How 'bout those single core synthetic scores? I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Demolishing Intel in that department. ALSO: I just realized I typed "Gigabyte Z490 Designare," but the board used for 10th Gen testing was the Vision G from the same manufacturer. The 9900KS was tested on a Z390 Designare board. Same kit of RAM used throughout.
@@GregSalazar That would be awesome! I have a Ryzen 1700 (oc's to 3.8Ghz) on x370 and was looking to upgrade to a 3700/x because I wouldn't have to change motherboards. I could be swayed if the 5700x/5800x on b550 is leaps and bounds better.
I think the sweet spot is the 5600x and 5900x. The 5800x has more competition especially since the i9 10850k, which is hitting $425 lately, is seemingly pretty close in performance. But damn that 5900x is nice
The intel for gaming sure, but you'd be surprised at how much performance zen offers for other things. Like you see intel do well on games right? That is on fresh installs. Zen will smash intel on the average PC. I would argue that its much better than shown here due to being able to handle everything else much better.
yeah i agree that the 5600x will be the way to go. I really don't think going to the 5900x will be worth it at this point till AMD lowers the price if you already have intel's top offerings at the moment
Price is what determines the best option... in my country 5800x was $720 and the next option was the 5950x at $1250... it was a no brainer for me. Happy with my 5800x !!
There's also more than the price of the CPU. There is the price of the motherboard. During this time, equivalent Intel vs AMD motherboards were $60-$80+ higher for Intel. That is why I chose a Ryzen 3600 + Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi for my nephew instead of an Intel 10400 + MSI MAG something something.. and even that MSI board didn't have the same quality as Asus, nor did it have the same amount of USB ports or as robust of a chipset. AND... while my nephew is STILL running his awesome little R5 3600 + B550-F Gaming Wifi, he has the option to slap a 5800x3D in there now whenever his CPU begins holding him back. He currently has a 6600XT in it (mind you, I built this around 2 years ago for his birthday (just before Christmas). And he already has some great RAM... Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600 C16 2x8GB. He can throw two more in, which will put him in dual rank, slap whatever GPU he wants in there and upgrade to a 5800x3D and be ready to rock for another 5 years (with maybe one more GPU upgrade). Intel honestly just didn't have anything to match that bang for the buck. Not then and ESPECIALLY not in regard to the future upgrades. And after seeing his board and how nice it was, when I built my new PC (upgraded from a couple of PC's I had, one was FX-8350, one was Pentium G4560 which was for a mining rig), I went with the same board as him, except it was the revision II model. Only difference was that his is Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.0 and mine has Wi-Fi 6e and Bluetooth 5.2. So I have the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming II + Ryzen 9 5900x + 6700XT + 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank. It's the only dual rank kit in that Ripjaws Series V line up. I've went through all of my timings (well, okay, 65% to MAYBE 70% of the options) and fine tuned the timings. She's a BEAST. I get around 65,000 MB/s (65GB/s) Read/Write/Copy speeds in AIDA64. Everyone else gets 55GB/s. I guess it's a combo of the dual rank and timings. Maybe just the dual rank. I dunno. Know what the issue with these builds are? THEY'RE BORING haha. He hasn't had one single issue with any single part or anything that I bought or built for him. That's great, yes, but also... it's boring if you know what I mean. For the first year, I was always like "How's your computer doing?" and he'd always be like "good." Aww... no problems at all for me to fix 😞
@@StarsAtNight1 the line at my micro center was at least 50 people. Everyone walked out with a CPU :) edit: Heard the same about friends near other micro centers and big stores. It's always going to be sold out online. It sucks for people that don't live near a micro center or their Best Buy has 0 stock, but a lot of people were actually able to get these CPUs unlike nvidias RTX 3080 Launch.
In the NL it sold out in about 15 sec. The in stock counter also only showed 30 cpu's. One store went straight to per-order, delivered 2021. But I also checked DE web shops. They were also very fast to sold out. 5900x weren't even listed.
The best possible situation we can hope for is that Intel and AMD keep swapping the "crown" back and force with each new release. That controls pricing and compels both to keep innovating. I play games at 3440x1440 and generally upper range settings on a 3900X/2080Ti, so I'm largely GPU bound. These new CPUs wouldn't be a significant upgrade for me, but I'm happy to see AMD continuing to do well.
Couldnt agree more, we need competition and intel just needs to get it together and come out with something new. Hoping they stick to the next fall time frame for 10nm. Yeah i know its not the GREAT 7nm that AMD has, but if they can get this type of performance out of 14nm, I'm interested to see what they will do with 10nm and how it will compare to AMDs new 5nm process. We should have many great years ahead of us for choosing fantastic cpus
Considering recent developments by Intel with massive amounts of bravado and an OG running things again, it seems Intel will come back on top finally. However I believe their crown will be very short lives, as I see Zen 4 absolutely annihilating Intel with a DDR5/AM5/5nm launch. Meanwhile the newest Intel chips years after will STILL be on DDR4 and 14nm, maybe 7nm. Unless Intel adopts DDR5 and AMD's philosophy, there won't be much crown switching. Maybe Intel can better compete with GPUs. Maybe Nvidia destroys Intel with their ARM x86 CPUs.
I got a 5800x today to upgrade from my 4790k, I only game, but wanted an 8 core CPU to match the consoles as I want it to last another 5-6 years like my 4790k has. I'll hopefully be able to grab a 6800xt too.
thanks for doing the 5800x and 5900x benchmarks first instead of going for the 5950x. those are the most interesting especiall because 1CCD with 8cores and 2CCD with 6cores each and im very curious if 2 CCDs introduce latency
It will only make a difference if game uses 8 cores, so 5900X will need to find extra cores on other CCX while 5800X doesnt...... which is why 5950X have also advantage in this over 5900X....
@@andruman33 i cant decide between the 5800x because the 5800x has lower memory latency with the single 8 core ccx but the 5900x having more L2 and L3 cache could perform better with an amd radeon gpu. Im gonna wait for the 6800xt benchmarks with the 5900x v 5800x to make my decision
Thanks Greg, very informative. Definitely won't be upgrading from my 3700x to 5900x unless prices come down or if I can resell my 3700x for a decent amount. Rather save it for an 6800xt gpu
I was more excited for the alleged memory compatibility. I heard these new processors could handle higher frequencies without the diminishing returns due to the infinity fabric. I don’t know if that it is true and/or could be tested.
not saying intel is the way to go, but the deal i got my 10700k for at $360 and playing at 1440p does not make any of the new offerings worth it, especially at the inflated price that AMD thought it would be great to release at. So even though it may be an older design, honestly, it doesn't matter to me in the end. Please people, make sure you realistically look at what youre getting. You don't need this if you are already running a 10700k or 10900k.
@@RahulJha-mc6nz because they raised the prices from 50 to 100 dollars for each chip. At release the ryzen 5's and 7's were originally going for cheaper.
@@RahulJha-mc6nz Since forever. I remember that FX 8320 was going for 120 dollars. Right now AMD cannot make an octa core CPU for less than 300 dollars. Ryzen has always been a rip-off.
You will Love it, went from a 1800x to a 3800x (just cpu drop in) and it was very noticeable difference and didn't have to touch any overclock settings just left it at stock and it normal to boosts to around 4.2ghz I have my 3800x pre sold just waiting for money off him so I can buy my pc so he can have my "old" 3800x (Asus prime pro x370) system Reason for not waiting was because the 1800x was just to slow for factorio (as 1800x is comparable to a 4th gen i7 cpu for factorio, ONI and KSP)
I just went from the 3800x to the 5800x yesterday and noticed a huge change. I mainly play esports titles which are cpu intensive so in valorant I gained 200-250+ fps, Fortnite I gained 300 fps, Rust I gained 20+ fps, minecraft I also saw an increase in performance. I’m not sure why fortnite got a huge boost, but playing a normal game I averaged 600-800 fps lol! I’m selling the 3800x to my friend so everything worked out for me.
dang sad bois, nice tech, but i liked the cheaper ryzen days.i got my 2700x for like 190 bucks, why the heck would i want to pay like triple that for something that wont make a noticable difference in most gaming and applications, seems like this time amd is the new intel. hope my 2700x build holds out for brighter days, id like to be paying around 300 for an 8 core beast 4-5 years from now. heres hopin for ryzen 9800x
By using a 550 board that amd said isn't exactly ready to use the chips yet, and then gimping the cpu, sure... You can see every other review shows amd doing way better. Either there's something wrong with his setup, or all of theirs. Even if the 550 is holding it back, they are at least on par.
Greg, you make other RUclipsrs look like they're in the wrong business. Solid opinions, very well spoken, and you cram so much content into your videos, its always worth watching. Great job man!
Just bought a 5800x for 499 Canadian, super excited for it to arrive. Like 250 cheaper than 5900x. Gonna make a nice upgrade from my aging 7700k to pair with my 3080. My first AMD since Athlon 64 X2, really hoping I'm not gonna be hit by the usb issue and have to force PCIe 3.
5800x with the 3070ti. I needed something beefy because I stream single pc to twitch. This combo has made it easy and kept my fps super stable on the game I play, pubg.
AMD just absolutely knocked it out of the park this time. I would have NEVER thought they'd get back to the very top, but here we are. What a redemption arc. Dr. Lisa Su should be an inspiration for every CEO.
So glad you tested with a 2080 TI (not only of which I have) because most of us still have those, and not so many ppl have the 3000 GPUs, an awesome review!!
I been thinking about upgrading my Ryzen 7 3800X to a Ryzen 9 5900X on my X570 Aorus Master.....any thoughts or comments would be appreciated @Greg Salazar
I just upgraded from a 3600 to a 5900x for $350. Figured to get the best of this generation and then sit back for the next 2 to 3 years untill all the new chips are settled and better benchmarks and analysis are done. Plus i believe you would need a new MB for the new CPUs? I think...
Pretty disappointing that you didn’t compare overclocking potential and thermals between these chips. Especially considering people are watching these videos to pick which one they buy. Why just compare at stock? We already know what each chips boost is locked to at stock.
Because most users run _at_ stock/PB. Additionally, since every chip is binned differently, overclocking expectations need to be managed. Ryzen traditionally performs better in games with PB/XFR enabled rather than an all-core OC because one or two cores can boost far beyond what an all-core can do. And I'm not about to per-core OC. I did the same with the Intel chips, so relax :-) And I literally said that a dedicated overclocking video was coming, so stay tuned!
Linus used ram with unrealistic low latency timings that the average customer isnt going to buy. Those same people are going to be disappointed when they dont get the same results in those games. Hence why watching multiple people is way important
@@twiincentral8780 It'll be a big difference but there will be many Sku's of the Zen 3 coming out soon. If it's a little out of your budget wait for the non 'x' variants to come out
@Dan The Man I know what you mean but I want cyberpunk and my CPU just won't cut it. Unfortunately I don't want to wait for Zen 4 and whilst I could get a budget build using Zen 2 I feel the strides in performance this year is good enough to upgrade as ever. Of course upgrading from Zen 2 to Zen 3 is a no no. On a seperate note, the Zen 4 will be a new process and may come with kinks which Zen 5 or 4+ will iron out so I think going big on the end of a generation isn't a bad shout.
Not really. Scenarios you'd be using it are super circumstantial like troubleshooting a fault and most people buying that CPU are gamers so they'd be using a high end graphics card. Intel built-in graphics is a gimmick having basically zero use in higher end systems and outside of cheap workstations or laptops is effectively pointless.
I don’t build a gaming pc for more than 10 years, this year I’ve decided to build one and get back to gaming. I just bought a 5800x online, I know that the difference in performance from the 5600x is not much in gaming, but I also do some video editing from my vacations, etc. also I think it will be more “future” proof compared with the 5600x, because I don’t intend to do any upgrades for the next 5 years :) Also because probably is the last gen of Ryzen with am4 socket.. Now let’s wait for a 6800x GPU to pair with ;)
@@BlackJesus8463 I doubt it will be available next year.... Even if it is, will expensive as hell ... And I don't want to wait 1 more year to start gaming again :)
im coming from a I7-3770k and just bought the 5800x since it was in stock.. also bought water cooling for it so im hoping to overclock/and or undervolt it so i can maybe reach stock 5900x performance
I'm seeing a pretty substantial price difference between 32 an 3600 in the U.S... Many 3200MHz CL16 kits are as cheap as $60. Not seeing many 3600 kits in that price range. Either way, won't make a huge difference at all.
@@GregSalazar when you say "tight timings", what do you mean? Maybe a spot for a niche video. I see an option of buying either a 3600 MHz CL18 kit or 3200 CL 16 kit for similar prices. I have very little knowledge on RAM overclocking potential, especially on timings, so I have no idea which of those kits would be better. Anyhow, the difference is probably so small that it does not matter, but it is nice to know these things instead of just presuming.
2024: It's 3 years later and I'm trying to squeeze the last bit of life out of my AM4 socket X570 board. The 5900X is on sale for $249 as AMD comes out with the 9000 series CPU (there was a 7000 series (AM5/DDR5) after the 5000 series) in the AM5 socket with DDR5 memory. Oh, and intel 13th and 14th gen CPUs are having......issues, crashing issues.
I just installed Ryzen 9 5900x on my Asus Strix B450-E gaming motherboard. Oh my GOD! I could not beleave how it differ to my previous Ryzen 5 3600..... Did some quick test(No PBO, No OC): Geekbench5 1711 single 14 014 multi score, CPU-Z 685,4 single 9662,2 multi score, Time spy CPU score 15 120, Cinebench R15 266 single 3473 multi score!!! Its insane! (AIR cooler Noctua NHD-15s, ram Patriot Viper steel 4400mhz CL19 tunned to 3733mhz, CL14,14,14,28)
I mostly agree with your conclusion! However I do believe a large swath of gamers are already on a Ryzen platform making this upgrade a no brainer. I also believe the 5800X will drop in price, the 5900X as well. The 5600 and 5700 will definitely be the sweet spot and I'm willing to bet that gaming performance will be equal or close to the benchmarks shown today! The 5600 may even perform better with over clocking! Less cores may give it more thermal head room. The reason i believe this is because as we've seen with the 3300X, thermal head room can give a great OC and a great OC on Ryzen can give amazing in game performance! It only has 4 cores 8 threads, but most games don't use much more than 4 threads.
Loved your video Greg.. Gives us the base line for Ryzen third gen on B550. "IF" an X570 test bench comes around would you be inclined to show any performance comparisons? Thanks Greg for the review!
Intel is going to make MAD MONEY until Jan. I will explain... Ryzen 9 5900x just like the RTX 3080 will be a myth for the next 3 months which will make intel VERY happy. Because until Jan they will be the only game in town. When people cant buy the best what do they do? They buy second best
@@jayvee8502 umm im talking about people buying intel NOW you dingus since no one can buy ryzen they will go to second best. Intel. They are the only processors you can buy atm
Great Video Greg!! Not sure what you did different, but this video had a really nice flow to it. Your info, and graphs were great. Keep up the awesome work my man!!! You're the cream of the crop my man!!!
In 2022 I think this chip rocks, picked mine up for $280 at BestBuy and dropped my thermals 10 deg from a Ryzen 3500. I'm getting high frams at high settings on every game I play so far. I do have great airflow and a 240mm AIO but same set up the 3500 was in. picking up the 5900X today for my other rig. I will be skipping the 5th Gen for a good while, prob till price drops on them as well
Not yet, the availability is so poor (just like NVidia's 30 series) that I'm contemplating a 10700k to replace my 5820k. Even though I would've loved to switch to an AMD 5800X. Or I'll just wait and combine an AMD GPU and CPU in a few months... choices choices. Something I missed having last time I built a PC.
I gotta agree with Greg...intel on 14nm+++++ for so many years....AMD with IPC increase and a new architecture... yet it just matches intel's performance....i expected more with all the hype AMD did
exactly what im saying. I am in no way a fan boy of either since i use both brands in my home ( i tend to get my family whatever has the better price and performance together). But whenn are people going to stop just getting excited because we are fed biased information. This is the 4th generation of zen and they just now are matching the performance in gaming that intel has been putting out with older architecture. Yes, i agree intel needs to come out with something new already instead of rebranding the same thing each year and calling it new, but to see them still put out this type of performance with older processes shows how good their product actually is. I mean we still see people using older ddr3 era i7's today. Stop falling into you need the new item because i say its better trap people
I know this won't sit well with certain subreddits, but I was genuinely expecting a bit more from the games I tested given what we saw from single-core synthetic runs. But a good thing to take away from this is that either company in the right setting is relevant for gamers and content creators. It's great to have choice.
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 true that. I'm no fanboy of any of these tech companies. If you've been long around the desktop pc space, it's easy to see this. They did so much. At least they finally matched it. But for workstation i'll agree AMD has gotten ahead
For gaming performance yes but for a CPU that has way better performance than in productivity and can game on par with intels equivalent CPU, that is already great.
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 yes only idiots upgrade every gen, so people are idiots like apple sheep, so company makes profit , what to whine about, i think you are just sad.
thanks for the coverage Greg! i actually was able to preorder my r9 5900x at like 11pm mts from b&h even though i have a rog Crosshair hero 7 wifi i assumed these would instantly sell out so i jumped on it while i could because my 2700x died on me so im stuck with a athalon 200ge for right now until bios updates roll for x470. My question is do you think the potential 2 month+ delay for x470 board support was really necessary? or do you think it was to give 5000 series buyers on a older am4 platform more of a reason to upgrade boards?
Hey Bryce, the software/BIOS support delay could have been for a number of reasons. Obviously, X570 is gonna be a priority, and it'll trickle down from there. But since they're all motivated to _sell_ motherboards, the delay was also (likely) at least somewhat strategic for X470.
Hello Greg do you think for a 5950X on R20 a 10800 score on multi and 576 on Single Core is good im wondering if i lack performance? as im rocking a 5950X on a X570 A PRO MSI motherboard
why is everyone showing 1080p benchmarks, are you guys under some NDA for allowing 1440p and 4k? since the 5950x trades blows or more often than not looses to a 10900k at those resolutions?
I want a ridge wallet so bad, but $100+ for a wallet is just too much for me. I know there are cheaper ones, but those don't look as nice as the more expensive ones (duh)
In my case, I went from 2700x to 5800x not simply for the upgrade but to invest in Smart Access Memory once the 6000 series cards launch. This is going to be a long term build for me and while I’d have to upgrade from a x570 board I think by then the value will be there on a generation per generation level to upgrade much much later in the 5nm line. Potentially towards the end of that gen or beginning of whatever is beyond that.
The 5800x is the perfect gaming CPU, especially during the time you got it. All 8 cores and only one CCD, unlike my 5900x with 2x CCDs. Not that it matters in benchmarks, but theoretically... However, the 5900x does run WAYYYY cooler than the 5800x. I average around 4.75ghz in games. I use Curve Optimizer, though. I get 5.55-5.6ghz in CPU-z stress test pulling 142 watts, too, and barely touch 65C. Only if the room is hot. However, I do have one of the better coolers over it... a Fuma 2 Rev B. Better than any $120 AIO water cooler.
3dmark has to have a update. How can ryzen 5000 series run worse/on par with ryzen 3000. My 5950x scores lower then my old 3950x in 3d mark cpu scores.
I'm just wow. Its so weird seeing AMD on the top of gaming benchmarks. Its awesome. If they keep this up whenever I replace my 8700k I could switch platforms.
Actually in purely gaming benchmarks Ryzen is mostly the same as Intel. If you looks closely, all gaming benchmark average might have been in favour of Intel. Granted that you compare same core count chips (5800x vs 10700k).
Why? Zen 3 isn't really as cool as it was hyped up to. Gains are minimal and there's a substantial increase in power consumption, worse thermals and higher price.
@@MJ-uk6lu what are you talking about? I have literally not heard anyone say anything that the thermals or power consumption going up, if anything it's gone down by a tiny percentage, which isn't much to ride home about, but besides the point. I don't know who told you that lie, but you best recheck that for your self if you somehow believe AMD fucked up those two aspects which has literally been one of their biggest selling points since Zen 1. I'm a content creator and a gamer, Zen 3 is showing lots of improvements, so yes, I am definitely excited for it, whether or not I get it is a completely different question.
@@FilipinoWaylon26 Maximum power consumption in Greg's video was clearly higher and maximum heat out put was also higher. Now maximum power consumption might have been spiky, however in longer test maximum thermals literally show how hot the hottest core will be. It's at over 90C. That's really awful and it's with 120mm single tower cooler. Pathetic. If 10-20% improvement is worth 400 dollars to you, then by all means get Zen 3. For gamers that's literally 0% improvement in many cases. How is that remotely worth it?
Hey Greg, thanks for making this video! In case you want suggestions for another video, could you please test which memories and motherboards would be the best to buy for the 5800x and the 5600x? I got one of each, but I'm kind of puzzled which motherboard and RAMs I should buy. People are telling me that I should go for RAMs that are not faster or slower than 3600-3666Mhz with a CL16 latency.
Recently bought a 3090. Figured i wouldn't need updates for a while. Then I launched Cyberpunk 2077 and my 7700K started crying... 40-50FPS. Changing graphics does nothing. I check the monitoring tools and see that my poor 4 cores are stuck to 100% usage... Just ordered 5800X and X570 mobo. Already got 32GB DDR4. Hopefully, this system will last me at least 3-4 years.
Hey Greg, Can you see how the 5900X & 5950X compare in gaming with 'hyperthreading" enabled vs disabled 1080p, 1440p & 4K? Is there any benefit with the higher core count CPUs to disable hyperthrerading if only gaming, with minimal office/browsing work.
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Hallo and Merry Christmas I have a question I can't find any info about online as noone seems to address this... I know 2x16gb of dual rank gives you 4 ranks I know 4x16gb of single rank give you 4 ranks My question is what are the effects when you use 4x16 dual rank sticks? Do you have any gains? Do you actually effect negatively the system? Does the system even use the sticks properly at that point? I am using Asus strix x570 E & Ryzen 9 5900X The memory is G.SKILL TRIDENTZ NEO 2X16GB DDR4-3600MHz F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC
Linus @Linus Techtips was talking about different youtubers got very different results and maybe the memoryspeed is playing a much bigger role when using the new AMD Cpu:s, which memory frequency did you have @greg?
got a 10700k for $330 with a $60 dollar game! Also seen them going for as low as $289.99 which is just a killer steal don't get me wrong the new Ryzen chips are amazing and faster in most things but you're not getting an 8 core Zen 3 chip for under $400. I am going to be a little Selfish in requesting a full comparison between the 5600x at $300 vs the 10700k at $300 to $350 I think that is where the battlegrounds for most value is to be had this holiday season.
I've been on a ryzen 5 1600 since launch. I upgrade my mobo to a b550 earlier and just got a Ryzen 7 5800x today looking forward to upgrade in that sweet spot
How 'bout those single core synthetic scores? I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Demolishing Intel in that department.
ALSO: I just realized I typed "Gigabyte Z490 Designare," but the board used for 10th Gen testing was the Vision G from the same manufacturer. The 9900KS was tested on a Z390 Designare board. Same kit of RAM used throughout.
Hold on! I haven't fully watched the video yet cause I am too busy posting comments! :P
Spoilers on the worst kept secrets dude!
Watched it. Those single core scores are pretty good!
This is definitely enough for me to roll over to AMD on a second build.
The 5800x isn't more expensive than all the previous generations the 1800x launched at $499 as well
So basically Intel is now the value option? :P
How about a Zen benchmark to show improvements. Like a 1700x, 2700x, 3700x, and a 5800x?
Would be fun! I'll look into setting one up if the 5700X shows up.
@@GregSalazar I hope it will be a when and not an if..
@@GregSalazar That would be awesome! I have a Ryzen 1700 (oc's to 3.8Ghz) on x370 and was looking to upgrade to a 3700/x because I wouldn't have to change motherboards. I could be swayed if the 5700x/5800x on b550 is leaps and bounds better.
@@seoulglo1999 I use 1700x at 3.8 too. With 3600MHz memory, it's very close to the R5 3600 when using RTX 2070 super.
A lot of the x570 motherboards will unofficially actually run a 1000 cpu so can be all done in one motherboard
Currently in line at microcenter with a 5900x. I’m pretty excited to get home and instal it
Paper launch at our Microcenter unfortunately. 10 total 5900 0 total 5950.
I envy all of you who live in places with microcenters
dallas microcenter had only 20 5900x :( but was able to get on b&h preorder. hopefullly can get one
@@sneedoh3186 good luck on B&h since they don't cap pre-orders/backorders.
0 5950 at micro center :/ huge bummer
Might as well just change the name to Ashes of the Benchmark.
Benchmarks of the Singularity!
Who even plays that game honestly
I actually tought that was a benchmark
I want to see a review of the game now, if it indeed is a game.
I think the sweet spot is the 5600x and 5900x. The 5800x has more competition especially since the i9 10850k, which is hitting $425 lately, is seemingly pretty close in performance. But damn that 5900x is nice
The intel for gaming sure, but you'd be surprised at how much performance zen offers for other things. Like you see intel do well on games right? That is on fresh installs. Zen will smash intel on the average PC. I would argue that its much better than shown here due to being able to handle everything else much better.
yeah i agree that the 5600x will be the way to go. I really don't think going to the 5900x will be worth it at this point till AMD lowers the price if you already have intel's top offerings at the moment
@Valhalla Rising No point. 4K is completely GPU bound with almost no CPU input.
5900x all the way. It's only $100 more for an extra 4C/8Ts -- which be much better in terms of future-proofing for the next 3-5ish years.
Best value will probably be the 5600 and 5700x once those drop
I was able to get a 5800X front Newegg! Usually I wait for benchmarks but I couldn't help myself this time.
Got mine from amazon!
Can you send me a link?
@@dirtymisfit5852 i didnt find the link
@@dirtydoge756 promotions.newegg.com/amd/20-2591/index.html?cm_mmc=snc-facebook-trf--productlaunch--amd-ryzen-5000-series-CPU-_-110520&fbclid=IwAR2JdYUhQbi3aLIUA3MGMXhZtbqRMyeP-4HATfbSrb3eP63vZoD35tvRq7Y
@@dirtydoge756 5600X is still in stock
Price is what determines the best option... in my country 5800x was $720 and the next option was the 5950x at $1250... it was a no brainer for me. Happy with my 5800x !!
There's also more than the price of the CPU. There is the price of the motherboard. During this time, equivalent Intel vs AMD motherboards were $60-$80+ higher for Intel.
That is why I chose a Ryzen 3600 + Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi for my nephew instead of an Intel 10400 + MSI MAG something something.. and even that MSI board didn't have the same quality as Asus, nor did it have the same amount of USB ports or as robust of a chipset. AND... while my nephew is STILL running his awesome little R5 3600 + B550-F Gaming Wifi, he has the option to slap a 5800x3D in there now whenever his CPU begins holding him back.
He currently has a 6600XT in it (mind you, I built this around 2 years ago for his birthday (just before Christmas). And he already has some great RAM... Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600 C16 2x8GB. He can throw two more in, which will put him in dual rank, slap whatever GPU he wants in there and upgrade to a 5800x3D and be ready to rock for another 5 years (with maybe one more GPU upgrade).
Intel honestly just didn't have anything to match that bang for the buck. Not then and ESPECIALLY not in regard to the future upgrades.
And after seeing his board and how nice it was, when I built my new PC (upgraded from a couple of PC's I had, one was FX-8350, one was Pentium G4560 which was for a mining rig), I went with the same board as him, except it was the revision II model. Only difference was that his is Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.0 and mine has Wi-Fi 6e and Bluetooth 5.2. So I have the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming II + Ryzen 9 5900x + 6700XT + 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank. It's the only dual rank kit in that Ripjaws Series V line up. I've went through all of my timings (well, okay, 65% to MAYBE 70% of the options) and fine tuned the timings. She's a BEAST. I get around 65,000 MB/s (65GB/s) Read/Write/Copy speeds in AIDA64. Everyone else gets 55GB/s. I guess it's a combo of the dual rank and timings. Maybe just the dual rank. I dunno.
Know what the issue with these builds are? THEY'RE BORING haha. He hasn't had one single issue with any single part or anything that I bought or built for him. That's great, yes, but also... it's boring if you know what I mean. For the first year, I was always like "How's your computer doing?" and he'd always be like "good."
Aww... no problems at all for me to fix 😞
"today is another..." sold out in minutes launch-day....! Come back in three months to actually get your hands on one of these
It's just a paper launch.
Exactly
@@StarsAtNight1 the line at my micro center was at least 50 people. Everyone walked out with a CPU :)
edit: Heard the same about friends near other micro centers and big stores. It's always going to be sold out online. It sucks for people that don't live near a micro center or their Best Buy has 0 stock, but a lot of people were actually able to get these CPUs unlike nvidias RTX 3080 Launch.
In the NL it sold out in about 15 sec. The in stock counter also only showed 30 cpu's. One store went straight to per-order, delivered 2021. But I also checked DE web shops. They were also very fast to sold out. 5900x weren't even listed.
There were 10+ of every model at my microcenter and they didn't sell out until 4pm
Snagged a 5900x in Extreme PC! :D
Nice catch dude, I was unlucky sadly. Here in sweden there has been a sad lack of 5900x's. I imagined that there'd be more but alas...
AYEEEE SAME HOMIE they had plenty stock it seemed
@@isakbeaver www.extreme-pc.ca/fastestinthegame/ see if you can do shipping mate
I was already interested in the 5800x before watching this video, but Greg, you pushed me over the edge!
Thanks!
The best possible situation we can hope for is that Intel and AMD keep swapping the "crown" back and force with each new release. That controls pricing and compels both to keep innovating. I play games at 3440x1440 and generally upper range settings on a 3900X/2080Ti, so I'm largely GPU bound. These new CPUs wouldn't be a significant upgrade for me, but I'm happy to see AMD continuing to do well.
Couldnt agree more, we need competition and intel just needs to get it together and come out with something new. Hoping they stick to the next fall time frame for 10nm. Yeah i know its not the GREAT 7nm that AMD has, but if they can get this type of performance out of 14nm, I'm interested to see what they will do with 10nm and how it will compare to AMDs new 5nm process. We should have many great years ahead of us for choosing fantastic cpus
Considering recent developments by Intel with massive amounts of bravado and an OG running things again, it seems Intel will come back on top finally. However I believe their crown will be very short lives, as I see Zen 4 absolutely annihilating Intel with a DDR5/AM5/5nm launch. Meanwhile the newest Intel chips years after will STILL be on DDR4 and 14nm, maybe 7nm. Unless Intel adopts DDR5 and AMD's philosophy, there won't be much crown switching. Maybe Intel can better compete with GPUs. Maybe Nvidia destroys Intel with their ARM x86 CPUs.
Back & forth
14:53 5900k 🤣 Intel is now amd
I got a 5800x today to upgrade from my 4790k, I only game, but wanted an 8 core CPU to match the consoles as I want it to last another 5-6 years like my 4790k has. I'll hopefully be able to grab a 6800xt too.
Is there a difference between
Ryzen 9 5900X and Ryzen 7 5800X
In games I use games only
No, the gaming actaully prefers the ryzen 7.
thanks for doing the 5800x and 5900x benchmarks first instead of going for the 5950x. those are the most interesting especiall because 1CCD with 8cores and 2CCD with 6cores each and im very curious if 2 CCDs introduce latency
It will only make a difference if game uses 8 cores, so 5900X will need to find extra cores on other CCX while 5800X doesnt...... which is why 5950X have also advantage in this over 5900X....
amd could use 8core ccx + 4core ccx for 5900x
@@srinathshettigar379 do you think thats the case? more likely those 8core chiplets go into 5950x chips and the 5900x gets 6/6s... but i dont know
@@srinathshettigar379 its 6+6
@@andruman33 i cant decide between the 5800x because the 5800x has lower memory latency with the single 8 core ccx but the 5900x having more L2 and L3 cache could perform better with an amd radeon gpu. Im gonna wait for the 6800xt benchmarks with the 5900x v 5800x to make my decision
Upgrading my 2700x to a 5800x really excited I don’t have to upgrade my cross hair vii motherboard or my noctua nh-d15s air cooler :)
I recommend water cooling
I wanted a 2700x until I seen the 105w tdp.
Thanks Greg, very informative. Definitely won't be upgrading from my 3700x to 5900x unless prices come down or if I can resell my 3700x for a decent amount. Rather save it for an 6800xt gpu
then wait 6 month like zen2
I think you are good with 3700x, it's pretty decent processor right now. Don't need to switch. Better buy new 6000 series GPU.
how much is a “decent amount “ to sell. I’m thinking of doing the same thing but idk
I got a 5800x at Microcenter
I was more excited for the alleged memory compatibility. I heard these new processors could handle higher frequencies without the diminishing returns due to the infinity fabric. I don’t know if that it is true and/or could be tested.
Worth investigating, for sure! I'll let ya know.
watch the newest video of "Gamer Meld" he posted one where he overclocked to 5Ghz
It's not true from what I can see
@@jasonzahnd1138 did he personally overclock it or did someone else do it and hes just reuploading their content
not saying intel is the way to go, but the deal i got my 10700k for at $360 and playing at 1440p does not make any of the new offerings worth it, especially at the inflated price that AMD thought it would be great to release at. So even though it may be an older design, honestly, it doesn't matter to me in the end. Please people, make sure you realistically look at what youre getting. You don't need this if you are already running a 10700k or 10900k.
how its inflated price?
only idiots upgrade every generation, people on zen+ or before 8th zen intel should upgrade
@@RahulJha-mc6nz because they raised the prices from 50 to 100 dollars for each chip. At release the ryzen 5's and 7's were originally going for cheaper.
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 its 50$ not 100$, and thats after 3 generation, for the r&d i think they needed that
@@RahulJha-mc6nz Since forever. I remember that FX 8320 was going for 120 dollars. Right now AMD cannot make an octa core CPU for less than 300 dollars. Ryzen has always been a rip-off.
Gonna jump from a 1800x to a 5600. I'm glad I resisted the urge to buy a 3600
You will Love it, went from a 1800x to a 3800x (just cpu drop in) and it was very noticeable difference and didn't have to touch any overclock settings just left it at stock and it normal to boosts to around 4.2ghz
I have my 3800x pre sold just waiting for money off him so I can buy my pc so he can have my "old" 3800x (Asus prime pro x370) system
Reason for not waiting was because the 1800x was just to slow for factorio (as 1800x is comparable to a 4th gen i7 cpu for factorio, ONI and KSP)
I just went from the 3800x to the 5800x yesterday and noticed a huge change. I mainly play esports titles which are cpu intensive so in valorant I gained 200-250+ fps, Fortnite I gained 300 fps, Rust I gained 20+ fps, minecraft I also saw an increase in performance. I’m not sure why fortnite got a huge boost, but playing a normal game I averaged 600-800 fps lol! I’m selling the 3800x to my friend so everything worked out for me.
what gpu
??
What were the temps like for the 5800x? I heard someone say it's really bad but I want to know from a third party reviewer such as yourself
dang sad bois, nice tech, but i liked the cheaper ryzen days.i got my 2700x for like 190 bucks, why the heck would i want to pay like triple that for something that wont make a noticable difference in most gaming and applications, seems like this time amd is the new intel. hope my 2700x build holds out for brighter days, id like to be paying around 300 for an 8 core beast 4-5 years from now. heres hopin for ryzen 9800x
This is why I respect you the most out of all reviewes, Greg.
You said it, they’re not beating Intel in performance, they’re just catching up
By using a 550 board that amd said isn't exactly ready to use the chips yet, and then gimping the cpu, sure...
You can see every other review shows amd doing way better.
Either there's something wrong with his setup, or all of theirs.
Even if the 550 is holding it back, they are at least on par.
@@flamingseagul9409 There's nothing wrong with B550 chipset and it doesn't have any performance limitations.
Greg, you make other RUclipsrs look like they're in the wrong business. Solid opinions, very well spoken, and you cram so much content into your videos, its always worth watching. Great job man!
Just bought a 5800x for 499 Canadian, super excited for it to arrive. Like 250 cheaper than 5900x. Gonna make a nice upgrade from my aging 7700k to pair with my 3080. My first AMD since Athlon 64 X2, really hoping I'm not gonna be hit by the usb issue and have to force PCIe 3.
already getting scalpers selling for anywehere between 30%-55% mark up
gotta love it
OH it's worse now on the 5600x. I've seen up to a 83% markup. ($550)
5800x with the 3070ti. I needed something beefy because I stream single pc to twitch. This combo has made it easy and kept my fps super stable on the game I play, pubg.
AMD just absolutely knocked it out of the park this time. I would have NEVER thought they'd get back to the very top, but here we are. What a redemption arc. Dr. Lisa Su should be an inspiration for every CEO.
The 10700K kinda makes those two look pretty bad in terms of value, at least for gaming.
That's because they are awful in delivering value.
intel now makes value product.😂🤣😂🤣
@@MJ-uk6lu ?
@@xray5984 ???
@@MJ-uk6lu amd is awful in value or intel? Or both?
So glad you tested with a 2080 TI (not only of which I have) because most of us still have those, and not so many ppl have the 3000 GPUs, an awesome review!!
Woke up at 5:59 am got a pre-order on B&H. Now the waiting begins for my new pc
18:47 the 3600X is already out. :P
I been thinking about upgrading my Ryzen 7 3800X to a Ryzen 9 5900X on my X570 Aorus Master.....any thoughts or comments would be appreciated @Greg Salazar
I just upgraded from a 3600 to a 5900x for $350. Figured to get the best of this generation and then sit back for the next 2 to 3 years untill all the new chips are settled and better benchmarks and analysis are done. Plus i believe you would need a new MB for the new CPUs? I think...
@@mv2873 YEP! Decided to go ahead and pull the trigger, with the same thinking. Not quite ready to shell out for the new Z690 boards yet.
Pretty disappointing that you didn’t compare overclocking potential and thermals between these chips. Especially considering people are watching these videos to pick which one they buy. Why just compare at stock? We already know what each chips boost is locked to at stock.
Because most users run _at_ stock/PB. Additionally, since every chip is binned differently, overclocking expectations need to be managed. Ryzen traditionally performs better in games with PB/XFR enabled rather than an all-core OC because one or two cores can boost far beyond what an all-core can do. And I'm not about to per-core OC. I did the same with the Intel chips, so relax :-) And I literally said that a dedicated overclocking video was coming, so stay tuned!
just went from 4790k to 5800x
Saw LinusTech Tips video and Ryzen demolished there.. idk why are your results different but this looks more realistic.
Cause Linus used RAM with good timings / latency
Linus used ram with unrealistic low latency timings that the average customer isnt going to buy. Those same people are going to be disappointed when they dont get the same results in those games. Hence why watching multiple people is way important
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 Exactly! And Greg seems to be one of us: user who have a limited budget, hence the results are realistic.
Managed to secure a 5900x, I defintely need the upgrade. Currently on a Intel i7 920 (10 year old CPU) lol
Ha I also have an i7-920. It’s still decent so I’m debating to upgrade or not
@@twiincentral8780 it will be a massive difference
@@twiincentral8780 Go for it. The difference will be astronomical.
@@twiincentral8780 It'll be a big difference but there will be many Sku's of the Zen 3 coming out soon. If it's a little out of your budget wait for the non 'x' variants to come out
@Dan The Man I know what you mean but I want cyberpunk and my CPU just won't cut it. Unfortunately I don't want to wait for Zen 4 and whilst I could get a budget build using Zen 2 I feel the strides in performance this year is good enough to upgrade as ever. Of course upgrading from Zen 2 to Zen 3 is a no no. On a seperate note, the Zen 4 will be a new process and may come with kinks which Zen 5 or 4+ will iron out so I think going big on the end of a generation isn't a bad shout.
Great vid buddy thanks, just found you whilst trying to get back up to speed with PC tech, chose an ironic day to do it huh.
The 10900k has inbuilt Intel UHD Graphics 630 which can be very handy.
Not really. Scenarios you'd be using it are super circumstantial like troubleshooting a fault and most people buying that CPU are gamers so they'd be using a high end graphics card. Intel built-in graphics is a gimmick having basically zero use in higher end systems and outside of cheap workstations or laptops is effectively pointless.
One year later...The 5800x for $300.00 changes a few things.
intel fanboy be like : bUt iTs BeTtEr In gAmInG. 😂🤣😂
More like: iT hEatS beTTEr In WIntEr
Yeah and costs 1.5x so its actually not even better in that workload either LMFAO
Intel will kill a Tesla battery faster
@Dan The Man just curious do you sell your old gen parts for good price or keep the old hardware?
AMD is now the rich man's choice. Buy Intel! I won't miss you!
I don’t build a gaming pc for more than 10 years, this year I’ve decided to build one and get back to gaming.
I just bought a 5800x online, I know that the difference in performance from the 5600x is not much in gaming, but I also do some video editing from my vacations, etc. also I think it will be more “future” proof compared with the 5600x, because I don’t intend to do any upgrades for the next 5 years :)
Also because probably is the last gen of Ryzen with am4 socket..
Now let’s wait for a 6800x GPU to pair with ;)
DDR5 is a year away! smh
@@BlackJesus8463 I doubt it will be available next year.... Even if it is, will expensive as hell ... And I don't want to wait 1 more year to start gaming again :)
@@MetallicaBoy86 I think you should buy a console.
@@BlackJesus8463 alright Mr. money bags chill
@@MetallicaBoy86 it will be. ddr4 aint going away for sometime
I'm pretty sure 5900x is going to be my next CPU.. would've gone for 5950x, but 5950x costs 2x times more than 5900x in my country
This wasnt a Nvidia launch! I actually got a 5900x
Hmm looks like 2080ti is bottlenecking performance now other reviews had Ryzen 5000 chips with much better performance in other games other than rdr 2
im coming from a I7-3770k and just bought the 5800x since it was in stock.. also bought water cooling for it so im hoping to overclock/and or undervolt it so i can maybe reach stock 5900x performance
I moved from i7-4970k to 5800x as well. Guess it was finally time.
Would you recommend upgrading the 2700x to the 5800x?
All hail the new king!!! I just secured the last friggin unit from my local store... Demand is massive!
That box design do be looking nice
Isn't 3200Mhz memory a bit slow, since Ryzen loves fast memory?
3200MHz with tight timings is plenty fine.
price difference is almost non-existant nowadays between 3200 and 3600, in late 2020 there is no good reason left to buy 3200 imo
I'm seeing a pretty substantial price difference between 32 an 3600 in the U.S... Many 3200MHz CL16 kits are as cheap as $60. Not seeing many 3600 kits in that price range. Either way, won't make a huge difference at all.
@@GregSalazar when you say "tight timings", what do you mean? Maybe a spot for a niche video. I see an option of buying either a 3600 MHz CL18 kit or 3200 CL 16 kit for similar prices. I have very little knowledge on RAM overclocking potential, especially on timings, so I have no idea which of those kits would be better. Anyhow, the difference is probably so small that it does not matter, but it is nice to know these things instead of just presuming.
2 years later and you can now find ryzen 7 5800x for 215 dollars
2024: It's 3 years later and I'm trying to squeeze the last bit of life out of my AM4 socket X570 board. The 5900X is on sale for $249 as AMD comes out with the 9000 series CPU (there was a 7000 series (AM5/DDR5) after the 5000 series) in the AM5 socket with DDR5 memory. Oh, and intel 13th and 14th gen CPUs are having......issues, crashing issues.
I just installed Ryzen 9 5900x on my Asus Strix B450-E gaming motherboard. Oh my GOD! I could not beleave how it differ to my previous Ryzen 5 3600..... Did some quick test(No PBO, No OC): Geekbench5 1711 single 14 014 multi score, CPU-Z 685,4 single 9662,2 multi score, Time spy CPU score 15 120, Cinebench R15 266 single 3473 multi score!!! Its insane! (AIR cooler Noctua NHD-15s, ram Patriot Viper steel 4400mhz CL19 tunned to 3733mhz, CL14,14,14,28)
I mostly agree with your conclusion! However I do believe a large swath of gamers are already on a Ryzen platform making this upgrade a no brainer. I also believe the 5800X will drop in price, the 5900X as well. The 5600 and 5700 will definitely be the sweet spot and I'm willing to bet that gaming performance will be equal or close to the benchmarks shown today! The 5600 may even perform better with over clocking! Less cores may give it more thermal head room. The reason i believe this is because as we've seen with the 3300X, thermal head room can give a great OC and a great OC on Ryzen can give amazing in game performance! It only has 4 cores 8 threads, but most games don't use much more than 4 threads.
Loved your video Greg.. Gives us the base line for Ryzen third gen on B550. "IF" an X570 test bench comes around would you be inclined to show any performance comparisons? Thanks Greg for the review!
Intel is going to make MAD MONEY until Jan. I will explain... Ryzen 9 5900x just like the RTX 3080 will be a myth for the next 3 months which will make intel VERY happy. Because until Jan they will be the only game in town. When people cant buy the best what do they do? They buy second best
Intel new CPUs will also have stock issues. Once it is released it will take months for the stocks to come.
@@jayvee8502 umm im talking about people buying intel NOW you dingus since no one can buy ryzen they will go to second best. Intel. They are the only processors you can buy atm
Great Video Greg!! Not sure what you did different, but this video had a really nice flow to it. Your info, and graphs were great. Keep up the awesome work my man!!! You're the cream of the crop my man!!!
In 2022 I think this chip rocks, picked mine up for $280 at BestBuy and dropped my thermals 10 deg from a Ryzen 3500. I'm getting high frams at high settings on every game I play so far. I do have great airflow and a 240mm AIO but same set up the 3500 was in. picking up the 5900X today for my other rig. I will be skipping the 5th Gen for a good while, prob till price drops on them as well
AMD Yeeted Intel.
Not yet, the availability is so poor (just like NVidia's 30 series) that I'm contemplating a 10700k to replace my 5820k. Even though I would've loved to switch to an AMD 5800X. Or I'll just wait and combine an AMD GPU and CPU in a few months... choices choices. Something I missed having last time I built a PC.
They are about the same in games
I gotta agree with Greg...intel on 14nm+++++ for so many years....AMD with IPC increase and a new architecture... yet it just matches intel's performance....i expected more with all the hype AMD did
exactly what im saying. I am in no way a fan boy of either since i use both brands in my home ( i tend to get my family whatever has the better price and performance together). But whenn are people going to stop just getting excited because we are fed biased information. This is the 4th generation of zen and they just now are matching the performance in gaming that intel has been putting out with older architecture. Yes, i agree intel needs to come out with something new already instead of rebranding the same thing each year and calling it new, but to see them still put out this type of performance with older processes shows how good their product actually is. I mean we still see people using older ddr3 era i7's today. Stop falling into you need the new item because i say its better trap people
I know this won't sit well with certain subreddits, but I was genuinely expecting a bit more from the games I tested given what we saw from single-core synthetic runs. But a good thing to take away from this is that either company in the right setting is relevant for gamers and content creators. It's great to have choice.
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 true that. I'm no fanboy of any of these tech companies. If you've been long around the desktop pc space, it's easy to see this. They did so much. At least they finally matched it. But for workstation i'll agree AMD has gotten ahead
For gaming performance yes but for a CPU that has way better performance than in productivity and can game on par with intels equivalent CPU, that is already great.
@@Bryniactheunwise3221 yes only idiots upgrade every gen, so people are idiots like apple sheep, so company makes profit , what to whine about, i think you are just sad.
Really wish you would of had the 5600X to compare against the 10700K!
thanks for the coverage Greg! i actually was able to preorder my r9 5900x at like 11pm mts from b&h even though i have a rog Crosshair hero 7 wifi i assumed these would instantly sell out so i jumped on it while i could because my 2700x died on me so im stuck with a athalon 200ge for right now until bios updates roll for x470. My question is do you think the potential 2 month+ delay for x470 board support was really necessary? or do you think it was to give 5000 series buyers on a older am4 platform more of a reason to upgrade boards?
Hey Bryce, the software/BIOS support delay could have been for a number of reasons. Obviously, X570 is gonna be a priority, and it'll trickle down from there. But since they're all motivated to _sell_ motherboards, the delay was also (likely) at least somewhat strategic for X470.
@@GregSalazar thanks for your reply love the videos!
Just sold 3900XT for quite a big loss, it was not used once and i decided to buy the 5800x. hopefully i wont regret this.
Hello Greg do you think for a 5950X on R20 a 10800 score on multi and 576 on Single Core is good im wondering if i lack performance? as im rocking a 5950X on a X570 A PRO MSI motherboard
If the 3900X is going for 300 bucks around Black Friday that's going to be the slam dunk buy for the holidays.
I am actually glad you did the testing on the B550 board. It shows what more budget oriented people would purchase. Great video thanks.
You really think most people buying a 5900x are going b550? That's a bit of a stretch imo.
So buy a high end cpu to cheap on on not getting a x570? Makes no sense
Lol I’m putting it on a b550
@@JustAFan444 is the b550 to expensive?
@@JustAFan444b550 is gaming version is more than fine
why is everyone showing 1080p benchmarks, are you guys under some NDA for allowing 1440p and 4k? since the 5950x trades blows or more often than not looses to a 10900k at those resolutions?
I have a 3900x atm but I'm upgrading to a 5800x to pair with a new AMD GPU for the extra performance boost it gets... I can't wait!
Did you get the 5800x? What cooler did you get? Is it really hot or does your cooler do soem good job? Im trying to get one and see how it goes.
@@elkmeatenjoyer3409 I did and i also got the ARCTIC COOLING Liquid Freezer II - 280mm and haven't had any issues with it!
I want a ridge wallet so bad, but $100+ for a wallet is just too much for me. I know there are cheaper ones, but those don't look as nice as the more expensive ones (duh)
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Just picked up a 7 5800x for a straight steal. Wanna make sure it’s gonna handle the build 4 or 5 years down the road
Yup good call. That's plenty fast for now. smart.
In my case, I went from 2700x to 5800x not simply for the upgrade but to invest in Smart Access Memory once the 6000 series cards launch. This is going to be a long term build for me and while I’d have to upgrade from a x570 board I think by then the value will be there on a generation per generation level to upgrade much much later in the 5nm line. Potentially towards the end of that gen or beginning of whatever is beyond that.
Hell ya bro just upgraded from a 2600 to a 5800x found one for a steal
The 5800x is the perfect gaming CPU, especially during the time you got it. All 8 cores and only one CCD, unlike my 5900x with 2x CCDs. Not that it matters in benchmarks, but theoretically...
However, the 5900x does run WAYYYY cooler than the 5800x. I average around 4.75ghz in games. I use Curve Optimizer, though. I get 5.55-5.6ghz in CPU-z stress test pulling 142 watts, too, and barely touch 65C. Only if the room is hot. However, I do have one of the better coolers over it... a Fuma 2 Rev B. Better than any $120 AIO water cooler.
3dmark has to have a update. How can ryzen 5000 series run worse/on par with ryzen 3000. My 5950x scores lower then my old 3950x in 3d mark cpu scores.
Did you ever come out with a video about overclocking or tuning these chips? ive looked but i cant find it.
I'm just wow. Its so weird seeing AMD on the top of gaming benchmarks. Its awesome. If they keep this up whenever I replace my 8700k I could switch platforms.
Actually in purely gaming benchmarks Ryzen is mostly the same as Intel. If you looks closely, all gaming benchmark average might have been in favour of Intel. Granted that you compare same core count chips (5800x vs 10700k).
probably not changing out my 3800x for a while then i'll be good.
Managed to snag a 5600x today. They were actually in stock for more than 10 minutes, which is an eternity compared to the RTX launches...
how do you have so few views? this was an amazing review
I appreciate the support, Felix!
@@GregSalazar i appreciate the work you put into the content and quality of your videos sir... it honestly amazing
Man, I picked up a 3800XT just recently. This is making my resolve to not go to MicroCenter super hard to keep
Why? Zen 3 isn't really as cool as it was hyped up to. Gains are minimal and there's a substantial increase in power consumption, worse thermals and higher price.
@@MJ-uk6lu what are you talking about? I have literally not heard anyone say anything that the thermals or power consumption going up, if anything it's gone down by a tiny percentage, which isn't much to ride home about, but besides the point. I don't know who told you that lie, but you best recheck that for your self if you somehow believe AMD fucked up those two aspects which has literally been one of their biggest selling points since Zen 1.
I'm a content creator and a gamer, Zen 3 is showing lots of improvements, so yes, I am definitely excited for it, whether or not I get it is a completely different question.
@@FilipinoWaylon26 lol
@@FilipinoWaylon26 Maximum power consumption in Greg's video was clearly higher and maximum heat out put was also higher. Now maximum power consumption might have been spiky, however in longer test maximum thermals literally show how hot the hottest core will be. It's at over 90C. That's really awful and it's with 120mm single tower cooler. Pathetic.
If 10-20% improvement is worth 400 dollars to you, then by all means get Zen 3. For gamers that's literally 0% improvement in many cases. How is that remotely worth it?
I think they should drop the prices a bit
Hey Greg, thanks for making this video! In case you want suggestions for another video, could you please test which memories and motherboards would be the best to buy for the 5800x and the 5600x? I got one of each, but I'm kind of puzzled which motherboard and RAMs I should buy. People are telling me that I should go for RAMs that are not faster or slower than 3600-3666Mhz with a CL16 latency.
~ Open your kind of motherboard website
~ Find support
~ Checked memory QVL Vermer (maybe soon)
Recently bought a 3090. Figured i wouldn't need updates for a while. Then I launched Cyberpunk 2077 and my 7700K started crying... 40-50FPS. Changing graphics does nothing. I check the monitoring tools and see that my poor 4 cores are stuck to 100% usage...
Just ordered 5800X and X570 mobo. Already got 32GB DDR4. Hopefully, this system will last me at least 3-4 years.
Rip recent 10900k buyers
Hey Greg, Can you see how the 5900X & 5950X compare in gaming with 'hyperthreading" enabled vs disabled 1080p, 1440p & 4K? Is there any benefit with the higher core count CPUs to disable hyperthrerading if only gaming, with minimal office/browsing work.
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during the intro was the background music from the game zombies ate my neighbors lol
I am excited about that cinebench score for the 5800x. Just snagged one. Planning to do 4k editing, gaming and maybe streaming.
Currently rocking a 1700 with a 1080ti... Should I upgrade? Or should I wait for a "5700" sku?
Would definitely wait brotha! If you don't need the performance right now, then definitely wait.
Wait, there's no need to upgrade yet. After few years you may want to think about whole platform upgrade.
The R7 5800X is currently $300 at Micro Center. I will be buying one ASAP.
Hallo and Merry Christmas
I have a question I can't find any info about online as noone seems to address this...
I know 2x16gb of dual rank gives you 4 ranks
I know 4x16gb of single rank give you 4 ranks
My question is what are the effects when you use 4x16 dual rank sticks? Do you have any gains? Do you actually effect negatively the system? Does the system even use the sticks properly at that point?
I am using Asus strix x570 E & Ryzen 9 5900X
The memory is G.SKILL TRIDENTZ NEO 2X16GB DDR4-3600MHz F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC
Linus @Linus Techtips was talking about different youtubers got very different results and maybe the memoryspeed is playing a much bigger role when using the new AMD Cpu:s, which memory frequency did you have @greg?
got a 10700k for $330 with a $60 dollar game! Also seen them going for as low as $289.99 which is just a killer steal don't get me wrong the new Ryzen chips are amazing and faster in most things but you're not getting an 8 core Zen 3 chip for under $400. I am going to be a little Selfish in requesting a full comparison between the 5600x at $300 vs the 10700k at $300 to $350 I think that is where the battlegrounds for most value is to be had this holiday season.
I've been on a ryzen 5 1600 since launch. I upgrade my mobo to a b550 earlier and just got a Ryzen 7 5800x today looking forward to upgrade in that sweet spot
Its good? No negatives? Iam thinking of getting the 5800x
do you think this will make other prices come down? I would like to get a R5 3600 a bit cheaper if possible
Might make older gen chips go down 15-25% but you'll need to wait a month or 2
Maybe a tiny, but not now. They will likely be reduced when non X versions come out.
2080ti is gpu bottleneck....wouldn't have expected that 2 years ago honestly.
Not gonna lie. I don't know much about computers, but I have a custom built one in the works right now that will have a 5800X.
I just bought the 5900x to replace my i7-7700K. Did I make the right choice?
Yes, perfect choice even.
For most gamers and other benchmarks I've seen, the 5800X is the CPU to get.
That is the opposite conclusion of Gamers Nexus. The 5600 is the best value, but the 5900 is also excellent if you have higher needs
Maybe that's correct, when you consider the 5900 is only around a 100 notes more.
Ryzen 5800x is on sale at Microcenter for $369.99 (6/8/21). Best Buy was able to price match for me so I just picked one up.
I got it for 10$ cheaper.
@@sokol5805 Whaaaaat. Even better deal lol.