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Looking forward to the reviews. Based on what I've seen from Anandtech's benchmarks, the 5800X is the CPU to get for gaming. It wins against the 5900X/5950X more often than not in games, probably because it's a single CCX (so lower memory latency like the 3300X) and at least most games can't take advantage of the extra cores on the 5900X/5950X.
Yeah they still wrote up to in the presentation ..but they now you buy a CPU and can stleast expect that under good cooling it also hits those numbers ..
Just yesterday I had this conversation with a friend, that if a company is advertising "up to" figures, they also should be required to clearly inform consumers about the "guaranteed" figures of a given product, that was in the context of battery life, but applies to frequency or overall performance as well.
"We should put something from intel on here... just so it doesn't look like we've forgotten about them" Hoo wee 17 seconds in and he's already bringing the heat
@@charlesleavitt13 I'm at 4.15 because to get 4.2 I have to increase vcore substantially. I got it to 4.3 for shits and giggles but I had to increase the vcore so much that during p95 it shot up to 250W package power and even with an NH-D15 it reached 101° in just a couple minutes, so I had to terminate the test. At 4.15 I stay under 160W and 80° even in sustained prime95. On the other hand I can't seem to get my 3200 memory at 3000MHz stable no matter how much I overvolt the SOC, and I've never booted past 3000. I don't know if it's a compatibility issue with the board or the CPU itself, but currently I'm running at 2866 and I'm sad.
22:21 Let's take a moment to think about this. The 5950X is drawing just 15.6 more watts more than a 10600K. You're getting 10 more cores and 20 more threads, all with stronger single thread performance, for just 15.6 watts. Let that sink in for a moment.
@@nickhero6329 😰😏🥵 NO NO AND TRIPPLE NO. He's coming in MY house DIRECTLY, without A delay. Whether HE wants IT, OR not! HERE in this COUNTRY, in mY KITCHEN, THERE *IS* an AURORA BOEARlias Bauuauauauauau bauauauauauauauaua. aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh *shits and dies*
“AMD’s marketed specs are meant to be an “at least” this time, not an “at most and maybe sometimes if you live in fantasy land.” Stephen sure has a way with words! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you AMD. Just imagine, for 1 second, AMD doesnt do all of this and we are stuck on 14nm Intel chips with high prices and no real performance boost compared to earlier generations. We WOULDNT even know that we are getting screwed that much.
Good Lord, I totally blanked that there’s going to be a new Threadripper for this generation. What kind of nightmare monster are they going to bring out for that??
I still remember 2006 when Intel released Core 2 Duo and took the performance crown away from AMD for 1.5 decades. Maybe this is AMD's revenge for Athlon 64.
Intel succeeded cuz of 3 things: - Core 2 - Bribing OEMs AMD lost cuz of 3 things: - Core 2 - not being as dishonest as Intel - Purchase of ATi caused losses, atleast then. [Back then]
@@TheG60528XiJinPing wait. Yeah, it was good for the long run; but afaik, Assassin's Creed works better on nVidia and Forza is better on Radeon. Where am I wrong?
swapping a 1000 series ryzen for a 5000 series one is one heck of a good upgrade. AMD did really well here to support the socket through such massive performance upgrades.
Currently building one myself. Current rig is an i5 3340 running a GT 1030 lol. Building full AMD rig that currently is gonna be a 2200g and a 8 GB 580. Gonna upgrade to the 5600X in a couple months though.
I'm happy for you. I started on the 2600x. Then went from the 3600 to the 3600X on a new motherboard with 4000Mhz RAM. OMG it was a huge boost in gaming performance! Just ordered the 5600X this morning from NewEgg and I'm all giddy.
The CPUs on Scan sold out in 9 minutes, and in 20 minutes they'd stopped taking additional preorders completely. At one point 1000+ people were on the site buying the 5950X at the same time! To Scan's credit, their website stayed up (albeit somewhat slow) and working the whole time!
Seeing this brings a smile to my face: no more stagnation. At last we have some performance gains at CPU-bound levels. If the 5600X *does indeed* have better performance, I’m looking forward to that review. *But Intel better not sleep on their jobs... lest AMD becomes the new Intel (with stagnation and unwillingness to improve).*
Unfortunately though we could have stagnation. Jim Keller left Intel early due to infighting, he probably didn't have time to fully develop his new design. Plus Intel is having trouble with their in house fabs.
@@craigdaurizio686 yeah, I feel like at the moment, intel is more economically but AMD is literally a beast. Intel really need to push their development.
I doubt AMD Will follow in intels path. The problem was intel spent/cut revenue to conduct anticompetitive activity, such as cutting deals with OEMs to make garbage AMD products in return for cheaper chips. If intel had just stayed the competitive path, and invested more into R&D they'd be better off now.
This is like the perfect chip for me. I do workstation tasks on my computer, and then in the evening, I play games to unwind. This does both of those things extremely well, at a price that doesn't make me wanna jump off a bridge. Managed to order one today, and it's coming tomorrow! I'm excited!
Have you gotten the chip yet, and if you have how do you like it so far? I'm considering getting one for my new build, or waiting a bit seeing what threadripper parts are coming in early 2021.. I also do workstation tasks, mostly code compilation.
@@ConductiveFoam I have it, but unfortunately, a BIOS bug in my motherboard is causing it to perform more like a 3950X at stock settings. I'm not the only one affected by this, it seems, but it's not getting as much coverage as it really should.
I came here second, just because I know I won't watch any other video after the roast from Steve... as I won't NEED to. and wanted to catch a bit of the LTT video. XD
@Frenk It was a joke and no Intel isn't dead, but they are losing out on COLOSSAL amounts of money (and market share) due to it being Q4 holiday season during Covid when everyone is inside looking to game. Intel's market share was already dropping rapidly before this launch now it's going to drop even faster.
@Brandon S Lol, I never thought I'd here the words "AMD is for benchmark chasers". AMD? Benchmark chasers? I want whatever your smoking. I've never heard anyone say that in over a decade. Lol, there is ONE AMD release and suddenly the Intel fanboys start whining "AMD is for benchmark chasers" like they've been the value option all along. Those "all that is ever needed" incremental improvements hampered the gaming industry and evidence of that is the amount of recycled games that occurred in that era compared to the amount of graphically intense games coming out now (it's just starting in the AAA sector). Games are starting to use multiple cores because of AMD and there is starting to be performance problems using 4c/8t chips in games (it's starting at the 0.1% and 1% lows, 4c/4t chips are practically unusable for most AA/AAA titles) and 4 core chips are already garbage when it comes to anything production related. Those 150 Xeons will do well in production for their price, but meh when it comes to gaming (you should be able to play most games at average settings 1080p 60fps, but if you're looking to play most games you can find 6 core Xeons that will do that for 25 USD, maybe less). Soon almost every new performance-demanding release will use 8 cores due to consoles getting 8 cores that happen to not be shitty jaguars and this only happened because of AMD.
@Brandon S It sounds like you're corporate boot licking. Intel was mad milking people. When I first bought an i5 2400 it was 189 CAD, when I bought the 4690k it was 315 CAD on sale. Look at the benchmarks for 4790k to 7700k, lol why even bother releasing new CPU at that pace? And obviously you're wrong that it's all that is needed, because AMD was not doing well at all and was still reeling from over a decade of lost business due to Intel's dirty practices, they needed to come back strong to save the company, not chase benchmarks. Plus there were a bunch of nitwits that believed they needed a $500 cpu for 1080p high refresh and they ate up the 9900k when it came out even though the 2600 was was a better price/perf ratio. Clearly people want performance to keep rising.
Good. They earned it. I am still stuck with Intel as software is still optimized or works with an Intel CPU. I am looking at you Android Studio and Hyper-v
@@timothygibney5656 hopefully they'll revise them for more optimization as more market share favors AMD and you can switch. At least intels next gen isn't too far away.
@Dizzy Gear VMware Workstation is an abomination. Sorry I can't figure yet how to get more than 200k transfer speed from my raid 0 disks and the AMD filter driver on my phenomII 8 years ago always conflicted with the guest tools. Esx is a different product but I am all hyper-v for home use as it's the fastest and least hassle of any solution. It runs on AMD CPUs but it can't do nested virtualization for my exams unlike Intel. At work of course AMD is years away from the data center and you use what Dell gives you
@Brandon S I have a 3600 ($170) and looking at these benchmarks my CPU operates at like half the performance of these top CPUs, but I have 0 issues with the CPU or performance on my computer
@@brendanr4961 I bought mine clicking like a madman on amds website. Whole site was lagging and my Cart was empty. And suddenly after about 30seconds a lot of processors showed up beeing in my cart. I then kicked out everything I didnt want and only bought my new processor. Im pretty sure the website got bottet. Thats gonna be a hard time getting my hands on that 6900XT
Steve, I used to think LTT was the gold standard for reviews. NO LONGER. In my professional opinion, you now make the best data driven reviews on the internet. Well done.
LTT does too much talking about feels. And just puts up a quick slideshow of a few basic benchmarks with barely any specificity. It's called Linux Media Group for a reason.
@Ryan IDK . LTT mostly is about entertainment now lol. Gotta get them clicks to pay the staff so I personally don't really hold it against them. Now, GN is my go to source for tech reviews and news. Rest of the techsphere is second.
He clarified that instead of doing the whole "UP TO XXGhz" and only managing it for like a few seconds, they went with a much better humble "AT LEAST" instead. So you buy it and think "Well it does at least this, and anything else I get is a great bonus!" instead of thinking "Fuck, they said it would be XX but it only did it for a second!". I wish more companies did that tbh. That's a much nicer way to do it. Pleasantly surprise people rather than "almost lie" to them.
@@SirAndras That may also be a lesson learned by AMD on the backlash from the 3900X Launch and the "The CPUs dont target 4,XGHz Boost for long" issue or whatever that was. So nothing to say against that from my side.
I love how unbiased you always are in your reviews. Always reviewing based on numbers and statistic instead of personal preference. This is the main reason I subscribed to this channel. Keep up the awesome work!
Intel: "Consider this Mercy" AMD during the FX day's: "Tell me, do you bleed?" *Ryzen Later* AMD Ryzen 9 5950X: "Well, here I am" Intel: "Wait, can we talk?"
I am wondering if the fx CPUs being included in power consumption charts is just the testing/video folks passive-aggressively suggesting Steve upgrade his home computer.
i've been building my pcs since i owned an amazing AMD K6-2 533 mhz... moved to a Athlon64X2 (blew my mind), then moved to an FX... bought the marvelous i5 2500k overclocked (my first overclock) that's still running smoothly as my "local server" 10 years after, and now... back to a 3700x... and this year has been amazing viewing that AMD has retaken it's place... always looking forward, always innovating.... and planning to pass my 3700x to my doughter and move to an 5xxx series... thanks for the video... amazing! subscribed!
alright, so quick report from germany: Didn't even take an hour before almost all stock has been sold out already, and now the only offers i can find, which btw don't even list an ETA, are at least 20% over MSRP. I wonder if AMD just didn't build enough stock or everyone seriously needs a PC upgrade (it's all probably bots anyway) Update: I was wrong, some places still list the 5800x at MSRP though i doubt that will last, whereas at least one major retailer didn't list the CPUs yet
Kind of a different story over here in Australia, 1 etailer alone said they had a minimum of 1000 chips for November, there are quite a few etailers here and it was one of the smaller ones, so there seems to be quite a large amount of stock for this remote part of the world. Technically our launch was pre-order like as the chips are actually arriving in stock on Monday (again we are on the other side of the world and covid is still going on effecting shipping). Also curiously the suppliers are saying that there is more stock of the 16 core than the 12 core. Also the etailers have stuck to the offical AMD MSRP and there has been no price increases, which is the exact opposite over nvidia and intel releases here. Oh the 6 core was still available about 10 hrs after launch too.
I have a 2700X and as a coder and hardcore gamer, I don't even have workloads to overload my CPU and the new gen is 3 times faster than mine amazing stuff from AMD.
Managed to snag a 5900x before they sold out here :o Stock at launch: 50 5600X, 50+ 5800X, 40 5900X, unknown 5950X All sold out in sub 3 minutes. *Edit, I should mention that I had put notifications on all the new CPUs. Not a single one landed in my inbox before they were sold out
And this is on the same 7 nm process and same motherboards. Imagine what AMD will be capable at when using 5 nm or 3 nm, with new motherboards... The future looks promising! 🤘🏻
This is what I've been waiting for! Thank you so much for providing us with so much useful data. Can't believe AMD is actually winning in single-threaded workloads!
RIP Intel indeed... beating an overclocked 10900k by a fair margin. This gives me high hopes for a 5600x going toe-toe with 10700k. Scratch that... it even beats the 10900k in some applications. So glad I didn't upgrade this year yet.
6:25 That is great. More companies should market the typical and lower performance and not the maximum performance that you might get under ideal conditions.
Thanks for your efforts Steve! Regardless my not needing a dedicated workstation, I've ordered a 5950X and gaming is going to rock!! Check this out, this totally new 5950X build is replacing my current "old" Intel i7 965 CPU build:) Night and day!!
@@Beos_Valrah If you can get your mitts on a second hand B450 board and a Ryzen 1700 you have a sweet upgrade path in some years when Ryzen 5000 drops in price + it will give you a solid boost from what you already have.
Forgot this was launch day and was randomly looking at my favourite etailers when I see the 5000 series for sale and in stock! I was tempted to get one but thought I’d check if review embargos were lifted (which they are), went back to the store and bam, all gone. Oh well, I can drool for free I guess haha.
I feel like it sucks though, to utilize a processor like the 5900x properly, you need their 6900XT, to get the performance needed to justify even buying the CPU lol.
@@TheGauges420 nope, he's not using an unreleased gpu on his testing here, you'll get even better performance when those GPU's do get released. This performance review is on current existing and buyable hardware.
@@michaelkeudel8770 I know he isnt. They arent released yet. But with this Rage Mode and smart access memory, we might be seeing some insane things coming from AMD. I'm actually legit excited about finally getting an AMD card for myself... I've only ever had a 2600x, then switched to a 3700x because I found it for $100, and my GPU was an MSI Duke RTX 2070 OC 8gb, and then 1 week before 3080 'launched' I snagged an MSI 2080ti Gaming X Trio for just $450 cash... but I want a 5800x/6800XT, but I may go 5900x just because I dont have a budget really, I have $1,500 I can spend, and I've already got all the storage I need, a B550 and an x570 (b550 is better tbh), I've got the case and PSU I need, all i have to get is a GPU/CPU and I'll be golden. Hopefully they'll be in stock soon.
Welp, looks like I'm getting an AMD system this fall. I was waiting for tests in case the 5000 series were terrible overclockers, as I run a few things that are _very_ clock frquency dependent, but with a stable 4.6 GHz OC Intel just doesn't have enough of an advantage for my use. So Intel, you served me well, but it's time to say good bye.
Saw this CPU was on sale on Newegg yesterday for $434 (new). As a last push with AM4 I think this is a great value especially over my current 3700X. At least in gaming, the charts are showing about a 50% increase in the 1%/0.1% lows. Hoping it helps with Cities: Skylines 2 lol.
@Applepro7 it has been pretty good. I've been using it to record with obs to offload from the gpu. So far no dropped frames. The Temps spike a bit, buy about the same. I'm cooling it with a 280mm AIO. I couldn't hit the benchmarks GN posted running stock (a few hundred points lower), but i was also doing those tests on a B450. I have a X570 now and haven't redone the tests.
motherboards matter? It does spike up randomly for sure i be at like 48 to 60 then random 70c. I do streaming so do you do the same? only use the CPU? I have a 7900xt not sure if i should do that as well. @@TheMet4lGod
Sat here staring at my 4770K, I'm still pretty content with it since I don't usually play the latest games. I don't really need the upgrade but man... someone needs to hide my wallet.
still stuck with a 4790k. The upgrade is getting stronger but then again I only use my PC for word, emails, League of legends and valorant. Not really a reason for an upgrade lol.
@@vagabondht5791 I went from a 3770K to the x570 64GB 3600 memory and the 3700X, these new 5-series is the plan for the final upgrade in a couple of years. Waiting for an 3080 Tuf OC.... and maybe an AMD GPU might be a way to go too when this is getting old? I have a PCIe 4.0 already, but one warning, don't fill the Corsair MP600 more than 50% writespeed drops like it's choking down from 4000 Mb/sec to 1500 at 61%, and before I cleaned it up a bit, having 81% filled dropped it to 500Mb/sec. MSFS2020 takes it's toll...
I owned a 4770k ... Thinking of turning it into a FreeNAS box. Anyway for work stuff my jump to a 9900k was noticable. Sure boot times are similar but it will show its age if you are not careful. Mad dogs, rd2, Adobe premiere, or virtualization will make it beg for mercy
@@darcrequiem he used the 1700; technically it launched at 330, but who's counting? I'd say it's balanced out by the use of the 10850k. And since there's no 5700x (yet), the 5800x stands.
Yeah In the lioness's test bench all of the intel 10th gen were running at tdp limited power... So if you watch hardware unboxed 9900k review limiting the tdp is still the 9900k but like 10% slower at timess... Im not an intel fanboy im loyal to my money... And i believe 450 for 8 cores is kinda odd the price tag is like 50 bucks higher than last gen...
In-slot product comparisons based on MSRP, which is what 3rd party reviewers will do, is effectively irrelevant for this generation of GPUs, or at least the relevant lifespan of said reviews. It's going to come down to who has the greater supply and/or if you really want to pay a premium to get a card from the secondary market.
Steve "we are forced to add Intel on the graph's as there is no real competition now" also Steve whilst saying this eye's tearing up because Intel is truly dead ... Lisa Su promised AMD great things and she delivered ... Team Red are gonna win for a long while ... and when the new Radeon cards come out Nvidia are gonna share Intels pain ... this video brought me such joy
Was able to finally get my mitts on a 5950X about a month ago...it's fast...stupid fast...thank you AMD for this insanity in a mainstream desktop. There's nothing that my PC can't do now...just takes in the work, chews on it rapidly and spits it out done.
Me too, specially because I'm still on X370 and it's doing just fine. Gaming, Folding and Solidworks Simulations. I'm more interested in the GPUs tbh. But AMD really did something amazing with Zen3! Bravo!
@@jpfidalgo7 in your case. Definitely stick with it. Upgrading to 5000 series with x570 in a year or so when prices are cheaper might even make sense or waiting patiently two more years for the new gen with ddr5 stabilizing.
@@Sunny-mz3xr it's probably what i'm gonna do. The only option I see is just to upgrade for a used 3900X in a year or so. Even if the Mobo dies, I would just replace it with X570 and stay with the rest, because the Vega56 is what is showing it's age in 1440p. Even in the games I play it goes more head to head with GTX1080 or 2060, some of the driver issues are making me think about the 3070 in the next year...
@Gamers Nexus I am just now realizing that Steve said over the next 24hrs the videos will be out, so the next two will come out tomorrow/technically later today. Thank you for the in depth videos. I am thinking about getting one of the bar mats to put on my wall.
Steve, also because of your review I got myself a 5950X, and I'm SUPER happy with it. :-) Gaming and Studio One is like a breeze, I'm glad I could also see your review before I decided to get myself one.
What is missing from this chart is TR 1950X, as that was 16C offer from AMD some time ago, and many might be thinking if upgrading to 5950X is worth it.
They all sold out in 1 minute here in Sweden. One of the biggest computer parts retailers had only 6 5950X at launch for the entire country. Not sure about the other retailers because they all sold out before I could see.
I'm still on an i7 4790K and I placed an order for the 5950X for its ability to game and to support my heavier multi core workloads better than my current system (which has only 4 cores, 8 threads). Looking forward to some mad gains!
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Did you forgot the conclusion part?
The timestamp.
i always watch start and end.
Hail Tech Jesus
Looking forward to the reviews.
Based on what I've seen from Anandtech's benchmarks, the 5800X is the CPU to get for gaming. It wins against the 5900X/5950X more often than not in games, probably because it's a single CCX (so lower memory latency like the 3300X) and at least most games can't take advantage of the extra cores on the 5900X/5950X.
What ram should I get for the 5800x
5600x gang
I like this marketing trend of "At least" instead of "At most" or "up to"
Yeah they still wrote up to in the presentation ..but they now you buy a CPU and can stleast expect that under good cooling it also hits those numbers ..
You have to admit it's pretty funny Steve contacted AMD to ask about the CPU being too fast, to get an answer saying it's okay if it's too fast.
Just yesterday I had this conversation with a friend, that if a company is advertising "up to" figures, they also should be required to clearly inform consumers about the "guaranteed" figures of a given product, that was in the context of battery life, but applies to frequency or overall performance as well.
I get the feeling that type of thing will only happen under two conditions.
A) It's from AMD
B) They are absolutely dominating the competition.
Honesty has a high price tag in the current business climate, but luckily AMD is swimming in performant products.
"We should put something from intel on here... just so it doesn't look like we've forgotten about them"
Hoo wee 17 seconds in and he's already bringing the heat
If he says any more he might start melting intell with his come backs.
all you have to do is show the red dead charts and you can get away with leaving them out. hahahaaha it's the only chart that intel won.
Read this when he said it.
a brilliant ROAST... Intel's nuts were not roasting over a little fire... it was a full on volcano
Gets better, cause the 5900X nets you more FPS in games than the 5950X...
The snark about the 2700X's 199 FPS being completely unplayable is the level of humor that keeps me watching.
The 2700X in my PC must have been chuckling as the CPU fan ramped up for abit.... 😶. It made me stop laughing and wonder wtf was going on lol...
@@earthtaurus5515 The 2700(x) is still such a good piece of hardware, I'm so glad I went with the 8c/16t CPU instead of cheaping out...
@@earthtaurus5515 it knows...
My OC 2700X running 4.2ghz all core feels personally attacked 😂
@@charlesleavitt13 I'm at 4.15 because to get 4.2 I have to increase vcore substantially. I got it to 4.3 for shits and giggles but I had to increase the vcore so much that during p95 it shot up to 250W package power and even with an NH-D15 it reached 101° in just a couple minutes, so I had to terminate the test.
At 4.15 I stay under 160W and 80° even in sustained prime95.
On the other hand I can't seem to get my 3200 memory at 3000MHz stable no matter how much I overvolt the SOC, and I've never booted past 3000. I don't know if it's a compatibility issue with the board or the CPU itself, but currently I'm running at 2866 and I'm sad.
22:21 Let's take a moment to think about this. The 5950X is drawing just 15.6 more watts more than a 10600K. You're getting 10 more cores and 20 more threads, all with stronger single thread performance, for just 15.6 watts. Let that sink in for a moment.
I would NEVER let that sink WAITING outside my DOOR😡
well, it makes total sense since the 10600k is still 14nm++++++++
@@cyangalaxy not even for just a moment?
@@nickhero6329 😰😏🥵 NO NO AND TRIPPLE NO. He's coming in MY house DIRECTLY, without A delay. Whether HE wants IT, OR not! HERE in this COUNTRY, in mY KITCHEN, THERE *IS* an AURORA BOEARlias Bauuauauauauau bauauauauauauauaua. aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh *shits and dies*
@@gustavosifuentes292 Which in reality is the same old 8700K, just better binned and with "different" socket
“AMD’s marketed specs are meant to be an “at least” this time, not an “at most and maybe sometimes if you live in fantasy land.” Stephen sure has a way with words! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Definitely, and I am very excited that AMD went this way. And, it is disappointing that AMD needed pressure to correct this.
Amazingly though as we've seen they understated and over delivered
He is called Tech Jesus for a reason, you know.
Lol read that 2 seconds before he said it, was like magic
Thank you AMD.
Just imagine, for 1 second, AMD doesnt do all of this and we are stuck on 14nm Intel chips with high prices and no real performance boost compared to earlier generations.
We WOULDNT even know that we are getting screwed that much.
Who knew that Intel literally held quad-core gaming back a decade!
True
I remember years ago I moved from a i5 4th to 7th to get not even 10% performance increase. 3 gens and that's what we got geez
We MIGHT have had a 6 core by now
@@kintustis and 6 core will just be releases in 2020 to combat ps5 or xbox series x lol
It was AMD’s fault that they ended up sucking for the first part of the decade and prompting Intel to become a monopoly.
I'm seriously impressed... how fast Steve can pronounce "5950X" lol
About the same speed they were out of stock
His side hussle is being an auctioneer.
@@sirius4k only for amd products
@@vrplaythrough626 Unlikely
50 9 50 x whats so hard
Good Lord, I totally blanked that there’s going to be a new Threadripper for this generation. What kind of nightmare monster are they going to bring out for that??
You wont see a new threadripper for a loooong time
There wont be a new Threadripper lmao... unless Intel releases a new Xeon thats actually competitive then maybe
it will be 'Epyc'', lol.
sorry, couldn't resist, I'm sure TR will be nice as hell with the CCX layout for some VM tasks. IPC, clocks, etc.
@Brandon S You sound salty bro.
Oh my lord! Right?
Thank you, AMD, for not giving up! It's only been 14 years since you were competitive. And every second of that wait has been worth it!
That was when i built my first gaming computer. Welp I am building my second one now since then.
But always... innovative. Namasté.
I still remember 2006 when Intel released Core 2 Duo and took the performance crown away from AMD for 1.5 decades. Maybe this is AMD's revenge for Athlon 64.
Intel succeeded cuz of 3 things:
- Core 2
- Bribing OEMs
AMD lost cuz of 3 things:
- Core 2
- not being as dishonest as Intel
- Purchase of ATi caused losses, atleast then.
[Back then]
@@fishyc43sar Almost all of the engineers that worked on the Athlon 64 were gone by the time Core 2 came out.
@@fishyc43sar That ati acquisition sure payed off in the long run as someone who only plays Battlefield, Assassin's Creed and Forza.
@@m8x425 yeah tho. But I want to know one thing - why did they? Internal politics.
@@TheG60528XiJinPing wait. Yeah, it was good for the long run; but afaik, Assassin's Creed works better on nVidia and Forza is better on Radeon. Where am I wrong?
Holy crap. This is utter carnage. Guess I know what I'll put in my pc refresh next year.
Im building a pc in the new year. Replacing my day 1 pre ordered 1700 & a radeon 480. Im so excited I cant stand it!
swapping a 1000 series ryzen for a 5000 series one is one heck of a good upgrade. AMD did really well here to support the socket through such massive performance upgrades.
Currently building one myself. Current rig is an i5 3340 running a GT 1030 lol. Building full AMD rig that currently is gonna be a 2200g and a 8 GB 580. Gonna upgrade to the 5600X in a couple months though.
@@odizzido I’ll be upgrading my FX based APU A10-7870k to a 5600X and dGPU. Stonks 😂
I'm happy for you. I started on the 2600x. Then went from the 3600 to the 3600X on a new motherboard with 4000Mhz RAM. OMG it was a huge boost in gaming performance! Just ordered the 5600X this morning from NewEgg and I'm all giddy.
@@asian_raisin 🤦♂️
I thought this was in a hour. Ain't got my popcorn yet.
Lucky I have many stocks of potato chips in the kitchen
@Talha Did you not learn from how fast GN released a video after Zen 3 launch and also after RDNA 2 launch? 😆
The CPUs on Scan sold out in 9 minutes, and in 20 minutes they'd stopped taking additional preorders completely. At one point 1000+ people were on the site buying the 5950X at the same time! To Scan's credit, their website stayed up (albeit somewhat slow) and working the whole time!
@@RS250Squid That is a lot better compared to how the 3000 series launched tbf.
@@azurai3934 yeah definitely. I ordered my card 6 weeks ago and im still in the mid 50s in the queue for my particular model.
Seeing this brings a smile to my face: no more stagnation. At last we have some performance gains at CPU-bound levels.
If the 5600X *does indeed* have better performance, I’m looking forward to that review.
*But Intel better not sleep on their jobs... lest AMD becomes the new Intel (with stagnation and unwillingness to improve).*
The 6 core isn't as quick, lower boost/silicon quality but it's $500 cheaper
Unfortunately though we could have stagnation. Jim Keller left Intel early due to infighting, he probably didn't have time to fully develop his new design. Plus Intel is having trouble with their in house fabs.
@@craigdaurizio686 yeah, I feel like at the moment, intel is more economically but AMD is literally a beast.
Intel really need to push their development.
I doubt AMD Will follow in intels path. The problem was intel spent/cut revenue to conduct anticompetitive activity, such as cutting deals with OEMs to make garbage AMD products in return for cheaper chips. If intel had just stayed the competitive path, and invested more into R&D they'd be better off now.
@@SuperSushiRoll this is what every company will do if they can afford it. Y’know stonks. The big ones don’t care too much about a single user.
This is like the perfect chip for me. I do workstation tasks on my computer, and then in the evening, I play games to unwind. This does both of those things extremely well, at a price that doesn't make me wanna jump off a bridge.
Managed to order one today, and it's coming tomorrow! I'm excited!
Have you gotten the chip yet, and if you have how do you like it so far? I'm considering getting one for my new build, or waiting a bit seeing what threadripper parts are coming in early 2021.. I also do workstation tasks, mostly code compilation.
@@ConductiveFoam I have it, but unfortunately, a BIOS bug in my motherboard is causing it to perform more like a 3950X at stock settings. I'm not the only one affected by this, it seems, but it's not getting as much coverage as it really should.
@@MickehPuppeh Ah damn, that's unfortunate. Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind.
Hope it gets resolved soon!
How is it now? Which mobo do you have?
@@wdunn06 Got an MSI mobo, but the only fix that worked is getting a new chip. It's better - still not quite where it should be, but close enough.
When embargo is over but GN deserves the first watch!
Saw a MSI tweet and rush here
I came here second, just because I know I won't watch any other video after the roast from Steve... as I won't NEED to. and wanted to catch a bit of the LTT video. XD
100% truth
I actually watch LTT first as more entertainment high level info, then move to the more technical like GN.
Ltt first so I know if it good or bad for the parts that go over my head
RIP Intel - 2020 They always loved creating incremental improvements in their products.
@Brandon S troll xD
@Frenk It was a joke and no Intel isn't dead, but they are losing out on COLOSSAL amounts of money (and market share) due to it being Q4 holiday season during Covid when everyone is inside looking to game. Intel's market share was already dropping rapidly before this launch now it's going to drop even faster.
🔥
@Brandon S Lol, I never thought I'd here the words "AMD is for benchmark chasers". AMD? Benchmark chasers? I want whatever your smoking. I've never heard anyone say that in over a decade. Lol, there is ONE AMD release and suddenly the Intel fanboys start whining "AMD is for benchmark chasers" like they've been the value option all along.
Those "all that is ever needed" incremental improvements hampered the gaming industry and evidence of that is the amount of recycled games that occurred in that era compared to the amount of graphically intense games coming out now (it's just starting in the AAA sector). Games are starting to use multiple cores because of AMD and there is starting to be performance problems using 4c/8t chips in games (it's starting at the 0.1% and 1% lows, 4c/4t chips are practically unusable for most AA/AAA titles) and 4 core chips are already garbage when it comes to anything production related.
Those 150 Xeons will do well in production for their price, but meh when it comes to gaming (you should be able to play most games at average settings 1080p 60fps, but if you're looking to play most games you can find 6 core Xeons that will do that for 25 USD, maybe less).
Soon almost every new performance-demanding release will use 8 cores due to consoles getting 8 cores that happen to not be shitty jaguars and this only happened because of AMD.
@Brandon S It sounds like you're corporate boot licking. Intel was mad milking people. When I first bought an i5 2400 it was 189 CAD, when I bought the 4690k it was 315 CAD on sale. Look at the benchmarks for 4790k to 7700k, lol why even bother releasing new CPU at that pace?
And obviously you're wrong that it's all that is needed, because AMD was not doing well at all and was still reeling from over a decade of lost business due to Intel's dirty practices, they needed to come back strong to save the company, not chase benchmarks.
Plus there were a bunch of nitwits that believed they needed a $500 cpu for 1080p high refresh and they ate up the 9900k when it came out even though the 2600 was was a better price/perf ratio. Clearly people want performance to keep rising.
Can't wait to see zen 3 in laptops after seeing that power consumption chart.
Must seem like witchcraft or magic to Intel
GN: "Our bar mat is spill proof"
Cat: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
Steve-O, you da man! Thanks a lot (to you and the team behing the curtains) for taking the time to give us these reviews!
steve o xD
"Embarrassing, is the right word for intel right now."
I felt that.
F
Good. They earned it. I am still stuck with Intel as software is still optimized or works with an Intel CPU. I am looking at you Android Studio and Hyper-v
@@timothygibney5656 hopefully they'll revise them for more optimization as more market share favors AMD and you can switch. At least intels next gen isn't too far away.
@Dizzy Gear VMware Workstation is an abomination. Sorry I can't figure yet how to get more than 200k transfer speed from my raid 0 disks and the AMD filter driver on my phenomII 8 years ago always conflicted with the guest tools. Esx is a different product but I am all hyper-v for home use as it's the fastest and least hassle of any solution. It runs on AMD CPUs but it can't do nested virtualization for my exams unlike Intel. At work of course AMD is years away from the data center and you use what Dell gives you
@Brandon S Hope you enjoy your 100% of your chip that runs 80% as well.
I'm just more down to earth. Can't afford a CPU like that anyway. I can't wait to see how Ryzen 3 5xxx will crush the market.
Oh hey, fellow budget pc builder!
Then you just wait for 5300X to launch and you'll be a happy camper. Or wait for next year and get a 5600x
Amen, brother!
@Brandon S I have a 3600 ($170) and looking at these benchmarks my CPU operates at like half the performance of these top CPUs, but I have 0 issues with the CPU or performance on my computer
There are still alot of 5950x in my local shop. No stock issues at all..... OOps I jinxed it is already sold out XD
It is bundled even with Far Cry 6
I got mine hehe xd
Did they get botted or just sold?
In our local shop it was in stock 30 minutes after launch.... now is in stock only 5800x. Imo good for a launch. :)
@@brendanr4961 I bought mine clicking like a madman on amds website. Whole site was lagging and my Cart was empty. And suddenly after about 30seconds a lot of processors showed up beeing in my cart. I then kicked out everything I didnt want and only bought my new processor. Im pretty sure the website got bottet. Thats gonna be a hard time getting my hands on that 6900XT
My 5950x is on its way, getting it tomorrow :)
Zen 3 Threadripper is going to be insane for workstations. The performance for R9 5950x is really impressive too.
It's nice to see AMD and Intel competing hard against each other. It's a great time to build a new PC.
Steve, I used to think LTT was the gold standard for reviews. NO LONGER. In my professional opinion, you now make the best data driven reviews on the internet. Well done.
LTT does too much talking about feels. And just puts up a quick slideshow of a few basic benchmarks with barely any specificity. It's called Linux Media Group for a reason.
@@JayJayYUP Linus*
@Ryan IDK . LTT mostly is about entertainment now lol. Gotta get them clicks to pay the staff so I personally don't really hold it against them. Now, GN is my go to source for tech reviews and news. Rest of the techsphere is second.
@@zetsubou3704 Meh auto-correct nonsense, I'm sure you know about it.
@@JayJayYUP Eh happens to all of us :)
6:00 lol so your saying that these new cpus run faster then advertised and its not a feature just how it is. lol Noice..
Potentially faster, depending on the quality of the sillicon you get, which is random whenever you buy any CPU.
He clarified that instead of doing the whole "UP TO XXGhz" and only managing it for like a few seconds, they went with a much better humble "AT LEAST" instead. So you buy it and think "Well it does at least this, and anything else I get is a great bonus!" instead of thinking "Fuck, they said it would be XX but it only did it for a second!". I wish more companies did that tbh. That's a much nicer way to do it. Pleasantly surprise people rather than "almost lie" to them.
Talk about a win-win for the consumer.... so the lowest expected clock speed is their max... now that is marketing I can completely get behind
@@SirAndras That may also be a lesson learned by AMD on the backlash from the 3900X Launch and the "The CPUs dont target 4,XGHz Boost for long" issue or whatever that was. So nothing to say against that from my side.
Anthrax the porsche way
Drinking Game: Evey time tech jesus says „fiffynine fiffyex“ take a shot
LOL he said it just as I was reading the comment.. perfect sync
My doctor said no
I have to work today!
@@frealms your doc have no idea..
how dead you will be :D
I was going to upvote. But left it at 69 likes.
Cmon, nobody is going to talk about the perfect shot with the cat? i mean it spilled the glass perfectly in the mat!
The story of AMD and Intel over the last few years is like a retelling of the tortoise and the hare.
It will be interesting to see how much extra performance they get when paired with a 6800/6800xt/6900xt GPU, with that Smart Access Memory
U posted the same comment at LTT.
Oh yes, wanna see the whole combo with SAM active.
intels dead already, no need to dug the carcass anymore :v
@@amashaziz2212 It’s a good question
About 2%
I love how unbiased you always are in your reviews. Always reviewing based on numbers and statistic instead of personal preference. This is the main reason I subscribed to this channel.
Keep up the awesome work!
reminder.. the number is only what they did at the tme.. don't mean it alway... right now.. it still not that much differnt..
The obliteration!
I just wanna see the 5900x, my soon to be CPU.
Imagine the performance leap going from a i5 7400 to a Ryzen 9 5900x!
What about my i5 3570 that is bottlenecking my gtx 1070 ?
Just got the 5900x upgrading from a 5820k
@@TemporaryVoid W3680 reporting in :D
Looking to upgrade from the 6600k, sadly the 5900x is 580 euro over here (680 dollar).
I have the i5-7600, lol. It did it's job, it's now time to take it out back and put it down.
Intel: "Consider this Mercy"
AMD during the FX day's: "Tell me, do you bleed?"
*Ryzen Later*
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X: "Well, here I am"
Intel: "Wait, can we talk?"
I am wondering if the fx CPUs being included in power consumption charts is just the testing/video folks passive-aggressively suggesting Steve upgrade his home computer.
@Brandon S Don't care, Didn't ask.
Plus, nobody is saying you need to dump perfectly good hardware for new and shiny hardware.
@Brandon S If thats the only argument you can make against the new 5k series, we accept your surrender.
@Brandon S nothing, you have a perfectly capable chip. But you don't have the best either
@Brandon S and when your chip was released it was also for “benchmark chasers”. Seriously, what a dumb comment 😂
i've been building my pcs since i owned an amazing AMD K6-2 533 mhz... moved to a Athlon64X2 (blew my mind), then moved to an FX... bought the marvelous i5 2500k overclocked (my first overclock) that's still running smoothly as my "local server" 10 years after, and now... back to a 3700x... and this year has been amazing viewing that AMD has retaken it's place... always looking forward, always innovating.... and planning to pass my 3700x to my doughter and move to an 5xxx series... thanks for the video... amazing! subscribed!
Yesssssssssssssss I've been waiting forever for this
alright, so quick report from germany: Didn't even take an hour before almost all stock has been sold out already, and now the only offers i can find, which btw don't even list an ETA, are at least 20% over MSRP. I wonder if AMD just didn't build enough stock or everyone seriously needs a PC upgrade (it's all probably bots anyway)
Update: I was wrong, some places still list the 5800x at MSRP though i doubt that will last, whereas at least one major retailer didn't list the CPUs yet
Kind of a different story over here in Australia, 1 etailer alone said they had a minimum of 1000 chips for November, there are quite a few etailers here and it was one of the smaller ones, so there seems to be quite a large amount of stock for this remote part of the world. Technically our launch was pre-order like as the chips are actually arriving in stock on Monday (again we are on the other side of the world and covid is still going on effecting shipping). Also curiously the suppliers are saying that there is more stock of the 16 core than the 12 core. Also the etailers have stuck to the offical AMD MSRP and there has been no price increases, which is the exact opposite over nvidia and intel releases here. Oh the 6 core was still available about 10 hrs after launch too.
Don't buy from scalpers and wait for them to restock then you good
"Medic! We need a medic down here"
Think at this stage a priest would be more appropriate.
Intel needs an Uber at this point
I have a 2700X and as a coder and hardcore gamer, I don't even have workloads to overload my CPU and the new gen is 3 times faster than mine amazing stuff from AMD.
Lisa Su is somewhere right now tapping her fingers together like Mr. Burns saying, "Eeeeexcellent"
Just ordered the 5900x I'm grinning. Cos now I'll be going from Intel I7 5930k to this
Where?
May I ask how you managed to even find one? I'm pretty sure they're as rare as unicorns
Sold out everywhere now, good job
Going from a i7 4790k to the 5600x... so hyped
That is such a huge upgrade.
Managed to snag a 5900x before they sold out here :o
Stock at launch: 50 5600X, 50+ 5800X, 40 5900X, unknown 5950X
All sold out in sub 3 minutes.
*Edit, I should mention that I had put notifications on all the new CPUs. Not a single one landed in my inbox before they were sold out
Was searchi.g for it by name still couldn't find it only the r9 3900 came up
I can find the 5800x, seems to be decent stock here
@@ayethe4603 aw that sucks :( Have you found it yet? Sold out?
@@DukeLaze only ebay has them and not paying 200 to 500 upmark:/
@@ayethe4603 Aw, damn scalpers... :(
Remember, remember the fifth of November.
this day will go down in the cpu history books
@Warm Soft Kitty The month that AMD bunnyhopped both of its major competitors Nvidia and Intel in GPU and CPU performance/value not relevant? k.
V
@Warm Soft Kitty The salt, the salt is everywhere... I can taste it...
@Warm Soft Kitty You are giving me hypertension my dude, stop it.
Just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 1500X with an RX 580 to a 5950X with a 3080. Hella stoked for the night and day difference XD
And this is on the same 7 nm process and same motherboards. Imagine what AMD will be capable at when using 5 nm or 3 nm, with new motherboards... The future looks promising! 🤘🏻
"Cool, I'm building a new PC so I'll check stock"
**There is no stock**
"Here we go again..."
All the stores near me have it. Which is better than the Nvidia launch.
@@genericnpc08 Good for you. In my entire country Zen 3 CPUs are completely unavailable.
@@oneofmanyjames-es1643 We had zero 5900x's allocated per country. The other SKUs were available for a few minutes tough.
@@oneofmanyjames-es1643 it really depends by country. Just be patient.
It took me about 2 weeks of trying to get a 3950x after it launched.
Always pick GN's review for all the new launches first, that way you don't feel like you to watch any of the other ones!
Where's that "OOOOOFFF" pic when you need it?
RAGE MODE
This is what I've been waiting for! Thank you so much for providing us with so much useful data. Can't believe AMD is actually winning in single-threaded workloads!
You're one of the only people on RUclips who talks fast enough such that if I watch your vids at 1.75x it's too fast. 1.5x is the sweet spot!
So, this is like christmas time for customers, oh yep, the stock stuff xd
Need a Christmas miracle to get your hands on one of these...
Not really, they raised the price. And I assume these will also be out of stock for a long time.
Got a 5900x on b&h
More like Christmas shopping for next Christmas
I got the 5800X. it was instock for almost an hour. Not like Nvidia...
RIP Intel indeed... beating an overclocked 10900k by a fair margin. This gives me high hopes for a 5600x going toe-toe with 10700k. Scratch that... it even beats the 10900k in some applications. So glad I didn't upgrade this year yet.
In Linus Benchmarks the 5600x beat the 10900k in almost every game.
It won't be cheap as 3600x
It's got RDR2 going on for it...
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD who cares?
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD I think it's the same launch price. The 3600x is being discounted right now, but that's kinda expected.
6:25 That is great. More companies should market the typical and lower performance and not the maximum performance that you might get under ideal conditions.
Thanks for your efforts Steve! Regardless my not needing a dedicated workstation, I've ordered a 5950X and gaming is going to rock!!
Check this out, this totally new 5950X build is replacing my current "old" Intel i7 965 CPU build:) Night and day!!
That was a whirlwind! Very grateful you managed to get all that info into less than half an hour.
Going to buy 5800x, currently running a "phenom II x4 955"
You better have a seat belt for you gaming chair. That kind of performance jump might blow you clean out the seat if you don't :P
@@andersjjensen great comment, made my day.
I wish I could - still running a "Core i7-860" from 2009 :/
@@Beos_Valrah If you can get your mitts on a second hand B450 board and a Ryzen 1700 you have a sweet upgrade path in some years when Ryzen 5000 drops in price + it will give you a solid boost from what you already have.
Holy, I had a phenom 955 black edition. That thing ran hotter than the sun but it was my first build
Forgot this was launch day and was randomly looking at my favourite etailers when I see the 5000 series for sale and in stock! I was tempted to get one but thought I’d check if review embargos were lifted (which they are), went back to the store and bam, all gone. Oh well, I can drool for free I guess haha.
You are lucky to even see them in stock at all. The only thing I saw in stock, at multiple outlets, was the 5600X, and that didn't last long either.
I feel like it sucks though, to utilize a processor like the 5900x properly, you need their 6900XT, to get the performance needed to justify even buying the CPU lol.
@@Bannockburn111 who said that
@@TheGauges420 nope, he's not using an unreleased gpu on his testing here, you'll get even better performance when those GPU's do get released. This performance review is on current existing and buyable hardware.
@@michaelkeudel8770 I know he isnt. They arent released yet. But with this Rage Mode and smart access memory, we might be seeing some insane things coming from AMD. I'm actually legit excited about finally getting an AMD card for myself... I've only ever had a 2600x, then switched to a 3700x because I found it for $100, and my GPU was an MSI Duke RTX 2070 OC 8gb, and then 1 week before 3080 'launched' I snagged an MSI 2080ti Gaming X Trio for just $450 cash... but I want a 5800x/6800XT, but I may go 5900x just because I dont have a budget really, I have $1,500 I can spend, and I've already got all the storage I need, a B550 and an x570 (b550 is better tbh), I've got the case and PSU I need, all i have to get is a GPU/CPU and I'll be golden. Hopefully they'll be in stock soon.
Welp, looks like I'm getting an AMD system this fall. I was waiting for tests in case the 5000 series were terrible overclockers, as I run a few things that are _very_ clock frquency dependent, but with a stable 4.6 GHz OC Intel just doesn't have enough of an advantage for my use. So Intel, you served me well, but it's time to say good bye.
Oof
@Brandon S Get what you need boyo.
@Ivan MK He reminds me of one of those rich guys that owns everything 2nd hand shit to save a few pennies.
@Brandon S Good for you. ;)
OMG it’s my favorite sponsor! US is always dropping high quality product
Saw this CPU was on sale on Newegg yesterday for $434 (new). As a last push with AM4 I think this is a great value especially over my current 3700X. At least in gaming, the charts are showing about a 50% increase in the 1%/0.1% lows. Hoping it helps with Cities: Skylines 2 lol.
I switched from this CPU as well from the 3700X ive noticed how hotter this CPU runs! how is yours going so far?
@Applepro7 it has been pretty good. I've been using it to record with obs to offload from the gpu. So far no dropped frames. The Temps spike a bit, buy about the same. I'm cooling it with a 280mm AIO. I couldn't hit the benchmarks GN posted running stock (a few hundred points lower), but i was also doing those tests on a B450. I have a X570 now and haven't redone the tests.
motherboards matter? It does spike up randomly for sure i be at like 48 to 60 then random 70c. I do streaming so do you do the same? only use the CPU? I have a 7900xt not sure if i should do that as well. @@TheMet4lGod
@@Applepro7 I assumed the MB had some impact since B450 was PCIe 3 while everything on my system was PCIe 4.
Sat here staring at my 4770K, I'm still pretty content with it since I don't usually play the latest games. I don't really need the upgrade but man... someone needs to hide my wallet.
Upgraded to a 3700X and a X570 board this year, had a 4770k before hand myself. i did it since i can always just upgrade the cpu later :D.
still stuck with a 4790k. The upgrade is getting stronger but then again I only use my PC for word, emails, League of legends and valorant. Not really a reason for an upgrade lol.
@@vagabondht5791 I went from a 3770K to the x570 64GB 3600 memory and the 3700X, these new 5-series is the plan for the final upgrade in a couple of years. Waiting for an 3080 Tuf OC.... and maybe an AMD GPU might be a way to go too when this is getting old? I have a PCIe 4.0 already, but one warning, don't fill the Corsair MP600 more than 50% writespeed drops like it's choking down from 4000 Mb/sec to 1500 at 61%, and before I cleaned it up a bit, having 81% filled dropped it to 500Mb/sec. MSFS2020 takes it's toll...
@@Bratfalken you should have buy samsung version instead corsair, since they almost at same price
I owned a 4770k ... Thinking of turning it into a FreeNAS box. Anyway for work stuff my jump to a 9900k was noticable. Sure boot times are similar but it will show its age if you are not careful. Mad dogs, rd2, Adobe premiere, or virtualization will make it beg for mercy
Take a shot for every time Steve says "Fiftyninefifty-X"
rekt'd my liver
Is that not how you're supposed to say it
ran out of bullets
2017:
Ryzen 7 1700 - 8c/16t - 350
I7 7700k - 4c/8t - 350
2020:
Ryzen 7 5800X - 8c/16t - 449
I9 10850K - 10c/20t - 450
We are evolving just backwards.
Holy... I hadn't thought about it that way
Ryzen 7 1800X was $500 in 2017
@@darcrequiem he used the 1700; technically it launched at 330, but who's counting?
I'd say it's balanced out by the use of the 10850k. And since there's no 5700x (yet), the 5800x stands.
Yeah In the lioness's test bench all of the intel 10th gen were running at tdp limited power... So if you watch hardware unboxed 9900k review limiting the tdp is still the 9900k but like 10% slower at timess... Im not an intel fanboy im loyal to my money... And i believe 450 for 8 cores is kinda odd the price tag is like 50 bucks higher than last gen...
@@kintustis yeah i think that also but like if intel cuts 10850k prices... That would be a deal.
I'm glad this cpu was released before I started building my first PC. definitely switching to AMD
When reviewers pity you, that's when you know you literally hit rock bottom
AMD triple CROWN:
- Best gaming CPU.
- Best GPU.
- 2 of the best consoles.
In-slot product comparisons based on MSRP, which is what 3rd party reviewers will do, is effectively irrelevant for this generation of GPUs, or at least the relevant lifespan of said reviews. It's going to come down to who has the greater supply and/or if you really want to pay a premium to get a card from the secondary market.
Worst drivers though
@@robw7381 aren’t their drivers fixed now
@@Th31nOnly hahah, what a joke ... just sold a 5700 xt because of crappy drivers with issues in tons of games and wonky performance ..
@@Th31nOnly Better than they were but not fixed. Some issues still remain but there ok. Just not as solid as nvidia drivers.
Steve "we are forced to add Intel on the graph's as there is no real competition now" also Steve whilst saying this eye's tearing up because Intel is truly dead ... Lisa Su promised AMD great things and she delivered ... Team Red are gonna win for a long while ... and when the new Radeon cards come out Nvidia are gonna share Intels pain ... this video brought me such joy
Let's go! I've been waiting years for AMD to take the crown!
Same!
The most impressive thing about all of this is how you got that cat to knock that glass over perfectly on the bar mat.
Was able to finally get my mitts on a 5950X about a month ago...it's fast...stupid fast...thank you AMD for this insanity in a mainstream desktop. There's nothing that my PC can't do now...just takes in the work, chews on it rapidly and spits it out done.
Last time I was this early I got a 3080
absolute madlad
Quit lying
I'm sorry
does that mean that you aren't here? lol
Yeap, I'm perfectly content with my 3700x.
I got a cheap 8700K and Z370 combo to upgrade from my 6600K
Me too, specially because I'm still on X370 and it's doing just fine. Gaming, Folding and Solidworks Simulations. I'm more interested in the GPUs tbh.
But AMD really did something amazing with Zen3! Bravo!
@@jpfidalgo7 in your case. Definitely stick with it. Upgrading to 5000 series with x570 in a year or so when prices are cheaper might even make sense or waiting patiently two more years for the new gen with ddr5 stabilizing.
@@Sunny-mz3xr it's probably what i'm gonna do. The only option I see is just to upgrade for a used 3900X in a year or so. Even if the Mobo dies, I would just replace it with X570 and stay with the rest, because the Vega56 is what is showing it's age in 1440p. Even in the games I play it goes more head to head with GTX1080 or 2060, some of the driver issues are making me think about the 3070 in the next year...
I'm too. Until I can get a 5950x for a reasonable price :)
Hum, and I thought your videos only got released at like 3 in the morning. =P
Just ordered one of these! Can't wait.
I'm very impressed with that stock power-to-performance ratio!
When Steve makes a claim like that in the thumbnail you know it’s good
I love that Intel is getting their asses handed to them. I look forward to AMD doing the same to NVIDIA in the years to come. Lisa Su is a genius!
Now the courses have reversed :c
This is the real Blue vs Red I was waiting for. Kudos Steve for an excellent job like you always do!
BTW, great review Steve+Gamers´ Nexus team. Super thorough and easy to understand.
@Gamers Nexus I am just now realizing that Steve said over the next 24hrs the videos will be out, so the next two will come out tomorrow/technically later today. Thank you for the in depth videos. I am thinking about getting one of the bar mats to put on my wall.
Linus told me to remember this day...
Steve: "Nobody bought the X versions of the AMD 3600"
Me with a 3600x: I mean nothing
3800X here: it do be like that.
was it worth it?
It's okay, remember nobody is perfect. So if you are a nobody, just saying...
I bought one also, just because it was on sale for the same price as a regular 3600 🤣
i already bouht an 3600x, cuz in my country the 3600 was more expensive hahahah
1:31 is the most adorable marketing I’ve seen all year.
Steve, also because of your review I got myself a 5950X, and I'm SUPER happy with it. :-)
Gaming and Studio One is like a breeze, I'm glad I could also see your review before I decided to get myself one.
Got my order in today. Very Excite!
"Impressive, most impressive."
Steve: "spillproof"
Snowflake: *challenge accepted*
1:32
5 November, also known as "The day Core i-series turned into Core ayayay.. Intel.."
Just wait for 11 gen intel
Which reminds me of my favorite movie, Daddy day core.
@@emilxert there is always something better around the corner, I am talking about performance right now though.
Rocket lake will be lit af🔥🔥🚀
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@@lavisak lol the power consumption on 10900k in these benchmarks is close to 300 watts and amd pulling 80-120
Brilliant advertising for the spill proof bar runner with the cat. I love it 😂
What is missing from this chart is TR 1950X, as that was 16C offer from AMD some time ago, and many might be thinking if upgrading to 5950X is worth it.
If you're upgrading to a 5950x you're also losing 60 PCIe gen 3 lanes for 24 Gen 4 lanes. Bitter pill to swallow.
This is seriously impressive. Great job AMD, keep bringing the heat.
"This video is brought to you by...us"
This is so refreshing.
21:50
Holy shit. It beats Intel in both performance and efficiency.
Oh boy oh boy :) so excited for the following reviews. As always so many things I didn't understand, but worth for those I did :)
Love this guys detail review but they can be crazy long feel like I am back in collage on a math module. Thank god for the summary.
They all sold out in 1 minute here in Sweden. One of the biggest computer parts retailers had only 6 5950X at launch for the entire country. Not sure about the other retailers because they all sold out before I could see.
Proshop still has plenty of stock.
The US probably had like 5000. But that's just some guy's estimate
I’ve moved on from my abusive relationship with Intel. I look forward to being subjugated by AMD, what can I say, I have a “type”.
Okay then.
O..K...
I only can listen to you at 0.75x speed, more than that my brain go to coma
I'm still on an i7 4790K and I placed an order for the 5950X for its ability to game and to support my heavier multi core workloads better than my current system (which has only 4 cores, 8 threads).
Looking forward to some mad gains!
I've been trying to place an order on the 5950x for a week. What's your secret?