Hey Grant, with the new UCI rules, all manufacturers have to submit the equipment they will be using in the Tour by June 1st so it can be approved. So if there is a new Specialized, we will find out well before the race in July.
if i had 5500 I'd buy another Look 785, Campagnolo Super record Eps, winspace wheels - 6.4kg. Ebay baby...anyone buying these complete bikes is a total fool.
for caddets the new comp is worth it because we have gear restrictions and sram doesnt have any cassettes that are 16-30 but with shimano you can make custom cassettes
The new prices are insane... Purchased a 2021 Tarmac SL7 expert for $5,000 with a full ultegra DI2 groupset. Now with the comp being $5,500 with 105?!?! Insanity...
Something really interesting about this comparison is that these two models are only $500 apart in Canada as opposed to $1,000 USD different (I believe the specs are the same as the US). Highly unusual for the Canadian market is price differences are usually much greater due exchange rates.
@@GCPerformance18 welp, I’ve officially peaked on RUclips with your response to my comment. Out of curiosity you think the sl7 expert with new ultegra is worth $1000 (CAD) more than expert with rival?
My next bike is definitely going to be the new SuperSix EVO. $5,500 with the new 12 speed Ultegra Di2 and 50mm carbon wheels. And if you have an extra grand you can get it with the latest SRAM Force and R-S 50mm wheels. Is ridiculous Specialized charging these prices, but most ridiculous the people paying for it just because they want to have a bike that says Specialized on the side. Even for that price you can get a better bike from Giant.
The new Supersix evo looks great but good luck getting the 1 or 2 model. I’ve tried ordering the evo 1 through 2 different LBS that sell cannondale and neither could get a hold of one. The $5500 evo 2 you are referring to is also sold out even though it doesnt even come out for a couple months yet. The evo 3 with garbage wheels and 105 is pretty widely available though.
yea a sl6 with shimano 105 mechniacal or even ultegra we will call it..... its a mechanical group with external cables and a carbon covered alloy seatpost......... and you know how much electronic groups were back then as well
It was Ultegra. Nevertheless, Specialized and the industry in general is pricing out the enthusiast . Mid grade options are scant... its either exorbitantly priced bike or entry level.
@@danielmusser8266 it’s not pricing out the enthusiast; enthusiast stuff has always cost above what the Tom dick and Harry would pay. If anything, it’s just now removing the ppl who aren’t really what you’d consider enthusiast to begin with. This is a luxury brand, and playing it this level (equipment wise) is a pursuit of luxury. Simple. There are budget options like decathlon if this is too expensive for the layman.
I got a di2 comp Ultegra SL6 for 3900 USD in 2021. Added a zipp bar and winspace Hyper's for about 5k total with sales. I'd recommend comp and upgrade your own wheels and bar.
Seems like you get a lot for your $1000 right there. And you're 100% correct - the lower pricing this year is a reflection of just how bad the cash grab was last year. I'd wager they realized they have ballooning inventory and the market isn't supporting the gouging prices, so semi return to normalesque (still expensive).
I got the comp about a month ago 25% reduced and on cycle to work scheme (UK - essentially the 40% that I would pay in income tax goes to the bike instead so real world 40% discount on top of the 25%). I added some Hunt 55 carbon rims tubeless set up and the power meter upgrade and handlebar which I will do soon are relatively cheap. Getting it out the box with 2 of these 3 upgrades is something I would've considered but I'm happier with being able to pick the wheels I wanted instead of the 38s. Also thinking about using some of the savings to get the Favero Assioma duo power meters instead as well. For the handlebar I'm waiting to see what comes out with the lead sl8 that some of the pro teams have been running on their SL7s.
It’s like they don’t want people buying new bikes. SL2-5 used, under $1000 and better bikes than any of these new bikes. I’m not against e-shifting or hydro disk road brakes. I just find it offensive that manufacturers are forcing it on everyone. I want to put my snowboard away at the end of winter, pull my bike out and ride it. I don’t want to charge or change batteries, update software, bleed my brakes, listen to my disks make noise, change the fluid in my tubeless/hookless wheels, sync my phone to my bike. It’s fine if you do, but I want the option to opt out. I guess that’s where Marketplace and those “old fashioned” SL 2-5 DuraAce bikes for
@@GCPerformance18 Face it; their build quality is on another level compared to the likes of the big name brands like Specialized, Scott, Trek, BMC, etc, etc.
Had a choice between any frames that I wanted. The only reason I would buy a time frame is because of this prestige that comes with it. But why bother with Time when you can get BOTH prestige and modern day design choices and performance with Pinarello?
@@GCPerformance18 With you on this one. Their frame looks way too outdated for my personal tastes. Those build quality dont really mean anything for me. I will only need a good build quality like the Giant frame im having now, currently at 7k km mileage, working flawless.
Yep that's the one. I ended up getting the previous years expert in gloss carbon/oil tint/forest green. I don't like the colour as much, but it came with Ultegra for the same price as the gloss morning mist with Rival with the recent discounts.
@@markr6383 I just order my first roadbike. The SL7 Expert in Gloss Morning Mist. Should be here in a week. I am very excited. And a helmet, and bibs, and a trainer, and a bike stand, and a heart monitor, and a garmin, and shoes, and cleets, and a gym membership, and lessons, and....
You can find sworks sl7 with red groupset for 8k in great condition. Primarily due too many people making a prediction about sl8 on RUclips and telling people don’t buy an sl7…. There is a youtube advising people to wait for sl8.
New Supersix evo is smashing these bikes to pieces both on price and spec! Specialized are relying on the attorney and dentist crowd to buy there bikes.
The reason people use the SL7 as a comparison is because it's not an aero frame, so the numbers look better. It's essentially a benchmark of a basic road bike with no aero design.
Can you notice a difference between the 9r and 10r? I'm SUPER confused by Specialized webpage now but I noticed they lowered prices so I was thinking about the SL7 Comp with Di2
@@GCPerformance18 Man the Canyon CF SLX 8 still hard to beat the Rival to Force upgrade for $100 bucks more than SL7 and the wheels imo are a bit better than the SL7 Expert. The only difference is the weight and frame color choices. How much does the bone stock Expert SL7 weigh exactly?
@@nationsnumber1chumpapparently yes, I've just ordered the sl7 comp yesterday and it also has the 36/52. I'd rather have the 34/50 but I got a great deal. Just about 2900€! I'll sell the wheels ans use my 35mm depth alloy hunts for the moment. Great price for a sub 8 kg build with di2 I think! Let's hope that the lower grade frame does not hold it back
So the rival group was bumped up from the SL7 comp to the SL7 expert. I recon the ultegra SL8/Venge will be the next big announcement together with the SWorks SL8/Venge dura-ace bikes!
Im so happy with my 4500 euro canyon aeroad. Sramrival with powermeter, high carbon wheels aero seatpost more aeroframe aero cockpit. Just shows how ridicilous specialized is
Greetings! Do you have any knowledge if the Tarmac SL 6 comes with a new innovation in this 2023, With 105 Di2 With hidden cables. It should be a cheaper model. Thank you for your answer.
Regarding your TDF predictions - did you see that the UCI has imposed a June 1 deadline for equipment (bikes, frames, components, etc) that can be used in the race? No more prototype, super secret, mad scientist gear. Curious if that changes your TDF prediction at all.
But depending on what type of ride I'm doing. For the price crit racing canyon aeroroad and all around orbea orca. But specialized has that extra branding
The claim that the Shimano 105 Di2 is better than the Sram Rival eTap AXS is ridiculous. With 105 Di2 you are limited to only two cassettes 11-34 and 11-36 and one chainring 50/34. The Shimano 105 Di2 Rear Derailleur doesn't even support the use of an Ultegra or Dura Ace 11-30 cassette. Gear ratio options are much larger with the Rival AXS. The Rival AXS Rear Derailleur supports 10-28, 10-30, 10-33 and 10-36 cassettes (Rival, Force, Red). With the Rival AXS FD, you can combine 7 types of cranksets. By changing the crankset, cassette and rotors for the Sram RED AXS, you reach almost the same weight as the Sram Red groupset. The difference in levers Front Derailleur, Rear Derailleur and brake calipers between Sram Rival and Sram Red is only about 100g. Bikes with Rival AXS are usually the best to upgrade if you want a modern and relatively light bike with 2 x 12 electronic gears for a reasonable price. At least that's my experience.
It’s just my personal preference, and my professional opinion working with both groups every day and building these bikes up daily. But it’s my opinion
@@GCPerformance18 I also. Except for bleeding the brakes, mounting the Sram AXS groupset is easier than Shimano Di2, as you don't need an internal battery with a battery holder and wires. But that's not the point. You are forming a public opinion without any real arguments, but I presented to you why, in my opinion, the Sram AXS is better for customers in many ways.
yea they are still releaseing them as new models, and the bike is still a top performing bIke in 2023..... it won mens giro, vueltta, 3 times in a row mens uci championship, the bike still performs very well
@@GCPerformance18 While that is technically true, in my opinion, the top bikes these days in 2023 from any manufacturer are so close in performance that the difference in results come from the riders rather than what brand bike they are riding. Would a pro like Remco have less success if he was on a different top tier brand bike? My guess is probably not, but the marketing of Specialized plays with consumers' emotions more than other brands (I for one bought an Allez as my first bike because of their marketing for example).
There is absolutely no justification to these prices. 2021 frame molds with bottom-of-the-barrel components and a pre-installed power-meter no-one asked for. Absolutely beyond ridiculous money grab with no regard for the hobby. Shameful
bottom of the barrel? I think some of u guys are becoming cycling snobs and not even knowing it, 12 speed electronic bikes 2 years ago were only sram red and sram force axs and those bikes started at like 8,000
@@GCPerformance18 105 and rival are entry level components and there is no need to appeal to “tiagra” and whatever else - that was reserved for wallmart bikes since the dawn of ages. Paying for a “premium” of an electronic groupset while having a choice of a reasonably priced mechanical one is fair. Being cornered i to buying a lower-tier E-groupset without other options is a scam. I bought a sl6 expert with mech Di2 and C38 for $4000 and it is miles more of a bike than these comps will ever be. Mind you the price if manufacturing in Taiwan went up lets say 20% - thats on a $400 Frame to manufacture - a joke. All components besides the groupset are in-house and similarly dirt- cheap to produce. Shipping is back to pre-pandemic prices. There is nothing that justifies these prices. Specialized margin on these bikes was already over a 1000% but the greed can not be stopped
I mean the 105 dis group is more epxensive then the sram rival group, so if the comp from last year was sram rival and 5500 and people bought those all out, then now your getting a nicer group for the same money
What you want me to do? You want me to do every bike at a price point? I’m a specialized guy I sell specialized. I know the product back and forth. For me to sit here and say these bikes are better from like a look I don’t know how those ride. I’m only speaking on what I know
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I have a ton of new bike videos coming out soon going to more bike shops this weekend to get more models and products coming out
Hey Grant, with the new UCI rules, all manufacturers have to submit the equipment they will be using in the Tour by June 1st so it can be approved. So if there is a new Specialized, we will find out well before the race in July.
It would be the Sl8 not a venge heard it from someone who lives in China and works for the bike industry (youtube)
if i had 5500 I'd buy another Look 785, Campagnolo Super record Eps, winspace wheels - 6.4kg. Ebay baby...anyone buying these complete bikes is a total fool.
for caddets the new comp is worth it because we have gear restrictions and sram doesnt have any cassettes that are 16-30 but with shimano you can make custom cassettes
The new prices are insane... Purchased a 2021 Tarmac SL7 expert for $5,000 with a full ultegra DI2 groupset. Now with the comp being $5,500 with 105?!?! Insanity...
Something really interesting about this comparison is that these two models are only $500 apart in Canada as opposed to $1,000 USD different (I believe the specs are the same as the US). Highly unusual for the Canadian market is price differences are usually much greater due exchange rates.
yes I have seen different prices in other countries too, like autralia I think its like 6200 for the expert, I dont know why
Not even mate! $7200 for Comp (rival/105 Di2) and $9300 for the expert! We get absolutely fucked with exchange rates and import taxes here
@@GCPerformance18 welp, I’ve officially peaked on RUclips with your response to my comment.
Out of curiosity you think the sl7 expert with new ultegra is worth $1000 (CAD) more than expert with rival?
My next bike is definitely going to be the new SuperSix EVO. $5,500 with the new 12 speed Ultegra Di2 and 50mm carbon wheels. And if you have an extra grand you can get it with the latest SRAM Force and R-S 50mm wheels. Is ridiculous Specialized charging these prices, but most ridiculous the people paying for it just because they want to have a bike that says Specialized on the side. Even for that price you can get a better bike from Giant.
You can that Specialized in cycling is what apple is at phones
The new Supersix evo looks great but good luck getting the 1 or 2 model. I’ve tried ordering the evo 1 through 2 different LBS that sell cannondale and neither could get a hold of one. The $5500 evo 2 you are referring to is also sold out even though it doesnt even come out for a couple months yet.
The evo 3 with garbage wheels and 105 is pretty widely available though.
Im guilty but won’t really overpay. I think the giant is ugly. Looks play a way bigger part in my decisions than I’d like to admit lol
In 2020, the Tarmac Comp was $3500... ridiculous.
yea a sl6 with shimano 105 mechniacal or even ultegra we will call it..... its a mechanical group with external cables and a carbon covered alloy seatpost......... and you know how much electronic groups were back then as well
It was Ultegra. Nevertheless, Specialized and the industry in general is pricing out the enthusiast . Mid grade options are scant... its either exorbitantly priced bike or entry level.
@@GCPerformance18 dont even begin justifying it, these price ranges are beyond any reason
@@danielmusser8266 it’s not pricing out the enthusiast; enthusiast stuff has always cost above what the Tom dick and Harry would pay.
If anything, it’s just now removing the ppl who aren’t really what you’d consider enthusiast to begin with.
This is a luxury brand, and playing it this level (equipment wise) is a pursuit of luxury. Simple.
There are budget options like decathlon if this is too expensive for the layman.
I got a di2 comp Ultegra SL6 for 3900 USD in 2021. Added a zipp bar and winspace Hyper's for about 5k total with sales. I'd recommend comp and upgrade your own wheels and bar.
Seems like you get a lot for your $1000 right there. And you're 100% correct - the lower pricing this year is a reflection of just how bad the cash grab was last year. I'd wager they realized they have ballooning inventory and the market isn't supporting the gouging prices, so semi return to normalesque (still expensive).
I got the comp about a month ago 25% reduced and on cycle to work scheme (UK - essentially the 40% that I would pay in income tax goes to the bike instead so real world 40% discount on top of the 25%). I added some Hunt 55 carbon rims tubeless set up and the power meter upgrade and handlebar which I will do soon are relatively cheap. Getting it out the box with 2 of these 3 upgrades is something I would've considered but I'm happier with being able to pick the wheels I wanted instead of the 38s. Also thinking about using some of the savings to get the Favero Assioma duo power meters instead as well. For the handlebar I'm waiting to see what comes out with the lead sl8 that some of the pro teams have been running on their SL7s.
It’s like they don’t want people buying new bikes. SL2-5 used, under $1000 and better bikes than any of these new bikes. I’m not against e-shifting or hydro disk road brakes. I just find it offensive that manufacturers are forcing it on everyone. I want to put my snowboard away at the end of winter, pull my bike out and ride it. I don’t want to charge or change batteries, update software, bleed my brakes, listen to my disks make noise, change the fluid in my tubeless/hookless wheels, sync my phone to my bike. It’s fine if you do, but I want the option to opt out. I guess that’s where Marketplace and those “old fashioned” SL 2-5 DuraAce bikes for
i think for the Pro model they will put the ultregra that came out with the expert last year aswell as the new force.
Buying a Time frame......building it up....
I bought the Scylon rim brake and couldn’t be happier. Good choice, enjoy.
not a fan of time, I think they are cool, but not like godsend how every influencer looks at them
@@GCPerformance18 Face it; their build quality is on another level compared to the likes of the big name brands like Specialized, Scott, Trek, BMC, etc, etc.
Had a choice between any frames that I wanted.
The only reason I would buy a time frame is because of this prestige that comes with it. But why bother with Time when you can get BOTH prestige and modern day design choices and performance with Pinarello?
@@GCPerformance18 With you on this one. Their frame looks way too outdated for my personal tastes. Those build quality dont really mean anything for me. I will only need a good build quality like the Giant frame im having now, currently at 7k km mileage, working flawless.
I absolutely love the white (light blue?) color of the new rival expert, but I'd never buy it over getting the 105 comp and buying my own 50mm wheels.
Gloss Morning Mist?
Yep that's the one. I ended up getting the previous years expert in gloss carbon/oil tint/forest green. I don't like the colour as much, but it came with Ultegra for the same price as the gloss morning mist with Rival with the recent discounts.
@@markr6383 I just order my first roadbike. The SL7 Expert in Gloss Morning Mist. Should be here in a week. I am very excited. And a helmet, and bibs, and a trainer, and a bike stand, and a heart monitor, and a garmin, and shoes, and cleets, and a gym membership, and lessons, and....
I just purchased this bike today the 105 di2 in the dove white color loving the bike so far
dove white goes hard congratulations
Random but is a brand new SL6 a good buy in 2024? Is there much difference between that and an SL7?
ya not a bad buy
@@GCPerformance18 anything else you’d recommend under 3000?
Think I'd be more inclined to buy the Comp and get a pair of Winspace Hypers and GP5000s. Only thing the Rovals have going for them is the warranty.
You can find sworks sl7 with red groupset for 8k in great condition. Primarily due too many people making a prediction about sl8 on RUclips and telling people don’t buy an sl7…. There is a youtube advising people to wait for sl8.
New Supersix evo is smashing these bikes to pieces both on price and spec! Specialized are relying on the attorney and dentist crowd to buy there bikes.
The reason people use the SL7 as a comparison is because it's not an aero frame, so the numbers look better. It's essentially a benchmark of a basic road bike with no aero design.
Can you notice a difference between the 9r and 10r? I'm SUPER confused by Specialized webpage now but I noticed they lowered prices so I was thinking about the SL7 Comp with Di2
105 does a 52/36T now?
not a lot, the 9r is heavier and more dense so more ocmfy but by very little amount just the weight
@@GCPerformance18 Man the Canyon CF SLX 8 still hard to beat the Rival to Force upgrade for $100 bucks more than SL7 and the wheels imo are a bit better than the SL7 Expert. The only difference is the weight and frame color choices. How much does the bone stock Expert SL7 weigh exactly?
@@nationsnumber1chumpapparently yes, I've just ordered the sl7 comp yesterday and it also has the 36/52. I'd rather have the 34/50 but I got a great deal. Just about 2900€! I'll sell the wheels ans use my 35mm depth alloy hunts for the moment. Great price for a sub 8 kg build with di2 I think! Let's hope that the lower grade frame does not hold it back
SRAM Red has been seen over the winter on tons of bikes like lars van der hars, not sure you can call it a prediction😅.
Also campy!!!
So the rival group was bumped up from the SL7 comp to the SL7 expert. I recon the ultegra SL8/Venge will be the next big announcement together with the SWorks SL8/Venge dura-ace bikes!
Im so happy with my 4500 euro canyon aeroad. Sramrival with powermeter, high carbon wheels aero seatpost more aeroframe aero cockpit. Just shows how ridicilous specialized is
Good luck with your seat post though!!
@@tombola4046 I was skeptical but canyon pregreased the area very good. No creak nothing and hopefully this stays the same in the future;)
Sorry, did you say the SL7 Expert is last years SWORKS frame, they just put Specialized on it?
no I am saying they are the same geo and same wind tunnel testing
Greetings!
Do you have any knowledge if the Tarmac SL 6 comes with a new innovation in this 2023, With 105 Di2 With hidden cables. It should be a cheaper model. Thank you for your answer.
How much will the top of the line SL7 will be then?
would you choose 105 di2 or rival axs?
Regarding your TDF predictions - did you see that the UCI has imposed a June 1 deadline for equipment (bikes, frames, components, etc) that can be used in the race? No more prototype, super secret, mad scientist gear.
Curious if that changes your TDF prediction at all.
Making bikes outrageously expensive isn’t going to grow the sport lol, these companies are delusional
Thoughts on the LOOK 795 Blade??
Comp should have Carbon wheels for that price.
I have 2 bikes with 11r carbon from 2 different years, will I notice a difference between a 12r Tarmac and a 10r Tarmac?
very small, it is hard to say but the 12r does feel lighter and mroe responsive
Better grupo and carbon wheels for 1k. Totally worth it.
But depending on what type of ride I'm doing. For the price crit racing canyon aeroroad and all around orbea orca. But specialized has that extra branding
Im planning to buy the expert . do you guys know if the c38 will come with Xdr free hub so i can transfer it to my cl 2 which has shimano free hub?
if you buy the expert yes they do come with it for the expert bike
Anyone else can’t get over 5500 for a bike with 105? And I like 105!!
Gotta swap out chain rings on both (why so small?😂). Also, selling dts r470s reduces difference a little.
What's up with these boring colors? GC is the blue lagoon frame set going to come back in stock
not that I know of
Possible Super-six evo hi-mod 2 vs Tarmac sl7 expert comparison?
yea that is a great one
@@GCPerformance18 Thank you!
It does appear like Specialized is making room in the $8-9k range for a new bike.
The claim that the Shimano 105 Di2 is better than the Sram Rival eTap AXS is ridiculous. With 105 Di2 you are limited to only two cassettes 11-34 and 11-36 and one chainring 50/34.
The Shimano 105 Di2 Rear Derailleur doesn't even support the use of an Ultegra or Dura Ace 11-30 cassette. Gear ratio options are much larger with the Rival AXS. The Rival AXS Rear Derailleur supports 10-28, 10-30, 10-33 and 10-36 cassettes (Rival, Force, Red). With the Rival AXS FD, you can combine 7 types of cranksets.
By changing the crankset, cassette and rotors for the Sram RED AXS, you reach almost the same weight as the Sram Red groupset.
The difference in levers Front Derailleur, Rear Derailleur and brake calipers between Sram Rival and Sram Red is only about 100g.
Bikes with Rival AXS are usually the best to upgrade if you want a modern and relatively light bike with 2 x 12 electronic gears for a reasonable price. At least that's my experience.
It’s just my personal preference, and my professional opinion working with both groups every day and building these bikes up daily. But it’s my opinion
@@GCPerformance18 I also. Except for bleeding the brakes, mounting the Sram AXS groupset is easier than Shimano Di2, as you don't need an internal battery with a battery holder and wires. But that's not the point. You are forming a public opinion without any real arguments, but I presented to you why, in my opinion, the Sram AXS is better for customers in many ways.
@Charles Man You're missing the point
Specialized is 49 years old, wouldnt being 50 years old next year be a big marketting driver for marketting the SL8?
Kind of makes sense if you ask me. Don't forget about the Stumpjumper too because if I remember correctly, this is their first Specialized bike.
I’m a little bit faith up of specialized!!!
But Cannondale is selling their Supersix 4 Ultegra di2 with 45mm carbon wheels for $5500 🤷
No there not, I just did a video on the cannndnale super six. They had it with aluminum wheels for 4500 and was a tank
GC looks like you’ve been pumping some iron or is that muscle from pumping tubeless tires?😂
The older I get, the more that Australian guy on RUclips makes sense…
hahaha
he has good taste in women as well
Yes…I have a new electric 12 Speed Ultegra downstairs in a box and not sure to replace my installed mechanical 11 speed Ultegra on my SL6 😅
@@taxi9554 Di2 is nice…. I have 12sp ultegra. If it’s at your house, go for it!
100%
Felt ar advance all day for me! To be fair, i dont climb hills
Thought this was a 2020 or 2021 video. Why are we still talking about SL7 in mid 2023 ?
yea they are still releaseing them as new models, and the bike is still a top performing bIke in 2023..... it won mens giro, vueltta, 3 times in a row mens uci championship, the bike still performs very well
@@GCPerformance18 While that is technically true, in my opinion, the top bikes these days in 2023 from any manufacturer are so close in performance that the difference in results come from the riders rather than what brand bike they are riding. Would a pro like Remco have less success if he was on a different top tier brand bike? My guess is probably not, but the marketing of Specialized plays with consumers' emotions more than other brands (I for one bought an Allez as my first bike because of their marketing for example).
There is absolutely no justification to these prices. 2021 frame molds with bottom-of-the-barrel components and a pre-installed power-meter no-one asked for. Absolutely beyond ridiculous money grab with no regard for the hobby. Shameful
Almost like I wrote it. What happened to rim brakes and good quality mechanical shifting?
bottom of the barrel? I think some of u guys are becoming cycling snobs and not even knowing it, 12 speed electronic bikes 2 years ago were only sram red and sram force axs and those bikes started at like 8,000
@@GCPerformance18 105 and rival are entry level components and there is no need to appeal to “tiagra” and whatever else - that was reserved for wallmart bikes since the dawn of ages.
Paying for a “premium” of an electronic groupset while having a choice of a reasonably priced mechanical one is fair. Being cornered i to buying a lower-tier E-groupset without other options is a scam.
I bought a sl6 expert with mech Di2 and C38 for $4000 and it is miles more of a bike than these comps will ever be.
Mind you the price if manufacturing in Taiwan went up lets say 20% - thats on a $400 Frame to manufacture - a joke. All components besides the groupset are in-house and similarly dirt- cheap to produce. Shipping is back to pre-pandemic prices. There is nothing that justifies these prices. Specialized margin on these bikes was already over a 1000% but the greed can not be stopped
open mould ftw
Both way too expensive IMO.
these prices have been the same since before 2019....
oh man, you looks like godzilla
Hahaha
The colours are so disapointing😢
The SL7 105 di2 should be $4500 smh at this point they are just milking it
I mean the 105 dis group is more epxensive then the sram rival group, so if the comp from last year was sram rival and 5500 and people bought those all out, then now your getting a nicer group for the same money
Ce sera difficile de faire mieux que le sl7 tellement ce vélo est réussi !
This is getting ridiculous now😂
Only promoting ...specialized
What you want me to do? You want me to do every bike at a price point? I’m a specialized guy I sell specialized. I know the product back and forth. For me to sit here and say these bikes are better from like a look I don’t know how those ride. I’m only speaking on what I know