Tai Chi vs Wrestling Match At Xu Xiaodong Gym Leads To Tantrum Over The Rules
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Xu Xiaodong organized a Tai Chi vs Wrestling match at his Bili Tu gym on October 23rd, 2019 as part of 冬哥辣评. In this match, a Xu Xiaodong student took on a Tai Chi representative. The round was supposed to go two rounds. First round was pure grappling and second round would have been MMA rules. However, the match doesn't go to the second round due to a big argument over the rules. Xu Xiaodong then goes completely ham on the Tai Chi people. Let's see what happens. Whose side are you on in this event? Let us know. 冬哥，多谢您打假！
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Timecodes:
0:00 Tai Chi vs Wrestling match round 1
3:13 In between round shenanigans
4:24 Tai Chi complaining about rules
5:23 Xu Xiaodong gets angry
7:07 Slow motion replay
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Update (8/2/23): After extensive research, we found the Tai Chi Master. His online name is 唐老推 (Tang Ole Pushhands) and he's pretty known in the Chinese push hands community. So like many of you guessed all these years, Tang's experience is mostly in different styles of push hands (which have all these bizarre rules) making him unable to deal with more free-style wrestling.
Here's a timeline of events to the best of our understanding:
Xu vs Andy Pi - 2003 (Xu discovers BJJ and becomes a MMA fighter)
Xu vs Lei Lei - 4/27/2017 (First MMA vs Tai Chi match)
Xu cries after his social media's shut down and Shichahao (Xu's Sanda school) disowns him - May 2017
Tai Chi practitioners claiming to be from a Chen school try to intimidate Xu Xiaodong in a hotel - May 2017
Xu and Tai Chi Ma Baoguo Arrange Match - 6/26/2017 (Event stopped by authorities)
Xu vs Ding Hao - 3/18/2018 (Fight ruled a draw; Ding Hao says he wasn't given enough to eat)
Xu drives to Tai Chi Zhu Li Xiao's house to finalize rules for match after Zhu challenges him - April 2018 (match never happened)
Xu goes to Kickboxing gym to spar their best and gets hurt - Aug 2018
Lei Lei tries to test his newly acquired kickboxing skills (and fails miserably) - Nov 2018
Xu vs Tian Ye - January 2019 (Birdboxing fail)
Xu's social credit lowered - Early May 2019 (Due to court case with Chen Xiaowang)
Xu vs Lv Gang - Mid May 2019 (The first clown painting match)
Ding Hao rechallenges Xu - Mid 2019
Xu social credit back to normal after apologizing for seven days and paying fine to a Tai Chi Master - Mid 2019
Iron Palm master challenges Xu - Sept 2019 (not November like Wikipedia says)
Ding Hao takes on A Hu and gets KOed - Oct 2019
Lei Lei vs Tian Ye - Nov 2019 (Xu Xiaodong opponents match)
Xu vs Yuichiro - Nov 2019
Wu Tai Chi Master who challenged Xu earlier in 2019 runs away from fight and never heard again - Dec 2019
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Why are these kung fu guys so afraid to use their kung fu? Kung fu is good. I don't think they are serious about fighting. These people train as if kung fu was a hobby. You can tell. "Out of shape, no stamina, no control, no power, no awareness, and scared. You can tell they don't really train in kung fu. They play kung fu, like children play. This is depressing to see this happening".
The third takedown looked like a billy goat. Similar to a double, but with the forehead directly in the stomach. With the tail chi guy being so short though it was like a billy goat double ankle pick.
@@danielbaggett3424,
The only Kung Fu that works are Sanda and Shuai Jiao.
@Im wearing tights that I borrowed from your mum.,
Kung Fu means Chinese Martial Arts.
im interested in the culture but i gotta work on my chinese. what are the best books for learning chinese? whatever you say i will buy.
These guys are Masters of making excuses.
Maybe but the wrestler would of been knocked out already if he tried that move on a striker.
@@andresmiguel2573 it's a grappling match ofcourse he didn't move like the opponent will strike him he focused on grappling
@@andresmiguel2573 wtf? Its a wrestling match. Why would you consider striking? Dafuq
Traditional artists will make excuses for everything for sucking ass at defending themselves.
pepe hands Why would Tai Chi do wrestling? That’s dumb!
Wants a wrestling match
Rules: no wrestling take downs allowed
Ha hahaha. 🤓🤓
lmfao im fuckin ded this video is gold
push hands doesnt have the same rules as wrestling, and takedowns isnt the only move in wrestling.
“Whoever wants a challenge, come now!!! NOW!!!” - Xu 😱
The whole Tai Chi school (masters and students) started walking out the door. Then Xu smiled 😀!!! What a movie 🍿!!!
In real life though, those bitches harassed his family and him in public spaces
Jim Jones To me, Xu is a real hero.
When the whole nation is trying to beat you in every way, you kinda have to go with over the top attitude like that. Understandable.
As you wrote yourself when whole nation wants to beat you I want to see how emotional will you be. Xu may not fight for televised bouts without facepaint, that's how crazy censorship in China.
The powers that be are the ones making life miserable for him and his family. I'll bet that the Chinese people really like this outcast guttersnipe who is just letting everyone know that the emperor as no clothes.
I respect the fuck out of this guy for what he is trying to do and what he is up against.
Or maybe when you cant out skill an opponent so you have to go rough??!!
Thats the problem with these guys. You come in set rules for skill of an art... Its clear as night and day tai chi guy and tai chi is working.. But mma guy goes rough starts getting dirty angry and is beating the guy purely by being more atheletic lol.. Has nothing at all to do with the art itsself.. Its weird you brainwashed morons dont see that.. I do tai chi.. Screw wrestling lets stand.. Ill stand tai chi.. Ill beat them all.
This Tai Chi guy had some fundamentals at least. These Kung Fu guys would do much better publicly if they saw these matches as learning experiences to improve their Kung Fu rather than as a threat to their existence.
Mark S RIGHT THANK YOU
Agreed. Hell, I'm a kung fu particioner myself, and it pisses me off that all these "masters" are around with all this "fighting knowledge" but can't back it up. It reminds me of this quote:
"Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do" - Bruce Lee
@@TheScotchaholic That's a valid point, yet there are some TMA's out there that actually acknowledge the flaws of their respective style, then eventually evolve their style like Bruce did by discarding what's useless and absorbing what works.
@@javiersoriano671,
They are legit TCMA which is Sanda and Shuai Jiao.
@@lionsden4563 I've seen both styles before
Xu should be in charge of cobra kai
@@TentaclePentacle I wanna him yell at his student to "Sweep the leg" in mandarin! lol
@@TheScotchaholic , a lot of these "martial arts schools" both eastern and western, are like religious cults. It's funny as hell when they get a reality check! 🤣
Hell yes!
Haha thought the very same thing actually.
Fear does not exist in this dojo, does it?
Love the banner on the walls in the background: "Compete like a man, demonstrate the power of China" clearly this guy is not someone who is trying to bring down Chinese martial arts, but to put it back on the right rack and in synch with modern times!
ruclips.net/video/dTP16HPFMms/видео.html
@@cfG21 fake video lol
@ŇøHă Ģ. why?
@ŇøHă Ģ. And yet, he was still good enough to stop a taiji practitioner with ... how much experience did taiji man have? Years? Decades?
When a STUDENT from another style beats a "master" of your style, you really do have to stop and think.
ŇøHă Ģ. He even had time to edit his erroneous reply to you. People do not read carefully, and they often lose reason in their emotions.
As a fellow Chinese, I am so IMPRESSED by your suggestion! That's a freaking great idea!! I'd so watch Xiu Xiaodong in WWE. Can you imagine the title fight, WWE TRADE WAR!
Yeah. Would be an epic match!
@@FightCommentary Would love to have Stone Cold for talking smack with the Xiu Xiaodong!
@@TheJadekungfu Stone Cold is like, I'm a legend. Xu is like, I took on the entire Chinese government
We would need a corporate bastard trying to impress chinese investors, a chiken heel would work the best.
The Miz in his hollywood superstar role would work the best, plus he is small enough to make Xiu look intimidating
This needs to happen.
In consequence, the fight has been proven that fitness is very important regardless of what martial art u are learning.
Not just fitness bro..
Fitness + Mma training + fight IQ + fight experience.
@@ameerulaqmalmalek9470 that's 100% but above all this is weight class lol
@@MonkeyEngjell
Yeah.. Weight class too
but any of the moves the tai chi guy used weren't tai chi. he just learned grabling from something else. So it proves nothing for tai chi regardless.
Sean you are so right
If your martial art, can't keep you fit, or healthy...maybe... just maybe you should stop doing it...
This is it! the one true logic all the bullshido forgets
Say that to Roy "Big Country" Nelson.
Ross Enamait said, train the body, the mind will follow.
@@temoherbertlopez6019 there's a fit/trained fat and the unhealthy fat the taichi dude is deffinitly an unhealthy fat
@@temoherbertlopez6019 Roy Nelson is fat true, but unlike this guy, Roy has actually very good stamina for his weight class. That Bullshido master was tired after two minutes of sparring.
And by the way, Roy has a negative MMA record so I don't get why people are constantly bringing him up.
So no slams and then he wants no single or doubles. Basically just hug eachother to the ground is what the taichi guy wants.
Taichi guy should have just started by saying its a sumo match.
Hahahahaha!
Ikr those are like... the most fundamental wrestling moves. This is just depressing.
Don't forget that it was also no strikes. So he wanted no strikes, slams, single or double leg take downs. Simply put he wanted no strategy at all so his larger size could do the work.
Except that slams, open hand strikes, and modified singles/doubles are allowed in sumo
Let's be honest, the guy prolly wanted pushyhands BS.
"I can't win because this guy is actually fighting and using all these movies my style is functionally useless against. You have to make him stop using those so I can prove how functional my style is!"
Lololol
I don't get why the Tai Chi guy is complaining about the single/double leg take downs. This is WRESTLING vs TC right? Has TC Guy never watched a single Olympic wrestling match? Not even during the games in Beijing? It's like telling a boxer he isn't allowed to jab or use head movement.
OH WAIT I get it! TC Guy is used to doing his thing on willing and compliant participants. Not against an actual opponent. Not even if the wrestler has so so technique. Paper techniques against paper opponents.
Hell, single and double leg takedowns was the first damn thing we learned in wrestling in school.
@@Zaprozhan and it's not like it's an alien concept to the Chinese, it's common in Shuai Jiao (kinda like Chinese judo/wrestling), but these taiji guys are very cultish and refuse to learn anything outside their system
Not allowed to use wrestling against TC in wrestling match.🥴
@@johnbravo1034 haha
"I dont get why low blows are forbidden in most martial arts disciplines. Do these people not understand the concept of combat? You're supposed to use the most efficient attack, that's how you win.
OH WAIT I get it! these martial arts practitioners are used to doing their thing on willing and compliant participants. Not against an actual opponent. Not even if the low blow-er has so so technique. Paper techniques agaisnt paper opponents."
bait or zero understanding of what martial arts is, call it
This is fairly typical of what happens in traditional Chinese martial arts. The need to save face and not be embarrassed trumps everything so as soon as they start losing, they start changing the rules. I’ve seen it happen elsewhere as well.
How can you save face when your face is beat up.
Scott Imo it happens all the time. But, it requires the cooperation of people around you. They’ll pretend that something didn’t happen, or it was am accident, or a misunderstanding of the rules. They’ll say anything. It’s really weird but this shit happens in many Asian countries.
Well Xu is awesome, more people need to be like him.
It's like a child changing the rules lmao
@@leothevirgo3375 that’s a simple way of explaining it.
If ur style can’t even handle the single or double leg takedown then u should rethink it
You mean Muay Thai and Boxing?
@@m5a1stuart83 what you talking about?
@@feilox I dont think Muay Thai or Boxing can handle double or single leg take down. Which mean he/we should rethink it.
@@m5a1stuart83 You realize every single or double leg takedown you're open to a hook punch to the nose or a headlock? Muay Thai fighters are more in tune to wrestling moves from learning about the clinch than kung fu fighters to boxing.
@@feilox I dont think Muay Thai capable of defeating Wrestler or BJJ Blackbelt under MMA Rules
I swear, you could challenge them to a street fight and they’ll still claim you cheated
I recon he would have kept trying but he was just exhausted. All belly, no stamina
It's disrespectful to attack tma master's belly.. Because that's where their bullshido chi are😁
how come they dont test the chen family instead of a buncho of no name tai chi stylists ruclips.net/video/dTP16HPFMms/видео.html
cfG21 because they are supposed to expose frauds not legit people
@@ilitardo160
How convinient,
and how opportunistic.
@@cfG21 he wanted to expose the fake master, he knows the real one
Actually knee to the belly was a dick move.
They're just moving the goal posts. Next they'd say, "You can't grab me at all, please just let me win."
L A M E
The passion is strong in this man. Nice vid. Never heard of this guy but so glad I found your channel.
I absolutely love this guy and his conviction toward some of the snake oil salesmen of martial arts!!! Good video as usual my guy, PLEASE keep covering this particular subject!!!!!
Tai chi guy:
"Hey! He's not allowed to do knee on chest... or single-leg takedowns... or anything else that makes it harder for me and my 'bigger belly chi power' to win at this match! But I am definitely allowed to complain and make excuses nonstop!"
yeah, I thought I was clear, there is absolutely no wrestling allowed in my wrestling matches
Which is stupid, because Tai Chi HAS Knee on stomach/rib types of controls and finishes.
@@VanishingNomad Show us. Sounds like bullshit .
don't like the rules, dont fight. not familiar with the rules, don't fight. stop whining about other people making excuses. it's that simple.
The wrestler's hair reminds me of Khabid's hat he wears during his walk outs, and his wearing a Khabid shirt too.
his name is kabob
@@jackssmirkingrevenge9365 his first name is shis
love these videos bro
Man someone give Xiao Dong some citrus tea or something. I cringe for his throat with all that yelling.
“A man confronts you he is the enemy, we do not show mercy to the enemy, what is the problem Mr Lawrence”
An enemy deserves no mercy, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM MR.LAWRENCE
PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG....YAAAHHHH!!!!
@@funhole26 you're a cream puff Johnny
@@snazdogdbfan251 lmao
You can only attack me in the way my martial arts simulates attacks.
I swear, Xu is like a real life Northern challenger from Ip Man.
When he joins the WWE he should be "The Raging Dragon!"
Crouching Panda, Raging Dragon
@@FightCommentary The Screaming Panda?
@@kosal00111 Raging Panda, Screaming Dragon
Going alphabetical sounds better.
Or Crouching Panda, Yelling Dragon
But I like your "Screaming Panda" name too.
@@FightCommentary Anything to do with Panda sounds good. LOL
Nah cmon it'll be Screaming Melon
Tai Chi master or Tsingtao drinker?
Im dead 🤣
Hehe
Lmao u made my day
U guys certainly been to China, but as far as I know, those Beijingers they drink Yanjing instead of Tsingtao. And that belly is full of crap not Tsingtao or Yanjing.
tsingtao poster man.
I've largely seen Tai Chi masters as being very thin lol
So awesome man..i use to wrestle in high school..varsity ..even i don't practice that anymore i still remember those moves. Thanks for the video
-good work on your commentary man, keep up the awesome work 💪
A knee on belly and they forfeit? Are you friggin kidding me?
My first tkd master always said a big belly was like armor against strikes 😂. But then again, maybe he is Chinese King Hippo.
well come on, you can't expect there to be pins in a wrestling match, how fair would that be. Everyone knows that the wrestling match stops as soon as someone gets taken down and resets.
Tbh if I lose grappling 0 - 3 id give every excuse I can to avoid participating further
well you heard it, that's where all his chi is
@@de0509 that's no fun, if you manage to get 1 - 3 out of that it's so satisfying
did those tai chi guys just come to xu's gym without any appointment? if this sparring was arranged days ago they should talked about the rules already but they seems unclear about the rules and the judge is doing nothing
I love xu, you can't deny that he's on a righteous mission.
I was looking around for someone with a neon belly
I got one
AHAAHAHAHA
The MMA guy obviously didn’t do any damage with that knee on belly move. He was just making a point.
Tai Chi guys are just cry babies,like Xu said to them,if you are too scare to fight just leave
Love your commentary!
I think Tai Chi guy did surprisingly well against a much younger and much fitter opponent. Didn't look look like a bullshido woo-woo practitioner, was simply outmatched and the young guy was pretty aggressive, whereas it was clear that the Tai Chi guy looking for gentlemanly sparring. He had stance stability, he moved well. If anything it gives me renewed respect for Tai Chi - I mean, you got calisthenics for general health that lets you hang in there with a trained MMA fighter? Hell, I'm all for it!
Nothing but respect for Xiadong. He’s doing what many should have done long ago.
Xu cutting a vicious promo!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’ve never loled so damn hard in my life! Your commentary really made it better omfg I can’t breathe
BTW, we're going to upload a Xu Xiaodong interview on our new podcast channel!
You're doing great....keep up the good work..👍
That Khabib shirt foreshadowed so much lmao
Xu is a great showman,hilarious.
Taiji guy did ok considering he is out of shape and older. He tried and i respect that. Unfortunately the constant presure made him tense up thus loosing his song and root. This is a good example of why taiji needs to constantly presure test like it did 120 years ago. Its easy to gain song and root in your taiji class if you practice but it is totally different trying to do it under constant attack from an opponent with different skills/style. Only when you have mastered this can you really be able to start taijiquan boxing, until then you are really just learning taiji and are not ready to fight. I think taiji people that seriously want to fight should regularly visit or join bjj,muay thai and mma schools to experience their skill set , learn and test their own skill seeing what they can pull off. This gives them a better understanding of their art and at what level they really are. This is what some of the taiji guys i trained with in thailand did regularly. It also built great freindship and respect amongst the instructors and students of the different styles.
External to internal. Internal to external.
Former wrestler here. You could tell he had position for some throws and wasn't using them. It's why he elected for a simple push when he was on the side and was under the other guy's center of gravity.
As the taller guy, it's all about the sprawl and the arm drag. Once in a while you can throw a guy either in a bodylock (suplex) or head & arm, but 90% of stuff I did was keeping the other guy away by sprawling or defending / trying get the head or arm. Of course, I knew the single-leg, double-leg, & fireman's, but catching someone shorter who's the same weight class in them is tough.
I did TKD in college; fun and you learn some neat stuff but it's all about points. I got attacked on the street and I wrestled.
I've always been interested in martial arts from when I was a kid; took a class called "basic martial arts" which was mostly judo before I wrestled in HS.
Friend of mine showed me some mu thai; I put it together some with other stuff I picked up. Tried kung fu, but, aside from the weapons training, the most effective part was sparring. Sifu's demonstrating some complicated thing and I automatically turn my elbow and he says "you've had training". Well, yeah...a lot of TMA's are pretty techniques that work against people who know absolutely nothing, and nobody else...
I think I want to see what BJJ is all about, but I'm closer to 50 than 40 now.
Whoever is the guy commentating, I'm laughing so hard. You are doing really good commentary on the fight. Keep it up!
I live under one of those big plastic things made to look like a rock. Does that count?
That's deep!
@@FightCommentary lol!
Xu xiadong is literally what all those frauds are pretending to be, a fight school master like from those old kung fu movies. Like in real life. Wise, charismatic, dedicated, and just worth endless film scripts in drama.
how is he wise? where's his inner peace? he's a combat sports jockstrap, not a master. Nor will he ever spar with a real master -- such as the ones at the Shoalin Temple -- because he would lose.
@@neutrino78x bro He World steamrole any kunfu praktikant
@@metesmith8240 Not Xei Wei, who studied at the Shaolin Temple for 4 years (he is not a Shaolin priest). He's been cleaning up in MMA, look him up. He definitely proves that Kung Fu is not bullshido. XXD is just a bully, he doesn't spar people who would win.
Just remember two people sparring doesn't prove anything about any style. It proves one individual was better than another individual at that time. By that logic, if you ever lose a match in Red Neck Fu, it means you should stop practicing Red Neck Fu (bjj).
He's a thug who does nothing but beats down defenseless old men. I understand he was exposing fake martial arts, more power to that. But there are other ways to do it. He's nothing but a bully who deserved everything the Chinese Government gave him.
Funnily enough , When I watch these Xu Xiaodong videos, It's like I'm watching a kung fu film, Except he has the real skills to back it up!
The way he shouts at anyone to challenge him is great!
He also reminds me of those Chinese generals rallying their troops in historic films!
where is the tai qi?? seriously, loving Xu Xiaodong's flair for the dramatic. someone should hire him to be in movies (or WWE as the OP says).
The moment I need the rules to somehow save me is the moment I realize that I am the weaker fighter
The problem with Push Hands is that when doing it, there's a lot of instances where you let up on pressure follow specific rules of the "sport." You're not allowed to use excessive force. In a scenario where you have to use it in self defense, I doubt you're brain is gonna switch from passive to aggressive just like that.. It has great concepts that can be "APPLIED" in actual combat, but that's exactly what MMA stands for. Taking what works and making it your own. I hope the Chinese community understands this. This was a message that Bruce Lee tried to teach the world..
I've tried it out myself and I understand that there are tons of rules and restrictions. The most apparent being no touching of the lower body. In short.. IT'S A SPORT!!
Also, in this moment 6:36 you can tell he's proud of his guys. When your coach or master backs you up, it's always a very great feeling. I really hope that kid who sparred doesn't get barraged by hate.
It's like Gracie challenge but with social media and HD cameras EVERYWHERE. What a time to be alive.
Nice one. Thanks! Although I confess that instead of "knee on belly" I kept hearing "neon belly", which had me greatly puzzled for some seconds. What's neon belly and why doesn't the Taiji guy like it? Hahahaha.
This is like in the old-school kung fu movies where the rival master pulls down the sign outside the school and breaks it on the floor ;-) Traditional vs modern MA is really a thing here. I was brought up in martial arts in the 80's and early 90's, the era of ninjas giving way to mixed martial arts and the advent of wider knowledge of grappling. To see this level of anger and vehemence in these TMA vs MMA bouts really brings me back to my first wake-up moments.
When the Tai Chi clowns couldn't hamstring them with added rules they just hung on to the "oooohhhh knee on belly" excuse.
Yo , the bill burr and max kellerman of chinese fight commentary, big fan, how did XXD get youtube in china? isnt it blocked
It's blocked, and even VPNs are blocked, but Xu (likely) has friends in high places (who silently support him), so he gets access to VPN.
Coool beans!
This is great, but how come I can;t watch the actual video on his channel? it's weird.
Dojo Jersey Shore
The rule the MMA guy broke was exercising and training in a better style before the fight.
I love this guy so much. Wow he's so freaken cool. Played thier games, got his younger and under weight student to go and he does awesome.
tyx for the content it's the only one here in youtube who translated the dialogue
That guy's a maniac..!! I Love It..!! 👍🔥
I swear to god Xu Xiao Dong almost went super saiyan..
I like how you said he has this many subscribers almost just as much as us while we are also subscribe to him too..
What Tai chi belly man using any Tai chi? If so which moves were taichi?
im sure during old chinese times, there were alot of rules on the battlefield hmm?
I think Kung Fu Master needs a bigger T-Shirt
Wheres his gym i want to visit him? Mostly photo op no fight commentary video reel lol
It’s called bilitu
Enough of Xu Xiaodong's tantrum? I want more!
does he make you wet when he screams?
Tai Chi guy looks like he's in his 50s!!!
I think that's about right.
The traditional schools should realize that this is a learning opportunity, not get all butt hurt and make excuses.
There is hardly any "traditional schools", just a bunch of fat asses trying to make money off "martial arts". Just like soccer, no one cares about sports that doesn't generate money, but as soon as they do, they become ways to launder money
Can you cover Xu's latest vid? Wang Zhanjun, the first person to fight fake boxing in China
The best thing is Xu constantly holding his happy meal stopwatch into the camera.
That wasn't knee on belly, that was a teabag.
Hahahaha!
1: Kung fu guys are often talking about how MMA only works under special rules but not in da streetz. But here we see them again begging for hyper-restrictive rules.
2: Wrestling match, so no submissions, fine. But wrestling match so no pins? Yeah, no. Get over the knee on belly, it's perfectly within the boundaries of wrestling.
3: Attempted to ban wrestling in the wrestling match by forbidding single and double leg takedowns ad hoc. This actually is fine for some kinds of wrestling, but if you want to go Greco-Roman, you have to specify that up front. Don't do it only after you realize that you're getting beaten.
4: We always hear how MMA guys in China only fight smaller guys. This guy has at least 50 lbs on his MMA opponent and still got annihilated.
5: Despite this being a tai chi fighter vs MMA fighter match, MMA was banned. All of this person's training in Muay Thai, kickboxing, boxing and jiujitsu was forbidden, and a lot of his wrestling, restricting him to less than 20% of his potential skillset, while he had to fight specifically in his opponent's niche. Don't get me wrong, that's your problem if you accept the fight, it's just worth noting that that, in terms of rules, the MMA fighter was much more restricted than the taiji fighter.
The double leg, by the way, was ryo ashi dori, one of my absolute favorites. Most MMA and BJJ guys won't use it because if your opponent can hang on, they can drag you into their guard, but it's super high percentage.
maybe he thought it was sumo rules cuz that's sort of how it looked lol .... But from TC guy's attitude, he would have said push hands was against the rules if he lost!
@@dweez05 I think Chen tai chi guys have something very, very roughly akin to Greco-Roman wrestling without the pins. I can't say for certain without (A) knowing Mandarin and (B) hearing the pre-game, but my best guess is that the Tai Chi guy demanded a wrestling match and just assumed it would conform to tai chi's super restrictive kind of wrestling. To an MMA guy, wrestling means either folkstyle (most likely) or freestyle (sometimes), not tai chi, so they would not have been on the same page.
@@elenchus from the moment the FIRST single leg takedown was attempted, TCG should have realized, hey... what rules are we going by here? and then stopped the match to clarify the rules once and for all. He acts like he's never seen a single freestlye or greco roman match even though this major international event called the 2008 Olympics was held in Beijing and proudly broadcast to their people. I find it unbelievable that he has never seen not only that, but never seen any fight videos on social media exhibiting the critical ground skills that dominate almost every fight. Because somehow, this guy said to himself that he wanted to get in the ring to challenge someone.
@@dweez05 That's a good point. It seems like he was ok with freestyle/folkstyle takedowns until he realized he couldn't deal with them and then he went to the ref for help.
@@elenchus yes, I did some chen style wrestling but the rule was that you could not go for the legs, and you cannot even grab your own hand, so it was more like a limited greco-roman wrestling. The taiji guy was seemingly not understanding the rules. Also, he was so out of shape, I have absolutely no idea why they sent this guy when they have a bunch of fit ones.
I love xu's energy throughout the video
I came back to watch this again. So funny. Wish I commentated with you.
If tai chi guy was more athletic hed probably have done much better
He wasn’t terrible but he was old and fat.
I grew up doing TM and started to really question it when I realized everyone teaching me was either weak and/or out of shape.
Combat requires athleticism
he'd have done a lot better if he learned wrestling
Godammmit, Xiaodong, GODDUMMIT
The Taichi guy can be good or decent if he wants to do these Hardcore Catch/Pro Wrestling Stamina
Complaining and quiting about a Knee on belly? lol?
I didnt realize you had a fighting recuew channel
Where can I go to sign up for this gym
This's not fair guys !! Tai Chi master forgot to wear super power pajamas
Draw
Hahahaha
Awesome video! I laughed my ass off 😂👍🏻. XU IS DA MAN!
Xu Xiaodong shouting reminded me of the Dynasty Wars type chinese films, the badass General rallying the troops 🤣
Awwww!! But knee on belly or chest is my favorite thing to do.
Xu's channel is totally standing on the shoulders of FCB
Xu is one scary dude. His student is scary too. I’ll stay here in my house in IL, so I don’t run into him on the street.
For the longest I thought you were saying "Neon Belly" and I was like "wtf is that some kind of technique?"
Tai chi = worse yoga. Change my mind
Why should we, when we all agree
Yoga is just better, it also doesn't try to pass itself as a martial arts.
Random GuitarGuy lmaoooo I didn’t think abt that
Tai Chi, Xing-i, Ba Gua all have value if you actually cross train in other martial arts and learn to spar. I believe innovators like Bruce Lee probably were into some of the more esoteric practices of chi kung and meditation, and could be partly why he was so freakishly strong and fast.
yoga isn't even a fighting style, its more of a conditioning for the body, good to improve your flexibility. taichi on the other hand is just a dance. not sure if it is a real fighting style in ancient times, but in the modern day, it is a slow dance for old people
The tai chi guy looks as old as me = 50+ but the mma dude look under 30 hmmm..... once again this dude picks on a old yoga teacher n beats them up... so what i say is ... pick on someone u own age n someone who has been trained 2 really kick ass.. not a aerobics coach....
So how did the sticky hands technique work out for you Tai Chi dude?
I need to learn Chinese as there ain't any subtitles on his channel!
Why do Kung Fu masters always have Pot Bellies...
Too much yum cha
I've seen some tai chi vs judo where tai chi did good actually
Tai Chi is under rated. I've experienced good Tai Chi.
@@francoisnel5253 Tai Chi is bullshit!
@@fredbohm4728 Recently our number one commentator here just tested Tai chi. Go to the video " Jerry Liu pulls guard on me in fixed step push hands, Jan Lucanus sport Tai chi push hands".
@@charlesbetancourt7337 Tested? What a load of bullshit! A useless demonstration of Tai Chi on a compliant, non-resisting person.
They should do a sequel, but this time at Tai Chi side's gym.
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