Xaver Scharwenka - Piano Concerto No. 3 in C sharp minor

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • - Composer: Franz Xaver Scharwenka (6 January 1850 -- 8 December 1924)
    - Orchestra: Estonian National Symphony Orchestra
    - Conductor: Neeme Järvi
    - Soloist: Alexander Markovich
    - Year of recording: 2014
    Concerto for piano & orchestra No. 3 in C sharp minor, Op. 80, written in 1889.
    00:00 - I. Maestoso
    14:12 - II. Adagio
    20:55 - III. Allegro non troppo
    All of Scharwenka’s concertos are in minor keys. The Third Piano Concerto, which followed the Second in 1889, after a substantial gap, is in the least common key of the four, C sharp minor. It opens with impressively powerful music reflective of this key signature, but in its highly romantic way it also introduces delicate and lyrical passages.
    - The opening Maestoso might be said to reflect this tonality (did Scharwenka perhaps have Rachmaninoff ’s Prelude in mind?) and its stentorian tone is mightily impressive. Yet the theme is cast as a mazurka in all but name, though with the Polish dance element completely removed. Scharwenka is now in a high-romantic mood, alternating strong passages with delicate and lyrical ones. The last of these, a winsome melody introduced by flutes and clarinets, answered by the piano, and given full form by violins and cellos in octaves, molto espressivo, also features in the central piano Cadenza.
    - The second movement, another Adagio, opens with a cantabile melody in the strings, and the piano’s response indicates that Chopin has been left behind in favour of something more full-bodied. For its second major entry, the piano revisits the winsome theme from the first movement, before joining with the orchestra in developing the main idea. But the music of the first movement cannot be restrained. Not only does the now less-than-winsome theme reappear, but the opening theme of the concerto comes to the fore: Liszt’s cyclic thematicism is back.
    - Without a break - the music pressesforward like a through-composed song - the finale emerges, the opening theme of the first movement recast anew as a mazurka (French horn), but this time more evidently so. What starts as a dainty dance soon receives fuller treatment by the piano, but at heart the movement is a lyrical outpouring rather than a rumbustious dance. A second major episode for the solo piano (neither of them is called a cadenza) recalls the first. The closing bars come full circle to the concerto’s opening material and tone.
    The concerto is dedicated: "Rafael Joseffy freundschaftlich zugeeignet", a Hungarian pianist, teacher and composer.
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Комментарии • 163

  • @joeboyle5864
    @joeboyle5864 4 года назад +108

    "..with Rachmaninoff in mind.." This was written when Rach was 16, unlikely to influence anyone..

    • @erikbreathes
      @erikbreathes 3 года назад +12

      Actually, to add to that point, he hadn't even had his Op.1 published until he was 17

    • @erikbreathes
      @erikbreathes 3 года назад +36

      CORRECTION: it would appear that the description is wrong and this was written in 1898/99, when Rachmaninoff was in his late twenties

    • @sleort42
      @sleort42 3 года назад +1

      @@erikbreathes Correct Hysterikal

    • @donnytello1544
      @donnytello1544 3 года назад +13

      I feel like ppl make very vague comparisons to rachmaninoff. Being russian doesn’t make them similar, in fact rachmaninoff was very different from most of his colleagues or idols, such as Tchaikovsky or scriabin, or even Stravinsky

    • @donnytello1544
      @donnytello1544 3 года назад +7

      this composition sounds nothing like something rachmaninoff would write, and the his execution of the melody is very different, more like Scriabin or atterburg

  • @ScriabinistheGOAT24
    @ScriabinistheGOAT24 Год назад +38

    How is nobody commenting about this theme!!! 23:41 (24:27) or 28:13 (28:59). It's literally the most passionately gorgeous melody I've ever heard!

    • @bobschaaf2549
      @bobschaaf2549 5 месяцев назад +2

      Perhaps because most people can't make it to 23:41. Because of your comment, I jumped to that point. Now I'm jumping out to something less schmalzy.

    • @IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5
      @IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5 Месяц назад +1

      @@bobschaaf2549 that is just so sad

  • @teoleonov
    @teoleonov 7 лет назад +70

    Attention! This wonderful music was written in 1889... How could the author imitate the Rachmaninov's Prelude which wasn't even composed? ..........”Hats off, gentlemen, a genius”.

    • @teoleonov
      @teoleonov 7 лет назад +5

      I referred to this explication text posted above: @- The opening Maestoso might be said to reflect this tonality (did Scharwenka perhaps have Rachmaninoff ’s Prelude in mind?) and its stentorian tone is mightily impressive.@

    • @erikbreathes
      @erikbreathes 3 года назад +6

      Description has a typo. This was written in 1898/99 not 1889

  • @firoza8994
    @firoza8994 2 года назад +17

    ive listened to this concerto almost daily for over a month. its one of the most breathtaking pieces ive ever heard. Its like rachmaninoff and scriabin before rachmaninoff and scriabin, full of intensely lyrical pathos and moments of grandiose rage. the way the material is transformed throughout the piece is genius.

  • @Merken.Sideral
    @Merken.Sideral 7 лет назад +121

    Since I discovered F. Xaver Scharwenka I have wondered how it is possible that he is not a recognized composer at the level of the greatest...

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  7 лет назад +55

      Underexposure. The same reason that classical music in general isn't one of the most popular genres, underexposure of the music to people.

    • @Lebarondesamedi
      @Lebarondesamedi 7 лет назад +15

      maybe because the greatest composers we know are not all those who really were, and maybe because we know too many who weren't great composers, but the world thinks they are....

    • @efs797
      @efs797 3 года назад +6

      Underexposure (sometimes interchangeable with underrepresentation) can happen to great composers for multiple reasons. Lilli Boulanger is clearly one of a triumvirate of French orchestration and composition masters of her era but she is rarely mentioned alongside Ravel and Debussy, her peers. Sharwenka and Boulanger show that different reasons cause a deserving composer not to get the circulation their work merits. This is worth discussing because some ensembles have in turn dedicated themselves to correcting this but exacerbate underexposure (and in so doing, sometimes exacerbate historical wrongs) by serving only one possible reason for underrepresentation. In other words we'll program Boulanger but not Sharwenka on principle. Ensembles willing to program either best serve the public who fund their activities by embracing a broader mission of correcting undercirculation of great (underexposed, underrepresented) works.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 года назад +3

      He was quite popular in his day. His piano concerto 1 and 4 were extremely loved by almost all. Somehow, some things just fade into obscurity, even the much more famous Mendelssohn Piano Concerti were adored at the time of the composer and are a little underplayed in this day and age.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 года назад

      @@mr.p5446 ngl, that's a load of horse shit.

  • @pianohaus
    @pianohaus Год назад +8

    Pure Virtuosity
    a must for piano concert lovers

  • @mrsnegy6001
    @mrsnegy6001 Год назад +5

    Fireworks of beauty and power.

  • @TheLordgaga12
    @TheLordgaga12 8 лет назад +18

    OMG I love this concert, i want to play someday, i play the first one in a few months.

  • @kokonssp
    @kokonssp 3 года назад +8

    masterpiece that makes us feel a reminiscence of romance

  • @vijaykrishnan7797
    @vijaykrishnan7797 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you that person who reminded me to listen again , remind me again after a long while

  • @alibaghirov4503
    @alibaghirov4503 4 года назад +16

    16:45 Really loved the interpretation,how it gets from "pianissimo" to "fortissimo" and sounds pationately at 16:51
    Reminds me Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto in c-minor.
    Great work!

  • @danielharrington4342
    @danielharrington4342 3 года назад +27

    I think that out of all the Scharwenka's concertos, this one is the most solemn, majestic, and melodic. As a matter of fact it's exceptionally beautiful. Its circular structure also makes it more enjoyable as the composer really knew how to utilize his central theme and melodic lines. I can see the possible influence of this work on Moszkowski's Second Concerto and Rachmaninoff's Preludes.
    In my opinion, this is really a neglected masterpiece, and should be appreciated more. However, to be honest, this is an absurdly difficult concerto with all the crazy octave and chord jumping, a reason why I think this work is not performed more often.

    • @graydusk1039
      @graydusk1039 Год назад +2

      honestly difficulty isnt issue as much now a days considering all the other crazy peices out there its just neglected ig

    • @brianknapp8645
      @brianknapp8645 10 месяцев назад

      It's highly doubtful that this concerto was influenced by Rachmaninoff as he had just started study at the conservatory in St. Petersburg in 1885 and was probably not well known around Europe yet.

    • @russelldeitch5765
      @russelldeitch5765 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@brianknapp8645Agreed. As said before... this came first.

  • @PeterLunowPL
    @PeterLunowPL 5 лет назад +9

    the more I listen the more I like it !

  • @r0mmm
    @r0mmm 3 года назад +6

    That is epic beginning...owh mai gaaawd

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 5 лет назад +5

    Bellissimo concerto di fine ottocento.Meravigliosamente romantico l'Andante ma tutto è perfettamente equilibrato tra piano e orchestra.Tecnica e ispirazione....Uno dei migliori concerti che abbia sentito.

  • @angelogarcia4220
    @angelogarcia4220 6 лет назад +23

    I love Shawarmanka.

  • @e.hutchence-composer8203
    @e.hutchence-composer8203 3 года назад +35

    As much as I love and enjoy the music of the ‘common great’ composers and revere them, it is a real tragedy that composers such as Scharwenka have fallen into obscurity. I literally just finished listening to Amy Beach’s C# minor Piano Concerto and thoroughly enjoyed it. There should be a real effort to try and save some of these composers from becoming little more than archived trifles which are only used in ‘discovery concerts’. There is something to behold in each composer’s work, regardless of their status when it comes to ranking ‘the greatest composers’.

    • @jorgefraile218
      @jorgefraile218 2 года назад +6

      She's a great and genius composer indeed!

    • @r0mmm
      @r0mmm 2 года назад +5

      I want to recommend you the imo best piano concerto out there:
      Kurt Atterberg - Pianoconcerto in Bflat-Minor.
      The NDR version is the best one.
      Go listen to it!

    • @dewittk9404
      @dewittk9404 2 года назад +3

      @@r0mmm Listening now.
      Enjoying.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 Год назад

      Just because you enjoy these terrible attempts at music, doesn't mean they're any good.

  • @leonardkuhn1124
    @leonardkuhn1124 6 лет назад +8

    Gorgeous

  • @tdgvl
    @tdgvl 4 года назад +4

    The weird syncopated triplets in the final bars are very unusual but sound very original and imposing. Very interesting piece, thank you for sharing!

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 лет назад +5

    Top notch work.

  • @Souls_p_
    @Souls_p_ Год назад +1

    Highly underrated. Astounding!

  • @user-uu4wg7is5w
    @user-uu4wg7is5w 4 месяца назад

    Beautiful ❤️😊!

  • @Tuxster3
    @Tuxster3 Год назад +4

    I'll just go ahead and say it. I would put this piano concerto up against ANY piano concerto written by the likes of Brahms, Tchaikovsky or Rachmaninoff.
    It is a brilliant piece, full of color and verve and virtuosity!

  • @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901

    FANTASTIC.

  • @dariuszrybacki5520
    @dariuszrybacki5520 Год назад +2

    This concerto, as well as Scharwenka's concertos number 4 and 2, are equally good as those of Brahms, Rachmaninov and Tchaikovsky. They stand at the same superb level. Full stop.

  • @emilyhutjes
    @emilyhutjes 8 месяцев назад +1

    After listening to 1,2 and 4 now NO: 3. They are all glorious. Thank you very much. 🌷🌷🌷(Holland) I have put No: 1 and 4 on Face-Book. I hope you don't mind sir.

  • @yowzephyr
    @yowzephyr 3 года назад +5

    0:05 is a good place to start. ^

  • @harryandruschak2843
    @harryandruschak2843 8 лет назад +1

    Impressed :)

  • @alanbash2921
    @alanbash2921 8 месяцев назад +1

    Masterpiece 📣📣📣📣📣📣📣

  • @ralfsteinhage1310
    @ralfsteinhage1310 5 лет назад +2

    wow Bravo

  • @ziegunerweiser
    @ziegunerweiser 8 лет назад +24

    Ha that's so funny I think I like this one the best!

    • @larrykolber7877
      @larrykolber7877 3 года назад +2

      I agree with you
      It am thinking of playing it

  • @derleopard2
    @derleopard2 8 лет назад +11

    cyclic thematicism, me gusta.

  • @MrMoritz76
    @MrMoritz76 5 лет назад +37

    Probably the single most underrated piano concert ever... at least Morit's Moskowsky got more attention, even his recently discovered Op 3. (first piano concerto) is more played on RUclips than this gem.

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 5 лет назад +3

      I think the op. 3 is something unto itself. I support your comment though!

    • @bennyksmusicalworld
      @bennyksmusicalworld 4 года назад +11

      Moszkowski No. 2 is another underrated gem :)

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 4 года назад +3

      @Józef Hofmann I agree wholeheartedly. This is music for a novel yet to be written.

    • @r0mmm
      @r0mmm 2 года назад +2

      C'mon, Atterberg Pianoconcerto is very underrated too!!!

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 года назад

      Scharwenka 1 and 4 have always been much more popular than 2 or 3 do this really is some of the most obscure music.

  • @Destoyerful
    @Destoyerful 8 лет назад +8

    So beautiful!! I love the Rachmaninoff Textures and piano writing :)
    It is so difficult to find a decent Piano Concerto in this Key :)

  • @vijaykrishnan7797
    @vijaykrishnan7797 2 года назад +1

    Remind me to come back and listen this

  • @jefferygong6753
    @jefferygong6753 Месяц назад +2

    The last few notes of the first theme sounds like Brahms' Quintet. That was published two decades before this piece. Just a thought, anyone?

  • @MarconildoViegas1
    @MarconildoViegas1 2 года назад +1

    Muito lindoooo.

  • @user-co5fq4lv4e
    @user-co5fq4lv4e Год назад +1

    Музыка-единственное Утешение в минуты печали. Что ты делаешь с сердцем человека???!!!
    Она и в моем СЕРДЦЕ.

  • @db8able2
    @db8able2 2 месяца назад +1

    20:00 did the pianist add some extra notes in the treble to “second” the main theme the orchestra is playing? It sounds beautiful but I can’t connect his playing to the score. Hearing some accented G#, A, and Bs. Just brilliant.

  • @mrsnegy6001
    @mrsnegy6001 Год назад +2

    About Rahmaninov's influence ::) I wonder if he heard this concerto, or even knew about it.

  • @user-lj1sc9bs4t
    @user-lj1sc9bs4t 2 года назад +1

    素晴らしいとしか言いようがない...

  • @wellingtonsoaresdacosta5635
    @wellingtonsoaresdacosta5635 4 месяца назад +1

    Ótimo.

  • @fannyjemwong
    @fannyjemwong 3 года назад +1

    precioso

  • @patoxalapa617
    @patoxalapa617 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for uploading. It's a beautiful piece. Do you have this score in PDF? The one of IMSLP is not as clean as this :(

  • @marcalexandrefontenay9801
    @marcalexandrefontenay9801 Год назад +1

    De la veine de Rachmaninoff , ce concerto très technique et virtuose ne manque pas de souffle même s’il tourne en rond ! Ancien enregistrement détestable .

  • @MagierMondMax
    @MagierMondMax 4 года назад +2

    Unfortunatly the dating 1889 is an widespread error. Scharwenka startet the sketch for his third piano concerto in Summer 1898 not 1889. The concerto was premiered on january 27th 1899. Sources like Wikipedia and IMSLP got it wrong on that point.

    • @jamesmclaughlin272
      @jamesmclaughlin272 4 года назад +2

      Do you have a source for him starting the sketch and for the premier as well? The Monthly Musical Record Vol. 29 mentions the premier in the March 1st catalogue but doesn't give a date so it obviously had to have premiered in Berlin, somewhere in the first quarter of 1899.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 4 года назад +1

      January 1899.

  • @gigogrom216
    @gigogrom216 3 года назад +2

    у Оркестра два стана, а у ф-но 4, где ещё такое можно увидеть?

  • @hyseo1121
    @hyseo1121 3 года назад +3

    Cyclic use of main theme which opens the work is notable.

  • @H5subway5707
    @H5subway5707 4 года назад +5

    29:00

    • @MrMoritz76
      @MrMoritz76 3 года назад +2

      I've played this concerto, and this part and onwards exactly was where I started, and I loved it so much, that I finished the whole piece over a few months... the ending of this concerto, the chords, melody... all of it.. just, amazing.

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 5 лет назад +2

    Touch of anger, too.

  • @erikbreathes
    @erikbreathes 3 года назад +5

    Dont u hate it when after exactly every 10 minutes youtube puts an ad in the video... if your gonna disrupt the music, at least do it between the movements

  • @erikrobinson2547
    @erikrobinson2547 4 года назад +1

    The start sounds like Star wars combined with Rachmaninov to me.

  • @whonnyjang8448
    @whonnyjang8448 2 года назад

    4:04, 16:18, 18:01, 28:14

  • @themusicalgerbil192
    @themusicalgerbil192 8 лет назад +6

    How could Scharwenka have had Rachmaninoff's prelude in mind if it hadn't been written yet?

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 лет назад +13

      +Gerbil Jim Ah yes, you're right... well, perhaps it was the other way around then ;)

    • @themusicalgerbil192
      @themusicalgerbil192 5 лет назад

      @@olla-vogala4090 Hello again, it turns out that can't be possible either, as whilst the work was written in 1889, it wasn't published until 10 years later, by which time Rachmaninoff's Op. 3 had already been composed.

    • @darrylschultz9311
      @darrylschultz9311 5 лет назад +10

      @@themusicalgerbil192 perhaps late one night Rachmaninoff snuck into where Scharwenka kept this concerto and,quiet as a mouse, he copied it out as quickly as he could before Scharwenka woke up and asked him for his autograph.

  • @Index_Kim
    @Index_Kim 2 года назад +1

    시작 0:06

  • @OpalBerries
    @OpalBerries 5 лет назад +2

    Hey, classical listener here! why the *fuck* are there ads on this? Hmm?

    • @franciscofragoeiro5229
      @franciscofragoeiro5229 4 года назад +4

      The uploadee isn't to blame. The recording isn't their property, so, whoever recorded it has the right to put ads on it. Use AdBlock.

  • @randiey95
    @randiey95 3 года назад

    31:10

  • @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901
    @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901 2 года назад +2

    A real discovery such a pity his music is seldom performed.

  • @erikbreathes
    @erikbreathes 3 года назад

    Oh my god why isnt every romanticism aficionado fanboying/-girling/-diversing over this guy he is insanely good

  • @JJC333
    @JJC333 2 года назад

    I think this piece sounds like Chopin would live longer about 79 years old to compose a concerto.

  • @publiovirgilio2238
    @publiovirgilio2238 2 года назад

    10:35 27:13

  • @Andrew-sw1cv
    @Andrew-sw1cv 5 месяцев назад

    12:35 bruh

  • @hans-jorgciesinski8878
    @hans-jorgciesinski8878 8 месяцев назад

    Warum wird dieser erstaunliche Komponist heute so ignoriert?

  • @camilohiche4475
    @camilohiche4475 3 года назад +1

    Please watch this at the lowest quality only (144p) since it's just for the music, which is much more ecologically responsible than at a higher rate. Watching this at 240p (which is unnecessary for listening purposes), will increase the bandwith by double to almost tenfold! At 1080 the bandwith is augmented by a factor of 100!
    The use of digital technology accounts for 4% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, as much as the emissions from the world's truck fleet. Of that, a BIG part comes from livestreaming videos, mainly 3 sources : RUclips, Netlfix and porn.
    Let's enjoy this beautiful music by being aware and responsible, doing our little part in decreasing our carbon footprint and protecting this wonderful planet for the generations to come.

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 22 дня назад

    It sounds like Moszkowski

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 4 года назад +3

    This is a well-written concerto, but emotionally it is hard-bitten and hifghly negative.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 4 года назад +1

      Roger Nortman -- Oh....then you won't like Prokofiev's 5th either....Richter's reading is superb!

    • @rogernortman9219
      @rogernortman9219 4 года назад

      Steve, I don't like Prokofievv, perioed. I like music that is WARM and FRIENDLY! Miaskovsky was one of the few xomposers who expressed negat!ive emotions that are musically palpable to me. The end syms. of Tschaikowsky, Dvorak, Mahler and even Bruckner, don't ennoble; they just drag me down in rgeir miasma and depressed quagmire

    • @rogernortman9219
      @rogernortman9219 4 года назад

      and depressed quagmire. Nielsen haqd the right idea in his 6th, poke fun at life as a farce! Rubinstein, also, more subyly in his 6th. Tschakowsky's 6th is the worst piece of decadent shit written in the whole 19th Cent!

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 4 года назад +6

      @@rogernortman9219 -- I can picture you now, in some remote alpine Swiss asylum with a nice view of the Eiger's north pass, in repose on a day-bed when, on occasion, a nurse forgets to administer your Prozac, and you explode with paroxysms of balderdash...until....exhausted....you slip into something more comfortable again....like a coma.....

    • @msmo105
      @msmo105 4 года назад +2

      That's weirding me out, how can you call Tchaikovsky 6th Symph. a "shit". You might not like it very much, nevertheless it is a phenomenal piece of music, the one we all can look up to.

  • @mosz1854
    @mosz1854 8 лет назад +2

    This concerto is less interesting than his other concertos~

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 лет назад +2

      Would you mind responding to my reply on your first comment about Moskowski's piano concerto?

    • @Terativ
      @Terativ 7 лет назад +3

      no I think it's one of the best

    • @Terativ
      @Terativ 7 лет назад +1

      no it really isn't

    • @PeterLunowPL
      @PeterLunowPL 6 лет назад +1

      and who are you to decide?

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 4 года назад

    In response to Steve Gallo's remarks, ever hear of cyber bullying and teasing? How dare this individual psychoanalyze a total stranger over personal, subjective musical taste! I ought to report Mr. Gallo to RUclips for harassment. My comments were very specific. Any decent person would relate to the substance, not pass judkment on a total stranger. Betcha Mr. Gallo is a Trump supporter!

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 5 лет назад

    In contrast to his first 2, I've found this concerto rather hard-bitten and cold, rather on the negative side. It's well written but not that enjoyable.

    • @petersimon5231
      @petersimon5231 5 лет назад +1

      I can enjoy that a lot more than most other piano concertos and don't find it cold or anything. Those adjectives, and others like warm, cheerful, dark etc. mostly come to mind because people are not better-equipped with adjective for music - they, we, can't do better than turn to arts and other fields to explain its quality. And those adjectives are more measurable. But most of it is nonsense. Like reverential, religious ect., which I, not brought up in any religious faith, have never felt. My adjectives for this, though, would be heroic, stentorian as someone here said, but in turn even charming (think of the 3rd movement, e.g.), so I can also do no better. One thing, I think, is certain: enjoyment of music depends both on upbringing and individual taste. Enjoy what you like!

    • @johannsebastienbach
      @johannsebastienbach Год назад +2

      Sadness is part of emotion and music is supposed to bring it

  • @jacksonvillejohn9462
    @jacksonvillejohn9462 Год назад +1

    How can someone copy someone who came after said person???

  • @adjermanovic
    @adjermanovic 6 лет назад +2

    24:24