‘Making a Murderer’ Creators: Juror Was Fearful For Their Safety | TODAY
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2016
- Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos, the filmmakers behind the Netflix documentary “Making a Murderer,” join TODAY’s Tamron Hall and Willie Geist to discuss a new development regarding Steven Avery’s case.
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‘Making a Murderer’ Creators: Juror Was Fearful For Their Safety | TODAY
That whole county government should be in prison.
The corruption is REAL in Manitowoc County.
+Tango Delta 2 had to stop a few times coz i just get so mad.
The State of Wisconsin now owes Steven Avery his entire life!!, better be ready to pay MOTHERFUCKERS!!
That`s Right!
It’s really sad, thank god for Netflix and the internet to show people this kind of corruption!
There was absolutely no physical evidence for the rape in the trailer carried out by Brendan and avery.
Either it didn't happen or two guys with an iq of 70 can clean up a crime scene like Dexter.
Which is why it's absurd that the 16 year old's story was taken as fact (that along with all the inconsistencies and his mental disability and their extreme coercion and his insistence that "they got in my head") however, this was a different trial than the 16 year olds. Stevens trial was not based on the 16 year olds story, although it did contribute somewhat. But it is crazy that the kid went to jail too. I'm not 100% convinced Steven is innocent, especially after reading the facts that the documentary "conveniently" left out that makes it completely different. but the kid definitely seemed coerced to me.
+Anna hence why the rape was thrown out in Stevens trial.
lol...who is Dexter...the dog...
Clean up the crime scene , but cover the car with a couple of branches when they had a crusher , i mean cmon man so many inconsistencies, totally framed
Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos you ladies are amazing for what you have done!
if Brendan dassy Wasn't bullied into giving that statement under pressure and making stuff up Steven Avery wuda walked,his two lawyers were great and did the best they could.
If you Google convolutedbrian, you will find a blog with the interview they conducted at Brendan's school. I believe the term is "coaching the witness". It never made much sense to me that they would repeatedly say tell the truth. I remember thinking why are they talking to him like they've had this conversation before. It made more sense when I listened to the interview. They had in fact, talked to him already. They obviously tried feeding him details before rushing him into custody for a formal interrogation. When he couldn't repeat what they had discussed at the school or when he deviated even a little, they would say, "tell the truth". I don't know if they are innocent, but it was a sloppy and skewed investigation all around.
+Robert Regalado it's a typical method in American law enforcement to say things like "don't lie" and basically force them to admit guilt. It's a big problem in the justice system, because it leads to a lot of false confessions, however, it can also be really successful in getting a guilty person to confess. There's better ways to do it though, and in the past decade people are slowly trying to implement different methods of interrogation.
It's so annoying that brendan is so dumb
cereal boy ignorance comes in many forms. Do you understand disabilities? If you did, your comment is ignorant. If not, your ignorance (not knowing) is apparent by not researching how person's of mental disabilities once an adult are by law considered "a vulnerable adult" for this very reason! They are easily cohersed, manipulated and taken advantage of! Please do your homework before publically making such a "dumb" comment
Teena Curl
Well stated and agreed.!!
The JUDGE was in on it... How he could NOT include the tampered with vial of blood, is beyond judicial malfeasance.
*****
Exactly!
I agree!
Thay had something against Tressa also
That's a good ending and making making of a murderer
Jury tampering is the only way they could come up with a guilty verdict.
+AsheeAshee I don't recall where I heard this, so take this with a grain of salt, but I heard that of the three jurors who already thought he was guilty when they started deliberating, two of them had family ties to the police department, and one of them had mentioned Brendan's confession to the group before it even came up in the trial
+Lazypackmule I've heard those things as well.. Whether he did it or not that jury should have let him go.
+Lazypackmule It's true here's the link ~ www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/29326359.html
AsheeAshee These are two disgusting people. Here's what they didn't tell you: human bone fragments were found in the burn pit on the suspect's property, the victim's belongings were found in a barrel just steps from the suspect's front door, one of the supposed "masterminds" of the supposed frame-up wasn't even in the state when the investigation was going on, and the suspect made multiple "anonymous"calls to the victim's phone even though he denied having made the calls (the cops were able to trace the calls to his sister's phone, and the sister wasn't home that day, so the suspect was the only one with access to that phone").
I hate the fact that the jury was "trading votes". Someone's life hangs in the balance, and you are afraid someone is going to know which of you voted in such a way that a mistrial occurred? This is not a game of Clue. This case was effed up from its inception.
Yeh, the magnitude of the case probably scared the jury
I'm personally an advocate for professional, informed jurors, but it's not exactly going to be a jury of your peers. But it's a double standard because the government won't trust the people to vote directly for president but will let people decide the fate of a potentially innocent person.
SpyengoEen Couldn't agree more! The jury system is so outdated, it was abolished in India in 1950s following a high profile case that was more of a media trial!
What's wrong a bench of judges deciding who have spent their entire lives studying law??
To anyone who has watched, will watch, or is watching the Netflix show Making a murderer, I want to put it out there that it's very easy to get swept away and follow the crowd, but in the end whether or not Steven Avery & Brendon Dassy are guilty isn't my biggest gripe. I feel that in order for our justice system to be a just system, it is imperative that it's leaders, representatives, and employees uphold the rules of the law and not impose unethical methods to ensure a guilty person is indeed found guilty. With that being said, both of these cases should have been tossed for police misconduct & gross mishandling. This is definitely a failure of the legal system as a whole.
Well said
you hit that nail on the head
Couldn't have said it any better. 👍
OJ Simpson was an example of police trampling and changing the scene, got Simpson off! At a great cost to public mistrust of our law enforcement. The county of the Avery case was a small rural community, and likely used their city county attorney to help guide them to "make a murderer" and eliminated financial and reputation recourse in one foul swoop by convicting Steven Avery and Bendan. Sadly, IMO, pawns in their game of corruption to damage control and possibly vengeance against Avery's lawsuit
That`s Right!
Can't prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt!
+crazydougfam This really is the bottom line. So. Much. Reasonable. Doubt!!
But hey, it seems there are few reasonable people in that town.....
irresponsible and inconsistent to say he was framed just like it was irresponsible and inconsistent to hold a huge press conference giving details of her death and the circumstances surrounding it without a shred of evidence at the time.
+Robert Regalado yup!! that whole PC by his was disgusting and unprofessional. talking about how sweaty he was and all that.
One of the really infuriating aspects of the information in the documentary was the victim's brother. He seemed completely blind to the evidence and was simply dead set on seeing Avery convicted. Surely he wanted to find the RIGHT person to pay for what happened to his sister, not just ANY person. It just did not seem that way.
Zargunt Bilko I agree. The brother was either involved or maybe that family was a little slow too. Maybe the whole county is slow and the smartest of them couldnt even put up a good prosicution. It was blatently obvious what was going on and the result is an embarrassment to the American judicial system. Thankfully most Americans disagree with their findings. Hard to keep the faith when stuff like this is being fed to the general public. We are not all so easily fooled.
One of the Deputies fathers was on the jury, did anyone know this? Also, 2 jurors were dismissed, the man whose daughter who was in a suspicious car accident, a van cut her off and slammed on his brakes in front of her with no one around but the Sheriff's Deputies who were not at the court house that day. The Judge dismissed him as "attending his daughter's funeral" in the legal documents. The second one was one of the other 7 who voted not guilty and was asking too many questions, so they were also dismissed and were replaced by an alternate. Also, the 7 who believed he was not guilty at first, there were 3 undecided and 2 for guilty, asked for Bobby Dassey's testimony to try and back up their position, however, the judge would not give it to them. He only gave them what he thought was necessary, he said it was too long. They wanted to check his conflicting timelines or something like that and that was the part they were denied. It was easy to convict Steven when they already believed that Brendan had confessed and even Teresa's brother hadn't seen that "confession" never mind the jurors, they only heard the horror story "please if you're under the age of 15 turn the tv off" version from Krantz the perv and it didn't even match the evidence or the forensics. I'm sure the Deputy's father was not going to walk out of that juror's room with a not guilty hanging over his head. Steven and Brendan were doomed from the git go, I can see why they did this documentary and why they followed this case for 10 years. What a travesty of justice.
Both sides of the case agree to their jurors. They are allowed to dismiss a juror without giving a reason. Therefore, it tends to be half and half, half for the pros. And half for the defense So if there were any swaying jurors, such as relative of a law enforcement, the defense consented to them, so it is completely legal, and since they know what they're doing as lawyers, it clearly wasn't a problem to them.
Anna No, you can only dismiss so many from each side. You need to watch some interviews with Steven Avery's attorneys.
Lori zh his name is Brenden not Bobby
For that jury member to not come forward sooner is just terrible... how does one live with that fear... how corrupt is MC... are people's lives in danger if they speak the truth?
Peter Grant Yes. There is only one reason that they would do that. Fear. Fear that they would take out my own sister would slow me down a bit.
Excellent documentary that will keep you watching to the end.
there s só many reasonable doubts in this case. only dirty people would get them convicted... its só hard to watch...
God help the people of America!! As an outsider looking in, and someone who lives in a country where we do not see ANY of this corruption of individuals, an entire system in chaos and criminality from the police to the prosecutors to the courts all the way up to the Supreme Court, this case exemplifies all the dishonesty and the actual bastardization of the legal system in America today. What have you done?
If that juror comes out they're suddenly going to find evidence they were involved as well.
The state coroner that was not linked to the 35mil lawsuit couldnt go to the crime scene which is mandatory by law. However, the cop that was part of the lawsuit AND was not supposed to be there was at the crime scene unsupervised is a disgrace to our justice system.
the spin of people who did this to the averys is terrerfying, i am in deep shock, that this system/people around it, could do as they did, i mean wauw, the corruption, the lack of evidence and DNA, i mean this is just beyond sad, and if it werent enough, with taking away a man half of his life, they seeked out to ruin a teenager (brendan dassey, 16 at the time)'s life, so much evil, i cant even look at manitowoc sign without getting freaked out by disgust.
I just think that they know the real killer. But the real killer and dirty cops made a deal in order to frame Steven. I think they were looking for any trouble to put Steven back in prison second time, ever since he sue them.
there's a lot of bad cops out there I've seen it for myself in Dayton Ohio by watching out my alley one day watching them rape a girl in the alley where they covered it up all they did was laugh at me told me if I didn't get a back at my house it would happen to me so if you think there's not bad cops out there you better think again the rotten and they can be very dirty there are just as many good as her is bad thank you Dayton Ohio
there's a lot of bad cops out there I've seen it for myself in Dayton Ohio by watching out my alley one day watching them rape a girl in the alley where they covered it up all they did was laugh at me told me if I didn't get a back at my house it would happen to me so if you think there's not bad cops out there you better think again the rotten and they can be very dirty there are just as many good as her is bad thank you Dayton Photo Cost a sneak
there's a lot of bad cops out there I've seen it for myself in Dayton Ohio by watching out my alley one day watching them rape a girl in the alley where they covered it up all they did was laugh at me told me if I didn't get a back at my house it would happen to me so if you think there's not bad cops out there you better think again the rotten and they can be very dirty there are just as many good as her is bad thank you Dayton Photo Cost a
there's a lot of bad cops out there I've seen it for myself in Dayton Ohio by watching out my alley one day watching them rape a girl in the alley where they covered it up all they did was laugh at me told me if I didn't get a back at my house it would happen to me so if you think there's not bad cops out there you better think again the rotten and they can be very dirty there are just as many good as her is bad thank you Dayton Photo Cost a
there's a lot of bad cops out there I've seen it for myself in Dayton Ohio by watching out my alley one day watching them rape a girl in the alley where they covered it up all they did was laugh at me told me if I didn't get a back at my house it would happen to me so if you think there's not bad cops out there you better think again the rotten and they can be very dirty there are just as many good as her is bad thank you Dayton Photo Cost a I'm going on my god
Krats is a disgrace using his power to Bully and sexual harassing Domestic violence victims. he would of continue along with the other fools covering for him. hmmm karma Doesn't know the meaning of taking an oath and upholding the community.
Wtf? If I was a juror, the second I heard people start trading votes I would be like, "Um, can I get some backup in here? All of these jurors need to be removed."
"Why didn't you tell us?"
"Because I couldn't think of it."
Can't help but laugh and cry at the ridiculousness of it all.
...and he couldn`t think of it `cause it DIDN`T exist!!!
@@mandycote3652 It's unclear whether or not Brendan was there when Avery shot her 10 times with his .22, but it certainly did happen.
Best I've ever seen really
What type of evidence would bring this case back to life? Would it only have to be DNA evidence? Because I've been looking on RUclips and there have been a handful of witness testimony that doesn't put Steven Avery in the time frame the murder took place.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE JUST PUT HIM ON A LIE DETECTOR TEST!! jesus. even if it cant be used in court I just wanna know. lets just be real, steven is not smart enough to alter the results. and if he is a mental genius then it was pretty dumb to leave the keys just laying around don't you think? I HATE IT!!
Police corruption... oh wait, now i'm going prison
Some great stuff coming out of Netflix is good news, definitely. Thank God for those two incredible filmmakers.
This is scary just think that can happen to anybody
He is innocent!! ugh made me so mad and sad at the same time when the judge read the verdict. There isn't enough evidence and I truly believe those cops are corrupt and were being vindictive! Bobby Dassey rubbed me the wrong way though... he seemed very suspicious to me.....
I believe that they are not guilty I believe that the cops were dirty they were not doing their job I think the lawyers weren't doing their job I think that that the mother should been sending and then they're in the room with the child the whole time he was being question I had to with my daughter there are good cops but there's more bad and there are good and I know because I lived in Dayton Ohio and I've seen it with my own eyeballs
trading votes is OK if life imprisonment hangs in the balance. Such bullshit. Kratz repeatedly says he's trying to find the truth but keeps leaning on 3rd party liability. They were not genuinely interested in finding the killer. They were trying to save face and $36 mill. Conflict of interest to the nth degree. I hope hell is where all these bastards go to burn. I'm hoping for their sake there is no karma as the only equivalent payback for something like this is cancer for their spouses and children.
This is good more people need to talk about it I bet the corrupt people who put them away I actually breaking it by now
Well thats all irrelevant unless they can get the juror to come forward and other jurors to verify right? They should do the right thing. They both got denied new trials recently. So what they waiting for?
A friend has an ovilus, ghost box, through which the spirit of the victim may clearly identify her killer.
"We lesbians were impartial and never took sides."
Wrongfully convicted of rape and spent 18 years in prison- got $400000 for 18 years behind prison- that's $2.53 for every hour his freedom was robbed from him. Talk about rubbing salt into a wound! Watch my videos on the evidence and make your own decision!
The jury was as bad the Casey Anthony jury! How TF do you see the evidence and say guilty smh
Watch my videos on the evidence and make your own decision! There were two jurors who had a clear tie with the police department- one was a father of the Manitwoc sheriffs dept deputy! The other was related to another police officer. I'm not a lawyer but there seems to be a clear bias here! Was it a fair trial..? His own brother was tried for sexual misconduct against various women, including his OWN daughters?! Wtf- Many viewers are making their judgements based on the show 'making a murderer' - it's good to see people searching deeper for more information and questioning how biased the show was/ corrupt the police department were/ are. I have analysed all of the evidence and made my conclusions based on additional info not included in the documentary- if anyone's interested then view my videos on the matter! Viva justice and death to corruption and injustice!
I knew it! #Appeal2016
Moira Demos is beautiful.
+HereYaGo2kSupport Oh come on, she kinda reminds me of trinity from matrix.
Those eyes man!!
Yea but you won't get her because she's a lesbian.
I understand you fear for your safety but you can’t take part in railroading this mans life
I would highly recommend watching a movie very relevant to this situation - 12 by Nikita Mikhalkov www.imdb.com/title/tt0488478/ This movie shows how prejudiced people can be. During murder trial all but one juror were convinced a Chechen boy, who Russians were prejudiced against, killed his own step-father, a Russian officer who adopted him during Chechen war. That one juror was able to raise enough questions to get the jury to be less prejudiced and to actually think about the evidence, which led to show the boy's innocence. This movie is very similar to this real life case of Steven Avery.
Love them!!!!!!!
People are obsessed because we are a part of it
Amazing documentary by amazing women
He killed a cat.
Nice Job I am a cat lover and this part disturbed me too. However he was not more than a child at the time and I dont care who you are there are few amongst us who could go into a witness box without having something in their lives that they regret but cannot erase. This could have been the reason that he did not want to take the stand.
Just follow the money.
Ei sunt NEVINOVAȚI daca dețineți putine notiuni de psihologie vedeti declarațiile lor si va dati seama de NEVINOVĂȚIA celor 2 😢
Thay knew before stevan got out of jail that there was going to be a big law suite so they picked that girl long before dhe died that she was going to be killed she was there one thay set her up to feel sorry for her thay had something against her also maby taken pic i feel the pics have something to do with ot
horrible representation of the situation
INNOCENT!
BRENDAN DASSEY , WOULDN'T SAY ALL THE SICKENING FACTS HE CLAIMED IF IT WERE NOT TRUE
He mentioned "kiss the girls" in the court which is a book/movie that shows exactly that
Trump needs to get this guy out and stop worrying about building a wall
Girls, you proved Steven Avery not guilty. and Jurys are a joke
Dupa 18 ani petrecuți nevinovat in inchisoare ,inchis tot de aceeași polițiști nu se poate sa fie din nou inchis pe baza niciunei probe directe (treaba cu sangele cu sangele masina e de ras😂 iar cheia de la masina apărută miraculos dupa atatea perchezitii DAR ATENTIE doar cu adn ul lui Steven,nu si al Theresei care o folosea zilnic .... Clar a fost plantată 😢 si uite asa am nenorocit 2 Persoane dar am scapat de plata a 36.000.000$.
Deci toti haterii lasati o asa ca nu stii ce ti aduce ziua de mâine, numai condamnati voi acesti 2 oameni doar pentru ca nu erau agreati ca familie in Minotwoc
These are two disgusting people. Here's what they didn't tell you: human bone fragments were found in the burn pit on the suspect's property, the victim's belongings were found in a barrel just steps from the suspect's front door, one of the supposed "masterminds" of the supposed frame-up wasn't even in the state when the investigation was going on, and the suspect made multiple "anonymous"calls to the victim's phone even though he denied having made the calls (the cops were able to trace the calls to his sister's phone, and the sister wasn't home that day, so the suspect was the only one with access to that phone").
Mike R. And of course the suspect committed this horrendous crime and just left all the evidence right there to implicate himself...
Murderer at large.
He did it his DNa was everywhere
I believe that they are not guilty I believe that the cops were dirty they were not doing their job I think the lawyers weren't doing their job I think that that the mother should been sending and then they're in the room with the child the whole time he was being question I had to with my daughter there are good cops but there's more bad and there are good and I know because I lived in Dayton Ohio and I've seen it with my own eyeballs
Jury tampering is the only way they could come up with a guilty verdict.