Two Wing Chun Guys Challenge MMA Guy In China - MMA vs Wing Chun
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- I found this very interesting set of challenge matches with an amateur MMA fighter taking on two Wing Chun amateurs. We first watch the MMA fighter try to take on a Wing Chun guy who attempts to use some Wing Chun. Then we see the same MMA fighter take on a different Wing Chun guy that has more explosiveness (but no skill or defense). Let's see what lessons we can gain from this footage. Enjoy and leave your comments below! Big shoutout to Chinese MMA fighter Chen Lijun aka Kevin Chen for uploading this awesome footage to Bilibili. How does this one rank amongst the MMA vs Wing Chun matches we've seen?
0:00 Match 1
0:51 Match 2
2:02 Slow motion analysis
4:02 Account of MMA guy
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Look up Gene kim!!!
Where did you learn Chinese?
Maybe do a piece covering the mid set of these type of people. As a former soldier I cannot understand the extreme amount of delusion these guys live w!
I was a mma fighter a long time ago, in Europe, back when fighters like Sakuraba and Vanderlei silva were the most famous. I was a lightweight and very technical, fast and dynamic fighter. Won a few championships in some minor events.
Anyway, I remember this one time a friend begged me to go with him to his Wing tsun club and try it out a few times. I went for him and on the first day I end up knocking out the head trainer and another guy, bit younger, some kind of underling. I was just in my early twenties back then so I was pretty young.
It was obvious from the second I set foot there they just wanted to hurt me, the head trainer (guy in his 40's) just randomly punched me in the face and made me bleed in the mouth. Then he stood there smiling and said see how your mma failed you (How did he even know I trained mma, I never spoke about it and only showed them respect).
Motherf, randomly sucker punched me out of nowhere, I had no idea, now you are smiling, wtf. So I told him, I will knock you out if you ever try that again, he looked angry and went for a straight punch at me, so I knocked him out. Then his underling came at me with a flurry of cat strikes, tickling me all over the place, so I knocked him out too. I left and thought about pressing charges against them later on but didn't. My friend had no idea they would try to do that to me, he quit that place and came over to mma.
Wing tsun and these sort of clubs are cults. The people there are delusional and live in their own fantasy bubble. They can even be dangerous because they have an outside of the law mentality. Do not get involved with them. Oh, and also they are pussies.
Wow! Glad you were okay. Sounds like some straight up George Dillman stuff.
That's crazy, I glad u stopped after knocking them out. If I was ur friends I would be gave them an extra field goal kick in their faces for starting with u lol
Love it
This seems to good to be true. Either way, great story.
Lmao cool story bro. So dynamic 😂😂😂😂😂
When you tryna be Chun-Li but you should really Chun-Leave.
Do they even know how deAdly chun li training was
It's all about that shoryuken life.not shoryucan't.
I just want to see Ramsey Dewey vs Master Wong.
I want to see Shinya Aoki vs Master Wong. That's like my dream match.
I am a simple guy. I only want to see Master Wong fight in real fight.
Puritania you chicken
Y'all do understand that “master" Wong is just acting
I want to see Gordon Ramsey vs Master Wong.
"This chicken is RAW!!!"
Mixed Martial Artist: "Oh hey, so I hear you're in to music."
Traditional Martial Artist: "Yeah, that's right, I'm a musician."
Mixed Martial Artist: "Oh cool, so what kind of music do you play?"
Traditional Martial Artist: "Oh I don't play music, but I study a lot of music theory."
Mixed Martial Artist: "Huh? But isn't playing music part of being a musician?"
Traditional Martial Artist: "Music isn't about playing music, it's about the lifestyle."
Mixed Martial Artist: "So...you don't know how to play anything?"
Traditional Martial Artist: "Oh, I could play music if I wanted to. Like I said, I've studied music theory for years."
Mixed Martial Artist: "So, do you think you could play this guitar?"
Traditional Martial Artist: "Of course (takes guitar). Ow! These strings hurt my fingers!"
@nunchaku101,
Butthurt much?
@nunchaku101,
I don't only rolled. I knockout and submitted all those traditionalist. It was easy. Wing Chun suck against MMA. Deal with it.
@nunchaku101 We kind of just did. Like, you know, in the video you just watched.
@nunchaku101 yes. Please go to your local (reputable) MMA gym and challenge a high level fighter. Please upload the results to youtube, as Im sure we would all like to learn from your incredible skills. You would be instantly famous, known as the first Kung Fu guy to beat MMA guys. Would probably net you a TON of money via sponsors and ad revenue too.
So lets see.... Fame, fortune and respect from everyone in the martial arts community would all be yours, so have it my guy. There is no reason not to, unless you dont have the confidence in your skills.
@@redubd,
Agreed.
No no no. You made a mistake, they don't practice Wing Chun. They practice Swing Chun. It's like Wing Chun except with big horizontal arcing motions of the arms.
sirbobulous I don't know why this is the first time I'm hearing that, but thank you
Wing Chun needs to work more on Weak Chin....
That would be choi Lee fut not wing chun
Lmao 🤣
Every wing chun master in these videos has a perfect plan of how they’ll destroy their opponent, right up until they eat that first shot from the mma fighter. Then quickly devolves into wildly swinging haymakers and forgetting everything they thought they knew about fighting. Then they get immediately discredited by the other kung fools saying if they fought a real master, the other guy would be dead blah blah.
Hold on...
Base on the wingchuner's performance, then that means i'm also a wingchun fighter?
Are you? You have the wrong teacher
Hahaha.. Bulls eye..
Yes
Lol bulls eye...
master*
my favorite part of FCB's videos is reading the excuses afterwards
sometimes I dont even watch the videos just come right to the comments.
@@redubd that's hardcore man
Black belts of mental gymnastics.
ruclips.net/video/2eOa5xaqXvg/видео.html mma fighter loses by no martial arts guys with a wood stick. Fuck this mma bullshit sport.
@@nemesiszumbizada lol what. How Do you know the guy is an mma fighter. Dude look like he was getting jumped by multiple people.
Fat guy:**practices wing chun for years**
Also fatguy against mma guy: Screw wing chun, let's brawl
As a Wing Chun guy, that's pretty much what it looked like.
The first guy? That's not what you do with your lead hand and it was way too extended. It's like, 'here is my arm, now grab it and throw me or break it.' WTF?
Both Wing Chun guys had a chance...
They could have quit at any time
you never know, the MMA guy could have pulled a muscle or tear a ligament or something
i dont really see them using wing chun that much... i just see them swinging
@@silverwind9906 That's what happens when you encounter pressure and pain for the first time. No matter what your style is, even proven ones, if you haven't had many, many rounds of realistic sparring, you're going to fall apart and return to instinct.
@@silverwind9906 This is a result of no real sparring. Unless you test what you learn in a relatively real environment all "technique" goes right out the window and u end up with this.
Honestly the mma guy kinda sucked and If the 2nd kung fu guy knew how to keep his hands up and throw with better form he could have clipped him.
Someone please give these Wing Chun guys a decent meal, the entrees they've been served are robbing them of victories. Not fair.
Second guy look like he already had a few entrees too many
Hahahahahaha
Oh don't worry, the only entrees they have right now are called knuckle sandwiches.
"Iron face" I call it the "face to fist" technique
Wing Dung has chi sau (sticky hands) chi gerk (sticky legs) and now chi lian (sticky face). Whereby the opponents fist sticks to the wing dung fighters face.
I love your commentary as always. It makes the fights on your channel look comical!😂🤣😂🤣
The mma guy as you said is not a professional but his boxing skills are good. He know how to dodge punches and he almast always lands his punches on the chin which many fighters can not do.
Hes fighting a delusional man. Of course heblooks competent
I'm not professional and my boxing is better which says something
As much as I like TCMA pre 20th century I have to remember that the reputation of modern wing chun is all based on the stories of an emaciated opium addicted rich guy that served as a police officer for a while before fleeing to Hong Kong and teaching Bruce Lee (actually he rarely taught Bruce due to ancient Chinese racial bullshit, his disciple William mostly taught him).
If it wasn't for Bruce would we even know about Ip Man, would wing chun be well known?
TCMA has always been a bit cultish, the stories of our sifus throughout the different martial arts histories have always been embellished by disciples and Chinese scholars . As western practitioners we sometimes find it hard to sift through the bullshit and of course we want to believe.
Modern kung-fu movies carry on this tradition.
Not true actually wong shun leung thaught bruce mostly
Master Wong is legit! I saw his videos, incredible techniques. No BS, 200%.
@@a.morais1186 go play fortnite and please do not comment
@@jynxmangrove1769 Ah, yes, the classic "for the streets, not the cage" argument, a true way to convince actual fighters that they would be helpless against LARPers in pajamas if they fought them on "da streetz"
@@jynxmangrove1769 "Bouncing around like a boxer or rolling around on the floor like a homo doesnt work in real life."
It really seems to. We have dozens of videos of boxing and BJJ working in real street fights, yet we have no videos of wing chun working in real street fights. Why is that?
"First thing you teach people in the real world is dont fall down."
Sure, but wouldn't you want training that helped prevent you from getting taken down, and training that helped you get back up if you were taken or knocked down?
"Not to mention the FACT Ving Tsun uses two butterfly swords as their main weapon, would kill anyone in seconds."
So, in your opinion, wing chun can only be effective if it uses not one but two weapons? That seems like a rather glaring flaw. BJJ, Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling and so on, they seem to have no trouble beating wing chun guys with no weapons at all, sometimes with one arm or even one arm and one leg banned, so in a way, they actually have less than their bare hands and still win.
Thank you..I really enjoy theses videos
Yet I wait. One day a simple farmer who wrestles with cows and plays with dirt will rise up in the old wing Chun practice learned by his old sick grandfather. Then one day while in town by fluke he will be cought on camera fending off a pro mma champion . A "Star" is born.
/r/writingprompts/
Rural people are strong only in fantasy, fighting and herding are two different thing
Cowrastlin'
Oscar Mike
Other than the revenge plot this sounds like the plot line of every martial arts movie ever.........and unfortunately it is fantasy. If pure WC was even remotely effective against a trained combat athlete we would have seen a WC victory by now.
What kind of English is that? Brush up your grammar.
The iron face technique, HAAAAAAAAAA. You made my day with that phrase.
Wing Chun guy #1: I practice Fist/face wing chun
Wing Chun guy #2: And I've master Swing wild wing chun
Wing Chun Guy 1 and 2: "WE WILL NOT BE DEFEATED!!!!"
I wonder why 2nd guy even calls himself wing Chun. None of those punches followed the philosophy of center-line attack.
MMA guy: BRUH.
I think the biggest weaknesses you see in most wing chun practitioners are a lack of footwork and more significantly, the fact that they tend to try to reach a lot and grab the other person's hands/arms. Grabbing at the other person's arms is a habit that most people who don't know how to fight are inclined to have and it's something you actually have to train yourself not to do, but because of all the trapping techniques that wing chun emphasizes, practitioners of it tend to embrace that tendency which actually just makes it very easy for someone to hit them with a flurry of haymakers because the the wing chun guy will have a limited ability deter an attack with their strikes, since their hands are already near the extent of the range at which they can strike, preventing them from attacking at unpredictable angles and limiting their power, and they also are unable to get their hand back fast enough to defend every punch the opponent throws.
I think trapping can be a useful addition to a striker's arsenal, but it can only be effective to a limited extent and if that is your primary method of attack, you are just making yourself extremely vulnerable to even a clumsy flurry of hard shots. It's sort of like throwing high spinning kicks: it can work, but it also involves a high risk and if you are predictable with it, you are likely to put yourself in danger every time you do it.
Love this channel
Wingchun masters never use wingchun in a real fight because it doesn’t work lmao. They just start swinging aimlessly.
But swinging aimlessly also doesn't work. What is the logic here?
So far every fighter I have seen in these videos who calls himself a Kung Fu Master comes out & looks like they have no idea what they are doing. I don't see any skill level. Nothing. What do they practice? Do they even spar? I mean none of them even attempt to use sets or patterns they probably know. Like this big guy he just came out & started brawling. Where's his Win Chun he's been practicing? I'm sure he's been doing it for yrs. What happened to it? Looks like these guys just practice but do no physical training at all. They do very little or no sparring & when they do it's very lite. No where near the level of contact to prepare for a challenge like this. Like this MMA guy he train's. He gets his ass kicked in the gym every day then goes out & fights. A challenge like this is a Piece of Cake!!!
Wing Chun concepts and techniques are so effective and useful....when you know how to fight. This makes me sad, there's so much to learn from WC but this makes people not bother learning and you can't blame them
Always waiting for your latest update bro, everytime i see new post, i just click.
This happen when your imagination is greater than reality and do a fight. Result sleep like sleeping beauty or get smaasshhhhhh
I wonder what excuses these wing chun guys are going to make 🙄
This is the best channel to see qhen you are high af by far.
But, but, muh ip man movies.
real ip man is never at fault. he actually lives through war era.
@@yoshidayui7774 Yeah, I bet he beat all those karate black belts and Mike Tyson in real life.
Alex C 😂
@@Ale-mv3gr did you miss world war or before history lesson? Why did you quote movies? What do you think people use to defend themselves at that time? Mma? Movies are movies but people actually fought using tma back then instead of youtube comments like nowadays.
Yoshida Yui amen
From now on all Wing Chun practitioners must have medical and life insurances before going to challenge MMA or kick boxers. Seriously compulsory.
The two Wing Chun guys, Were beaten so badly...
Mixing Boxing and Wing Chun, Muay Thai will be a good thing. Wing Chun can't stand alone, when fighting aggresive fighter. But, mixing it of proven martial arts, would be in a different game.
That is what the channel Core JKD does. They're one of the best martial arts and self defense channels out there, yet for some reason no one who watches this channel watches them.
No just forget about Wing Chun all together. Instead just mix boxing and muay thai.
From my experience, Wing Chun had worked well for me when combining it with Karate. I once used the Chain Punch against a Muay Thai guy and it worked really well. It caught him off guard
Wing Chun can definitely stand on its own. I have a legit sparring video against a kickboxer and tae kwon do black belt on my channel. All those popular Wing Chun Vs Style sparring videos on YT are crap. Not a hint of real wing chun.
Anderson Silva combines the styles that you mentioned
"Oooh. That person is skinny like me." LOL. But on a side note, I wish I had your ability to speak, read, and write in Chinese. Your videos are entertaining. Best wishes and good luck.
As a Wing Chun guy who is also a combat sports enthusiast. I have to say, WC is becoming like the young man's tai chi. Every sifu I trained under refuses to adapt the style as they want it to remain pure traditional WC. I even got a lecture when I mention I was starting bjj. I still love WC but the young masters refusal to evolve it will be its undoing. 5 minutes before I got lectured the same master also said that Ip Chun himself (son of Ip Man) has said WC needs to evolve to keep up with other martial arts. So now I have started boxing.
Keep us posted on your boxing journey!
And to compare it to BJJ, which is constantly improving and adapting. BJJ today is almost a different style today than it was 30 years ago. The principles are still there, and the fundamentals, but no one was talking DLR guard or lockdown or rubber guard or gogoplata in 1995. It's totally the opposite.
Yeah I watch a few vids on BJJ from time to time and I can see how it is constantly advancing, as one guy learns a new move so then you need to learn how to counter it which then opens more opportunities. One guy even suggested to use the old old moves and you will catch people off guard because how everyone is trying to keep up with the new moves... Really interesting. And sweet, I was going away for a couple of months but when I get back I was actually thinking of doing a video series showing the different approaches WC, boxing, and BJJ take to training. So I'll send you a link when I do if thats something that interests ya.
You'll find out that wing chun, when applied correctly, will help your boxing dominate.
@@beausmoothy6574 sure, drop a link, that'd be dope
At least now we know wat all these kung fu and wing chun was all about
That cartoon of Mc. Nuggets in the back is pretty awesome!
These wing chun ones you keep finding are interesting as my first foray into martial arts was through wing chun. I loved it but I was fortunate to have chosen sifu Rick Spain to learn from. He is a fighter and a warrior always trying to improve, Having conquered the kung fu world of full contact no rule fighting in 1983 he went on to share the ring with kickboxing greats benny the jet and bill wallace, sought out stick and knife technique from indonesia, humbled himself to put away the red sash and replace it with a bjj white belt (it's black now) and kept evolving to include whatever proves effective in fight/sparring and discarding what what didn't. His master William Cheung (bruce lee's best mate expelled to australia when bruce was booted to the states) reckons teaching kung fu to westerners is better because they accept the hard work and humility while a lot of people that grew up in chinese culture just like to play make believe in a gym bubble that they are like the heroes in their favourite kung fu movies.
The difference in all these vids is simple, it's the difference between fighters and not fighters
Iron head technique
Traditional martial art teaches great theory. But theory sucks without practice.
‘’喝大了吧‘’ means 'is he drunk' or 'does he have too much to drink' nothing to do with body type, but I like how you think. '丑的也能打你’ was a reply to other guy who said the speed and strength can not make up for the ugly form. the ugly part is for the form not the guy himself. however, Chinese does like to judge people's appearance a lot.
I see 😇😇
I like the follow up ground and pound
The results are expected.
0:36 LOL
That second guy threw SO many punches but only like four of them hit. It's amazing. He's clearly never seen someone move their body or head before.
The second guy had the right idea when it came to using wing chun aggressively I mean you should do that with most kung fu styles I’ve seen it’s just from what I can tell they replace actual free sparring with chi sao which yes chi sao is good to practice every now and then so you can get a better handle on trapping but in the real world people aren’t gonna lock arms with you and stand their as they try to basically arm wrestle you FREE SPAR AND LEARN TO DISTANCE PROPERLY
And protect your face 😂
I'm actually not anti-chi sao, it seems like a really interesting exercise. But I have a feeling that chi sao does a good job of preparing you to defeat other wing chun guys almost exclusively.
@The Heretic well his bulk did kind of prevail, he survived for like 20 seconds, which may be a new record for wing chun
The Heretic i mean your not wrong that’s also why I’d also say to keep your hands up so you don’t just eat jabs and also to angle if your gonna be aggressive
2:12 Looks like he's tried to defend with Pak-Sao, which probably would have worked against a Wing Chun punch, which is much easier to deflect coming down the centre-line, but which clearly doesn't work nearly as well against a straight punch. Well, that's 1 (failed) Wing Chun technique I could see. After that he tried slapsies and straight-arm-pushies, which is more like toddler boxing 101 rather than Wing Chun. :)
The second guy at least used the Wing Chun principle of constant forward pressure, even if he was just a brawler.
That's partially true. Pak Sao works against all punches, but not if you force it to conform to one unrealistic motion, or if you don't have the experience to react to different punches.
The Pak Sao did not fail the fighter, but the fighter failed the Pak Sao. His form was sloppy and inaccurate. If you use a Pak Sao against a wider punch, you use it to stop the hit at the bicep. Boxers do this, it works, even if it gets named something else.
It doesn't matter what it's called. No one style gets to own anything about how the body works.
That cannot be a pak sao. His hand was inside and the straight was outside. The structure of his arm wouldnt even allow him to slap anymore.
@@SwordTune Good points, though I disagree slightly. *His* Pak-sao failed him, and that's a common problem with Wing Chun practitioners who do little or no training against anything but orthodox Wing Chun strikes. That said, against that straight punch (on further viewing, it' almost a haymaker) with the angles they had, I don't personally think Pak-Sao was ever a good idea, so I think it was always _likely_ to fail him.
@@florisvanlingen And yet he _tried_ to do a Pak-Sao, evidently.
The 2 WC guy can go fight in the bar but stay away from the ring
I know people have their own opinions based off what they've seen but it is still possible to make wing chun work. Just like any other martial art it takes the right training and mindset.
Don't worry, the people who make it work don't give a damn about idiots who think it doesn't work just because they watch untrained fighters get beat up.
If you understand boxing and understand wing Chun, you will wing Chun naturally present in high level boxing.
Why to polish a turd?
is it possible? I haven't seen any evidence to that effect.
elenchus just try to keep an open mind my friend
@@marcuswelch7335 My mind is open to the evidence.
I used wing Chun block in MMA and it is useful..I combined Boxing, Wrestling, Taekwondo, Muay Thai, Jiujitsu and wing Chun..
2cd dude reminds me of master wong for some reason
Ryan Dravinski 😂😂😂
It WAS master Wong! What a twist!
He can't fight?
I love how so many Wing Chun practitioners are coming out of the woodwork in the wake of MMA in China yet still can't manage to have a single victory against an MMA fighter. I am sure one will eventually emerge of an extremely bad MMA fighter losing to a Wing Chun veteran. I'm actually surprised that one hasn't shown up yet,
There's no such thing as a Wing Chun veteran.
@El Bottoo Silva just plays around with everything for a day here or there. Plenty of videos of him practicing aikido too. He just has fun with it, then goes back to boxing, kickboxing and BJJ for real fighting. He does have a lot of fun kung fu theatrics in the ring though when they're not exchanging shots.
El Bottoo , Anderson Silva never trained Wing Chun.
@@aluisiofsjr To be fair, he HAS trained wing chun before, but Silva will basically train anything for a few weeks. There's lots of video of him learning aikido too, but no one has suggested that because Anderson played around with aikido that aikido is now somehow UFC-viable.
Anderson's a really interesting guy, and perhaps more than any other elite fighter, he's embraced the MMA mentality. Almost all MMA guys have have a "core" or "base." Some guys do jiujitsu, some wrestling, some boxing, some Muay Thai, you get the idea. Anderson's actually said straight up he doesn't even like that notion, and doesn't want to have a core style, but rather, he wants to draw from every martial art (presumably including wing chun and aikido).
That said, according to Anderson, his styles are (in order): Muay Thai, BJJ, TKD and capoeira (so already we're seeing some interesting stuff mixed in, even according to Anderson).
elenchus , maybe Anderson Silva trained Wing Chun for a week or so, like he did for Capoeira and Aikido. Like I saw he using Capoeira (that I trained for 5 years), and I never saw a high level Capoeira from him, different from Marcus "Lelo" Aurelio that is one exception that still can use Capoeira in the MMA level (this is a rare feat).
I’ve taken a number of martial arts and many live in their own bubble of invincibility. I’m basically a kickboxer. I joined a martial arts school (not wing chun) to learn what they had to offer. They seemed to think I would be no match for any of them and wanted to prove it in sparring. They had no real boxing defense and I have fast hands so it was easy to slap them around. On one occasion, a higher belt student that I hadn’t seen before sucker front kicked me to the sternum and tried to hurt me because I embarrassed him. I thought I might have to go to the hospital. I later told another student that I was playing with that guy the last time but the next time I see him I’m going to show him what I can really do. The other guy never came back to class which is good because I really would have knocked him out.
As an ex Wing Chun "Master" and current MMA practitioner. I would like to add that WC/WT are very rigid systems, with a very inefficient base and defence. Those guys are not even using Wing Chun.
you should do an interview with FCB sometime
If the guy that had the pot belly &buggy whip arms did MMA he would have won
Or if he did boxing or kickboxing
Damn so these kung fu guys are delusional? The lack of composure from these guys makes me so sad that they teach this to people.
ruclips.net/video/2eOa5xaqXvg/видео.html mma fighter loses by no martial arts guys with a wood stick. Fuck this mma bullshit sport.
MMA is just a sport
Hey I've seen both Enter the Dragon and IP Man, so I guess I'm a Kung Fu master, too!
WC doesn’t work against opponents who are even slightly decent. The theory of intercepting attacks instead of blocking is a brilliant idea. However, WC is lacking and seems incomplete, at least for today’s world. I’m not even talking about how incomplete it is for MMA. I’m saying it’s incomplete even for standup only fights. In theory, a straight punch is the shortest distance to your opponent and should intercept their punches the quickest way possible. The thing is that a straight punch won’t stop my hook. I will take that straight or jab and you will eat my hook, then I will change angles. This is why WC doesn’t work.
I'm Chinese and I'm hurt you called me superficial. I'll subscibe anyway😁
not so much honor in TMA anymore it seems....yet they boast about it...
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sorry I thought they ganged up on him from the title
Heyy talking of skinny ones. Is there any chance that youre ever gonna commentate on atomweight fights? Many of these are women fighters so its kinda fun to watch hehe
If you ever go to the martial arts competitions you will see that technique goes out the window fast in the full contact fights and the winner is usually the one who has good stamina and doesnt mind taking a punch
The second guy really reminded me of chuck Liddell.....especially some of his later fights
He would've beat Liddell in his last fight....😏
@@Nightwolf866 that last fight was sad. You couldnt even tell he was Chuck. It's almost as if you couldve just pulled a person from the crowd and thrown him in the ring
I know taekwondo,judo,aikido,muay thai,mma,and boxing,all i can say mma is the real martial arts you can use in street fights.id try it many times
The iron face technique!!! LMAO!!!
I think wing Chun could be made combative with Muay Thai-like drills: combinations on pads (of punches, PALMS, elbows and kicks), mobility (side by side, stepping in and out, pivot, all in the WC way) , defence (blocking, dodging, taking punishment), cardio (skipping ropes, running, burpees etc), and sparring (serious and with gear). Traditional WC is not combative, I say this as a mixed martial artist who has been trained in WC, Muay Thai, TKD and more.
He had enough sense to use ground skills though gotta give em that 1st guy 0:34
Traditional martial artists are masters at making excuses these day.
I like the first guy's "little sister slap" technique!
There’s no defensive skill, no timing, no understanding distance, no balance and especially no technique and all of this has nothing to do with style. Finally it turns into a brawl.
Wing chun guys slap punch had me rolling
The first guy tried to use Wing Chun techniques and lost. The second guy (with a beer belly) showed no Wing Chun techniques at all, just swinging, and still lost.
Red guy who got his block knocked at the beginning did move into side control so he didn’t get totally wrecked
You get good at what you practice. If you never spar in the ring you'll get beaten. For some weird reason TMA rarely pressure test their styles.
That's the traditional side. They preserve the ideas of the martial art. It's up to fighters to apply it in practice. They should acknowledge that they know the style but cannot fight with it, and just let fighters use the style in a way that works.
@@SwordTune I totally agree. I have been practicing tai chi for 20+ years. I could hurt the average person. But I'd never put myself in a ring because frankly I'd get my shit pushed back in lol. The real issue here is the ego that some TMA guys carry around with them. It is delusional to think you can practice a non contact art and be able to fight better than arts that include full contact sparring. I'd have to train in a different way to be able to do that. TMA has its place but its embarrassing seeing these tools disgrace and discredit wonderful arts because they want to prove something.
@@joshpickles9022 it's like the difference between a first year medical resident a fifth year medical resident. One just came out of med school and has textbook knowledge. The other is a fifth year medical resident.
Even if one calls a glass chin an iron chin it does not change the fact that even average punch will shatter it. Will that make the fist that cracked this chin adamantium fist?
Well I was an amateur boxer from 87-95. Some guys have great chins and some don't. I had a granite chin and was never knocked down. I was stunned a couple of times but at 170 pounds I could spar with heavyweights and take their shots. I didn't like to but I could do it.
Hi, you speak chinese so well!! R u a chinese??
I had spar too much before using kung fu and it works pretty good
I hope I can come back and spar again
one thing ive notice with knockouts you put your head down while leaning to one side while simultaneously throwing a hook or overhand with your strong arm. this guy and the guy who just ko cody garbrandt did the same thing
Even a kid can beat those kung fu fools
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Nice
Wing Chun's strategy in every fight....use their face to block all the punches and kicks
Hello fellow fighting friends, try watching 'Prodigal Son'. it is exclusively about wing chun. oh and what about bones jones?? he's the champ and does wing chun. tony ferguson too. oh and robert downey jr is down with wing chun as well. joe rogan recently went back on what he thought about wing chun, mostly because of robert downey jr. bruce lee did wing chun, but then watered it down with jkd... thanks for making wing chun famous, uncle bruce. woppa!
Omffgggg. JKD is not watered down Wing Chun. That's like saying Conor McGregor mastered Aikido. The delivery of blows in JKD and WC are two different worlds. JKD mainly teaches boxing punches and taekwondo kicks. Bruce also borrowed from Judo.
@@i-v-l9335 please watch that movie. I know more about wing chun than b.lee ever will. Jkd is dilluted Wing Chun. Trust me. Everything anyone ever needs at anytime is in the Wing Chun process. It is just one small increment below a gun or power tool. Also, it can and is used in all aspects of daily life. Consciously or unconsciously, Wing Chun reveals itself to the trained eye.
I took Wing Chun when I was a kid. I didn't think the stance or movements were practical for fighting on the streets so I switched to boxing. Wing Chun has some good close quarter techniques though from what I've seen. It still wouldn't be my primary style.
The last sentence should be "Lets Laugh and Learn"
Damn, the second MMA guy kept going when the wing chun guy was out AF 😱😱😱
喝大了 just means you're drunk. Probably shortened of 喝大发了, rather than a reference to the beer belly.
Bilibili has the most adorable loading screen.
The MMA guy will be KOed by 1 punch in a movie, it he'll go flying because of the impact
Amen
Those Wing Chun guys must have been watching the entire Ip Man series way too many times.
Likely ;)
Wonder if all the bad rep Wing Chun is getting will affect ticket sales for Ip Man 4 new release?
That lady recording while holding a baby though
Where is the wing chung in this vid???
Check out video of Anderson Silva wing chun use in MMA Not pure but WC but heavily influenced and effective
If I get back in the gym today. Just a graze to the chin will knock me out. Lol
Didn't the first Wing Chun guy end up on top ? What happened?
Great fights! This should be a lesson for wing chun practioners, don't get into the ring without sparring with non-wing chun guys first.
Funny fact but in Polish big belly is literally called beer muscle ;)
that IS funny
Where is the Ving Tsun?
"Ah, that guy is skinny like me"
Yup same here, and I'm on my way to 40 lol
Great vid, but I just have one suggestion: please don't stop the video to make comments until the fight is over, wait at least ten seconds . . . ummm, never mind.
This video illustrates a perfect example of the “limitations” that Bruce Lee observed in traditional Wing Chun. All of the “fools” who talk about how Bruce Lee never “completed” his Wing Chun training would have gotten their asses handed to them by both Bruce Lee and most MMA fighters of today.