Ryzen 7 5800X Overclocked to 4775 MHz With ASUS Dynamic OC Switching | SkatterBencher #17
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Quick video to guide you through the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Zen 3 Vermeer and ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero overclocking process. With the benefit of custom loop water cooling, I could easily reach 4775GHz all core stable at 1.4V. Performance increase is about 13.50%.
I also explain what's ASUS Dynamic OC Switching and how it can help you overcome some of the AMD overclocking trade-offs.
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Hardware list:
- AMD Ryzen 7 5800X amzn.to/2I99w42
- ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero amzn.to/3oTXknt
- EK-Quantum Magnitude D-RGB - 115x Nickel + Plexi amzn.to/30BexZO
- EK-KIT P360 amzn.to/30MLt1V
- Open Benchtable: openbenchtable.com/
- ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Ti amzn.to/3fa70W6
- GSKILL TridentZ Royal DDR4-3200 16GB amzn.to/3e5hC7M
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:42 System Specifications
02:28 AMD Zen 3 Constraints
04:28 Stock Performance
05:05 Step #1: Enable PBO
06:07 Step #2: 4600 MHz Prime 95 Stable
08:13 Step #3: 4775 MHz All-Core Maximum
09:20 Step #4: ASUS Dynamic OC Switching
13:40 How To Set Up Dynamic OC Switching
15:24 Wrap Up
Check out more videos to learn how to overclock:
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- Ryzen 9 5950X: • Ryzen 9 5950X Overcloc...
- Ryzen 7 3800XT: • Ryzen 7 3800XT Overclo...
- Ryzen 9 3900XT: • Ryzen 9 3900XT Overclo...
- Core i5-10600K: • Core i5-10600K Overclo...
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- Core i9-10900K: • Core i9-10900K Overclo...
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Underrated channel. Clear and straight to the point.
This is just the BEST 5800x OC video to date, period. Much better than the rest. This is a way under rated channel. Subscribed.
Thanks for the kind words!
I think i did something wrong because pc wont load no more . Oof , welp, gotta reset the bios now…. Woop
@SkatterBencher hi there I want to use this process in my 5800x with asus mobo hero 8. But question while following this procedure do I need to touch the other pbo setting located in Advance setting under amd OC menu?
This video is amazing
Great video- my Asus ROG STRIX B550i board comes at the end of the year, I can’t wait to test this out on my 5800X! Thanx for the great info!
Have fun!
heya, how it went? Im between the Asus b500i and the Gigabyte and only the VRM stands between the choice. Thanks
wow great video. super easy to understand. thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
@SkatterBencher hi there I want to use this process in my 5800x with asus mobo hero 8. But question while following this procedure do I need to touch the other pbo setting located in Advance setting under amd OC menu?
Hello, is running a 5800x at 4.8ghz at 1.4v all core safe for daily light use? It passed cinebench r23 and only hit 70c max. Only use pc mainly for gaming and running Citrix for work.
i have the asus b550 gaming f and have Ai tweaker any tips to change to extreme?
What settings do i have to use for ram if i have 4x8 ram 3600mhz cl18 trident z neo?
Got my 5800X to 4600 MHz and G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz CL14 RAM up to 3600MHz CL16 on a ROG Strix X470-F Gaming board using these settings (with custom water cooling). I'm happy for now, but will be trying to push RAM to 3800MHz and FCLK to 1900 MHz once bios updates can stabilize this better. This actually boosted my overall gaming performance and FPS, including much higher TimeSpy Extreme score (went up over 1000 points). Thanks!
Do you have to have special memory to set 3600MHz? I have GSkill Ripjaws 3200 CL16 16-18-18-38. Would I be able to go with your settings?
Hello, I would like to know having a ryzen 7 5800x with a 6800xt + asus tuf gaming x570 to oc the ryzen 7 5800x by copying your settings I do not risk anything? (sorry I know nothing about ocerclock)?
Asus ROG STRIX x570 F-Gaming with 4021 firmware does not have the Dynamic OC Switching function, is it possible?
why is my pc crashing and hitting high cpu temp i followed every step ?
So basically, I just settled on PBO Curve -10 all core, +150mhz (so I can hit 5Ghz occasionally), and OC’d my memory and timings (including subtimings) to 3600mhz and just let it do whatever. They already run so well, there’s basically very little actual performance gains to see lol.
can you please send me instructions on how to overclock on updated bios from Asus? AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 8core
Love the content very informative helpful and idiot proof. 9/10 imo a comparison of performance via graphs would make it 10/10. Examples can be found with Hardware Unboxed👍🏾
Thanks for the kind words and will see how I can improve the graphs!
This is great content, but it would be nice to see some bar graphs or at least a bigger table to compare those results.
Thanks for the feedback! Do you have any examples from other channels which you think do it right?
@@SkatterBencher hey man, I was wondering if this overclocking guide is applicable to a 5900x?
additionally, would I need to worry about particular parts in the build struggling with Overclocking the 5900x?
Corsair 850W TX850M
< PSU
ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING < motherboard.
Great video
Thanks!
Cool video but what about almost all 5800x running 90 + on cinebench. Now , how can we got good temps AND performance. A guide talking about the new PBO2 update could be usefull since it fix the high temps on 5800x. Ive been messing with 'PPT,TDC AND EDC' getting awesome temps for performance price.
Subscribed!
Thanks!
What dram timings should be set for 3600 mhz and cl 18-22-22-42
Hi! Thanks for the detailed video. Do you have any tips on how to test Manual OC stability? Thanks!
Thanks!
I always use 30 minute Prime95 Small FFTs as a worst case benchmark to test stability. You can use the various parameters to test your overclock in AVX and non-AVX scenarios.
I have had mine run at 4.7996, but cannot repeat it doh, running mainly at 4.7ghz on kracken 360 waterblock
Am I able to get a good OC on a 5800x with an x470 Mobo? Getting my CPU tomorrow.
Edit: With 3200mhz ram
Very great and detailed video! May I ask if I can follow the same if I don’t have the same water cooling as yours?
Thanks for the kind words!
XMP and PBO can be enabled on most systems with decent cooling (meaning: more than just the stock cooler). PBO will automatically adjust the frequency and voltage based on the temperatures. So if your CPU gets too hot, it will decrease the frequency and voltage to ensure stability.
For the manual overclocking, you can follow the same process but it's highly unlikely you can just copy the settings and have it run stable.
Excuse me if this is a stupid question;
I have a 5950X, i was thinking about creating a BIOS profile (for gaming only) with one disabled CCX, in theory that would leave me with a "binned 5800X", is my thinking correct ?
Technically, yes.
If you disable 1 CCX on the 5950X, effectively you have 1 CCX with 8 cores enabled. That is the configuration of the 5800X. It's "binned" in the sense that the maximum turbo boost (Fmax) of the 5950X is 5050 MHz whereas the 5800X is only 4825 MHz. So, you'd have an 8-core Ryzen 5000 CPU which can boost to 5050 MHz. That is better than the 5800X.
However, it seems like a bit of a waste to disable 8 out of the 16 cores. I would suggest to just enable PBO. In case you're gaming and only using 8 out of the 16 cores, Precision Boost Overdrive will automatically reallocate the available power budget to the cores that are being used. That extra power budget will be used to boost the cores to higher frequencies anyway.
Hello im about to do this method but i have a few questions before i start.
#: 1Is it ok to leave the core voltage to auto?
#2:Theres a 2 PBO settings inside the bios "Ai Tweaker" & "AdvanceAmd pbo" do i need to enable the other pbo setting in "Advance" tab or in "Ai tweaker" only?
#3: do you recommend adding +200mhz on the pbo or should i just leave the rest to auto?
Thats all my questions. I'm Waiting your response. THANK YOU.
Hi
#1: yes, no problem. Nowadays CPUs are pretty intelligent so they figure out the right voltage for your desired CPU frequency
#2: Pick the Ai Tweaker one, though I think they are the exact same setting.
#3: First try without. See if you're hitting 4825 MHz very often during benchmarks. If yes, then try adding the +200 fmax.
Best of luck!
@@SkatterBencher Got it! 👍Thankyou so much!😁
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Thanks Tim Apple, haha :)
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Other than PBO, will the rest of the overclock affect game fps? I've only read one anecdote about how this overclock wont affect gaming fps? What are your thoughts?
Enabling XMP & increasing Fclk can help a little bit, but PBO will be the main source of gaming performance increase.
why do I get a blackscreen after the 1st manuell overclocking? the pc still looks fine and the mobo is on as well. Everything is running but i don't see anything on my monitor. I have the b550f
Possibly one of the settings does not agree with your system. My first thought would be memory instability. So you can try leaving the memory at default when applying the overclocking settings.
Great vid. But a bit annoying you didn't include the actual scores after the first time. Would like to compare to my own results and decide whether to do a manual OC on top of my PBO2. Haven't done the % on my own results and even if I had, my stock results ofc differs from yours.
Other than that, really interesting to learn about the dynamic switching. I've been lucky with my 5800X, and it runs stable with an all core -30 + plus tweaks to PPT, EDC and TDC. Can't I set both a manual OC on top of the PBO2 I've got and leave the core VID at auto?
Thanks for the kind words. I've started including the actual results now in my videos.
As for your question: the core VID ties in with your manual overclock, so you need to set it where you need it to have a stable overclock. If you leave it on Auto, then the motherboard auto-rules will decide what to set it to.
im able to game with my 5800x at 4958ghz on two cores peak with all cores hitting 4823ghz average. I on air but i have my ram and everything else pushed. i backed everything back down to 4700ghz and i gained 50fps on cold war like it was nothing.
Is the timing setup just for the RAM that you use or is it the same for every other 3600MHz Kit? (I have corsair vengeance)
It's just for the RAM I use. I would recommend enabling XMP rather than trying to configure the timings manually unless you thoroughly understand memory timings
What do you think of the other PBO settings "Max CPU Boost Clock Override" that a lot of people set to 200 MHz, and also the Fmax Enhancer. Did you fiddle with those at all?
edit: I see now towards the end that you left them on Auto. I just got a Dark Hero and will be upgrading!
I must admit, embarrassingly, I only started digging into PBO tuning in my 5600X and 5700G videos.
For the 5700G video I spend the majority of the time tuning PBO 2 and Curve Optimizer. Long story short: I'm a big big fan :)
What if I clock my memory at 3600mhz with 1800mhz now my pc won’t boot
What ever setting of yours I'm using the computer won't load up.
Specs: 5800x
Asus X570 prime pro
Can you give me a hint what am I doing wrong or what might cause the issue?
Which OC strategy are you trying?
I can't find register " Tweakers Paradise" on my rog strix b550 f-gaming... In the register "digi+ vrm" is something called "vddcr cpu voltage" - is that the same? Sorry, i am very careful in switching things in bios... thanks for your help
I don't think the Tweaker's Paradise is on the STRIX boards as it reserved for the ROG series boards. What setting are you trying to change?
@@SkatterBencherthanks for your reply. I am trying to change the cpu frequency and the associated voltage. i want to find the sweet spot
Hey, thank you for video. I have x570 and 5800x two stick of ram 3600. Every changes I make will stop posting and I have to redo all changes. Help please
Are you trying all changes at once or trying one by one?
@@SkatterBencher all at once
@@SkatterBencher so basicly my RAM is at different settings. Another thing My PC restart at 4700 speed. Temp and voltage don't go above 1.32 even when setting 1.45 cpu core vlt.
Best video ever, I got hold on dark hero and 5800x, with 240 mm arctic liquid freezer 240 aio and in corsair carbide 275r case O was able to oc to 4700 Mhz with 1.4 core VID without thermal throttling idling at 83 degrees temp
Cheers mate, really appreciate the love! And congrats on your overclock :)
I have a 5800x on a 240mm AIO OC to 4.7GHz at 1.275V with 4000MHz C16-16-16-32 / 2000FCLK on an ASUS Dark Hero X570. Any recommendations with OC Switching?
That looks pretty good already. Dynamic OC switching allows you to boost to 4825MHz with PBO. You can also use Fmax offset to add an additional 200MHz to your PBO maximum boost.
Overclocking is so confusing! I just got my 5800x. Is it normal for my CPU Voltage to stay at 1.45v while gaming? I look at my Ryzen Master on my second monitor it is always at 1.4 to 1.45v while playing Apex Legends. When I idle at desktop it goes back to 1 to 1.07v. When I move my cursor on desktop randomly super fast CPU Volt go up to 1.4 and stay there however long I keep my mouse moving at rapid speed. Temperature seems to be normal tho at 55 to 60c while gaming and 35-40 while idling. Is this voltage safe when gaming? Thanks in advance
Yes it’s safe
Yes, this is expected behavior. I have a video up on Precision Boost Overdrive that talks a little about 1.4V+ voltage ruclips.net/video/1wcU8PrdGLE/видео.html
for a Ryzen 5800X processor, for temperatures and performance, do you prefer an ASUS rog strix x570-E or MSI X570 Unify motherboard?
Hard to give a recommendation given I've tried neither
The Series of RogStrix B550, X570 E and X (Not F) its really nice boards. The MSI Series Unify plus have the best chip, especially for RAM OC. Two nice series!
I had reset the bios to defult, and motherboard die. -_- And even with new AMD motherboard, it never go beyond 4.5Ghz. GPU speed drop from 250fps to 200fps.
I have a ROG strix x470 with the beta Bios and the 5800x. This should work with that too right?
The general overclocking process will be very similar, but of course the results may vary. Also, you won't be able to use Dynamic OC Switching.
Good luck!
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nice video
Thanks!
Well I’m ignorant to oc now I tried this and I get nothing but black screen no boot help what do I do?
Use the Clear CMOS button it jumper to reset the BIOS, then try again with lower settings. For example try again without the memory frequency and timings
Hi, congrats for the content! I have a question: It´s worth overclock a Ryzen 7 5800X using a GTX 1070 Ti? I´m not using for render, just games.
Whats the best configuration for this scenario? Thank you very much!
I think it's always worth to get extra performance, but that's my personal value judgment and of course others may disagree.
The easiest way to unlock performance on Ryzen CPUs is to enable Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) and XMP. If you want to go further, you can manually tune the PBO parameters with tools like Fmax and Curve Optimizer to get even more performance.
@@SkatterBencher thank you for the answer. In my case for gaming in stock configuration, the CPU utilization is 30%, and 99% of GPU. So I think the GPU is in your limit. Maybe overclocking the CPU I´ll not gain a single FPS. Or I´m wrong?
Thank you again.
Overclocking the CPU might still help :)
When i try "Step 2" on my pc it wont start at all and theres a yellow light on my board.
My specs are
Ryzen 7 5800x
Rog strix B550-f gaming
ASUS GeForce RTX 3060Ti Dual OC V2 8GB
Corsair 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Vengean
Corsair RM850 2021 / 850W / 80+ Gold
Thanks in advance for the answer
The lights you see are called "ASUS Q-LED" and are used for diagnostics. The yellow light would be DRAM, indicating your memory isn't stable. I suggest you can still try the OC Strategy #2, but just don't set the memory frequency, timings, and voltage.
hello，after watch your video i got my 5800x running auto 4.7ghz all core，1.385volt at40c temp，just wondering is it safe to play 24/7 in this volt？its just auto setting，and in windows asus ai shows up cpu running at5.8ghz 1.385volt 39-40temp its weird can u help me？
Hi - I'm not sure what the ASUS AI suite software issue would be as I hardly ever use it.
1.385V at 40C is no problem, however what are the temperatures under load?
thanks for repaly，i checked its around 66c temperature 1.386v ，but in asus shows up 5820.4MHX 123.8x47 ，44.0-61.2watts is it ok for me to usr this auto setting for 24/7/365 or do i need change the volt？thank u
i just download the ryzen master，it says temperature at46c-75c，
hey man，just wondering what would be 4.7ghz temp and volt be like in normal average，5800x
you don't recommend using the ryzen mater software for auto oc?
I prefer using BIOS to set my overclock rather than relying on software. So I don't not recommend it, I just don't really use it :)
can you do video on how to oc this ryzen 7 5800 on a msi MB ?
I need help, after doing this my pc won't turn on, the fans are loud and the ram led is flashing on my Mainboard please help!
Press the CMOS clear button which will reset the settings and you can start from scratch
@@SkatterBencher thanks for the help!
Though I already solved it by flashing my bios.
How do you think this oc compares to your i9-10900k??
I saw in some reviews that at stock this cpu trades blows with i9-10900k in gaming but what if we overclock both and put them against each other...
do you think i9-10900k at 5.3ghz will be better in gamimg than this oc ??
Hard to say which is better since I didn't do a head-to-head comparison. I'm also not really trying to compare performance across platforms, but rather see how I can get more performance out of a specific platform. With that in mind:
- I like AMD PBO better than Intel TB/TVB. I'm not sure why, just feels like it's more aggressive and opportunistic
- I like Intel manual OC better than AMD manual OC because on Intel platform I have more control over my settings and there are less compromises. I feel like on Intel platform I can max out a system better than on AMD platform.
it will be similar in 1440P and 4K, in 1080P will be Ryzen better. Also plus for Ryzen is much less powerconsumption in hard load. 10900K on 5.3 GHz (which is not possible to get stable!) will have in benchmarks over 250W (only CPU). Example mine 10900K on 5.25 GHz in Cinebench consumed 315W (only CPU, not PC!). That is huge and over Threadrippers on stock settings.
@@FlanK3rCZ at 1440p and 4k they will tie even at stock i think... i was wondering about the 1080 but looks like you might be right... but think they be close in game benchmarks
I do get my 5.3ghz oc stable on everything except prime 95 small fft... im getting similar power consumption to you at around 315w in cb... and similar number in aida64... its been running for two months with no stablility issues... also imc running a heavy 32gb ram oc to 4200mhz cas 15... so far have been happy with it
@@butcherredalert1013 yes, believe me, Im CPU crazy enthusiast, Im study reviews almost 10 years for CPus with every CPU product. Ussually at least 10 reviews per model :D Some reviews I have also saved on my HDD and sometimes I read from nostalgy again reviews of Penryn, Nehalem or Phenom, FX CPus :)
@@FlanK3rCZ thats great man. I did agree with your comment. Maybe you misunderstood...
but you were saying you cant get 5.3ghz stable on i9-10900k... i disagree with that... it will depend on silicon lottery... i was able to get mine to 5.3ghz but couldnt do it on my friend cpu...
Any word on when this board is dropping?
Looks like it's available on Amazon now amzn.to/3oTXknt
My PC:
TufGaming B550M wifi
5800x
water cooler
Setting:
4.75
1.3v
level 3
110%
Actual:
4748.89MHz
1.2625-1.2687v
77oC
124.6w
Half an hour FurMark CPU GPU dual ✅
I used the MSI OC BIOS and dragon center to stabilize my 5800x at 4.6GHz and still gradually climbing with long gaming sessions in between
With only a Galahad 240 as a cooler on it I scored a 15,122 on Cinebench R23
It took 1.425v to run CB20 at 4.775? What LLC?
LLC was kept default, so auto-rules apply
I have a question, what kind of bios version do you use?
I used BIOS 0090 for this video
@@SkatterBencher okay thx, i don‘t find this bios on the Asus Website
0090 is a pre-release BIOS, so it's unlikely it would be available on the website. I think 2601 would be the public equivalent.
Hi! Thanks for the nice video! What an underrated channel... Subbed! :)
May i have a question (or a couple of questions :D) please?
My rig is:
5800X + ASUS TUF X570-plus gaming + G.Skill 32 GB (2*16) F4-3200C14D-32GTZN (Samsung B-Die) + Corsair HX1000i + NZXT Kraken X73 AIO 360 + RTX 3080 (my AM modeules are on the motherboard's and the CPU's RAM QVL too)
The basic PBO is boosting my CPU up to 4850 MHz (with 1.44V, and not on all cores) - and i want an all core boost with lower V (if it's possible).
The questions:
1. is that possible to reach 4850 MHz on all cores?
2. should i switch my RAM from 3200C14 to 3600C16? (technically 3200C14 is a bit faster! 8.75 real latency compared to 3600C16's 8.88 real latency, which is a bit slower)
3. is 1.4V OK for all core boost? isn't that too high? (sorry for the dumb question, but im not a rich guy, saving money for 1 year to buy this rig, and i do not want to fry out my CPU in 1-2 years)
(+1. i read about that CNQ was deleted from AM4 motherboards' BIOS. is there a similar option that i should turn OFF?)
Thank you so much for the answers, and sorry for my english if i made some mistakes, the english was the 3rd foreign language i learned, so my grammar is a piece of... cake... :D
Hi, thanks for the kind words and the sub! To answer your questions:
1. I think 4850MHz on all cores is a big ask. My experience is that PBO would boost Ryzen 5000 all cores to around 4.4G with custom loop water cooling. However, I do believe 4850 MHz should be possible for every core provided they're running single-threaded applications.
2. I don't think it's worth to spend extra money. Just can just try to load XMP, of your 3200 kit then increase the memory ratio for a little overclocking.
3. Generally, I don't think there's any need to worry about voltage if you're using PBO for overclocking. PBO is the overclocker's extention of the Precision Boost 2 algorithm and any frequency/voltage is still governed by the AMD algorithm. You can encourage the CPU to pursue higher voltages and frequency with the Scalar and Boost Override options, but ultimately the safeguards within the PB2 algorithm will protect your CPU.
... and your English is just fine, don't worry :)
@@SkatterBencher Thanks!
undervolt for the ryzen 5950 and still gain in performance :P ty (decrease the temperature for example of the processor and try to gain a performance gain if possible.)
I have a NZXT 360mm AIO should I lower voltage as the CPU runs hot.
Lowering the voltage will definitely help lowering the CPU temperature 👍
I got an 5800x all core oc of 4.8GHz @1.3v with a Asus Rog Strix x570 E, LLC lvl4 VDDR lvl 3 with optimised on both. Doing an all core oc kills single core performance.
Nice chip, congrats!
Dam 1.3v nice.. I couldn’t get 4.7ghz at 1.3... had to bump to 1.325 volts for 4.7.
X570 taichi here with a nzxt kraken with noctua fans
4.7G is not too shabby either. Nice one!
I have the same config, can u help me?? What is LLC?? And VDDR?
I couldnt post with these settings. Got ram error light on my motherboard and had to flasj the bios.
Running b550i with g.skill 32gb 3600 mhz
Reflash the BIOS? Couldn't you just clear CMOS and reset the BIOS to default settings?
@@SkatterBencher
Dont know how to do that, reflashing BIOS with USB resets to default settings anyway :)
I tried out the all core overclock but it wasnt for me. Sure it improves cinebench performance for MC but it has little effect for most real world use. Im a bigger fan of simply PBO and curve optimization.
And wouldnt a constant overclock with static voltage degrade the silicone quicker?
hey man, I was wondering if this overclocking guide is applicable to a 5900x?
additionally, would I need to worry about particular parts in the build struggling with Overclocking the 5900x?
Corsair 850W TX850M
< PSU
ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING < motherboard.
Hi!
Yes, the methods shown in this guide are also applicable to the 5900X. I also have a video out on overclocking the 5900X: ruclips.net/video/bXyyESN87iM/видео.html
The key constraints for a successful overclock are: (1) cooling and (2) luck. Cooling will enable you to use higher voltages which in turn will enable higher frequencies. Luck comes in play as some CPUs are have a lot of headroom and some have very little.
PSU and motherboard are relevant to a lesser degree. As long as you pick quality parts (which you did!) you'll be fine overclocking for daily use. Unless you're looking to chase records with liquid nitrogen of course :)
So your last three videos are excellent. Are we to conclude that chips with fewer cores clock higher? Or is this chip to chip variation? Of course you would need a bunch of 5800x chips to answer that
Thanks for the kind words! On the overclocking side I think there are a couple of conclusions:
1) Zen 3 overclocking is pretty much the same like Zen 2 overclocking
2) Zen 3 has about 150MHz higher headroom than Zen 2 (Matisse XT)
3) Higher core count CPUs have less headroom; CPUs with fewer cores enabled in each CCX have more headroom
4) Precision Boost Overdrive is still awesome for easy performance gains
5) Dynamic OC Switching solves a major issue with AMD overclocking (single threaded performance loss when manual OC)
Any manipulation with memory speed makes not posting either
Just for the record guys, these chips are way more efficient than most people think they are. My 5800x is prime95 stable at 4.6Ghz @ 1.18V (with a LLC at medium i give it 1.226V which under load goes down to 1.178V VROUTat the CPU)
I see many people and channels go immidiately over 1.3V but even at 4.7 Ghz i am well under that. Maby im lucky with my chip but the 5000 series tend to not need that much voltage at all in my experience.
Very nice video! Liked and subbed. Relevant for me as I have ASUS B550-F Gaming MB waiting for my 5800X. I don't think it has Dynamic OC but the video is still mighty helpful. One question about RAM: I was thinking of getting a Crucial Ballistix 32GB 3600 MHz CL16 kit with 16-16-18-18-38 timings @ 1.35V. What is your educated guess which would be better for performance: to OC the FCLK to 1900 MHz (should be doable with all Zen 3 CPUs) and the RAM to 3800 MHz @ 1.4V and keep the timings, or just try to tighten the timings to 16-16-16-16-36 as you did with stock 1.35V (or do you think it is even possible and I still need to apply 1.4V)?
Thanks for the kind words!
Personally, I would stick with XMP timings and just increase the frequency to 3800. This will give the quickest gains for a daily system.
Unless you know your memory kit very well, tuning memory timings is a tedious process. Unless you're chasing benchmark scores or you're prepared to put several hours into tuning, I wouldn't recommend it.
Good luck and enjoy the Ryzen 5800X. It's a great platform!
@@SkatterBencher Thank you for your response! Actually I found an in-depth review of the Crucial Ballistix just after I posted my question and it seems the kit is very capable of overclocking and tight timings with even 3800 MHz CL15 @ 1.425V possible... www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/crucial-ballistix-ddr4-3600-32gb-2x16gb-bl2k16g36c16u4r-review.1264873/
Great! Thanks for sharing. Love the fact you didn't just settle for my suggestion and went looking for answers. That's a really good attitude. Keep it up!
@@SkatterBencher I found the page before you answered! :-) still thanks for sharing your thoughts, maybe I go with the 3800 MHz XMP timings or crank them to 16-16-16-36 as you did in this video because 3,8 GHz CL15 is at the limits of stability and I don't want to overvolt too much 🤔
Can u do ine for the 5700x
Hello, just got my dark hero and a 5800x. Im a first time AMD user. I tried your settings regarding manual OC of my RAM. I cant boot when entering your numbers. im just stuck after reboot and i need to flash it. i have these: G.Skill TridentZ Neo 2x 16 gb 3600 mhz CL16 (16-19-19-39)
For RAM I would suggest to simply enable D.O.C.P.. This will make the motherboard use the memory XMP settings. That will get you within 95% of your peak ram performance.
@@SkatterBencher thank you, which of your OC guides would u recommend for pure gaming? Still trying to learn :)
My standard recommendation for AMD Ryzen is to enable Precision Boost Overdrive and enable XMP/DOCP.
If you're keen on spending a little time tuning, I'd suggest "PBO Tuned" strategy which involves playing with Curve Optimizer. For your reference you can check out OC Strategies #1 and #2 from my latest video (also with ASUS board): ruclips.net/video/2ZW36TPhFz8/видео.html
So I just copied this setting to my asus b550 a gaming with ryzen 7 5800k and turn black. How do I fix it?
Clear CMOS will reset the BIOS and allow you to start from scratch
@@SkatterBencher what if I still want to overclock?
What can I do if I still want to overclock?
You can always try with lower values and see if that's stable. I would first try not setting the memory timings/frequency ... that may be the reason why your system didn't boot.
Is this guide for a 5800X or 5950X? 14:35 shows a 5950X
Ha, yes, I realized after making the video that the Prime95 result I use for explaining is the one from the 5950X. Don't worry though, the process of finding the right current threshold is identical.
Can i ask whats the motherboard you overckocked with?
ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero :)
yeah i would still apply a negative voltage offset in dynamic mode, thats allows pbo stay longer in higher multis.
In theory yes, because a lower voltage would result in a lower operating temperature. However, if you lower the voltage then also the system may be unstable at the target frequency.
@@SkatterBencher 3600xt negative offset 0.100v + PBO. Prime 95 (Smallffts-AVX2+CineBenchR15+Intelburntest) - stable auf einem X370 ...
Nice!
Wouldn’t boot for me even though I have the same or better specs. I’m thinking it’s probably the memory.
Reset all the memory settings. See if it boots. If yes, just try DOCP/XMP :)
Help my computer won’t post now it won’t boot up screen is black and keyboard won’t even turn on
You can "clear CMOS" and start from scratch!
My ROG B550-F Gaming doesn't boot anymore after following this :/
Stucks on DRAM led ... :'(
Just found that one of my 32GB RAM stick is dead after applying these settings, care guys
Is the stick dead or do you just need to reset the settings or maybe swap the DIMMs from position?
I think you missed max cpu boost overide by 200mhz
Do I dare do just the CPU OC and not the manual RAM timings?
The voltage seems a little bit high, my cpu can hit 4,7 ghz at 1.3 volts
Nice! I heard from various people they could do similar results with lower voltage. I guess I didn't win the silicon lottery with this chip :(
Is 1.42 vcore safe on 4800mhz oc ?
1.325v-1.350v is Mostly the safe voltage for Ryzen platform
when i presses save and exit my screen went black 😭what do i do now
Which settings did you apply?
@@SkatterBencher never mind i fixed it 🙂
I was gonna say clear cmos. Glad you fixed it!
Happy to hear!
I need a 5700x guide video
Your RAM is 3600, so you set your FCLK to 1800 (half of 3600). Is that intentional? Could you have set FCLK to 2000 and lost performance?
I have 3800 RAM which I plan on overclocking to 4000 CL14-15-15-36. Should I set my FCLK to 2000?
My memory is clocked at DDR4-3600 which is 1800MHz effective speed. It is running in sync with the FCLK.
I couldn't manage to get FCLK stable at 2000 MHz, sadly enough.
@@SkatterBencher Am I going to lose a lot of performance if I use 3200 MHz 16-16-.. RAM?
Loved your video maybe you can help
4 dim 8gb warhawk cl 18 supposed to be 4000mhz speed, can’t get it past 3700, running stable at 46.75-4.7 ghz on my 5800. Everything else is running perfect otherwise. 360mm push pull fans with noctua 3k fans pushing temps have been great
3080 102 megahash
3090 121 megahash
3070 61 megahash
Nice to hear you liked the video!
Have you tried turning on XMP to enable XMP-4000, then manually configure Asynchronous mode?
@@SkatterBencher figured it out, ram needs to be set to 1.5 v lol works perfect now
Good one, only edit your 6:07 - 8:12 title to 4600MHz PRIME stable :) (u have here 4325MHz)
Good catch!
The volt are not to high?
For my system it was okay but some people are not comfortable with elevated voltages.
What are the values for me to punch in? Voltage and multiplier. I am noob I need help
In the video I go through the process of setting up the BIOS. I would suggest the Prime 95 with AVX settings as a worst-case starting point. Though bear in mind I'm using custom loop water cooling, so temperatures are less of a concern than when using for example AIO or air cooling.
What psu are you running and will 600w be enough to overclock it a bit?
I'm using the Seasonic PRIME 850W Platinum (SSR-850PD Active PFC F3).
600W should be sufficient, though it definitely depends on the quality and of course the rest of your system components.
Is DOC different from manual OC?
DOS OC just combines manual OC and Precision Boost Overdrive. At a certain trigger point, DOS OC switches between the two overclocking modes
@@SkatterBencher And is it true that with ryzen 5000 series, you dont really need to go manual OC? Just enabling PBO is good enough?
It's definitely true that PBO is really, really good at providing the user with (easy and a lot of) additional performance.
The main restriction for manual OC is that you cannot configure the single thread boost frequency. Typically, the single thread max frequency is much higher than the all-core max frequency. So, with manual OC you will lose a lot of single threaded performance.
Sometimes, the manual OC for all-core exceeds the all-core PBO frequency and is close to the single thread PBO frequency. In that case, manual OC could make sense.
Another scenario where manual OC makes sense is if you are using the system mainly for high multi-core workload (i.e. rendering). Manual OC may allow you to increase the frequency higher than PBO (I saw +200MHz for 5950X).
Ic Ic thanks for explaining. For gaming and occasional vmware applications do you think manual oc is needed or pbo is enough?
Most likely PBO will suffice :)
Hate to say this, but my 5800x clocks to 4850 Mhz on stock. I have not even started to try and overclock it and still runs a maximum of 75 degrees.
Congrats!
Been heavily debating if it is worth doing a manual all core oc for my 5800x....I have it boosting to 5050 mhz with pbo enabled. With the new VF curve tuner I was able to reach 5100, but has stability issues.
Is asus oc switcher a feature specific to the dark version of the board? I dont have that on my crosshair hero 8
What are your voltage and other settings inside the motherboard (what kind of voltage settings do you use? Value, mode,etc) ? I have a B450 Tomahawk Max and I want to push the card as far as I can ( I have a Arctic 34 Esport Duo which is barely worse than a Dark Rock Pro 4 from Bequiet (by around 1- 2 Celsius))
Thanks!
@@w1n1x I currently just have PBO on advanced with the motherboard setting for current limits. Auto voltage since thats working fine for me. My cpu is boosting all core to 5.0 in cyberpunk lol...the best manual oc is like 4.8. I can't see how a manual oc could possibly out perform pbo. I do have my vrm set to the 400 mhz frequency response across the board tho. Helps a lot with signal integrity and response time
@@metzli5797 Oh, I see. Thanks! Will try it and get back to you!
@@w1n1x Oh, also I set the pbo frequency boost to max (+200 mhz). My board will technically allow me to set a custom max boost frequency. But I tried this and it seemed like maybe the current limits in that configuration were lower. Didnt get a much different boost clock with +400 mhz offset.
@@metzli5797 Did you set platform thermal throttle limit high in order to maintain boost high clock even in higher temps?
Also which mhz option did you choose under the option called : Max CPU boost clock override? Did you leave that at default?
Great! my 5800x with an asus b550-f gaming OC at 4.6GHz all core @ 1.250V it stable. and i try OC CPU ratio auto with PBO+Curve Optimizer negative 6 it work boost at 5050Mhz peak three core. Full load 83°C
That’s hot af my 5800x runs at 4.45 max load 55 c
What are the warzone fps
Sorry, didn't run warzone. There should be other creators out there that did though :)
@@SkatterBencher Okay just asking because Im getting an 5800x and 3070 but it's a micro atx board, so do smaller motherboards affect fps?
Smaller form factor should not impact performance. However, due to the smaller footprint it's possible you'll have less headroom for overclocking. But it still depends on the board. Some small motherboards are actually really good for overclocking. ROG Impact series are a good example.
Enjoy your 5800X!
@@SkatterBencher Okay thanks, overclocking a ton isn't really my goal, because this chip is a real good deal but thanks for helping me :)
I run mine 4.6 at 1.28 vcore. Temp is 82 c in r20 compared to pbo hit 90c throttle instant nearly same score
Congrats!
I suspect the difference in temperature is caused by PBO estimating the voltage required for full stability at that frequency (and conditions) to be slightly higher than what you can achieve manually.
How is the single core performance comparison?
@@SkatterBencher okay i just tested single core now and i only get 587 with manual oc and 618 with pbo. but multi score i get 6000 with manual oc and 5800 with pbo :S. would you not recommend lower temps and better multicore score?
@@SkatterBencher oh for note, i saw a video about curve optimiser in pbo. i set it to negative 20. and now i have 618 single core and 6100 multiscore with about same temps as my manual oc at 1.28 vcore.
so thank you for mention i should try a single core test for it was low compared to others :)
Great result! Yes, single core performance when doing manual OC vs PBO is not that great on Ryzen CPUs. Or, to put it differently, PBO is pretty good :)
Great my pc doesnt rebot now
CMOS clear, try without the memory settings
Scammy ASUS didn't enable Dynamic OC Switching on other ASUS boards.
DOS OC requires PCB level changes that cannot be done retro-actively on boards that are already out