It's probably worth stating that the Model 2 hardware was about $15000, and the Sega Saturn was $399. So I think the saturn actually puts up a pretty good fight here.
The important thing to remember is that us gamers in 1995 were comparing the Saturn to the SNES, Megadrive - NOT the arcade machines. Sure, I wished for the most accurate port possible, but just to have these 3D titles in the home was superb.
3do was the same generation as the Saturn and PS1. Need for Speed came out in 1994 before Daytona did for the Saturn. So it's an apt comparison. And gaming magazines trashed the Saturn version of Daytona, until Virtua Fighter Remix and the Lobotomy FPS games came out people believe that the 3do was the superior than the Saturn in 3d cause Daytona and Virtua Fighter were bad ports
+Frozen Retro ! for the time, it was really close, not shit at all, cause previous gen systems trying to recreate arcade were way less accurate. To me the real difference is the fps.
Well, had the Saturn's two video cards not shared the same memory bus, they could have done much more. But, they took out the idea of it in fear that developers would not know how to program with multi-core specs.
Another case of you had to be there. Daytona USA was a system seller for the Saturn. Of course it's like half as good as the arcade but it didn't matter back then. The arcade was like the future back then and no console port would ever be as good anyway.
No...... this was a huge deception..... everyone complained at that time...... they HAD to make a decent conversion but failed miserably and this sealed the fate of the saturn on the very beginning.
Umm... where is your evidence that "everyone complained"? It received good reviews in the gaming press and everyone I knew was happy to have a proper 3D arcade game in their home. I suspect you are either too young to remember, or just have a poor memory.
I played the Saturn port today for the first time since 1995, and I'm not surprised I liked it back then. To me the most important factor was that it played well and felt just like Daytona and that is still the case.
Yes, Saturn Daytona USA was rough around the edges, the resolution was lower, the polygons blockier, the frame rate stuck at 20fps...yet, despite it all, this is an excellent arcade translation. The tracks are fully present, all the details are still there, all 40 race cars are on the track, jostling and smashing into one another. The car handling, controls, and ability to suffer damage - all perfect. This game plays like a dream. And that was a real surprise, given the many compromises made to what was, essentially, a rushed-to-market launch title (the JP release was even more jittery; the US version was more smoothed out and is the Daytona to get). Add in the extra game modes, the computer AI (which is nasty on its hardest setting), the spectacular 20-car crashes, the bonus cars, and the horses, and you have a really great videogame. And, honestly, in all the years I've popped in Saturn Daytona at home, I've never heard a single person complain about the graphics. They're too busy having fun. Now to compare Saturn Daytona to the Japanese Circuit Edition...that's the real debate.
Circuit edition is another and diferent game. Daytone CCE lost the arcade impact fun. Its more beautifull using the Sega Rally system, but no more fun.
As a new Saturn collector I just got the game (JP system and version of the game) and I cant believe how rushed of a port it was. I was thinking of getting circuit edition since everyone said it had more content and fixed issues in the original... but is it worth getting if it's a completely different game?
danny boy, these kids will never understand, theyre too worried about how 58/60 FPS means the game is garbage, and how resolution is something they think they understand. Gaming in my eyes is dead because of these garbage "gamers/sheep". I have a name for them, theyre the "Madcodauto" type of gamers. The ones who think buying COD, Madden, and GTA, makes them hardcore gamers. We have forgotten more than theyll ever know and experience in the world of gaming
@@EliteGamersUnitedi have twelve and i dont think this shit i only mind if the game is freaking good. I grown up playing on 25 fps or above and i dont even mind,dont think for the graphics,dont think for the freaking framerate,think about the GAME.
Nicolas Sky I never had a Saturn and in 1995 I was barely playing on a first generation Sega Genesis that belonged to my father. It wasn't until 1998 my father bought us a Sony PlayStation. I believe the Saturn (although considered a failure by Sega and a commercial failure) was another underated home console from Sega. The biggest problem with the Saturn was it's architecture. The Saturn was a nightmare for programmers to develop games for which really hurt the Saturn at the time. The Sega Saturn and the Sony PlayStation were both released in 1995 and the Nintendo 64 was released a year later in 1996 which meant that the Sega Saturn was a failure almost right from it's launch. Because of its complex architecture no programmer wanted to fuck with the Saturn. So pretty much every developer said screw this thing we're gonna make our games for Sony and Nintendo. So pretty much the only company making games for the Saturn ended up being Sega themselves. Yeah Daytona USA for Saturn looks good for a 5th gen console. Certainly better than anything on the Sony PlayStation at that time or N64.
thank's god the Saturn architecture is a nightmare ! developers had to be creative, comptetent to develop on this machine, it's for what the library is globaly realy good. I prefere that than shit-games pretty but deeply empty like on Playstation.
dude, you dont know the deception that this horrible conversion was.... people were awaiting for a decent conversion and came this piece of trash...... the pop up made this game almost unplayable ....... i was an unhappy owner of saturn at the time and had to buy other games, like sega rally, wipeout and panzer dragoon 2 that were good games for saturn
Model 2 has magnificent power for 1993, and Daytona USA is looking stunning, even from late 90s... I cant belive that it really so beautiful and runs at 60 FPS. Incredible achievments, i have no words. Model 2 looks like a technical jump from 1993 like 8800GTX in 2006.
Daytona and virtua fighter were the reasons i bought a saturn, i loved that system had nearly every game for it back then too, brilliant system and the system that got me into digital movies because it was capable of playing movies via video cd with the mpeg card, those were the day's! Good days indeed.
The arcade version is better in every way - however, the Saturn version is perfectly respectable in every way. A very good port! Also, I have great memories of both versions! Great game!
It is a really good arcade conversation but I wonder why they made the cars thinner and the colours darker. I presume font sizes and brightness is adjusted for most common home TV size and set up vs arcade environment.
26 years later and i still enjoy playing the Saturn version, i still have my original copy of the game too! Although tbf, i still have my original Saturn and all my games too so....
I'm one of the Saturn's biggest cheerleaders, but Daytona USA honestly wasn't its finest hour. It was 100% capable of pulling off a nearly arcade-perfect version of this game, and while this one is very playable and fairly fun, it was a bit of a missed opportunity on the framerate and adding home-console-exclusive extras.
Oh come on Baron, the Saturn could never do anything close to Model2. Processor was nowhere near as powerful. Display resolution was much lower. Colour depth far lower. Geometry transformations and DSP geometry processing a lot lower. It couldn't do anti-aliasing, didn't have the bandwidth to do Z Buffering. The list is endless. Saturn lacked a lot of the hardware features contained within Model2. Daytona on the Saturn was rushed and could have been better but it was never going to be "a nearly arcade perfect version" of the game.
You can't open an entertainment center today, be it in a mall, playground, family restaurant, you name it, and not have multiplayer Daytona. That's how timeless is that game. The Saturn conversion was done under incredibly pressure and scrutiny and, for the most part, it passed the test. It helped position the system and, although it was criticized, everybody wanted it. The only thing that should've been fixed before release is the short draw distance. All other flaws are minor, in perspective
Besides Virtua Fighter Remix this was my first game for the Saturn console back in 1995 and I loved it. Although it's good I had no clue or comparison to the Arcade version, it's miles ahead of the console port, lol. In the Saturn version many times the cars dont seem standing/driving straight, lol.
Que coisa pavorosa essa versão do Segasatan... provavelmente foi lançado as pressas igual o Cruis'n USA. O modo que o carro faz a curva no Segasatan parece que flutua, o cenário sendo "construido" (No Arcade tambem tem disso, mas o Draw Distance é maior, não sei se é esse o nome) e outras bizarrices... Mas falando do jogo, mesmo sendo de 1993 seria o primeiro game que jogaria se eu entrasse em um estabelecimento de fliperamas.
+Hank Hulaid Well it may look rough around the edges, but the first version is actually more faithful to the arcade then Daytona CCE, be it graphically or gameplay-wise. I remember I was really disappointed when I got CCE back in 1996 because it just wasn't as fun as the first version.
Estava jogando Daytona CCE ontem mesmo. Sem duvidas o arcade e bem mais bonito, mas o jogo era bonito para a época. Uma coisa que não apareceu no video foina deformação do carro. Este jogo é um daqueles casos em que você estranha a jogabilidade da primeira jogada, insiste, reclama de o carro não poder tocar a grama(se tocar perde o controle) mas não para de jogar. os gráficos do Saturn envelheceram bem mal,mas recomendo conferir a versão CCE que vem com algumas melhorias em relação a esta. Os videos do canal estão cada dia melhores. Se continuar nesse ritmo de evolução em breve estará no mesmo nivel do gaming palooza Empire ou ate melhor.
Matthew Kelman while we are pointing out the obvious, the model 2 was the most advanced arcade cabinet and light years ahead of any competitor, it also cost $30,000.....the Saturn was $400
@@yanceyboyz i'll point out the obvious too by saying that the PS1 could handle a decent port of ridge racer, yet the saturn can't handle daytona. It's still a shittly made port, not worse hardware
Ridge Racer’s port had the advantage of being based on a game that was run on what was essentially PS1 hardware, so if that didn’t turn out near perfect something was seriously wrong.
@@64bitmodels66 Ridge racer had way less cars on the tracm, was on an easier to develop for console, on an arcade board based on that console, with a cheaper arcade game that looked far worse.
completely rushed port but an excellent game for the saturn! i love much the arcade but the saturn conversion was the first oportunity to play this game in your home
Sadly this conversion didn't win Saturn that all important first impression next to PS1's Ridge Racer. Although I find saturn Daytona a much better game despite the clipping.
People can say whatever they want about this conversion, for me, it was the best conversion of a coin op on a home machine. Sega Rally run smoother, true, but Sega Rally did not run 40 cars all together in same race... If you look the graphic and the details and the full coin op animations that Sega brought on Sega Saturn with Daytona Usa, there is enough to make that game a miracle of developing. Sega Saturn with Daytona Usa brought the entire atmosphere of the original coin op on a home machine, only one years later the release of the game on the "arcade rooms" ... Any other conversions of Daytona for console ( i'm not including the XBOX360 AND PS3 VERSIONS , BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CONVERSIONS BUT THEY ARE JUST EMULATION) , was sucks , even the Dreamcast conversion had nothing to share with the original game, so this version, was really the best work made by Sega
yep the saturn's version is under in term of graphism, draw distance, framerate, fps and everything, but Daytona USA on Satun do everything what Ridge Racer don't ....a perfect gameplay, fun, options, contains .... so congrat Sega
I played the Saturn version first back in the day when I got a Saturn so it’s still my favorite version. Yes I see it’s flaws, but the experience was so great regardless
To be fair, Daytona on the Saturn was always going to have limitations. I owned it and played it well. Yes, the colour scheme at times seems like everything's dimmed by a shadow (compared to the arcade version). The frame rate and clipping can at times make for a off putting port, but I actually liked the game. Oh, and the lower rez of the saturn was always going to affect the arcades' smooth and fluid movement in a game that is fast and often frantic. The thrill of having a 3D arcade game in your bedroom was the thing of dreams 3 decades ago :) And Daytona delivered this dream and made it a reality. Yes, the game is rough around the edges in places, but I reckon this gives Daytona on the Saturn it's charm - and at times adds to the realism where you actually feel like your in that car.
IF you take into comparison this (arcade) vs others, this is how it goes - Arcade vs Saturn - Arcade wins Arcade vs Dreamcast - Dreamcast due to the fact that it was more worked upon and it had more tracks (similar to Daytona USA 2 OTE/PE if I recall correctly) Arcade vs PS3 - tied as both are literally the same Arcade vs Xbox 360/Xbox One - tied as both are literally the same.
Sega would've been better using the Saturns sprite scaling etc to do a Mode 7 style conversion like Street Racer. Worked perfect for their fighting games etc to keep FPS smooth.
A versão do arcade ficou bem superior,mas a versão do Saturn da pra se divertir,eu gosto da versão Daytona usa edition pro Saturn essa ficou bem legal apesar do carro ter ficado um pouco pequeno.
Sure the saturn version looks bad compared to the arcade but if you know the history behind this, in actuality it is pretty impressive. i say that because Sega released this for the Saturn as incomplete. They rush released it meaning it could of looked better. Much better.
Model 2 pcbs used roms and so had direct access to data. It was not necessary to store lots of things at once in RAM like on a CD based console. Yes, the sat version suffered from MANY frames being cut. Pace is not fluid like the arcade version no way. Same reason why there's no Neo.Geo port for any CD based console (incl. NGCD) that shows every frame of animation of the cart version. Ram at the time was costly and we paid the price at the time...
What are people writing that the dedicated board and set up for one game where every component is created to create the best game, so making you want to part with more money, compares it to a home system that plugs in to a home TV from the 80s, which were never going to give arcade quality, and comes on a CD. Look at home computer game graphics now and to how they were in the 80's, Sega made a great home machine with, for the time, really great versions of arcade games to play in your home.
As far as the Saturn version goes it's highly playable, but damn that frame rate really takes away from the awesome arcade expirience, I mean not even 30fps...sad the home version was rushed, I recommend Daytona USA CE for anyone looking to get the Saturn version although the handling is kinda sketchy, but that one's better optimized at a solid 30fps, overall though the best version for the home is the downloadable PS3 version, but for a physical copy the Dreamcast is the best and even looks better than the arcade one
Conversão feita um pouco as pressas um pouco mais de tempo poderia polir um poucos os graficos e diminuir um pouco a construção dos poligonos ao fundo apesar que nunca chegaria aos pés da maquina ,pois 40 carros na pista não tinha hardware na época que aguentasse isso tudo sem perdas graficas.
A turma que nasceu em 2000 acha que foi preguiça ou pressa. Foi necessidade, era uma época de revolução nos gráficos (3d), tinha como planejar não, como fazem os críticos de passado.
A versão do Saturn esta consideravelmente inferior a do Arcade, mas, convenhamos, até a chegada do Dreamcast, nenhum console conseguia rodar um porte similar ao do Arcade. Os Arcades da SEGA eram muito a frente do seu tempo.
this is why i got a Sega Saturn and not a PlayStation I got it christens morning I think 95 with the wheel me and my family played this for years we would compete on time since there was no 2 player mode we played it all day at family get together then CE came out and it was better they changed the sound track and graffics we didn't like that one as much because it took away all the cool arcade stuff and it did look better but it just didn't feel right not a tight as this one and I couldn't get in to it because of the music was different I wish for CE that would have just made a better arcade port and not changed the look feel and sound
Why no one ever mentions the engine sound that gives you headaches and is not even remotely faithful to the arcade? For being a console with all those chips I expected a better sound...
![Daytona USA [Xbox 360] by SEGA [HD] [1080p60]](/img/1.gif)
It's probably worth stating that the Model 2 hardware was about $15000, and the Sega Saturn was $399. So I think the saturn actually puts up a pretty good fight here.
The important thing to remember is that us gamers in 1995 were comparing the Saturn to the SNES, Megadrive - NOT the arcade machines. Sure, I wished for the most accurate port possible, but just to have these 3D titles in the home was superb.
No. We were comparing it to Ridge Racer on the PlayStation and Need for Speed on the 3DO and whatever pipe dream we had of the N64
@@BurritoKingdom I think he meant before they came out on the west and the 3do was not like the 3 other consoles, so let's forget about it.
3do was the same generation as the Saturn and PS1. Need for Speed came out in 1994 before Daytona did for the Saturn. So it's an apt comparison. And gaming magazines trashed the Saturn version of Daytona, until Virtua Fighter Remix and the Lobotomy FPS games came out people believe that the 3do was the superior than the Saturn in 3d cause Daytona and Virtua Fighter were bad ports
@@BurritoKingdom until the remakes came out of course
No way a home console of that era could come close to Model 2.
Well,believe it!Cause' it's true.
+Frozen Retro ! for the time, it was really close, not shit at all, cause previous gen systems trying to recreate arcade were way less accurate. To me the real difference is the fps.
Frozen Retro !
i played too at home and i was delighted, just a point of view on expectations, yours were higher.
Dreamcast..
Well, had the Saturn's two video cards not shared the same memory bus, they could have done much more. But, they took out the idea of it in fear that developers would not know how to program with multi-core specs.
This version on Saturn got the handling right. Circuit Edition never feels quite right.
Another case of you had to be there. Daytona USA was a system seller for the Saturn. Of course it's like half as good as the arcade but it didn't matter back then. The arcade was like the future back then and no console port would ever be as good anyway.
right
Well said!
No...... this was a huge deception..... everyone complained at that time...... they HAD to make a decent conversion but failed miserably and this sealed the fate of the saturn on the very beginning.
Umm... where is your evidence that "everyone complained"? It received good reviews in the gaming press and everyone I knew was happy to have a proper 3D arcade game in their home. I suspect you are either too young to remember, or just have a poor memory.
They had both good reviews, you have a bad memory ....
Without any doubt my favorite 3D arcade racing game!!
I f****** ♥ Daytona USA!!
Me too!
Me too! But they removed it from the arcade to dead heat. :( but I like dead heat too
iPlaySEGA!! I prefer Ridge Racer.... ;3
Me too
I played the Saturn port today for the first time since 1995, and I'm not surprised I liked it back then. To me the most important factor was that it played well and felt just like Daytona and that is still the case.
I think before 1998-99, when Dreamcast and Voodoo 3 has released - no one Hardware in the world can close match a Model 2 srandarts.
Voodoo 2 could have done it in 1997.
Yes, Saturn Daytona USA was rough around the edges, the resolution was lower, the polygons blockier, the frame rate stuck at 20fps...yet, despite it all, this is an excellent arcade translation. The tracks are fully present, all the details are still there, all 40 race cars are on the track, jostling and smashing into one another. The car handling, controls, and ability to suffer damage - all perfect. This game plays like a dream. And that was a real surprise, given the many compromises made to what was, essentially, a rushed-to-market launch title (the JP release was even more jittery; the US version was more smoothed out and is the Daytona to get). Add in the extra game modes, the computer AI (which is nasty on its hardest setting), the spectacular 20-car crashes, the bonus cars, and the horses, and you have a really great videogame. And, honestly, in all the years I've popped in Saturn Daytona at home, I've never heard a single person complain about the graphics. They're too busy having fun. Now to compare Saturn Daytona to the Japanese Circuit Edition...that's the real debate.
Circuit edition is another and diferent game. Daytone CCE lost the arcade impact fun. Its more beautifull using the Sega Rally system, but no more fun.
As a new Saturn collector I just got the game (JP system and version of the game) and I cant believe how rushed of a port it was. I was thinking of getting circuit edition since everyone said it had more content and fixed issues in the original... but is it worth getting if it's a completely different game?
@@tvescolinha sega rally is amazing, but not with daytona USA style.
danny boy, these kids will never understand, theyre too worried about how 58/60 FPS means the game is garbage, and how resolution is something they think they understand. Gaming in my eyes is dead because of these garbage "gamers/sheep".
I have a name for them, theyre the "Madcodauto" type of gamers. The ones who think buying COD, Madden, and GTA, makes them hardcore gamers. We have forgotten more than theyll ever know and experience in the world of gaming
@@EliteGamersUnitedi have twelve and i dont think this shit i only mind if the game is freaking good.
I grown up playing on 25 fps or above and i dont even mind,dont think for the graphics,dont think for the freaking framerate,think about the GAME.
The Saturn port not is perfect, but is a very good racing game. Saturn rocks!
I don't like Saturn version I like arcade
I don't like Saturn version I like arcade
Nicolas Sky I never had a Saturn and in 1995 I was barely playing on a first generation Sega Genesis that belonged to my father. It wasn't until 1998 my father bought us a Sony PlayStation. I believe the Saturn (although considered a failure by Sega and a commercial failure) was another underated home console from Sega. The biggest problem with the Saturn was it's architecture. The Saturn was a nightmare for programmers to develop games for which really hurt the Saturn at the time. The Sega Saturn and the Sony PlayStation were both released in 1995 and the Nintendo 64 was released a year later in 1996 which meant that the Sega Saturn was a failure almost right from it's launch. Because of its complex architecture no programmer wanted to fuck with the Saturn. So pretty much every developer said screw this thing we're gonna make our games for Sony and Nintendo. So pretty much the only company making games for the Saturn ended up being Sega themselves. Yeah Daytona USA for Saturn looks good for a 5th gen console. Certainly better than anything on the Sony PlayStation at that time or N64.
thank's god the Saturn architecture is a nightmare ! developers had to be creative, comptetent to develop on this machine, it's for what the library is globaly realy good. I prefere that than shit-games pretty but deeply empty like on Playstation.
dude, you dont know the deception that this horrible conversion was.... people were awaiting for a decent conversion and came this piece of trash...... the pop up made this game almost unplayable ....... i was an unhappy owner of saturn at the time and had to buy other games, like sega rally, wipeout and panzer dragoon 2 that were good games for saturn
Se tivesse pra playstation 3 comprava na hora jogaço muito bom jogava muito nos shoppings é demais
Tem para ps3
Model 2 has magnificent power for 1993, and Daytona USA is looking stunning, even from late 90s... I cant belive that it really so beautiful and runs at 60 FPS. Incredible achievments, i have no words. Model 2 looks like a technical jump from 1993 like 8800GTX in 2006.
Being able to play this game at home during that time was ground breaking.
The Saturn version is like: Turok Racing.
Wtf? That thing exists?
Of course not XD.
DAYYYTONNAAAAAAAAA
remember listening to that when I entered any arcade in the 90s
fucking memories!!!!!
Yo what's up youtuners I just came by to tell ya'll that... SEGA IS RELEASING DAYTONA USA 3 TO THE ARCADE!!!!!!!!!!!
its a shame it sucked
Daytona and virtua fighter were the reasons i bought a saturn, i loved that system had nearly every game for it back then too, brilliant system and the system that got me into digital movies because it was capable of playing movies via video cd with the mpeg card, those were the day's! Good days indeed.
Primeiro game que joguei na geração 32bits, ouvir essa música da uma nostalgia
Just can not seem to beat Model 2! lol
The arcade version is better in every way - however, the Saturn version is perfectly respectable in every way. A very good port! Also, I have great memories of both versions! Great game!
It is a really good arcade conversation but I wonder why they made the cars thinner and the colours darker. I presume font sizes and brightness is adjusted for most common home TV size and set up vs arcade environment.
Sega Saturn did a great job bringing this home. Would of been kool if Sega would of released it for the 32X.
I think if we had a 32X version it would look like a Virtua Racing mod
Lol it’d be a funny retrospective
26 years later and i still enjoy playing the Saturn version, i still have my original copy of the game too! Although tbf, i still have my original Saturn and all my games too so....
God imagine this demo song playing and playing again and again I'll go crazy
Wow! There was pop up in the Arcade version? I don't remember that!
I'm one of the Saturn's biggest cheerleaders, but Daytona USA honestly wasn't its finest hour. It was 100% capable of pulling off a nearly arcade-perfect version of this game, and while this one is very playable and fairly fun, it was a bit of a missed opportunity on the framerate and adding home-console-exclusive extras.
Oh come on Baron, the Saturn could never do anything close to Model2. Processor was nowhere near as powerful. Display resolution was much lower. Colour depth far lower. Geometry transformations and DSP geometry processing a lot lower.
It couldn't do anti-aliasing, didn't have the bandwidth to do Z Buffering. The list is endless. Saturn lacked a lot of the hardware features contained within Model2.
Daytona on the Saturn was rushed and could have been better but it was never going to be "a nearly arcade perfect version" of the game.
You can't open an entertainment center today, be it in a mall, playground, family restaurant, you name it, and not have multiplayer Daytona. That's how timeless is that game. The Saturn conversion was done under incredibly pressure and scrutiny and, for the most part, it passed the test. It helped position the system and, although it was criticized, everybody wanted it. The only thing that should've been fixed before release is the short draw distance. All other flaws are minor, in perspective
great comparison here!
how about a comparison of Daytona (Arcade) Vs Daytona CCE (Saturn)
aguardando comparativos do Dead or alive ,Virtua fighter 2 , Fighter Viper e Last Bronx Model 2 vs saturn!!
Saturn version its great. Lot of fun and all the arcade feeling.
Besides Virtua Fighter Remix this was my first game for the Saturn console back in 1995 and I loved it. Although it's good I had no clue or comparison to the Arcade version, it's miles ahead of the console port, lol. In the Saturn version many times the cars dont seem standing/driving straight, lol.
Que coisa pavorosa essa versão do Segasatan... provavelmente foi lançado as pressas igual o Cruis'n USA. O modo que o carro faz a curva no Segasatan parece que flutua, o cenário sendo "construido" (No Arcade tambem tem disso, mas o Draw Distance é maior, não sei se é esse o nome) e outras bizarrices...
Mas falando do jogo, mesmo sendo de 1993 seria o primeiro game que jogaria se eu entrasse em um estabelecimento de fliperamas.
I remember this in Playdium with the full four player cars. I was such an ass and used the secret code on the 4 keys to unsuspecting opponents lol.
The graphics in the Saturn version always remind me of Driver on the PS1.
No way Driver on PS1 look way better than the Saturn port of Daytona.
I agree, Driver has better graphics. I was referring more to how the far away polygons suddenly pop up out of nowhere. Driver 2 also had this.
Oh okay cause Sega Saturn/PC Daytona look like the first season of South Park.
I loved this so much when it came out on Saturn and thought it was arcade-perfect when I was playing it back in '95... I was wrong... lol.
+ronjon83
Might not be perfect, but its pretty damn good for the time. Never played the Saturn version, but it looks fun just like the Arcade version.
+Hank Hulaid Well it may look rough around the edges, but the first version is actually more faithful to the arcade then Daytona CCE, be it graphically or gameplay-wise. I remember I was really disappointed when I got CCE back in 1996 because it just wasn't as fun as the first version.
Agree I thought it looked amazing when it came out.
@@iiiiii1449
Y se veía increíble en 1995.
Ten en cuenta que el sega model 2 costaba más de $15.000
Estava jogando Daytona CCE ontem mesmo. Sem duvidas o arcade e bem mais bonito, mas o jogo era bonito para a época. Uma coisa que não apareceu no video foina deformação do carro. Este jogo é um daqueles casos em que você estranha a jogabilidade da primeira jogada, insiste, reclama de o carro não poder tocar a grama(se tocar perde o controle) mas não para de jogar. os gráficos do Saturn envelheceram bem mal,mas recomendo conferir a versão CCE que vem com algumas melhorias em relação a esta. Os videos do canal estão cada dia melhores. Se continuar nesse ritmo de evolução em breve estará no mesmo nivel do gaming palooza Empire ou ate melhor.
É verdade
Daytona usa arcade was away of it's time. Really impressive!!! still looks awesome nowadays, I always loved it's textures.
A versão do Arcade é sem dúvida melhor, porém a versão do Saturn é muito legal e pra época lá divertia e diverte até hj!
The Saturn version runs at around 20 frames per second and has lower draw distance while the Arcade version runs at 60 frames per second.
Matthew Kelman while we are pointing out the obvious, the model 2 was the most advanced arcade cabinet and light years ahead of any competitor, it also cost $30,000.....the Saturn was $400
@@yanceyboyz i'll point out the obvious too by saying that the PS1 could handle a decent port of ridge racer, yet the saturn can't handle daytona. It's still a shittly made port, not worse hardware
Ridge Racer’s port had the advantage of being based on a game that was run on what was essentially PS1 hardware, so if that didn’t turn out near perfect something was seriously wrong.
@@64bitmodels66 Ridge racer had way less cars on the tracm, was on an easier to develop for console, on an arcade board based on that console, with a cheaper arcade game that looked far worse.
completely rushed port but an excellent game for the saturn! i love much the arcade but the saturn conversion was the first oportunity to play this game in your home
Sadly this conversion didn't win Saturn that all important first impression next to PS1's Ridge Racer. Although I find saturn Daytona a much better game despite the clipping.
yea I played this a 100 more times then ridge racer
+Maxi Ascanity I love that sweet music
Saturn version is super fun still. I have it to this day. Back in the day I didn't even think about the crappy graphics
People can say whatever they want about this conversion, for me, it was the best conversion of a coin op on a home machine.
Sega Rally run smoother, true, but Sega Rally did not run 40 cars all together in same race...
If you look the graphic and the details and the full coin op animations that Sega brought on Sega Saturn with Daytona Usa, there is enough to make that game a miracle of developing.
Sega Saturn with Daytona Usa brought the entire atmosphere of the original coin op on a home machine, only one years later the release of the game on the "arcade rooms" ... Any other conversions of Daytona for console ( i'm not including the XBOX360 AND PS3 VERSIONS , BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CONVERSIONS BUT THEY ARE JUST EMULATION) , was sucks , even the Dreamcast conversion had nothing to share with the original game, so this version, was really the best work made by Sega
yep the saturn's version is under in term of graphism, draw distance, framerate, fps and everything, but Daytona USA on Satun do everything what Ridge Racer don't ....a perfect gameplay, fun, options, contains .... so congrat Sega
Seria legal poder ver a versão original e a Circuit Edition lado a lado.
Best arcade ever!
arcade better graphics and fluid gameplay but saturn has better music and new game mode
same right
Definitely will always prefer the ARC over the SAT...
Yeah, me too man
The Saturn was so powerful. But the arcade definitely wins. The arcade version was brighter and crispier than it's Saturn counter part.
Jeeeeez model 2 was like 5 years ahead of its time.
I played the Saturn version first back in the day when I got a Saturn so it’s still my favorite version. Yes I see it’s flaws, but the experience was so great regardless
If you watch this in 480p 30 frames per second both versions look extremely close. 😉
It reminds me of something from that song
The audio is slower on the Sega Saturn version
A Versão do arcade é um pouco melhor mais nos anos 90 ter um Saturno em casa era quase ter um Arcade era a alegria de poucos Brasileiros !
The Saturn version while kinda of bad, is still completely playable, and that is one game I plan on getting for my Sega Saturn hopefully next month
I played the dear life out of the Saturn version.
as duas versoes sao fodas, mas a de arcade eh mais fluida, se eu nao me engano teve uma versao de dreamcast tbm bonitona rodando a 60 fps
To be fair, Daytona on the Saturn was always going to have limitations. I owned it and played it well. Yes, the colour scheme at times seems like everything's dimmed by a shadow (compared to the arcade version). The frame rate and clipping can at times make for a off putting port, but I actually liked the game. Oh, and the lower rez of the saturn was always going to affect the arcades' smooth and fluid movement in a game that is fast and often frantic.
The thrill of having a 3D arcade game in your bedroom was the thing of dreams 3 decades ago :) And Daytona delivered this dream and made it a reality. Yes, the game is rough around the edges in places, but I reckon this gives Daytona on the Saturn it's charm - and at times adds to the realism where you actually feel like your in that car.
With higher resolution graphics and better draw distance, the arcade version is the best
Amazing port on Saturn
Very good game and memories
IF you take into comparison this (arcade) vs others, this is how it goes -
Arcade vs Saturn - Arcade wins
Arcade vs Dreamcast - Dreamcast due to the fact that it was more worked upon and it had more tracks (similar to Daytona USA 2 OTE/PE if I recall correctly)
Arcade vs PS3 - tied as both are literally the same
Arcade vs Xbox 360/Xbox One - tied as both are literally the same.
Sega would've been better using the Saturns sprite scaling etc to do a Mode 7 style conversion like Street Racer. Worked perfect for their fighting games etc to keep FPS smooth.
That sound!
This game looked so impressive in the Arcade.
Same thing.
Same goes the Xbox Live Arcade.
I remember being so utterly disapointed when the saturn was released. I thought the home console was going to be exactly like the arcade.
Best Arcade racing game ever !
A versão do arcade ficou bem superior,mas a versão do Saturn da pra se divertir,eu gosto da versão Daytona usa edition pro Saturn essa ficou bem legal apesar do carro ter ficado um pouco pequeno.
Sure the saturn version looks bad compared to the arcade but if you know the history behind this, in actuality it is pretty impressive. i say that because Sega released this for the Saturn as incomplete. They rush released it meaning it could of looked better. Much better.
It almost looked similar I do think it was a good port
pretty good for a saturn.
Model 2 pcbs used roms and so had direct access to data. It was not necessary to store lots of things at once in RAM like on a CD based console. Yes, the sat version suffered from MANY frames being cut. Pace is not fluid like the arcade version no way. Same reason why there's no Neo.Geo port for any CD based console (incl. NGCD) that shows every frame of animation of the cart version. Ram at the time was costly and we paid the price at the time...
What are people writing that the dedicated board and set up for one game where every component is created to create the best game, so making you want to part with more money, compares it to a home system that plugs in to a home TV from the 80s, which were never going to give arcade quality, and comes on a CD. Look at home computer game graphics now and to how they were in the 80's, Sega made a great home machine with, for the time, really great versions of arcade games to play in your home.
but the sega saturn has a better sound the model 2
BEST SEGA ARCADE
NEXT OUT RUN 2 ARCADE VS XBOX360
I personally like this although the press back then criticized Daytona too much.They sent people to Ridge Racer and Ps1.
At least is fun and it has a god like soundtrack. Mitsuyoshi the GOAT
As far as the Saturn version goes it's highly playable, but damn that frame rate really takes away from the awesome arcade expirience, I mean not even 30fps...sad the home version was rushed, I recommend Daytona USA CE for anyone looking to get the Saturn version although the handling is kinda sketchy, but that one's better optimized at a solid 30fps, overall though the best version for the home is the downloadable PS3 version, but for a physical copy the Dreamcast is the best and even looks better than the arcade one
Adoro a versao do saturn mesmo se os gráficos são horríveis.
O que importa é a jogabilidade
É verdade
Best version is the XBox360 HD rerelease on XBL :-)
THE RGB OUT AT 60HZ CHANNEL - The Kaylied Gamer Its because it came late.
Frank Crisostomo Yeah - still the best version - shame it had to take over 16 years to get a game better than the 1994 arcade version lol
THE RGB OUT AT 60HZ CHANNEL - The Kaylied Gamer Indeed
Of course the 3D rendering is better than the console port.
On the saturn the colours are slightly more saturated.
Conversão feita um pouco as pressas um pouco mais de tempo poderia polir um poucos os graficos e diminuir um pouco a construção dos poligonos ao fundo apesar que nunca chegaria aos pés da maquina ,pois 40 carros na pista não tinha hardware na época que aguentasse isso tudo sem perdas graficas.
A turma que nasceu em 2000 acha que foi preguiça ou pressa. Foi necessidade, era uma época de revolução nos gráficos (3d), tinha como planejar não, como fazem os críticos de passado.
They could have at least made the Saturn version car move around faster rather then looking like it’s going over speed bumps
why cant they have daytona usa on ps4, or atleast daytona usa 3
A versão do Sega Saturn é triste demais, aloc!
iirc, the arcade version ran at 60 fps while the saturn ran at a cinematic 24 fps
It actually runs at a steady locked 20 FPS.
Aayan L looks really cool at 20fps but i'm still prefer the 60fps of arcade version. Good port for saturn
the arcade version is way better it's smoother with better frame rate and more solid graphics
Nossa, a versão de Arcade(Model 2) roda a 60 FPS, Saturn parece entre 30 e 45 FPS pelos skips constantes.
When you look at ridge racer on ps1 then look at this ...it sums up the saturn i would even go on to say ridge racer on ps1 beats Daytona on arcade.
A versão do Saturn esta consideravelmente inferior a do Arcade, mas, convenhamos, até a chegada do Dreamcast, nenhum console conseguia rodar um porte similar ao do Arcade. Os Arcades da SEGA eram muito a frente do seu tempo.
Eu queria que tivesse saido um port pro ps2,ele concerteza rodaria de boa o game sem downgrades
It's difficult to get a 1st position
this is why i got a Sega Saturn and not a PlayStation I got it christens morning I think 95 with the wheel me and my family played this for years we would compete on time since there was no 2 player mode we played it all day at family get together then CE came out and it was better they changed the sound track and graffics we didn't like that one as much because it took away all the cool arcade stuff and it did look better but it just didn't feel right not a tight as this one and I couldn't get in to it because of the music was different I wish for CE that would have just made a better arcade port and not changed the look feel and sound
I tell you this. Even with the Saturn 15fps it played exactly like the arcade. Slide-Show-naaaaaaaa is gonna win...... Tu tu tu
Why no one ever mentions the engine sound that gives you headaches and is not even remotely faithful to the arcade?
For being a console with all those chips I expected a better sound...
Nice try, I guess. Not to fear, the Dreamcast would have an *excellent* port of Daytona!
Arcade in the 90s beat any console back then but now since arcades barely exist anymore the console wins