@@leogets2006 Ridge Racer drifting feels more "automatic". Like the car enter in drift mode in RR, while in Sega Rally feels more natural to me. A better integration of. I like both but SR is way more fun imho
It's remarkable just how faithful the Saturn port of Sega Rally is compared to the arcade original. Even more so when you consider how much more powerful the Model 2 arcade board was over the Saturn's internal hardware. I played this game to death on Saturn. Easily one of the most playable home console racers to this day. The handling of the cars was just perfect. The Saturn port remains the best home version of Sega Rally for me.
Same here brow ... I bought the Saturn because of the Sega arcades , I was nuts for them .. and when it came bundled with a demo disc which had the second track to play time attack as u want , I just got nuts about it! A few months latter I bought the full version and loved it even more, me and my dad plays it to death this game! What a sound track ! The handling ... everything in this game is just great! I love it to this day!
I'd say it's because they messed up Daytona so bad, that they poured a lot more effort into Sega Rally to avoid both their arcade driving hits going to shit.
Even though I never played or heard about this game when I was little and only first played it a few months ago, there is something nostalgic about it for me...
$400 at launch.....still plays amazingly well today and better than the port of Sega Rally 2 to Dreamcast.....I’d say that’s close for the hardware it ran on. 😌
the sega saturn version looks insane close. for a home port at that time, it looks really good. i think the rocking soundtrack on the saturn kinda makes up for the graphical loss ''that little''. the arcade version still looks gorgeous but so does the sega saturn version. the saturn version just oozes sega saturn graphic style, these games made me prefer a saturn over the psx.
Being a teenager at the time I remember reading how SEGA were making “good” with their second gen ports from their launch titles . SEGA Rally, VF2, Manx TT, Virtua Cop, House Of The Dead.... those first launch games sure did do some damage!
Bedtime Stories So true, when you think of the likes Daytona, Sega Rally & Virtua Fighter 2 and compare them to Ridge Racer and Tekken 2, although i love all these games the gulf is clear to see!
Sega weren't far ahead, Namco chose to base Tekken 2 on Playstation 1 technology to save money. They knew it was inferior to Model 2. Ridge Racer System 22 is very similar in power to Sega Model 2
@@alexojideagu Are you high? Model 2 pissed all over System 22. Look at Sega Rally compared to Ridge Racer 2. Or Virtua Fighter 2 compared to Tekken 2. The difference is night and day.
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel Tekken 2 is not System 22, Tekken 2 runs on PS1 arcade hardware, and was never intended to compete with Model 2. System 22 is 1 year older than Model 2 and very comparable in power.
@@alexojideagu Fair enough about Tekken 2. But that doesn't change the fact that games on System 22 generally look shit compared to games running on Model 2. I wouldn't say they were "comparable" in terms of power. Model 2 was obviously a lot better. Especially as System 22 was two years behind.
What amazes me about this port is that despite the limitations of the Saturn, nothing is really missing here. (OK transparency on the windows, but that's minor) The resolution is lower and it runs at a locked 30fps but other than that this is a damn fine port. They even added textures to some things that the arcade is missing. Like the flags lining the start line. The draw distance is pretty close to what the arcade was too. Close enough to not be all that noticeable really. The road textures take a hit, but obviously some concessions had to be made here. A lot of love was put into this and it really shows.
Simplesmente a melhor conversão de um jogo de corrida de hardwares diferentes da geração 32bits, cada detalhe foi portanto pro saturno mesmo com toda desvantagem poligonal diante da model 2,e a trilha sonora melhorada arregaça a da versão arcade lindo port
saturn version has a lower resolution (more noticeable on the car), lacks polygon transparency (see car window), and more pop ups. That said, its a really good port and keeps up to the much more powerful arcade version very well. I owned the real version and it runs silky smooth at 60fps.
Games list of Saturn that runs at 60 fps: All-Japan Pro Wrestling featuring Virtua (1997) Clockwork Knight: Pepperouchau's Adventure (1994) (Characters are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay) Clockwork Knight 2 (1995) (Characters are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay) Dead or Alive (1997) DecAthlete (1996) Digital Dance Mix Vol. 1: Namie Amuro (1997) Fighters Megamix (1996) Fighting Vipers (1996) Guardian Heroes (1996) (Seems to be using 3D floors) Goiken Muyou: Anarchy in the Nippon (1997) J.League Go Go Goal! (1997) Jonah Lomu Rugby (1997) (The players are 2D sprites but the rest is 3D at solid 50 fps - European-only release so it's limited to 50 fps) Last Bronx (1997) Layer Section II (1997) (60 fps but with some heavy slowdown at times) Mass Destruction (1997) Panzer Dragoon II Zwei (1996) (Only cutscenes are 60 fps but they're rendered in real time) Radiant Silvergun (1998) (Some characters and items are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay) Savaki (1998) Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru (1997) (Several backgrounds and some platforms are 3D) Skeleton Warriors (1996) (Characters and several items are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay) Stellar Assault SS (1998) (In interlaced mode the image is blurred but the objects are moving 60 times per second with their "ghosts" being cleared only in the next frame) Street Racer Extra (1996) Striker '96 (1996) (The players are 2D sprites but the rest is 3D at solid 60 fps) Tempest 2000 (1996) Terra Cresta 3D (1997) Thunder Force V (1997) (Enemies and some background objects are 3D) Virtua Fighter 2 (1995) Virtua Fighter Kids (1996) Zero Divide: The Final Conflict (1997)
weren't those windows in the arcade version ditthered?. i remember liking the effect but also remember them as tiny little pixels that gave that mirroring effect.
melhor jogo de corrida do Saturn, disparado, e um dos melhores dessa geração. melhor jogabilidade de jogo de corrida que já joguei até hoje. quem apenas olha as imagens e compara os gráficos não tem noção de quão boa é essa conversão. e as versões instrumentais das musicas do Arcade destroem também.
If only Saturn kept up this standard back in the day. Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, Panzer Dragoon 2 and others around the time proved the console could be awesome.
alex ojideagu Oh yes, I remember. It's not 60fps and it has clipping. Back then, just as they should now, developers should ask gamers what they actually want.
bizarroeddie1 You're right there. Sadly Sega couldn't bridge the gap between arcades and home ports as well as the PS1. And that's coming from a Saturn fanboy.
stufaman Tekken Arcade for example uses a PS1 board with some extra power. While there's a massive power gap between Model 2 (the most powerful gaming hardware at the time) and Sega Saturn hardware. Virtua Fighter 2 and Sega Rally were great ports. Each arcade cabinet with model 2 costs $15000 to buy at the time, while the Saturn was like a $400 console. So overall impressive ports.
É uma conversão muito boa em termos de gráficos e som. Quase perfeita. Mas a verdadeira estrela é a jogabilidade - aí sim uma conversão perfeita dos jogo arcade para o controle do Saturn. É espetacular.
I remember there was a demo disk in UK on the official Sega Saturn magazine just before Xmas, best Xmas present EVER!. I’m surprised I didn’t wear the disk out.
Sega Rally was the game i bought along with my Saturn, i can remember setting the Saturn up for the 1st time and playing this amazing game, it just blew my mind!
Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, and Daytona Remix on the Saturn were amazingly close to the arcade versions. If Sega could have maintained that level of quality all the time by making the hardware easier to program for developers, Saturn would have easily won that hardware generation.
@@dxtremecaliber The entire reason Sony had superior third-party support that generation was because the PS1 hardware was easy to develop software for. In comparison, the Saturn was rushed to market and very difficult to develop software for as a result of the parallel processing.
Both versions were made at the same time! Both were from the same Director SEGA RALLY and Ridge Racer on PS Both are fantastic and fun to play to this day! ⭐️ ❤️ ⭐️
Man, Saturn got a brilliant port of this game. Mind you, I think Sega did a pretty damn good job with nearly all of its Model 2 to Saturn ports (especially Virtua Fighter 2). Even original Daytona USA is pretty good (Daytona: CCE, although prettier and with more stuff, really screws with the handling), despite being 20fps and having a lowish draw distance.
It's sad there was no challenge mode or a console championship with reverse track and a few random events (avoid cones in this section etc...). Those are always a good addition.
Está aí um dos melhores jogos do saturn. Apesar do port inferior por motivos óbvios, na época não tinha quem não ficasse boquiaberto com ele!! Diversão garantida!!!!
O carro da versão arcade está um pouco maior e não tem construção de tela o sega Saturno fez um ótimo Port esses detalhes não atrapalha em nada o game do sega Saturno que ficou ótimo a limitação técnica do sega Saturno quase não se percebe nota 10 para sega
I remember when this game came out it was part of what Sega was calling one of the big 3, there was Sega rally, virtua figher 2 and virtua cop all 3 games were so close to the arcade it was unbelievable, I was a hardcore Saturn fan back then and super proud my machine was pumping out graphics like this after being battered by playstion fan boys, if there was one thing that Saturn had was a library of quality titles it's a shame it wasnt the success it was ment to be only in later years now as a retro machine has it gained serious value and considered a gem amongst collectors, while the ps1 is worth nothing as everyone has those lying around, in my book the Saturn won by playing the long game because it's become like the snes a classic.
Fiquei impressionado com essa conversão! Eu não fazia ideia como a equipe que converteu a versão de arcade de Sega rally mantendo praticamente todos os detalhes vistos na model 2 mesmo reduzindo o número de polígonos e a taxa de fps , a versão do sega saturn ficou incrível!
Versão Arcade mais bonita claro, mas em Sega Rally o destaque é a jogabilidade. E isso foi mantido no port. Excepcional game de corrida, só podia ser da Sega em sua melhor fase...
It goes without saying. Model boards (doesn't matter which one) were top of the line, most expensive and most advanced hardware of their time. Boards that were, we could say... especially custom-crafted for high end arcade experiences. They were a dream back then, and they still are. Because some of their games haven't got a decent port yet, and probably never will. Not to mention the complex logistics and excessive amount of money you needed to buy one arcade machine back then, and even more so now. All that said... Sega Saturn's Sega Rally was and still is OUTSTANDING. Feels like the arcade, and to my 12 year old self... it looked just like the arcade, heck anything on the Sega Saturn was a dream come true, even some sub-par ports like the first Virtua Fighter or the original blocky-no-field-of-view Daytona's port. Also the 30 fps downgrade, low res textures and grainy graphics of Saturn's Sega Rally were just circumstancial and a product of their time as a game from the very first years of an extremely complicated hardware to program for. I'm pretty sure that with an extended time of development they would achieved 60fps.
Of course the arcade version wins, due to the more powerful hardware. But you gotta appreciate how close to "arcade perfect" the Saturn version came. Sega did an amazing job with it. (Now imagine if that had put the same effort into a Saturn version of Scud Racer) Edit: Why wasn't the extra stage included???
Both versions play amazingly. The Arcade is clear winner on graphics but then given that model 2 hardware cost more than a real car back in the day that's unsurprising. If anything it's amazing how good they managed to get it to look on the Saturn and even more amazing it runs at a silky smooth 60fps.
A velocidade com que o Arcade rodava o jogo e com aqueles gráficos inovadores para a época deixava qualquer um impressionado! Eu babava na frente dos fliperamas!
Christian Palmer so true. The same happened with Tomb Raiders 4 and 5 on DC with terrible framerates, bad graphics for a 128-bit console and long loading times...
Seems like the arcade view is from a slightly different angle and I like it much better. I had this on Saturn back in the day but never actually saw it in the arcade.
The differences are noticeable. Look at the Skybox on the Saturn version. It’s a straight up pre rendered image that just sort of floats in the background. The pop in is definitely noticeable. The poly count is noticeably reduced and the frame rate cut in half. But with all that said, it holds up surprisingly well. Considering the model 2 was so far ahead of everything at that time and the Saturn was drastically underpowered by comparison, it’s still a damn good port job that captures the game completely with a few cut backs. The frame rate is solid and rarely seems to dip unlike the early Daytona USA port. The sense of speed is still there. The handling is still there. The pop in is drastically improved over the early Daytona USA port. AM2 really did get to know the Saturn hardware better than anyone else and I think they consistently got the best results out of it.
LGD Retrogamer LGD Retrogamer só não foi melhor que o milagre operado no Virtua fighter 2 que roda na resolução máxima dos 32 bits( 720x 525 resolução nunca alcançada no PSX) inclusive mais alta que a do próprio arcade.
Sega Rally in the arcade was a revelation almost on the level of Daytona USA for me. In some ways, I liked Sega Rally better because the handling was more realistic and easier to master. The power sliding just felt right, unlike a lot of arcade racers which made a habit of turning cars to ridiculous angles. The Saturn version is a very good port. That said, this port goes to show that the promise of arcade-quality graphics wasn't quite there, at least when comparing Model 2 games to Saturn conversions. It's a little odd that the Saturn architecture strayed so far from Sega's arcade hardware at the time, although the Model stuff was really expensive and not likely to have translated to a home console easily at anything close to a reasonable price. Games like Virtua Fighter 2 got impressively close, but Sega Rally is just so smooth, sharp, and fast. The Saturn port gets amazingly close, but is still a little rough. Having the choice today, since the Saturn version doesn't really add anything to the arcade game, I'll play the Model 2 version every time. But for 1995, the Saturn port was a great game to have and play. It's really impressive when you think about how close they managed to get it that early on in the console's life. WAY better than the Daytona USA port.
Other than resolution and draw distance, this is as close to an arcade perfect port that I've seen on older consoles. This is way better than Daytona USA's console port.
Sega model 2 arcade cambine was a technology beast the period came out Sega rally. Sega saturn port is also great and very close. For me it worths to have this collective gem game on Saturn to your house enjoy and remembers the golden period of the coin ops!!!
Canal Vc Decide é quase isso,mas jogo de luta é meio dificil de fazer isso Refiro a outros tipos de jogos q vc pausa no meio do game play ate sincronizarem Mas pensando denovo,acho q ia dar muito mais trabalho,kkkkkk Vi uns game plays de canais gringos fazendo comparaçoes mas com sincronizaçoes do game play e achei bem legal
Finally coming to grips with the Saturn's 3D architecture SEGA did a wondrous job porting this over to there home console, outside of a 50% frame rate loss, lower resolution, and some graphical effects missing it's nearly identical.
O melhor Sega Rally já lançado é o do Saturn!!! Arcade pode ter um gráfico muito superior mas a jogabilidade que colocaram no saturn não tem igual!!! Só de olhar pro vídeo, consigo sentir (saturn) o peso do carro nos meus dedos!!! Ah se tivesse como jogar uma versão online desse jogo no saturn nos dias de hoje...eu estaria entre os melhores...amo esse jogo e até hj tento bater meus próprios records nele...
One of the best Sega Saturn conversions. Really, differences are meaningless here, it's the same experience, one can run at 60 fps and the other have less memory for textures but the game is solid in both systems
I love the arcade version! I played the saturn version over and over, but the arcade with 4 times the resolution, double the framerate, filtered textures, transparencies, better draw distance, higher polygon models with round courves, perspective correct texture mapping and analog controls is absolutely beautiful! Saturns music is much better, tho.
It took an original Xbox to convert this game properly. Not a Sega Dreamcast, which came close, but still couldn't show it in full force. I know this cause of the arcade game Killer Instinct, which was released in the same time period as Sega Rally Championship. I had a SNES in that time, and although the gameplay was converted 1 on 1, it didn't came close near the arcade quality, with its semi-3d arena's. We got a 1 on 1 conversion of Killer Instinct on the original X box. So my guess is only an Xbox could recreate Sega Rally's Championship original. The Dreamcast had a port of SRC, but it felt like a spin off, probably cause they couldn't port it 1 on 1. The X Box was the first console that could play all these arcade games 1 on 1. 🙂😉
The camera always points in the direction the car is moving, not the direction the car is facing. Later racing games, including Sega Rally sequels, got that wrong and took all the fun out of drifting.
Ich kann bis heute nicht verstehen warum der Saturn keine Transparenzeffekte darstellen kann.oder warum bei der Hardwarekonzipierung nicht darauf geachtet wurde
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The Saturn port has some of the most satisfying handling of any racer ever. The graphics are not bad either.
*And it plays amazing on a Normal controller too* ⭐️
One thing Sega Rally nailed was the drifting, never played a racing game before where simply going around a corner was so satisfying.
Even more on Saturn because of the loose suspension.
Ridge Racer PS1 says what now? Lol
@@leogets2006 Ridge Racer drifting feels more "automatic". Like the car enter in drift mode in RR, while in Sega Rally feels more natural to me. A better integration of. I like both but SR is way more fun imho
Ridge racer drifting was some garbage 'on rails' affair. Where as rally used a generalised mechanic that approximated physics.
@@leogets2006 Seriously RR has really bad handling next to whats going on in Sega Rally. How can you be so wrong,holy shit.
It's remarkable just how faithful the Saturn port of Sega Rally is compared to the arcade original. Even more so when you consider how much more powerful the Model 2 arcade board was over the Saturn's internal hardware. I played this game to death on Saturn. Easily one of the most playable home console racers to this day. The handling of the cars was just perfect. The Saturn port remains the best home version of Sega Rally for me.
Same here brow ... I bought the Saturn because of the Sega arcades , I was nuts for them .. and when it came bundled with a demo disc which had the second track to play time attack as u want , I just got nuts about it! A few months latter I bought the full version and loved it even more, me and my dad plays it to death this game! What a sound track ! The handling ... everything in this game is just great! I love it to this day!
TigonVLiger even better than the PS2 japanese port and the Windows 95 version imo
I'd say it's because they messed up Daytona so bad, that they poured a lot more effort into Sega Rally to avoid both their arcade driving hits going to shit.
Even though I never played or heard about this game when I was little and only first played it a few months ago, there is something nostalgic about it for me...
What's even crazier is the lag free split screen player mode. This is programming genius
A $400 console had no business being this close to the $30,000 arcade machine! Amazing port.
Well it's not really close at all ...
$400 at launch.....still plays amazingly well today and better than the port of Sega Rally 2 to Dreamcast.....I’d say that’s close for the hardware it ran on. 😌
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube it's close enough
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30fps vs 60fps ummmmm
the sega saturn version looks insane close. for a home port at that time, it looks really good. i think the rocking soundtrack on the saturn kinda makes up for the graphical loss ''that little''. the arcade version still looks gorgeous but so does the sega saturn version. the saturn version just oozes sega saturn graphic style, these games made me prefer a saturn over the psx.
When it was released it was seen as a disappointment. People were expecting it to look even more like the arcade
alex ojideagu I had it when it was first released. I thought it looks awesome at the time with Virtua Fighter 2.
Virtua Fighter 1 was a poor conversion. But yes Virtua Fighter 2 was seen as a very good conversion
alex ojideagu Virtua Fighter Remix looks good though.
Yeh I Agree Remix is a lot better, a massive improvement on 1. One was rushed to get to launch, big mistake!
Being a teenager at the time I remember reading how SEGA were making “good” with their second gen ports from their launch titles .
SEGA Rally, VF2, Manx TT, Virtua Cop, House Of The Dead.... those first launch games sure did do some damage!
How history may have been different if they'd jumped into 3d earlier in the Saturn's development.
one of the most awesome ports arcade to console i've ever seen in my life
*and played dude!*
Not really
Sega were so far ahead of Namco with their arcade tech. It's not even funny.
Bedtime Stories
So true, when you think of the likes Daytona, Sega Rally & Virtua Fighter 2 and compare them to Ridge Racer and Tekken 2, although i love all these games the gulf is clear to see!
Sega weren't far ahead, Namco chose to base Tekken 2 on Playstation 1 technology to save money. They knew it was inferior to Model 2. Ridge Racer System 22 is very similar in power to Sega Model 2
@@alexojideagu Are you high? Model 2 pissed all over System 22. Look at Sega Rally compared to Ridge Racer 2. Or Virtua Fighter 2 compared to Tekken 2. The difference is night and day.
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel Tekken 2 is not System 22, Tekken 2 runs on PS1 arcade hardware, and was never intended to compete with Model 2. System 22 is 1 year older than Model 2 and very comparable in power.
@@alexojideagu Fair enough about Tekken 2. But that doesn't change the fact that games on System 22 generally look shit compared to games running on Model 2. I wouldn't say they were "comparable" in terms of power. Model 2 was obviously a lot better. Especially as System 22 was two years behind.
This is what effort looks like
What amazes me about this port is that despite the limitations of the Saturn, nothing is really missing here. (OK transparency on the windows, but that's minor)
The resolution is lower and it runs at a locked 30fps but other than that this is a damn fine port. They even added textures to some things that the arcade is missing. Like the flags lining the start line. The draw distance is pretty close to what the arcade was too. Close enough to not be all that noticeable really. The road textures take a hit, but obviously some concessions had to be made here.
A lot of love was put into this and it really shows.
Simplesmente a melhor conversão de um jogo de corrida de hardwares diferentes da geração 32bits, cada detalhe foi portanto pro saturno mesmo com toda desvantagem poligonal diante da model 2,e a trilha sonora melhorada arregaça a da versão arcade lindo port
saturn version has a lower resolution (more noticeable on the car), lacks polygon transparency (see car window), and more pop ups. That said, its a really good port and keeps up to the much more powerful arcade version very well. I owned the real version and it runs silky smooth at 60fps.
Games list of Saturn that runs at 60 fps:
All-Japan Pro Wrestling featuring Virtua (1997)
Clockwork Knight: Pepperouchau's Adventure (1994) (Characters are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay)
Clockwork Knight 2 (1995) (Characters are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay)
Dead or Alive (1997)
DecAthlete (1996)
Digital Dance Mix Vol. 1: Namie Amuro (1997)
Fighters Megamix (1996)
Fighting Vipers (1996)
Guardian Heroes (1996) (Seems to be using 3D floors)
Goiken Muyou: Anarchy in the Nippon (1997)
J.League Go Go Goal! (1997)
Jonah Lomu Rugby (1997) (The players are 2D sprites but the rest is 3D at solid 50 fps - European-only release so it's limited to 50 fps)
Last Bronx (1997)
Layer Section II (1997) (60 fps but with some heavy slowdown at times)
Mass Destruction (1997)
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei (1996) (Only cutscenes are 60 fps but they're rendered in real time)
Radiant Silvergun (1998) (Some characters and items are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay)
Savaki (1998)
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru (1997) (Several backgrounds and some platforms are 3D)
Skeleton Warriors (1996) (Characters and several items are 2D sprites; 2D gameplay)
Stellar Assault SS (1998) (In interlaced mode the image is blurred but the objects are moving 60 times per second with their "ghosts" being cleared only in the next frame)
Street Racer Extra (1996)
Striker '96 (1996) (The players are 2D sprites but the rest is 3D at solid 60 fps)
Tempest 2000 (1996)
Terra Cresta 3D (1997)
Thunder Force V (1997) (Enemies and some background objects are 3D)
Virtua Fighter 2 (1995)
Virtua Fighter Kids (1996)
Zero Divide: The Final Conflict (1997)
thanks! i always wanted to know
Virtua Fighter 2 ran at 60 FPS as well
weren't those windows in the arcade version ditthered?. i remember liking the effect but also remember them as tiny little pixels that gave that mirroring effect.
I guess that you didn't notice that Sega Rally is NOT on the 60 fps list...
Uma das melhores conversões de arcade para console doméstico feitos nessa geração.
melhor jogo de corrida do Saturn, disparado, e um dos melhores dessa geração.
melhor jogabilidade de jogo de corrida que já joguei até hoje.
quem apenas olha as imagens e compara os gráficos não tem noção de quão boa é essa conversão. e as versões instrumentais das musicas do Arcade destroem também.
If only Saturn kept up this standard back in the day.
Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, Panzer Dragoon 2 and others around the time proved the console could be awesome.
This was still seen as a disappointing conversion graphically
alex ojideagu Oh yes, I remember. It's not 60fps and it has clipping.
Back then, just as they should now, developers should ask gamers what they actually want.
only because it wasn't on par with Model 2.
no hardware was on par with Model 2 in 1995.
bizarroeddie1 You're right there.
Sadly Sega couldn't bridge the gap between arcades and home ports as well as the PS1.
And that's coming from a Saturn fanboy.
stufaman Tekken Arcade for example uses a PS1 board with some extra power. While there's a massive power gap between Model 2 (the most powerful gaming hardware at the time) and Sega Saturn hardware. Virtua Fighter 2 and Sega Rally were great ports. Each arcade cabinet with model 2 costs $15000 to buy at the time, while the Saturn was like a $400 console. So overall impressive ports.
É uma conversão muito boa em termos de gráficos e som. Quase perfeita. Mas a verdadeira estrela é a jogabilidade - aí sim uma conversão perfeita dos jogo arcade para o controle do Saturn. É espetacular.
I remember there was a demo disk in UK on the official Sega Saturn magazine just before Xmas, best Xmas present EVER!. I’m surprised I didn’t wear the disk out.
Back when Arcade Games were the real jaw dropper.
Sega Rally was the game i bought along with my Saturn, i can remember setting the Saturn up for the 1st time and playing this amazing game, it just blew my mind!
Saturn always pulled off their arcade feel. Played this game to the max just beating my own times.
É um orgulho para o Brasil esse canal!
the saturn port looks at 95% accurate to the original arcade version a very very good port. Saturn is awesome!
Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, and Daytona Remix on the Saturn were amazingly close to the arcade versions. If Sega could have maintained that level of quality all the time by making the hardware easier to program for developers, Saturn would have easily won that hardware generation.
Eh Sony have the third party support tho
Close? I don't think so. But still graphically good games for a home console at that time.
I think the transparency on Playstation really made most people think the PS was better.
@@dxtremecaliber The entire reason Sony had superior third-party support that generation was because the PS1 hardware was easy to develop software for. In comparison, the Saturn was rushed to market and very difficult to develop software for as a result of the parallel processing.
Both versions were made at the same time! Both were from the same Director SEGA RALLY and Ridge Racer on PS Both are fantastic and fun to play to this day! ⭐️ ❤️ ⭐️
This was the GAME Right here! Virtua Fighter Virtua Racing & Sonic R and Sega Rally Championship. They are at the topics.
One of my favorite Sega Saturn games ever made. The port was amazing.
Man, Saturn got a brilliant port of this game.
Mind you, I think Sega did a pretty damn good job with nearly all of its Model 2 to Saturn ports (especially Virtua Fighter 2).
Even original Daytona USA is pretty good (Daytona: CCE, although prettier and with more stuff, really screws with the handling), despite being 20fps and having a lowish draw distance.
If only they did such a job with Dreamcast and Model 3. :/
This game is wonderful and addictive. It's a shame it has few tracks and cars. If it had 6 tracks and 4 cars it would be the best racing game ever!
It had 3 cars and 4 tracks. That was fine for the time. It was more about perfecting you lap times.
It's sad there was no challenge mode or a console championship with reverse track and a few random events (avoid cones in this section etc...).
Those are always a good addition.
Está aí um dos melhores jogos do saturn. Apesar do port inferior por motivos óbvios, na época não tinha quem não ficasse boquiaberto com ele!! Diversão garantida!!!!
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O carro da versão arcade está um pouco maior e não tem construção de tela o sega Saturno fez um ótimo Port esses detalhes não atrapalha em nada o game do sega Saturno que ficou ótimo a limitação técnica do sega Saturno quase não se percebe nota 10 para sega
Saturn is an AMAZING port for the console
Blank Blank yeah, for the 3d standard on the console i guess its quite good, but its not even close to the arcade
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A very competent port. The drifting in this game feels so good.
Agreed.
Easily one of the best arcade racing games ever made. And the Saturn port was easily among the best Saturn arcade ports on the platform..
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It's crazy how good Arcade games seem so good visually to look back then!
Comparing to the Arcade version, Saturn did a much better job on Sega Rally than Daytona USA
I remember when this game came out it was part of what Sega was calling one of the big 3, there was Sega rally, virtua figher 2 and virtua cop all 3 games were so close to the arcade it was unbelievable, I was a hardcore Saturn fan back then and super proud my machine was pumping out graphics like this after being battered by playstion fan boys, if there was one thing that Saturn had was a library of quality titles it's a shame it wasnt the success it was ment to be only in later years now as a retro machine has it gained serious value and considered a gem amongst collectors, while the ps1 is worth nothing as everyone has those lying around, in my book the Saturn won by playing the long game because it's become like the snes a classic.
Fiquei impressionado com essa conversão!
Eu não fazia ideia como a equipe que converteu a versão de arcade de Sega rally mantendo praticamente todos os detalhes vistos na model 2 mesmo reduzindo o número de polígonos e a taxa de fps , a versão do sega saturn ficou incrível!
Como ce gravou o gameplay do arcade? No mame mesmo?
That was the one game I wish playstation had! I used to play it for hours in my friend's Saturn!
Versão Arcade mais bonita claro, mas em Sega Rally o destaque é a jogabilidade. E isso foi mantido no port. Excepcional game de corrida, só podia ser da Sega em sua melhor fase...
É verdade
I have GOT to love the both versions.
Considering the hardware limitations of the Saturn, it still looks pretty damn good.
Did you use rgb for saturn version?
It goes without saying.
Model boards (doesn't matter which one) were top of the line, most expensive and most advanced hardware of their time. Boards that were, we could say... especially custom-crafted for high end arcade experiences.
They were a dream back then, and they still are.
Because some of their games haven't got a decent port yet, and probably never will.
Not to mention the complex logistics and excessive amount of money you needed to buy one arcade machine back then, and even more so now.
All that said...
Sega Saturn's Sega Rally was and still is OUTSTANDING. Feels like the arcade, and to my 12 year old self... it looked just like the arcade, heck anything on the Sega Saturn was a dream come true, even some sub-par ports like the first Virtua Fighter or the original blocky-no-field-of-view Daytona's port.
Also the 30 fps downgrade, low res textures and grainy graphics of Saturn's Sega Rally were just circumstancial and a product of their time as a game from the very first years of an extremely complicated hardware to program for. I'm pretty sure that with an extended time of development they would achieved 60fps.
Of course the arcade version wins, due to the more powerful hardware. But you gotta appreciate how close to "arcade perfect" the Saturn version came. Sega did an amazing job with it. (Now imagine if that had put the same effort into a Saturn version of Scud Racer)
Edit: Why wasn't the extra stage included???
Even now Sega Rally is my fav arcade game along with Wrestlefest. My dad and i always play when we come across them.
Great great port!
Easily one of the best Sega Saturn games of all time.
The driving feel was just, completely spot-on.
2:14. "very long easy right maybe." That line is great ha ha.
Both versions play amazingly. The Arcade is clear winner on graphics but then given that model 2 hardware cost more than a real car back in the day that's unsurprising. If anything it's amazing how good they managed to get it to look on the Saturn and even more amazing it runs at a silky smooth 60fps.
Saturn version ran at 30fps dead on.
The PS2 japanese port runs at 512x448i 60fps.
Vega
Who the fuck cares?
こういう動画を作る人がいることに感動する。amazing!!!
Junto com Virtua Fighter 2 e Virtua Cop foi a melhor conversão da placa Model 2 da Sega, pena que os sucessores tiveram conversões ruins.
julhao244 House of Dead foim al convertido, mas como manteve a diversão, ficou bom tbm.
What's crazy is the sega saturn version has lag free split screen player mode. This is programming genius
A velocidade com que o Arcade rodava o jogo e com aqueles gráficos inovadores para a época deixava qualquer um impressionado! Eu babava na frente dos fliperamas!
Saturn -version is quite amazing port, unlike Sega Rally 2 on DC.
M1XART a shame.The DC port of sega rally 2 was rushed to the market. Dreamcast can receive a much better port if it wasn't rushed to the launch
It was programmed using WinCE. That limited it.
Christian Palmer so true. The same happened with Tomb Raiders 4 and 5 on DC with terrible framerates, bad graphics for a 128-bit console and long loading times...
There was a cheat that you can input to get 60fps with reduced graphics on the dreamcast.
M1XART Yeah DC port was shit compared to this!
That third race on the championship is like impossible but surely it must be doable
Seems like the arcade view is from a slightly different angle and I like it much better. I had this on Saturn back in the day but never actually saw it in the arcade.
They knocked it out of the park with this one.
The differences are noticeable. Look at the Skybox on the Saturn version. It’s a straight up pre rendered image that just sort of floats in the background. The pop in is definitely noticeable. The poly count is noticeably reduced and the frame rate cut in half.
But with all that said, it holds up surprisingly well. Considering the model 2 was so far ahead of everything at that time and the Saturn was drastically underpowered by comparison, it’s still a damn good port job that captures the game completely with a few cut backs.
The frame rate is solid and rarely seems to dip unlike the early Daytona USA port. The sense of speed is still there. The handling is still there. The pop in is drastically improved over the early Daytona USA port.
AM2 really did get to know the Saturn hardware better than anyone else and I think they consistently got the best results out of it.
Acho (ênfase no acho) que é um dos melhores ports do arcade para o Saturn.
um dos melhores, com absoluta certeza..... e provavelmente é o melhor port, sim..... teve também VF2, fightin vipers, xmen vs street fighter.....
LGD Retrogamer LGD Retrogamer só não foi melhor que o milagre operado no Virtua fighter 2 que roda na resolução máxima dos 32 bits( 720x 525 resolução nunca alcançada no PSX) inclusive mais alta que a do próprio arcade.
Valeu pela informação Shelton!
É verdade
Saturn pulled this game off pretty well.
Great and enjoyable port,top and must have game for Saturn
Great port! best driving game for the Saturn
Despite the lores textures and lacks of effects, the Saturn port looks pretty close to the arcade. Nice job.
Crazy how much better the arcade version looks! Also 60 frames per second vs 30. Looks almost like comparing PS1 to PS2!
A very impressive 2D game ....
Sem duvidas o arcade levou a melhor.
Melhor definição e animação muito perfeita.
o saturno foi incrivel! mas incr[ivel mesmo é o desempenho dessa AM2 arcade, 60fps com AA em 1993
Sega Rally in the arcade was a revelation almost on the level of Daytona USA for me. In some ways, I liked Sega Rally better because the handling was more realistic and easier to master. The power sliding just felt right, unlike a lot of arcade racers which made a habit of turning cars to ridiculous angles.
The Saturn version is a very good port. That said, this port goes to show that the promise of arcade-quality graphics wasn't quite there, at least when comparing Model 2 games to Saturn conversions. It's a little odd that the Saturn architecture strayed so far from Sega's arcade hardware at the time, although the Model stuff was really expensive and not likely to have translated to a home console easily at anything close to a reasonable price. Games like Virtua Fighter 2 got impressively close, but Sega Rally is just so smooth, sharp, and fast. The Saturn port gets amazingly close, but is still a little rough. Having the choice today, since the Saturn version doesn't really add anything to the arcade game, I'll play the Model 2 version every time. But for 1995, the Saturn port was a great game to have and play. It's really impressive when you think about how close they managed to get it that early on in the console's life. WAY better than the Daytona USA port.
Other than resolution and draw distance, this is as close to an arcade perfect port that I've seen on older consoles. This is way better than Daytona USA's console port.
The Saturn port is a marvel, given the hardware differences
Sega model 2 arcade cambine was a technology beast the period came out Sega rally. Sega saturn port is also great and very close. For me it worths to have this collective gem game on Saturn to your house enjoy and remembers the golden period of the coin ops!!!
Saturn's pop-up is really apparent in the background.
I honestly expected the arcade to look a lot better, Saturn was so under rated
cara,ia t dar uma dica de editar os videos,edita ele no ponto p ficarem sincronizados
Se passar do sincronismo vc pausa um deles ate ficarem iguais
sua dica seria mais ou menos parecida com essa abaixo ?
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Canal Vc Decide é quase isso,mas jogo de luta é meio dificil de fazer isso
Refiro a outros tipos de jogos q vc pausa no meio do game play ate sincronizarem
Mas pensando denovo,acho q ia dar muito mais trabalho,kkkkkk
Vi uns game plays de canais gringos fazendo comparaçoes mas com sincronizaçoes do game play e achei bem legal
Simonsen Bandeira I think the Saturn version destroys Daytona USA Saturn
the arcade version simply looks STUNNING for 1995 i'd say close to xbox level
Finally coming to grips with the Saturn's 3D architecture SEGA did a wondrous job porting this over to there home console, outside of a 50% frame rate loss, lower resolution, and some graphical effects missing it's nearly identical.
Nice port for the saturn minus the more pixelated/blocky graphics. But the level design was near identical to the arcade.
love!
very good version for sega saturn. .
a version of Sega Rally Championship on N64 with Expansion Pack and on a 64 MB Cartridge (512 Mb) how would it have been Graphically...??
what a conversion . this thing was sooo addictive and knocked ridgeracer into a cooked hat
O melhor Sega Rally já lançado é o do Saturn!!! Arcade pode ter um gráfico muito superior mas a jogabilidade que colocaram no saturn não tem igual!!! Só de olhar pro vídeo, consigo sentir (saturn) o peso do carro nos meus dedos!!! Ah se tivesse como jogar uma versão online desse jogo no saturn nos dias de hoje...eu estaria entre os melhores...amo esse jogo e até hj tento bater meus próprios records nele...
Gráficos mais polidos na versão arcade, mas a versão do Saturno é muito boa.
ps2 port vs. arcade next?
One of the best Sega Saturn conversions. Really, differences are meaningless here, it's the same experience, one can run at 60 fps and the other have less memory for textures but the game is solid in both systems
no comparativo a versão de arcade eh melhor, mas joguei muito essa versão do saturno na locadora, o game over era icônico.
Either Sega Rally didn't exploit enough the model 2 or the Saturn version is superb, incredibly close to the original, with all the due limitations
Awesome game on any hardware.
I love the arcade version!
I played the saturn version over and over, but the arcade with 4 times the resolution, double the framerate, filtered textures, transparencies, better draw distance, higher polygon models with round courves, perspective correct texture mapping and analog controls is absolutely beautiful!
Saturns music is much better, tho.
Se necesita una comparación quíntuple entre las versiones de Model 2, Saturn, Windows, GBA, y PS2 (incluido en Sega Rally 2006)
It took an original Xbox to convert this game properly.
Not a Sega Dreamcast, which came close, but still couldn't show it in full force.
I know this cause of the arcade game Killer Instinct, which was released in the same time period as Sega Rally Championship.
I had a SNES in that time, and although the gameplay was converted 1 on 1, it didn't came close near the arcade quality, with its semi-3d arena's.
We got a 1 on 1 conversion of Killer Instinct on the original X box.
So my guess is only an Xbox could recreate Sega Rally's Championship original.
The Dreamcast had a port of SRC, but it felt like a spin off, probably cause they couldn't port it 1 on 1.
The X Box was the first console that could play all these arcade games 1 on 1. 🙂😉
I want the Arcade version graphics +Saturn Arranged OST= BEST RALLY GAME EVER!!
A saturn classic. Lovely
The camera always points in the direction the car is moving, not the direction the car is facing. Later racing games, including Sega Rally sequels, got that wrong and took all the fun out of drifting.
Only thing that bothers me in the Saturn port is the Celicas headlights. they look real messed up imo
Excellent sega rally😀😀😀
Ich kann bis heute nicht verstehen warum der Saturn keine Transparenzeffekte darstellen kann.oder warum bei der Hardwarekonzipierung nicht darauf geachtet wurde
Best port ever considerating tech powers.
They should re-release Sega Rally with HD graphics!
+Phil Dawson
Really?! I will look into it!
Thanks a lot!
Frame rate and graphic are better in the arcade, those were the best years ever!!