WHAT ETSY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW - How To Turn Off Offsite Ads
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2022
- And your top tip this week is an oldie, but a goodie! At least it is if you have the option to do this.. which not everybody does (anyone who has made $10k in the last year gets automatically opted in).
But if you're new to Etsy, make sure to turn off offsite ads if you don't want to be a part of it and be charged the hefty fee!
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I'm new on etsy and yesterday I had my 4th sale and it was 15%, I didn't know about this off site ads and I ended up to sell the product without a profit🤕I am glad that I found your video to avoid this in the future🥰
How bad is it that Etsy automatically opt you in, and how good is it that you told us that. Thanks Kim 👍
You're welcome Margaret. 💚😊
I feel like etsy makes a killing from offsite ads because they pay google per click, but charge the sellers a flat percentage. I had a $300 sale and had to fork over $50 on top of all the other fees.
It hurts. And the fact that many have no choice in whether they take part or not I find particularly problematic. But Etsy do want they want I guess. Do you have a website that you could sell your higher priced items on and keep more of the profit?
I owe you a drink! If only I had any money left to pay for it 🍺
Its worth noting that it isn't just 12%-15% of the sold item value. That percentage is applied to the total amount the customer pays. So that includes any sales tax and shipping. If you sell a low value item where the shipping is comparable to the sale value, you can easily lose money on those sales.
Yup. You have to include the fee in your price to make sure it doesn't leave you making a loss but doing so can often price you out of your market and make you lose sales.
I'm not a fan. 😉
I sell someone where the product is the same price. I sell keychains and had my first sale, the price is about 3 dollars and the shipping is four, yeah after all the fees were taken out I made only 40 cents per sale even tho my “estimated profit” was a couple bucks
Thank you so much for this, I just got shafted by a sale, left with an 8.92 profit from my usual 23.00 after the 15% and all the other % fees
I understand it's their platform etc, but automatically opting people in is a dirty tactic and makes them look bad
Exactly this. So many people are unaware that they are automatically opted into them and that lack of informed consent is beyond problematic.
at least you had something, I was left with nothing after this tax
That is very helpful, Kim, I had no idea we could opt out! Thank you! 💗💗
You're very welcome 😊
Etsy fee are craazy
They certainly do add up!
Kim, thank you for this valuable information
THANK YOU! You solved my problem.
thanks for this video!
thank you, I verry appreciate.
Life saver, thanks a lot!!
Thanks a lot i lost every month every months and your video helped me thanks again
Thank you for that been on Etsy for a while and never noticed
Thank you. Very helpful
Thank you, they should be ashamed for this stupid fee 15% is a deal breaker for me, and opting people in shows all they care about is their money not helping you build a business. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED. I OPTED OUT!
Thank you, those fees really caught me by surprise 🥴
Thank You
Llevo 4 ventas y me asuste al ver cuanto dinero mw han quitado por esto! Muchas gracias desde Mexico! Me has salvado ❤
Thank you very much! You just saved me lots of $$$$!
You're welcome Tammie. 💚
Thank you!
Thankyou its worked
Yep, didn't know about it and they took 18% on top of everything else... I was left with 85-90$ out of a 150$ sale after all the fees and shipping. Thanks for helping people sell their handmade work Etsy... -.-
Ooof. That's so much when you consider that's also before your materials, time and other costs too.
Etsy really need to better inform sellers of these fees so they can make an informed decision themselves. That's my greatest peeve about them.
Thank you
Thank you very much! I disabled it
Thanks! Didn't know you are automatically signed on. I subbed! 🙂
It's so cheeky isn't it! I made this video a while ago and I still can't believe they do this.
Thankss
Thank you, I am a new Etsy seller and got dinged hard. I am selling hoodies for $65 Canadian and my profit after all costs is $10. I just shut off offsite ads....Thank you
Oh wow! Just goes to show how those fees can add up. So glad I could help and good luck with your shop going forward! 😁
OMG ...I'm not even new.. started beginning of the year! I have 4 shops all over the place and just trust I'm getting paid every time.. so only just thought to myself...hold on...I just made a £40 sale and Etsy just sent me £26! Looked through my finances and saw a SCROLL!!... of charges for just 1 item... this is crazy. I must have lost a fortune to Etsy for the whole year.. anyway ..thanks very much for this video... at least I will save some money now. Damn it!
Yeah those fees flipping add up and the offsite ad fee can be a beast on top of them all. 😬
Interested on how the order number dropped from that moment
Hi everybody, the height of ETSY offline Ads also amazes me. The percentages are pretty high.
But I'm wondering about another thing - did you notice a decrease in orders in your etsy shop after you canceled the offline ads? Has it affected your sales?
Thanks for the comments and of course your video Kim.💓
Thanks Kim. Never knew I could opt out. I am now opted out. Whooppeeee
This is exactly my issue with Etsy and these ads, their lack of transparency about them.
Glad you were able to opt out. 👍
This is the 2nd time I have tried selling on Etsy. The first time I didnt price my greeting cards correctly including all the fees etc so I had no profit. The offsite ads fees took away any profit I might have had. I then upped my prices and added free postage and opened my store again. Not one sale in 2 1/2 months.
Where am I going wrong?
@@joanprinceprince79 it takes time, and it could just be timing, the economy, the season, the niche, the market saturation etc. For new sellers, ESTY IS NO LONGER A PASSIVE PLATFORM, where you list an item and depend on Etsy to bring traffic to your shop. To be SUCCESSFUL, you have to be willing to promote your own products and services, and able to draw traffic to your shop through community outreach and social media engagement.
@@Sacred.Wisdom I advertise on my Facebook page and another group I belong to EVERY SINGLE DAY. I occasionally do Instagram but not any of the other ones.
I guess it depends on what you're selling. You don't want to sell yourself short, after the extra fees, if you are selling labour-intensive products. However, if it is something that is easily duplicated (e.g. reprints of your embroidery patterns) then 'every profit's a profit' irrespective of how many fees are being added on.
True, so long as you've included the fees into the price and many forget to do that unfortunately. Then wonder where all their money has gone when they do make a sale! 😊
Thank you so much
You're welcome 💚
Thanks it been charge me more and no even profit
Thanks for the tip Kim, you have just saved me £52. It's obscene the amount Etsy charges.
Wow! If I've saved you that much then this video was worth making. Glad it was helpful! 💚
@@KimBliss It was a big ticket item. However, these were the fees Etsy charged me - Off-site ads £52.49. The Etsy payment processing fee was £14.90 plus £20.31 for something else. Etsy fees were a total of £87.70. My profit for the item was around £10! Now the off-site ads have been turned off my profits should now increase. The other ad option to turn off is the Etsy Ads campaign. It's where you can select how much money per day you want to spend on click-throughs. It's at the bottom of the listing page. I tried it for a while, but I was spending more than I was making.
Good grief they really add up don't they!
@@KimBliss Here's an update to my early post. I said you saved me £52 by unchecking the Off-Site ads.
However, I went into my settings and unchecked all my Etsy ad boxes, and to my surprise, believe it on not, I was refunded £93 on all my Etsy ads💷💷💷
A big thank you for your Etsy tip!
WOAH! I certainly didn't see that coming, nice one! And to think I almost didn't make this video because I thought people would find it too boring. 😆
I only made 450eur this year and last sale they charged me for my first time.. is it normal?
Thank you for this. I don't think I can do it from the mobile site unless anyone else is able to help? Thank you.
You can't do most things from the blimming app at the moment. If I want to do anything behind the scenes in my shop these days I'm almost always reaching for my laptop! 😄
Thanks for this video. I've just started my shop recently and my latest sales totalled 125 euro and Etsy are paying me 33 euro (after you subtract shipping fees) Thats 73% of my profit, I wonder if its really worth it. I was really happy with how my shop was going but now I'm totally despondent.
Have you tried using an Etsy fee calculator? I use these when pricing my products so that I can make sure I cover all my costs AND make a profit on each item.
@@KimBliss This Does Not work as you have to price your items competitively. You can't charge any price you want and expect to make a sale.
You Do ALL the Work & Etsy Takes All Your Money. Not such a touchy feely Company. More like the MOB.
My experience 😂. Thanks yo this video I turned it off . I didn’t even know I was paying offside adds.
My product cost 💲 8.50 +shipping =13.50
Etsy took $2.00 for offside adds . On top of it they took another 18% of total. 😢
Basically my item was free
So sorry this happened to you, but glad you've been able to switch them off!
I can't believe that over a year on, Etsy still aren't being upfront about automatically opting people in to this.
Thanks for the great video but just wondering, why I do not have ''stop promoting my products'' option? is this because of I am located in Australia? I do not have any turn off options at all and the system keep continues deduction!
Everybody should be able to opt out. If you're struggling to find it on the app, take a look at your shop dashboard on desktop. It's much easier to find it that way.
Ya, mines not showing the opt out button either, i'm in the usa..
@@KimBliss Everybody Cannot Opt Out.
What Etsy is Doing is Illegal in Europe but Not in the U.S.
You Cannot Opt out if you are in the U.S.
I think the next question is what percentage of your total sales came from offsite ads that you wouldn't have had. How much additional revenue. How will it affect my sales and revenue after removing it? If a small percent of total sales is being taken advantage of but it also increases my number of sales , which is better. (I am against the 15%)
To be honest, I do think that offsite ads have a place, and some sellers do like having them as an option to help get sales.
It's the lack of transparency that I take issue with. Most Sellers don't even know they've been opted in until they get their first sale from them and see the fees. That's not right.
Sellers need to be informed *before* being opted in and need to be able to make the choice themselves.
And don't even get me started on the forced opt ins of higher earning sellers.
Thank you!!! I searched and couldn't find it, until your video. So you are only able to turn it off on computer, not at the sellers app 🤦
Yeah funny that huh? It's made as hard as possible to opt out of.
Is it wise to ask customers to buy the item again and then not trough the add? Etsy just took a huge chunk out of my sale that it just not realistic for me to make the product honestly, I already passed the 10 000 and I just don’t want offsite ads cause I don’t need it, never got a order from them cause I just don’t need them
I wouldn't recommend doing this. Apart from likely annoying the customer and risking negative feedback from them, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it goes against Etsy's policies also.
I would recommend checking Etsy's policies and looking into starting your own website that you can drive traffic to.
This is the first time am getting offsite ad charge. It’s my 10th sale.
If l opt out now will it affect Etsy promoting or advertising my products?
Am actually paying for ads already for clicking through
If you turn them off Etsy won't promote your listings in offsite ads, that's all. It won't affect getting seen on the site (providing your seo is good etc).
But if you're happy to pay the fee then there's no need to turn them off if you don't want to.
Just know they're there and make sure you've factored the extra cost into your pricing.
The ads can be helpful to soke people, my issue is just that Etsy needs to be more transparent about them, that's all. 😊
I'm over the $10k a year thresh-hold and this year alone I've already paid over $1,000 dollars for the offsite ads crap, I WISH I could turn it off!
This is my main gripe with the ads. It's not that they exist, it's that new sellers aren't told that they've automatically been opted in and that sellers such as yourself have no choice.
@@KimBliss I don't need them, and they cut into my profits big time. 😥
Ah mate, so sorry. Are you able to raise your prices, or would that price you out of your niche?
My shop has been active for just over a year and I'm that... ONE new Seller who likes the Off Site Ads, "thinks it's a great idea", and choose to participate in them ...because plainly it's a SALE. As I'm still trying to build traction and gain social proof, and have no social following nor network (still working on driving my own traffic), I'm truly GRATEFUL for every sale that I make. Yes the 15% fee is a "put off" but I just adjust my pricing strategy to account for it and accept making lower margins on that sale. For me, as a New Seller, the Sale, the Review, and appeasing the Algorithm (Esty shows listings that SELL) is worth the 15% fee.
Completely agree 🙂
When we try it there is no such option to off adds now what should I do?
It only works in Europe where what Etsy is Doing IS Illegal.
It is Legal to Screw You if you live in the U.S. or other parts of the world.
I don't receive the money of the offside ads orders!! Does It happen to you?
It hasn't happened to me, but I've opted out of offsite ads.
Contact Etsy if you're not receiving payment after a customer has bought from you through offiste ads. They will be able to help you. 💚
Hey Kim.. I've had time for a re-think about this after checking my Etsy finances... my Opt-in marketing sales are only about 10% of my total sales a month on average.. and if I give Etsy the full benefit of the doubt that those sales could only have been made through their own off-site marketing... that generated me 10% extra sales that I wouldn't have made. Even though the charges were far higher than I was expecting... my margin is high enough to still return me a profit from a sale I wouldn't have had otherwise. Also...having more eyes on your products can eventually lead to returning customers and getting seen outside could still lead to more followers over time and sales made directly from your shop. So... it isn't as bad as I thought, I just freaked out when I 1st noticed I was charged a ton of money more than I was expecting from a recent sale.. and now can see this is not often the case my items sell from outside of my own shop. I've opted back in for that reason.
Cool! My issue with offsite ads isn't the fee itself, it's how many sellers, including yourself, don't realise that they have been automatically opted into them or even what they are.
There's an issue of informed consent that is absent and that's my main issue with them. I'm glad to hear that they're working out for you though. Long may it continue! 👍
@@KimBliss Etsy is A DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY SCUMBAG COMPANY.
They force you to pay 25% Commission (On shipping too!) and you do ALL THE WORK!
I dont see this option of stop promoting my ads. Can any one help understand why?
Hey Jalpa, are you looking on your phone or on desktop?
I always see the option when looking at my dashboard on desktop so try that if you haven't already.
Oh yes I sold a product for £60 and they have charged me (£9 0n for that sh...) apart of other fees. I fell like working for free.
I use offsite adds, and, drum role.... like them. One shop has no choice, the other does and I chose to participate. My third shop does not participate. But it is based on what you sell. I sell vintage in the 2 participating shops. Because there isn't an item that repeats once sold it is harder to make the most of Etsy promos etc. So having offsite ads has meant the difference of 1/3 to even 1/2 more sales (depending on season). Yes, I pay more but as it garners me more sales it is worth it. It is the difference between a more rollercoaster income and a slightly more level income. (Note, my 3rd shop sells digital downloads and so can repeat, so I do not use the ads.)
You've hit the nail on the head with it being dependent on what you sell. And to be honest, my issue isn't with the ads as they're just another tool in the Etsy toolbox.
It's the lack of transparency and the fact that so many sellers don't know that they are a) automatically opted in or b) that they can even opt out if below the threshold.
But I totally get what you're saying about them making the difference between random sales or decent, regular sales. They definitely have their place for sure. 👍
How can you tell if the offsite ads have contributed to your revenue?
As I've not sold through them I've never needed to check the breakdown but I'm guessing it would appear under your monthly statements under the fees section. There are a few other places it could appear, (in the offsite ads section or possibly along with the regular etsy ads break down). Either way, it'll be there somewhere.
But you can't view this info on the app yet as far as I can see. 💚
@@KimBliss I've never opted out of it because I've never seen a charge. But yes, I've done everything from my phone so far so I could be missing out on some important stuff! I need to grab a laptop and check all this out. Thanks.
@@julsknapp7192 Go into your Dashboard just under the boxes stating views and visits there is a heading Shop Advisor and under it will tell you your sales (if any) via Offsite Ads.
I don't sell on Etsy but has anyone figured out how to remove the 'Our Top Picks For You' feature?
Or been successful at actually being able to contact support on Etsy regarding this feature? Their Help Center is a waste of time.
But recently, I've been getting some crude suggestions from Etsy with nudity and other disgusting items. I've never once clicked on anything like these items that are being suggested nor bought anything like them.
Any help? I buy a lot on Etsy and I'm ready to just delete my account.
You can't unfortunately. I'm also seeing weirdness on my Etsy homepage with regards to recommendations and such although no mature items this time thankfully. 😄
It does happen though and is usually a sign that they've been tinkering with something in the background.
Are they calculating $10000 in the last 365 days or last year?
Etsy's help pages currently quote;
"The ability to opt-out of Offsite Ads depends on your shop’s sales in the last 365 days.."
Offsite Ads have brought me $242 in sales in the last 30 days and the fees was $29. What's there not to like?
By your math that $29 accounts for the 12% offsite ad fee. What about the other miscellaneous Etsy fees that are on top? And I'll assume that you're referring to digital products otherwise, you'll also have material costs, postage etc to take off before you get to your profit.
And that's before we've got on to the subject of the lack of transparency.
So respectfully, while I'm glad they're working out for you, theres a lot not to love. 😊
Etsy nickle and diming everyone with no legit proof their ads were the reason for your sales is bogus. I was losing a lot of money for no reason. On top of being a new seller whose money is already on hold.
Just left etsy after 7.19 offsite ad fee on a 34.90 sale. BS!
They are high tabs rip off 😢
It is not just 15% fee, if you live in Europe EU you will have to add up to 27% in VAT to your fees as well (if you are a private seller). You are loosing money big time.
Yup, but Etsy don't give two hoots about the sales tax a seller has to payon top.
As far as they're concerned, it's up to the seller to factor those in, and as they're not an Etsy fee, they can conveniently forget about them when they talk about the fees. 🙄
So you don't want to pay for marketing? 🤔🤔🤔
Why? I'm doing it perfect well myself. FOR FREE.
I want to turn off the annoying Ads Blocker that pops on every page! STOP
I'm not sure what you're referring to here?
I turned off the offside adds , forgot i did , my sales dropped almost to zero and i was trying like crazy to figure out what i was doing wrong 😂😂😂 It costs too much but probably thats the only way for me to have sales. I think the only way to work if you turn off the offside adds is stronge social media so you can drive your own traffic. DAMN THATS EXPENSIVE !!
This is why it's so important to build a community around your business so that you don't have to rely on paid ads to drive sales.
They should help lift your shop, not carry it. Have you tried selling elsewhere as well as Etsy?
@@KimBliss not yet but i am planning to make my own website!! I hope that works better!! 🙏🙏
It's a tricky time for sellers for sure and January is notoriously sucky. Fingers crossed organic traffic and sales will pick up again for Valentine's. 😊
Surely if you only get charged when you make a sale, what's the problem? 85% of something is better than nothing. What is the problem? Someone help me out here?
Short term if you are just starting out? Sure. But once you're more established you do actually want to make some money and keep your business viable. Many have found that they actually make a loss with Etsy offsite ads, hence them being so unpopular. People often mistake how the percentage is actually calculated and how much they end up taking away after the ads. It's not great.
@@KimBliss 100%
Thank you!
You're very welcome! 💚