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@@mrclassyturtle843 What no Why would they compare it again something that costs that much!! Here is something from intel that will get you nearly the same performance at ridiculous x the price
And a Steve 30 minute review contains at least as much content as a 60 minute review from anywhere else. RUclips needs to introduce a playback half speed feature!
@@EpicGamingEct Lmao, you work for userbenchmark don't you? Intel won't ever hit 6ghz without using liquid nitrogen, no one will, especially not on a smaller node. Don't be daft.
had my 5900x since 2021 and its still such a beast of a cpu. Only thing i upgraded was my 3070 to a 7900xt recently. I dont plan on upgrading until am6 if im being honest
For the record I'm glad you guys do these videos. 2 years later, I finally have extra money to upgrade my 3600x for use of my unraid server. And with the price of the 5900x being 320 bucks today, I think this is a great upgrade.
264 on Amazon right now I have a 3600x too. For a few years now I have run every game perfectly until recently with helldivers 2 which runs at 40-50 fps and crashes occasionally and pacific drive which runs at 40-50 fps and crashes frequently.
chiming in late here - also just upgraded from 3600, the 5900x was a bargain and the performance gain is nuts. "future proofing" back in 2020 was actually worth it..?
@Adithya R that's a half an hour longer then NVIDIAs stock. One thing I'll say is you gotta remember this is the year of corona virus. Manufacturing countries were shut completely down for months. You kinda have to expect this. Sucks, but it is what it is
Seeing as I literally can't stand Intel due to their anti consumer, anti competitive bullshit they've pulled towards amd in the past it is so satisfying to see amd demolishing Intel.
@@Josh-cw8by and you think that is anywhere near as bad as the shit Intel has pulled over the previous few decades, your having a bloody laugh if you do!
@@Josh-cw8by it's also got fuck all to do with fanboyism. Suggest you go watch the excellent video Jim did over at adored tv about Intel, anti-consumer, anti-competitive, anti-technology, what a bloody eye opener that video was & THAT is why I can't stand Intel. People like you really should think before you throw about the fanboyism argument.
@@Josh-cw8by Intel doesn't innovate or improve. They chose to stagnate because they used to be in the lead. And they dont deserve my money because of that. Bye bye intel and hello amd with that new set piece bonus with their gpu+cpu.
@@Josh-cw8by lmao yea but benchmarks don't lie, even if it's marketing was a mistake everyone who bought them knew what it's performance was And you forget just 2 years ago Intel's prices were literally doubled. You think they are so pro-consumer from the goodness of their hearts that they suddenly halved the prices?? No it's was because there was no competitor they didn't give a fuck on what they charged their consumer because consumers didn't have a choice.
@@Josh-cw8by AMD users aren't fanboys. We're anti-fanboys. Always got someone in my ear telling me how Intel is better, and I don't care. Thankfully that's over for a while. I had Bulldozer CPU's and they all had the correct core counts, so I'd probably sue, too, if someone was trying to defame my billion dollar industry.
@Emily Thomson haha. Do you work for NVidia? Had no issues. Ordered from CCL at 2pm delivery tomorrow. Scan and Overclockers all had stock for an hour or so as far as I could see. I don't think there will be anywhere near the problems as with cards and we will see substantial stock over the next few weeks. A small nasty part of me is tempted to flip it for £1k and wait for more stock as my 3700x is doing a fine job.
Am I'm going insane? The I'm seem to still be just as good as the 5900x in the graphs? Why do people say intel got crushed? Ofc there is a more expensive cpu on amds side that is the new best but that one isn't competing with the 10900k. Great batch of cpus from amd, no question about that though.
@@informitas0117 Because in productivity, the 5900x not only smashes the 10900k in everything now (even the Adobe suite), but also in gaming, where the 5900x is a few percent faster than the 10900k, save for RDR2. So price-to-price, either for gaming or productivity, 5900x is the better buy, thus killing any value or sentiment in buying the 10900k.
No idea why intel would releass another 14nm cpu . It isnt even out yet and its on a dead platform already next year new sockets for all brands ddr5 pcie 5 maybe . And for what to reclaim or match a 1080p gaming crown . No one owning a 10900k or 10700k or 5900x or even 3800x plays at 1080p . Why pay so much if you cant display the eye candy ? Only a competitive player in a lan enviroment would benefit . If ur gaming at home you have ping latency anyway lag comp. And so on .
@Watchdog so ur buying all that gear at that price to stare at pixels on a 1080p monitor ?i'm sure it's gonna look pixeled and butter smooth when u get killed by a camper or a claymore . and even if ur the best gamer in the world I guarantee you will get the same score on a 240hz mon.
@@ulftnightwolf LTT made a video with literally pro players proving that high refresh rate improve your score. If you game to compete refreshe rate is 1000% more important than resolution, hence why pros uses 4:3 aspect ratio and shity resolutions to have high fps constantly.
I love that AMD is finally, once again, embarrassing Intel into stepping up their game. I don't care who makes a CPU, I just want the best value for dollar.
facts I always compare intel to Apple and AMD to Android. you get more features with better quality at a much better price depending on the phone you buy.
Thank goodness Lisa Su was hired on. Because AMD was going bankrupt before. She saved the industry. By not only giving customers what they want, but also forcing Intel to step up.
I got the 5900x for $300 US over the holidays and oml this thing is just the best. Boosted my FPS significantly over a 2700x when paired with 1080. Easily overclocked to 4.7. Even 1 year later, unless you are waiting for the next line of Ryzen with probably a new socket, you should get this processor if you are looking for something right now.
Tried to get a 5900x this morning but in Canada our largest computer retailer had around five stores with a single 5900x each across the 35 stores in the entire country.
I’m excited to see the value of the 5800x, I pre ordered it on B&H and I’d like to have something to be excited about when it arrives for Christmas next year
Yeah. I think everyone already acknowledged that 5800x and 5600x are going to be the best CPUs for gaming... Yet most of the reviewers chose to review top part CPUs like 5900x and 5950x which are completely irrelevant for gamer folks... 5950x is 30 percent faster in v ray... yada yada... in monkey head render test... yada yada ... 7 zip compression yada yada yada... Lol dude like we already knew it would be faster in production work benchmarks, who the f k cares... Professionals and production workers would just buy higher core count anyway, this is absolutely pointless and a waste of time... Just show us benchmarks for games for 5600x 5800x and 5900x . This is the most crucial part of the information that absolutely majority of reviewers seem not to get... For me personally trying to decide between 5600X and 5800X ,will probably go for 5800X ... And seeing that the majority of reviewers focused on the higher end skews is extremely frustrating, since no gamer should be buying them anyway... Still waiting for GN 5800X review ,seems like I will be getting it for gaming.
3 years later, thank you for making this review. It is still relevant, upgrading gpu and realizing I do want to upgrade my cpu. Thank you for your excellent and detailed reviews.
I really hope Intel makes an "AMD killer" by 2022 not because i am a Blue fanboi but i don't want to see a reversal of the last 10 years. Rather I want to see a race with each team trading the lead to give the market the best consumer advantages.
Thank you. Someone with a brain. The idea of AMD being dominant for a long term and still having our best interest at heart is ludicrous. We need these manufacturers to duke it out as long as possible.
Same, as we've heard intel got complacent. But they have the resources to make a chip that can compete with amd, I hope they just step up their game and get their stuff together.
I believe it will happen this competition in all areas AMD seems to be producing is only good for everyone. Intel is a sleeping giant and it’s just waking up. Give it a few years and it should leap again. What a time to be alive !
@@davecolwell725 exactly, it's not like they're some little company they have the capability they just need to execute. If not looks like my next pc will be an amd.
bought a 5900x second hand for ~ $215. New they cost around $318 in my country (RO). For productivity, in my opinion, this processor is best buy right now, even new. It's nice to see that it can also handle games really well.
@@alshahriar6230 if ur a competitive esports player in a lan environment sure have at it , if u play over the internet lots of other latency issues so your screen can refresh as fast as it likes only still dependent on your connection.also 1080p fov is more narrow than say 1440p fov . so u lose peri vision. see I'm all for smoothness but even if it's an esports title playing at home better at high ress.1440p for example these days are quite up there as well , graph. cards today can manage 165 fps/hz easy . and trust me the amount of players in the world that can benefit fully from that refresh difference probably fit on one hand.
After today I'm officially making the switch! Can not justify sticking with INTEL, which I've had 100% of the time! It's time folks. Prove me wrong Intel....I dare you!
Unfortunately, Intel do not care about Desktop anymore. But their asses are still getting kicked on the WAY MORE profitable server market, wich is a bit more worrying about their future on the x86 market.
@@Josh-cw8by If your a content creator, work with a lot of production workloads, or an extremely competitive gamer (pro scene), then its entirety realistic to make the leap. Those who were holding off on Zen 2 because of gaming performance now have their answer.
Super excited to run this with my 4060 and 32gb ram. I managed to snag one new in box for $300 just a few days ago. Upgrading from a 3050 and R7 1800x so hoping to see a big boost.
Up until now, AMD is the good choice for overall performance, while intel takes the gaming crown.. This is what happens when you sleep intel. I game so I went intel, but even before this one, if i were to build one I will go AMD. And with this release, for sure its AMD. I have intel..but damn good job amd, thank you
Didnt matter when it was just 3000 series . Who buys a 10900k or 5900x or even 3800x for 1080p gaming ? A few hundred competitive players and thats about it . 1440p and up gpu has been and is bottleneck . Glad amd took the gaming crown maybe now the fanboys will finally read something more than just brand marketing material .
Yeah, this is a really great for competition and of course for us customers! I really like that jump in power efficiency or performance per watt uplift.
@@ulftnightwolf pc tech reviewers: games will use more cores and threads in the future. and dual monitor setups and multitasking will be better on amd 5000. intel 10th gen is bad value amd does everything better. i only know what i hear.
@@hgr3180 I already made the switch running 3800x as primary pc now btw if ur interested the cpu is for sale ;-) and running dual monitors on all my setups . always use a high refresh rate tn panel as primary and color accurate ips as secondary .same setup (tn and ips ) on both systems.and one system in the garage ( old only used with remote desktop so no peripherals attached )
@@ulftnightwolf im using 3600 right now in my build. who knows what ill do with that cpu. i could return it and throw in an older cpu i have and upgrade to a 5900x.
A suggestion for future content: Maybe you could choose the axis end values and number of splits so they would result at splits at even 100, 50, 25, etc.? It's really hard to decipher the graphs when the y axis has values like 4913, 4975 and 5048 (from splitting the delta of 500 from 4600 to 5100 in 8 parts), instead of 4900, 4950, 5000, 5050 (from splitting delta of 500 in 10 parts). Having only the even 100s listed, but additional splits at 50 in between (without values) would be ideal to avoid clutter.
To add on the bandwagon of criticism... They didn't include competitive games on the charts which many millions of gamers live by ... Perhaps it is not important to including MOBA like games, but FPS style competitive games where higher frame rates count are important, and specifically CS:GO ... Which apparently AMD has got the biggest lead at there up to %50 IPC uplift according to some reviewers ,unfortunately all of the bigger reviewers completely skipped it including GN (which infuriates me)... This is absolutely a huge deal, and will mean that in the long term, millions of dollars and sponsorships will be moving towards AMD ... as well as millions of gamers that are trying to get the competitive advantage in competitive games will be switching to AMD also... This is a much bigger deal than getting a few more or less frames on a seasonal game like RDR2 for example...
@@ZuppaD.Cipolle I do. Average FPS on the 10900k and RTX 3080 is between 300 and 360 ,then there's such thing as 0.1fps lows for when you get frame dips, which are as important for smoother gameplay as just higher frames. Monitor manufacturers will not go into higher Hertz unless they see a niche in the market...So we need games to start hitting those frames to get higher refresh rate monitors...It's been suggested by blurbusters that 1k hz is the ideal sweet spot for motion clarity, beyond that, it still improves it but will be getting diminishing returns ... So 1k FPS and no dips in FPS is the target that we should be aiming at for competitive games.
@@kainhall What? I can not only read the graphs, but also do simple (and some more advanced) maths. My complaint was the unnecessary convolution of having to do mental gymnastics; why do I need to calculate the values, when better graphs would show them at a glance?
Actually, it's like 20-30 better min fps, that's like 30% better min framerate on the 10900K, you have to give Intel the respect they deserve, they are literally competing with AMD's newest and greatest with their old ass 14nm++++++++ tech and somehow they even manage to beat them in a few games.
@@AdiiS nm is only about power efficiency. Intel also has 10nm and using it for more than a year in laptops but there is a reason even their 11th gen desktop Rocket lake is still 14nm. Remember AMD is using TSMC 7nm that was originally designed for arm smartphone chips (Apple and Huawei were the first customers of 7nm TSMC).
Damn. Steve got all four. I managed to get a 5800x today. I’m happy af!! 🙌🙌 got off work this morning 7:30 am and drove 89 miles at 90/95 mph to wait in line for 2hrs lol. I got it tho. Worth it! Lol
Same. I love in Indianapolis and drove to Cincinnati Ohio to microcenter and i got there a little late. 20 minutes till opening. But i was still able to snag a 5800x . I feel like i got lucky, 5 minutes later after i got there. There was 50-75 more people that arrived and half of them left when microcenter said they had limited stock. They passed out waivers for the cpus and i was able to get one
5yrs later, I dropped a $350 5900x CPU in the X370 motherboard I bought in 2017, replacing the 1700x that I started with. Huge upgrade for next to nothing :)
i got this deal too for the 5900x, still in the process of gathering parts for the build. (had an i5 7600k before) very excited for the build to be complete.
Will be very interesting to see these benchmarks again once the rx 6000 series release so we can see how big off a difference the smart access memory does!
@@Eliranu I'm not exactly sure yet as I think I'm going to read all the reviews for all processors and see which one would be most beneficial. Yes I'd be gaming but I've started to use Blender, Zbrush and Maya so it maybe that the 5900X or the 5800X will be the way to go for me personally. The £250 I'd save would go towards a GPU. The GPU may be a 6900XT or an RTX3090 as I can use the extra memory for rendering especially in Blender, yet have the extra horsepower for great framerates in games. Depending on the performance of the 6800, 6800XT or 6900XT, then they still may be the better option depending on how they compare to the 3090 (rendering workloads, raytracing etc). It will be one of those, just going to wait for team reds performance charts before taking the plunge. How about yourself?
@@Kobra31677 you priced that in pounds so I'm assuming your in the UK. The 10900KF in UK is £20 more than 5800X, and has 2 more cores. Price to performance it beats the 5800x if your doing gaming and multithreaded workloads
Just dropping in again to say that I'm continuously thrilled with your brutal honesty with your methodology, chart interpretations, vendor impartiality and general cutting-through-the-crap. I love your stuff and it's where I turn to for analysis I can trust. You guys are putting in a lot of hard work and long hours - I know how that feels. I want to say thank you for this content. You guys are legends.
Ordered my 5900x at launch from B&H Photo Video, got it yesterday. Worth the wait! From my i7-7700k at 5Ghz to a 5900x with three times the Cores/Threads at 4.7Ghz using marginally more power. I've been CPU bound in so many games and applications as of late even running a modest GTTX1660ti.
Nice that's good to hear, it's alo absolute bs aswell theres people who have paid and orderd a 5900x in UK and rest of Europe since nov 5th launch day yet we were still waiting, March 16th 2021 fuck you AMD spastic ***
Loving how strong the 5000 chips are looking. I am probably not going to upgrade to them from my 3600 just yet, but having a option to go to the 39xX/59xX chips later, possibly when zen4 launches and zen2/3 prices drop.
I'll be buying one of these later. I caught a 5600X on launch day at 6:10am PT on Newegg for $299, can't wait for the review later today. Half the cache makes me nervous but I bet it's going to be a great little chip for gaming. GREAT job on the coverage today.
@@parabelluminvicta8380 Well the 3900X and 5900X have twice as much cache as a 5600X. That can impact performance a lot even in single threaded. More cache is almost always better and there is no such thing as "enough". In Zen 3, the "split cache" seems to not be a performance hit. But I think the 32MB chips will be pretty good despite half the cache.
STEVE!!! Don't stay up too late working on these benchmarks! Don't drink those energy drinks either! You need to stay healthy in your young age so you can keep up this stellar f'en work
Isnt timing more important for zen? "not as fast" ram with good timing should be good comparable or maybe better even. I suppose we learn when they test it later
@@gchatz6480 I remember GN made a video about it, there's a sweet spot I think it was like cl16 3800Mhz, so I guess they'll do the same test for these one eventually
The 5900x can be had for under $450 right now from Amazon, or from Newegg (with a promo code). Think I'm about to jump on it. This is why I normally wait for about a year instead of buying right after release. Upgrading from 2700x, which I also bought about a year late, so should be a pretty noticeable difference. Then I'll just have to save for a year so I can turn my attention to replacing the 5700XT...
Intel is just trying to keep up with AMD at this point, not even thinking about passing. Just wait till AMD shifts into 5th gear with ZEN 4 in a year or so. 😂
@M Smithy these are hot products at lunch, and yes regular people are not able to buy them unless they are very lucky and fast. After the hype will be over and they replenish the stock, you'll be able to get one. 👊😀
If increased performance justified increased prices every generation, then modern processors would cost over $160,000. Because, modern parts perform at least that much better than an i486 from 1989.
It's not really the inherent performance increase gen over gen, it's more the performance increase against the competition. If your opponent is selling their gear at a certain price, and you're matching or slightly beating them in one of the two main arenas, and significantly beating them in the other, going a bit over them in pricing is expected. The 3000-series just didn't have the gaming performance of Intel, so they were more careful, while still justifying equal cost with way better multitasking and productivity performance. Now you're not losing on any front by going AMD. And if you want to match 10900K performance wise in both gaming and productivity, it seems the 5800X is right there, and is significantly cheaper. =)
@@senectarius9685 Comparing the $50 price hike to what Nvidia did with graphics cards, AMD is still an angel. Also worth pointing out, that a lot of AMD users are already on 400 or 500 series boards, they have no additional expenses aside from the CPU, so for those users the CPU price hike is easier to swallow as it's the only component they need to replace. And the non X chips will be with us soon, which will be priced lower, and I'm pretty sure AMD will release 5000 series APUs for consumers this time around which will be lower priced too.
Super fast tap to watch before the pop up notification even disappeared on me phone (also first lol, actually legit first post now I am the useless first poster)
@@GamersNexus so glad I have my friend pre buying my pc, 3800x, 32gb (can only run at 2933 due to the motherboard) Asus x370 prime pro, 1tb ssd (Toshiba xg3) at least this will pay approx £1000 towards a 5800x system I had a 1800x installed originally(it wasn't the best cpu as I had to all core turbo overclock to 3.8ghz to just get rid of the hitching/stuttering hard to explain over text) , still actually own it and it's inside the plastic tray the 3800x came in, it's worth less then £100 now lol, amd cpus really don't hold their money, but any Intel cpu with the word i7 in it is model are over £150-300 (it can be a 8th gen cpu or a 2nd gen all super overpriced) This will be my 5 year pc this time (wait for the dust to settle to find out best optimal motherboard for cpu and ram) 5800x, x570 motherboard (already own 2x16gb g.skill neo 3600 cl16 kit) 2tb SSD, unsure in gpu yet case, corsair 750w psu probably and maybe a 4TB hdd for system image backup (but I have 2 nas main and pull rsync backup nas so might not bother with local backup storage) I see a lot of content creators who only rely on one local Nas be Raid5 sometimes RAID6 and at least 2 youtubers who have gotten them self's stuck or angry at said nas company (when it was there fault for not having a second unit to backup the first one) when it failed or pool crashed and lost a lot of stuff, sometimes when I try to explain to people raid is not a backup all they hear is it can survive 1 or 2 disks failure so its a backup lol
@@GamersNexus Not sure if it's an issue with my settings or the way amazon does links but your link and directly searching on amazon does not net the pages for the 5000 series chips. Pauls hardware links however do work even if they are out of stock anyway.
I literally just dropped this chip into my mobo the other day. It's a MSI 370x SLI plus mobo that supports the chip via bios update... I am super happy with it so far. Hoping this video doesn't kill my high lol. Got that out of the way in the beginning. Now I will play the video. And another couple caveats. I got it on sale for sub 300 dollars on sale at time of this comment, despite it being more expensive default retail. So that may help.
stock seems pretty bad.. headed to the store as everything is in-store pick-up and they were sold out before I got there :/ with no pre-orders or anything I guess I should have lined up but everyone was saying stock should be good.
I saw a lot of stock for the 5600 and 5800 but the Ryzen 9's were almost non-existent. The majority of stores in Canada had no units at all, and if they had any they had a single CPU.
I bought one and got info about delivery by 10-16.11.2020. Few minutes later it updated to 20-30.12. So stocks are definitely NOT good. We will see if they are worse than nvidia's
@@bassexbn3 yes should have known better. for record I was speaking of reviews like hardwareunboxed etc who had been asked in Q&A.. perhaps stock is better in some places than others
So impressive how the managed to do all this and keep power down. I hope to look back on this comment in 10 years and laugh at how advanced i through this was.
Thanks for your work Steve and everyone at Gamers Nexus. Your channel is always the first I go to! Awesome work. Also: as a Aussie citizen, really happy to see the T-shirt!
I remember hearing a year or two ago about how Sunny Cove was going to have 18% IPC uplift. AMD has released two generations in that time, each with similar gains. I'm seriously starting to feel worried about how certain people currently at Intel will feed their families this time next year.
25:30 The problem is that its totaly not worth the 100 bucks between the 5800x and 5900x. 450 or 550 dollar for the extra 100 you get basically 50% more cores. The 5800x need a lot better pricing or they need to throw in a 5700x.
That's where I'm at. Everyones saying that intel is dead... and while I kind of agree on the high-range... once you get to the 5800x and 5600x, I really don't think it is as clear, at least in gaming.. (though I'm waiting to see the GN 5600x benchmarks). But for example, in RDR2: A stock 10700k actually beats an overclocked 5900x, and a stock 10600k beats a stock 5900x. Both in max FPS, but much more significantly in 1% and 0.1% lows. The 5900x wins in all of the other games compared to a 10700k... but not by much, and consider that the 5900x is 45% more expensive. The 5800x is 18% more expensive, and from the other benchmarks I've seen on other channels/sites, I don't think it performs 18% better. Now to what you said... if they had a 5700x, and it was similar to how the 3700 stacked up against the 3800... now we're talking about pretty insane value IMO. You'd be arguably getting the same performance as the 5800 in gaming... at quite a bit less.
Speaking of something Semi, their reported earnings from Semi Custom SoC solution of the currently awaited consoles is, huh not a joke too lol, but well AMD's the large one in the console SoC department so... Also I can't imagine i'd get a very engaging gaming system with 1TB SSD (because boi it's one of those good stuffs too other than the console's SoC performance) in a Xbox Series X or PS5 for a price of less than the 3950X's at release back then, just nice, big NICE. RDNA and Zen really working out for the rest of the x86 tech industry On the PC side, the way Intel had the upper hand IPC against Zen 2 with a heckin (still) 14nm process, that's a tough one from Intel, now as we all have seen AMD's another 7nm process move, finally AMD got the lead over Intel's tough 14nm process, but hey that 14nm toughness was pretty hot, talking about 5900X (or 3900X comparably back then) against 10900K in temps
@@Cptkiller2010 hiccups? i bought a msi x570 tomahawk and im about to buy the 5900x was just hoping there is no probs i was reading alot had problems thx
@@gregt1592 I had some system freezes, couldn't figure out what it was, no error codes or anything. But after a bios update (gigabyte b550 vision d) its been smooth sailing since then. Heard some B550s had some early troubles with the 5000 series.
Yeah, I was kinda locked in on the 5900x even tho I only game but want to be a bit "future proof", now Steve says 5600x would be a better choice in the 5900x review but there is no 5600x review yet, waah!
@@n3rdy11 Don't buy more cores for gaming. 5900/5950X are only slightly better because they boost slightly higher, the increase in core count is largely irrelevant for gaming. You'd be better off saving the change for your next upgrade rather than spending extra on something that hardly nets any gains, if any. Futureproofing performance is a lost cause. Only thing you can really "futureproof" is reliability and longevity. Buy a quality PSU now and it might last you a couple builds, same thing with a good case. A good cooler might also serve you well for a long time, especially air coolers since they have no moving parts other than the fans that are replaceable. You get the idea.
@@SaltyMaud As much as I appreciate the sentiment: Thanks, but no thanks. I've been building rigs for over two decades, my last CPU choice lasted me a decade, the one before that half a decade. I'm not buying the 5900x for the cores, that's just a nice extra to get triple what I currently have, but mostly for the extra L3 cache, which can be _very_ performance relevant particularly in gaming. The extra cores will only become relevant in the coming years as games will be more optimized for them due to the PS5/Xbox. _"A good cooler might also serve you well for a long time, especially air coolers since they have no moving parts other than the fans that are replaceable."_ My current 360 custom loop has been running for close to a decade, never had to replace a single thing except for fluid. Even if the pump would break, I could simply replace it. You know, kinda like with a fan, turns out that actually works with most parts of a PC ;)
@@n3rdy11 What extra L3 cache? The 5800X has 38 MB per CCX, and the 5900X has 35 MB per CCX. Yes, the 5900X has 70 MB total, because it has 2 CCX, but those don't sum up since cores can only access the cache of their CCX (this means most data is just duplicated in each CCX's L3 cache. It's actually similar to how VRAM works in SLI setups: you don't get double VRAM, most data is duplicated in the 2 cards). [edit: actually both have 32 MB of L3 cache per CCX, so they're the same. It's only L2 that differs, since that's per core - still the same amount of L2 per core] In workloads where threads are more independent of each other, so the cache of each CCX will actually have different data (as long as threads are not moved between CCXs), then the extra cache will be beneficial. But for games this is not the case.
I understand info is limited but I was wondering when can we expect restocks of Cpus? I tried to get one this morning even waking up an hour in advance but i had no luck.
This is what I get for listening to tech people saying the 5000 series wouldn't be that much of a jump over the 3000. So much for this 3900X. Now I just feel like I jumped the gun somehow. I mean I adore it, but I can't help but feel like waiting just half a year more would have been a big help.
I don't care if this comment gets "likes" or not, but Steve could you imagine that Intel is like "well...atleast the 10900k performs better than the new AMD 5000 CPU's in Red Dead Redemption 2. So..there!". It's almost absurd, really. That title is really the only "saving grace". I am BLOWN AWAY by these new AMD Cpu's, but in the back of my mind, as a Ryzen Cpu owner (and "fan") I am not surprised! This is awesome, incredible to finally see. Thank you...and all top Tech RUclips channels providing these benchmarks.
@@rossharper1983 What retailers are you talking about. I've been checking all of the top US online retailers constantly and 5900x and 5950x went instantly out-of-stock at 9:30 EST this morning and have been ever since.
Central Europe here 😎 That´s a little bit far to the east from UK. Besides, next batch will come next week and i´d still rather wait til stock stabilization. It´s just month before Christmas. Also put new consoles and new AMD GPUs in and you´ll get a result of really crazy hectic Christmas with everything out of stock. The demand might raise prices to insane heights. Besides, i think i´d rather go for the GPU next year. My R5 3600 might be a potato sample (early batch, bought a month after release), but still enough for my rig.
Your Power Consumption charts seem to be showing and average of instantaneous power consumption. This isn't really relative to anything except power-supply sizing. Wouldn't it be much more useful to compare 'Watt-Hours' per test/suite completed? This would account for difference in thread counts, which would allow the consumer to compare actual computational power to watt-hours consumed for various core count processors. Thank you for your consideration.
running 2 blenders one in CPU going forward and one in GPU going backwards!! wow I'm surprised I never thought of that. Granted blender is a nightmare on my i7-2600 + geforce 780. I can't wait to get my 5900x and 3090.
I'm pretty sure some people WANT a monopoly and would be happy paying insanely inflated prices just so long as their favorite corporate overlord keeps showering them with new monopoly themed t-shirts and mousepads.
GN i can not express how much i appreciate the timestamps. Sometimes im at work and cant watch the full vid until later,and the timestamps get my quick fix.
Holy crap, a $100 Linode credit?! Man, I missed out when I created my account a few months ago and only got $20... $100 would keep my dinky server going for a looooong time on credit alone.
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Why no Star Citizen?
Star Citizen is the ultimate CPU benchmark!!
you guys should compare it to the 10980 xe to be fair to intel
release all videos so I can listen to how awesome my 5800x is going to be!
@@mrclassyturtle843
What no
Why would they compare it again something that costs that much!!
Here is something from intel that will get you nearly the same performance at ridiculous x the price
wait you did im stupid lol
First thumbnail: bullet holes and "RIP"
Second thumbnail: Blood and "bloodbath"
I like where this is going
Just imagine the old Quake sound effects!
@@GamersNexus oooh a quake 1 fan
@@GamersNexus I'd love hearing the Halo announcer narrating the charts
"Killtacular
!"
*"Kill Frenzy
!"*
*_"Killtrocity
!"_*
@@Carboxylated more like by its inept greedy leadership
@@brianchez6359 Not sure if Quake but
“M-M-M-MONSTER KILL!”
Other tech youtubers: cover 4 CPUs in 15 minutes
Steve: releases a 30 minute review for each CPU
Keep up the good work!
And a Steve 30 minute review contains at least as much content as a 60 minute review from anywhere else. RUclips needs to introduce a playback half speed feature!
@@guycoder You can already play videos at fractions of speed?
Yeah, but Steve's style isn't for everybody. So it's good that there's a variety of options to view.
@@Zosu22 Ah - missed that Maybe a autodetect Steve feature :)
GN and HU are by far the best channels if you are looking to buy and just need the facts.
AMD's kill list:
- Intel
- NVIDIA
- cyclists.
Underrated comment..............
But, you forgot one - my wallet
Not sure if they are beating nvidia and Intel kinda still holds strong enough for games
@@EpicGamingEct haha, yeah i doubt that.
Numbers do lie when they are pulled out of ones ass.
@@EpicGamingEct yeah intel will only gain single core lead, for multithread intel doesnt have shit
@@EpicGamingEct Lmao, you work for userbenchmark don't you? Intel won't ever hit 6ghz without using liquid nitrogen, no one will, especially not on a smaller node. Don't be daft.
had my 5900x since 2021 and its still such a beast of a cpu. Only thing i upgraded was my 3070 to a 7900xt recently. I dont plan on upgrading until am6 if im being honest
For the record I'm glad you guys do these videos. 2 years later, I finally have extra money to upgrade my 3600x for use of my unraid server. And with the price of the 5900x being 320 bucks today, I think this is a great upgrade.
Decvember of 2023 now, can get this one for ~$250. Insane price for a productivity/gaming purposes.
264 on Amazon right now I have a 3600x too. For a few years now I have run every game perfectly until recently with helldivers 2 which runs at 40-50 fps and crashes occasionally and pacific drive which runs at 40-50 fps and crashes frequently.
@@ssholedi have a 3600x too . why on earth we didnt get a 3700x on that time?
@javadazimi9571 😅 i finally decided to upgrade to this as well, from a little ol 1500x. 250 made it a no brainer to get started on a new build.
chiming in late here - also just upgraded from 3600, the 5900x was a bargain and the performance gain is nuts. "future proofing" back in 2020 was actually worth it..?
GN's thumbnail game is on point.
Andrew is embarrassed at how good he is at making thumbnails.
Next vid : just blood and a gn logo
Blue Blood Bath
@Adithya R that's a half an hour longer then NVIDIAs stock. One thing I'll say is you gotta remember this is the year of corona virus. Manufacturing countries were shut completely down for months. You kinda have to expect this. Sucks, but it is what it is
@@GamersNexus it’s a gift Andrew; don’t shy from it.
The next two reviews better be titled, "Killing Spree" and "Killamanjaro" respectively lol
UNFRIGGINBELIEVABLE
Was hoping for some NBA JAM "Heating up" followed by "He's on fire".
PENTAKILL!
Is there a game that uses Killmanjaro as a kill streak label?? If not it should. :D
@@Castaa halo
Congratz on the 1m+ subs!!! Keep up the good work. Great video as usual!
yoooooo
Damn Techsource. I didn’t know you watched GN!
Hey techsource
No one likes you, shill.
Your channel is dying and now you're desperately clawing for attention on better channels lol.
@@Rezirex lol someone's mad
Seeing as I literally can't stand Intel due to their anti consumer, anti competitive bullshit they've pulled towards amd in the past it is so satisfying to see amd demolishing Intel.
@@Josh-cw8by and you think that is anywhere near as bad as the shit Intel has pulled over the previous few decades, your having a bloody laugh if you do!
@@Josh-cw8by it's also got fuck all to do with fanboyism. Suggest you go watch the excellent video Jim did over at adored tv about Intel, anti-consumer, anti-competitive, anti-technology, what a bloody eye opener that video was & THAT is why I can't stand Intel. People like you really should think before you throw about the fanboyism argument.
@@Josh-cw8by Intel doesn't innovate or improve. They chose to stagnate because they used to be in the lead. And they dont deserve my money because of that. Bye bye intel and hello amd with that new set piece bonus with their gpu+cpu.
@@Josh-cw8by lmao yea but benchmarks don't lie, even if it's marketing was a mistake everyone who bought them knew what it's performance was
And you forget just 2 years ago Intel's prices were literally doubled. You think they are so pro-consumer from the goodness of their hearts that they suddenly halved the prices?? No it's was because there was no competitor they didn't give a fuck on what they charged their consumer because consumers didn't have a choice.
@@Josh-cw8by AMD users aren't fanboys. We're anti-fanboys. Always got someone in my ear telling me how Intel is better, and I don't care. Thankfully that's over for a while. I had Bulldozer CPU's and they all had the correct core counts, so I'd probably sue, too, if someone was trying to defame my billion dollar industry.
So, 5900X is the now 3950X having >90% of its production performance while being top-notch in all the rest including gaming. What a bargain!
Yup basically. Bought one already. KaPoW!
@@padanfain7466 nice
@@padanfain7466 WoT. Nice.
@@padanfain7466 nice
@Emily Thomson haha. Do you work for NVidia? Had no issues. Ordered from CCL at 2pm delivery tomorrow. Scan and Overclockers all had stock for an hour or so as far as I could see. I don't think there will be anywhere near the problems as with cards and we will see substantial stock over the next few weeks. A small nasty part of me is tempted to flip it for £1k and wait for more stock as my 3700x is doing a fine job.
Only this channel give each product his own coverage - on the utmost details.
Thanks Steve and the team for your efforts. Keep up the good work.
This is exactly why they deserve my money for the sick merch i now own
Hardware Unboxed too, they're releasing one review per day.
AMD is competing with itself at this point.
Am I'm going insane? The I'm seem to still be just as good as the 5900x in the graphs? Why do people say intel got crushed? Ofc there is a more expensive cpu on amds side that is the new best but that one isn't competing with the 10900k.
Great batch of cpus from amd, no question about that though.
@@informitas0117 Because in productivity, the 5900x not only smashes the 10900k in everything now (even the Adobe suite), but also in gaming, where the 5900x is a few percent faster than the 10900k, save for RDR2. So price-to-price, either for gaming or productivity, 5900x is the better buy, thus killing any value or sentiment in buying the 10900k.
@@informitas0117 AMD is less expensive compared to Intel
@@informitas0117 get Rekt
@@informitas0117 RIP
Intel: "Coffin Lake coming soon ⚰️"
Nvidia: "Stop he's already dead"
AMD: "No."
No idea why intel would releass another 14nm cpu . It isnt even out yet and its on a dead platform already next year new sockets for all brands ddr5 pcie 5 maybe . And for what to reclaim or match a 1080p gaming crown . No one owning a 10900k or 10700k or 5900x or even 3800x plays at 1080p . Why pay so much if you cant display the eye candy ? Only a competitive player in a lan enviroment would benefit . If ur gaming at home you have ping latency anyway lag comp. And so on .
ASTRONOMIA INTENSIFIES
@Watchdog so ur buying all that gear at that price to stare at pixels on a 1080p monitor ?i'm sure it's gonna look pixeled and butter smooth when u get killed by a camper or a claymore . and even if ur the best gamer in the world I guarantee you will get the same score on a 240hz mon.
AMD: "I'm comming for you next"*
@@ulftnightwolf LTT made a video with literally pro players proving that high refresh rate improve your score. If you game to compete refreshe rate is 1000% more important than resolution, hence why pros uses 4:3 aspect ratio and shity resolutions to have high fps constantly.
I love that AMD is finally, once again, embarrassing Intel into stepping up their game. I don't care who makes a CPU, I just want the best value for dollar.
Smart person right here , love that.
And they sure have stepped up their game with Alder Lake, hope things continue this way
@@crylune Competition, a win for us customers!
facts I always compare intel to Apple and AMD to Android. you get more features with better quality at a much better price depending on the phone you buy.
Thank goodness Lisa Su was hired on. Because AMD was going bankrupt before. She saved the industry. By not only giving customers what they want, but also forcing Intel to step up.
I got the 5900x for $300 US over the holidays and oml this thing is just the best. Boosted my FPS significantly over a 2700x when paired with 1080. Easily overclocked to 4.7. Even 1 year later, unless you are waiting for the next line of Ryzen with probably a new socket, you should get this processor if you are looking for something right now.
YES. I just purchased @ 379.99 and feel comfortable with the price. I am also upgrading from a 2700x and looking forward to the big FPS gains!
Tried to get a 5900x this morning but in Canada our largest computer retailer had around five stores with a single 5900x each across the 35 stores in the entire country.
Yup, AMD totally snubbed Canada. I can’t even get on a preorder list as it’s already full. I’ve been trying since 6am PST
They snubbed US as well, nice paper launch. As for online the bots snatched them up.
Another Nvidia type launch. These cpu should have been up for preorder since October
@@turbowrx777 I got mine in the UK after half an hour of trying. Seems like America and surrounding countries just get left behind lol
Seinken?
I’m excited to see the value of the 5800x, I pre ordered it on B&H and I’d like to have something to be excited about when it arrives for Christmas next year
🤣🤣
I got mine on amazon and its saying itll ship from decemver 5 to january 12th.... imagine that
Yeah. I think everyone already acknowledged that 5800x and 5600x are going to be the best CPUs for gaming... Yet most of the reviewers chose to review top part CPUs like 5900x and 5950x which are completely irrelevant for gamer folks... 5950x is 30 percent faster in v ray... yada yada... in monkey head render test... yada yada ... 7 zip compression yada yada yada... Lol dude like we already knew it would be faster in production work benchmarks, who the f k cares... Professionals and production workers would just buy higher core count anyway, this is absolutely pointless and a waste of time...
Just show us benchmarks for games for 5600x 5800x and 5900x . This is the most crucial part of the information that absolutely majority of reviewers seem not to get... For me personally trying to decide between 5600X and 5800X ,will probably go for 5800X ... And seeing that the majority of reviewers focused on the higher end skews is extremely frustrating, since no gamer should be buying them anyway...
Still waiting for GN 5800X review ,seems like I will be getting it for gaming.
probily 5800x will have same gaming performance or a little better thanks to one ccx
I buy 5900x on jd.com and it will be delivered tomorrow
It was said AMD improved the execution unit design, no wonder why they slaughter Intel so efficiently
3 years later, thank you for making this review. It is still relevant, upgrading gpu and realizing I do want to upgrade my cpu. Thank you for your excellent and detailed reviews.
I really hope Intel makes an "AMD killer" by 2022 not because i am a Blue fanboi but i don't want to see a reversal of the last 10 years. Rather I want to see a race with each team trading the lead to give the market the best consumer advantages.
Thank you. Someone with a brain. The idea of AMD being dominant for a long term and still having our best interest at heart is ludicrous. We need these manufacturers to duke it out as long as possible.
Same, as we've heard intel got complacent. But they have the resources to make a chip that can compete with amd, I hope they just step up their game and get their stuff together.
I believe it will happen this competition in all areas AMD seems to be producing is only good for everyone. Intel is a sleeping giant and it’s just waking up. Give it a few years and it should leap again. What a time to be alive !
@@davecolwell725 exactly, it's not like they're some little company they have the capability they just need to execute. If not looks like my next pc will be an amd.
Judging by the info Intel has given us we can expect Rocket Lake in Q1 2021 which should be faster than the current gen by "double digits"
bought a 5900x second hand for ~ $215. New they cost around $318 in my country (RO). For productivity, in my opinion, this processor is best buy right now, even new. It's nice to see that it can also handle games really well.
Tfw AMD has both the best gaming CPU and the best productivity CPU
all in one package on top of that!
Who buys a 10900k or 5900x or 3800x for 1080p gaming ?
@@ulftnightwolf the stupid ones
@@ulftnightwolf csgo players and other esport gamers
@@alshahriar6230 if ur a competitive esports player in a lan environment sure have at it , if u play over the internet lots of other latency issues so your screen can refresh as fast as it likes only still dependent on your connection.also 1080p fov is more narrow than say 1440p fov . so u lose peri vision. see I'm all for smoothness but even if it's an esports title playing at home better at high ress.1440p for example these days are quite up there as well , graph. cards today can manage 165 fps/hz easy . and trust me the amount of players in the world that can benefit fully from that refresh difference probably fit on one hand.
After today I'm officially making the switch! Can not justify sticking with INTEL, which I've had 100% of the time! It's time folks. Prove me wrong Intel....I dare you!
Unfortunately, Intel do not care about Desktop anymore. But their asses are still getting kicked on the WAY MORE profitable server market, wich is a bit more worrying about their future on the x86 market.
imgur.com/a/pWjHmig I sure did
@@Josh-cw8by it's totally justifiable if you do more things than just gaming
@@Josh-cw8by If your a content creator, work with a lot of production workloads, or an extremely competitive gamer (pro scene), then its entirety realistic to make the leap. Those who were holding off on Zen 2 because of gaming performance now have their answer.
Is your PC lacking in some way that requieres a complete system overhaul? If not, why go through the trouble and expense of building a whole new PC?
Super excited to run this with my 4060 and 32gb ram. I managed to snag one new in box for $300 just a few days ago. Upgrading from a 3050 and R7 1800x so hoping to see a big boost.
Up until now, AMD is the good choice for overall performance, while intel takes the gaming crown..
This is what happens when you sleep intel. I game so I went intel, but even before this one, if i were to build one I will go AMD. And with this release, for sure its AMD.
I have intel..but damn good job amd, thank you
Didnt matter when it was just 3000 series . Who buys a 10900k or 5900x or even 3800x for 1080p gaming ? A few hundred competitive players and thats about it .
1440p and up gpu has been and is bottleneck . Glad amd took the gaming crown maybe now the fanboys will finally read something more than just brand marketing material .
Yeah, this is a really great for competition and of course for us customers! I really like that jump in power efficiency or performance per watt uplift.
@@ulftnightwolf pc tech reviewers: games will use more cores and threads in the future. and dual monitor setups and multitasking will be better on amd 5000. intel 10th gen is bad value amd does everything better. i only know what i hear.
@@hgr3180 I already made the switch running 3800x as primary pc now btw if ur interested the cpu is for sale ;-) and running dual monitors on all my setups . always use a high refresh rate tn panel as primary and color accurate ips as secondary .same setup (tn and ips ) on both systems.and one system in the garage ( old only used with remote desktop so no peripherals attached )
@@ulftnightwolf im using 3600 right now in my build. who knows what ill do with that cpu. i could return it and throw in an older cpu i have and upgrade to a 5900x.
Just snagged a 5900X for $380, $120 less than the 3900X I bought in Aug of '19, amazing...
4 videos in 24 hours, your hard work is appreciated.
A suggestion for future content: Maybe you could choose the axis end values and number of splits so they would result at splits at even 100, 50, 25, etc.? It's really hard to decipher the graphs when the y axis has values like 4913, 4975 and 5048 (from splitting the delta of 500 from 4600 to 5100 in 8 parts), instead of 4900, 4950, 5000, 5050 (from splitting delta of 500 in 10 parts). Having only the even 100s listed, but additional splits at 50 in between (without values) would be ideal to avoid clutter.
To add on the bandwagon of criticism...
They didn't include competitive games on the charts which many millions of gamers live by ... Perhaps it is not important to including MOBA like games, but FPS style competitive games where higher frame rates count are important, and specifically CS:GO ... Which apparently AMD has got the biggest lead at there up to %50 IPC uplift according to some reviewers ,unfortunately all of the bigger reviewers completely skipped it including GN (which infuriates me)... This is absolutely a huge deal, and will mean that in the long term, millions of dollars and sponsorships will be moving towards AMD ... as well as millions of gamers that are trying to get the competitive advantage in competitive games will be switching to AMD also... This is a much bigger deal than getting a few more or less frames on a seasonal game like RDR2 for example...
@@stevebalmer8888 cs go already runs at like 400+ fps, who cares about reaching 600 or a thousand
@@ZuppaD.Cipolle I do.
Average FPS on the 10900k and RTX 3080 is between 300 and 360 ,then there's such thing as 0.1fps lows for when you get frame dips, which are as important for smoother gameplay as just higher frames.
Monitor manufacturers will not go into higher Hertz unless they see a niche in the market...So we need games to start hitting those frames to get higher refresh rate monitors...It's been suggested by blurbusters that 1k hz is the ideal sweet spot for motion clarity, beyond that, it still improves it but will be getting diminishing returns ... So 1k FPS and no dips in FPS is the target that we should be aiming at for competitive games.
learn how to read a graph dude....
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the values dont matter if you know how to do simple math
@@kainhall What? I can not only read the graphs, but also do simple (and some more advanced) maths.
My complaint was the unnecessary convolution of having to do mental gymnastics; why do I need to calculate the values, when better graphs would show them at a glance?
I love that you add code compile to the benchmark! Subscribed 👍🏻
I have this CPU. Got it at 380 euro brand new, boxed. Loving it.
2019: If you want the best performance for gaming, intel is still your choice.
2020: If you want 10 more fps in RDR2, intel is still your choice.
RIP.
Actually, it's like 20-30 better min fps, that's like 30% better min framerate on the 10900K, you have to give Intel the respect they deserve, they are literally competing with AMD's newest and greatest with their old ass 14nm++++++++ tech and somehow they even manage to beat them in a few games.
@@AdiiS i mean we mostly look at averages and also it's in one single game, so they dont really deserve respect
@@AdiiS lol, i guess you aren't wrong though. you can throw shade at them but you have to do it while being right
@@AdiiS old ass 14nm with 10 years of optimization.
@@AdiiS nm is only about power efficiency. Intel also has 10nm and using it for more than a year in laptops but there is a reason even their 11th gen desktop Rocket lake is still 14nm. Remember AMD is using TSMC 7nm that was originally designed for arm smartphone chips (Apple and Huawei were the first customers of 7nm TSMC).
Damn. Steve got all four. I managed to get a 5800x today. I’m happy af!! 🙌🙌 got off work this morning 7:30 am and drove 89 miles at 90/95 mph to wait in line for 2hrs lol. I got it tho. Worth it! Lol
grats!
What country you in?
@@rossharper1983US
@@shotgun88deadlift ty! :)
Same. I love in Indianapolis and drove to Cincinnati Ohio to microcenter and i got there a little late. 20 minutes till opening. But i was still able to snag a 5800x . I feel like i got lucky, 5 minutes later after i got there. There was 50-75 more people that arrived and half of them left when microcenter said they had limited stock. They passed out waivers for the cpus and i was able to get one
Steve is the 5950x of my ❤️.
i still have my 5600...maybe ill buy the 5900x in a couple of years. Long live AM4. Literally.
live long and prosper 🖖
5yrs later, I dropped a $350 5900x CPU in the X370 motherboard I bought in 2017, replacing the 1700x that I started with. Huge upgrade for next to nothing :)
i got this deal too for the 5900x, still in the process of gathering parts for the build. (had an i5 7600k before) very excited for the build to be complete.
good sales on these right now, got mine for $350 which is around what I paid for my 3700x!
Copped and installed, had a 2700x prior to the 5900x… i noticed massive fps difference
so you'd recommend it? i assume the 5900x is good enough for any gaming for the near future?
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem yes of course wtf.... its a beast
Be sure to enable PBO in your bios ^^
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem I'd recommend it. I had a 3700x, and when I upgraded to the 5900x I saw a huge difference in performance.
Finally got one and holy crap it is fast! HUGE upgrade from a 9700kf!
GN has been killing it for a long while now, with their honest and in depth content. Keep up the great work Steve & team! PS. The mousemat is awesome!
Managed to ORDER TODAY! My first PC build since 2006. :)
Will be very interesting to see these benchmarks again once the rx 6000 series release so we can see how big off a difference the smart access memory does!
Just imagine what the new Threadrippers will be. I'm so glad there's competition.
There's no more competition lol
Might be finally time to upgrade from my i7 6700K :D
Yep, I’m thinking I’ll be replacing my 4790k
I also have the 6700K and looking to buy a new PC with ryzen.
Which one you plan to buy?
@@Eliranu I'm not exactly sure yet as I think I'm going to read all the reviews for all processors and see which one would be most beneficial. Yes I'd be gaming but I've started to use Blender, Zbrush and Maya so it maybe that the 5900X or the 5800X will be the way to go for me personally. The £250 I'd save would go towards a GPU. The GPU may be a 6900XT or an RTX3090 as I can use the extra memory for rendering especially in Blender, yet have the extra horsepower for great framerates in games.
Depending on the performance of the 6800, 6800XT or 6900XT, then they still may be the better option depending on how they compare to the 3090 (rendering workloads, raytracing etc). It will be one of those, just going to wait for team reds performance charts before taking the plunge. How about yourself?
@@Kobra31677 gotcha bro.. I think I'll go with the 5800X.
@@Kobra31677 you priced that in pounds so I'm assuming your in the UK. The 10900KF in UK is £20 more than 5800X, and has 2 more cores. Price to performance it beats the 5800x if your doing gaming and multithreaded workloads
Just dropping in again to say that I'm continuously thrilled with your brutal honesty with your methodology, chart interpretations, vendor impartiality and general cutting-through-the-crap. I love your stuff and it's where I turn to for analysis I can trust. You guys are putting in a lot of hard work and long hours - I know how that feels. I want to say thank you for this content. You guys are legends.
"Multikill" I like the Unreal Tournament reference in the title. Title of the next video should include "Finish Him !"
Ordered my 5900x at launch from B&H Photo Video, got it yesterday. Worth the wait! From my i7-7700k at 5Ghz to a 5900x with three times the Cores/Threads at 4.7Ghz using marginally more power. I've been CPU bound in so many games and applications as of late even running a modest GTTX1660ti.
Nice that's good to hear, it's alo absolute bs aswell theres people who have paid and orderd a 5900x in UK and rest of Europe since nov 5th launch day yet we were still waiting, March 16th 2021 fuck you AMD spastic ***
how is it any crashes or bsod?
Ive got a whole pot of coffee for this set of videos
The tab looks like it could say, "Police line do not crush."
And then, when the 5800X and 5600X reviews arrive, AMD will show up and crush not just the dead Intel, but the IC cops as well!
Intel: tries to rob AMD
* Bulldozer *
AMD:call an ambulance
Intel:Ok
* Ryzen *
AMD:But not for me!
I'm too dumb to understand what you're talking about.
But it's fun watching your videos.
Loving how strong the 5000 chips are looking. I am probably not going to upgrade to them from my 3600 just yet, but having a option to go to the 39xX/59xX chips later, possibly when zen4 launches and zen2/3 prices drop.
Thats exactly what I just did. 5900x for $368
I'll be buying one of these later. I caught a 5600X on launch day at 6:10am PT on Newegg for $299, can't wait for the review later today. Half the cache makes me nervous but I bet it's going to be a great little chip for gaming. GREAT job on the coverage today.
what do you mean half the cache? it has 32mb of cache isnt enough ?
@@parabelluminvicta8380 Well the 3900X and 5900X have twice as much cache as a 5600X. That can impact performance a lot even in single threaded. More cache is almost always better and there is no such thing as "enough". In Zen 3, the "split cache" seems to not be a performance hit. But I think the 32MB chips will be pretty good despite half the cache.
@@SnowmobileHomeMovies for 6 cores 32mb is plenty of cache you dont have to worry.
@@parabelluminvicta8380 lol there is no such thing as enough cache
@@parabelluminvicta8380 Enough cache is when DRAM is not needed. Until that happens, there is never enough cache. More is always better.
BREAKING NEWS: LISA SUE ARRESTED FOR MURDER
SUE her!
SUper
Breaking news: Mark Papermaster indicted for murder!
When Asians become CEO, they will hate the competitors to the heart, they will compete like crazy and start to take it personal.
@@novrahadi8568 "it's not enough that I succeeded, you mush perish" or something...
STEVE!!! Don't stay up too late working on these benchmarks! Don't drink those energy drinks either! You need to stay healthy in your young age so you can keep up this stellar f'en work
Hey Steve, could you do a video explaining the optimal memory frequency ratios and overclocking capabilities for the Ryzen 5xxx family?
Steve there is something wrong with the 0.1% and 1% lows on this new 5000 series. I think they are ram bottlenecked 3200mhz too low for this cpu's.
Didn't AMD recommend 4000MHz for 5000 series?
@@YlkevanSpankeren Yep, can't wait until gm goes over this and shows some benchmarks. It will kill intel even more
@@YlkevanSpankeren it was a leak, so not really.
Isnt timing more important for zen? "not as fast" ram with good timing should be good comparable or maybe better even.
I suppose we learn when they test it later
@@gchatz6480 I remember GN made a video about it, there's a sweet spot I think it was like cl16 3800Mhz, so I guess they'll do the same test for these one eventually
That "Multikill" word really made me nostalgic. Ohh those good old days... Only Unreal Tournament guys will understand what I'm saying.
RAMPAGE!
maaan i cant even discribe how much i miss that "double tap" movement and my beloved Flak, Link & Goo guns 😎
@@mho... Its amazing to meet people like you man! Thanks a lot.
@@ZX3000GT1 🔥🙏
The 5900x can be had for under $450 right now from Amazon, or from Newegg (with a promo code). Think I'm about to jump on it.
This is why I normally wait for about a year instead of buying right after release. Upgrading from 2700x, which I also bought about a year late, so should be a pretty noticeable difference.
Then I'll just have to save for a year so I can turn my attention to replacing the 5700XT...
I'm also looking at Newegg and that extra $60 off code
I just picked up a 5900X for $390 yesterday from Amazon.
@@jeffmorefield Yeah I ended up waiting a few weeks and got the same price. Don't see it going much lower than that.
*And the award for BEST RUclips thumbnail in 2020 goes to.....*
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Thanks for this great review !
Do you plan to add some benchmarks about scientific programming for your next reviews ?
Intel is just trying to keep up with AMD at this point, not even thinking about passing.
Just wait till AMD shifts into 5th gear with ZEN 4 in a year or so. 😂
5nm vs 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Intel went over 9000 long time ago, AMD isnt even at 6000 yet
@M Smithy these are hot products at lunch, and yes regular people are not able to buy them unless they are very lucky and fast. After the hype will be over and they replenish the stock, you'll be able to get one. 👊😀
@@h0rk3d yep Intel needs to start a new line of products Core i11 😂
@@sabnox9869 Intel can make 5nm just go ahead 😅
Most importantly, you did this review on a table.
If increased performance justified increased prices every generation, then modern processors would cost over $160,000. Because, modern parts perform at least that much better than an i486 from 1989.
It's not really the inherent performance increase gen over gen, it's more the performance increase against the competition. If your opponent is selling their gear at a certain price, and you're matching or slightly beating them in one of the two main arenas, and significantly beating them in the other, going a bit over them in pricing is expected. The 3000-series just didn't have the gaming performance of Intel, so they were more careful, while still justifying equal cost with way better multitasking and productivity performance. Now you're not losing on any front by going AMD.
And if you want to match 10900K performance wise in both gaming and productivity, it seems the 5800X is right there, and is significantly cheaper. =)
Adding to comment up, Stave said that 5900x outperforms 3950x, so it leaped into higher category.
lol another poor crying for $50, if u are not going to buy it even if it was $100 cheaper cuz u are poor, dont cry about it LOL
Markos facepalm. Perfect victim for capitalism
@@senectarius9685 Comparing the $50 price hike to what Nvidia did with graphics cards, AMD is still an angel. Also worth pointing out, that a lot of AMD users are already on 400 or 500 series boards, they have no additional expenses aside from the CPU, so for those users the CPU price hike is easier to swallow as it's the only component they need to replace. And the non X chips will be with us soon, which will be priced lower, and I'm pretty sure AMD will release 5000 series APUs for consumers this time around which will be lower priced too.
Just ordered mine! 200 bucks, good price worth it, imo
mooare!!!! we want more!, great review!, thank you for splitting the reviews, is way easier to watch on the charts.
Can't wait for the 5800X review, I'm glad I was able to get one!
Super fast tap to watch before the pop up notification even disappeared on me phone (also first lol, actually legit first post now I am the useless first poster)
That's a quick tap!
@@GamersNexus just like how amd tapped intel ayyyy
not even close to first
@@GamersNexus so glad I have my friend pre buying my pc, 3800x, 32gb (can only run at 2933 due to the motherboard) Asus x370 prime pro, 1tb ssd (Toshiba xg3) at least this will pay approx £1000 towards a 5800x system
I had a 1800x installed originally(it wasn't the best cpu as I had to all core turbo overclock to 3.8ghz to just get rid of the hitching/stuttering hard to explain over text) , still actually own it and it's inside the plastic tray the 3800x came in, it's worth less then £100 now lol, amd cpus really don't hold their money, but any Intel cpu with the word i7 in it is model are over £150-300 (it can be a 8th gen cpu or a 2nd gen all super overpriced)
This will be my 5 year pc this time (wait for the dust to settle to find out best optimal motherboard for cpu and ram)
5800x, x570 motherboard (already own 2x16gb g.skill neo 3600 cl16 kit) 2tb SSD, unsure in gpu yet case, corsair 750w psu probably and maybe a 4TB hdd for system image backup (but I have 2 nas main and pull rsync backup nas so might not bother with local backup storage)
I see a lot of content creators who only rely on one local Nas be Raid5 sometimes RAID6 and at least 2 youtubers who have gotten them self's stuck or angry at said nas company (when it was there fault for not having a second unit to backup the first one) when it failed or pool crashed and lost a lot of stuff, sometimes when I try to explain to people raid is not a backup all they hear is it can survive 1 or 2 disks failure so its a backup lol
@@GamersNexus Not sure if it's an issue with my settings or the way amazon does links but your link and directly searching on amazon does not net the pages for the 5000 series chips. Pauls hardware links however do work even if they are out of stock anyway.
Steve, can you test some 4000mhz ram with the new ryzen chipset. I'm hearing that 4000 is the new sweet spot. Very keen to see if true
yeah, some have reported 4000 with 1:1 ratio
I literally just dropped this chip into my mobo the other day. It's a MSI 370x SLI plus mobo that supports the chip via bios update...
I am super happy with it so far. Hoping this video doesn't kill my high lol.
Got that out of the way in the beginning. Now I will play the video.
And another couple caveats. I got it on sale for sub 300 dollars on sale at time of this comment, despite it being more expensive default retail.
So that may help.
That bar mat looks seriously cool.
When is the 5600x review going live?
My guess is about 8 hours. Hopefully much less.
Intel's lineup lookin like a battlefield from "The Witcher 3" (whole lotta dead horses lyin' around~)
stock seems pretty bad.. headed to the store as everything is in-store pick-up and they were sold out before I got there :/ with no pre-orders or anything I guess I should have lined up but everyone was saying stock should be good.
I saw a lot of stock for the 5600 and 5800 but the Ryzen 9's were almost non-existent. The majority of stores in Canada had no units at all, and if they had any they had a single CPU.
I bought one and got info about delivery by 10-16.11.2020. Few minutes later it updated to 20-30.12. So stocks are definitely NOT good. We will see if they are worse than nvidia's
because people are fucking stupid, never expect any tech to be in stock with covid.
@@bassexbn3 yes should have known better. for record I was speaking of reviews like hardwareunboxed etc who had been asked in Q&A.. perhaps stock is better in some places than others
I love your informational videos, plenty of stats to keep me entertained. I also really appreciate the chapters in the progress bar you always add.
congrats on a million subs man i have never seen a more deserving youtube channel
Normal people while Corona:
Stacking Toiletpaper to the roof.
Gamer while Corona:
Stacking GPUs and CPUs to the roof.
So impressive how the managed to do all this and keep power down. I hope to look back on this comment in 10 years and laugh at how advanced i through this was.
GN really does deserve a lot more subs then they actually have. The quality is seriously top tier, as always.
Not timestamping the conclusion in the description anymore... I see what you’re doing Steve!! ;)
Thanks for your work Steve and everyone at Gamers Nexus. Your channel is always the first I go to! Awesome work.
Also: as a Aussie citizen, really happy to see the T-shirt!
I remember hearing a year or two ago about how Sunny Cove was going to have 18% IPC uplift. AMD has released two generations in that time, each with similar gains. I'm seriously starting to feel worried about how certain people currently at Intel will feed their families this time next year.
25:30 The problem is that its totaly not worth the 100 bucks between the 5800x and 5900x. 450 or 550 dollar for the extra 100 you get basically 50% more cores. The 5800x need a lot better pricing or they need to throw in a 5700x.
It is or is not worth the extra $100 to buy a 5900x over a 5800x (your reasoning sounds conflicting).
@@nat3llite I'm sure it's a typo and he meant to say "it's totally worth the 100 bucks"
@@nat3llite I think what he meant is "the 5800x isn't worth it when you can get a 5900x for 100$ extra"
@@AndySomething that’s my guess too :)
That's where I'm at.
Everyones saying that intel is dead... and while I kind of agree on the high-range... once you get to the 5800x and 5600x, I really don't think it is as clear, at least in gaming.. (though I'm waiting to see the GN 5600x benchmarks).
But for example, in RDR2: A stock 10700k actually beats an overclocked 5900x, and a stock 10600k beats a stock 5900x. Both in max FPS, but much more significantly in 1% and 0.1% lows.
The 5900x wins in all of the other games compared to a 10700k... but not by much, and consider that the 5900x is 45% more expensive. The 5800x is 18% more expensive, and from the other benchmarks I've seen on other channels/sites, I don't think it performs 18% better.
Now to what you said... if they had a 5700x, and it was similar to how the 3700 stacked up against the 3800... now we're talking about pretty insane value IMO. You'd be arguably getting the same performance as the 5800 in gaming... at quite a bit less.
This is one of those instances where AMD ran over Intel with its semi, got out to see the carnage, then put it in reverse just to make sure
Doubletap
Lets just hope they don't screw it up like Marky Mark and the Rock ;~)
And if the next two reviews follow the trend, AMD will repeat that procedure a couple more times, _then_ move on.
@@Operational117 After seeing other reviews on the 5600x and 5800x, I have zero doubts that will happen
Speaking of something Semi, their reported earnings from Semi Custom SoC solution of the currently awaited consoles is, huh not a joke too lol, but well AMD's the large one in the console SoC department so...
Also I can't imagine i'd get a very engaging gaming system with 1TB SSD (because boi it's one of those good stuffs too other than the console's SoC performance) in a Xbox Series X or PS5 for a price of less than the 3950X's at release back then, just nice, big NICE. RDNA and Zen really working out for the rest of the x86 tech industry
On the PC side, the way Intel had the upper hand IPC against Zen 2 with a heckin (still) 14nm process, that's a tough one from Intel, now as we all have seen AMD's another 7nm process move, finally AMD got the lead over Intel's tough 14nm process, but hey that 14nm toughness was pretty hot, talking about 5900X (or 3900X comparably back then) against 10900K in temps
Now get the 5800X review out!!! No sleep, No rest, No bathroom break! :) Great work as always...
My 5900X backorder just came in today! Over 3 months of waiting is finally over, huge upgrade from my 4670k!
how is it any crashes bsod?
@@gregt1592 Been fantastic so far, few hiccups at the beginning but was fixed with bios updates to my B550 board.
@@Cptkiller2010 hiccups? i bought a msi x570 tomahawk and im about to buy the 5900x was just hoping there is no probs i was reading alot had problems thx
@@gregt1592 I had some system freezes, couldn't figure out what it was, no error codes or anything. But after a bios update (gigabyte b550 vision d) its been smooth sailing since then. Heard some B550s had some early troubles with the 5000 series.
@@Cptkiller2010 alright thanks i appreciate the info im buying mine today
I want the 5600x review PLEASEEEE!!!!
Its awesome
Yeah, I was kinda locked in on the 5900x even tho I only game but want to be a bit "future proof", now Steve says 5600x would be a better choice in the 5900x review but there is no 5600x review yet, waah!
@@n3rdy11 Don't buy more cores for gaming. 5900/5950X are only slightly better because they boost slightly higher, the increase in core count is largely irrelevant for gaming. You'd be better off saving the change for your next upgrade rather than spending extra on something that hardly nets any gains, if any.
Futureproofing performance is a lost cause. Only thing you can really "futureproof" is reliability and longevity. Buy a quality PSU now and it might last you a couple builds, same thing with a good case. A good cooler might also serve you well for a long time, especially air coolers since they have no moving parts other than the fans that are replaceable. You get the idea.
@@SaltyMaud As much as I appreciate the sentiment: Thanks, but no thanks.
I've been building rigs for over two decades, my last CPU choice lasted me a decade, the one before that half a decade.
I'm not buying the 5900x for the cores, that's just a nice extra to get triple what I currently have, but mostly for the extra L3 cache, which can be _very_ performance relevant particularly in gaming.
The extra cores will only become relevant in the coming years as games will be more optimized for them due to the PS5/Xbox.
_"A good cooler might also serve you well for a long time, especially air coolers since they have no moving parts other than the fans that are replaceable."_
My current 360 custom loop has been running for close to a decade, never had to replace a single thing except for fluid.
Even if the pump would break, I could simply replace it. You know, kinda like with a fan, turns out that actually works with most parts of a PC ;)
@@n3rdy11 What extra L3 cache? The 5800X has 38 MB per CCX, and the 5900X has 35 MB per CCX. Yes, the 5900X has 70 MB total, because it has 2 CCX, but those don't sum up since cores can only access the cache of their CCX (this means most data is just duplicated in each CCX's L3 cache. It's actually similar to how VRAM works in SLI setups: you don't get double VRAM, most data is duplicated in the 2 cards). [edit: actually both have 32 MB of L3 cache per CCX, so they're the same. It's only L2 that differs, since that's per core - still the same amount of L2 per core]
In workloads where threads are more independent of each other, so the cache of each CCX will actually have different data (as long as threads are not moved between CCXs), then the extra cache will be beneficial. But for games this is not the case.
I understand info is limited but I was wondering when can we expect restocks of Cpus? I tried to get one this morning even waking up an hour in advance but i had no luck.
The etailer I spoke with said they will get more cpus in about 3 to 4 weeks
IN Australia the Ryzen 7 and 5 is easily available. The Ryzen 9s are NOT sold out, they haven't even arrived as of yet.
@@arikelvara not true
@@fanboiahoy260 according to Umart so... You got any updates?
I didnt expect Intel to get beaten this hard
How? Skylake is 5 years old and their 14nm nodes are 6 years old lol I see it the other way.. it's sad it took AMD this long.
@@Code-n-Flame im more amazed they managed to beat a multibillion dollar company at their own game while they only have a thousandth of the budget
This is what I get for listening to tech people saying the 5000 series wouldn't be that much of a jump over the 3000. So much for this 3900X. Now I just feel like I jumped the gun somehow. I mean I adore it, but I can't help but feel like waiting just half a year more would have been a big help.
I don't care if this comment gets "likes" or not, but Steve could you imagine that Intel is like "well...atleast the 10900k performs better than the new AMD 5000 CPU's in Red Dead Redemption 2. So..there!". It's almost absurd, really. That title is really the only "saving grace". I am BLOWN AWAY by these new AMD Cpu's, but in the back of my mind, as a Ryzen Cpu owner (and "fan") I am not surprised! This is awesome, incredible to finally see. Thank you...and all top Tech RUclips channels providing these benchmarks.
Sad fact: All CPU´s were sold out long before this review 😢
In the UK and US I can still find retailers showing in stock. What country you in
@@rossharper1983 What retailers are you talking about. I've been checking all of the top US online retailers constantly and 5900x and 5950x went instantly out-of-stock at 9:30 EST this morning and have been ever since.
I can find them here in Poland... but at a price I would not pay.... I am quite happy with my 3900X and can wait. There is no emergency ....
Central Europe here 😎 That´s a little bit far to the east from UK. Besides, next batch will come next week and i´d still rather wait til stock stabilization. It´s just month before Christmas. Also put new consoles and new AMD GPUs in and you´ll get a result of really crazy hectic Christmas with everything out of stock. The demand might raise prices to insane heights.
Besides, i think i´d rather go for the GPU next year. My R5 3600 might be a potato sample (early batch, bought a month after release), but still enough for my rig.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq CET also in Poland. Prices are WAY too high.
Your Power Consumption charts seem to be showing and average of instantaneous power consumption. This isn't really relative to anything except power-supply sizing. Wouldn't it be much more useful to compare 'Watt-Hours' per test/suite completed?
This would account for difference in thread counts, which would allow the consumer to compare actual computational power to watt-hours consumed for various core count processors.
Thank you for your consideration.
running 2 blenders one in CPU going forward and one in GPU going backwards!! wow I'm surprised I never thought of that. Granted blender is a nightmare on my i7-2600 + geforce 780. I can't wait to get my 5900x and 3090.
Thanks for the comment on the 3900x vs 5900x on code compilation, I won't need to be upgrading just yet.
Picked one up, can't wait. 😎
finally. AMD takes gaming crown. All hail AMD.
Sort of. GPU bottleneck still cripples them a bit. Definitely real competition, with decent pricing.
yikes
All hail competition. No company deserves you loyalty.
I'm pretty sure some people WANT a monopoly and would be happy paying insanely inflated prices just so long as their favorite corporate overlord keeps showering them with new monopoly themed t-shirts and mousepads.
Nvidia got so much blow back on launch day for zero stock. AMD gets praised endlessly and no one talks about the zero stock till Q1 2021 cool story.
Except a decent number of people did get CPUs.
Intel Boss holding his i-10 CPU: Look how they massacred my boy...
GN i can not express how much i appreciate the timestamps. Sometimes im at work and cant watch the full vid until later,and the timestamps get my quick fix.
"Second of four CPUs we're reviewing today"
So the last video is going to say "QUAD DAMAGE" right?
Holy crap, a $100 Linode credit?! Man, I missed out when I created my account a few months ago and only got $20... $100 would keep my dinky server going for a looooong time on credit alone.