerman
    @PaulHummerman 7 лет назад +234

    Merry Christmas to all Scriabin lovers - and a brooding and ecstatic New Year!

    • @caterinadelcampo118
      @caterinadelcampo118 3 года назад +1

      hO

    • @forg4308
      @forg4308 3 года назад +11

      this comment was 2 years ahead of time, it would've been more apt at the end of 2019. Then again, somebody in the future could very well say that I don't know the half of the problems that are coming in the next year from when I'm writing.

    • @raphaelg.4485
      @raphaelg.4485 3 года назад +5

      Merry Christmas to all!

    • @JoshuavanderVeen
      @JoshuavanderVeen 3 года назад +2

      @@forg4308 LOL even better at the end of 2020

    • @forg4308
      @forg4308 3 года назад

      @@Noah-wv4td ya don’t say...

  • @thebrainnugget
    @thebrainnugget 6 лет назад +569

    Coincidentally, the first time I listened to this piece was while I was playing Minecraft. I happened to be on a shore at night, then to travel across a vast ocean. I had no idea at the time that this piece was programmatic. So, naturally, while the piece certainly invokes the image Scriabin wanted... mine just happens to be a bit more... well....blocky. Haha

    • @jamesandrewes9640
      @jamesandrewes9640 3 года назад +61

      Speaking of 'blocky', I'm surprised this video didn't include Michel Block's transcendent performance of this sonata.

    • @orb3796
      @orb3796 3 года назад +82

      @@jamesandrewes9640 You're a master of transitions

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 года назад +23

      @@jamesandrewes9640 I wish I could transition to my 2nd musical idea like you just did. Haha

    • @solarean
      @solarean 3 года назад +11

      @@jamesandrewes9640 What a lad are you, teach us your great ways please owo

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

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  • @federico6485
    @federico6485 3 года назад +317

    OMG... Why, why, on earth, is Scriabin so underrated? And why did i get to know this piece too late?

    • @DJ-yq1jn
      @DJ-yq1jn 3 года назад +19

      He daid too early ToT

    • @federico6485
      @federico6485 3 года назад +11

      @@DJ-yq1jn Yes.. He and Chopin. :(

    • @DJ-yq1jn
      @DJ-yq1jn 3 года назад +5

      Chopin was known cause he real good at very young and cause he’s father. Scriabin daid at hight D:

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 3 года назад +43

      I don't think Scriabin is underrated - his music gets played at concerts and recitals all over the world. Maybe he's not as popular as Beethoven or Mozart or Rachmaninov etc but I think he does o.k. Certainly there are many composers who are far, far less well-known.

    • @federico6485
      @federico6485 3 года назад +8

      @@adrianwright8685 makes sense. He's popular enough, but maybe not as much as those, because of his uniqueness.

  • @marcphilos9915
    @marcphilos9915 2 года назад +25

    Love the Pogorelich offering. He brings out a certain pensiveness that feels precisely well placed and not rushed. This sonata was paired with the Liszt B minor sonata on his album and is very much a fitting conclusion to it.

  • @barnabasvissi37
    @barnabasvissi37 Год назад +20

    Trifonov is one of my all time favourite pianists, but I can't stand to write down how amazing the Pogorelich performance of this masterpiece is.

  • @Sam-zj6mw
    @Sam-zj6mw 4 года назад +61

    The way the melody emerges at 2:41 in amongst the delicate ornamental passage work is absolutely extraordinary.

  • @Odin_Limaye
    @Odin_Limaye 3 года назад +67

    One of the best piano sonatas ever written.

  • @pmck85156
    @pmck85156 Год назад +22

    Pogorelich is a genius and brings out all the glorious little details like the LH melody from 31:29, and doesn't miss the effect of the repeated B at the end of the phrase at 31:36

  • @raphaelcaron8981
    @raphaelcaron8981 6 лет назад +73

    This sonata is just incredible, especially the 1st movement. It's maybe my favourite, because it gives so much freedom to the interpreter. I have listened to dozens of interpretations of it and I am really amazed by how differently this can be played. It shows how difficult and interesting this sonata is from an interpretative point of view and how fantastic and unique Scriabin's musical language is... So many shades, so many subtleties... I'm in awe.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @lenamcginnis5168
    @lenamcginnis5168 6 лет назад +43

    Ivo is without the best in this sonata. His artistry, not interpretation is unparalleled . Thank you Ivo!!!

    • @WennAde
      @WennAde 2 года назад +5

      Now that I listen to him, that's right. He's on another level, completely.

  • @jandropga69
    @jandropga69 7 лет назад +171

    In my opinion, this is one of the most beautiful gems in all of classical music. I'm working through some of the easier preludes right now, not sure if I have the gusto for this mammoth yet. Scriabin never sacrifices the subtle, but intricate tonal brilliance of his music to make it easier on the performer, that's for sure.
    This is also one of the greatest channels on all of RUclips. Keep up the fantastic work, Ashish :)

    • @fiscalcpiano
      @fiscalcpiano 6 лет назад +15

      Though there are indeed some significant technical/dexterity challenges in the 2nd sonata (and especially the second movement), I found when I attempted the piece that it was still a productive use of my time. The piece demands an attentive ear to the different voicings and melodies, especially because so many of Scriabin's figurations function as (even if not intended to be) colorations rather than motifs. And then there are the colorations that also motifs... Yes - difficult piece. I found it very rewarding nonetheless. Those challenges force you to cultivate your skill.
      I find Scriabin's 2nd to be a simpler beauty than the 4th; though the 4th sonata has similar complexities and challenges, it is such an exciting piece to play and feels much less academic and rigid. 2nd sonata 2nd movement felt quite academic and rigid to me especially. I still have my own mountains to climb

    • @Soytu19
      @Soytu19 6 лет назад +4

      It is. This second sonata is great. It's complex romantic-like piano music but at the same time it preserves simple and lyrical motifs. The first movement is a real wonder. I'm not very fond of piano music because most of the times i find that its music is a bit overloaded due to its vast musical possibilities (especially romantic music and particularly Liszt, whom for my taste is hugely overrated). But this second sonata is perfect for the piano. It makes use of the complex possibilities of the instrument and at the same time is based on simple melodies and musical concepts- motifs. I'm in love with the first movement.

    • @Ar1osssa
      @Ar1osssa 4 года назад +1

      Alex Eisenach Scriabin isn't easy. It's very pianistic-need composer

    • @flyingpenandpaper6119
      @flyingpenandpaper6119 4 года назад +1

      @@Ar1osssa Some of the easier Preludes, however, are indeed easy. As said he.

    • @lumine1619
      @lumine1619 4 года назад +3

      Careful, it might one of the gems that Kaido Kid is after

  • @trevjr
    @trevjr 3 года назад +29

    I just have to say, I love Scriabin. Ever since I was a piano major what 40 years ago and got the Dover edition of his preludes and etudes. It took me longer to appreciate Chopin who I love dearly now. I would tell anyone to just skip to the Pogorelich version. His playing and musicality is so far above the other two. He lets the music breathe and observes more of the dynamic and rubato markings. Just look at the way he plays that grace note before the triplets, lovingly, not rushed, not just some note. He is quite the amazing pianist and musician. In this sonata we can hear Scriabin start to break away from the Chopin/early Rachmaninoff sounds. I noticed he really likes the minor 7th chords in this sonata. We can start to hear some of the inner voicings and rhythmic interplay that mark the 5th sonata and beyond. Not just 2 against 3, but 4/3, 5/3, 6/5, 7/5 etc. Scriabin is one of the few composers where you can actually see him changing over time, if you play thru his preludes from the beginning you will note a marked change around Op 34 or so, then other change around Op 54. Late Scriabin you would never guess he was the composer of even this sonata.

    • @florisende8015
      @florisende8015 3 года назад +2

      Huh, how funny. I currently am a piano major in a conservatory, and have been entranced by Scriabins works due to the Dover edition of the preludes and etudes. Do you have any predictions for me, as I seem to be following your footsteps?

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад +1

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @r0mmm
    @r0mmm 3 года назад +62

    0:52... God, that melody. Its so chopinesque, but also so Scriabin.. I LOOOOVVVE it.
    Scriabin was (and is) such a genius and lyrical wonder

    • @viktorartemiev525
      @viktorartemiev525 3 года назад +2

      A lot of Scriabins' are chopinesque.
      But not at all of Chopins' are scriabinesque.

    • @r0mmm
      @r0mmm 2 года назад +7

      @@aseempawaskar Scriabin was born in the 1870s and Chopin died 1849

    • @aseempawaskar
      @aseempawaskar 2 года назад

      @@r0mmm oop- my bad xD!

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

    • @Charlie-vf8hw
      @Charlie-vf8hw 3 месяца назад

      Reminds me of the third movement from Chopin’s third sonata

  • @rudigerk
    @rudigerk 5 лет назад +124

    Pogorelich's rendition is out of this World! The Phrasing and Polyphony is wonderful.

    • @dkinney1000
      @dkinney1000 4 года назад +7

      He takes us on the journey.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад +1

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

    • @PedroFragosoPires
      @PedroFragosoPires Год назад +3

      Absolutely monumental

    • @ronl7131
      @ronl7131 Год назад +1

      Young Pogorelich so good

  • @djangoon6
    @djangoon6 7 лет назад +23

    I have missed Scriabin all these years, what beauty!

  • @emyrwyn604
    @emyrwyn604 7 лет назад +23

    I'm never tired of this wonderful piece. It's as if the music is swaying with the waves in the first movement and rising from the depths in the second. Just as Scriabin describes!

  • @lubaluba80
    @lubaluba80 2 года назад +7

    Listening to the first two: "hmmm, why this way? I would like to hear it like this and that..."
    Listening to Pogorelich: "Yes! Yes! Yes! A hundred times yes!"
    If I could imagine the perfect interpretation - this would be it!
    The incredibly round tone, the genius, sensitive and sensible timing, the dynamics. He is mastering every millisecond of this.

  • @Someonece
    @Someonece 7 лет назад +132

    I only started listening to Scriabin 3 months ago, and love Pogorelich's recording of this. Beautiful voicing. I also love how you can hear Chopin's 1st Ballade being referenced at 24:49.
    Edit June 2018: Pogorelich's recording of this sonata is the greatest and most perfect solo piano recording I know of. 26:04 - 27:20 is indescribable. The way he crescendos and climaxes fits my musical preference better than what I could imagine myself. Every time I listen to it, I just sit in awe. Pogorelich is a genius.

    • @alex1lv632
      @alex1lv632 7 лет назад +6

      It's very beautiful, but his 1st movement is a bit too slow for me.

    • @Someonece
      @Someonece 7 лет назад +4

      Wasn't Scriabin most influenced by Chopin in his early life? Since his works are more Romantic before the turn of the century. Watch 'Zimerman plays Chopin Ballade No. 1' and skip to 3:17. The very first time I listened to this Sonata I heard it immediately.

    • @Someonece
      @Someonece 7 лет назад

      ***** I respectfully disagree. Maybe it's because I've been studying Chopin and his music for 2 years straight that I'm very sensitive to anything that sounds a bit close to his style. I can't listen to this Sonata without thinking about the first Ballade when that section comes up, not that I was saying he always referenced Chopin. It's a different story when I listen to his work at the turn of the 20th century. His nearly atonal late Sonatas are very interesting, and I can't begin to describe how breathtaking his symphonies and symphonic poems are; That I can say is pure Scriabin.

    • @Someonece
      @Someonece 7 лет назад

      ***** Yes it is very developed. The problem is I'm unsure of what you are trying to say. When you use words like 'pure', it gives me the impression that you are unaware of how much he was influenced in the very early works. It looks like I forgot to mention that I did in fact hear his distinctive style and tone in most pieces. I thought of him as 'a Russian Chopin' at first, until I eventually discovered his later works. As I said in the original comment, I've only been listening to him for a few months. I never said Chopin and early Scriabin are indistinguishable. You keep putting words in my mouth. I mentioned only a couple pieces, and only one of the two (the Mazurka) was one of the most indistinguishable piece. Other than that, I can really hear his own style but with heavy influence from Chopin, since, as everyone knows was the leader of Romantic piano.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 7 лет назад +1

      Dude idk what you're arguing about. The pieces that Tac Tundra mentioned (and also op 15) sound especially influenced by chopin, as they share more melodic, harmonic and rhythmic similarities than other pieces that are not as much influenced by chopin would. That's all he said.

  • @scronx
    @scronx 2 года назад +1

    Performances both masterly and heavenly. Thank you!

  • @aldoringo439
    @aldoringo439 2 года назад +16

    Every scriabin sonata is just guaranteed to be a masterpiece. That's how good of a composer he was. Guaranteed gold every time.

  • @nielsenja
    @nielsenja 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you so much for your consistently evocative yet strangely precise descriptions, they really help me to learn and more fully appreciate music that I love.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @musicshin2
    @musicshin2 Год назад +9

    The development harmony in the 1st movement is really flowing like slice of butter, Also the theme really changes well like solving a puzzle😁😁

  • @samh1996
    @samh1996 2 года назад +4

    I first thought this sonata was just all about lovely melodies, but it has so much drama going on and the climax in the first movement is spectacular. It's an exceptionally beautiful sonata for piano which rivals some of the best sonatas ever written, I believe. I keep coming back to listening Melnikov's interpretation of the 2nd movement, so much passion in it. This is undoubtedly one of my favorite sonatas, written by my favorite composer.

  • @icarias9602
    @icarias9602 2 года назад +3

    Otra gran sonata de Scriabin.🎹👌🏻
    Gracias por compartir.
    Saludos desde Chile.🇨🇱

  • @wesmlr
    @wesmlr Год назад +2

    The Trifonov recording is incredible... Sublime

  • @samward2416
    @samward2416 3 года назад +5

    One of the few pieces that can bring me to tears.

  • @orvillewrightjr.6119
    @orvillewrightjr.6119 5 лет назад +10

    I once attended a Lecture/Recital where the performer played the First and Second Scriabin Sonatas. The performer mentioned that the Second Sonata was composed after Scriabin vacationed on the Baltic Sea, I believe in Lithuania. I've always been fascinated by the Second Piano Sonata, which these three performers play very differently, but most enjoyably. I've played it over the years; albeit, somewhat unevenly, though I persevere.

  • @lovettboston
    @lovettboston Год назад +6

    Thanks for providing the score and the commentary. I've been somewhat acquainted with this sonata for about 20 years, but only after following with the score did I notice how the "second subject" of the second movement is derived from the second subject in the first movement. That's an unremarkable bit of analysis, but it's also a central to how this music registers as a whole.
    Scriabin may indeed have had some kind of abnormal capacity for synesthesia, which I long regarded as an extra-musical distraction. I now see this as a little like Kandinsky's writing about art, especially his ideas about inherent, and not strictly visible, properties of colors. That's not surprising either, given Kandinsky's strong interest in music of his time. And it doesn't take too much imagination to equate the shade of blue in this sonata with some of the seascapes by Scriabin's contemporary, Aivazovsky.
    Following the score also helps me understand how a work that sounds so obviously "Romantic" in late 19th century fashion can be so harmonically elusive. Is the first movement really in G-sharp minor, or could it be B major, ending with a tack to the subdominant, E major? The finale certainly seems to begin and end in G-sharp minor, but the keys for the second subject seem rather remote. I don't have the expertise to figure out all the musical theory involved here, but I see more clearly how this sonata leads from what came before to what comes after.

  • @nicholasfox966
    @nicholasfox966 6 лет назад +11

    One of my very favorite pieces of music ever written for piano. Of the three performances posted here, my preferred is the second one, Melnikov. Historically, the performances of Sofronitsky and Richter I treasure most.

  • @user-sh8px9vt3r
    @user-sh8px9vt3r 2 года назад +20

    웹툰보고왔는데 이렇게 아름다운노래가있을줄 몰랐네요~👍

    • @user-yc9ff4kh4d
      @user-yc9ff4kh4d 2 года назад +1

      무슨웹툰이요

    • @user-fl7ld7uy4m
      @user-fl7ld7uy4m 2 года назад +1

      @@user-yc9ff4kh4d 모스크바의 여명같아요

    • @andrewmiles3378
      @andrewmiles3378 7 месяцев назад

      ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • @misterteatime1840
    @misterteatime1840 6 лет назад +4

    The Glemser recording of this is also excellent. One of my absolute favourite pieces.

  • @aston0708
    @aston0708 Год назад +4

    Trifonov and Melnikov is utterly amazing,,,,, Pogerlich is however unique,,,,,the sound created is haunting

  • @V1DE0DR0ME
    @V1DE0DR0ME 4 года назад +9

    For a wonderful interpretation of the tender parts towards the end of the first movement, I highly recommend Hamelin. He maintains the yearning melody with loving clarity, while the trickling R.H. accompaniment in the background glistens like water. I melt every time I hear it; a testament also to Scriabin's masterful writing for the piano.

  • @monteverdi1567
    @monteverdi1567 3 года назад +4

    I was heretofore unfamiliar with this piece, thank you for sharing it! What a beautiful, lovely, and indeed "evocative" work.

  • @PeterLunowPL
    @PeterLunowPL 6 лет назад +12

    Never heard Melnikov before and I must say: he knocked me off my feet ! what a GREAT pianist !!. The colors, the structure, the rhythm, clarity, dynamic accuracy.... a master indeed.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @nikolai5012
    @nikolai5012 Год назад +1

    I don't get why no one loves Melnikov's interpretation! I love how in the cathartic release in the first movement (the part where it goes from g sharp minor to e major), he doesn't pull all the way back as the others do, but let's the momentum carry on to a serene blissful resolution

  • @pulchralutetia
    @pulchralutetia 3 года назад +6

    The man was a poetic genius.

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 4 месяца назад

    12:21 I love the sudden emergence of a new voice in the left hand

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад +3

    3:13, is nobody going to talk about how cool the B major-D major-F minor-Eb major transition in the development is?

  • @fidelcastro9112
    @fidelcastro9112 5 лет назад +20

    5:36
    What a beauty

  • @marcap1000
    @marcap1000 4 года назад +14

    Pogorelich is in a class of his own, no doubt. It's no matter of ranking, of better/worse. Just a class of his own......

    • @DJ-yq1jn
      @DJ-yq1jn 4 года назад

      Just keeping everyone out

  • @kniazigor2276
    @kniazigor2276 Год назад

    Superbe œuvre servie par un magnifique interprète

  • @gifted26
    @gifted26 Год назад

    Pure Bliss.... Ahhhhhh!

  • @timward276
    @timward276 2 года назад +5

    I don't love the second movement, but my Gods, that first movement is one of the most beautiful and evocative pieces I've ever heard. That bell-like triplet, the melody in the middle of the filigree accompaniment, the rhythmic complexity--just stunning. All 3 versions are terrific.

  • @carolynchang4401
    @carolynchang4401 6 лет назад +5

    So. Beautiful.

  • @8413Lucas
    @8413Lucas 3 года назад +8

    5:53 sublime melody with all these sparkles above! And those polyrhythms must be so hard to play

  • @annemarietartas4073
    @annemarietartas4073 3 года назад +2

    Quelle grâce, quelle l'égèreté, quelle délicatesse dans le touché, quelle aisance quelle fluidité dans les changements de rythme et de tempo ! Cette étude est une petite merveille !

  • @scribblertheband
    @scribblertheband 4 года назад +5

    This has so much happening I love it

  • @Pakkens_Backyard
    @Pakkens_Backyard 2 года назад +14

    The sound of 5 sharps is just ethereal, glad to have discovered this piece

    • @robertcalley6496
      @robertcalley6496 Год назад

      There is absolutely nothing special about "5 sharps". This comment is clearly written by a newbsack who doesn't understand theory.

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 Год назад +8

      @@robertcalley6496 why not take your elitism elsewhere and allow this person to enjoy the music?

    • @robertcalley6496
      @robertcalley6496 Год назад +3

      @@chrisy367 Because their comment is entirely nonsensical - they can feel free to enjoy the music, just not because it has "5 sharps". That is stupid, and it needs to be stated as such.

    • @classicore22
      @classicore22 Год назад +5

      @@robertcalley6496 I’ve played for fourteen years, regularly giving recitals. I’m one of many people to notice a difference between the characters of different keys. This is because instruments are not in perfect equal temperament, meaning that the various keys sound different.
      B major/G# minor, for example, sound more exotic to a listener than C major.
      It’s worth noting that the great composers themselves, who were more knowledgeable about music than most casual listeners, have assigned different characters to different keys. (This was especially true in the days before “equal temperament,” when the differences in character between keys were far more pronounced than they are today. A-flat major sounded horrendously out of tune in many Baroque temperaments.)
      They may have varied between different composers, but you find very few major composers claiming that there is nothing inherently different about different keys. Beethoven called B minor a “black key,” never wrote a major piece in it, and used it as a destabilizing force in the Hammerklavier sonata. Scriabin thought F-sharp major was an ecstatic key, featuring it in Prometheus and in his Fourth and Fifth Piano Sonatas. Liszt consistently used D minor to represent Hell in his Dante Sonata and in his Dante Symphony. He used F-sharp major for more intimate, religious-themed moments (Benediction of God in Solitude; the sections of the Dante Sonata representing Paradisio; the slow section of his Fantasy and Fugue on the choral Ad Nos, Salutarem; etc.) Beethoven scholars agree that he used C minor for some of his stormiest works, like the Fifth Symphony and the Op. 111 Sonata. Surely they weren’t all wrong?

    • @KingstonCzajkowski
      @KingstonCzajkowski 2 месяца назад

      @@classicore22 Programmatic key intentions are often intended to affect the performer and not the audience. Some of those composers had perfect pitch. Modern temperaments are almost always 12-TET. People without perfect pitch cannot aurally tell the difference.

  • @lingnguyen2623
    @lingnguyen2623 2 года назад +2

    Reminds me of Medtner's fairy tails piano pieces, very nuanced, subtle, but delightful.

  • @sunachong1083
    @sunachong1083 4 года назад +15

    Fantastic Scriabin..❤

    • @DJ-yq1jn
      @DJ-yq1jn 4 года назад

      I just don’t g3t it... h0w c@n s0m3 0n3 wr1t3 s0m3th1ng @a awesome as th15?

    • @cislak5669
      @cislak5669 3 года назад

      @@DJ-yq1jn s0 1337 m4n jus7 l1k3 pwn1ng n00bz

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @jorgefraile218
    @jorgefraile218 3 года назад +3

    One of my favourite piano sonatas of all time

  • @bennyksmusicalworld
    @bennyksmusicalworld 2 года назад

    Movement 2 is kinda Chopinesque and I love it

  • @Henry-uv9xu
    @Henry-uv9xu 6 лет назад +3

    Evocative is the perfect term for this sonata.

  • @jesus_built_my_hotrod
    @jesus_built_my_hotrod 5 лет назад +46

    Sadly my classical musical acuity is not up to this standard yet. Surely I will revisit in the future with a more mature and true appreciation.

    • @zeke7269
      @zeke7269 3 года назад +38

      props to you friend, people don't often have this mentality

    • @joshsussman9432
      @joshsussman9432 3 года назад +7

      Just in this tiny post you show: honesty, patience, humility and suspension of judgement. Great job.

    • @oldbird4601
      @oldbird4601 3 года назад +1

      If only I knew someone like you in real life 😭

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 года назад

      Yet this comment tells me that you have more potential than lots of others.

    • @isaacanwarwatts8844
      @isaacanwarwatts8844 3 года назад

      Just listen 5 times and by the end you will feel as if you've 'understood' the piece. Familiarity is in some ways interchangeable with maturity. Although I assume you've done that by now

  • @pablovalverde3542
    @pablovalverde3542 8 месяцев назад +1

    7:08 When Scriabin dramatically turns to Chopin

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 2 года назад +7

    Rachmaninov's Op.39 No.1 explores a very similar technique to the presto of this work

  • @NoahJohnson1810
    @NoahJohnson1810 7 лет назад +10

    Never heard of Melnikov. His/her interpretation is mature and powerful!

    • @robert-skibelo
      @robert-skibelo Год назад

      Obviously "his". A woman would be called Melnikova.

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 Год назад

      @@robert-skibelo melnikov is his family name though, not first name

    • @robert-skibelo
      @robert-skibelo Год назад

      @@chrisy367 Russian (and other Slavic) family names are declined for women, so a married woman has a slightly different name from her husband. Think of the ballerina Pavlova: if she had a husband, he would have been Pavlov, like the man with the salivating dogs. There's Navritalova as well.

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 Год назад

      @@robert-skibelo ahh i see, thanks for the clarification

  • @StudSupreme
    @StudSupreme Год назад +1

    This is a beautiful piece. Never heard it or of it before. This is a discovery.

  • @bellinivernon
    @bellinivernon Год назад

    Que bien ... !

  • @nightdreamerss9998
    @nightdreamerss9998 3 года назад

    This is the best sonata of Scriabin , is astonishingly amazing , both harmonically and melodically , true musical poetry with thousands of colors .

  • @goognamgoognw6637
    @goognamgoognw6637 6 лет назад +9

    Having listenned this juxtaposition many times. Like some other have said, I think Melnikov gives the best rendition of the second movment but Trifonov gives the most touching and moving first movment but as he gets in the second his dynamic accents do not work as well as Melnikov slowly rising and crushing waves of music. So that by the time you have listened Melnikov you forgot how beautifully expressive Trifonov first movment is.

  • @XavierMacX
    @XavierMacX 6 лет назад +10

    All the performances are great in their own right. I dislike, however, Trifonov's disregard for the dynamic markings near the end of the 2nd movement. Scriabin's written interpretation is much more effective and dramatic! Thanks (yet again) for the amazing upload.

    • @robertcalley6496
      @robertcalley6496 Год назад +1

      I dislike everything about Trifonov, including his face.

  • @otaviolamounier1733
    @otaviolamounier1733 7 лет назад +5

    more Scriabin please !

  • @PianoPsych
    @PianoPsych 3 года назад +5

    You provide a great service to us by presenting these three beautiful performances of this sublime piece. I was already familiar with Pogorelich's unique but wayward performance but hadn't heard Trifonov's or Melnikov's. I had never heard of Melnikov before. Trifonov is very impressive here. He has beautiful color in both movements, but I think Melnikov gets closer to the composer's intention. Pogorelich is a little too self-indulgent for my taste and loses the flow of the first movement by playing it too slowly, but his control of piano color is unsurpassed and that shows in his astonishing second movement. Thank you for bringing Melnikov to my attention. It was Beatrice Rana's performance that inspired me to learn the piece after having become familiar with it from a recording by Bella Davidovich. Yuja Wang's performance also deserves to be heard.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

    • @PianoPsych
      @PianoPsych 2 года назад

      @@mikhailtrushechkin1642 I liked it very much and left a comment under your video.

  • @jacklevinson1
    @jacklevinson1 6 лет назад +8

    I find it interesting how both Scriabin's third sonata and this one begin with similar rising octave figures used as motives, while one is a fourth, the other is a fifth.

  • @huangharold9322
    @huangharold9322 2 года назад

    Just like a ballade.But the things in it are more than telling a story.

  • @Elenoro
    @Elenoro 3 года назад +2

    Wonderful channel, thank you for your work. It's very good point - to listen with scores and to compare 2-3 different interpretations, very interesting musicians you choose to compare.
    Thank you!

  • @limesquared
    @limesquared 6 лет назад +3

    Melnikov-so soothing.

  • @positive.juice.apartment
    @positive.juice.apartment Год назад +3

    pogorelich supremacy

  • @Johannes_Brahms65
    @Johannes_Brahms65 2 года назад +1

    As a start it blows my mind how anybody at all can remember these notes. But it nukes my mind how anybody can play these notes for me to even understand and like them (Pogorelich).

  • @danpoynton
    @danpoynton 4 года назад +18

    Yes - this is one of the most beautiful ecstatic pieces ever written. And you should also include Ashkenazy in your list of the great players of this piece - I would say the greatest, but in the presence of players such as Pogorelich, who knows? And then, what about Sofronitsky? He married Elena, Scriabin's eldest daughter, and he recorded one of the most free-flowing, whimsical performances of this piece that has ever been given us - so who knows? With such divine creations, there is never any "definitive" interpretation.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад +1

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

    • @danpoynton
      @danpoynton 2 года назад

      @@mikhailtrushechkin1642 A magic interpretation, thank you sir! (Please see my comment on your channel..............)

  • @girlwhoeatstestpapers
    @girlwhoeatstestpapers 2 года назад +13

    모스크바의 여명이 날 여기로...

  • @martinianotanoni
    @martinianotanoni 11 месяцев назад +1

    There´s a lot of Chopin´s Polonaise-Fantasy op. 61 in this work, right from the very beginning

  • @eric.esoteric
    @eric.esoteric 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent

  • @ruivog
    @ruivog 3 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @aldoringo439
    @aldoringo439 2 года назад +1

    Its weird that I would also agree that e major would be bluish white, even though I don't have synthaesia, kind of a pale blue, like the sky on a clear day but with a bit of white cloud.

  • @meredith218461
    @meredith218461 3 года назад +1

    There are some lovely moments of lyricism and filigree writing in the first mvt.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @JasonMYu
    @JasonMYu 7 лет назад +7

    One of my favorite pieces. I've never heard Trifonov or Melnikov's performances so thank you for sharing. Properly highlighting the melody from 2:29 - 2:52 is extremely difficult, and Richter's performance is one of the clearest--though Trifonov's is also really clear here.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

  • @danielche2349
    @danielche2349 4 года назад +7

    Trifonov -
    00:00 - Mvt 1, Andante
    07:04 - Mvt 2, Presto
    Melnikov -
    10:25 - Mvt 1, Andante
    17:43 - Mvt 2, Presto
    Pogorelich -
    20:58 - Mvt 1, Andante
    31:03 - Mvt 2, Presto
    (copy and paste because on mobile timestamps don't work in the description, only in the comment section)

  • @cuneyterkanol
    @cuneyterkanol 5 лет назад +32

    20:58
    POGORELICH...!!!!
    POGORELICH...!!!!
    POGORELICH...!!!!
    and again...
    POGORELICH...!!!!

  • @PeiyunPianist
    @PeiyunPianist 3 года назад +3

    wow Trifonov!

  • @anteb.k.8396
    @anteb.k.8396 5 лет назад +15

    You forgot Sofronitsky, it is one of the most alive Scriabin playing I ever heard

  • @sambo7499
    @sambo7499 5 лет назад +4

    One word! Wow!
    Performed by 3 proclaimed pianists!

  • @debussy69
    @debussy69 2 года назад +1

    I’ve attempted it a few times but always give up during the 2nd mvt, it requires super-human ability

  • @KDChenStudio
    @KDChenStudio 7 лет назад +20

    Melnikov's version is my top favourite.

  • @dawlims1334
    @dawlims1334 Год назад

    the first two was good, but pogorelich' interpretation is the best

  • @Dodecatone
    @Dodecatone Год назад +1

    20:58 (just for myself, beginning of the Pogorelich)

  • @fnsnssi
    @fnsnssi 5 лет назад +16

    17:43

  • @stefaniavallonchini1902
    @stefaniavallonchini1902 3 года назад

    Wowwwww!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @bozzigmupp510
    @bozzigmupp510 2 года назад +1

    I find it so difficult to understand and read triplets when there is only 2 noted

  • @alessiofagioli9235
    @alessiofagioli9235 2 года назад +4

    pogorelich always sublim e

  • @berkefeil5646
    @berkefeil5646 11 месяцев назад

    Scriabin can be a bit tough to listen to sometimes but this sonata does not give one that impression in the least. Maybe the composer is truly underrated after all

  • @na-kun2136
    @na-kun2136 Год назад +2

    3:14 sounds like a rainbow to me

  • @mnmnmn
    @mnmnmn Год назад

    i adore Pogorelic’s sound and don’t usually have objections with his weird tempos but the beginning and middle of the 1st mov is way too slow to make sense for me 😢

  • @christopherczajasager9030
    @christopherczajasager9030 2 года назад

    Above all, the long lines, the dynamics, and bruavur!Ecstasy and what cannot be taught..TRIFONOV version...

  • @LukeFaulkner
    @LukeFaulkner 4 года назад +11

    Op.54 aside, this should be called Poem of Ecstasy.

  • @robertflynn6686
    @robertflynn6686 3 года назад +2

    This a great listening challenge.
    Melnikov I felt was the most precise to the composer but I also love Trifonovs' great expertise, and I liked pogorelich too in his sense of it. It took five years to write and 11 to play. Great info tube.

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад +1

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html

    • @robertflynn6686
      @robertflynn6686 2 года назад

      @@mikhailtrushechkin1642 answering back to you Mikhail; I was not sure who the performer is. Do you know??
      I learned over life listening to some composers like Scriabin who basically allows no overall interpreting. Strange idea. He appeared in Russia I think when the world reacted to uncertainty itself as more than the observers cause. Its built into all scriabines works I am hypothesizing . If I listen to your proposed playing here, its beautiful but more ' heavy ' sounding. If I listen to say trifonovs version it has a tinkling sound in the treble. It has a different feel or effect on me. Older composers followed more rigorous formats which limit interpretation by the player 🤔
      That is how I explain my dilemma here. What does trifonov do to play it like he does with such treble clearness or is he a better performer.
      What do you think of my dilemma??

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      @@robertflynn6686 I`m sure it all depends completely on the recording equipment. I use ordinary Taskam DR100 in my recordings. It costs 400$. Professional equipment may cost dozens of thousand$!

    • @robertflynn6686
      @robertflynn6686 2 года назад

      @@mikhailtrushechkin1642 in the abstract, ya. The mind and senses are themselves 'recording/expressing' equipments of nature in life. All wave/particles... maybe thats what I say. Every person plays per his natural recording equipment. On some cases.. maybe. use the Australian rock band, tame-impala.
      The admit they use expensive equipment to make their 'psychedelic sounds'.
      That works for me.

  • @music_clips23
    @music_clips23 Год назад

    I like Melnikov for the 1st mvmt and Pogorelich for the 2nd mvmt .

  • @MusicalSeriesChannel
    @MusicalSeriesChannel 3 года назад +8

    Trifonov plays 08:30 very very very very (.....+900 very) well!

    • @mikhailtrushechkin1642
      @mikhailtrushechkin1642 2 года назад

      Hi:) I wonder how would You like this interpretation? ruclips.net/video/fBFCM0Xc8I4/видео.html