Ryzen 5000 Undervolting with PBO2 - Absolutely Worth Doing

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  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech  3 года назад +554

    Slight correction - some users are seeing PBO2 available on B450 motherboards.
    Another update: It is available on some boards with AGESA 1.1.0.0, including my Crosshair VIII Impact. Just tested the Ryzen 5900X in my own system - it can do a negative offset of 25.

    • @ivchatov
      @ivchatov 3 года назад

      If you push the curve down far enough with this feature, does it result in lower idle temps?

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n 3 года назад

      @@ivchatov yes sure does. But if u push curve and leave 200mhz auto oc on you may have to increase (from -30 or -20) curve to persay -12

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n 3 года назад +2

      @@ivchatov with auto no curve 200mhz auto oc max voltage is 1.45/48v on b550 gaming edge wifi, and it's x570 counter. With 200mhz auto oc + -12 curve max voltage (with 4.85ghz all core) is 1.41v.... temps will go crazy without pbo and limiting edc etc. He didn't touch this bc it's different for EVERY chip say, 10 5600x not one will have the same pbo limitations. (All is auto, no manual voltage sets other than 4000mhz 2000fclk to ram, and 1.45v on my dram voltage. No static oc to the processor. Am able to run 3200c14 sticks of tforce dark pro at 16,15,15,15,32,38 with tight subs an secondary timings. (Wasn't asked about but these chips from what I've seen are all doing 2000fclk oc. Even on e die kits (worst ram die to date.)

    • @turskaparoni
      @turskaparoni 3 года назад +6

      I have B450 Tomahawk Max with AGESA 1.1.0.0 Patch D. Running 5600X PBO2 enabled.

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n 3 года назад +2

      @@turskaparoni yep, curve works as I stated. It's under advanced on msi boards inside amd overclocking

  • @asmspec3018
    @asmspec3018 3 года назад +369

    Ali... it's 6am and I shouldn't be doing a BIOS update and tuning an undervolt... but here I am doing a BIOS update and tuning an undervolt.

  • @speed33169
    @speed33169 2 года назад +131

    MY Ryzen 7 5800x with a -30 offset: Novabench showed a jump from 4.68 to 4.83 GHZ and an overall score increase from 4195 to 4245. CPU runs 12c lower at idle and roughly 8 - 10c lower under load. Great information and a real worthwhile tweak for 5000 series users.

    • @SkillerWolfCFM
      @SkillerWolfCFM Год назад

      thank you and also you seem to be lucky as Im hitting 4.7-4.75 GHz at maximum in cinebench and even drops slightly under 4.7 GHz because it reaches around 80-82 degrees. Im using Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360

    • @Movierecap998
      @Movierecap998 11 месяцев назад

      What settings you used?

    • @5erase
      @5erase 10 месяцев назад +5

      Starfield is wrecking my temps, 89c on the CPU while playing the game so here I am trying to undervolt my 5800x

    • @Movierecap998
      @Movierecap998 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@5erase how is your airflow and what cpu cooler you use

    • @dirtybeak9598
      @dirtybeak9598 3 месяца назад +1

      what is your idle temp? I have the same cpu is sitting at 45C with firefox open.

  • @illuminape7632
    @illuminape7632 4 месяца назад +8

    I appreciate that your video isnt full of filler stammering, um's, uh's, redundantly repeating yourself here and there, very straight forward, to the point. Im so glad i found your channel, you got a subscribe from me.

  • @carlos-ferreira
    @carlos-ferreira 3 года назад +1999

    Finally a guide by someone that really know whats he is doing.

    • @billedwardz
      @billedwardz 3 года назад +267

      I'll probably sound like a dick but I just find this comment funny since the last time he uploaded an undervolting video he had to take it down because of the massive amount of misinformation.

    • @silverreaps6803
      @silverreaps6803 3 года назад +56

      @@billedwardz thats kinda funny

    • @dominickdupuy7891
      @dominickdupuy7891 3 года назад +14

      He pressed a cpu down after installing it in the video

    • @jirihorsky9600
      @jirihorsky9600 3 года назад

      @@billedwardz Which video was that?

    • @SkilllessFlorid3r
      @SkilllessFlorid3r 3 года назад +47

      @@billedwardz But you have to mention that at the 3000 Ryzen release undervolting was completely broken.
      He was one of the first who discovered that, after a day the video was offline and he made a video what was wrong with undervolting. From then on everybody knew you have to performance verify core clocks even on CPUs.

  • @speedibusrex
    @speedibusrex 3 года назад +535

    One of the best tech channels on YT.

    • @Dionyzos
      @Dionyzos 3 года назад +25

      Definitely, he doesn’t sound like he wants to sell us something in order to grow his audience but really cares about delivering the best content possible.

    • @mcvit
      @mcvit 3 года назад +2

      I remember the time when subscriptions were around 3.000, that was around when i joined. He defenitly earned it.

    • @awesomesaucer4128
      @awesomesaucer4128 3 года назад

      I concur

    • @manhealme
      @manhealme 3 года назад

      @Dr Doom Skywalker yea your list is basically the same as me dude

    • @andyp123456
      @andyp123456 3 года назад

      I started watching the channel a year or two ago because I was interested in SFF builds, and Optimum Tech has the best SFF videos by far. I don't know if he has hired more people to help as the channel has grown, but even when it started, the lighting, editing, presentation and of course, the information presented were all on point, and yes, not putting his face (or biceps) in the thumbnail or using clickbait words in the title is worth some extra respect.

  • @Luke-fx9gw
    @Luke-fx9gw 3 года назад +432

    5600x user here. Wasn't able to apply -30 to my chip without introducing instability in games soI dialed it back to -25 and it's been rock solid now for nearly a month both in games, when idle and during stress tests . My temps dropped by 10c and my multi core cinebench scores went up by roughly 200 points! Incredible

    • @f-22raptor25
      @f-22raptor25 3 года назад +3

      What was your stock voltage at

    • @fastboy32
      @fastboy32 2 года назад +2

      What's your voltage at???

    • @smokey_mk2
      @smokey_mk2 2 года назад +1

      Did you overclock it?

    • @SouvikAhmed
      @SouvikAhmed 2 года назад +36

      5600x user here as well. I did a -20 on the curve optimizer and my core clock and scores on R20 went up. There was also a 5 degree celsius drop in temperature under max load.

    • @fastboy32
      @fastboy32 2 года назад +3

      @@SouvikAhmed thanks for the info

  • @asadianbelifont3875
    @asadianbelifont3875 3 года назад +557

    With a negative offset of 30 this literally reduced core temps by 15 degrees while maintaining a higher clock speed, no joke. Any spike in load would cause my 5900x to jet up to 70-80 degrees on a 360mm aio, after applying this, that temp is around 55. Insane!

    • @ibrahimturan28
      @ibrahimturan28 Год назад +34

      Mine was 70-80 and I had 2 times bleu screen. After this video my 5600x cpu temp stays at 60-70.

    • @JoshMustillo
      @JoshMustillo Год назад +10

      Nice! Yeah I was pretty shocked when I upgraded to a 5950X, when launching programs it would jump to 70 degrees, basically opening chrome would have higher temp then a benchmark. Going to try this negative offset today see how we go!

    • @MrEcho419
      @MrEcho419 Год назад +2

      holy shit man thats awesome!

    • @bogpan
      @bogpan Год назад

      @@ibrahimturan28 What about 100% load?

    • @ibrahimturan28
      @ibrahimturan28 Год назад

      @@bogpan after my cpu froze i changed my cooler to scythe version c.
      I have now problem with screen freeze ingame. But the temps stay 39 to 50 max i think

  • @nayanpitlam5621
    @nayanpitlam5621 3 года назад +6

    I was waiting a long time for your video on this
    Thanks a lot Ali !!

  • @MrPiousjew
    @MrPiousjew 3 года назад +303

    easily the best ryzen undervolting guide I've seen, amazing content as always!

    • @Grena567
      @Grena567 3 года назад +18

      Stability isnt tested properly at all though in this video, the most important thing is testing at very LOW loads. These very low loads crash the system. How Ali does it in this vid, your pc will crash randomly while browsing or at the desktop.

    • @Helicrom
      @Helicrom 2 года назад +3

      @@Grena567 yep, my 5600x was crashing randomly at desktop or in game lobby even at -15 or -20.

    • @priiintplayzz6219
      @priiintplayzz6219 2 года назад +2

      @@Helicrom what did you overcome the crashing ? What did you put for the pbo settings ?

    • @KarimTemple
      @KarimTemple 2 года назад +10

      @@priiintplayzz6219 What I did, in short, was to go to per-core instead of all-cores. I'm doing -20 on 4 of the cores and -10 on the two cores that Windows seems to like the best (in my case, Cores 0 and 1 on my 5600X, checked using Ryzen Master). Idle testing consisted of doing nothing but leaving my PC on (running no active apps or tests), which I always do anyway. I probably could've gone back and pushed some cores to -25 or even -30 but I got bored.

    • @vacb
      @vacb 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@KarimTemple thanks for this my pc kept crashing

  • @JFinns
    @JFinns Год назад +9

    Thanks for the bios walkthrough of PBO2. My 2 year old 5800X saved 20 watts of package power with much lower thermals, while still scoring 3% higher on Cinebench at 15,750. Wish I did this sooner.

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 2 года назад +14

    Thank you for this brilliant straight forward guide. I just got the 5600X and hope to run it cool, rather than max out the OC, this guide's perfect for my needs.

  • @e_Moses
    @e_Moses 3 года назад +572

    You went over the most important part of all of this in the video which is stability testing. The main issue that I found while trying out the curve optimiser is that even though you can test it each core individually or all cores at the same time with different stress testing programs this will can only guarantee stability during intensive workloads. Most of my crashes that I faced were while the PC was idling. I haven't found a consistent way of testing this aspect of the curve optimiser. I have checked reddit posts and different forums and I've seen people complaining about the same issue. The PC can be stable while running prime95 all night but it will crash while you just browse the web. I propose you do a followup video after you use the system for at least one week with the settings you showed and then report if the system was actually stable. Maybe even make a video that covers stability testing.

    • @Butanding
      @Butanding 3 года назад +37

      My PC with a 5900x gets a blue screen at -27 while doing nothing.

    • @e_Moses
      @e_Moses 3 года назад +50

      @RubiiX It doesn't test idle stability. I have tried running prime95, occt, cinebench for multiple hours and I can still just crash on the desktop while not doing much.

    • @Justathought81
      @Justathought81 3 года назад

      @RubiiX how do you set cinebench up to run for 30 mins ?

    • @Justathought81
      @Justathought81 3 года назад

      @RubiiX got it, is there any way to do similar in R15 tho?

    • @nicholash8021
      @nicholash8021 3 года назад +43

      At idle you're at the bottom of the curve and that voltage may be too low. Maybe there is minimum voltage setting to compensate while still being able to take advantage of the curve optimizer for higher voltage/frequencies.

  • @thedofflin
    @thedofflin 3 года назад +462

    Yeah this is brilliant and seems like something a lot of proud overclockers would completely miss. After undervolting my 5600x by the max amount, and undervolting RTX 3080 to 0.85V @ 1875MHz I use a maximum of like 300-350W when playing games, not a single hitch. Crazy stuff. Combine that with Noctua cooler and case fans and my PC is almost dead quiet at full load, and generates a lot less heat.
    Undervolting all the way. So much more satisfying to have a highly efficient PC, rather than raging inferno just for a few more fps.

    • @maliikac95
      @maliikac95 2 года назад +6

      same with rtx 2070s and same cpu shaved of 10/18 c in most game under load wh3 warzone and rest crazy stuff

    • @SpiderpigThe
      @SpiderpigThe 2 года назад +6

      What is your settings for 5600x?

    • @bootchoo96
      @bootchoo96 Год назад +3

      Damn, my 3080 is 0.95v @ 1950Mhz and I can't go lower or I crash

    • @maliikac95
      @maliikac95 Год назад +1

      @@SpiderpigThe turn of pbo that is all how i see lie, so much voltage and temp for nothing , just overclock manualy if you want i get it on 1.2v 4.5ghz under loads it get around 63-65 c with aio.

    • @ionutortian5885
      @ionutortian5885 Год назад

      what value did you put -30 for all core or?

  • @ripleyhrgiger4669
    @ripleyhrgiger4669 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video! Your instructions are clear, well explained, and to the point without skipping important information. Subscribed!

  • @user-fo1nk3pd1t
    @user-fo1nk3pd1t 2 года назад

    I love how concise and clear this was to understand. Thanks!

  • @SocramZ
    @SocramZ 3 года назад +14

    Amazing stuff. Now we need an Undervolt vs Overclock comparison. Would be the ultimate video!

    • @bumboclat
      @bumboclat 2 года назад +1

      Curve optimizer does both, there is no versus situation here

  • @evanlamer2194
    @evanlamer2194 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for clearing this up. Great stuff man really appreciate this one!

  • @LegitChillin420
    @LegitChillin420 2 года назад +28

    Amazing, can't believe I've slept on this extra performance for a year 🤣 got my 5900x paired with a msi b450m gaming plus motherboard running pbo 2 with curve optimizer at negative 25 with auto oc set to +200, Getting identical temps as before with 3-400 mhz improvement in clock speeds in single threaded workloads and in cinebench r23 multi core test it holds a solid 4.6ghz all cores. Thanks for this video! Highly appreciated!

    • @deepak00singh34
      @deepak00singh34 4 месяца назад +1

      Is that 5900x working fine with msi b450m gaming plus. That motherboard is cheap for 5900x. I'm also thinking to buy 5800x for my msi b450m m2 pro max. My motherboard is almost same price. When it available.

    • @LegitChillin420
      @LegitChillin420 4 месяца назад

      @@deepak00singh34it's still going strong!

    • @AllenMontenegro
      @AllenMontenegro 4 месяца назад

      I have a 5900x and gigabyte b450 pro wifi. It's doable. @@deepak00singh34

  • @paulm2518
    @paulm2518 Год назад +51

    This video still adding value. Just turned PBO2 on negative curve like the video suggests, managed to attain -30 first time. Can see all cores under 100% load hitting 4.3Ghz sustained with a vcore of 1.1875. Max temps were 66C on a 240 aio on a SFF case. Really cool, entire thing is a lot quieter now. Thank you!

    • @no-pz7xy
      @no-pz7xy Год назад +3

      hey, that's awesome! what cpu? you can also see what you can do with PBO and CO in ryzen master. I get 66C under load on a 5900x hitting 4.6 all core.
      just let ryzen master auto CO all core for about an hour and you will get up to 28 depending on your cpu 30 all core is just not for everyone.

  • @harishannamalai8669
    @harishannamalai8669 3 года назад +77

    The thumbnail of this video was more dope than what AMD themselves could do.
    The content was great too!

  • @SHOEB289
    @SHOEB289 3 года назад +4

    Enjoying the content VERY MUCH 😊😊 ALI!!

  • @MrBigAudi
    @MrBigAudi Год назад

    Dude, every video you put out is well made, and it is also useful. Exceptional work.

  • @techluvin7691
    @techluvin7691 Год назад

    Simple, yet effective explanation. Good job. Best explanation I’ve seen with little useless information.

  • @vintage0x
    @vintage0x 3 года назад +13

    this is a great channel for a) SFF pc builds and b) undervolting your shit. love you ali!

  • @misiekki
    @misiekki 3 года назад +18

    Hi Ali! Quick question. What software are you using to create temperature, frequency and all other amazing charts? :)

  • @bradyb2233
    @bradyb2233 2 года назад +4

    Bro I literally just copy and pasted this into my bios, and it literally worked first try. I have a 5800x. Went from 4,499 MHz to 4600 MHz and it went from 87c max to 85c. This is insanely easy and insanely effective. I’m for sure subbing for this video. So easy to follow

  • @nicholash8021
    @nicholash8021 3 года назад +15

    Very helpful video. With my 5600x I didn't try this but had pretty good results with a PBO of 200MHz. The same setting didn't help my 5900x much, but this -30 offset worked like a charm. My Passmark rating single thread went from ~3500 to 3670 and my overall CPU rating went from ~40000 to ~42500.

  • @Squinoogle
    @Squinoogle 3 года назад +35

    Absolutely spot on! This is a feature that is truly worthy of a "finally" :o But still, Curve Optimizer seems like a solution to a problem that shouldn't really exist.
    I got impatient trying to get a hold of a 5000 series and went for a good deal on a 3800XT, and I've been playing around trying to tame the ridiculous voltage it uses at default. PB does a good job of clocking up, but shoots itself in the foot with the voltage. Temperatures aren't an issue, as my loop is complete overkill, but it keeps sending CPU power into the red. PBO aactually gives worse performance, as, for some reason, it boosts 100MHz lower than default. Auto-overclocking is pointless for the same reasons, there's no point in raising the limits if it isn't hitting any of them.
    Then, I fell into the same trap as the 1V guy, "lets stick an ofset on and see what happens." I dialed in 250mV and it was looking good: immediately dropped 20W from CPU, clocks boosted better than ever. Then R23 finished and only gave 10k, instead of 12k... After a few more runs, I noticed the Core VID was higher than it should be, and HWiNFO64 was showing the "Effective Clock" as only about 3600MHz, even though the "Clock" was a good 4500/4600ish. Clearly the motherboard's idea of "Core Voltage" is different to AMD's.
    Dialing in a fixed frequency and voltage still seems like the only way to go for 3000 series. I've dialed in 4200MHz at 1.2V and it seems happy enough. Lots of tweaking still to be done, though.

  • @roberthelcher2884
    @roberthelcher2884 3 года назад +3

    I am looking forward to trying this on my 5900x when it finally comes in. Thanks again for the great content.

  • @ronnie3626
    @ronnie3626 3 года назад +15

    i am really impressed with the quality you deliver and how clearly you explain everything! Definitely one of the best tech channels (also for mini itx build and in general)! Thank you so much for all your efforts!
    EDIT: corrected typo

    • @DogeFrom2014
      @DogeFrom2014 Год назад

      It's no wonder this video has over 750K views

    • @ronnie3626
      @ronnie3626 Год назад

      @@DogeFrom2014 best name haha

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Год назад

      hm the second one are the true second place imo, theyre far from rest but far from gr7 as well, sound identical to the creative
      prob the only true 'gift' from manufacturer lol they just gave wo any effort, used them well before 'recall'

  • @steelfalconx2000
    @steelfalconx2000 9 месяцев назад

    Man this channel is super underrated. What great content.

  • @belema22
    @belema22 3 года назад +121

    Absolute champ, I've watched almost every video and learnt so much from you! You walked me through my NZXT H1 build, undervolting my 5700XT, justified my already purchased EVGA 3060ti XC and now this. 🙂

    • @subrezon
      @subrezon 3 года назад +21

      Why would you replace a 5700XT with a 3060 Ti? I'm not bashing or hating, it just genuinely interests me. Those two aren't too far apart in terms of performance, or at least not enough apart to justify spending $400+. Or have you sold/found another use for the 5700XT?

    • @luca1s
      @luca1s 3 года назад +2

      @@subrezon probably sold it or got rid of it, maybe cuz of driver issues?

    • @ahmad.dx1115
      @ahmad.dx1115 3 года назад +3

      @@subrezon in my opinion, definitely for RTX😭.

    • @belema22
      @belema22 3 года назад +1

      @@subrezon @Subrezon yeah that's a good question. I video edit and I wanted to try try an Nvidia card for the GPU accelaration and I have to say it's been a pretty good. I game as well and I'm planning to use the 5700XT and my 3600 from my H1 in my new HTPC. What's interrsting though is in Australia, my gaming OC 5700XT is going for 550 - 600 on ebay and I bought it for 670! Tempted to sell it...

    • @bobtyler8374
      @bobtyler8374 3 года назад +2

      @@subrezon In my expericence the 5700xt drivers are just garbage and slipping over to the 3060ti is reasonable, especially when u can take advantage of tay tracing

  • @10GreenDragon10
    @10GreenDragon10 3 года назад +4

    The perfect video I was waiting for as I'm using a MSI X570 board, thanks!

  • @chrisb2153
    @chrisb2153 3 года назад

    that bed track was grooving. Great vid too! just about to build my 5950x system

  • @idiot06
    @idiot06 2 года назад +5

    This has been a great guide helped me understand pbo and curve optimiser with my very first amd system i've ever built, came from a 9900k to a 5950x and mainly use my rig for gaming and have seen it do anywhere between 4750mhz to 4800mhz on majority of the cores, I am currently playing at 1440p and soon to be either 1440p ultrawide or 4k. Temps are a little higher in games and power compared to an all core clock at 4.6 but for the gained 200mhz they haven't gone up much, custom loop with liquid metal, open air test bench at the moment with the Evga X570 Dark until i get everything for the case i'm putting it in, ambient temperature varies between 14 degrees C and 24 as here in South East Queensland Australia it's getting towards winter. Thanks again Optimus Tech this video extremely helpful for someone just starting out with Ryzen :)

  • @kyesniper
    @kyesniper 3 года назад +4

    Best guide so far, appreciate you mention the actual agesa version required. Don't think my board currently supports this as of yet so I've left the 5950x stock. Gets far too hot with PBO.

  • @bengordon2330
    @bengordon2330 3 года назад +15

    Thank you ! I tried on my 5800x, honestly, I had minor issues and higher temps than using stock, but maybe down the line some tweaking will happen

  • @albiss1164
    @albiss1164 3 года назад +2

    WOW !!!
    Thank you very much for sharing this. And you did a very good job at clearly explaining and making it easy to understand, with no nonsense.
    The overclock may not be huge, but the temperature drop is significant.
    Can't wait to give this a try :)

  • @marvin8291
    @marvin8291 Год назад +2

    My 5900x with a negative offset of 12 works stable at around 77°C in Cinebench. Before that I got peaks on some cores to almost 90. Thank you so much! Trying to get a bit lower for even more efficiency.

  • @towb0at
    @towb0at 3 года назад +50

    This is really nice! This should be a feature where you can essentially do this with the push of a button. Imagine an
    optimized CPU profile that automatically undervolts with PBO2. Just like the XMP profile, you would just set it once and then forget about it.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 2 года назад +13

      This used to be a thing computers had back in the 80s and 90s,a "turbo" button right on the front of the case,which sounds like it would make it go faster but was actually to slow it down because the regular speed was too fast for older software to work right.

  • @Studijko
    @Studijko 3 года назад +42

    B450 also supported! Works great with Asus b450m tuf beta bios with agesa 1.2.0.0 and ryzen 5600x. With a value of -20 I get stable improvement of about 5%. Value of -30 not stable though. You can find the setting in Advanced / Amd overclocking / PBO / Curve optimiser

  • @francescob.3019
    @francescob.3019 3 года назад +1

    just bought one. Thanks for this video!

  • @kivanctatar
    @kivanctatar 3 года назад +1

    Hey, one quick question: What do you use to record your sensor data during your tests? HWINFO or anything else?

  • @bvbbolle
    @bvbbolle 3 года назад +34

    Nice, tried it out on 5950x, the -12 same as the video. 3Dmark score went up a bit, boost clock made it to 5053 instead of 5040, and slighty lower thermals and power draw. Nothing major but certainly a nice improvement. Thanks!

    • @Walhor
      @Walhor Год назад +1

      Has there been any stability issues or anything since then?

  • @ibaneez1
    @ibaneez1 3 года назад +10

    Still running a undervolted I7-7700k after watching your video. Helped a ton! Also undervolting my 3060 ti.
    Love your videos!

    • @userworx
      @userworx 3 года назад

      Hey, help with guide for undervolted i7700k. Thanks :)

    • @ibaneez1
      @ibaneez1 3 года назад

      @@userworx Look up his video named "Should You Undervolt Your CPU?". It's not a guide, but gives you some estimates for what you can expect. Every CPU behaves differently. Silicone lottery.

    • @saimamerzougui7981
      @saimamerzougui7981 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Y7Za2aq2X9E/видео.html

  • @user-nu9iz7oc4c
    @user-nu9iz7oc4c 2 года назад

    Very well narrated and explained. Many thanks!!!

  • @ThaLoinKing
    @ThaLoinKing Год назад

    I needed this ! Thanks so much bro, you for sure know what ur doing

  • @hughw.
    @hughw. 3 года назад +30

    This guy is excellent! Composure, kind, knowledgeable, in formed, unbiased and very helpful.👍🥇

  • @weblurker-stuffifoundonthe6208
    @weblurker-stuffifoundonthe6208 3 года назад +39

    Man I love how power efficient ryzens performance is

    • @SaltyMaud
      @SaltyMaud 3 года назад +3

      Zen 3 is pretty nice in all regards. Though at this point i'm already looking forward to alder lake and the implementation of big.LITTLE on a desktop x86 CPU, that should be interesting.

    • @monkfishy6348
      @monkfishy6348 3 года назад +2

      @@SaltyMaud It'll be shit. The only reason they are doing it is so they can claim to have X amount of Cores in their marketing, when in reality half the cores will be garbage and won't have hyperthreading, because they can't squeeze any more "real" cores onto their 14nm process.

    • @SaltyMaud
      @SaltyMaud 3 года назад +3

      ​@@monkfishy6348 Well, it sounds pretty good to me. It's a pretty smart compromise, having a limited number of high performance cores allows, in theory, you to push more speed out of them within thermal and power limitations. Additional LP cores benefit efficiency in light use and you can think the additional threads they provide for thread hungry applications as a free bonus. Best of all worlds. No compromises on single thread performance, improved efficiency, additional threads without bloating the power envelope. It's not a novel idea, it's about time it was utilized in desktop CPUs. How it turns out in practice remains to be seen, but the way i see it, this has the potential to be the greatest paradigm shift since the introduction of multicore CPUs.
      For huge CPU farm applications and the people who legitimately have good use for the xeons and threadrippers, this may not be it. But for the majority of consumers this is very interesting indeed.

  • @Mikhavoc
    @Mikhavoc Месяц назад

    i've come back to this video about five times as i've swapped mobos/updated bios. thanks very much for this one mate

  • @tcares20
    @tcares20 2 года назад +10

    I had to adjust my fan curves to account for lower cpu temps for my build because the undervolt worked too well and my GPU wasn’t getting enough air. So yeah, it’s definitely worth

    • @user-dk4yz6lf9m
      @user-dk4yz6lf9m 6 месяцев назад

      I wouldn‘t use Cpu Temp to Regulate case fans. There are several programd to use gpu temp to lower or boost up case fans

  • @zaidyounas1602
    @zaidyounas1602 3 года назад +5

    Simple, concise yet effective explanation which actually works in real life. Best channel ever

  • @theodorthiele
    @theodorthiele 3 года назад +26

    Hey, thanks for this guide. I've been looking at some other guides too, and found some different / other approaches, but yours netted the best results it seemed. My main concern which was highlighted by some people on these undervolt tweaks, is stability at low workloads (low speed, low core use, low voltage). Apparently when undervolting using the PBO2 the issue is not so much staying stable at high workloads whether single or multi-threaded, but the other end where e.g. a -30 might cause instability. The issue is that I haven't been able to find a solid way of testing this kind of stability - I did see some mention of using the windows repair flow, but that's quite a hassle to trigger, and I'm uncertain if it's ensuring full stability. Did you find a good way of testing low load stability?
    In addition, a lot of other users took a different approach where the set PBO limits to motherboard, then set a boost override (+200 ish), and then apply negative values per core, with the lower values being on the two best performing cores, and a much less aggressive undervolt on all the other cores (I think something like -15 on best cores and -5 on other cores on a 59000x).
    Did you try anything like that too? I guess some of the temp benefits are lost.
    For now I'll go with your approach unless I run into any sort of instability - but would love to hear whether you tried some of these approaches that most other people seemed to take, and whether they'd change your recommendations.
    This guide seems to fit the "typical" approach I've seen other places: www.anandtech.com/show/16267/amd-precision-boost-overdrive-2-adaptive-undervolting-for-ryzen-5000-coming-soon

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 Год назад

      This is the first guide that said to disable PBO which confused me but I've seen lots of good comments so I'll try it now.

  • @fabog.5575
    @fabog.5575 Год назад +1

    Thx for this video... I was desperate to handle the temperature although I have a msi 360 AIO... Glad I have seen this video.... Now running about rock solid 80 degrees

  • @Natedaskate
    @Natedaskate 3 года назад

    Mate, took me 3 months waiting but my 5900X finally arrived from PCCaseGear. It’s a hot CPU. I have 2 x EK Coolstream 360 XE rads with Vardar fans cooling the 5900X and a RTX3090. GPU idles at 23 and max of 50-52 at full load.
    The 5900X idled at about 40 and max of 75 in Aida64 for an hour. Not maxed but still very warm for such a cooling loop.
    I used your exact settings in my MSI Bios and I get higher clocks, less max power draw, and max temps of 61 degrees. Idle is still warm but max is great now.
    You’re a legend. I love you videos. Wish I had the patience and skill to make the builds you do. Thanks for all you do 👍🏻

  • @werther5952
    @werther5952 3 года назад +22

    Just casually sprinkling 3080 FEs all over the place for window dressing. We've all been flexed on

  • @thacrunch7094
    @thacrunch7094 3 года назад +3

    I love the content! Keep it up!

  • @Dmitrinr
    @Dmitrinr Год назад +1

    Thanks you for this video! I was getting extremely high temps with my 5700x with ambient temperature of around 27c, after setting an undervolt of -.1,5 it went from that to 69c under full load

  • @nubsandbolts920
    @nubsandbolts920 2 года назад

    My G. Thank you for simplying this for me for now. I just finished my build and got a free upgrade from a Ryzen 7 5800 X to a 9 5950x. Yes my multicore performance increase was obv. amazing though single core score not as much.(as it could be). I have 4 cores peaking at 4.999 @ 38.4-72C (warm day). I may have only gained a slight 0.45 MP Ratio in Cin3R23 with my 4 cores now hitting 5049 MHz but my thermals are no longer touching 67c under load.
    This is a great stopgap so I can move the F on until I can learn more.

  • @vollegaming8818
    @vollegaming8818 3 года назад +3

    great vid. did the underclocking. just what i need :D

  • @Dogwater420
    @Dogwater420 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for this amazing Video! Although im very interested in Just overclocking with PBO2, without undervolting aswell, does anyone know good recources on that? Cheers

  • @theentity6000
    @theentity6000 2 года назад

    probably the best tip I've ever got regarding my processor...high performance without any drawbacks... literally free performance...thanks a lot mate!

  • @AB-jt6ic
    @AB-jt6ic 3 года назад

    Thank you for posting this! I'm trying to get my new 5950 dialed in, and it's been quite a few years since I've upgraded...

  • @copypaste3526
    @copypaste3526 3 года назад +3

    I am finding the Auto OC option in Ryzen Master pretty sweet for baking with flip fluids. Only a bit salty that I was too late for a 5900x instead of the 5800x.

  • @BAdventures
    @BAdventures 3 года назад +3

    Outstanding tutorial and report. Appreciate you making such a polished presentation. 👍
    PS 5800X owners have reported overheating issues. That CPU would probably benefit most from this.

  • @mirage8753
    @mirage8753 2 года назад

    your graphs looks cool, very nice color selection

  • @giorgos1996PC
    @giorgos1996PC Год назад +1

    Just did that with my 5700x and an AsRock B450 fatality k4 gaming motherboard (ofc updated bios ) thanks amd asrock for the support, got that motherboard through 3cpus.And ofc thank u for your helpful video dude u rock,your graphs your quality in videos everything are top notch.Greetings from Greece buddy.

  • @richard343s
    @richard343s 3 года назад +6

    It would be interesting to see a comparison of PBO2 vs. PBO2 + Undervolt

  • @peinall6964
    @peinall6964 Год назад +3

    Got My Ryzen 5 5600x 2 months ago and Man i loved it ! And soon after i came across this video i tried it and i got +300 Points in cinebench r20 and better cooling . Thank you for this amazing video and love your content bro

  • @bryanaustin8362
    @bryanaustin8362 3 года назад +1

    Good to show people your ambient room temp, this is always forgotten when people compare results.

  • @sirius6beta
    @sirius6beta 3 года назад

    Well done, good job - appreciated and will be recommended.

  • @gamingscreen12
    @gamingscreen12 3 года назад +4

    Best PBO2 tutorial I've ever seen. Thank you.

  • @thomsen48
    @thomsen48 3 года назад +4

    Great video, thanks! You deserve more attention, so here's a comment and a like. :)

  • @pashnyovv
    @pashnyovv 3 года назад

    Thank you, I need to find time and test it on my system

  • @stormchaser12345
    @stormchaser12345 2 года назад +1

    I honestly didn't believe this would work BUT I saw performance increase of around 1000 on CPU-Z when undervolting to -30. Thank you for posting this!

  • @Gamerunner30
    @Gamerunner30 3 года назад +4

    Worked like a charm. I was able to get the max value of 30 on my 5800x and msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi. Improved my cinebench r23 score by 4% with lower temps and higher clocks than stock

    • @alexandruilea915
      @alexandruilea915 2 года назад

      Any instability issue? I just tried this on my 5600x and at -30 it crashed after 2-3 minuts. Trying -25 now with 10 threads loaded, will see in 12 hours I guess.

  • @antonpoddubnov4651
    @antonpoddubnov4651 3 года назад +14

    Was able to set negative 30 on my 5800X and got a big performance boost out of nowhere.
    I can’t thank you enough for such a useful info!

    • @chrissmith8242
      @chrissmith8242 3 года назад +3

      Антон Поддубнов I couldn’t keep 30 negative magnitude. I had to set mine to 25. Probably due to the mother boards. Each one delivers power a little differently. I was able to get some serious gains though. Glad you also had a similar performance boost.

    • @antonpoddubnov4651
      @antonpoddubnov4651 3 года назад +3

      @@chrissmith8242 Thanks! After thorough testing I also had to dial it back to 26 for a concrete stability. Anyway - the performance gain us huge!

    • @johannestheil652
      @johannestheil652 3 года назад

      Is it stable in time spy physics test?

    • @antonpoddubnov4651
      @antonpoddubnov4651 3 года назад +1

      @@johannestheil652 yes, of-course. It’s rock solid everywhere.

    • @johannestheil652
      @johannestheil652 3 года назад

      @@antonpoddubnov4651 lucky guy, it doesnt work for me sadly. Which kind of ram do you use and how many ram bars?

  • @ivanrakov7245
    @ivanrakov7245 2 года назад +1

    Thanks man. negative 25 on my 5800x got me boosting between at 4.7-4.8GHz and staying at around 75 degrees max. Up from what my board was doing stock at 4.6 and 80-85 degrees

  • @alexfleener
    @alexfleener 3 года назад +1

    On AMD 5950x, MSI Prestige X570 Creation, G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 16GB 3800 CAS14. I was able to get "All core curve Opt. Mag." set to 24 and received 10134 on Cinebench R20. Thank you so much! Excellent video.

  • @bloodreaverrakin6554
    @bloodreaverrakin6554 3 года назад +3

    Tnx a lot mann. it helped with my 5800x at -25. and its stable... love you

    • @Scott_800
      @Scott_800 3 года назад

      Are you still running this? Might give it a go

  • @SirAlph4
    @SirAlph4 3 года назад +2

    can I use this with the Dynamic OC Switcher from the Asus X570 Dark Hero MB ? if I want less core application than it runs with lower voltage ?

  • @fatzz5800
    @fatzz5800 2 года назад

    Thanks man for the detailed video.

  • @SebastianDiLuise
    @SebastianDiLuise 3 года назад +1

    Thanks man, 10c less temperature with a -20 value curve optimizer, could not notice any performance problem.

  • @jabuki2
    @jabuki2 3 года назад +38

    great video. This gives a noticeable increase in 5600x CPU frequency. Which in turn gives much better gaming minimum framerates and framerate consistency. This is probably the most important factor for gaming and not max framerate.

    • @thatsreallyamoon
      @thatsreallyamoon Год назад

      What values did you use and have you had any issues since

    • @enessengul219
      @enessengul219 Год назад

      Is your system stable?

    • @bryanjayjuco8424
      @bryanjayjuco8424 Год назад

      ​@@enessengul219-30 curve stablo may 5600x temps drop to 10c amwzing

    • @bryanjayjuco8424
      @bryanjayjuco8424 Год назад

      ​@@thatsreallyamoon-30.for me 5600x still stable

  • @PSXMicha
    @PSXMicha Год назад +7

    I am using the negative offset of 30 with my 5600x
    I have the exact same results as you do and so far (2 weeks now) everything runs stable :)
    great video

    • @dekki3781
      @dekki3781 Год назад +1

      can you tell me your clocks speed and voltage pls

    • @IlPassato
      @IlPassato Год назад

      Did it maintain the clock speeds or it increased with the negative curve?

    • @PSXMicha
      @PSXMicha 4 месяца назад

      I get 4.6 all cores@@IlPassato

    • @PSXMicha
      @PSXMicha 4 месяца назад

      4.6 all cores, 1.18V@@dekki3781

  • @user-cd9yx5df6d
    @user-cd9yx5df6d 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for this guide. I managed to lower my temperatures on Ryzen 7 5700x on B450 TOMAHAWS MAX board from MSI. Idle temps are -5°C. I tested temps on Cinebech R23. All core load temps are -8°C and plus 1100 points! Single core is -7°C.

  • @kt9493
    @kt9493 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for your work. 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @audiocalls2822
    @audiocalls2822 3 года назад +22

    2:48 Got to sharpen your knife

  • @Sayakvids
    @Sayakvids 2 года назад +13

    wow this guide is great, trying this out on my 5800x to lower the temps and temps dropped about 7-8 celcius without any dip in my cinebench r20 score. thanks a lot

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO 2 года назад +1

      How many counts were you able to do? Gonna try it on my 5800x as well.

    • @Sayakvids
      @Sayakvids 2 года назад

      @@RafitoOoO hi sorry for the late reply but my score on r20 was 6k

  • @anhiirr
    @anhiirr 2 года назад +2

    I look forward to trying this on my 5900x on x570 tomahawk, As well as the 5800x on b550i pro ax. Though Im more interested in the ITX application. As its going to be a test between a 120mm evga clc with p12 fan/fans if possible to push pull front mount with hoses sideways & an nh-d15 which will probably win in thermals and noise yet double the cost for a cromax in a tu150. Just a way of trying to get performance w.o spending 100+ on itx cpu cooling if possible.

  • @galtierguillaume3161
    @galtierguillaume3161 2 года назад +1

    Excellent guide as usual.
    A new functionality has been added to ryzen master recently : an automatic curve optimizer testing and tuning the settings on its own.
    I would like to test the efficiency but I do not know how to proceed and log data. Any tips (or upcoming video)?

  • @Kaboomnz
    @Kaboomnz 2 года назад +3

    This dropped my 5900X idle temps by 6c, absolutely awesome thank you!

    • @fdlcflo1935
      @fdlcflo1935 2 года назад

      Hi what value did u use in curve optimizer magnitude ? 30 ? Thanks

    • @Kaboomnz
      @Kaboomnz 2 года назад +2

      @@fdlcflo1935 18, it'll be different for every chip

  • @NickGuzelian
    @NickGuzelian Год назад +3

    This is awesome, and shoutout to Asrock for bringing this to their b450 gaming k4, to my surprise, the option was there!

  • @ajlainez1944
    @ajlainez1944 Год назад +1

    What did you use to test stability Besides cinebench? Should I try prime 95?

  • @marcuslannizter5386
    @marcuslannizter5386 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video! Free performance is nothing scoff at :D

  • @nikkasons7262
    @nikkasons7262 Год назад +3

    Greetings! I did exactly the same steps with my 5600x on b550m aorus pro-p, and it just doesnt work, in full load and stress tests cpu heats up to 75-78 dergees before and after this tweak, Are ther any other tweaks i need to check? I noticed Disabling Core perfomance boost helps with the temps, dropping them to around 50-55 but frequency is locked to base 3700 mhz, dropping perfomance

  • @AndyU96
    @AndyU96 3 года назад +4

    It may not have yielded better performance in gaming, but the higher clock frequencies should definitely provide better performance in emulation.

  • @marcgralljr.1930
    @marcgralljr.1930 3 года назад

    You are a living legend bro. You boosted my cinebnech score by 350points and my temps are lower than set pbo on auto. Impressive!

  • @goodegg8757
    @goodegg8757 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video, really useful.