Omega Speedmaster 3861 - Hesalite or Sapphire?
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2022
- Hesalite
310.30.42.50.01.001
42mm case
13.7mm thick
47.3mm lug to lug
20mm lug width
50m water resistance
Cal. 3861 w/ 50 hours power reserve
$6,400
Sapphire
310.30.42.50.01.002
42mm case
13.3mm thick
47.3mm lug to lug
20mm lug width
50m water resistance
Cal. 3861 w/ 50 hours power reserve
$7,200
FOIS (Discontinued)
311.32.40.30.01.001
39.7mm case
13.7mm thick
47.1mm lug to lug
19mm lug width
50m water resistance
Cal. 1861 w/ 38 hours power reserve
$5,300
If Omega had an option for hesalite on the dial and sapphire on the case back every employee at the company could have retired by now.
You might be right.
They used to make that. It was discontinued some years ago.
Why is that?
You may already be aware, but the reference 3572.50 was exactly that, and still fairly easy to come by. Was sold from the late 90s through to the 2000s. 1861 though of course.
I think what you want is slightly modified dial so that sapphire doesn't show the milky ring. They have other sapphire crystals without the ring, but what do I know?
No matter what version you get they all good in their own way.
I’m in Singapore and enjoy watching your videos Brad. Don’t normally comment, but had to for this; Hesalite all the way! Love mine for the clarity it gives (no milky edge), consistency of the bracelet (no shiny bits) and honesty to the original (no view of the movement, as I know it’s in there!). Cheers
Thanks for viewing and commenting!
Same here ...+ You can simply apply a super thin 0.1mm soft tpu film on the hesalite and it won't scratch anymore
H E S A L I T E front, S A P P H I R E back. That's what Omega should have done with this generation. This is the reason i don't prefer to buy one, cause i can't decide between the beauty of the Hesalite glass and the clear case back!
Sapphire sandwich for me! Honestly don't notice the milky ring because the dial and the hands are just so mesmerizing!
Sapphire all day 👍
That movement is too nice to cover up.
Great comparaison 👍
Got the sapphire. Enjoy looking at the movement from time to time.
sapphire version for me. Love everything about it.
Pulled the trigger on the sapphire version last week after contemplating for a long time which to purchase as my first ‘luxury’ watch. Very happy with my choice and personally love the slightly flashier nature of the sapphire’s bracelet. The open case back and omega logo are also little wins for me.
Congrats on picking one up. Enjoy wearing it!
I had them both and I prefer the sapphire. Mainly because the breclete has some polish on it.
Sapphire. I don't plan to go to the moon, but that is a great watch
Hesalite for me. No doubt
Just got the sapphire model. The open case back, scratch resistance crystal and the polished details on the bracelet did it for me. I think it's worth the difference in price. Great video BTW!
Thanks for viewing and congrats on getting yours. Enjoy wearing it!
I am a proud owner of both the hesilite and FOIS.. enjoy the traditional vibe of them both... defantly keepers..
The FOIS is such an underrated watch!
I bought my hesalite Speedy from Brad last month…I absolutely love it and decided to go that way because I personally feel the hesalite just looks better than sapphire, along with the more vintage vibe and being more closely related to the original. It’s also the one that’s still NASA flight qualified.
I highly recommend Brad and Brent Miller to anyone looking to pick one up. Absolutely top notch experience.
We hope you enjoy wearing it for years to come! Thank you for the kind words.
Me too went with hesalite! It's simply the more "romantic" Version haha... it's just beautiful with the brushed bracelet... it's a classic tool watch appeal. Understated , beautiful and confident!
I have yet to buy one though I’m leaning towards the sapphire bc I know I’ll want to peek at that beautiful movement. Also ill be less worried that it’ll scratch when I wear it daily.
I like the sapphire sandwich more but I will pull the trigger on the hesalite because I can get one for $5000 usd whereas the sandwich is $6500-$7000. I’d never pay more than 5 G’s for an Omega.
Thanks for the great detailed comparison vid. I really think the sapphire sandwich is the better chrono for my money. Plus its so much easier to tell read the watch will the prominently white hands.
It’d be awesome if you could put the sapphire crystal on the hesalite bracelet
Sapphire from El at Brent L Miller :-). Love it and great AD
We hope you are enjoying it and El is the best!
The sapphire sandwich also has the applied logo.
I had an hesalite...i have another omega (seamasters) and after a while a get bored about whatching the movement..thats why i choose hesalite! And honestly i prefer and the braclets without polish part.. no skretch !
Plus u can simply apply a super thin 0.1mm soft tpu film on the hesalite and it won't scratch anymore.
One additional difference on the sapphire the omega logo is raised on the dial vs printed on the hesalite. Correct me if I am wrong here.
But great video overall.
My ideal combo would be:
Hesalite
Raised logo
Brushed bracelet
Sapphire case back
Fantastic fall and winter watch. My Diver dominates the summer and spring.
I have a 3861 sapphire open back, and I love it! I wanted something more durable, so the sapphire option was easy to choose.
Open case back all day
I bought the Exalite but ... with strap and in the future buy the brazalet of the saphire. I like more the Exalite and the case back with the vintage feeling. If I whant to see the beautifull movement I have to check a video 😅 but I don´t like the case back of the saphire.
sapphire 3861 rocks !!
Sapphire Sandwich 3861 is the best moonwatch ever
Why don't watch sellers inform ppl there are super thin 0.1 mm soft tpu film for hesalite that are invisible and cheap? It makes hesalite scratch proof.
Mine's 1 year old and zero scratches .
Love the hesalite for the tool watch look. Brushed bracelet, solid case back and the dome of the hesalite plus the distortion.
Thanks for viewing and commenting. You are right, you don't hear about this option very often, but instead most will use polywatch for any small scratches. Does the tpu leave any type of residue when removed?
@@brentmillertime8778 oh it's perfectly clean .no residue at all
Anyone have a link to these tpu films ?
sapphire , peace of mind , no stress for scratch !! no much different in person than on camera will pick the halo ring more .
You know there is a super thin TPU film that makes hesalite scratch proof.
Honestly, hesalite is more suitable for daily “aggresive” use due to its thickness (slightly though), whereas sapphire version is more suitable for formal company dinner and the likes. If one has the extra cash, one may consider to buy both instead , over and above one’s existing Rolex 🤭in my sweetest dream ever, if only 😅
I am picking up tomorrow a hesalite version. As an owner of several time pieces, some of them with clear case back with really nice movements, something tell me in this case solid case back is the right decision. Thank you for the information.
BOTH!
Leaning toward the sapphire sandwich.
On this version, sapphire all the way. Applied logo and see through case back are winners for me. I actually sold a 1861 to buy a 3861 sapphire sandwich sometime in the future. Has all the "vintage" cues with the modern movement and you can see it! Just my 2 cents.
Hi Brad I have an FOIS and are contemplating putting it on a bracelet. What bracelet did you use? Any recommendations (noting you have an Omega clasp). Really want a great fit on the endlinks/case and that's what's holding me back - views about this would be appreciated. I suppose if I cannot get great endlink fit then I will sell my FOIS. Regards Tim
Happy to offer advice. Email me at brad@brentlmiller.com
That sapphire 3861 will be my next purchase, for sure. Love my hesalite 1861, but personally prefer the scratch resistance, applied logo, and open caseback on the sapphire model.
I'm not saying the scratching is a huge deal on hesalite. It's admittedly pretty easy to buff out the scratches with Polywatch, but I do find myself wearing the watch less in certain situations because I know it's more likely to get scratched.
Gotta get to work on moving some of my current pieces and then I'll certainly hit you up for the new Speedy soon. (And possibly the Seamaster 300 🤷♂️)
They are all good ones Bob!
I purchased the sapphire.👏🇦🇺
Congrats, enjoy wearing it!
Hesalite. . I don’t want sapphire glass splinters in the cockpit in the event of a crystal impact!
I still can’t decide. I’m unsure about hesalite in real life
Hesalite
Hessalite and Forstener watch strap as per NASA astronauts choice
There are a lot expensive watches out there. Many of them are ugly. Only 2 watches deserve the name of world standard time pieces : The Omega Speedmaster and the Rolex Daydate. You don't need anything else.
Hesalit my choice , more tradition, looks better withought the ring, bracelet looks better (president bracelet rolex) more colectible, hesalit can be polish with toothpaste and can be change for 100 dolar or so , the sapfire has 2 treatments on bouth sides and the outside can be scratch and you have to change the saffire 200euro or more .The hesalit is not very scratcy so you don t have to be affraid but you have to take care a little bit
You have put a soft tpu film on hesalite and it's becomes scratch proof
Bracelet is actually an Omega original remake . 1967
The new one has lume on the chrono seconds hand.
Can someone confirm that the hesalite has a print omega logo on the crystal? I see that it has but I can't see it on the sapphire crystal
Just went visiting my dealer. The sapphire does not have this. But. But the sapphire has etched icon in the dial versus a printed one on the hesalite.
Yes it has on the hesalite.. it's beautiful
Sapphire sandwich! so I can stare at the 3861 all day 😁
Hesalite always
Sapphire without a doubt
I like the 1 on the left
Bro only the hessalite is the moonwatch. Tahts the big difference. You want the moonwatch, you go hessalite. Anything else is just an omega speedmaster variant.
Is the halo ring very prominent? or very visible?
IMO, only if you know what you are actually looking for. I don't think most would even notice.
@@brentmillertime8778 for sure its gonna bother me though. doing my research buying it soon. going for hesalite.
@@PyroClit We are always happy to assist when you are ready.
Sapphire 'halo' ring looks more prestigious
Hesalite on order.
It's a good one. Enjoy wearing wearing it when it comes in!
The hesalite version i like ; this watch was a tool ; not a bling bling...
Omega, please next ceramic bezel for the sapphire and aluminum one for the hesalite. Thanks.
Sapphire for me.....
sapphire
The ONLY reason I prefer the sapphire is due to the applied Omega symbol.
I own both but strongly prefer the look of the hesalite. 1. The light play, reflection and distortion gives a vintage feel, vs sapphire just looks plain and uninteresting. 2. The milky ring of the sapphire is just ugly, which breaks the continuity from the dial to the bezel. 3. Sapphire actually catches fingerprints and smudges way easier. 4. The applied modern Omega logo is uninteresting, if it’s the vintage logo I’d think again. 5. The only pro of sapphire is the case back, not a big deal because I rarely look at the movement. But I hope there could be aftermarket display case back in the future at least to give the option.
6. Bracelet on the hesalite is brushed and more vintage like and less flashy
I’m still not 100% on which one I’ll get although both are obviously gorgeous. I’d originally planned to go sapphire but, having looked a few times now, I don’t like the halo though I accept that this is very much a personal taste thing. Likewise the square shoulders and minimal dome to the sapphire also push me towards the hesalite.
Hesalite or its not really a moon watch
Sapphire.
Tapers to 15mm. Not 16.
Fuck it get the sapphire ! 🎉 Don't cheat yourself treat yourself !
Sapphire. How can you not have that view?
I have tried both and just couldn’t pull the trigger on the hexalite model. I can’t justify so much money and know that I don’t have a sapphire glass.
U know there are really cheap self healing soft TPU films for hesalite now.
Hesalite looka so much cooler not like jewelry also solid caseback is really classic.
@@Mega-zi7ysyes I know. I just don’t want to spend almost 8000€ for a watch that I need to worry about the glass or buy a cheap film. Even my Oris aquis gmt has a sapphire glass.
@@ricardomiguel3D it's not a cheap film...and why worry? It's meant to be worn
@@Mega-zi7ys sure. Why has the seamaster a sapphire glass? Isn’t it meant to be worn as well? I wear my watch everyday, looks good as new. No protective film, no polishing, nothing. It’s 2500€ Watch. If I’m goin go spend 3 times as much I expect at the very least the same experience as opposed to feeling that I just bought an almost 8000€ toy. I have tried the sapphire version and it just feels a lot better, but for that price it is too close to Rolex for me to consider that model from omega.
@@ricardomiguel3D because the original speedmaster professional Moonwatch was hesalite...got it?🙄
The hesalite dome looks so much nicer than the squarish corners of the sapphire too and the utilitarian look and feel of the hesalite is what the speedmaster professional is all about.
Btw better wrap your car in bubble wrap when you go out too it might get scratches it costs more than a watch 😄 i prefer Omega lately if same price as Rolex fyi. Omega speedmaster only though.
I would pick the speedmaster 321 over a Daytona they're similarly priced.
I love wearing the speedmaster professional than the Daytona any day.
I've got both brands, so not just being biased vs rolex.
Rolex is too loud nowadays
Like Louis Vuitton.
Hesalite, because it’s the actual moon watch. The sapphire isn’t up to NASA spec.
True if I ever will go to the moon…however on earth I want to protect my watch so sapphire is better
They aren’t Picaso’s, why wear gloves? Pretty sure stainless can last a few hundred years.
It's a lot more professional and, if they are not his watches, more respectful too. Wouldn't want to leave prints on a 8 minute long showcase.
It makes filming watches way easier. Without gloves you leave tons of smears that catch the light and you have to spend half the video wiping the watch off with a microfiber cloth. It’s just for convenience.
That milk ring is disgusting. HESALITE ALL THE WAY
7 k for the hezzy. lol. It was 4 k couple yrs back. They are trying to go Rolex. It ain’t gonna work
Hexa Who? Sapphire my Crystal and stop playing
I vote Sapphire because of the sapphire case back…..
…… I would be afraid that the silver colour on the other one would bleed onto my skin 😂
Hesalite dome just looks cooler & i hate gimmicky see through backs tacky as hell
Hesalite
Hesalite
Hesalite looks better is more authentic