I Overclocked My Ryzen 7 5800X Using Precision Boost Overdrive 2 and Curve Optimizer
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2021
- In this video we take a look at some gaming benchmarks and results that I conducted on my Ryzen 7 5800X which I overclocked using Precision boost overdrive 2 and curve optimizer. The results are interesting to the say the least but I’ve gotten many requests asking me to do this. If you’ve got the time to tweak PBO2 and CO, then it might be worth checking out if you’re after every last possible frame, if not then at least you know out of the box the 5800X is still going to be delivering excellent performance.
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I remember in the 80s we did the overclocking by replacing the crystal on the motherboard. i.e. a 33MHz to a 40MHz. Hunted faster SRAM chips for the mobo for cache. This never gets old.
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I did PBO with Ryzen 7 5800x on Battlefield 2042 (wich is very heavy on cpu due to lack of optimization i think) and it went from 60/80 fps to around 100. Nice video!
Thanks for the video. Seeing how there wasn't much of an fps difference from the additional boost clocks from PBO2/CO. Another video idea would be to see how low you can reduce the power limits of PBO without losing fps performance from stock. A lower power limit would provide lower temps. This could be helpful information for people with air coolers or smaller AIOs
At 1080p there would be
Thanks I enabled PBO, set PPT TDC and EDC on a gradations delta function with individual core cascading at a range of 24 per core and finally FINALLY broke the dang 5.6ghz ceiling! Diablo 4 running amazingly with crazy 0.1% lows that almost never goes down
Good video man. Really nice
In my case, where I use air cooler, the pbo helped me to reduce the power consumption by a lot. Also more than 10°C cooler on R23 load.
I set my 5600X to +200, 4 cores to - 30 and 2 cores to - 29 since they were slightly unstable. Rock solid for 3 months now. In shadow of the tomb raider I got 5% more fps and in cinebench 6% more. One thing to note with curve optimizer is that you get lower temps at low loads/idle vs stick since voltage is not a lot lower. On idle/low load it is now 0.84-0.87V vs 0.95-0.99V stock, temp is 3-4C lower vs stock.
Good video dude.
Great comparison. I enabled pbo just now and I’m seeing 5.1ghz
This is called PBO undervolting to distinguish it from manual overclocking where higher voltages are pushed. Do NOT do it this way and set the limit to 255. Set it to something reasonable as a failsafe. That's why it's there. Pushing it higher will only allow you to damage your power delivery or the CPU.
Can't wait to mess with the PBO on my new 5800x. My 1700 served me well pinned at 3.7 at 1.38v for 4+ years.
Great video and if you do not OC the chip what GHZ does it do out of box in games? I have a 3900x and without OC my chip is around 4.18ghz
Why do you get frametime spikes and fps drops in the shown gameplay (csgo and the car game) in the vid. isnt your pc setup good enough?
I don’t know much about pcs
i have a qustion about if its safe to change the temapture vaule because since the 5800x is rated max temp is 90c. so by increasing thr heat limit does this mean its safe to do if you have good cooling solution?
How did you find your PBO limit values?
Use the ClockTuner for Ryzen tool instead of PBO and CO. You get much tighter control, along with a handy UI to navigate, and automatic assessment functions. You also get a slightly better understanding of exactly what’s going on, along with a tiny bit more headroom for squeezing the most of your processor
As someone who has used ClockTuner and paid for 1usmus's Hydra to check it out, do not use them... don't pay for his patreon and definitely don't use Hydra to "optimize" your overclocking. It will stress your system like crazy for hours upon end then give you completely inaccurate values that need to be corrected each time the system crashes (and it WILL crash... multiple times). You're better off sticking to manual overclocking or use a more reputable tool like Ryzen master to get a *rough* idea on where to start and tweak your settings in the BIOS from there.
@@BenM158 thank you for reminding me of this comment I posted. I quickly discovered just how bad clocktuner was for my system, and just how inaccurate the values were. They meant nothing. I ended up putting equally as much time and effort into learning how to tune PBO and CO manually in BIOS, and got better results. I ran my rig like that for months. In the end, I have everything back to stock because the amount of stress on my system was evident in the amount of power it was always consuming. None of this was worth it in my opinion, at least for Ryzen 5000 chips. Crazy to think nowadays that my CPU platform is the bottleneck in my system when I came from Ryzen 3000 this was such a massive upgrade. All in all I would say it’s better to shoot for the best stock performance from any chip manufacturer and get the added benefit of best performance along side best power consumption.
@@ButteredToast_93 I know exactly where you're coming from, and I'm not sure about 5000 series but for 7000 you're definitely right about stock being about as good as it gets if you can't dial in PBO. I spent so much time using that guy's tools and I see what he's trying to do but it just isn't the way to do it. Eventually I went back to PBO with my 7600X and I've been running a -15 per core undervolt with -5 on my two best cores and a power limit of 85 watts. That's been stable, slightly better than stock at lower temps, and a +100 boost clock override gets each core up to 5.49 GHz under max load (cinebench) and I honestly don't even need that so I'll probably dial it back. Compared to 1usmus's software PBO is just simpler and performs better. It definitely seems more complicated (at least it did for me) but like you said, when you understand it you start to see that it's way more efficient than having some shady guy's software running in the background and overcomplicating things. Btw, sorry if my comment seemed harsh, i just had a super frustrating experience with Hydra.
Very rare for a 5800x to b stable at +200 with a 20 negative curve
It most likely isn't, tbh.
It's stable for everyday tasks. No use running OCCT, Prime95 or whatever for days if all you do is gaming and streaming.
@@tmkongen Until you corrupt some critical files or your Windows install from using corrupt data.
@@josephhodges718 Never happened to me but that must be awfull :)
I'm running neg 20 and +125. OCCT and prime 95 stable. Runs cooler than stock... and all I have is a dual tower, triple fan air cooler.
Nice video. Any tips for tuning those power limits? Also I hear scalar doesn’t do anything, any reason for 5x not 10x?
I just picked 5x because it was in between, but really no particular reason, I did play around with scalar values and found it has very little impact.
As for power limits a quick and dirty version for finding out your values is to max out the value or choose motherboard, launch up prime95 or CB23, note down your values from HWINFO. then those will be your starting values. Go back into your bios plug those values in, and work your way from there.
Should i use pbo limit to motherboard or disable if i cant find the wats on custom
I have 5600x?
Very good video :) It seems to me that for gaming its pretty much unnecessary to go for 3 extra FPS
Well done sir! I use PBO2 to lower Temps instead and keep PC super quiet. I give away 10fps or so for ~ - 20C on cpu, going on 100W on PPT and 85A on TDC when going heavy on gaming, on a 1440p 144hz ultrawide with 6800xt. Honestly there is no reason imo and my personal preference, to raise Temps that high for a few extra fps. Also having Noctua D15 as cpu cooler on 600-700rpm, pc so quite I barely notice it's there. While consuming so less juicy. 5800x running at 40-50C when gaming. it's personal preference but thought I would share with others 🙏🏼
So to lower Temps, for a few lower fps, consider LOWERING PPT and TDC.
When I create content like heavy rendering and modeling in 3ds max, Maya, cinema4d, zbrush, I lower EDC to 85-100, for better multi core performance. However when I plan long gaming sessions I raise EDC again.
Edit: oh and I forgot, there is no current game of all the 20 I've benchmarked, basically all heavy games out there, that get a performance nerf enough for it to not lowerthe clock speed, putting it to negative 200-300Mhz, helping lowering the Temps to the 40-50C while receiving mostly same performance as if it was at positive 200-400 🤯😎
Funny. I just set CO to negative 20 (nothing else changed) on my 5800X. It lowered the temps by about 10⁰ when gaming AND boosted it by 125mhz.
I have PPT of 115W, 60A TDC, and 90A EDC.
Moving the TDC to anything above 60A would noticeably increase the heat output, so that's why I capped it there. I have a very loose but safe CO setting, but I almost never hit 80C with any workload, so I'm good with where things are for me. I've been thinking of getting a 5800X3D to see how much of an uplift it'll give VR games, but I haven't seen any VR specific benchmark numbers. I guess it's too niche.
Why didn't you measure the temperature and create charts to compare? That is the main difference when using PBO2
yes and power draw mine ist set to 95w ppt and it will maybe perform the same within 1%
Hello, I hope you can help me. I play a lot of CSGO and have the 5800x. I capped the FPS to 500 FPS and sometimes it drops below 200 fps.. I keep getting mini stutters and don't know what to do to keep the FPS more stable. Do you have any ideas that help with CSGO? Thanks in advance
I find it better to just set all the cores to -30, individually, in CO, and then drop an individual core down by a few points if it crashes. It's pretty easy to see which cores give a WHEA in Event Viewer, and it's generally the best cores that will crash. I have all mine at -30, except core 1 and 7 (my best cores) are at -27.
It seems that -30 is also fine for me, except for cores 2 and 6 here.
AMD software can do this automatically too.
@@VeritasEtAequitas Do you get the same results though?
I kind of like knowing that the values I use are the best possible values that won't make my PC crash.
PPT@180w & Thermal Limit@255c !? Are you trying to cause a fire?
How big of impact is going from CL16 to CL14
Am I doing something wrong here? With a negative offset of just 5 on core 2 and 4 which gives errors in occt and the rest of the cores det to 30, all the cores work at the same clockspeed during heavy testing like cinebench or OCCT. Also all the cores recieve the same amount of voltage. This is on my 5600X.
Next time you ask people for help, try not to use any ambiguity causing abbreviations. What the hell is 'det'?
@@AndyU96 Should be "set"... Sorry. Was trying to type on a samsung phone. XD
I’m running my 5800x in 1440p with a 2080 Super. After tweaking mine, it now stays under 60c when gaming and holds boost from 4900 to 5050mhz a lot longer on more cores. It is definitely a beast, whether your gaming or creating.
What cooler? Thanks
cpu temp when gaming will depend on the game, and I call bullshit on 60c in ALL games.
@@massivemikeh am wondering the same, liquid cooling I suspect given the those clock speeds
@@thatusernameistaken970 with tweaking, its possible mine averages at 48c at fh5, 51 at doom eternal, highest one I saw was in cyberpunk and it was 55c average :P
With 360 AIO ofc
Max CPU Boost clock override 200 positive or negative ? Which one ?
It sounds the same as using a load line optimization and a non locked multiplier with a voltage boost like I have been doing for several years. Is there a difference between PBO and a non locked multiplier?
I don't think going all cores negative 20 will stay stable, honestly. There are several ways to stress test whether your cores are stable, but the most convenient and easy way to go is to use a tool named corecycler, which stresses individual cores. If one core crashes while testing, the tool will tell you the exact cores and you can adjust the voltage individually afterwards and run the test again until you are satisfied with the results. That said, my 1st gen 5800X cores range from -20 to +12. Using the tool takes you about 2-3 nights to optimize all cores depending on how many times you want to test a single core. It's smart to start with 2-3 iterations (e.g. 3iterations x 6minutes per core x 8 cores = 144 minutes total) at the start to make quick progress and then end it with a longer test (5? 7? 10? iterations) to be sure.
Perhaps somebody might find this helpful.
Very useful! Thank you a lot
If it does not crash in cnebench does it mean were ok?
@@ivanstanisavljevic8245 Cinebench is a full load test. You only test if your system is stable under load (CPU is near or at exactly 100%) - which is a rather rare scenario. Games or your random browsing are more dynamic scenarios, meaning they can go up and down all the time. So to test these scenarios you use tools like corecycler to save time and/or you just browse and game like you do as usual. I prefer corecycler, because it literally tells me what core crashes while testing, so I can adjust the specific core and give it more voltage if needed.
Thanks man you really helped me out
If in corecycler all passed the test it should be okay the stability?
Pretty sure there is something wrong with ur PBO settings, you hit some limits from the looks of it. My 5700x hits 100W in gaming and 122W in heavy load with similar frequencies, yours should beat mine. What scores you get in cinebench r23?
could you please include standard deviation in your graphs?
Wonder what's the difference between an all core negative offset and per core offset..
I set mine to an all core negative offset of 13
Per core more performance,stability and temps.
I need help please. So I’m a serious noob at this stuff like I’m scared of my BIOS haha and don’t really understand it all. Basically I have a 5800x and I was playing BDO and horizon zero dawn and my cpu temps where about 85°c boosting at 4850mhz on BDO while gaming this is with AMD’s precision boost turned on, if I turn it off it only boosts to stock 3800mhz. I tried PBO2 and added a value of -20 that I was told was best to try at first but when gaming now it only boosts to 4750mhz, my temps are a lot lower only seeing a max of 75°c but I noticed my fps lower in benchmarks on other games like horizon zero dawn and shadow of the tomb raider I’m losing like 25 fps. I don’t know what to do? Shall I try -10 or -15 to lower temps and would that not reduce my fps as much? Any advice would be appreciated. -20 seriously helps temps but I’m seeing a decrease in performance, not sure if I should mess around with some other values like -5 to -15 and see if it lowers temps but keeps performance the same?
if your not sure what your doing ad just reset your bios and switch on XMP for your ram and that's it
I did this and my hdmi and ports aren’t working my pc can turn on but the gpu is not displaying anyone think they can help me thank you
mine is only 50% at 260W ppt and my TDC is at 52% on 160 my EDC at 150 is 98%
did i do something wrong?
yeah, too high numbers for marginal performance boost
All you need is a good cooler to keep the cpu cool for better Stability and you can easily push it beyond 200mhz in pbo with about negative 18-34 per core.
Such a shame amd limits it to only 200mhz max boost overide...... I could easily do 300 on my 5600x
27c in a 5800x is wild. Mine starts around 40c. How did you get your temps that low?
probably a $400 360mm aio
@@theminecraftnoob9357 fair enough.
he also put his aio at 100%, both fans and pump
I managed to get mine down to the low 30s by negative curve optimiser. Ambient temp also dropped since its autumn in the southern hemisphere now. I have a 240mm aio.
My cpu goes to 90°c with similar settings but i have an a320-h and Stock cooler with artic silver 5, what can i do?
The stock cooler isn't sufficient for OC with this CPU. You need a bigger one, preferably dual tower or a AiO with 280 or 360mm rad area.
Your cooler is bad. Buy be quiet dark rock pro4 or any similar
I don't use PBO at all mine just overclocks automatically to 4.5 ghz when I'm playing games and running benchmarks. If I try to overclock manually it just crashes.
I did the curve optimized on my 5800x and it set my cores to -30, set my Core clock from 4.8Mhz to 4.2Mhz and my cpu temps that were JUMPING to 70c now gradually climb to about 53c which is an amazing difference. Now I just need to go in an tweak the other setting in Ryzen Master to get a little bit more Mhz out of it, as my CPU power is only at 55w I ran a GeekBench it came back at 9656 Multicore.
Bro i get over 90c and around 75c in idle, with a liquid cooling system, is that normal?
@@jackhanma376 bro with 5800x ? in game im at 80degree also 50c in idle amd cpu are thermal consumeers
@@moragas8299 I have returned it, probably it was broken, I’ve bought a new motherboard and a new cooler and the temps were still always around 90 so I assumed it was a cpu problem
@@jackhanma376 oh cool, and since u returned it, did you see better results ?
@@moragas8299 i have yet to receive the new one
So should I just turn on pob (enable) for my ryzen 5 3600
Yeah it was an improvement for my 3600
any chips without x have higher overclocking potential
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Amazing stats, but no warzone 1 or 2 testing....
temperatures and power consumption matter a lot, even if you use water cooling, but you didnt show them for some reason. also why so high voltage on ddr? most 3600 ddr kits have xmp with 1.35V but you have 1.46V which is a bit too high imo
If it’s Samsung b die that’s not too much that’s safe for daily. If micron e die its a bit high
But tweaking is the fun part
should i get the the 5700x for € euro 189,- or the 5800x for € 219,- or the 5800x3d for € 289,00
3d is the best by FAR
my 5800x is running idle at 50 degrees. but yours is at 28. Do you know why? mine is completely stock and never overclocked.
airflow in your pc case is poor or your cpu fan isn't great, or your io whichever you use. I have the Noctua Nh-u12 CPU fan and 3 other fans, my 5800x idles at 35, and while playing games it goes to 50-60. another note is not many people know but the 5800x is built to run at a higher temp. according to AMD at least. they say it can run at 90 degrees and it'll be fine, although it's not recommended
Mine is also running at around 30-35 degrees, with ambient of 27 degrees. I have a 240 AIO.
And i ran Curve optimizer, that helped alot! It was running hotter on idle before i did that, think it was more like 45-50 and spiking to 80c just by opening chrome etc. Now its not spiking as much.
Don't bother. Got it. Thanks.
28ºc on bios imagine, mine is 50
como lo solucionaste
Sadly the most CPU demanding game I know is not included in your list, Microsoft Flight simulator. I get 25 fps with a Ryzen 7 5800x and a RTX 3080
Same. Any luck getting extra FPS
Overclocking?
@@drronbon In benchmarks yes, but nothing to see in the game. I've been playing around with different settings and it seems that "Terrain Level of Detail" is the most demanding, so I turned that down.
@@matthiasbauer9238 Same. I resigned myself to the fact that undervolting will just help keep my CPU healthier for longer.
You must be living in a freezer cause 27c idle with an 5800x seems a dream mine goes 3x the first 10minutes,
once my cpu reach higher temps never goes back to 3x and stays 4x even idle.
And im with pbo disabled and negative curves.
Its sad cause the cpu apparently goes to 4.xghz and im stuck at 3.2 lol..
little difference !! i prefer stok settings
Pretty cool when your CPU hits 5 GHz but ...Its all fun until your PC start restarting itself over and over :D Had to turn it off... I guess 4.8 GHz is more than enough for me
Mine keeps restarting over and over what do I do?
@@traviscole9761 turn it off
@@SkillerWolfCFM gee I didn’t think about that it just restarted can’t get back into the bios lol
@@traviscole9761 turn it off completely by the power button and after turning on spam delete button on your keyboard. If it isn't working then try CMOS reset (take the battery from your motherboard for few minutes and insert afterwards).
@@SkillerWolfCFM just did the CMOS lol it’s under my 3080ti and this bitch is too big so I had to take the GPU out plug it back in start it then put CMOS back in after taking GPU out again LMAOOO wow that was a headache I guess it’s just some people have better 5800x it’s like a lottery or something and I can’t run as much as them?
no curves - no problems, with curves gta v crashes
Is it safe ?
its hazardous
Do with 5900x
это серьезно он говорит это видео просроченное:) или это так переводит?
B550 tomahawk. 5800x. Did your settings then blue screened and had to recover pc
You're testing is gaming test is flawed. You should be testing at lowest settings possible to allow for the CPU to generate more frames so leave the GPU blind scenarios.
Your rationale is also flawed. What you're suggesting would produce test results that are even futher away from representing the actual performance gain that normal people would get. Most people don't even have a 3080, let alone a 3090. Also, someone with a 3070 would definitely be playing on high grarphics settings and likely at 1440p at least, which renders the CPU performance gains due to overclocking found in this video impertinent to the typical gamer already, and your method would make it even more impertinent.
@@AndyU96 I have a 6800XT overclocked to 2650 mHz. I play on low settings at 1440p and hit 300 FPS in Apex Legends.
@@JonLaRue And why exactly could you possibly want any more than 144 fps?
@@AndyU961) I have a 270 hz monitor 2) There's numerous videos showing why having max fps leads to better performance (most up to date info on screen).
cpu overclock does not matter a whole lot in gaming. He should have done cinebench, blender, AE which are more cpu demanding tasks. This is where the overclock would really show improvements.
You must try with WARZONE
no big difference cause you didnt compare it on low settings
This video is good for someone who knows bios. You lost me immediately stating adjust power limits and showed the screen etc. please slow down and show me step by step. I have a 5800x and still learning. I'll use other channels from now to learn this because youre way too fast