The Omega Speedmaster 321: History Comes Alive | A Week On The Wrist
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2020
- For the full review, go to: www.hodinkee.com/articles/ome...
In this episode of A Week On The Wrist, Jack takes a closer look at the much anticipated and sought after Omega Speedmaster 321 in Stainless Steel. The classic movement has been resurrected from the past but how does it fare compared to the current Moonwatch and the original Moonwatch from which it was born?
"Like Captain America, the caliber 321 fell from the heights into the seemingly unrecoverable depths of history - and like the Avenger, it has risen, unexpectedly, to attempt to become a new hero in a new, different, and very challenging world." 
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Thanks for watching our Week On The Wrist Review. We hope you enjoyed it. We incorrectly stated in the video that Omega will be making 2,000 of these watches a year. The company says that they expect to do about 1,000 a year at the outset. For more information go to www.hodinkee.com/articles/omega-speedmaster-321-397mm-in-steel-review
Could you recommend us any source to learn about column wheel, lateral clutch, ...?, (preferably a video). Thanks.
Was that just for 2020 or 1000 per year going forward?
Will never get tired of Jack Forster talking about Speedmasters. Keep on keeping on, Jack.
Better than that time he talked about Leicas, right? 😄
Love listening to Jack about watches in general...
Jack’s words were drowned out by the mere fact he was wearing a watch on each wrist.
It’s funny that people talk about this watch being expensive, when the original 321 movement is basically a Lemania 2310, a movement used almost exclusively in $40-100k watches (e.g. Vacheron, Patek)
Feels expensive for a speedy but I don't think it is too expensive at all. Retail for it is more than reasonable. The cost of watches with a Lemania 2310 ébauche is more about the finishing of the case, dial and movement but it is absolutely an all time great. One of the finest column wheel, lateral clutch movements ever imo.
Hodinkee, these macro shots of beautiful watches need to be in 4K!!!
Thumbs up if you want that sweet resolution.
Jack, your content production for Hodinkee is totally awesome, many thanks for bringing a smile to my face today. I own a 105.003 and a 145.012, both fitted with 321 original mouvements and once you have manipulated one compared to the later iterations, you know the feeling !
Always love your thoughtful reviews on some historic timepieces. This is a holy grail for some and worthy of doing a little time travel in a collection. I met my first Speedy in the early 2000s and purchased an 1863 with a sapphire displayback and hesalite crystal for the then princely sum of $2K. I always loved its plastic crystal and thought it's weird but delightful to have a sapphire back. Fast forward decades later and I'm satisfied with my only Speedy, this despite many changes and this latest and greatest 321. Maybe I'm not a true believer, but just maybe there's so much depth and breadth to watches that it's too hard to look back when there's still so much more to experience, and so little time left to do it. Best wishes to anyone who aquires this special timepiece and all the places it will take you.
An apple watch on one hand. A casio on the other. And talking about the speedmaster. Insanity !!!
some people just want to watch the world burn, haha.
It’s a Timex actually.
@@willhall7232 love my Titanium Square Gshock Casio do great watches
a Vincero add started prior to this Hodinkee video. The difference couldn't be larger.
Excellent video and commentary, great job, thank you for the information.
The production quality of this video is amazing, great work guys. Also, kudos to Omega for issuing a sub-40mm manual Speedy.
That movement is a stunner
Thank you! Excellent description of your take on the vintage feel of this watch. I really did not want to order one, without first seeing one in real life, but your video and description has greatly helped me with my decision. The guys at my local Boutique are good enough to let me know when they receive one for another client, but my timing has just been off, so I still haven't been able to see one. Now I can definitely give good consideration to ordering and owning this watch! Cheers, Carl
Thanks Jack! Can't wait to get mine. Got the call from the boutique that it will be in a week's time yay!!
I see a lot of comments here mentioning the price as the biggest downside about this watch, and would have to agree that $14k for an Omega (no matter how good) is far too much. It’s like Omega decided to follow Rolex up the price ladder but at a hypersonic speed(master😅). The pricing is definitely wrong on this one
I wish that Omega had used a DOMED sapphire crystal instead of their usual boxed, milky-circle crystal. You shouldn't have to choose between the aesthetics of hesalite and the durability of sapphire.
Incredible watch, probably the most important piece since Omega stoped to produce the 321…
Definitely a collector!❤❤❤
Finally! Jack is back with a great watch!!!
got to have this in your collection.
Stunning. A grail piece.
beautiful watch, beautiful movement!!
Great video. Thank you.
This 321 and the new Snoopy have been absolute home runs for omega. In 5 years from now people will be saying, "remember when you use to be able to get a Speedmaster professional at the AD with a discount." Lots of people are sick of the Rolex AD games and heading over to Omega because of it.
Thanks for this great article and sharing your experience ! I have chance to acquire this model. Oh my god! 🎉❤❤
A really good job!
That’s the perfect chronograph- outstanding...
Great Watch! Love the smaller case and the 3 link bracelet...looks more refined than the standard Speedmaster Pro 👌🏼😊
Very well done, Jack. Would love to see a short article (a long one if you don't have time) on how the Lemania 2310 production stopped, yet it kept showing up in Breguet, VC, and Patek high-horology chronographs. Smashed tooling, hoarded ebauches?
On the list hoping to get the call soon. beautiful watch
$14k?! I’d rather buy two Travel Clocks and pocket the change.
Amazingly superb Jack
So many people whined about the price, look, the pricing, and the manufacturing process involved with this watch speaks for itself, this isn’t going to be your regular speedy, they aren’t meant for people who just wants a speedy. This watch is for collectors who would appreciate something more than your everyday speedmasters. And Omega knows how many of those people are out there waiting to hand over the cash for such timepiece. And they’ve certainly succeeded, the waitlist is around a year at my local boutique until this day, so really, they are selling like hot cakes.
Everyone want's to complain about the price, but I truly think this is a far more beautiful, detailed, emotion inducing watch than the Daytona is. Not to mention, if this had the Rolex crown on it, being the storied and renowned, small run, hand assembled by a single watchmaker movement/watch, it would be far more expensive. I would choose this over a Daytona a thousand times over.
At that price one can get a real vintage 1960s " caliber 321 " Speedmaster105.003 and for far less a 1960s "caliber 321 " 145.012 Speedmaster...
Yes, and all the problems that go with it.
Nicest bracelet in the lineup for years.
I purchased the bracelet from Omega for $710 and put it on my 1861 Omega Speedmaster and it fits and looks great
In my opinion this is literally on par with the SS Daytona and more likely attainable. I will get one hopefully in due time and Rolex can kiss their waiting list AD bs goodbye from me.
This man is wearing a watch on each wrist...
I have my dads speedmaster from the 70’s. I had it redone all new! I still remember the lady’s face when I brought it in. It’s the moonwatch. It is such a classic look a man or women can wear it, I’m a lady I love its a classic
you had it redone?! if it was functional you should have kept it as it was to preserve value. but if not then great choice, it's an amazing watch
@@brhyme92 Speedmasters from the 70s aren't particularly valuable. Once they switched from the c.321 to the c.861 following the moon landing, they were produced in fairly high numbers so they aren't really rare at all. In my opinion, you might as well restore it and get it looking new if it doesn't have any particular historical significance and you're not a collector that's trying to catalog how the watch changed over time.
It's very inappropriate and unlady like for a woman to wear a man's watch
@@NoShame86 - what century are you living in? Unladylike? I guess a corset is enough hardware. A woman can pull off a man’s watch these days. If the shoe fits, wear it.
I had the first Sapphire Speedmaster with 1863 movement. I never liked the fact that it was non -hacking and it always ran right up to edge of its +11 seconds a day rating. I sold it and got the 2021 revision of the Speedmaster. To me it's vastly superior. Its 3861 Co-Axial Master movement is amazing. I've had mine for a few months and whether wound every day or every other day it runs at a consistent +1 second a day. Oh and it hacks. I respect the long history of the Speedys but for me this current model is the new grail.
I have been wearing my " 25 years Apollo 11 " Speedmaster as a daily beater between July 1994 and July 2019... that was 25 years, of which 22 years without maintenance !
Oh and back then it was priced about US $ 1000.00
I love mechanical movement displayed, no rotor blocking the view.
What a stunning timepiece.. Love mine
That bracelet is amazing, much better than current bracelet on other Speedmasters. Looks more refined and sophisticated
The best movement for this watch!!! 👍👍👍
Nice video and watch!
The shelf behind you is gorgeous. What is the brand of these?
Would love to have this for a week
Platinum and meteorite 321 on the strap is gorgeous.
This is my dream watch.
This one and the new Snoopy blue dial are the best looking and functional chronographs available in the market
For those complaining about the price here, I can’t afford it either, but you’re kind of missing the point. if you can’t appreciate the differences between the Ed White 321 here and the normal one, then it’s really not for you. You’d say the same thing if it were, say, $2,000-$3,000 more. This is a watch for those who don’t have to determine whether or not it’s “worth it” or “going to appreciate like a Daytona”. The person who buys this watch isn’t constrained by budget and buys it for the love of what it is. Just because you can’t understand that or can’t afford that doesn’t mean it’s overpriced. It’s worth whatever people are willing to pay for it, just like $1,000+ smartphones and $100,000+ sports cars.
EXACTLY THIS! Thanks for saying this out loud! We have so many complainers... It‘s ridic.. fk them!
Id say the price is justified, since the movement is literally made of gold 😂
Whoever complaining about the price, remember, you’re already not acting rationally when you spend more than 300 for a wrist watch.
There is no way any Omega today is worth the price. I love them but paying the kind of money they ask for is simply idiotic. The prices have skyrocketed so far beyond inflation over the years it is nearly comical.
yeah you could say that about literally anything though: "If you can't appreciate this, you shouldn't have an opinion on the price" lol. I do think it was clever by omega to price the retail high. It seems that every limited edition piece these days gets swooped up and resold for more. Its a lot of hype, so might as well price that in at retail. This will weed out the fringe buyers and some resellers, while also appealing to enthusiasts who are not price sensitive. I get it, but maybe a lot more people would go for this model at a lower price, and maybe that would have helped omega gain some new luster and customers in a world where everyone just wants a rolex. Personally, I think its a great project, but to me its not competitive with other watches at that price point.
Very nice watch, but that price is ridiculous!
What's the exact name of the moon meteorite Omega used in Platinum 321?
While fully appreciating the effort to re-create the 321, no way I'd pay 14K for a steel (never been in space let alone the moon) Speedmaster when one can acquire the ceramic versions or even gold versions for much less.
Yeah.. in case you didn‘t know: ALL the speedys haven‘t been on the moon or in space... so this part of your comment is dumb.
Almost vomited on my phone when I saw the price.
It's a bit more than what some of us were hoping for, but if you know what you're getting, it's not crazy.
Jack's voice sounds like the actor David Strathairn. He should sign off with 'Good night, and good luck'
My grail!!! Much more then the snoopy.. One day!
Best Speedy on the Omega Catalog. Impossible price.
Im such a speedy fan... i wear one with the FP 3301 movement. This watch is pretty interesting.
Loved every minute of this. Until the price came up.
Great watch nobody's going to Mug you for it which is nice
Thanks 😊 Great video 📹
So true
Well, if you are in NYC, they will mug you regardless of what watch you are wearing.. 🤣
@@BROON71 Bloody hell 😳 dangerous 😳 place 😳
does this bracelet work on a normal speedy?
This is a lovely timepiece and I also really like the slimmer size. However, as much as I understand all the effort put into it, I simply cannot justify paying almost TRIPLE the price of a regular Moonwatch. It is just ridicolous.
I would have loved to see some technical improvements (larger power reserve/chronometer certification) to the movement rather than a reproduction without spec bump, everyone knows the technical superiority of the cal. 4130. If Omega wishes to keep the 321 in limited hand-produced style, I'd expect hand finishing to the movement with a slightly higher price point, and a quick-adjust clasp on the bracelet.
I don't understand how Vacheron get their 2310/2320s for the Cornes de Vache for example. It's pretty much the same and Swatch Group's own Breguet is the actual Lemania manufacture. Why was it so hard to re-engineer the 321 and who currently makes the ébauche for others to use? Does VC manufacture themselves the whole thing?
Did I just see a casio and an apple watch?
Cool watch, though I’m more than happy with my Speedy pro!!!
this guy loves watches so much he's wearing two
Wearing an apple watch AND Casio watch while talking about great watches.......sure, I guess?
Fud
As a huge fan of the 2310/321 movement, a huge fan of the vintage omega logo and the design of this speedster, this is the one to own imo. I wouldn't be upset if they changed to a standard SuperLuminova but it isn't overly done either so it doesn't irk me like it does on some watches.
Is the Speedy Pro on the black Omega leather strap shown in this video much better looking than it's steel counterpart? Asking for your opinion.
I wore mine with a nato strap.
Is the new 321 bracelet can fit on ck2998?
why would you not show a display casebook 1861 as a comparison?
Jack Forster double wristing it for the win
Would love to see skx007/009 on this series!!
The perfect Speedy and chrono
1:41 In fact astronaut Eugene Cernan wore that NASA 105.003 Speedmaster #28 during Gemini IX, Apollo 10 and Apollo 17 (underneath spacesuit on the Moon) #MoonwatchUniverse
It’s extremely special
Love this Speedy, where can I find the background music? 😍
Really want a 2310 watch for my collection. Can not imagine buying a Patek ot Vacheron. Omega sounds good though.
The Omega is a lovely watch indeed. How come Jack did not try it on..
This should have been a James Stacey video though, with the watch being rattled about in a Rover, artfully caked with mud, and banged against a scuba tank for good measure a few times.
That would be Jason Heaton. James would just model the speedy against his green jacket.
Absolutely love the new 321 Speedmaster and would rather spend serious money on this than the Daytona.
A bit disappointed to see Jack double wristing Apple and Casio, while talking about the epitome of 20th century mechanical watch. But we know Hodinkee is in love with Apple....
Hodinkee has become a website for rich rich people....
When hasn't it been?
They still cover products as low as SWATCH watches... there's something for everyone
@@magpiemorris4054 millionaires want to buy presents for their servants....maybe a swatch is the right thing
@@ElijsDima in the beginning of their site they didn’t sit on cloud 9
@@OWR0406 They literally had a "value proposition" article posted on the same date. It covered a sub 1K watch.
Love it
Nice brand new Lemania CH27 C12
i love it.
Well, at that price, you have nothing to sell.
Where is the video where Jack discusses each of the clocks in the background?
and also the travel clock?
Great watch for sure - but 14k$ 😨
What is the watch shown in the intro at 8 seconds in?
Citizen Eco-Drive Caliber 0100
That's the Halios Seaforth Roldorf Edition. The video of James Stacey wearing it is here: ruclips.net/video/LLT5pssG2oU/видео.html and the article is here: www.hodinkee.com/articles/my-leica-james-stacey James stacey shows it as the watch he wore most in 2019 here: www.hodinkee.com/articles/watch-i-wore-most-2019
Gotta pay to play. Beautiful example but way out of my league. I still hope to see one in person someday.
perfection
Out of interest would that 19mm braclet fit a FOIS speedy ?
I heard someone say they heard someone else say their AD told them it wouldn't fit. Take that with a grain of salt, obviously. :)
Thought about the same. It would be great if it fits.
Why would you wear 2 unrelated watches for the whole show, and call the show "watches on the wrist"??
Get your eyes checked mate its serious
I’ve never owned a Speedy. Can someone please tell me what the signifcance/meaning of the “dot over 90 on the bezel”’is? This is the 2nd or 3rd time I’ve heard that
The best answer I can give would be to forward you to the experts over at Fratello Watches: www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-differences-speedmaster-bezels/
Also, I believe there is a "Reference Points" video that Hodinkee made about the Omega Speedmaster that includes details on the Dot Over Ninety/DON bezel. Cheers!
Original Speedmasters’ bezel had the dot of the 90 marking above the number. Later versions had it to the right of the number. That is one of the easy clues for recognizing a version of the ones that were used on the Apolo moon program. (The complete story is more complex and long.)
Its a watch geek thing. Much like Rolex green sub with flat 4 font, original production during that time period had their designs as such. If youtube was around back in those days, I'm sure some reviewer would say " the new bezel design now has the dot in the center of the 90.......wow, huge improvement." after Omega released a new version back in the 70s.
Lovely. But too expensive compared to the regular pro.
19mm lugs and 39mm case, with that price im out
I like Jack.
It seems in this video that the faux patina is very subdued compared to other videos and the pictures on Omega’s website. Is this because of how it was captured on the camera or is the patina exaggerated in other examples and pictures? I’m not a fan of faux patina and it’s holding me back from loving this watch, but the way it appears in this video is not bad at all.
I noticed this too. Looks white. I was offered this watch in an Omega boutique but didn’t like the faux patina (and the price was pretty sharp) so I’ve seen it in the flesh. This looks like a different dial.
Great episode. Just a suggestion but when placing two watches side by side why not start the chrono at the same time instead of having one run faster than the other? I think with the two versions it would have been nice to really see how the hands compared.
Speedmaster, the simpest of all watches.
O.K. I have never owned A Speedmaster with a 321 movement, i will say that straight off the bat. I now possess two Speedmasters & began my Watch Collecting with a 1974 145.022, with the 861 movement. I wore it for 22 Years, NOT just one week. My current 145.0222 is running the 1861 movement. As far as i understand, the 321 movement runs at 18,000 B.P.H. Also, Omega used this movement in some older Seamaster chronographs before 1957. Yes, that is the movement that mostly went to the moon. It is reliable & robust. But not as accurate as the 861/1861, & much more finikky to service. Watchmakers do NOT like working on this movement. Previous to Omega " Relaunching" the 321, my understanding is that it was/is owned by Breuget? So what's The Big Deal in manufacturing it??? I smell the Ripoff Fish here? $14K U.S. for a movement that is Standard Production in The Industry? HUH? WHAAAA? I don't think so. Omega should make this the " Standard Production" Moonwatch if that movement is such Hot Poop? But they won't. It's an Expensive Exclusive & will cost You all Your Limbs to get serviced, plus a Real Close HairCut. I Love my Tough-As-Nails, accurate to 3"+|- 1861 & i will be wearing until the End of My Days! NOT just A Freebie Week!