A Group of Tai Chi Guys Try To Intimidate Xu Xiaodong MMA
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2018
- This is a seminal event in Xu Xiaodong's journey with the Tai Chi community in China. Tai Chi guys of the Chen lineage want to give Xu Xiaodong (徐晓冬) a piece of their mind. In this clip from mid-2017, a group of Chen-style Tai Chi guys (the title says 8, 7 guys and one gal) stop Xu Xiaodong in a hotel and refuse to let him leave until he admits he's a fraud. The video clip shows absolutely horrible non-martial-artist behavior. As much as this channel in 2018 was not a fan of how Xu Xiaodong went about his way of exposing frauds, these "traditional martial arts" practitioners showed very non-professionalism too. Leave a comment below on what you think. Also, Xu Xiaodong talked about this incident here: • Xu Xiaodong vs Tai Chi...
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Note: this event likely happened in May of 2017 according to subsequent research
Here’s what happened after the police arrived: ruclips.net/video/Dp38WFfpOR8/видео.html
Here’s one of the Tai Chi guys being interviewed: ruclips.net/video/8v3Sxi_t3vg/видео.html
A playlist on Xu Xiaodong coverage: ruclips.net/video/AFMz6yv0nHA/видео.html
Here is the latest Xu Xiaodong fight that happened in January of 2019. Xu Xiaodong (MMA) vs Tian Ye (Kung Fu). Enjoy the commentary: ruclips.net/video/4x4VTjbZtKc/видео.html
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Xu xuaodong should fight with master wong. The famous master on RUclips, that would be an epic fight
@Ken Marko such great experienced kungfu fighters trying to fight 8 on 2. Okay lol
These are paid actors. But their acting isn't that bad, though.
These Tai Chi guys are students of some Tai Chi master and they also fight in sanda. Xu only fights fake kungfu master and Sanda is not fake.
@Ken Marko idiot he beat the ass out of those master so called master you cant be a master or an amateur if your just a keyboard warrior
The person that should be sued is the guy who filmed the video in portrait mode.
😎😎😎
Worse
Landscape always! Portrait mode shouldn't even be an option.
Geez, portrait mode is like looking through a cardboard tube for crying out loud. Hey camera guy is giving a press conference?! Why not draw a curtain in front of the speakers kiosk so the press can see 1/4 of the speaker.
@GenesisGems Because they're gay...😒
The more I observe Chinese martial arts, the more I notice how all that "grace, honor, respect, etc." fluff is all for show.
It depends on who
Errr in a real fight there is no grace nor honor. Tell that to the billions that died in wars for the past thousand years.
Martial arts now are just exercises that empowers individuals’ self beliefs.
Thinking yourself as being invincible like in the movies is just delusional.
Oh and many vs 1 fights, many will win. Stop watching glorified protagonist movies and thought its similar in RL.
It’s all bullshit
"Mo duk" is mostly for peers in a formal or semi-formal setting. I've been in this thing for a good minute and in private conversations alot of well known "good guys" have rough mouths and tough attitudes. No harm, no foul and I'm not sure "keeping it real" is a good business practice.
Honor is from japan. Gambling is for chinese
He did the right thing by asking for there master, he just shamed the master and made them look weak that the master sent his students lol.
Look like he was afraid of the guy
Their*
@@stealthghostbr1801 He said "If your master sends you, I'll fight you." He's not gonna fight a gang of people in public that could have knives. Mainland Chinese have a habit of suddenly all having weapons in their hands if you get in a fight with one of them. Fighting them in the hotel lobby would have been very stupid.
@@stealthghostbr1801 i can almost promise he wouldve gotten stabbed
Xiaodong is not a bad guy. Everyone in Chinese fighting has turned on him. It's really sad that the future of fighting is not being embraced in what was one of the most advanced fighting nation's at one time. I guess people hate to admit they are wrong.
yeah man. they been learning their arts to a point of cultist behavious. Its been passed down for hundreds of years and they always kept it original and doesnt want to change or improvise which is why its not that useful anymore in my opinion. But anyways, its sad to see this. They wanna believe their style is like in the movies.
@@fteambjj your right and now that real fighting is mainstream it's showing the truth.
He’s kinda of an ass tho haha
@@Khaliljt he says it like it is. That's not being as ass, it's being real.:)
@@jacobari6371
What are you on about.
Reality just visited him and he ran away.
lool only in China would a bunch of "kung-fu" toughs surround you and demand a battle...only in China would you reply..." go get your master"..
I wanna go to China.
Its like a scene in a 70s kungfu movies .. "i hate you,you kill my master" 😂
@@nazliuz and out of sync audio.
Teuku Nazli kurniawan I was just about to say that
@@nazliuz
Thats why I want to go, where the funky vs. Music plays and every move has that "foom,foom,foom" sound.
"Damn you, you wanna fight huh, fight me...WAAAA!!!"
You sure they aren't actually Chai Tea practitioners? It's an easy mistake to make.
seems like they was more suited to make a cup of tea
It's called humor, Short Bus.
Hahahaha, that was a good one lol. (x
Hahahahaha that is good.
excellent work sir!
As soon as you show up with 7 on 1 or even 4-5 on 1,you know you are cowards.
6 on one is cool though.
Grannvale Flame Emperor so no 2v2, 3v3, etc allowed?
Grannvale Flame Emperor cause those fights are cool
Fratbois in a nuttshell
Nah, seems he was challenging a 1v1 puma guy was. The others were just gonna watch.
So impressive how brave you can be when you are in a gang facing one person
It's amazing how hopeless a mixed martial artist is when confronted by MULTIPLE threats from all directions.
@@billy_mandalay. Sorry to inform you but the movies you watch in theaters and Tv are not real, in reality anyone have almost no chance to win agaisnt multiple oponents. The most trained fighter ever can face two or three, Eight guys is outside of the realm of human capabilities.
That said, the MMA stood his ground with dignity, the so called Tai chi or Kung fu masters would have shitted their pants and go crying for the police.
@@Asterion608 You make a very good point but I'd argue that one fighter could potentially beat as many people as his stamina would allow. While this principle would only hold true at the most perfect chokepoint there's still a lesson to be learned about placement and awareness. As long as you don't get surrounded you have a chance of getting away and if you show that you still have plenty of fight in you most people will be hesitant to just rush in. Winning on the street is not about being the last to barely manage to stay upright, it's about making it home safely - Combat is neither fair nor absolute, human nature would rather prod at the enemy force with several metre long pointy sticks or rifle barrels snugly hidden in walls shooting a few rounds before disappearing back into obscurity than commit to an all out assault.
@@billy_mandalay. You have never been in a fight other than your own imagination.
@@billy_mandalay. Also, it's not the martial art, it's the individual and how he uses that martial art, yes there are videos of boxers and MMA guys fighting multiple attackers and win but it's rare, just as most kungfu guys couldn't.
Actually the boxers stand the best chance ( I'm not a boxer but I train with them, I'm mma), kungfu is frame by frame not actual transitions unless you have trained transition. Fighting multiple attackers really only works in movies, you may take out 1 perhaps 2 before you get a boot party.
Even the guys at fight science Wing Chung Academy train in regular boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, and Japanese jiujitsu.
They are arguably 1 of the better kungfu people online and will explain to you why certain things dont work, most fights boil down to boxing, grappling, and wrestling.
If you ever had been in any street fights or prison fights you'd know this, that's why things like bong sao don't really work outside kungfu but say combined with mma, etc... its deadly effective, so much so I added it to my ground and pound repertoire yesterday as we discovered by accident it works in that particular spot.
Before communist China martial arts where very different, it was more like mma mixing sancho, shoot wrestling, and their own version of grappling. After the Communists too power, they didnt want people being human weapons so they changed it to focus on ascetics vs functionality.
If you study mma you soon realize how those pretty moves are actually used. An example is the center line fingers to the throat, as a throat strike its useless, my chin is tucked and you'll never get a chance to use it but let's change that to swimming and pummeling and bam now you see what it is actually used for. It's used to set your hooks in a clinch situation.
Kungfu isn't useless, it's being trained wrong, and that is the fault of traditionalists, martial arts is always fluid, people traveled people see a new move they like they add it in, do you think that Bagua looked like it does now 700 years ago when they where protecting the silk road? They wouldn't even know what these guys are doing.
I can write endlessly on this subject but I'll end here.
Conclusive proof that Taichi guys know they cannot win one-on-one
Exactly.
Also proves MMA cannot take on multiples.
BILLY MANDALAY These people do nothing but involve themselves in sporting competitions. They know they do not have to fear death in these arenas. It’s not real as none of these people use everything available to them as they are restricted. They also all lack respect and self discipline and the biggest fight a person has is internal not external.
DLWidowmaker Martial arts is the art of survival. This can take many forms which aren’t all physical. He took on the 7 aggressors by leaving. At all times in a conflict situation there are many options available to you. He took the path of least resistance which demonstrated a level of self discipline unlike the Thi Chi guys who are clearly practicing for all the wrong reasons as they have allowed their ego to overshadow self discipline and respect.
Multiple threats? Ain’t no man out there fighting 7 or even 2 on 1. Once you do you’re a bitch. Looks like he ain’t scared of bitches does he look scared to you? Drink up your chai tea and shut the fuck up and try to fight for once.
They should use their TaiChi to relax and calm down
absolutely...
Best comment 😁
Agree
what you talking about, they don't even know that way of life lol, can't expect aggressive fraudsters to do more than merely pretending the peace
The only thing tai chi is good for and they cant even do it properly ahaha
lmao fight me right now... with 6 of my buddies backing me up in case shit goes wrong.
Nobody said it was 6 against 1.
Stop that nonsensical assumption.
He was challenged to set a contest, for real.
He made the excuse to cop out
by asking for their instructor.
Nobody was asking him to take on a gang.
@@billy_mandalay. then why were they all there? Why were they all standing around him?
@@billy_mandalay. I keep seeing you defend these tools while insulting Xu, so I will just assume you're another Tai Chi pant load who is desperately in denial that your bullshit "art" is absolutely useless, or you just watch a lot of shitty kung fu movies and think it's all real. Either way, you're wrong.
@@billy_mandalay. It is obvious you dont understand body language.
@@Slappaccino No, he is a troll with a pathetic need for attention. They always do this. If it does not work he start playing the racist card.
What bruce lee had to dealt with back in the day...every single day.....everytime bruce beat them...
maximus decimus exactly finally someone says it they never gave a fuck about him because he was Chinese, American and German and he was outcasted because he went to America to study other martial arts they only care now because he’s dead and obviously he’s known all over the world and they try to cover it up
Bruce Lee never went about like this punk, challenging elders.
He did speak arrogantly and HE was the one that was challenged.
He did not make excuses
and backed down like this guy.
Why did this guy back down ?
It wasn't as if they expected him to fight 7 guys all at once.
When pressed, Bruce
'fixed the problem'.
He ended punk
challenges fast.
He was not looking for challenges like this MMA punk.
He hated real unnecessary confrontations,
because they were STUPID.
👉 Perhaps having a wife and two kids wised him up. ✔
@@billy_mandalay. there is a legit answer to why he backed down, it's literally because of the law. Have you seen the articles about xu xiaodong recently? Chinese government has given him the minimum social credit rating because of what he's doing to "disrespect" traditional martial arts. If he takes the bait and goes and fights some people in a fucking hotel (a literal street fight) then he would literally just get thrown in jail.
This is not the age of bruce lee. There are cameras everywhere. You can't just fight people and run away and never hear about it again in 2019. The only place where Xu can legally fight is in the cage, with a referee.
Also, Xu doesn't even claim to be an amazing MMA fighter. his claim is simply that traditional martial arts are next to useless, and even with sloppy MMA he can destroy the so called "masters" who get paid to scam people into thinking they can fight. Should he just fight a 1v1 from some random pack of tai chi guys who confront him in a hotel? Maybe if he does come out on top he'll get jumped by the rest of the pack, then get arrested by the police officers watching nearby. Very smart
@@bbyy4672 thats kinda scary
And they idolise him, rightly so, but reject a guy teaching the same thing.
How to win using tai chi: out number your opponent 7 to 1 and behave like thugs.
They'll still lose if they use Tai chi. The only way 7 of them could beat Xu is if they all piled into him and fought bare instinct.
He would probably fuck up 7 of them if he got lucky but wait even Khabib will go down determined to kill him 7 man.
He has to knock out two of them really fast.
This is how asians fight. They like to outnumber their opponents. There is no such thing as one on one fights in China. One on one is just for the movies and sports fighting
Not asians its chinese only.
tai chi masters be like.. "i challenge you to a fight.. meet me in the park, the one who can relax first wins!"
Tai chi is a non-contact martial art. It's not meant for fighting, it's meant for exercise, breathing, and obviously, to look good. All the good tai chi masters know this. Anyone who doesn't is fake.
@@nottsoserious Tai chi was used in wars, there are 4 branches, nowaday you see the yang style only. We reached a point where 99/100 tai chi masters are fraud too.
@@organharvester1983 yep all of the real stuff has mostly been lost unfortunately
they actually trapping xu for throw first punch... and then sue him... nice try...
Yeah seen that a mile away
Bunch of cowards,... let's include the hotel management.
点没错！
Sad thing is xu couldve prolly whooped all of them at once lol and how can they say hes a fraud, while xu exposes frauds? Smh pretty funny
True, but they were likely baiting him into going to jail. The state hates that dude.
poopymcgee that exactly dudes great for avoiding it just like he’d avoid all their fists
Doubt it. Love the dude. I'm a fighter from the 80's. Early 90's. CQC master. He would have been overwhelmed by 2 of them. One-on-one, tho...
@muay thug It reminds me of Greek government and Greeks pretending ethnic Aromanians who don't support them are frauds.
They don't want to think they wasted their money at another dipstick dojo!
Instead of being angry with Xu, they should be angry with the fake Tai Chi Master that misrepresented their art. They should go corner Wei Lei.
aweba25 yeah these guys are a bunch of idiots
It's easier to buy into mass delusions than to admit to yourself that you've wasted a lot of time training the wrong way, and been gullible enough to believe something wrong. Easier to band together, be angry at Xu Xiaodong, and maintain the self-delusion along with everyone else in your life who probably _also_ needs to maintain that self-delusion.
Every kung fu guy that loses in a challenge match gets called a "fake" which only leads me to believe that either real "kung fu" must not exist, or they just all suck
i believe they are not mad cuz he won but the way he was disrespectful and ran his mouth
@Falk M How can someone be a master of something that is fake? You need to think before you call anyone an idiot. You're obviously not very smart.
Everyone's mad at him until they actually learn about his story and how it all began. He's a hero.
Xu Xiaodong is like a modern day Bruce Lee: he's able to look at the state of chinese martial arts and realize that it's not nearly as good as the mythology surrounding it would suggest and a whole lot of folks don't like hearing that.
Chinese people never fight one on one, I lived there for 11 years, take my word for it, it's either a mob or sneaky cheap shots, no wonder Jackie Chan movies are always one protagonist vs a mob, 7 so called fighters want answers, hahahaha
Don't generalise, think twice
@rajesh vengat indian thats why
@rajesh vengat so basically west not do gang vs one? Stupid !!!
I agree with you but in a street fight where there is no rules, it doesnt matter. Don't let your ego get in your way because it is better to run than to get beat on by multiple people.
@@StinkySundae very good statement . if u can evade it . just evade . actually 1vs1 is already too hard . u wont have a 100% win chance . its 50:50 . but at least if u learn something about self defence . maybe u can handle someone whom dont practice anything easily 1v1 . cmon . be logic . wushu movie is a movie . they cant even win 1vs1
Tai Chi practitioners tough in groups. In all of Xu Xiaodong fights, the called Kung Fu masters start throwing beginner boxing skills, never showed all the Kung Fu moves, not a single time.
Simple beat-down works better, it appears explaining why the MMA guy beat the practiced traditional fighter in the recent past.
Their arms crossed like the stereotypical henchmen in a martial arts film lol. Their problem is they don’t want to evolve.
Marshall Street hence the term “traditional”. That’s their downfall.
I even find it funny when people pretend these fake fighting art even worked in the past. I mean theres no proof of it...we watched too much tv. Theres no way win chun work if even among 2 win chun fighter, when they fight it look trash asf. No where near looking like when they drill
First the complaints that tai chi guys should be calm, next the complaints that their hands are crossed.
No satisfying you guys, is there.
Is this the same MMA guy on many videos knocking out traditional Kung Fu guys?
Yes it is him. So this 7 boys already know how it ends.
Traditional kung fu MASTERS
What surprises me most is that 8 Tai Chi practitioners are unaware that Tai Chi is not actually a form of combat.
seanwinter sax I’m not a Tai Chi practitioner but do some research before you post anything.
@@big00bull its not a actual form of combat, not in the current form.
@@finding_aether not in the current, most common form. But the older form does still exist on a very small scale
cry me a river.
@kay doyle ight lemme go get khabib
This is just shameful behavior on the Taijiquan students' parts. Their hypocrisy won't go unnoticed, and I hope their master has the integrity to discipline them and teach them better values should they catch wind of this.
Good on Xu Xiaodong for being the better man by keeping his cool and not falling for their cheap intimidation tactics. It seems like he conducted himself well and offered a logical and more agreeable alternative to a brawl. These so-called martial artists trying to goad him into a fight are cowards, bullies, and thugs, nothing more.
Yet they would have you believe it's the MMA guys that are the thugs and bullies lol.
@@egontokessy1610 It just goes to show that it's really not the martial art, but the person behind it that should be held to scrutiny when it comes to their character. MMA and other competitive martial arts get a bad reputation just because they are more combative in nature, and that's just incorrect.
It really is the occasional bad apples that spoil the bunch on both sides, and it's important to recognize that. I just hope that one day more people will be able to make that distinction based on more than a person's art. It's how you use what you know that counts.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble, but thanks for responding to my comment and I hope you're doing well. ^_^
Xioadong had the right answer too, bring your master down here. He doesnt know who these clowns are, whats the point in fighting them? Bring the master down to fight, then you can grind their whole lineage into dust.
@@pranakhan this is not a movie
he was probably scared of beating the snot out of them and creating a police issue
What kind of hotel is that can't protect their own property from harrashment.....should publish the hotel name...
The hotel is called CHINA
Lol don’t go to hotel China means don’t go to China .
Nicholas R why? What good are you and your complaint gonna do? We have no jurisdiction there.
I seen those guys before. They been trained in the art of power ranger kungfu.
bitch please, the power rangers have more honor than this asshats.
Thought it was bullshito?
Power rangers do karate
Xiaodong, give me 50 dumplings and I'll take care of those guys for you.
Are u mugen ?
@@dipanjena5149 id prefer jin
Samurai champloo😳
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What a bunch of goons, this is straight out of a movie
Karate kid.
On the contrary, they were his introduction to REAL life, not fantasy movies.
...or, "straight out a comic book man"... .
Its a real life kung fu movie except dude walked away .....discipline is what makes one a true kung fu master
I think noone would be able to beat several guys irl especially if they're all martial artists. 1 person vs 4 people is 2 hands vs 8 hands, 8 punches or more in one second.
Maybe unless a pro heavyweight boxer against 4 unfit people. xD So stay cool and walk away is the best exit.
@Mike Miller
Guess he realised he wasn't able to wrestle all four guys with his ground work.
Because YOU, of course, you know what a true master is ...
Got in a fight with some Tai Chi guys back in the day, took like three hours!
Hahahahaha
Sean Thompson huh
Hilarious!
Best and funniest comment ever!
Hey mum we did intimidate a mma fighter today.
MUM: We?
ye me and ma bois.
Mum how many guys you were?
we were 7
Mum: *Slaps Son*
Mum: Thats fkin john wick.
@@dinosaurus1973 That was actually a bit funny, brother.
Ouch! 🤣 🤣
Do you think the conversation started with typical Kung Fu movie speak? "So, you tink you fighting styoh is good, eh?! Wait till you see my TIGER Tai chi! Hi-yahh!"
My Buddha's hand style will end you all mwahahaha
F T “cat style”
“TIGER”
my horse style is invincible NYEEEEEIGHHHHH!!!!
Southern Scorpion style!
You have yet to fight against my drunken master style!
These Tai Chi fighters thought they could use “breathing techniques” against this MMA fighter until he collapsed under the pressure of their “chi”. 🤣
I thought tai chi was supposed to be a chill martial art.
Xu would wade through those dorks like a shark through a school of fish
What are they gonna do? Dogpile him? Some Tai Chi 🙄
Haha.... Those guys would get WRECKED
@@AztecUnshaven Why didn't they? They outnumbered him.
No, that's the movies. 7 athletic guys attacking you from every angle at once, you're fucked.
As for why they didn't: because the point wasn't to have a fight, it was to make him back down so they can walk away and say "see, he's a fraud, he wouldn't fight our guy. Tai Chi is legit and MMA is bullshit"
he should have done that instead of cowering
1-you don't go start a fight in a hotel foyer
2-xu behaved as a honest martial artist
3-stand over is not the way of taiji boxers. They bring shame to the art, their sifu and the Chen family name not just themselves.
If this happened in a park I wish Xu taught them a lesson in boxing.....although in reality he did but I doubt they were smart enough to get it.
This did taijiquan no favour.
I lived at a taiji boxing school for years and this was embarrassing. If we did that and Xu didn't flog us then when sifu found out he would.
Challenges are fine but there is a respectful way to go about it.
wow...
a whole platoon tries to provoke a lone soldier,?
what a shame!
Ta chi guys are bully, also coward, 5 against 1,their instructors taught them well
I love your Xu Xiaodong MMA videos. Love you and Xu! Keep up the great work!
All 8 of those dudes would run if he started going ham on them
Yep
Bet he would fuck most of them up unless he gets swarmed from all sides. Striking will be piss poor on tai chi guys with not alot of pop to out while also not being able to take any power themselves compared to mma fighters.
@@christiaandijksterhuis5505 nah. 4 untrained guys could beat him man.
@@updod88 I've seen live,a pro mma beat 3 thugs. 2 of them were down before the 3rd had time to react.
@@akybosule Yes, ive seen a boxer do it to two guys, but it depends man, its more plausible 4 dudes can take him down, but its all possible
Its like watching ip man with no fight scene.
Does anyone know when/where the Xu Xiaodong vs Yi Long fight is suppose to take place.
keep bringing stuff like this to us. You're right, this didn't get more attention because we don't understand Chinese
*This is some Ip-man shit. I can't believe this gang like martial art style tribes still exists in China. This was prevalent back then in Ip-man and Huo Yuanjia times.*
Kinda reminded me of a part from the movie BLOOD SPORT. When the guy was harassing the girl in the hotel i believe
What martial art do you learn Lyndii Mey
Kung fu is real just the master isn't. Do you even know shaolin monks? Search that up
@@salumtummundi9462 These guys, i think, havent done this for a while in any major way. I think, dont quote me, that its seeing a resurgence partly because of his challenges. dont quote me.
This is how most martial artists work. Whether or not they're aggressive with it, they group themselves into tribes and clans.
Is this Baki the Grappler?
hahahah yes, its IRL Baki Grappler kind of thing
If it were Baki Hanma, he would have ripped their eyeballs out of the sockets.
@@skunk12 not the eyeballs, just the sockets. 😂😂
@@jon...5324 thank you! Corrected.
I love your channel. Thanks for being more bilingual than I am so I can understand the context of things better lol.
Thanks for the translation bro..I've been searching for this xu adventure on exposing fake master..
Each country has a story of MMA revolution. This will be one of the videos that explain the trials and tribulations that it took to open up this country to MMA.
7 to 1 isnt even a fair fight for the MMA guy... He’ll put them to sleep...
I disagree
Unshaven One Xiaodong puts his money where his mouth is, these taiji guys has never been tested in an actual MA application.... the fact that they tried to intimidate him by ganging up on him, and Xiaodong demanded these guys to get permission from their “masters” to fight in a controlled environment (dojo or in a ring)...
Unshaven the fact them showing up where Xiaodong was staying was not done with good intention... Xiaodong was beaten once by a competent fighter and it was done in a controlled environment...
And they're Chinese, so that's almost 10 inches of penis all together.....
In a tight area like that where he's cornered he's going to get pinned quickly and destroyed by those 7, I don't care if he has UFC skill he's still losing that in a tight area. 4 people grab a limb each with 2 arms and the other 3 stomp what's left open (Head and exposed torso) No one beats those numbers in a tight area. But in an open field where he can strike and move yeah I'd back him to beat those 7.
i saw this but without your commentary i had to add my own... i cobbled together stuff from 1970's kung fu movies...it was kind of accurate actually.
your work is deeply appreciated by me m8 ...THANKYOU
Bro, would you consider putting all the Xu vids in a chronological playlist? I love these vids, and the story is fascinating.
Yeah. That’s a goal for me soon!
@@FightCommentary , awesome. Thanks for the content
As a teacher and practitioner of Chen Taijiquan myself I have also seen this behavior. These Taiji thugs are NOT "traditional" gongfu practitioners as the narrator claims. They are in fact representatives of a huge martial arts business enterprise. These guys are students and/or relatives of Chen Ziqiang, who is the son of Chen Xiaowang's brother, Chen Xiaoxing. Chen Ziqiang is in charge of the Chen Village school of his father's line, and he has a long reputation of making fake matches on Chinese TV (Wulin Dahui shows) in which he allegedly DEFEATS tough challengers, who actually turn out to be his own disciples taking dives etc.
He has an international network of seminars and performances that bank on the Chen family name and the worship of all things Chinese by hapless western sycophants. CZQ also arranged faked "fights" with Thai boxers they brought in and paid to take dives or something, claiming the Chen art was superior etc. Much of the method they employed in such ring events was sanda, kickboxing, and judo from coaches of these arts that they hired to fill the gaps for the actual traditional combative aspect that was lost to the village lines decades back during famine, struggle and political upheaval of modern Chinese history.
I imagine XXD said something accurate regarding the endless posturing and bragging that their teachers display and they are sent as the attack dogs to protect the business, which IS NOT SMALL. XXD has also called out the sons of Wang Xian for the same crap, and they also refuse to face him. These folks, they are involved in a business enterprise. Traditional Chen Taijiquan is not designed for the ring. it can be very effective but unfortunately much of the practical combative aspect is nearly lost and gone. As far as Chen Village schools are concerned it is LONG gone. They have competition wrestling the has evolved under a new ruleset after the 1980's and a set of applications arranged mainly by sanda, shuaijiao and judo instructors brought in to contribute applications where there were lacking. This is sort, not traditional gongfu, which these folks would actually not recognize.
The line I represent is actually traditional. It is not ring sports, and not judo or sanda. I have faced years of public animosity for discussing exactly this kind of fakery, self promotion, and bullshitting. Those of us in traditional gongfu who are not beholden to big business interests and international multilevel marketing scams actually find Xu Xiaodong's stance and bravery very refreshing.
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@@Nattapong69You need to apply a little logic and common sense here. Regardless of the background this is a group of guys, how many, 6 of them? So a gang of guys cornering ONE guy, a professional fighter/trainer in a hotel lobby. That is not honorable, nor fair. They did not have the integrity to challenge this ONE guy to a fair and public fight with referee etc. In this situation in China by trying to get this guy (Xu Xiaodong) to fight in a hotel lobby would get him (and probably them) arrested.
6 guys attempt to intimidate and fight 1 guy, yeah they are behaving like thugs. No need to question the use of the word thug as you can see it in action there.
In terms of calling traditional gongfu fake, yes XXD has a big mouth for sure and plenty of things he said were lacking balance and forethought, but the people he attracted who challenged him and lost WERE FAKES. SO he is actually doing a pretty good service by exposing and weeding out the fakes.
He has also clearly called out the teacher of these 'thugs' as someone who talks a big talk and the teacher does not have the courage to challenge him either. Then add to that they sent 6 guys to try to intimidate him instead of a legit fight. Again he is exposing the bullshit here. If that teacher were on the level he could respond with a legit fight, but of course they won't because their business is built upon faked, arranged (thrown and bribed) fights for promotion and marketing. Or of course the teacher could respond with "we are not prepared to get in the ring with MMA fighters because it is outside of our area of focus" but they will never admit that either. XXD is at least honest. These thugs and their teachers, not so much.
XXD is clearly willing to allow them to beat him in a well managed public fight and would accept the results. These folks want to intimidate him and shut him up but they do not want to be in the sunlight in a fight that they cannot pay someone else to lose.
@@Nattapong69 Two friends of mine who are traditional gongfu practitioners (in China) are friends with XXD. There is a public game here, yes, but apparently his friends are not against gongfu. What you have to understand is that practitioners of real gongfu generally support his exposing the fakes.
@@Nattapong69 First lets clear up a few things you said.
1) XXD never insisted that anyone wear gloves or what the rules had to be. He just told them to get their teacher to fight him officially, or arrange a fight with one of them officially. Nothing was said about gloves or rules. I doubt XXD would back down from a no gloves fight. Many MMA fights use pretty small gloves anyhow and not the boxing gloves you are referring to.
2) If the bare fist is totally ineffective in blocking the face that is the first I've heard about it. I could be wrong but I doubt you are correct.
3) the Wing Chun fighter being self taught means, in the world of traditional gongfu he IS a fake, since he was not traditionally taught. SELF is not traditional teacher, just made up.
4) Every "traditional" martial artist who has fought XXD and lost challenged him THEMSELVES. THEY bragged about how great they were and challenged him. He did not force anyone to get into the ring, suck, and loose. These delusional idiots are simply volunteering.
Yes, he is offering a service.
5) regarding rules and gloves and trad. gongfu not being suitable, ok within limits there is a point to be made there, but that does not mean that 6 guys need to gang up on one. That is dishonorable in any traditional gongfu, and they could have just as well asked for a legit fight on their own rules. He probably would have accepted. They are just not up to that challenge and can only talk shit and arrange bought and paid for fights. That is again, what he is revealing.
@@Nattapong69 “…actually punch yourself on the back of your hand, using your knuckles…It is one of the most sensitive areas in the body. It's a target to strike in and of itself because of how vulnerable it is…So little things like this change the game entirely. ”
I am well aware of the vulnerability of the back of the hand, but I am not at all sold on it being worse than the face. Nor I am convinced that exposing the hand would somehow make MMA fighters fail, magically. They already take a lot of pain and continue on.
“As for the rest about the guys ganging up on him. I didn't catch all of what they were even saying….Maybe they think he hired the guys he beat? I don't know what they are thinking. Maybe they went in a group of 6 because they thought he would have friends and bodyguards. They didn't physically attack him in a group of 6.”
If you cannot understand the meaning of publicly confronting one guy with six and physically blocking his exits from that lobby, then no logic or intellectual honesty will work on you. I should not need to try to explain this to you.
“I’m also not sure why you are talking about arranged fights from the Chen Village. Chen Xiaowang has a tai chi boxing team that has won professional competitions against muay thai fighters. There are a lot of good fighters in the Chen Village.”
LOL, ok. I suggest you break away from the sheep and do some actual research. The Thai fighters who participated were paid off it seems, nor were they serious pros. This story is now not new. Not only were these fights fixed, but the Chen village “fighters” were more trained in kickboxing than they were in Taijiquan combative application so your term, “tai chi boxing team” is already inaccurate. It’s a kickboxing team from Henan, wenxian who also perform Taiji forms that are almost entirely unrelated to their boxing/fighting action.. that’s as close as it gets. Some of those guys are shown in this video.
I know Xu Xiaodong is no UFC champion. I'm certain Xu Xiaodong wasn't really shaking in his shoes that day.
Three completely untrained people are a danger to even the most elite martial artist. Start adding more numbers to that and the threat becomes even more serious. It's not like the movies where they stand in a circle and attack one at a time. One on one I have no doubt that Xu Xiaodong could take any of them, but as a gang, he better be wearing good running shoes.
@@panpiper Not necessarily true. There's been trained fighters knocking out "tough guys" who aren't trained in many occasions. They are all 1 vs multiple attackers scenarios. Unless weapons are involve, that would be different, and I'd agree with you.
There are plenty of videos of a half-decent boxer knocking out 2 or 3 low-quality guys in the space of a few seconds.
@@Ultradude604 On paper, that's all true enough. But what does Xu Xiaodong have to fear in a situation like this? He gets beaten up badly maybe? His fame will only rise, and those responsible would have a heavy price to pay. Besides which, confidence is not always rational, and just knowing that (a) they were very unlikely to actually attack, and (b) it would be bad for them if they did but no loss to his reputation or pride no matter what probably gave him plenty of confidence.
But we've all seen how little it takes to completely discourage many of these Kung Fu guys who can't take a hit. That's the big difference. It would take a _very_ lucky hit to knock Xu Xiaodong down or out, but only a good broken nose or such to discourage some of those guys and make them think twice. On paper they'd beat him easily with those numbers. But how many of them would have the heart to actually take hits, but also the horrible nature to actually attack somebody in a cowardly way like that? Humans aren't much different from most other animals out there; we love to bluff and play out these little games of intimidation, but mostly we do like other animals and avoid actually harming each other or ourselves.
@@SundownTE remember turkish boxer? He took down 3-4 people on the street with good boxing style.
Is there a follow-up on this a-holes after?! I mean did they fought?
Mma should have said " cash me outside"
So Tai chi students so intimidating they even got the hotel security scared?
bunch of 5+ athletic guys is difficult for security no matter if they have not fight training at all.
There is usually only two guards in a place like that.
"athletic"
@@kullenberg They are tough as nails . Mongolian genes people are not to be fucked with.
@@travelwithoutmoving8842 LOL
I feel like they were in on it, since they were also blocking him from leaving for some reason.
The guy with the Puma shirt felt very “brave” confronting Xu Xiaodong when his buddies are with him, but I doubt if he would have confronted Xu alone. His teeth would have been lying on the floor next to him.
He also has government immunity. He most definitely would have gone it alone because the Government can do whatever they want to Xu at this point if he breaks any rules. I bet the Tai Chi guy in the puma shirt wouldn't come at him like that if the Government wasn't involved.
Why do they even hire security?!
Notice Wu Xiaodong looks like a brawler. The tai chi guys look like.....tai chi students.
Xu looks like a fighter, those boys look like adolescents with a mom who has no idea what they are doing against her rules right now.
Yep... they're doing their art real proud right now.
True Chinese martial arts revolve around benevolence and is Confucian in nature. This is a disgrace
Hey Jerry do you have any other channels besides this and your main “Jerry Liu”?
Yeah. Jerryasmr Jerry Sings and JerryLiuFilms. Some other ones too, but I never do anything on them anymore. If you remember that hilarious Chain Mail joke I made, it was inspired by a video on Jerry Explores History.
This is like straight out of a Jackie Chan movie. Would love to see part 2.
I was hoping for the 4th matrix film to break out.
Thanks so much for the tranlation! Tai Chi is meant to improve health and the qi in one's body, not to act like thugs and to challenge others to fight in public. What a shame.
Thanks for translating and bringing to the states
They just wanted to show him their wu-tang style :(
Nice, these guys managed to make Tai Chi look even worse. Good job guys.
This is literally the Tank Top army saying Saitama is a fraud even though he has beaten up monster, or in this case, every master that has gotten in his way. What more proof do you want?
The first thing I learned from my Kempo master was 'avoidance of altercations'....through my years I’ve become more situationally aware and can easily avoid most confrontations.....when pressed do what you know
Bunch of dumpling delivery guys. Meh
Aww i was waiting to see some wide ass haymaker slap attempts
Let us also remember that when a match with Xu Xiaodong was still on the table, one of the four elders of Chen village declared that Chen style Taiji Quan was NOT for fighting and said they wouldn’t send a challenger. Only after the Chinese Wushu Association completely tied Xu’s hands did Chen village send not ONE, but SEVEN! “challengers” to confront Xu. My how brave! Oh, sorry, what I meant to write is what weasels and chicken sh-ts….
"Get your master to fight me"
*OOF*
This is like a flashback to the 70's when people would 'challenge' Bruce Lee. They hated him because he spoke ill of Chinese arts. Damn.
That is an awesome line, I'm gonna try, if someone tries to pick a fight with me. -"Get permission from your master first ni99a"
I would say block the door one more time and see what happens
XU is a legend. Mad respect...fake tuffs: "let's fight!"
Xu: "Go get your master"
100 gangster
thanx for posting that video, that way people can knw more about how these kind people are intimidating someone who thalked about the truth of the chinese society
imagine now how bruce lee‘s life was. even during breaks at filmset he had to fight.
Reminds me of The Karate Kid movie with Jaden Smith lmao
They should use their combined chi to push Xu inside the restroom and make him poop his pants using chi. That will help their art to be convincing again.
thanks for sharing this video
They just make themselves look worse. Can't intimidate on their own.
Im so glad they didnt attack him.
They could've gotten hurt
so you think like mertial arts movise manner?
1 against 8 and they will get hurt.
i adviced you to do so, in that situation.
@@hideentity1518 are you not realizing its a joke for real? Or are you joking as well?
@@hideentity1518 Well they are Tai chi guys. I think he would get on just fine.
If he went one on one with "Puma" shirt the rest would follow.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain
This dude sounds like videogamedunkey lol
xu xioadong is right 👍 the Chinese kung fu master is only for the movie 🎥...
most Chinese hate Xu because he tells the TRUTH 🤪👍
When did taichi become a fighting technique
4:03 Asian Flinstone here looks like the bad Kung Fu teacher from Karate Kid (2010) n a deleted fight scene against Jackie Chan. 😂🤣😅
Tai Chi is so good... that the need to fight in group 😂😂😂😂
XXD only fights fake masters because they're older/ smaller/ weaker than XXD.. he usually doesn't fight stronger, bigger, younger opponents than him
These student be watching too many Ip Man movies
How is he now? Has he managed to move to Australia?
If they're so tough, they should just fight MMA, get paid, and prove to the world Tai Chi can fight. Why fight for free? Cowards.
funny thing is he could probably knockout all 8 of them in under 2 minutes.
Watched one too many fantasy movies, kid. Not funny.
@@billy_mandalay. no I actually compete in effective combat sports and I know that none of those fools would have the ability to grapple or choke Xu out, and I have seen Xu hold his hands down laughing as Tai Chi "masters" hit him in the head. I also know bareknuckle its not very easy to knock people out your hands tend to break before you can KO somebody that is an experienced fighter. no fantasy movies here "KID" I'm sorry you had your time stolen by Tai Chi, its not to late too learn a decent martial art. all the best.
@@eradicate300 they already cornered the man 8 to 1 its a no brainer these men will ne willing to use underhanded tactics or cheat their way in. I think its still possible to take them on if one has to but I'd rather avoid it if I can sir.
Why not put a subtittle
They probably saw the Karate Kid 2 before they came to "intimidate" him 😂