What's more funny is how many used it.. Like really? No one thought.. Why are they paying so much sponsorship/ad money to help YOU save money? It makes no freaking sense.. It never has.
@AwesomeRepix Hindsight is 20/20. So many people used it. Acting like it should have been obvious is a bit much. Even Jay was kinda wrong as to why he shouldn't trust it. Kind of.
McAfee also was charged with tax evasion and suspected of murder, and his business ventures after leaving his namesake company were mostly dismal failures. Regardless of anyone's opinion of McAfee or any other malware company, the man had pretty much lost credibility in the IT community long ago.
@SleipnirsRider It's miserable uninstalling McAfee from new HP laptops and PCs. I simply don't understand HP for doing this and it's most likely also installed by other Windows pc companies not just HP.
And using BING. ... What you see here is only a showcase PC with a standard configuration for general purposes, and not his private PC for his own purposes at home.
1:08 Norton 2:03 McAfee 4:17 NordVPN 7:53 Shopping extension 11:03 PC speed booster 15:51 Pre installed software 17:36 Other software included in free programs 18:30 Precautions in pirating software
You all should 100% do a video where you load all of these and other programs onto a rig, test the hell out of it, and then remove them and test it again. Just for fun.
A youtuber that goes by basicallyhomeless has a series where he just installs as many viruses he can on a pc to see what happens. Check him out if you're curious about this specific scenario.
I will save you the time. I have been using computers since the early 80's. First with Windows, then Mac, then linux, then back to macOS. I can tell you that in every case reinstalling a after a year or so of normal cluttering. The system would run faster in reinstall no matter what was or wan't installed. (I can account for that.) But like the macOS... that ecosystem is so easy to rebuild from new install. The way the Mac slows down by next to nothin now, if at all. Can say that about windows. Linux is so clean it just rocks for development. Same for Mac.
@johndoe6817 go look up the Honey scam. Its like the biggest thing on RUclips. Basically it swaps out other peoples affiliate codes for their own, and it intentionally gives consumers not the best codes because the companies partnered with it
That alone wont protect you though. Just back in 2007 or so, I was playing an FPS called Command and conquer renegade (its multiplayer was great) and somehow someone was mad enough to try hacking into my system. Back then I think I had Avira AV and while playing it killed the game and said it stopped a hacking attempt.
Incognito mode does NOT do anything to hide your information or data transferred from your ISP or any bad actors. Incognito mode is not more secure, it just doesn't store browser data locally. That's all it does.
My Mum just bought a $1400 laptop, then got talked into paying for norton and office. The first thing I did was uninstall Norton, then she told me she paid for it... I told her next time don't buy a computer without me.
Some of my friends, relatives and co-workers ask me for advice when it comes to PC and IT in general. Some of them diregard my advice and then come to me for help. I do help them of course. By their choice they learn the lesson the hard way and next time they do listen to me and do what I say. If not, I refuse to help them anymore.
@indrahaseo exactly my idea, I havent ever used extra antivirus or boosters or whatever, I clean installed my laptop because I couldnt uninstall any of them
@RestrainedDuets yes indeed, I understand how you feel that cannot uninstall of them completely but no choice to format everything and reinstall windows
I used to work in the Fry's service center repairing computers and we always had competitions on who got the computer with the most malware, spyware, viruses, and took bars installed
This brings back memories. My former mother-in-law was a prolific PC killer. I think I wiped and reinstalled her laptop close to a half dozen times, but it would only take her a month or so to gum it up again. I used to say, she never met a link she wouldn't click. She even got scammed into an expensive PC maintenance contract with a company in Asia, and they installed a bunch of suspect looking software. To this day, I'm still surprised she didn't get phished out of her life savings.
I know your pain my family and relatives are the same, I'll be like what the hell are you all doing I say to them don't do this, don't do that, the comeback answer is "It wasn't me". When I was taught by my late uncle, he always said, "You can bet your bottom dollar it is the thing between the chair and keyboard that is the problem"
@johntaylor3298My MiL once got a phishing email that was addressed to her by the portion before the @ in her email address, which was obviously auto-generated (dear firstname.lastname). When I asked her what she did, she said, "Well, I was about to delete it, because I don't have a TD account and never have, but then I got to thinking. How would they know my name? How would they even know I exist? So you see I HAD to click on it. I had no choice". That was a fun one to fix. Had to have her reset a bunch of passwords, which annoyed her to no end. And I think she just added "1" to the end of her old password. 🤦♂
@mawi2815 Mount the /home folder on another drive and use a backup software to restore the system when needed. A couple of reoccurring backups that are 1 week apart from each other should do the trick. Mint has that software built in. It also has a software manager that acts like an app store. Plus, she can't install software unless she has administrative privilege... Administrator has the keys for groups and users. Easy Peezy Until she finds a way to access the files from an exterior port...or NOT. 😬
Unless it's something directly on the OS, like Check Disk. I almost never listen when people recommend trash like Wondershare, Recuva and others. I once used CheckDisk to recover a whole corrupted drive.
@craftwanderer8802 Malwarebyte is the best by far i used. I used Avast and whatnot. Nothing compare to malwarebyte. I got an adware once, i downloaded Malwarebyte, it automatically quarantine the virus and it auto scan any files you download, if its suspicious it will auto quarantine.
To be fair I use IfixIt kits for work and personal use and it's a very solid kit. Little more expensive than Amazon generic kits but they're a good company and their bits seem to last longer.
Same. 😂 I think I’ve drilled that into my parents’ head well enough that they always have me check things if they’re not sure if they should click something.
I work for a software company. And our clients are in healthcare. Most of those folks cannot even type a website address, let alone know what software they use. They call us and blame us for our software, and our hardware requirements are super low in the grand scheme of things. A lot of the time they have Mcafee, or Norton installed. Try telling someone who cannot even type a website address your software is not the one causing a slow computer! lol
Same with McAfee. As Jay said, the history of that man is incredible. He made one of the first awesome malware tools then when he left, the new owners turned it into a moneygrab scam that ended up trusted by so many OEMs because of the money they paid and the history that it used to be good. John McAfee himself made the most incredible video on how to uninstall it. I recommend looking it up. Yes, they really are actual hookers and I'm 100% sure that's not flour.
Their BIOS scans and pre-OS scanners are still very good and were the only thing to detect a Rootkit that I knew I had due to computers weird behavior but could not locate otherwise. Best is you run it from a USB drive instead of installing anything. Highly recommend that and run periodic scan every 3 to 6 months or so .
Norton and McAfee are particularly sad cases because those of us with long memories (forty years, MS-DOS) remember when these were reputable companies selling useful utilities.
Yes, I have fond memories of using early versions of Norton Utilities on classic macOS to check and defrag my hard drive on a Mac Quadra 700. It used to be a really useful toolchest back then.
@niemand7811 20 years ago was 2004. The time that is being referred to here is the 90s and before. In the those days, both were reputable companies and products. I would go as far as to call them the industry standard at the time for virus removal. That said, you are right, it certainly has been a long time now since that was true.
Not always true. There are programmers who build shit for utilitarian reasons. They love what they do, and give it away for free. Just look at the wide array of Linux builds.
The Prime Video app with ads is pure, soul-destroying cancer. I know that isn't a software issue but rather a business practice issue, but I'm so sick of ads on a service I pay money for partly to avoid watching ads on TV I had to mention it.
That's why I don't totally agree with Jay on pirate stuff. Yes, you shouldn't just download anything from anywhere. But if you know what you're doing, pirating isn't that bad, yes you do have to manually "update/reinstall" new versions every time, but you don't need to spend money on stupid stuff that only gives you more ads. I don't own any subscriptions to any streaming services, but I can still watch "new" movies/series and without ads. Oh and when you're torrenting, you should also watch out for torrent clients, because the most popular ones are in the same bracket as antivirus/boosting programs. You should know what you're doing with torrenting.
That’s getting insane. YT has gone full hog,(I won’t pay for premium ) I’m surprised I’m 2/3 through this video without an ad. But I tried watching Tulsa King a week before the elections, worst time to watch anything from a service.
@Gjitdyi245 My Netflix is only £5.00 and I very rarely see adds, I do have two adblockers running for RUclips. Adblocker Ultimate and Ublock origin. I don't know if they work on Netflix, maybe that's why I don't see the adds🤔🤔
This is freaky, I work at Mattress Firm, and I literally talked to a lady about an email that she got from "Norton" saying they were charging her $500 for her subscription. I told her DON'T CALL THAT NUMBER! And then I watch this video...
@ZeusTheIrritable Not anymore, but I did once. The reason for that happening was because Mattress Firm bought a lot of other mattress retailers, but the lease on that store was for a set number of years. As a company, we are slowly fixing that problem.
@jandecoleman1 Damn. I was hoping to hear that there was genuinely that much demand for mattresses in certain places that it necessitated multiple stores in one location. Or, that it was a front for some huge drug cartel.
as a network engineer that works for an ISP: If you're using a VPN, we don't care. At all. In any way whatsoever. In fact, if you're going to do dodgy stuff like torrents, we'd prefer you use a vpn, because that means less RIAA/MPAA/etc. complaint emails to deal with. As far as transit costs go, VPN use is just as expensive as non-tunnelled "naked" data throughput. There's no incentive to care.
@patriciaschmitt6448 Windows defender. Its already installed on all computers and it is the best antivirus out there. You do not need any third party. Also, you cant get a virus or malware unless you are downloading things or visiting sketchy sites. Basically dont be dumb and click on stuff. And just let windows do its thing. You will be fine.
Your local ISP may not, but Netflix and other similar services do. I used a VPN, and Netflix blocked it. This is especially concerning when the repeated pitch is Netflix when advertising VPNs. While a VPN encrypts your data and masks your data, its IP is not masked. Blacklisting known VPN server is simple.
Norton was just a toy after 2000, until now. But when you buy a new computer, it was already installed, and customers would call and say their computer was frozen and they didn't know why.
John McAfee had almost nothing to do with the Anti-Virus-Suite since 1994, after he stepped down in the company and esp. in 1997, when he sold the company.
I used mcafee webadvisor toolbar in the 2000s and it was okay but lots of false negatives like flash games sites came up as dangerous. Haha remember toolbars 😂😊
Years ago I had speculated that Norton had hackers in their basement developing and deploying virus software into the internet so they would always have a reason to stay in business.
Technically you are not wrong, there are hackers 'white hackers' (which you get a licence to do) a friend of mine used to be one many years ago before they became greedy. Viruses have to be hacked themself in order to get rid of them. but i can assure you they do not do this haha
Totally agree. Older folks in church ask me to help them buy laptops or PCs, and when they arrive, I do a full reset immediately and start with a clean image, and just grab the needed drivers. 👍
100%. The same with a lot of people at my church. I want to start a PC literacy class in the near future to teach people about all the stuff normies typically don't know or understand. I would love to popularize Linux Mint: Debian Edition with people, using the windows like icons theme. Thankfully my pastor is sharp and tech savy. Was previously a project manager at Siemens. He makes sure the church itself avoids using shifty stuff.
@hardbrocklife I switched to Linux Mint Cinnamon when MS stopped supporting XP. I have a laptop with Windows 10, but only for when I need to have a program that needs a Windows environment. I used to use WINE but I haven't used it in a while. I don't even know if it works with Windows 10.
Glad you addressed the OneDrive issue...its actually why I'm here. Was hoping you had a video on how to untangle from it permanently. Just had a brand new computer built & CANNOT figure out how to turn it off or de-tangle from it (to be fair I have some minor cognitive difficulties). I cannot possibly tell you how much I hate it. My built comp cost $2k and I'm still having so many problems trying to (not) save anything to with OneDrive as they will eventually charge you for storage. Until people are full, they probably don't realize it. They don't seem to understand that it has alienated me so much I would pay for it now even if I wanted it. It will NEVER happen!!!! I'd pay only to get rid of it PERMANENTLY. I do not understand why Microsoft is allowed to do this.
@Dave01Rhodes Ah yes. Ramzi lol. "Let's download some ware-ez". You just reminded me of Kevin Rose from those videos. I wonder what he's up to nowadays.
It's the truth. I had a nice lady from a place that we won't say gives massages say "Hey, I like you. Next time if you want to skip the protection." That was an instant nope! I like my life like my PC. I only play what I want how I want. The slightly safe sometimes crazy way.
First-time viewer. Kinda just nodded along with everything you were saying until the very end where you said Defender was good enough for most people. I almost caught on fire how quickly I slammed the Like button. I can't tell you how many people I've told this to. "What AV do I use then??" How about the free one that comes as part of your operating system, that most definitely knows what files belong there. And then my soul dies a little, having said something good about Microsoft.
Today's adventures. Notice computer sluggish late last night, hardly swaps between apps. Does the same this morning. Looking in my sys tray for something and there MS is "Windows must reboot...." Holding my computer hostage until I do what they want.
@nubie1100 Well, I hate to be that guy, but if you cracked it, you didn't receive it for free, you stole it. If someone else cracked it you are probably still the product, you just don't know it. There is probably a botnet or crypto miner on your computer (or worse).
@GarethIzCoolAs a lot of people has already mentioned, if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing. Do it on big cooperation, but not on small creators.
Norton and McAfee have been crap for over 20 years. Back then, I was a computer tech and the amount of effort that it took to clean up the mess they left (god help you if it crashed during install) was insane. Calling them resource hogs is an understatement.
Yup totally agree. However in most, but not all cases the Mcafee and Norton removal tools usually do a pretty good job cleaning them off when the uninstaller fails.
I had to reinstall windows XP for a guy after he put 98 Norton on it. Don't use I told him. 2 hrs later. It doesn't work. I booted in safe mode. He had reinstalled Norton. I said "you're on your own" He took it to a shop and paid £100.
@markenetube My worst one was this guy who bought Norton at Walmart, installed it on his Windows ME, and it crashed during install. So he tried it again. Crash. Finally brought it to my shop, and this was before they put out their tools. It took me hours to clean it out of the registry, it wrote itself to an ungodly number of places. I installed a different AV for him, told him to see if he could get a refund. McAfee was just a major resource hog.
@markenetube To be fair back in the XP days there was no built in security so it was typical to install a third party solution. But yes even back then Norton and Mcafees security suites could mess up an XP machine at the drop of a hat. Back then I always told my customers to stay away the suites and stick with most basic versions of these programs.
What is annoying about VPN is that, while you use it for shopping or banking, many sites block it so you cant use it for exactly what you want to use it for to prevent theft of your sensitive data.
I don't have that problem. I found a highly recommended open source vpn (OpenVPN) that works quite well. I'm even considering turning one of my many PC's into a VPN server to host it, so I can feel confident about who's handling my VPN data.
I kinda thought it was always used primarily for pirating software, music and movies! I never understood how people can put things like their banking information online. Even using a VPN, remember, even the VPN provider can get access to your data due to its very nature.
@kiillabytez I do pretty much all my banking/investing online nowadays. I make sure the places I deal with have 2 factor authentication and robust security. When I started using the internet back in 1989 and several years after, I sure wouldn't do banking online. But I'm pretty confident ITSec has improved enough to be reasonably safe. And only a very shady (and criminally stupid) VPN service would snoop your traffic.
Thanks for this. I've been a PC tech since 1996, and clients NEVER EVER listen to me about avoiding spurious websites. And then they call me when their PC is toast. Oh well, their ignorance keeps me in business.
Shady sites aren't that bad if you go in with proper protections in place, script blockers with overzealous settings, adblockers, a VPN, etc to ensure only the barest minimum is allowed to load. But that requires a level of experience I don't expect out of anyone who hasn't been on the internet for 20 years.
@slamshift6927 No kidding. And that's why I urge my clients to AVOID click-bait and email scams. It's simply too easy to click on a link that takes your browser to a trojan/virus/phishing page. But they never learn. Ugh.
Thats about when I started fixing them aswell. No one ever listens to the tech they think we don't know anything. But who's the first one they run to when his/her PC dies? lol
My first pc was an IBM 486 tower PC. And 90% of the time it was on, was spent defragging the hard disc drive. Yeah, I'd run it about once a week, but it was something that took several hours to complete. That computer was so old that it originally had DOS, SHELL and Windows 3.1 on it. And I still had to use command prompt to search for and run exe files.
Yeah. People should start going beyond a simple “programmer” classification in colloquial terms. It’s just too broad. I’ve had friends who are spectacular engineers in very specific programming areas wondering if a vpn connection would lower their latency to a server.
The most hilarious ones are the "RAM defragmenters" They do nothing but fill up the rest of the RAM by allocating every single bit left and then just dump it all at once. Like if that's doing anything meaningful.
@somebodysomeone23 Hmm, tbh that's a legit question, and the answer is yes, it will lower the latency to a server if the routing is pretty bad to begin with.
@Bikkurinethey took the affiliate commission anytime a code that gave a discount worked. So if this channel was sponsored by honey and paid to advertise to use honey thru their link “in the description” the backend of the plugin would apply said discount but “rewrite the coding” so that the affiliate code came from honey and not the channel they paid to advertise. So honey takes the money from that affiliate link and make back their ad payment to the channel.
I often got blamed for "breaking" our family pc. And ive believed it. After i got a laptop for my birthday i havent used the family pc. About 8 months pass and the charger dies, so i had to use the family pc. The keyboard was covered in sunflower seed shells and spilled tea with sugar. But that wasnt the worst part, the pc had 3 different antiviruses, 4 browsers(2 were chrome reskins), tons of search tabs and other stuff. Still not the worst part, a week after that i got blamed for "breaking" the family pc again. The pc i havent used in almost a year, which they had free range of and installed tons of garbage on, you got popups on the desktop, some from the antiviruses themselves.
Back when I was 12 or 13, I went through the same thing. I am a software engineer now but even now my family doesn't listen to me when I say certain boosting software don't work. Even after explaining, they don't want to listen to it.
I have four browsers, but my top two are for different things (like being logged into two accounts on the same site), I have Chrome installed because some people are like, "yOu hAvE To hAvE ChRoMe tO Do tHe tHiNg!" and I keep Edge around for the, "If it doesn't work here, the site may be broken" situations. 😂
I got sent an email from CaixaBank saying my data had been lost and I had to create another password, and I was like "hold on, I don't even have a CaixaBank account, these morons tried to scam me"
The FIRST general rule to avoid any scams (apart from never click on a link within an email) is, if you receive an email that says ANYTHING about being charged at all then call your credit card company and check your purchases THERE. Do not call any numbers they give you. Call the number on your statements. Basically, when checking, stick to things you know are reputable / real.
@owenorders5202 that's what credit cards are for. If your info gets out its 100% covered by the bank. To piggy back off OP: I never respond directly to anything. No mail, calls, anything. I contact the company myself through normal channels always. Phishing isn't only done via email.
@dkail08 Not only do I never do any financial transactions online, but nowhere online do I ever post my real name or any personal details about anything. I do get regular phone calls from scammers and I enjoy wasting their time. But to those who do think that it's slick and trendy to do banking online, I say this: scammers and their equipment are getting more sophisticated every year; so, in the not too distant future it will become very hard for the banks and credit card companies to establish that you actually were defrauded, and they will make it harder and harder for you to be reimbursed, because if they settled all the claims, they would quickly become, well, bankrupt.
I had a pain in the rear client who was notorious to messing up his PC in a very short time, even brand new ones. So after I used to setup his PCs in perfect condition and before I gave it to him I used to take and save a full image of the whole disk drive. So after his famous catastrophes, which was inevitable, I used to quickly restore the image in a very short time and now all is just perfect again.....for the time being. Luckily for him he could afford all this mayhem and I made a lot $$$ helping this troublesome soul.
With net neutrality being restored, they also risk getting sued and hit by the FCC if users can prove they aren't doing anything illegal while they're being throttled.
@Triforcebro If you really want to add another layer to the system already built into Windows, then all I can say is "Do your research." All I can tell is that the last third party anti-virus program I used was "eset" - but I haven't used it in many years, so I can't vouch for how it operates today.
My dad is not that old and despite having moved on, he worked with computers a lot when he was younger. Back when we only had a family computer we had to share, you would not believe how hard I fought with him because he kept installing three different anti virus and then complained the pc was slow
Did you notice, the antivirus programs often identify the other anti virus programs viruses that have been isolated, as active viruses. That was the day I discovered Norton Antivirus program was useless junkware.
@ToxicMothBoi This is true, literally had McAfee try and hijack the family computer when I was a kid. I ended up having to do the partition thing in order to get to a place where I could clear the mess out.
About 20 years ago, if that, a nurse friend of mine, who was recently disabled, put Norton Utilities on her new computer... the computer all but froze. It took FOREVER for just one web page to load, if at all; the same for all programs on her computer. She was in a wheelchair, was somewhat of a computer novice, and called me for help. I'd say it took me between 50 and 60 HOURS to get Norton-Not-So-Useful-Utilities off her computer. After that, wiping her hard drive and reinstalling her operation system and programs was a comparative "walk in the park." For years now, when asked about Norton, I say, "RUN!" FOOTNOTE: getting rid of McAfee, some years later, cured many undiagnosable, and annoying, issues on my computer.
The original Norton Utilities, back on classic Mac, worked wonders. I really did love it, particularly the defragmenter. That was then... this crap is now.
I guess back then, the notion of removing the hard-drive and attaching it as a secondary/slave drive to another computer wasn't so known. Would have saved you some time. By the way on modern windows (since at least 2006) there's something called a safe mode which boots without non-essential items, this will make sure Norton and other crap don't launch at startup so you can remove it.
I had a similar problem with Norton and couldn't uninstall it. When I asked Symantec how to get it off my PC the answer I got was "why would you want to?". Well, I got rid of it in the end and I never used it again. The original Norton was great. It was only after Symantec took it over that it went downhill. Stay away from Symantec.
So what service would you use for protection? If I can get rid of another yearly subscription then I’d love to do so. I just want to make sure I have something that can actually protect my computer
Very brave of Jay to do this. These guys will never sponsor him. Guess he has moral fiber and is not a shill. Thanks for giving us the honest truth Jay.
VPNs are a necessity in some countries due to censorship. I appreciate that you live in a free country where this isn't an issue, but for those of us who don't, we need it to actually surf the internet.
Free country? Thanks for the giggles! There isn't a single country on this planet that doesn't censor the internet in some form or another. You only get to see what your overlords decide you can see. Come to the West and try accessing certain sites, you will promptly be told you're not allowed to read/hear/see those opinions. Even your ISP will block sites from you. None of us are free my friend, it's all an illusion.
Jay always says that a specific link will be included in the description box and guess what, it’s NEVER there. This happens EVERY TIME and I’ve been watching this channel for sometime now.
@jessicalawson1417 I don’t think it’s Jays fault here, I think it’s Phil, he does the editing and so he should be including them but then again as he’s forgotten then it’s Jays fault, he should remind him or have it written so that Phil remembers to include it.
TBF on this one in particular he mentioned they crashed their site last time by doing this, I guess he didn't put 2 and 2 together in the moment and decided after the fact that maybe lets not do that again, or at least not this soon lol...
100% on Norton and McAfee. It can take several hours to fully get rid of them.. Or so you think they are gone.. lol Just for a new Lenovo laptop from my employer, and it had McAfee pre-installed on it. We un-installed McAfee since that's not the anti-virus we use, and we STILL get McAfee pop-ups daily saying our protection is expired. It's the software that won't go away.
I had to get an IT tech friend of mine to spend an hour or two clearing it from my laptop completely. He uninstalled it but there were still traces of it somewhere and it was completely stopping me from using the programs I had specifically purchased the computer for. He fine-tooth-combed through the computer and finally got it all. I refuse to have anything to do with McAfee ever again. So shady.
I still own a lenovo that had McAfee too from 2017. Didnt have such problem removing it. Hjnestly i let it run a year for test and noticed it didnt protect me at all but defender did after i removed McAfee. Since then i jave Defender+IOvit antinalware and regularly running PE OS with AV too
I actually got both Norton and McAfee scam emails and even got followed up with an email saying that I was charged on a paypal account I didn't even have.
Good video, two points from a security perspective: 1. Do NOT install any free VPN software on your phone or computer, theres a different danger here. When you look at the EULA, alot of them basically turn your host into a VPN tunnel for someone else. So you could be unwittingly be used for attack campaigns without knowing, this could open you up to liability in certain countries. 2. Theres LESS of an issue with open wifi networks right now with modern security practices eg. HTTPs everywhere etc. Still some dangers, but its not the MITM-heaven it was in the past.
48 years... nobosdy attacks.... I got zero security.. why.. there's no information saved on my system that can comprimise me :-) so technically I'm untouchable ..... :-) neet security huh?
Just make your own VPN. It costs a dollar or two to rent a cloud slot, and takes 5 minutes to go from purchase to running the OVPN or WG install script.
The main reason to use a VPN is to secure your PC, I use Nordvpn because they do not keep logs of your activity, and have no requirement to report what you are accessing, since the company is in Panama . Free Vpns are not secure, and do not protect your activity.
I remember around 2010 I had a new laptop and read that the camera could be turned on without the owner's knowledge. I removed the program, it was re-installed, I removed it again, etc. That was shocking and a revelation of how constantly users were even then being data collected and spied on. I had already covered the lens but I wanted it off my computer. I also stuck silly putty over the microphone to mute it.
@jeddiajones That was the same advice a politician said ages ago. My camera lights up with a green light when on but I still point it to the ceiling when not in use.
You can disable it in the BIOS. Disable Intel ME (Intel "safety" features LOL), too if you can while at it. And then put a tape over it and the mic for just in case. ;)
@denisgraham2484 Some people get the laptops from work and have to use them. You can't change anything on them. The black electricians tape and silly putty are probably your best bet in those cases. You can take them off and clean it up relatively easily, and reapply just as easily. Even if you're fired, they can't say you damaged the equipment because of how easily it is to remove it. A hair dryer will ensure the tape and tackiness come off clean.
The bloatware was so bad on my friends brand new laptop that it literally took 15 minutes to start, that is not an exaggeration. He wanted me to see if I could do anything and I didn't think it was bloatware but a problem with the computer itself. Well after doing a full backup image, then installing windows clean, it started like it was nuthin. I couldn't believe it, a mainstream PC store was selling a line of laptops with bloatware so bad it makes a brand new laptop start up for 15 minutes before you can do anything. This was in 2011.
@Suyneej it could with a old enough drive that was slow enough it could seriously take 15 minutes to boot mech drive do slow down over time so it's possible that one could slow down enough to slow down windows boot so it took 15 minutes
It's been like that for a while. I used to work for an outsourced call center that took calls for a well known warehouse retailer. I'd get customers who would call in the same day after buying thier pcs complaining about pop-ups and virus alerts. It was always bloatware. We just walked them through a factory reset. A lot of customers just returned them, though.
AVG was junk. I used Avast for years and it did the job but it too went commercial and turned into junkware. Now, I don't go on line using Windows. I use Linux as its safer and more stable, and antivirus software is not needed. You can stick your Linux Jimmy just about anywhere with out fear.
Man! So glad to see somebody calling out all of this garbage! A shop I contract repair work for deals with this on a daily basis, and people will actually push back thinking that we're giving them bad advice about these junk programs. It's a real pain some days.
Heh a long time ago (23 years) I worked in Phone Tech support for Gateway Computers, and this was even then a constant issue to the point we had a canned response "WE DON'T PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, YOU INSTALL IT AT YOUR OWN RISK" if certain software was found on a customers PC they would be asked to uninstall it, if they refused it ended our support and we could close the call.
For two summers in a row while I was still in school, my full time job was to work for an IT department at a factory going through all the new PC's they were buying and deleting all the garbage software they had preinstalled. It was such a long process that even doing it full time, it took me 6 months.
@raffypasalo In the 80's we had a program for the Mac . This was the time when typing pools existed. The program would display a warning that water had been found in the hard drive. "Please standby while the water is being pumped from your hard drive". A schematic of the process with animated, pixel graphics would appear on the screen. Fun stuff.
Did you do mannually?😮 A bit of PowerShell knowledge could cut deleting process to just mere minutes (depends how fast system is and how much needed to be deleted). (If clear install was not an option)
That one and McAfee antivirus. Those programs are like cancer on a pc. They put files everywhere that don't go away just because you uninstall the program.
You clearly never found out the single Norton uninstaller tool that has been around for absolutely years. Run it and it uninstalls all of the Norton software. Not very tech savvy after all are you ?....😅😅😅
Idk how many times I have tried to fix a client's computer, can't figure out why it's not working, and then see Norton is preventing me from doing something basic, like sharing a printer. And you can't uninstall it, because it belongs to the customer, and they probably wasted money on it.
I remember when it kept telling me, it could not delete stuff, because the process was still running, so i renamed random files, so the processes would crash, since i had no idea what task manager was or how to uninstall programs.
PUP-ware really needs to be talked about today. Remarkable how much crap that used to come with an app and the uninstaller was even a junk PUP that would install other crap while you removed an app.
Hey jay. I just wanted to say. I know this isn’t relevant to you or anyone here. But watching your videos have helped me tremendously with my mental health. Dealing with life and difficult things. I always find myself here watching your videos and it brings me comfort as a pc guy myself. I’m not the smartest with them but I do learn everyday. And I wanted to say thank you. Ik you don’t know me. But In this weird way your videos have helped save my life. Much love brother and keep it up
I get it. When I was struggling through PTS and couldn't relate to other people, video games with NPC companions helped me rebuild my social skills and my ability to care about something. They were a major therapeutic tool for me.
I hear you! Just keep plugging away at daily life, and keep learning! When you are at rock bottom, you can only go up. I'm not the smartest either, but I've been doing this stuff since 1990, and knowledge is your best friend. Just keep doing what you do. Other people will appreciate you.
Outstanding. If you ever want to go deep into learning and how these suckers run, I can help. I keep tech reference manuals as they are my sanity and helpers.
Adobe Acrobat Updater is practically a virus. There are so many software installers that by default will install Adobe Acrobat Reader and the updater. If you uninstall Acrobat, the updater is still running and puts it back. I've seen PCs with like 10 disabled acrobat updaters in the startup.
I have managed fine with Foxit for some time, at least when I need to make changes/edits/form-fill. It is free and I never see anything from it unless I open it. They even have an option to disable their ad banner in settings. xD
Yeah, I use the full version at work allot and because of this I have a "unlocked" version at home, an old one, and the amount of blocks in .host file and such needed to keep the updater or other away is a pain in the A.
I’m impressed your Dad could actually run both Norton and McAffe. They used to not even run after the other was installed because of the mess they left in the registry!
I once had a system booster. I turned off the usual features, but kept it to clean the drive and some system folders from junk, which accumulated a bunch of GB over the years. Back, when a 250GB drive was outrageous.
Crikey it's like we have the same father! I've banged on about these same things to my family and friends for years mainly in an effort to stop them contacing me about problems on computers all the time, glad to hear an American cousins has the same thoughts and problems as me. Great video content by the way.
Back in 2011 a friend of mine had a shared home computer. His parents had Norton that they just kept from back in the day when they first got a computer and for some reason Norton Flagged the Win32 files have malicious and started deleting them. It was incredibly hard to stop the process and get everything under control and haven't trusted Norton since.
The 1st Comps I was ever let loose on, were Apple IIe's & Apple II's running BASIC on a monochrome screen. This was between 89-91 when I was in Elementary School. The Thang I member doin the most was, yupp U guessed it, "The Oregon Trail."
Same here dude. I worked in the tech sector for years & you would not believe the problems that arose from Norton, caffeine & bloatware. People would get so pissed off with me because they seen Norton as a hugely successful antivirus. If it's huge, it must be good. I once had the time to show someone how badly it wove itself through the registry & they were totally shocked. It wouldn't surprise me if they installed rootkits with their AV suites. Prebuilds were always a nightmare.
You left out Windows11.
Ahh, I came here to make this comment too
This
You mean windows? Why specifically 11
Amen
You legend...
This has aged very well with the new accusations about Honey
Jay was so right!
Dude I was looking for this comment. Aged like fine wine!
What's more funny is how many used it.. Like really? No one thought.. Why are they paying so much sponsorship/ad money to help YOU save money? It makes no freaking sense.. It never has.
@AwesomeRepix Hindsight is 20/20. So many people used it. Acting like it should have been obvious is a bit much. Even Jay was kinda wrong as to why he shouldn't trust it. Kind of.
I just got to that part of the video and was thinking the exact same thing
McAfee himself disowned his own company and made a video of himself literally shooting a gun at a computer with McAfee installed.
McAfee also was charged with tax evasion and suspected of murder, and his business ventures after leaving his namesake company were mostly dismal failures. Regardless of anyone's opinion of McAfee or any other malware company, the man had pretty much lost credibility in the IT community long ago.
I installed McAfee a few years ago, and it installed twelve McAfee services. Nope.
@SleipnirsRider It's miserable uninstalling McAfee from new HP laptops and PCs. I simply don't understand HP for doing this and it's most likely also installed by other Windows pc companies not just HP.
Mcafee is terrible. I cannot seem to uninstall whatever of its functions is on a pc. And a resource hog.
😂😂😂 if true this is funny
Mcafee is terrible!
This video with co-pilot in the corner of the screen lol
and on Edge
And using BING. ... What you see here is only a showcase PC with a standard configuration for general purposes, and not his private PC for his own purposes at home.
1:08 Norton
2:03 McAfee
4:17 NordVPN
7:53 Shopping extension
11:03 PC speed booster
15:51 Pre installed software
17:36 Other software included in free programs
18:30 Precautions in pirating software
Thanks for saving me 19 minutes lol
the comment i was looking for, thanks
You the MVP brother.
I'm actually surprised that Windows was not mentioned.
emus-shadowapps-startupapps-torrents
You all should 100% do a video where you load all of these and other programs onto a rig, test the hell out of it, and then remove them and test it again. Just for fun.
A youtuber that goes by basicallyhomeless has a series where he just installs as many viruses he can on a pc to see what happens. Check him out if you're curious about this specific scenario.
And he should use his fixit voice when he shows the loaded up rig.
Then back to his normal voice for the clean rig.
DIS!
I will save you the time. I have been using computers since the early 80's. First with Windows, then Mac, then linux, then back to macOS. I can tell you that in every case reinstalling a after a year or so of normal cluttering. The system would run faster in reinstall no matter what was or wan't installed. (I can account for that.) But like the macOS... that ecosystem is so easy to rebuild from new install. The way the Mac slows down by next to nothin now, if at all. Can say that about windows. Linux is so clean it just rocks for development. Same for Mac.
Pretty sure Dawid Does Tech Stuff has done this.
Bro called out Honey before the Honey scandal
More like it’s been known… some people just never fact check or do their own research.
@random_personill6601 who does in this world where everything and everyone moves so fast, it’s not even something you think about
what happened ?
@johndoe6817 go look up the Honey scam. Its like the biggest thing on RUclips.
Basically it swaps out other peoples affiliate codes for their own, and it intentionally gives consumers not the best codes because the companies partnered with it
Scandal? Lol That's just how the internet works. Last click gets credit. It's always been that way.
VPNs are now obligatory in a lot of countries if you even want to just browse normally...
Please explain
@KevinRussell-c4w Russia. No more explaination needed lmao
@cheman579they're not needed
One thing I was told as a kid. "Your brain is the best anti-virus. If something looks too good to be true, it is."
Never click on suspicious links.
Common Sense 2025 Edition comes out next year, don't forget to upgrade ➡️🧠
It *probably* is. You don't automatically ignore every single opportunity, you cautiously explore it first
and that still applies
@EidolonKaos 🤣
That alone wont protect you though.
Just back in 2007 or so, I was playing an FPS called Command and conquer renegade (its multiplayer was great) and somehow someone was mad enough to try hacking into my system.
Back then I think I had Avira AV and while playing it killed the game and said it stopped a hacking attempt.
Incognito mode does NOT do anything to hide your information or data transferred from your ISP or any bad actors. Incognito mode is not more secure, it just doesn't store browser data locally. That's all it does.
This cannot be emphasized enough!!
@Vermeulenisdenaam i mean chrome literally tells you that when you open an incognito tab, so the only way not to know that is if you just don't read.
@atomicwaffle420 yes, I know... but the ability to read is one of the most overestimated talents for the average Joe internet visitor ;)
@atomicwaffle420 I don't know what you said because I didn't read it but you're wrong.
@atomicwaffle420to be fair though years of computer use have trained me to instinctively press the right button without reading pop ups and shit XD
My Mum just bought a $1400 laptop, then got talked into paying for norton and office.
The first thing I did was uninstall Norton, then she told me she paid for it...
I told her next time don't buy a computer without me.
Some of my friends, relatives and co-workers ask me for advice when it comes to PC and IT in general. Some of them diregard my advice and then come to me for help. I do help them of course. By their choice they learn the lesson the hard way and next time they do listen to me and do what I say. If not, I refuse to help them anymore.
windows defender is good enough than paid any anti virus
@indrahaseo exactly my idea, I havent ever used extra antivirus or boosters or whatever, I clean installed my laptop because I couldnt uninstall any of them
@RestrainedDuets yes indeed, I understand how you feel that cannot uninstall of them completely but no choice to format everything and reinstall windows
@RestrainedDuets Yes indeed, I understand how you feel because of that program or booster
Best Ad EVER! 0:11 🤣😁
My gf's mom had so many "bars" from installed applications in her browser that the actual window was half the size lol.
There was a meme of that sort of thing.
I can understand this...
@noneyabizz8337 if you uninstall all the applications then you
I’ve seen this, yahoo bar…
I used to work in the Fry's service center repairing computers and we always had competitions on who got the computer with the most malware, spyware, viruses, and took bars installed
This brings back memories. My former mother-in-law was a prolific PC killer. I think I wiped and reinstalled her laptop close to a half dozen times, but it would only take her a month or so to gum it up again. I used to say, she never met a link she wouldn't click. She even got scammed into an expensive PC maintenance contract with a company in Asia, and they installed a bunch of suspect looking software. To this day, I'm still surprised she didn't get phished out of her life savings.
I know your pain my family and relatives are the same, I'll be like what the hell are you all doing I say to them don't do this, don't do that, the comeback answer is "It wasn't me". When I was taught by my late uncle, he always said, "You can bet your bottom dollar it is the thing between the chair and keyboard that is the problem"
@johntaylor3298My MiL once got a phishing email that was addressed to her by the portion before the @ in her email address, which was obviously auto-generated (dear firstname.lastname). When I asked her what she did, she said, "Well, I was about to delete it, because I don't have a TD account and never have, but then I got to thinking. How would they know my name? How would they even know I exist? So you see I HAD to click on it. I had no choice". That was a fun one to fix. Had to have her reset a bunch of passwords, which annoyed her to no end. And I think she just added "1" to the end of her old password. 🤦♂
Give her Linux and pray to God she doesn’t break it
@mawi2815 Mount the /home folder on another drive and use a backup software to restore the system when needed. A couple of reoccurring backups that are 1 week apart from each other should do the trick.
Mint has that software built in. It also has a software manager that acts like an app store. Plus, she can't install software unless she has administrative privilege... Administrator has the keys for groups and users. Easy Peezy
Until she finds a way to access the files from an exterior port...or NOT. 😬
@mawi2815 dont give her sudo permissions and nothing bad should happen
Before the ad even finishes, I can guess “Norton”
Rule of thumb that goes beyond software: If it’s advertised by RUclipsrs and Podcasts it’s junk 99% of the time.
Unless it's something directly on the OS, like Check Disk. I almost never listen when people recommend trash like Wondershare, Recuva and others. I once used CheckDisk to recover a whole corrupted drive.
Everything Tool
Glasswire
Window PowerToys
these are the best tools in the business
@PhonkEchoMalwarebytes?
@craftwanderer8802 Malwarebyte is the best by far i used. I used Avast and whatnot.
Nothing compare to malwarebyte.
I got an adware once, i downloaded Malwarebyte, it automatically quarantine the virus and it auto scan any files you download, if its suspicious it will auto quarantine.
To be fair I use IfixIt kits for work and personal use and it's a very solid kit. Little more expensive than Amazon generic kits but they're a good company and their bits seem to last longer.
I feel lucky, my Mom is paranoid enough to not click _any_ link in an email, without asking me to check it first.
Same with my mom.
The good old hey-son-antivirus
@PerticaJrthe most reliable 😂
Same. 😂 I think I’ve drilled that into my parents’ head well enough that they always have me check things if they’re not sure if they should click something.
Same
“What’s the one that started with an A?” Avast is probably what you’re thinking of, spent hours removing that little gem from a parents computer…
Or AVG.
Avira?
All three of those are trash from if I recall
Or Kaspersky
@Ironimo1 Weren't they the ones that figured out how to detect Pegasus spyware?
I work for a software company. And our clients are in healthcare. Most of those folks cannot even type a website address, let alone know what software they use. They call us and blame us for our software, and our hardware requirements are super low in the grand scheme of things. A lot of the time they have Mcafee, or Norton installed. Try telling someone who cannot even type a website address your software is not the one causing a slow computer! lol
Norton used to be awesome, but even Norton himself suggests not using it after he sold it. They turned it into a monster of a joke.
Same with McAfee. As Jay said, the history of that man is incredible. He made one of the first awesome malware tools then when he left, the new owners turned it into a moneygrab scam that ended up trusted by so many OEMs because of the money they paid and the history that it used to be good.
John McAfee himself made the most incredible video on how to uninstall it. I recommend looking it up. Yes, they really are actual hookers and I'm 100% sure that's not flour.
just like planet fitness
@Cymru1987 they at least still function as they are supposed to. Get rid of the idiots and it's fine. Norton can't be fixed.
Their BIOS scans and pre-OS scanners are still very good and were the only thing to detect a Rootkit that I knew I had due to computers weird behavior but could not locate otherwise. Best is you run it from a USB drive instead of installing anything. Highly recommend that and run periodic scan every 3 to 6 months or so .
@seditt5146 There are still significantly better programs out today than Norton. Like I said, it USED to be awesome, but not any longer.
Norton and McAfee are particularly sad cases because those of us with long memories (forty years, MS-DOS) remember when these were reputable companies selling useful utilities.
Yes, I have fond memories of using early versions of Norton Utilities on classic macOS to check and defrag my hard drive on a Mac Quadra 700. It used to be a really useful toolchest back then.
Norton was dirt like twenty years ago already. McAfee doesn't seem any better. And that is quite some time in such an industry.
@niemand7811 20 years ago was 2004. The time that is being referred to here is the 90s and before. In the those days, both were reputable companies and products. I would go as far as to call them the industry standard at the time for virus removal. That said, you are right, it certainly has been a long time now since that was true.
Zackly
i remember calling them Adware 40 years ago
When a product is free, then you are the product...
Damn right
Not with Linux, GNU. But mostly, you're right.
@9Lights tails os never fails hehe.... the feds of all countries hate it though! (heavily armored for privacy linux distro)
Not always true. There are programmers who build shit for utilitarian reasons. They love what they do, and give it away for free. Just look at the wide array of Linux builds.
Except F/OSS software.
I can confirm Norton. A PC I used at work was turtle-slow. Until I uninstalled Norton. It was like having a new machine.
The Prime Video app with ads is pure, soul-destroying cancer. I know that isn't a software issue but rather a business practice issue, but I'm so sick of ads on a service I pay money for partly to avoid watching ads on TV I had to mention it.
That's why I don't totally agree with Jay on pirate stuff. Yes, you shouldn't just download anything from anywhere. But if you know what you're doing, pirating isn't that bad, yes you do have to manually "update/reinstall" new versions every time, but you don't need to spend money on stupid stuff that only gives you more ads. I don't own any subscriptions to any streaming services, but I can still watch "new" movies/series and without ads. Oh and when you're torrenting, you should also watch out for torrent clients, because the most popular ones are in the same bracket as antivirus/boosting programs. You should know what you're doing with torrenting.
That’s getting insane. YT has gone full hog,(I won’t pay for premium ) I’m surprised I’m 2/3 through this video without an ad. But I tried watching Tulsa King a week before the elections, worst time to watch anything from a service.
The companies will stop playing these games when the customers stop paying.
Firefox with ad blocker 👌🏽 its the only way to watch shows on Prime video. It also works for hulu. (Android)
@Gjitdyi245 My Netflix is only £5.00 and I very rarely see adds, I do have two adblockers running for RUclips. Adblocker Ultimate and Ublock origin. I don't know if they work on Netflix, maybe that's why I don't see the adds🤔🤔
This is freaky, I work at Mattress Firm, and I literally talked to a lady about an email that she got from "Norton" saying they were charging her $500 for her subscription. I told her DON'T CALL THAT NUMBER! And then I watch this video...
Do you work at one of those weird Mattress Firms that is inexplicably directly across the street from another Mattress Firm?
@ZeusTheIrritable Not anymore, but I did once. The reason for that happening was because Mattress Firm bought a lot of other mattress retailers, but the lease on that store was for a set number of years. As a company, we are slowly fixing that problem.
@jandecoleman1 Damn. I was hoping to hear that there was genuinely that much demand for mattresses in certain places that it necessitated multiple stores in one location. Or, that it was a front for some huge drug cartel.
@ZeusTheIrritable Hiding the money under the mattress 🤣
I love how your comment was at the top of the list for me, and we have the same profile picture XD
as a network engineer that works for an ISP: If you're using a VPN, we don't care. At all. In any way whatsoever. In fact, if you're going to do dodgy stuff like torrents, we'd prefer you use a vpn, because that means less RIAA/MPAA/etc. complaint emails to deal with. As far as transit costs go, VPN use is just as expensive as non-tunnelled "naked" data throughput. There's no incentive to care.
So if Norton & McAfee are not recommended, what Security company is legit to use?
@patriciaschmitt6448 Windows defender. Its already installed on all computers and it is the best antivirus out there. You do not need any third party. Also, you cant get a virus or malware unless you are downloading things or visiting sketchy sites. Basically dont be dumb and click on stuff. And just let windows do its thing. You will be fine.
@johnfrank4996 Thank you so much! Finally, a great answer I've been looking for. This helps me out a lot. 👍
@drago6568 all an anti virus does is alert you " this is bad don't open/extract" practicing good opsec yourself is better than anything else.
Your local ISP may not, but Netflix and other similar services do. I used a VPN, and Netflix blocked it. This is especially concerning when the repeated pitch is Netflix when advertising VPNs. While a VPN encrypts your data and masks your data, its IP is not masked. Blacklisting known VPN server is simple.
Norton was just a toy after 2000, until now. But when you buy a new computer, it was already installed, and customers would call and say their computer was frozen and they didn't know why.
John McAfee had almost nothing to do with the Anti-Virus-Suite since 1994, after he stepped down in the company and esp. in 1997, when he sold the company.
And in the later years, he used to tell people not to install it.
It's still terrible.
I used mcafee webadvisor toolbar in the 2000s and it was okay but lots of false negatives like flash games sites came up as dangerous. Haha remember toolbars 😂😊
And in the later years he said he was embarrassed by the products carrying his own name.
There's a video of John McAfee addressing this. It's pretty legendary lol
Years ago I had speculated that Norton had hackers in their basement developing and deploying virus software into the internet so they would always have a reason to stay in business.
Mmm hmm. Complete racket.
That's Gates too. Even with the vaccines👀
Technically you are not wrong, there are hackers 'white hackers' (which you get a licence to do) a friend of mine used to be one many years ago before they became greedy. Viruses have to be hacked themself in order to get rid of them. but i can assure you they do not do this haha
I speculated that too lol
thats not so hard to believe. world is ful of scammers like that
Totally agree. Older folks in church ask me to help them buy laptops or PCs, and when they arrive, I do a full reset immediately and start with a clean image, and just grab the needed drivers. 👍
Microsoft windows is number 1 on that list🤣
100%. The same with a lot of people at my church. I want to start a PC literacy class in the near future to teach people about all the stuff normies typically don't know or understand. I would love to popularize Linux Mint: Debian Edition with people, using the windows like icons theme.
Thankfully my pastor is sharp and tech savy. Was previously a project manager at Siemens. He makes sure the church itself avoids using shifty stuff.
Drivers? Windows Updates does that automatically.
People act like we're still using Windows 7... I wish.
can you just reset windows without the code?
@hardbrocklife I switched to Linux Mint Cinnamon when MS stopped supporting XP. I have a laptop with Windows 10, but only for when I need to have a program that needs a Windows environment. I used to use WINE but I haven't used it in a while. I don't even know if it works with Windows 10.
Glad you addressed the OneDrive issue...its actually why I'm here. Was hoping you had a video on how to untangle from it permanently. Just had a brand new computer built & CANNOT figure out how to turn it off or de-tangle from it (to be fair I have some minor cognitive difficulties). I cannot possibly tell you how much I hate it. My built comp cost $2k and I'm still having so many problems trying to (not) save anything to with OneDrive as they will eventually charge you for storage. Until people are full, they probably don't realize it. They don't seem to understand that it has alienated me so much I would pay for it now even if I wanted it. It will NEVER happen!!!! I'd pay only to get rid of it PERMANENTLY. I do not understand why Microsoft is allowed to do this.
BonziBuddy not mentioned, we're so back BonziBros
Rest in piss. Forever miss.
I understand there is a current version of Bonzai Buddy, but it's ineffective on today's Windows versions.
Man I remember that tutorial by Ramzi on how to pirate Bonzi Buddy. That’s how I got it back in the day.
Back to monke
@Dave01Rhodes Ah yes. Ramzi lol. "Let's download some ware-ez". You just reminded me of Kevin Rose from those videos. I wonder what he's up to nowadays.
"the best way to not have to worry about wrapping your Jimmy is knowing where you're putting it is clean."
Sage advice, Jay.
put that on a t-shirt lol
It was a bit specific.
"Don't stick it in if you know it's a sin!"
After 2 ex wives you can NEVER be sure where you put it IS clean!
It's the truth. I had a nice lady from a place that we won't say gives massages say "Hey, I like you. Next time if you want to skip the protection." That was an instant nope! I like my life like my PC. I only play what I want how I want. The slightly safe sometimes crazy way.
First-time viewer. Kinda just nodded along with everything you were saying until the very end where you said Defender was good enough for most people. I almost caught on fire how quickly I slammed the Like button. I can't tell you how many people I've told this to. "What AV do I use then??" How about the free one that comes as part of your operating system, that most definitely knows what files belong there. And then my soul dies a little, having said something good about Microsoft.
“And then my soul dies a little…” LOL, that was hysterical. 😂❤
I've said that since it came out
It is a two-edged sword saying Defender is good. Unfortunately Defender doesn't protect you from Microsoft.
I think people still think of the days where defender wasnt exactly the greatest. But yeah nowdays no point even installing a secondary av
Today's adventures. Notice computer sluggish late last night, hardly swaps between apps. Does the same this morning. Looking in my sys tray for something and there MS is "Windows must reboot...." Holding my computer hostage until I do what they want.
Every time we ever get a new computer (a rare occasion), first thing my husband does is go through and rip virtually everything off of it.
So an easy rule to remember is from the Richard Serra quote, "If something is free, you're the product"
"Arasaka would like to know your location" ...
The Stupendium - data stream
Goddamit now I have that earworm again
Unless it's open source. Then you're a beta tester.
Not if you crack that program
@nubie1100 Well, I hate to be that guy, but if you cracked it, you didn't receive it for free, you stole it. If someone else cracked it you are probably still the product, you just don't know it. There is probably a botnet or crypto miner on your computer (or worse).
@GarethIzCoolAs a lot of people has already mentioned, if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing. Do it on big cooperation, but not on small creators.
Norton and McAfee have been crap for over 20 years. Back then, I was a computer tech and the amount of effort that it took to clean up the mess they left (god help you if it crashed during install) was insane. Calling them resource hogs is an understatement.
Yup totally agree. However in most, but not all cases the Mcafee and Norton removal tools usually do a pretty good job cleaning them off when the uninstaller fails.
I had to reinstall windows XP for a guy after he put 98 Norton on it. Don't use I told him. 2 hrs later. It doesn't work. I booted in safe mode. He had reinstalled Norton. I said "you're on your own" He took it to a shop and paid £100.
@markenetube My worst one was this guy who bought Norton at Walmart, installed it on his Windows ME, and it crashed during install. So he tried it again. Crash. Finally brought it to my shop, and this was before they put out their tools. It took me hours to clean it out of the registry, it wrote itself to an ungodly number of places. I installed a different AV for him, told him to see if he could get a refund. McAfee was just a major resource hog.
@markenetube
To be fair back in the XP days there was no built in security so it was typical to install a third party solution. But yes even back then Norton and Mcafees security suites could mess up an XP machine at the drop of a hat. Back then I always told my customers to stay away the suites and stick with most basic versions of these programs.
so what is a good virusscanner ? Is window security enough ?
What is annoying about VPN is that, while you use it for shopping or banking, many sites block it so you cant use it for exactly what you want to use it for to prevent theft of your sensitive data.
This makes me wonder if something like Firebug can temporarily bypass that. I used to use it all the time to break into paywalled movies. Good times
I don't have that problem. I found a highly recommended open source vpn (OpenVPN) that works quite well. I'm even considering turning one of my many PC's into a VPN server to host it, so I can feel confident about who's handling my VPN data.
Https and ssl already do that job... just make sure you dont connect to a phishing website...
I kinda thought it was always used primarily for pirating software, music and movies! I never understood how people can put things like their banking information online. Even using a VPN, remember, even the VPN provider can get access to your data due to its very nature.
@kiillabytez I do pretty much all my banking/investing online nowadays. I make sure the places I deal with have 2 factor authentication and robust security. When I started using the internet back in 1989 and several years after, I sure wouldn't do banking online.
But I'm pretty confident ITSec has improved enough to be reasonably safe.
And only a very shady (and criminally stupid) VPN service would snoop your traffic.
I'm seeing this a year later and the ending is perfect.
Before Norton was anti-virus software, it was an amazing set of tools for high-end PC users. It's so sad to see how far they've fallen. :(
Norton Utilities was great!
@kellyburris287 Norton Desktop was amazing too. It modernized Windows 3.1 quite a bit. Felt like using an OS from five years into the future!
I had Norton on my Commadore 64
Yea ... those were the [good old] days ................................... 😮💨
They were bought out by Symantec and no longer maintained.
Thanks for this. I've been a PC tech since 1996, and clients NEVER EVER listen to me about avoiding spurious websites. And then they call me when their PC is toast. Oh well, their ignorance keeps me in business.
Shady sites aren't that bad if you go in with proper protections in place, script blockers with overzealous settings, adblockers, a VPN, etc to ensure only the barest minimum is allowed to load.
But that requires a level of experience I don't expect out of anyone who hasn't been on the internet for 20 years.
@slamshift6927 No kidding. And that's why I urge my clients to AVOID click-bait and email scams. It's simply too easy to click on a link that takes your browser to a trojan/virus/phishing page. But they never learn. Ugh.
I like them dumb !
Thats about when I started fixing them aswell. No one ever listens to the tech they think we don't know anything. But who's the first one they run to when his/her PC dies? lol
My first pc was an IBM 486 tower PC. And 90% of the time it was on, was spent defragging the hard disc drive. Yeah, I'd run it about once a week, but it was something that took several hours to complete. That computer was so old that it originally had DOS, SHELL and Windows 3.1 on it. And I still had to use command prompt to search for and run exe files.
"YOU ARE A PROGRAMMER. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS SH**." absolutely sent me 🤣 people are so funny
Yeah. People should start going beyond a simple “programmer” classification in colloquial terms. It’s just too broad. I’ve had friends who are spectacular engineers in very specific programming areas wondering if a vpn connection would lower their latency to a server.
The most hilarious ones are the "RAM defragmenters" They do nothing but fill up the rest of the RAM by allocating every single bit left and then just dump it all at once. Like if that's doing anything meaningful.
@somebodysomeone23 Hmm, tbh that's a legit question, and the answer is yes, it will lower the latency to a server if the routing is pretty bad to begin with.
@SviatoslavDamaschin nope
@somebodysomeone23 Educate yourself then :)
This. All of this. I’m bookmarking this to send to a chunk of our home clients. Thanks Jay.
8:05 Hello from the future. So about Honey....
Hahaha thanks, I was thinking about writing something like this😂
Whatever happened to Honey? I never heard about it again
@Bikkurine Honey is basically scamming half of the internet.
@Bikkurinethey took the affiliate commission anytime a code that gave a discount worked.
So if this channel was sponsored by honey and paid to advertise to use honey thru their link “in the description” the backend of the plugin would apply said discount but “rewrite the coding” so that the affiliate code came from honey and not the channel they paid to advertise. So honey takes the money from that affiliate link and make back their ad payment to the channel.
9:01 The algorithm knew what it was doing recommending me this video after Honey got exposed.
Lol
I often got blamed for "breaking" our family pc. And ive believed it.
After i got a laptop for my birthday i havent used the family pc. About 8 months pass and the charger dies, so i had to use the family pc.
The keyboard was covered in sunflower seed shells and spilled tea with sugar. But that wasnt the worst part, the pc had 3 different antiviruses, 4 browsers(2 were chrome reskins), tons of search tabs and other stuff. Still not the worst part, a week after that i got blamed for "breaking" the family pc again. The pc i havent used in almost a year, which they had free range of and installed tons of garbage on, you got popups on the desktop, some from the antiviruses themselves.
Back when I was 12 or 13, I went through the same thing. I am a software engineer now but even now my family doesn't listen to me when I say certain boosting software don't work. Even after explaining, they don't want to listen to it.
Easy enough to replace the dead charger with a new one, for not very much money. Better than dealing with your computer illiterate family.
@selfhosted_sg truest shit i've heard in a while.
I have four browsers, but my top two are for different things (like being logged into two accounts on the same site), I have Chrome installed because some people are like, "yOu hAvE To hAvE ChRoMe tO Do tHe tHiNg!" and I keep Edge around for the, "If it doesn't work here, the site may be broken" situations. 😂
😂😂😂
I'm glad I watched this. Going to check ask my extensions
I don't even click links in emails I do trust. Financial places I go directly to them and log in, just in case.
Bank's just shouldn't use links in their messaging, and traint user's that their messages don't have links
Yep, I do the same.
I got sent an email from CaixaBank saying my data had been lost and I had to create another password, and I was like "hold on, I don't even have a CaixaBank account, these morons tried to scam me"
Truth. Don't use links, use URLs and history. Heck, even your bookmarks are somewhat safer than links.
This is the way.
The FIRST general rule to avoid any scams (apart from never click on a link within an email) is, if you receive an email that says ANYTHING about being charged at all then call your credit card company and check your purchases THERE. Do not call any numbers they give you. Call the number on your statements. Basically, when checking, stick to things you know are reputable / real.
Or you could just use your common sense and never put any of your financial details online anywhere ever.
@owenorders5202 that's what credit cards are for. If your info gets out its 100% covered by the bank.
To piggy back off OP: I never respond directly to anything. No mail, calls, anything. I contact the company myself through normal channels always. Phishing isn't only done via email.
Can't you just check the banking app? Or does US not have them?
@dkail08 Not only do I never do any financial transactions online, but nowhere online do I ever post my real name or any personal details about anything. I do get regular phone calls from scammers and I enjoy wasting their time. But to those who do think that it's slick and trendy to do banking online, I say this: scammers and their equipment are getting more sophisticated every year; so, in the not too distant future it will become very hard for the banks and credit card companies to establish that you actually were defrauded, and they will make it harder and harder for you to be reimbursed, because if they settled all the claims, they would quickly become, well, bankrupt.
@KEN4K
We have banking apps in the US.
I had a pain in the rear client who was notorious to messing up his PC in a very short time, even brand new ones.
So after I used to setup his PCs in perfect condition and before I gave it to him I used to take and save a full image of the whole disk drive.
So after his famous catastrophes, which was inevitable, I used to quickly restore the image in a very short time and now all is just perfect again.....for the time being.
Luckily for him he could afford all this mayhem and I made a lot $$$ helping this troublesome soul.
😂 win-win
But you lost his recent documents & data each time!
@exploreworldbirds Not really, as I have setup OneDrive for him with automatic backups so he is always protected and safe.
I had to tell people to stop messing with settings they know nothing about !!
Why didnt you just remove his admin rights?
don't forget to download some more RAM
Just downloaded 2tb. lol
I get that with bonzai buddy. Makes the computer much more usable
just stop dude🤣
😂😂😂. Download RAM?? AHH gotta love the internet
Thats sooooold you need GPU power downloader 😅
You just confirmed all I suspected. Thank you very much !!!
9:05 - Jay mentioned Honey! Dude called them out and said he doesn’t trust extensions such as Honey. Thanks Jay!
I'll never forget this error I got using Norton back in the 90s: Norton cannot detect Norton. I've never gone back, lol
That takes me back. I remember seeing that exact warning.
ISPs will see a large rebellion if they deny work VPNs.
With net neutrality being restored, they also risk getting sued and hit by the FCC if users can prove they aren't doing anything illegal while they're being throttled.
and what do people wanna do about it? Go offline? Yeah, good luck with that.
Naah, despite what every youtuber in existence will tell you, you don't need a VPN.
@daniellundberg2875been torrenting for over a decade. No VPN. No issue. ISP don't care anyway
@daniellundberg2875 He is talking about work VPNs which you DO need to you know.... WORK
Good info, I am guilty of having multiple (decades ago) A/V programs and performance tweak programs.
I'm so glad you discussed Norton and McAfee. I've told people to stay away from those for 20 years.
So what should people use then?
@Triforcebro nothing. Windows Defender is good enough
@Triforcebro If you really want to add another layer to the system already built into Windows, then all I can say is "Do your research." All I can tell is that the last third party anti-virus program I used was "eset" - but I haven't used it in many years, so I can't vouch for how it operates today.
@steveg1961 Eset and Malwarebytes is pretty good
@Triforcebro Linux MInt :)
My dad is not that old and despite having moved on, he worked with computers a lot when he was younger. Back when we only had a family computer we had to share, you would not believe how hard I fought with him because he kept installing three different anti virus and then complained the pc was slow
😭💀
Pain. Once had mcaffee installed on my old laptop and it was so hard to get rid off completly with windows 7
@ToxicMothBoi😂😂😂 Windows! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did you notice, the antivirus programs often identify the other anti virus programs viruses that have been isolated, as active viruses. That was the day I discovered Norton Antivirus program was useless junkware.
@ToxicMothBoi This is true, literally had McAfee try and hijack the family computer when I was a kid. I ended up having to do the partition thing in order to get to a place where I could clear the mess out.
About 20 years ago, if that, a nurse friend of mine, who was recently disabled, put Norton Utilities on her new computer... the computer all but froze. It took FOREVER for just one web page to load, if at all; the same for all programs on her computer. She was in a wheelchair, was somewhat of a computer novice, and called me for help. I'd say it took me between 50 and 60 HOURS to get Norton-Not-So-Useful-Utilities off her computer. After that, wiping her hard drive and reinstalling her operation system and programs was a comparative "walk in the park." For years now, when asked about Norton, I say, "RUN!"
FOOTNOTE: getting rid of McAfee, some years later, cured many undiagnosable, and annoying, issues on my computer.
The original Norton Utilities, back on classic Mac, worked wonders. I really did love it, particularly the defragmenter. That was then... this crap is now.
I had to do this three seperate times, Norton was garbage.
I guess back then, the notion of removing the hard-drive and attaching it as a secondary/slave drive to another computer wasn't so known. Would have saved you some time.
By the way on modern windows (since at least 2006) there's something called a safe mode which boots without non-essential items, this will make sure Norton and other crap don't launch at startup so you can remove it.
I had a similar problem with Norton and couldn't uninstall it. When I asked Symantec how to get it off my PC the answer I got was "why would you want to?". Well, I got rid of it in the end and I never used it again.
The original Norton was great. It was only after Symantec took it over that it went downhill. Stay away from Symantec.
So what service would you use for protection? If I can get rid of another yearly subscription then I’d love to do so. I just want to make sure I have something that can actually protect my computer
Thank you. I used the info from this video when setting up my new laptop.
This channel’s war on convenient video chapters continues
wat about bonsai buddy
I stayed to the very end and was NOT disappointed. Great video!
Very brave of Jay to do this. These guys will never sponsor him. Guess he has moral fiber and is not a shill. Thanks for giving us the honest truth Jay.
Nord used to sponsor him lol
Jay would never accept a sponsor from them anyways so no loss.
@andyinfared Yep. And he dropped them as soon as their trust was lost. He did a complete talking head video on this if I remember correctly.
He is quite the hypocrite though talking about spyware while running windows and edge.
@MegaLokopo Don't use any browser that uses Chromium if that's what your comment is going to be.
Fantastic Video!
The mcafee story is insane, people should def watch that and it would change their mind, 100% of not using that sh*t.
90% of all laptops come with that STD pre-installed. Came installed in my new laptop, obviously, it was gone at the very first boot
He sold the company to management over 25 years ago. He tried to get his name back but it was part of the deal. Is he still in a Spanish fridge?
@codytarbotton7017He faked his own death and is now ruling over an underground goblin realm.
Do not uninstall Microsoft parts as onedrive just configure them to not do anything. Works much better that way.
What do you mean? the man himself told you not to install his software and had nothing to do with the company for near 20 years
I wonder if there's a universe out there where Jay actually remembers to link things he says he will in the description. Like at least once...
😂🤣😂
At least he made sure to put the affiliate links in there.
ya i noticed that lol
VPNs are a necessity in some countries due to censorship. I appreciate that you live in a free country where this isn't an issue, but for those of us who don't, we need it to actually surf the internet.
America is far from a free country. Hyper intrusive surveillance and spies everywhere and if you don't toe the line, they make your life miserable.
Free country?
Thanks for the giggles!
There isn't a single country on this planet that doesn't censor the internet in some form or another.
You only get to see what your overlords decide you can see.
Come to the West and try accessing certain sites, you will promptly be told you're not allowed to read/hear/see those opinions.
Even your ISP will block sites from you.
None of us are free my friend, it's all an illusion.
this was written from the UK for those wondering
@mrtastyshots Well, yes and no. I am British, but I wrote this when I was abroad in a different surveillance state.
I mostly use it to avoid geoblocks
15:10 Narrator: there is no link to the uninstaller in the description.
Jay always says that a specific link will be included in the description box and guess what, it’s NEVER there. This happens EVERY TIME and I’ve been watching this channel for sometime now.
It is honestly driving me crazy, come on Jay!
@jessicalawson1417 I don’t think it’s Jays fault here, I think it’s Phil, he does the editing and so he should be including them but then again as he’s forgotten then it’s Jays fault, he should remind him or have it written so that Phil remembers to include it.
PHHIILLLLLL WHEATON!
PHILLLLL!!!!
TBF on this one in particular he mentioned they crashed their site last time by doing this, I guess he didn't put 2 and 2 together in the moment and decided after the fact that maybe lets not do that again, or at least not this soon lol...
14:49 where is the link?
100% on Norton and McAfee. It can take several hours to fully get rid of them.. Or so you think they are gone.. lol
Just for a new Lenovo laptop from my employer, and it had McAfee pre-installed on it. We un-installed McAfee since that's not the anti-virus we use, and we STILL get McAfee pop-ups daily saying our protection is expired. It's the software that won't go away.
I had to get an IT tech friend of mine to spend an hour or two clearing it from my laptop completely. He uninstalled it but there were still traces of it somewhere and it was completely stopping me from using the programs I had specifically purchased the computer for. He fine-tooth-combed through the computer and finally got it all. I refuse to have anything to do with McAfee ever again. So shady.
I still own a lenovo that had McAfee too from 2017. Didnt have such problem removing it. Hjnestly i let it run a year for test and noticed it didnt protect me at all but defender did after i removed McAfee. Since then i jave Defender+IOvit antinalware and regularly running PE OS with AV too
The worst cases were Norton + Mcafee at the same time, try it if you want to see how slow things can be.
Its worse then virus itself 😂
use uninstallers like revo, works like a charm.
Final lines... sums it up fine. Useful info. Thanks!
I actually got both Norton and McAfee scam emails and even got followed up with an email saying that I was charged on a paypal account I didn't even have.
I always laugh at those 'charge to a service you don't use' ones.
Oh no, how terrible!
Good video, two points from a security perspective:
1. Do NOT install any free VPN software on your phone or computer, theres a different danger here. When you look at the EULA, alot of them basically turn your host into a VPN tunnel for someone else. So you could be unwittingly be used for attack campaigns without knowing, this could open you up to liability in certain countries.
2. Theres LESS of an issue with open wifi networks right now with modern security practices eg. HTTPs everywhere etc. Still some dangers, but its not the MITM-heaven it was in the past.
48 years... nobosdy attacks.... I got zero security.. why.. there's no information saved on my system that can comprimise me :-) so technically I'm untouchable ..... :-) neet security huh?
There is amnezia vpn which is open source. I dont think they even have an eula. So it should be safe.
Just make your own VPN. It costs a dollar or two to rent a cloud slot, and takes 5 minutes to go from purchase to running the OVPN or WG install script.
The main reason to use a VPN is to secure your PC, I use Nordvpn because they do not keep logs of your activity, and have no requirement to report what you are accessing, since the company is in Panama . Free Vpns are not secure, and do not protect your activity.
@sgholt A VPN is just a tunnel for traffic to pop out at a different location. It does not secure your PC.
I remember around 2010 I had a new laptop and read that the camera could be turned on without the owner's knowledge.
I removed the program, it was re-installed, I removed it again, etc. That was shocking and a revelation of how constantly users were even then being data collected and spied on.
I had already covered the lens but I wanted it off my computer. I also stuck silly putty over the microphone to mute it.
Put a piece of tape over the camera.
@jeddiajones That was the same advice a politician said ages ago. My camera lights up with a green light when on but I still point it to the ceiling when not in use.
You can disable it in the BIOS. Disable Intel ME (Intel "safety" features LOL), too if you can while at it. And then put a tape over it and the mic for just in case. ;)
I just bought a laptop with no camera.
@denisgraham2484 Some people get the laptops from work and have to use them. You can't change anything on them. The black electricians tape and silly putty are probably your best bet in those cases. You can take them off and clean it up relatively easily, and reapply just as easily. Even if you're fired, they can't say you damaged the equipment because of how easily it is to remove it. A hair dryer will ensure the tape and tackiness come off clean.
You are so natural! No forced fake mainstream RUclipsr voices and weirdo gestures & overhypes... Refreshing!
The bloatware was so bad on my friends brand new laptop that it literally took 15 minutes to start, that is not an exaggeration. He wanted me to see if I could do anything and I didn't think it was bloatware but a problem with the computer itself. Well after doing a full backup image, then installing windows clean, it started like it was nuthin. I couldn't believe it, a mainstream PC store was selling a line of laptops with bloatware so bad it makes a brand new laptop start up for 15 minutes before you can do anything. This was in 2011.
Bloatware and single channel ram are normal laptop traits when you buy a new laptop these days
I'm willing to bet millions of dollars it didn't literally take 15 minutes to boot
@Suyneej it could with a old enough drive that was slow enough it could seriously take 15 minutes to boot mech drive do slow down over time so it's possible that one could slow down enough to slow down windows boot so it took 15 minutes
@Suyneej An HDD with a ton of bloatware installed? Yep, that's possible.
It's been like that for a while. I used to work for an outsourced call center that took calls for a well known warehouse retailer. I'd get customers who would call in the same day after buying thier pcs complaining about pop-ups and virus alerts. It was always bloatware. We just walked them through a factory reset. A lot of customers just returned them, though.
Anyone else scream AVG when he was trying to remember the other antivirus? lol
or Avast
Avira
AVG! That was the other one I was thinking of. But I thought maybe it was Avast.
Lol i had that on my first laptop
AVG was junk. I used Avast for years and it did the job but it too went commercial and turned into junkware. Now, I don't go on line using Windows. I use Linux as its safer and more stable, and antivirus software is not needed. You can stick your Linux Jimmy just about anywhere with out fear.
Man! So glad to see somebody calling out all of this garbage! A shop I contract repair work for deals with this on a daily basis, and people will actually push back thinking that we're giving them bad advice about these junk programs. It's a real pain some days.
Send them this video.
Heh a long time ago (23 years) I worked in Phone Tech support for Gateway Computers, and this was even then a constant issue to the point we had a canned response "WE DON'T PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, YOU INSTALL IT AT YOUR OWN RISK" if certain software was found on a customers PC they would be asked to uninstall it, if they refused it ended our support and we could close the call.
LOL! This video has several instances of misinformation, half truths, and even some flat out lying.
Keep up the good work Jay! I love your videos.
Your Ifixit ad literally makes me lol every time.
For two summers in a row while I was still in school, my full time job was to work for an IT department at a factory going through all the new PC's they were buying and deleting all the garbage software they had preinstalled. It was such a long process that even doing it full time, it took me 6 months.
Wouldnt it be much faster to just reinstall the OS?
@raffypasalo it would, or even have image ready. But then he would not have a full time job ;)😂
@raffypasalo In the 80's we had a program for the Mac . This was the time when typing pools existed. The program would display a warning that water had been found in the hard drive. "Please standby while the water is being pumped from your hard drive". A schematic of the process with animated, pixel graphics would appear on the screen. Fun stuff.
Did you do mannually?😮
A bit of PowerShell knowledge could cut deleting process to just mere minutes (depends how fast system is and how much needed to be deleted).
(If clear install was not an option)
Oh, remember my struggles uninstalling Norton many years ago. I am pretty tech savvy, but that almost bested me!
That one and McAfee antivirus. Those programs are like cancer on a pc. They put files everywhere that don't go away just because you uninstall the program.
You clearly never found out the single Norton uninstaller tool that has been around for absolutely years. Run it and it uninstalls all of the Norton software. Not very tech savvy after all are you ?....😅😅😅
Idk how many times I have tried to fix a client's computer, can't figure out why it's not working, and then see Norton is preventing me from doing something basic, like sharing a printer. And you can't uninstall it, because it belongs to the customer, and they probably wasted money on it.
RevoUninstaller will scan for loose files and delete it ALL.
I remember when it kept telling me, it could not delete stuff, because the process was still running, so i renamed random files, so the processes would crash, since i had no idea what task manager was or how to uninstall programs.
Good to know I can delete most of MSI stuff. Now I'll look up what exactly can be deleted safely. Thanks!
These are the same recomendations I've been giving people for years.
Thank you, for verifying from a trusted source.
02:11 a story of what...? I just love when censorship of harmless words completely screw up the information that is presented.
PUP-ware really needs to be talked about today. Remarkable how much crap that used to come with an app and the uninstaller was even a junk PUP that would install other crap while you removed an app.
Love your comparison there at the end… CY from Vegas!
Hey jay. I just wanted to say. I know this isn’t relevant to you or anyone here. But watching your videos have helped me tremendously with my mental health. Dealing with life and difficult things. I always find myself here watching your videos and it brings me comfort as a pc guy myself. I’m not the smartest with them but I do learn everyday. And I wanted to say thank you. Ik you don’t know me. But In this weird way your videos have helped save my life. Much love brother and keep it up
I get it. When I was struggling through PTS and couldn't relate to other people, video games with NPC companions helped me rebuild my social skills and my ability to care about something. They were a major therapeutic tool for me.
I hear you! Just keep plugging away at daily life, and keep learning! When you are at rock bottom, you can only go up. I'm not the smartest either, but I've been doing this stuff since 1990, and knowledge is your best friend. Just keep doing what you do. Other people will appreciate you.
Outstanding. If you ever want to go deep into learning and how these suckers run, I can help. I keep tech reference manuals as they are my sanity and helpers.
Give this guy more likes so Jay can see this.
My feelings exactly; it has also helped me.
Adobe Acrobat Updater is practically a virus. There are so many software installers that by default will install Adobe Acrobat Reader and the updater. If you uninstall Acrobat, the updater is still running and puts it back. I've seen PCs with like 10 disabled acrobat updaters in the startup.
Adobe requires connection to up to 38 Web sites to run its own updater. Try running that through Cabs for a locked down firewall...
Yep - pretty much all pdf readers - just use your browser
can you explain that to more mate, I'm not well versed in that @lightwoven5326
I have managed fine with Foxit for some time, at least when I need to make changes/edits/form-fill. It is free and I never see anything from it unless I open it. They even have an option to disable their ad banner in settings. xD
Yeah, I use the full version at work allot and because of this I have a "unlocked" version at home, an old one, and the amount of blocks in .host file and such needed to keep the updater or other away is a pain in the A.
I’m impressed your Dad could actually run both Norton and McAffe. They used to not even run after the other was installed because of the mess they left in the registry!
Love the end
Thanks jay I was wanting to try out the whole back alley experience before I watched this video but now I’m having second thought’s
I once had a system booster. I turned off the usual features, but kept it to clean the drive and some system folders from junk, which accumulated a bunch of GB over the years. Back, when a 250GB drive was outrageous.
Crikey it's like we have the same father! I've banged on about these same things to my family and friends for years mainly in an effort to stop them contacing me about problems on computers all the time, glad to hear an American cousins has the same thoughts and problems as me. Great video content by the way.
Back in 2011 a friend of mine had a shared home computer. His parents had Norton that they just kept from back in the day when they first got a computer and for some reason Norton Flagged the Win32 files have malicious and started deleting them. It was incredibly hard to stop the process and get everything under control and haven't trusted Norton since.
Hey Jay, glad to see you back. Hope you're feeling better
The 1st Comps I was ever let loose on, were Apple IIe's & Apple II's running BASIC on a monochrome screen. This was between 89-91 when I was in Elementary School. The Thang I member doin the most was, yupp U guessed it,
"The Oregon Trail."
Wow! I've been telling people not to use these software apps for years, and it's good to see supporting comments that will reach more audiences.
Same here dude. I worked in the tech sector for years & you would not believe the problems that arose from Norton, caffeine & bloatware.
People would get so pissed off with me because they seen Norton as a hugely successful antivirus. If it's huge, it must be good.
I once had the time to show someone how badly it wove itself through the registry & they were totally shocked.
It wouldn't surprise me if they installed rootkits with their AV suites.
Prebuilds were always a nightmare.
The last part is the best advice ever!