@@partyjerk The 10900K doesn't have access to Smart Access Memory. With SAM enabled, the 5950X gets another ~10% more performance, so it will crush Intel in almost all games.
@@IslamReazul Also lets not forget Horizon Zero dawn and most others also where it was a match. There were only a couple of games where Intel pulled ever so slightly ahead like Farcry and Rainbow. I know farcry also liked the Intel platform better and probably always will perform slightly better on Intel. I am thinking the 5800x will be the sweet spot for gaming performance & I guess in a few days steve will let us know if true or not.
I would say it will probably enough to wipe out the 10900k lead in those games where it was ahead, since those margins were mostly small anyway. which is exactly the level of performance AMD claimed in their launch presentation. I cant remember which game it was but they showed the 10900 having a very small lead (2 or 4%) in a single game while the 5950x was ahead in everything else, and they were upfront about those results being achieved with smart access memory and RAGE MODE basically, it looks like we have no reason to doubt those numbers
well they already have, new Re-fresh-Lake with PCIe4 on 14nm+++++++ is come in Q1 2021 in Intel launch style of last 7 years, now that is not our headache, no our headache will come in form of a blitz with Skylake or non-Skylake part on 10nm TSMC or 6nm TSMC process node around same time as Zen 4 launch on 5nm TSMC. when Jim Keller left Intel, Bob Swan did shuffle the deck and it could be a long roadmap like AMD has been on. also Jim's team will be reporting to Raja Koduri who oversee all of Intel architecture roadmap.
@@Dr.WhetFarts I have a r5 5600x sitting right behind me. There was plenty of availability for the 5600x/5800x, but for such a huge release of course demand will outstrip supply to begin with. You cant expect to rock up 3 days late and get your hands on one immediately. The 3000 series release was/is a complete screw up from NVIDIA and are a direct result of poor supply chain management, the stock shortages on the 5000 processors are due to huge demand. Its like people forget that its not abnormal for new products to sell out. As for the 6000 series - it hasnt even released yet so lets wait and see. It will sell out but in terms of volume im sure there will be far more than the 3000 series shipped in the first month of release.
Everything up to that point was already pretty nice, but at that moment, I actually said "Oh my god" out loud, too. On the same node, this is some serious engineering!
Ya, I'm way less excited for Zen 3 than RDNA2. Partly because I already have a 3700X that serves me well, but more so because the CPU market was already flush with great options while we've been starved of compelling new GPU releases since the 1080 Ti hit shelves almost 4 years ago.
@@DrearierSpider1 3700x is great but if anyone gets the 6000 series GPU then ryzen 5000 makes the most sense due to Smart Access Memory and its 19% ipc gains
@@arnabsaha8761 I also have a 3700X paired with a 5700XT and even though the improvements are great on both the new CPU and GPU fronts I still think it's too soon to upgrade, I might do it when they jump to 5nm.
@@arnabsaha8761 I mean obviously the newer products are faster than the old ones, and you should consider them if you're building new today. But my point is my 3700X already provides a very smooth gaming experience, and I don't see it being worth at least $300 to get rid of a part I bought a year ago to go from 120 fps to 180 fps.
@@DrearierSpider1 Yeah, as a normie gamer productivity guy, 3700x is capable of giving ~120fps in every title I play, so a GPU is the most valuable gain in my system.
@@timba1181 well, when you get the same average performance, at lower clocks, and at 16 cores. That's a slap. And when we pair it with a 6800xt which will probably see a boost only on the 5000 series... Heheheh
@@timba1181 If your rig could already handle an i9, it isn't so important. Though if you're building a new PC, you'd probably want the CPU that allows a cheaper PSU and simpler cooling. Either of these advantages could be leveraged to buy a smaller case or bigger graphics card where possible.
They just now matched Intel's 10900k in gaming, and it costs almost $300 more... Sure, if you do a lot of 3D/design work, it's worth it. If you just want to game and do normal everyday tasks, the 10900k is still a much better buy, and now leaves the door open for Intel to come in with Rocket Lake and take the lead once again in gaming. I really wanted to see AMD take the gaming crown this year, but it doesn't look like this is quite it.
@@xblur17 They didn't just take the gaming crown. They destroyed Intel in gaming. If you want strictly gaming you can get a 5600x and still destroy the 10900k in gaming. That processor which beats the 10900k is only $300. That's better performance for 300 usd less.
@@Im_Ryan As I said, not a fanboy, just looking for the best gaming performer. The 5600x beats Intel in some Esports titles, but in heavy single player games the 10700/900k still seem very competitive. I'll likely still go with an AMD build because of SAM, coupled with a 6800xt. But thanks for being toxic for literally 0 reason!
@@pratyushsharma6655 Will get 5800x since I don't think 5900x justifies its extra 100 dollars for purely gaming workloads. 8 cores is enough for the next 6-7 years of AAA gaming.
If I had to guess, AMD's better SMT and multi-threaded abilities is why newer games like Death Stranding did so well. Which means all the new and updated game engines will probably do very well with the 5000 series.
Dont forget that BOTH the PS and Xbox consoles have AMD hardware. So there will be more games coming out optimized for AMD instead of Intel and Nvidia. If AMD can succesfully make good drivers and their "super resolution" will actually be comparable to DLSS 2.0 then AMD is going to wipe the floor with everyone.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 that's it. They already had more transistors in there than Intel, they made Zen3 even wider. That's more idle hardware for SMT to use so gains per thread should increase even more than previously.
@@MMOplayeerr that was also the case in the previous generation and it only helped AMD so much. Nvidia really pushes developers to use Nvidia optimizations in PC games, they'll actually send a guy to help. AMD needs to get in on this.
@@MMOplayeerr Will their Super Resolution really be a form of AI upscaling? I know they were trying to use their A-tier sharpening software to make dry upscaling look passable, but that can't upscale to 4K from 1080p like DLSS 2.0. Either way, if you plan on buying a Ryzen 5000 processor there's no reason to not go with the stronger hardware, instead of banking on Nvidia developing passable DLSS 2.0 algorythms for all the games you want to play for as long as you plan to keep your GPU.
@@mayukaproject2427 Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
@Analyzing Male Slavery If the performance could support the price increase then sure. I mean isn't that how all things work? Like phones increase in price since it will be better than the previous one. Race cars in F1 and other races.
@@FutureChaosTV They did something similar when they added two cores to the four-core Phenom II while dropping clocks less than 10% on average. Good stuff.
I don't understand either. But what bothers me is the difference between this chart compared to the Gamers Nexus one. Look at this video ruclips.net/video/72AHENDeTEI/видео.html (starting at 21:11). The 10900k is only consuming 8% more power than the 5950x stock to stock. Whereas in the Hadware unboxed video the 10900k is so much more power consuming (+33%) than the 5950x. What is going on ? Maybe the raw numbers are understandably different due to methods of testing, but i suppose the percentage difference should remain the same ?? I'm just looking for an answer, if someone has it... :)
@@whisp9r365 GN Steve explains why in the first few seconds after your timestamp. I'll break it down. It has to do with Intel's boosting behavior. For the first.... 56 seconds, I think? Intel allows more power to go to the CPU. That length of time is denoted by "tau", and an application going past that amount of time of continuous usage is called "tau expiry". GN Steve took that particular power number AFTER tau expiry, as he says, so the processor wasn't boosting as aggressively. I believe he also showed the 10900K power numbers before tau expiry as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyway, HU Steve took his power number before tau expiry in this video, and GN Steve's number for 10900K power draw before tau expiry should be very close to this number. I hope that clears it up for you!
Just when I thought that the Ryzen 9 3950X was so good in performance-per-watt, the Ryzen 9 5950X punches through and beyond my imagination. 16 freaking cores decimate 10 cores Intel by miles and even surpasses their previous 16 cores. All while still using 7 nm that they used last year and bump the IPC and core clock. *How is that possible?!*
@@IgorBozoki1989 Yeah that is true. However, you have got to admire the performance-per-watt of the 5950X. That is way too good. Also, just to nitpick, for an extra of $250, you are getting more cores. So, worth it I guess?
I used to sell more servers with Intel Xeons 3 years before, today quantity decreased, performance of single socket EPIC average hp server is just raping several units on intel hardware :)))
@@GewelReal pretty much yes. X3D chips are better at gaming, high performance chips trade blows in productivity tasks 🤷♂️ As for server part, 7 out 10 servers are AMD according to my distributor data
Don't feel bad. Newegg sold out of the 5900X & 5950X in less than a minute. I had to pre-order my 5950X from BHPhotovideo and it went from "Pre-order" to "Notify" in less than a minute after that too. 😬
The prices aren’t that bad considering every part in the line competes with Comet Lake parts a tier up, but I still don’t like them. A Ryzen 5 shouldn’t be $299, and a Ryzen 7 shouldn’t be $449. Here’s hoping the 5600 and 5700X are more reasonable.
Reinhardt Wilhelm yeah...r5 and r7 are way overpriced. Amd knew noone gonna by "x" cpus in r5 and r7 series and thats why they got only them. I hope they will bring 5700x and 5600 .... But i am done waiting with my fx 6300. Time to upgrade to 3700x, and for couple of years some 5700x when time come...
Would have liked to see some 1440p results. I selfishly want to compare Zen 3 with my Zen+ with my gaming needs, though I'm more looking at the 5600x or 5800x. Edit - Forgot to mention, great review as always.
At the same wattage they would be. Intel has configured their designs to be able to pump up the current flow for clock speeds knowing they can't progress to smaller nodes. So the two are going in different directions and in some ways aren't quite comparable as you put it, with that understanding. 3000 & 5000 are on the same node, so the 5000 gain is quite impressive. I put that down to AMD knowing that TSMC yields are rather good, so they have been able to take a risk and design their silicon more connected knowing there won't be loss-cost hit.
Really great review! Excellent work as always! Only thing that was missing is maybe one or two 1440p benchmarks to see if scaling stays exactly the same ^^
I have not said "Wow!" when reading a benchmark video title in so long. I hope this is a good one. Edit: Wow indeed. I hope we can see similar results from the other models.
With a title like Total Domination I am expecting great things from this CPU. With a few exceptions in some applications I am not disappointed and my day is not ruined.
i think i might wait for the 3950's to get a discount and pick one up. the extra money for the new series doesn't really look like it's worth it once a discount rolls in [for rendering]
I'm going to watch every tech reviewers videos but you guys first. You're video's have the most professional quality and you've told more then one company to "F" off. The amount of independent bench marks you guys run as well is staggering. I really appreciate the honest work you fellas do. Thank you.
newly uploaded videos dont appear all around the world instantly. they go to the uploaders local RUclips servers (from where people can watch them) and then get propagated around RUclips's global server network. by the time it appears on your server, it might have been up for some minutes already somewhere else.
The dark hero has a fantastic features that switches between the OC mode and the normal boost mode above 45 watts of power. It also changes automatically with no reboot, just make sure to enable that on the BIOS.
@@manuelhernandez2017 I have a 280mm beefy AIO (H115i pro) and it doesn't exceed 60C under full load with OC at 1.25V. Pretty cool and efficient chip IMO. Even my 2600 used to get to 60C (albeit with much more voltage (1.375) lol).
5:28 - Holy spit. When AMD advertised top single-core performance, I was expecting like, realistically, maybe a jump to 5-10% better than the 10900K. Y'know, a mild performance boost over the 3000 series already nipping at Intel's heels. But this? Wow. Can't wait to see the rest of the video now. EDIT: Ah, and we run again into what I'm assuming are architecture optimizations. Does better in these games, does worse in these, does about the same in these. But like... damn, the games it does better in, it does REALLY better in. Phew. From a perpetual second place gaming-wise to trading blows and even managing some knockdowns? That's ducking impressive, and nothing at all to sneeze at.
It's great you guys are now in floatplane.... I watch Linus, HUB, GN and UDF for the most part and all of you are there now ... also I kinda hate youtube, maybe soon I'll be both Patreon and floatplane!! Great work, probably somewhere along the line later on 2021 I'll be upgrading my new 3600 for a 5800X, waiting on your results but Linus benchmarks seem promising.
I am confused on the F1 2020 benchmark 11:21 and how these numbers compare to the results gamers nexus had. I know that there are different settings being used though I could be missing something obvious I don’t see how the 5950x could beat the 10900k in gamers nexus video at around 19:50 but it’s the other way around in this. I don’t think anybody is inherently wrong but I’m just curious and confused though this could all just be my misunderstanding.
@@viniciusyugulis7278 In some games. In others, it's up to 20% slower. Don't get me wrong, I totally feel amd is the better chip, but it's not gaming KING. Intel was gaming KING because they were faster in nearly all games, by significant margins, for a decade. That's not really the case here, is it?
Intel i7-5960x/6950x were around $1000 at launch but AMD still to today is under that with innovation included. The mobos for Intel HEDT were also *very* expensive whereas AMD has budget, quality boards.
It’s like in a game. AMD was grinding with Ryzen the last couple of years gaining exp and getting stronger and stronger! Now it butchered the final boss! RIP Intel!
@@fuzzjunky All processors are still in stock at the MicroCenter by me for the moment. I suppose I'm one of the lucky few near a MC though (I'm actually near 2).
This CPU is insane, especially when compared with the previous gen. I was a bit skeptical but now seeing the benchmarks you guys got I must concede that AMD´s engineers achieved an incredible feat with this series.
Yes, the are the best well rounded processors ever made in all fronts. Why a 10700K now (the best 8 core and 16 threads processor for now) if the 5800X is better?
I've never been so excited in my life to see Benchamrks.What a stellar Job AMD did!! And of course what a Stellar Job Steve did.Thanks mate,appreciate the hard work!
Really fascinating to see how testing suite determines the winner. (Not accusing anyone of tomfoolery) Genuinely interesting how certain games used by various reviewers change the cpu who wins gaming. Good reminder to watch several trusted reviewers trying to find the actual games you play and how the cpus perform in that specific application.
There's definitely a strategy to being more expensive but best. People will have this in mind for the next year, and if the AMD parts go on sale then people will feel better about their purchase.
And I fully expect AMD to release XT versions of these CPUs with a slight clock speed increase to get them even closer to the "fabled" 5 GHz mark every1 seems to want, while also giving Intel's brand new Rocket Lake chips very little chance to reclaim the gaming performance crown. So even if RL is faster than CL it'd likely barely be enough faster to definitely retake the gaming performance crown. Only time will tell but for now AMD definitely deserves this win.
My brand new build upgraded from a 2600k to the 5950X, and a GTX 1080 SC to a RTX 3080(still waiting on this). So massive improvement so far, and total extacy when 3080 arives.
Look at third country retailers for it, since it is cheep and has a stock cooler, many third country order a lot of it, more than they could sell. If you don't mind the tax and the shipping cost. Heck you could even buy a tuf 3080 at 19.900.000vnd, a msrp which the 3080fe release
Amazing video as usual! The 5000 series chips are looking better now as everyone is benchmarking with similar results. I have a 2700x currently so this would be a massive leap for me. Especially as I have my eyes on a 6800XT
Stupid how they didn't allow reviews before launch. By the time we've watched this video all the CPUs will be sold. But since I bought a 3700x last year I probably shouldnt buy a new CPU yet anyway.
The AMD upgrade path is pretty amazing. I got a b450 board with a Ryzen 5 1600 and the same board now supports the 5950x. So 2-3 years down the line when the 5950x is half the price, gonna snatch it up. On a $70 Gigabyte board!
Forget Zen 3, the biggest launch of today is that we're now on Floatplane! www.floatplane.com/channel/HardwareUnboxed/
I just secured my Ryzen 5950X , should be here early next week 😈
When will the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero be released in Australia?
Hope best 4k ultrawide moniter in budget (Adobe RGB)😂 for digital artist video will come
Paper-plane launch?
Just subscribed on Floatplane!
AMD: Releases a new CPU on the same socket
INTEL: Releases the same CPU on a new socket
so fu..ING true
@Steps I think it's better than buying a new motherboard for every upgrade in intel side and it's okay to be a angry fanboiiiii
@Steps not everyone can upgrade more than one component at a time so I'm willing to live with a few bug until I can buy a new board
@Steps The only possible issues that could arise are power delivery issues, and if you have an X470 or even beefy B450 motherboard, you'll be fine
And my 2700X in my X470 mobo has about the same power draw as the 5950X, so I don't think I'm gonna have much of an issue there. Lol
Steve: "than 10900K... Intel's best mainstream desktop CPU"
Intel: You don't have to repeat that.
if you disregard the weird serious sam 4 bench, they still are
@@partyjerk The 10900K doesn't have access to Smart Access Memory. With SAM enabled, the 5950X gets another ~10% more performance, so it will crush Intel in almost all games.
@@partyjerk what about Death Stranding and Hitman 2?
@@IslamReazul Also lets not forget Horizon Zero dawn and most others also where it was a match. There were only a couple of games where Intel pulled ever so slightly ahead like Farcry and Rainbow. I know farcry also liked the Intel platform better and probably always will perform slightly better on Intel.
I am thinking the 5800x will be the sweet spot for gaming performance & I guess in a few days steve will let us know if true or not.
@@IslamReazul Indeed: three examples that prove game software & API optimization will actually _improve_ performance over time on the new hardware!
It's one thing the hear "19% IPC increase". It's a different thing to see "19% IPC increase". Wow. What a beast of a processor.
14:05 when a single generation update leads to 1% lows beating last gen's average. Holy shit!
will be interesting to see how much extra performance they get when paired with a 6800/6800xt/6900xt gpu, with that smart access memory
AMD themselves said 2-5%, so probably 1% that is only noticeable in games that are being bottlenecked by cpu only..
I would say it will probably enough to wipe out the 10900k lead in those games where it was ahead, since those margins were mostly small anyway. which is exactly the level of performance AMD claimed in their launch presentation. I cant remember which game it was but they showed the 10900 having a very small lead (2 or 4%) in a single game while the 5950x was ahead in everything else, and they were upfront about those results being achieved with smart access memory and RAGE MODE
basically, it looks like we have no reason to doubt those numbers
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ AMD said 2-5% on RAGE mode not SAM they already showed some games gain 12% with that technologie
@@youssefakenkar459 it was like game that had that high.ost were closer to 5.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ arent you thinking of rage mode? thats a GPU thing.
smart access memory is the cpu using the gpu memory or some shit, right?
Intel will soon be announcing their new CPU range:
"Too Little Too Lake"
"Boiling Lake", with a free AIO cooler
confusing because it looks like intel just has to make a 1fps average improvement across the board, maybe you have a hard time reading charts lmao
well they already have, new Re-fresh-Lake with PCIe4 on 14nm+++++++ is come in Q1 2021 in Intel launch style of last 7 years,
now that is not our headache,
no our headache will come in form of a blitz with Skylake or non-Skylake part on 10nm TSMC or 6nm TSMC process node around same time as Zen 4 launch on 5nm TSMC.
when Jim Keller left Intel, Bob Swan did shuffle the deck and it could be a long roadmap like AMD has been on.
also Jim's team will be reporting to Raja Koduri who oversee all of Intel architecture roadmap.
topkek :D
@@Fish4Joe so through out all the video the only thing you saw was the gaming chart wow
Just bought a 5600x. Excited to pair it with the 6800!
Wow lucky you.
why all the ryzen 5000 out of stock in newegg?????
@@re0.v Idk depends on where you live
You are going to wait for the rest of 2020 to build that rig. Ryzen 5000 and Radeon 6000 availablity is worse than Nvidia 3000 series.
@@Dr.WhetFarts I have a r5 5600x sitting right behind me. There was plenty of availability for the 5600x/5800x, but for such a huge release of course demand will outstrip supply to begin with. You cant expect to rock up 3 days late and get your hands on one immediately. The 3000 series release was/is a complete screw up from NVIDIA and are a direct result of poor supply chain management, the stock shortages on the 5000 processors are due to huge demand. Its like people forget that its not abnormal for new products to sell out. As for the 6000 series - it hasnt even released yet so lets wait and see. It will sell out but in terms of volume im sure there will be far more than the 3000 series shipped in the first month of release.
9:39 - holy shit this is actually impressive
Everything up to that point was already pretty nice, but at that moment, I actually said "Oh my god" out loud, too. On the same node, this is some serious engineering!
Man, with GPU hype, I almost forgot there were steamroller CPU's being released this year.
Ya, I'm way less excited for Zen 3 than RDNA2. Partly because I already have a 3700X that serves me well, but more so because the CPU market was already flush with great options while we've been starved of compelling new GPU releases since the 1080 Ti hit shelves almost 4 years ago.
@@DrearierSpider1 3700x is great but if anyone gets the 6000 series GPU then ryzen 5000 makes the most sense due to Smart Access Memory and its 19% ipc gains
@@arnabsaha8761 I also have a 3700X paired with a 5700XT and even though the improvements are great on both the new CPU and GPU fronts I still think it's too soon to upgrade, I might do it when they jump to 5nm.
@@arnabsaha8761 I mean obviously the newer products are faster than the old ones, and you should consider them if you're building new today. But my point is my 3700X already provides a very smooth gaming experience, and I don't see it being worth at least $300 to get rid of a part I bought a year ago to go from 120 fps to 180 fps.
@@DrearierSpider1 Yeah, as a normie gamer productivity guy, 3700x is capable of giving ~120fps in every title I play, so a GPU is the most valuable gain in my system.
coffin lake: intel inside ?
You should be arrested for murder LOOOOOOOL
@@clickstz8699 at this stage it was a mercy killing. 14nm+++++ had arthritis, dementia and running a high fever.
Salt lake
Salt lake : thesorrow312 inside
Cringe lake: amd fanboys inside
80 less watts than 10900X.
80, let that sink in
And then look at the performance again
Power consumption isn't really so important to everybody
@@timba1181 Correct. But getting better performance for less power just showcases how great the uarch is.
@@timba1181 well, when you get the same average performance, at lower clocks, and at 16 cores. That's a slap. And when we pair it with a 6800xt which will probably see a boost only on the 5000 series... Heheheh
@@timba1181 it's important in hot country like south east asia region.
@@timba1181 If your rig could already handle an i9, it isn't so important.
Though if you're building a new PC, you'd probably want the CPU that allows a cheaper PSU and simpler cooling. Either of these advantages could be leveraged to buy a smaller case or bigger graphics card where possible.
3:13 - Holy... that sag!
Seeing that made me die inside a little
yeah noticed that too and was about to post it, holy moly lol
Sagging for style. Looks cool
It’ll be alright
the camera angle is also crooked so it amplifies the effect
here we go, was waiting on it LOL
Alternative title: "Watch Intel get cuberbullied by AMD for 20 minutes"
They just now matched Intel's 10900k in gaming, and it costs almost $300 more... Sure, if you do a lot of 3D/design work, it's worth it. If you just want to game and do normal everyday tasks, the 10900k is still a much better buy, and now leaves the door open for Intel to come in with Rocket Lake and take the lead once again in gaming. I really wanted to see AMD take the gaming crown this year, but it doesn't look like this is quite it.
bluefrisky you can beat the 10900k in gaming with a 5600X... smells like a fanboy
@@xblur17 but what is your point? Intel still can't match a 2 year old hardware in productivity. See what I did there?
@@xblur17 They didn't just take the gaming crown. They destroyed Intel in gaming. If you want strictly gaming you can get a 5600x and still destroy the 10900k in gaming. That processor which beats the 10900k is only $300. That's better performance for 300 usd less.
@@Im_Ryan As I said, not a fanboy, just looking for the best gaming performer. The 5600x beats Intel in some Esports titles, but in heavy single player games the 10700/900k still seem very competitive. I'll likely still go with an AMD build because of SAM, coupled with a 6800xt. But thanks for being toxic for literally 0 reason!
Just picked up a 5900x this morning!!!! Waited in line from 6AM this morning and managed to get one! Already have it in hand 😁
I literally just came here to see if you've posted the review yet and BOOM, you just uploaded it 6 minutes ago!
no bell?
@@ademiravdic Unfortunately we can't Bell every channel we watch or else the bells THe BELLS WOULD DRIVE US MAAAAAD!!!!!!
I just bought my Ryzen 7 5800X, will arrive in couple of days. Man can’t wait to build my new gaming PC with the upcoming RX 6800 XT.
This is exactly what I'll do. Great work. What site were you able to get the CPU? It is sold out everywhere. Any strategies when 6800 xt comes out? :)
Damn I’m jealous 😐👍
@@Arda-dq4rt ppl are bashing amd for SMA but why not use it ? If you buy 6800xt get 5800/5900x for max performance...
@@pratyushsharma6655 Will get 5800x since I don't think 5900x justifies its extra 100 dollars for purely gaming workloads. 8 cores is enough for the next 6-7 years of AAA gaming.
Enjoy better than i7-10700K levels of perfomance 😎
ladies and gentlemen, this is the moment the world has been waiting for
YES! :D
@M Smithy um.. no?
@M Smithy How exactly? 😂
You mean the moment where AMD matched the 10900k in gaming for $300 more?
@@xblur17 but destroys it in all the rest. ( productivity , power draw , motherboard prices and upgrade possibilities ... )
If I had to guess, AMD's better SMT and multi-threaded abilities is why newer games like Death Stranding did so well. Which means all the new and updated game engines will probably do very well with the 5000 series.
I believe that the better SMT is mainly from the better IPC. More transistors = more benefit in trying to fully utilize them.
Dont forget that BOTH the PS and Xbox consoles have AMD hardware. So there will be more games coming out optimized for AMD instead of Intel and Nvidia. If AMD can succesfully make good drivers and their "super resolution" will actually be comparable to DLSS 2.0 then AMD is going to wipe the floor with everyone.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 that's it.
They already had more transistors in there than Intel, they made Zen3 even wider. That's more idle hardware for SMT to use so gains per thread should increase even more than previously.
@@MMOplayeerr that was also the case in the previous generation and it only helped AMD so much.
Nvidia really pushes developers to use Nvidia optimizations in PC games, they'll actually send a guy to help.
AMD needs to get in on this.
@@MMOplayeerr Will their Super Resolution really be a form of AI upscaling? I know they were trying to use their A-tier sharpening software to make dry upscaling look passable, but that can't upscale to 4K from 1080p like DLSS 2.0.
Either way, if you plan on buying a Ryzen 5000 processor there's no reason to not go with the stronger hardware, instead of banking on Nvidia developing passable DLSS 2.0 algorythms for all the games you want to play for as long as you plan to keep your GPU.
Intel: HEAVY BREATHING
Indeed
@@mayukaproject2427 Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
After the Ryzen 5 3600X review, Intel wil be on life support.
More like frantic, shallow breathing.
@@jayvee8502 idk. I was expecting a win in games. This doesn't feel like much of a win for a 800$ gaming cpu. Big disappointment
Ladies and Gentlemen, Here we have gathered to commemorate the death of Intel
RIP Comrade, You robbed us well for a decade.
LTT literally did this.
@Analyzing Male Slavery
If the performance could support the price increase then sure.
I mean isn't that how all things work? Like phones increase in price since it will be better than the previous one.
Race cars in F1 and other races.
As we are all gathered here please may we proceed with the ceremony :
*Dancing men with the coffin open the door*
@@notaname1750 Not how it works. Innovation increases price and competition reduces price. Without one of them, the consumer suffers.
hahahaha
I'm still damn awed at how much less power it consumed. HOW?!
Yes, and not even a new process node. That is very impressive.
It's simple 7 nm vs 14 nm, we could call it 7+ optimization.
@@FutureChaosTV They did something similar when they added two cores to the four-core Phenom II while dropping clocks less than 10% on average. Good stuff.
I don't understand either. But what bothers me is the difference between this chart compared to the Gamers Nexus one. Look at this video ruclips.net/video/72AHENDeTEI/видео.html (starting at 21:11). The 10900k is only consuming 8% more power than the 5950x stock to stock. Whereas in the Hadware unboxed video the 10900k is so much more power consuming (+33%) than the 5950x. What is going on ?
Maybe the raw numbers are understandably different due to methods of testing, but i suppose the percentage difference should remain the same ?? I'm just looking for an answer, if someone has it... :)
@@whisp9r365 GN Steve explains why in the first few seconds after your timestamp. I'll break it down.
It has to do with Intel's boosting behavior. For the first.... 56 seconds, I think? Intel allows more power to go to the CPU. That length of time is denoted by "tau", and an application going past that amount of time of continuous usage is called "tau expiry". GN Steve took that particular power number AFTER tau expiry, as he says, so the processor wasn't boosting as aggressively. I believe he also showed the 10900K power numbers before tau expiry as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyway, HU Steve took his power number before tau expiry in this video, and GN Steve's number for 10900K power draw before tau expiry should be very close to this number.
I hope that clears it up for you!
premium quality stuff again from Steve!
4:41 steve you are the real mvp for this
Holy $%/ AMD absolutely knocked it out of the park. Lower power consumption and those core performance numbers!
Just when I thought that the Ryzen 9 3950X was so good in performance-per-watt, the Ryzen 9 5950X punches through and beyond my imagination.
16 freaking cores decimate 10 cores Intel by miles and even surpasses their previous 16 cores. All while still using 7 nm that they used last year and bump the IPC and core clock.
*How is that possible?!*
and 250$ more to pay...
@@IgorBozoki1989 Yeah that is true. However, you have got to admire the performance-per-watt of the 5950X. That is way too good.
Also, just to nitpick, for an extra of $250, you are getting more cores. So, worth it I guess?
This is what happens when your company is lead by an actual engineer and understands the process. No pun intended.
6:40 Insane that a 5950x with only 16 cores is so close to the 60 core Intel Xeon though I know the clock is alot higher.
I used to sell more servers with Intel Xeons 3 years before, today quantity decreased, performance of single socket EPIC average hp server is just raping several units on intel hardware :)))
@@alexsiniov how does it look today? AMD still dominating?
@@GewelReal pretty much yes. X3D chips are better at gaming, high performance chips trade blows in productivity tasks 🤷♂️ As for server part, 7 out 10 servers are AMD according to my distributor data
@@alexsiniov good job AMD. Now Intel needs to come up with something good
Always love the blue bar graph,thanks steve
Sold out globally in less than 5 minutes. Oops.
There's still some available in the UK, but not the 5950x. 5800x, 5600x and limited 5900x
Still available in Denmark.
And they're gone
Portugal has 2 shops with it still
I managed to get one, but I'm just holding out for when people start blaming Nvidia for the no stock.... lol
My RUclips home page was absolutely filled with 5950X benchmark videos, I clicked on Hardware Unboxed first. Best PC tech channel on YT!
CC shows "Welcome back to Harvard Unboxed." Hahah
AMD taking Intel to school.
And here I am, up at 6am PST, refreshing amazon trying to buy a 5950x :(
same
My retailer sent me a mail on the 5900x, 50+ expected to be sent 2 desember :(
@Clorox Tree Wish I lived near a MC! Unfortunately, closest to a 'tech' store near me is BestBuy...
Don't feel bad. Newegg sold out of the 5900X & 5950X in less than a minute. I had to pre-order my 5950X from BHPhotovideo and it went from "Pre-order" to "Notify" in less than a minute after that too. 😬
when can we expect a 5600x benchmark?
That’s pretty much the first thing he talks about in the video 🤦♂️
ruclips.net/video/4paYpMOHYHk/видео.html
Do you think 5600x vs 3600 will make a difference for 4k 6o fps gaming?
@@MrTobiKay nooo but in 1080p Yessssssssssssss
@@MrTobiKay no check igors benchmark
So happy to see this, been waiting on it forever. Thanks Steve!
Damn....also congrats on getting on floatplane. I'm leaning more and more everyday towards that
Ryzen 9 parts seem absolutely worth it. Ryzen 5 & 7 SKUs are asking more than I'd pay for them, but the dominate performance is undeniable.
dominant
@@cbrunhaver Don't care.
The prices aren’t that bad considering every part in the line competes with Comet Lake parts a tier up, but I still don’t like them. A Ryzen 5 shouldn’t be $299, and a Ryzen 7 shouldn’t be $449. Here’s hoping the 5600 and 5700X are more reasonable.
Reinhardt Wilhelm yeah...r5 and r7 are way overpriced.
Amd knew noone gonna by "x" cpus in r5 and r7 series and thats why they got only them.
I hope they will bring 5700x and 5600 ....
But i am done waiting with my fx 6300. Time to upgrade to 3700x, and for couple of years some 5700x when time come...
@@reinhardtwilhelm5415 how is that overpriced?? ryzen 5 even better than i9 10900k in prodyctivity, check LTT
Would have liked to see some 1440p results. I selfishly want to compare Zen 3 with my Zen+ with my gaming needs, though I'm more looking at the 5600x or 5800x. Edit - Forgot to mention, great review as always.
Like a 2.5% diff from last gen 1440p is gpu bound
1080p is more CPU intensive than 1440p, so this will give you more of an idea of the uplift you’d get
And don´t forget that MT heavy online shooters like Warzone like MOAR GOARS;)
Every cpu is same speed in 1440p in most games...
@PewPewZee LawL you can't be serious right?
WOW, this really beat out Intel in some titles, I’m impressed ! I imagine 1440p results for the other CPU’s are gonna be good 😌
The 5900 should also perform slightly better with it's better single core performance.
5800X with single-CCX design tho
Unpopular opinion but AMD has a huge node advantage over intel, these CPUs should be destroying Intel in every game.
At the same wattage they would be. Intel has configured their designs to be able to pump up the current flow for clock speeds knowing they can't progress to smaller nodes. So the two are going in different directions and in some ways aren't quite comparable as you put it, with that understanding. 3000 & 5000 are on the same node, so the 5000 gain is quite impressive. I put that down to AMD knowing that TSMC yields are rather good, so they have been able to take a risk and design their silicon more connected knowing there won't be loss-cost hit.
It's about damned time, Steve!
Wow! Congrats to AMD for a great product, and another great review, thank you!
Really great review! Excellent work as always!
Only thing that was missing is maybe one or two 1440p benchmarks to see if scaling stays exactly the same ^^
I have not said "Wow!" when reading a benchmark video title in so long. I hope this is a good one.
Edit: Wow indeed. I hope we can see similar results from the other models.
With a title like Total Domination I am expecting great things from this CPU.
With a few exceptions in some applications I am not disappointed and my day is not ruined.
i think i might wait for the 3950's to get a discount and pick one up.
the extra money for the new series doesn't really look like it's worth it once a discount rolls in [for rendering]
You Can Get One For About $600 USD vs $800 USD
Totally worth to shave those minutes in client renders in blender ill deffo get the 5950x
@@dcd5050 if you can afford to wait that long fantastic. i have literally never seen one in stock or even heard of it. the price looks pretty brutal
What? Of course it's worth it.
@@fuzzjunky well i actually bought my 5950x 3 weeks ago. Its amazing im glad I bought it
I'm going to watch every tech reviewers videos but you guys first. You're video's have the most professional quality and you've told more then one company to "F" off. The amount of independent bench marks you guys run as well is staggering. I really appreciate the honest work you fellas do. Thank you.
Extremely impressive... Awesome work AMD
how is there 1k views already? i was refreshing the page every 5 seconds :P thanks for the review mate you guys are great
newly uploaded videos dont appear all around the world instantly. they go to the uploaders local RUclips servers (from where people can watch them) and then get propagated around RUclips's global server network. by the time it appears on your server, it might have been up for some minutes already somewhere else.
@@-yeme- ah makes sense
People use bots to buy GPUs and cpus... now Also the bots read review!
;)
dear hardware unboxed,
please reconsider and release the 5600x review
much love
I was waiting for this review for so goddamn long
I closed my online class the moment I saw this notification
Love your content guys
The dark hero has a fantastic features that switches between the OC mode and the normal boost mode above 45 watts of power. It also changes automatically with no reboot, just make sure to enable that on the BIOS.
Oh yeah, here we go!
Jakove izdrži!!
@@MarioAPN nije lako sa ovakvim rezultatima :D
@@riba2233 dobro je dobro, iskreno očekivao sam još bolje, al 20-30% u odnosu na 3950x je odlično.
@@MarioAPN ma super je ovo, 20% ipc, veci taktovi, latencije su kompletno drugi svijet, uglavnom super za jednu generaciju, pogotovo na istom procesu
Thanks! Are you going to try Microsoft Flight Simulator at a later date?
The built-in CC on RUclips translates "Hardware Unboxed" to "Harvard Unbox" 🤣
So glad to see my 3900X didn't get demolished lol. Holds up so well.
How's the thermals on your 3900x? Just curious, thinking about upgrading to 3900x instead of 5900x...
@@manuelhernandez2017 I have a 280mm beefy AIO (H115i pro) and it doesn't exceed 60C under full load with OC at 1.25V. Pretty cool and efficient chip IMO. Even my 2600 used to get to 60C (albeit with much more voltage (1.375) lol).
Lisa Su dug Intel's grave but Steve just filled it in.
5:28 - Holy spit. When AMD advertised top single-core performance, I was expecting like, realistically, maybe a jump to 5-10% better than the 10900K. Y'know, a mild performance boost over the 3000 series already nipping at Intel's heels. But this? Wow. Can't wait to see the rest of the video now.
EDIT: Ah, and we run again into what I'm assuming are architecture optimizations. Does better in these games, does worse in these, does about the same in these. But like... damn, the games it does better in, it does REALLY better in. Phew. From a perpetual second place gaming-wise to trading blows and even managing some knockdowns? That's ducking impressive, and nothing at all to sneeze at.
We have not seen the DDR4 gamer memory benchmarks yet (^_^)
DDR4 - 3400
DDR4 - 3600
DDR4 - 4000
@@N0N0111 LTT's benchmarks use 3600 Mhz memory and the Ryzen Chips paired with Nvidia 3000 series cards absolutely steam rolls the Intel CPUs!
@@Prithvidiamond Jup saw it. But HUB owns us a video for it :D
It's great you guys are now in floatplane.... I watch Linus, HUB, GN and UDF for the most part and all of you are there now ... also I kinda hate youtube, maybe soon I'll be both Patreon and floatplane!! Great work, probably somewhere along the line later on 2021 I'll be upgrading my new 3600 for a 5800X, waiting on your results but Linus benchmarks seem promising.
I feel like AMD deserves the extra $50. They have done well and deserve to buy something nice for Christmas.
Hmm new games seems to love these new ryzen architecture, especially sony titles damn
I am confused on the F1 2020 benchmark 11:21 and how these numbers compare to the results gamers nexus had. I know that there are different settings being used though I could be missing something obvious I don’t see how the 5950x could beat the 10900k in gamers nexus video at around 19:50 but it’s the other way around in this. I don’t think anybody is inherently wrong but I’m just curious and confused though this could all just be my misunderstanding.
He said it, he said harbor unboxed Pog
Nice work, keep the great work going
The title should be :”TOTAL AMDOMINATION”
They equalled a 10900k in gaming for 50% higher cost, a year after 10900k came out...
Is good, very good, but domination it is not.
@@conandude76 'equaled' 🤣
@@DrHeroe look at the average of 11 games graph....
@@conandude76 they're 20% faster on CPU bound games, I don't think that's equalling buddy
@@viniciusyugulis7278 In some games. In others, it's up to 20% slower.
Don't get me wrong, I totally feel amd is the better chip, but it's not gaming KING. Intel was gaming KING because they were faster in nearly all games, by significant margins, for a decade. That's not really the case here, is it?
Thank you amd. Very impressive stuff. Now im interested to see how their gpus do and vs intel with smart access memory
And finished the final thoughts. Can't wait for the 5900x and 5800x tests, might be much better bets to try and beat the 10900k :)
Intel i7-5960x/6950x were around $1000 at launch but AMD still to today is under that with innovation included.
The mobos for Intel HEDT were also *very* expensive whereas AMD has budget, quality boards.
"Out of stock" is the only thing I've seen on the web. Great review though. Cheers
It’s like in a game. AMD was grinding with Ryzen the last couple of years gaining exp and getting stronger and stronger! Now it butchered the final boss! RIP Intel!
So happy to see competition finally
Respect to AMD for not making a new unnecessary chipset like X670 that would be end of life as soon as AM5 comes out
🤔 Can't wait to see the 2pc set bonus, AMD 5k CPU and 6k GPU results.
All these Zen 3 reviews dropped the second my conference call started. Crying on mute RN😭...
stock is awol anyway. don' sweat it
@@fuzzjunky All processors are still in stock at the MicroCenter by me for the moment. I suppose I'm one of the lucky few near a MC though (I'm actually near 2).
@@fuzzjunky AWOL
Great review! Would've loved to see Microsoft flightsim 2020 included in the benchmarks like in the previous ones.
Nice Job, Great Review
This CPU is insane, especially when compared with the previous gen. I was a bit skeptical but now seeing the benchmarks you guys got I must concede that AMD´s engineers achieved an incredible feat with this series.
Yes, the are the best well rounded processors ever made in all fronts. Why a 10700K now (the best 8 core and 16 threads processor for now) if the 5800X is better?
AMD, better every year. Relentless, wow.
Hyped.. mine arrives tomorrow :D
I've never been so excited in my life to see Benchamrks.What a stellar Job AMD did!!
And of course what a Stellar Job Steve did.Thanks mate,appreciate the hard work!
Amd be like: I have left everyone behind even zen2.
"And all of these have been use achieved using the same old TSMS 7nm process."
Intel in the corner: Yeah, whatever
Oh snap. I came for the 5950X review. Ended up getting my future mobo review too. BONUS!
Really fascinating to see how testing suite determines the winner. (Not accusing anyone of tomfoolery) Genuinely interesting how certain games used by various reviewers change the cpu who wins gaming. Good reminder to watch several trusted reviewers trying to find the actual games you play and how the cpus perform in that specific application.
I guess you could say the frame rates be Ryzen.
The zen 3 price hike is because, amd can lower it when Intel launches 11gen, this will give amd a advantage for better price to performance. Smart
There's definitely a strategy to being more expensive but best. People will have this in mind for the next year, and if the AMD parts go on sale then people will feel better about their purchase.
And I fully expect AMD to release XT versions of these CPUs with a slight clock speed increase
to get them even closer to the "fabled" 5 GHz mark every1 seems to want,
while also giving Intel's brand new Rocket Lake chips very little chance to reclaim the gaming performance crown.
So even if RL is faster than CL it'd likely barely be enough faster to definitely retake the gaming performance crown.
Only time will tell but for now AMD definitely deserves this win.
My brand new build upgraded from a 2600k to the 5950X, and a GTX 1080 SC to a RTX 3080(still waiting on this). So massive improvement so far, and total extacy when 3080 arives.
These tests were performed with 3200mhz modules? I wonder what performance increase the recommended 4000mhz would see.
Can I get an F for intel?
F
So it's safe to say:
RIP Intel.
Well, Intel is safe for now cause there's not stock...
AMD has been digging grave for intel since 2017 and today they laid the tombstone.
Intel's been dead. This was the final nail in the coffin.
Still not yet. But now it is time to pull their socks up and start working harder.
Naah
Glad to hear HU join the LTT Floatplane
- Would be also nice to see the tests of the new AMD CPUs and GPUs in 1600p and 1800p resolutions)
One thing's for sure, no one could buy the R3 3300X in this lifetime 😂😂😂
Look at third country retailers for it, since it is cheep and has a stock cooler, many third country order a lot of it, more than they could sell. If you don't mind the tax and the shipping cost. Heck you could even buy a tuf 3080 at 19.900.000vnd, a msrp which the 3080fe release
I've only ever seen one. ONE! at the PC store I work at. We only got a handful of 3100 at least.
Probably it'll pop up in AliExpress a couple of years later.
The 5300X should be amazing.
There's something wrong with your graph, I saw Gamer Nexus charts that 5950X sweep all Intel processors yet here it's different. Hmm
"Welcome back to harvard unbox", man youtube really need to do something with the subtitles. This has been going for ages 😂😂😂
Amazing video as usual!
The 5000 series chips are looking better now as everyone is benchmarking with similar results. I have a 2700x currently so this would be a massive leap for me. Especially as I have my eyes on a 6800XT
Stupid how they didn't allow reviews before launch. By the time we've watched this video all the CPUs will be sold. But since I bought a 3700x last year I probably shouldnt buy a new CPU yet anyway.
No MSFS 2020? Bummer! It's the ultimate CPU make or brake these days...
That AM4 compatibility right back to the 1600 must be a dream for your marathon benchmarking.
The AMD upgrade path is pretty amazing. I got a b450 board with a Ryzen 5 1600 and the same board now supports the 5950x. So 2-3 years down the line when the 5950x is half the price, gonna snatch it up. On a $70 Gigabyte board!