Now that I am sixty years old, I am starting to get an inkling of what my father experienced in his life. He was born in 1931 in a cabin in Quebec. He always remarked that he was born before televisions and there were very few telephones and family cars; he remembered his expression of disbelief was “Sure! And let’s just go to the moon while we’re at it!” when he was a child. I remember when tv’s were black and white, and only picked up two channels….. but only if the weather was good. I remember milkmen and collect calls and dressing in my best to go to the doctor, church, and when flying. I remember thinking how awesome it was when I got my first push-button phone (and it was attached to the wall in the kitchen). When I see projects like this, I think back to how far we have come since I was born in 1964 and I wonder what my grandchildren will be looking back upon when they reach my age.
It is truly amazing. The sad part is we are using this technology for destructive purposes. Just think of all the productive life enhancing things that could be accomplished.
When I was a kid before 1975,the waters were clean & rubbish free & the Straits of Malacca was green/blue.Today the waters are neither clean nor rubbish free & the straits is black.I wonder what future humans will think of us when we are compared to our predecessors.
@@ncg5560 to be fair darpa tech always moves into the public market eventually examples include GPS, Internet, and screens (they were not the sole source but were involved)
I was born in 1983 and am 40, and I'm already starting to feel this quite a bit. I remember thinking I was so cool when I got my own seperate phone line in my room before cell phones in the 90s, I remember moving one town over and me and my best friend promising we would stay in touch because that felt like a world away before social media in high school. Technology is weird, it feels like it makes many things better but many things worse. And it keeps growing at an accelerated rate. I can't even imagine the world by the end of MY lifespan, nevermind long after that!
There's potential, but it's highly unlikely a nuclear device is deployed without direct control over it at all times. Fun to ponder, but no, it's not happening.
If the future of naval warfare will be drone-centered as it currently seems it will be, then an additional use case for the manta ray might be to function as a sort of logistics network. It can set up small recharge stations and communication points ahead of other drones that could either be cheap kamikaze style drones, or more expensive drones capable of bearing other armaments. Not sure how realistic that is, but I do think this drone sounds a little on the large and especially expensive end to be used as a kamikaze drone itself.
I've said it before and I'm happy to say it again: I consider your offerings and those from Alex Hollings to be the the most genuine and honest channels for these types of discussions. Never see any clickbait or over the top BS headlines. Thank you for continuing your excellent work...
16:00 - Alex Hollings is a frickin JOKE - US was able to track Russian subs since before the Cuban Missle Crisis. Look up SOSUS - Could detect a sub over 3,000 miles away and US new where every Russian sub was at all times xD China copied that program in recent years as "The Underwater Great Wall."
17:30 somewhere in a darpa office: Hey we got this cool new toy but what can we do with it? someone else: i dunnno, let's release the information to the public and monitor youtube for ideas
yeah sure. For every one DARPA project make public, you can bet that a couple more are secret. War is all about deception and misdirection. You give too much credit to the "super geniuses" on youtube. If we you say is true, youtube would have solved quantum gravity, cure for cancer, cold fusion.
Projects like these aren't discussed unless they're already several steps ahead in development, so this thing already has the ability to fight and reconnoiter. When Russia revealed Poseidon, it was obvious the US already had its version.
I was thinking along those same lines - and this may end the submarine(s) that carry up to four Poseidon drones. Wonder if the weapons it carries are capable of being nuclear. One snark here: they won't be needed against the Iranian "Navy," if recent events (the Iranians have developed a kind of autonomous ship: the self-sinking type)
omg im so tired of this goofy idea that a computer will be "sentient".... and what is it going to do? you mean to tell me there's humans that built this technology but there's no kill switch or manual override????? it's like we are so conditioned living with electricity 24/7 that we forget all it takes is for the power to shut off and none of the technology works anymore.
@@BeachLookingGuy Only someone who knows nothing about AI would say this. Actually understand the topics before you go forming ignorant opinions on them.
These things like the drone in this video, that we hear about are things I'm sure that's been worked on and developed for years, I think these are amazing, I just hope it's something that's sustainable and could be quickly produced in time's of need.
I think these things aren’t meant to be mass produced imo, but more to decimate the other guy for as long as possible until we as a country are in a mass production capable state, the amount of reserves we have allow for for to fight for 6 months without any resupply if the worst were to come
Those will be the primary target and test bed. It is hard enough to patrol and spot the homemade subs, but a fleet of these drones could patrol tirelessly. All they have to do is ping sonar and report when it sees abnormal pings.
DARPA has demonstrated water-vehicles that use 'wings' to sail much like an airplane. They trade small changes in depth for forward travel...20:1 glide-slope is easy in water. Internal bladders control buoyancy of the vehicle. Quite energy efficient, absurdly quiet. Perfect for silent missions.
And that forward momentum (upward or downward) can be used to generate electricity. The only issue is whether there is is enough depth to compensate for powering the bladders.
I saw stuff like that at least 15 years ago. There was a large underwater flying wing robot from a university, called Liberdade back around 2010ish making use of a highly efficient process to glide for very long periods of time (something to do with paraffin and the thermocline). manta ray looks similar in some ways.
@@TheInfidel_SlavaUA LMFAO, I worked on an underwater robot for the oil an gas industry and that was exactly its working principle. it was all about easily gliding to the sea bed, until somebody pointed out the hard part was getting back up to the surface (several years later).
there is a even more efficient drive system that hobbyist have made that is even quieter its called the manta drive it mimics the way a manta ray swims instead of propellers it uses a crankshaft with push rods to move the wing to generate extremely efficient movement the same way real manta rays can cross entire oceans with little effort. combined this with a very low metal design keeping it the size of a normal manta ray would make it nearly undetectable while still carrying enough explosives to disable a port or sink a ship
The possibilities and potential of this metal beast make this undoubtedly one of the most awesome and charming machines ever drawn up. At least in my eyes
Didn’t SeaQuest have a similar type of vehicle, I recall something like that but I think it was smaller and could dock with the sub, such a great show they should reboot it
I seen several articles about this flying under sea concept over 30 years ago besides the TV shows. I take that back I think Aquaman arch enemy had a Manta Ray Sub in DC comics over fifty years ago.
My thoughts? 1. The visibile screws are not used for propulsion, except if the drone is damaged in some way to make the main drive non-functional. No, these are the generators that are feathered when in active propulsion. 2. The two eyes are intakes to a non-MHD tunnel drive that provides backpressure against it's internal turbines (tesla turbines would be good, they are bladeless) to prevent cavitation. This would be used for attack speed manouvers. 3. The leisure drive system that takes almost no power would be a ballast purge and fill system that would cause propulsion by gliding up, and down the water column as it changes depth. Already used in some ocean drones, and very effective. 4. The vertical stab is not needed, don't expect it on the final version. The drone appears to have two beautiful alierons (hydrons?) on the trailing edge of the wing, and we know how Northrop/Grumman likes brakeable flaperons on the rear of it's stealth aircraft. Getting rid of the vertical stab would decrease the Manta's sonar visibility profile dramatically.
Honestly I think there’s an even more obvious use for them, parking them on the sea floor just outside of PRC territorial waters in arcs around PLAN submarine bases with a pair of Mk54 torpedoes on board and when war kicks off use them to sink PLAN submarines as they leave base for open water.
PRC can also park them on American coasts. They probably have drones that mimic their submarines sonar signatures and pop your torpedoes. And they can churn them out faster and cheaper with their industrial capacity.
Knowing this, they will deploy their submarines to open water BEFORE the war begins. This is why a large advantage is conferred on the one who chooses the timing of the offensive.
@@JoeSmith-tc6eg I feel like the time frame is decreasing on these items and secrets are harder to keep. Yes the SR-71 took a long time to show up, and the F-117 took a little less time, but the B-2 stealth bomber was publicly disclosed even before the first flight in 1988. I don't think the B-1 was ever all that secret, they were having too many budget fights over it Then again, it's a submarine, it's not like we can see it like an airplane, maybe the idea for it has been 20 years in the making, but the computer power to make it truly autonomous, might just be showing up now. The self driving car projects are showing how hard this unmanned stuff can be.
In 1994 I sat down for a coffee with a mentor at work and talked to him about my idea for an electronic book reader with just a screen and a couple buttons that you could insert a "book chip" into. Of course, I couldn't program or build circuitry.....but then Sony came out with the Librie, Discman, & Rocket and in 2007 Amazon came out with the Kindle and in 2010 Jobs came out with the iPad. At least I can enjoy the convenience now.
The Manta Ray is / was in my backyard in Port Hueneme, CA. Bow to stern the Manta measures approx. thirty-two feet, wing tip to wing tip the Manta measures approx. forty-six feet. It can be seen on Google Earth (11/09/23 and 3/06/24) in Port Hueneme, CA at: 34° 9'12.98"N, 119°12'31.07"W.
@@GrimKreeper P.S. to previous comment I made the ship in the background at time stamp 6:11 is the Self Defense Test Ship USS Paul F. Foster DD964 which can be seen at the coordinates I posted previously.
....A lot of people are saying the Manta Ray is operating in the Black Sea, feeding information on Russian ship positions to Ukraine. That's why Russia has lost so many ships....hundreds of miles offshore.
@@svenw-u3f Foreign Affairs was speculating about it in 2022. Because satellites are not nearly as accurate as terrestrial/sea based intelligence assets. They also said Ukraine may even have something similar, but procured it from a 3rd party. Nobody really knows for sure.🤷♀️
I know that this is similar to the Ray Metal Gears, but it honestly reminds of Peace Walker too. It's basically an underwater version of the land-based, nuclear equipped, AI controlled Peace Walker.
eh, not really. DARPA and the military like to dream big and talk like this does sometimes rattle enemy forces, but not everything dreamed up succeeds. It did make it to Stage 2, so things were promising, Stage 2 managed some prototypes, but getting to Stage 3 is a LOT of work. You have to turn that (usually) single prototype into something that can pass all requirement testing AND be producible. Think super-car. They can hand-build a Lamborghini in a workshop, but imagine now having to build that same car 10 a week or 50 a week plus meet the cost target the government will actually spend. Military hardware IS expensive and they spend a lot, but the contracts come with limitations.
If it is already in Stage 3 then it is likely already a usable product. It is no different than the state of AI. Right now we have AI enhancements on numerous systems, but much of it is still manually controlled. Actual visibility for a crew in a submarine is limited, so a remote control submarine would be equal or better if the power system, communications, and stealth system are all a success. Making the device where it can function autonomously when you want it to wait in deep waters would be necessary. It could then be triggered when needed with use of human commands to start a battle sequence or repositioning sequences. A few dozen of these devices within range of Taiwan and the Philippines in the East Asia waters could wreck havoc if a naval invasion of Taiwan was attempted. A group of these could also be used in combination with a battle group of ships as a monitoring system to function with a manned submarine in searching for enemy submarines.
There’s two reasons we get to know about DARPA projects publicly. 1. They’ve already been built, deployed, and in use for years or 2. It’s FUD, Fully Unrealized Documentation meant to confuse and intimidate adversaries that we might just be capable of this sorta shit.
@@MatthewTheWandereror they have nothing to compete the rest of the world. Looks like a copy of what Russia has been using for surveillance for over 15 years.
In this case it may be just that it doesn't matter! Even if you know about those things... What are you able to do about it? China and Russia will have a very hard time finding those things on the sea floor when they aren't actively communicating. So what!? Darpa can let anyone know about those things
It could also be that Intel on them had already leaked out to adversaries, so there's no point in keeping the project a secret - making lemonade out of lemons...
Maybe true. The disadvantages of those things are numbers I guess. So the fear of them might do more then the mantas themselves. The sea is a VERY BIG place! And the mantas can make it dangerous for ships and subs. But at the end of the day each Manta costs millions and can carry maybe 1-4 Torpedos (wich may not even be enough to sink one ship). So until the US really has hundreds or thousands of them in the water the most value they can get out of it is propaganda and fear
If you don't mind a very low data rate, you can communicate with something under the ocean using ELF radio. Basically you transmit at something down below 1KHz, perhaps as low as 20Hz. The receiver basically detects variations in the magnetic field. Over a period of several minutes, you can send a message effectively in a very narrow bandwidth. In fact, the information would be sent in a spread spectrum manner so that the signal would be less obvious. Return signals may not be practical because of the power demand of a transmitter.
Return signal from the pods. Elf requires a very long antenna. An antenna should be a wavelength, which is much longer than any sub could ever be (maybe kilometres)
@@stevenpace892 A magnetic loop antenna works find for ELF. It can be resonant to the frequency in question. With a coil about 4 feet in diameter and 2W, I could send 9KHz several hundred feet.
I was also thinking about ELF to send signals to the Manta Rays. It already is in use for the submarine fleet, so proven technology. The disadvantage is the slow transmission combined with the impossibility to send a return message without getting close to the surface (with the antenna breaking through).
@@apveening A return message can be done with ELF but it risks giving away the location. It does take a lot of power to get it done but energy can be stored for a long time for a brief response.
@@Mr.Ekshin E-8 Poseidon's, (essentially purpose built Boeing 737's), can carry and drop Mk 54 Torpedoes anywhere in the world in hours. There's not really a need to arm the Manta's, and carry all the extra weight. Once a Manta locates an enemy, it's doomed. Arming the Manta makes it far larger, complex and maintenance heavy. Edit; I'm referring to subsurface foes, not surface vessels. I don't think the Manta's prime target is surface vessels.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 - Assault from the air puts air assets at risk, particularly if an enemy is staying close to their own shoreline. Having undetectable underwater assets makes sense as a viable option in some circumstances.
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx you mean the same autonomous cars that without human correction regularly dive into walls, into sidewalks full of people, into oncomming traffic, skip red lights and stop signs, or just flat out come to a halt for no particular reason in the middle of the damn road? those auto pilot cars?
My brother worked for General Electric in the UK back in the 1990’s and told me of a project like this back then. It was one of the reasons he moved on. He didn’t like the idea of spending the rest of his career making the deadliest weapons on earth. He’s been making games with Rockstar for the last 20 or so years and seems a lot calmer.
They’ve had this technology for years, don’t let this blow you away. They have technology beyond our comprehension and they give us crumbs that are supposed to “fascinate” us.
Aquatic life is just a whole different level. I work at a pet store, and a few weeks ago we found a fish with no eyes in one of the tanks. The other fish just ate his eyes while he was alive, and left him blind. And these are literally the fish you buy for you kids as pets. Ocean scary, man. Ocean scary
game OST's are so good for youtube(no copyright strike 90% of the time). tho people overuse diddy kong racing music on 'fun/funny videos' God command and conquer takes me back to Windows Vista days
P.S. to previous comment I made the ship in the background at time stamp 6:11 is the Self Defense Test Ship USS Paul F. Foster DD964 which can be seen at the coordinates I posted previously.
The whales in question are sperm whales. They weigh in at 25 to 50 tons. The 'giant cephlapods' with which they 'do battle' are giant sqid - which, at most, are about 1000 lbs, or 1/2 ton. There is no battle. The whales virtually swallow the squid whole.
I love the fact that fans of the Simon's Whistlerverse of channels are also fans of Sgt. Long (HLC) and even recognize Alex Hollings from Sandboxx news. 😁
It would be hilarious if this little autonomous sub got some sort of ultra-menacing robitic voice randomly alternating with a very calm and quiet voice.
Looking forward to the next one as much as I enjoyed watching this! Thanks for sharing this adventure- just love the site, and I’m glad you’re making the most of that view of the gully behind it!
That which is in the Sea is similar to Space. Autonomous Drone's. X-37. 2+ year mission's in space. Has had different configurations as per mission requirements.
So it runs on the same concept as geothermal. Park at the bottom release a bouy with tube that have some material that flows and is optimized for those temperatures and pressures to flow and drive any number of ways to capitalize on the energy gradient or flow. Dope idea
Actually I think a gravity wave bubble is more accurate.Flying underwater at 700+ miles per hour is not a big deal. Google search Tr3b astra-hit the video icon-scroll down to the night time footage of a Tr3b powering up its gravity wave propulsion system until it disappears. This is U.S. space forces near stellar reconnaissance workhorse which spys on the alien bases in our solar system.
Yeah because the nuke subs floating all around the worlds oceans, from multiple countries and for months at a time since the 90's, wouldn't have run into them if they were under the water. Duh. They've already found them, this is just further research... They declassified it so the other countries didn't think they were spying on them. They're lookin at ALEYUNS
I created a similar hypothetical design in college. My idea was to anchor a buoyant winged device to the sea floor. In my sketch up it didn't use a propulsion system making it incredibly quiet. It was essentially the undersea equivalent of a glide bomb with an almost unlimited payload and since it had no propulsion when attacking it would be almost impossible to detect. It would use an onboard database of known ship signatures as targets. After a sonic activation signal it would target any of the known ships autonomously if they came into range.
I can pretty much tell you read a lot of comic book when you were younger...so it is not a original design nor concept. These "young guys" are different....they promoted, lobby to get money and built the concept....
If we want it to. This is the difference between us and them. And you know who them is. We make claims...and then do it..."they" make claims and it never happens. You watch..."they" will make a claim "they" already have one in service, it will look ordered off Ali Express, catch on fire underwater and "they" will claim its all working perfectly and can sink five American Carriers.
I have questions....how do they differentiate between what is friendly and what is not? Considering the difficulties in underwater communication its not like friend or foe technology works
Alex Hollings Sandbox News' Air Power, Sea Power, or Man Power are all excellent and highly reliable sources of military tech info. I first heard about this program on his Sea Power series. Check it out if this content is your jam
Limitless possibilities. I could imagine them designing smaller versions that could attach themselves to enemy subs like a Remora fish and just start pinging a signal to our ships effectively ruining the subs only line of defense, stealth. Or even designing them to attach to enemy ships then start tearing the hulls apart, kinda like barnacles. The only thing I'd worry about these things is whether there are any anti-orca capabilities?
My money's on these being used primarily for recon/intelligence. An autonomous drone patrolling waterways and coastlines could quietly provide all sorts of highly accurate maps, logs of boat traffic, or be an effective minesweeper. Imagine a fleet of these drones serving as advance scouts wherever the navy is looking to deploy, and keeping the area under surveillance during operations.
That might be why the simulated video of it "harvesting" power through currents show it deploying a small watermill--it does use water jets to move about like you say but needs a generator with a propeller to generate power. That was my question--why would it need that little dinky watermill when all it'd have to do is anchor itself to the sea floor and let the current turn its propulsion propeller to generate power, much like an EV car does when it uses regen braking.
Keep in mind that this version that we see here is just the prototype. If you look at the differences between, say, the YF-22 and the F-22A, (yes, I did just use my username's namesake for an analogy), there's a ton of sensor equipment on the prototype that's removed to make the production model a lot sleeker. The finished product of this program will likely be quite a bit different from what we see today.
@@raptor2265 - It will be interesting to see how many torpedos each one holds. I picture lots of these lying dormant until a satellite identifies enemy naval vessels putting to sea. The satellite sends location data and a signal to attack, at which point, manta hunter packs come to life and silently head for these locations to sink the ships. Submarines need air, food and water for the crew, as well as return trips to port to trade out crews. Strip away the crews and you cut costs significantly while increasing stealth, speed and efficiency. The fact that we now know about these things publicly, tells me that (A) there's probably already hundreds of them deployed, and (B) they probably look nothing like what we've been shown.
A water jet needs an impeller- essentially a smaller and faster-turning propeller. Larger, slower-turning propellers are quieter, more stealthy. Consider the noise a hair dryer set on medium makes vs a ceiling fan set on medium. The ceiling fan would be producing more thrust. Then you have the actual water jet itself. Which is more noticeable - a water hose with a jet nozzle on it, or the same hose with no nozzle? Because the area of a circle (and the power of stream of water) is proportional to the radius SQUARED, a larger prop can develop the same power with a MUCH slower water stream. It's entirely possible that a slow-turning external prop is the least noticeable, the most stealthy.
its a glider that can also glide UP! using simply small ballast transfers. Tradional propulsion not necessary, its silent and very low energy requirement. Its genius
@@AvoidTheCadaver hmmmm 🤔 yeah but you only get limited flight time and range ... These things can coast in the current and lay dormant, not to mention they don't need a team to maintain them to( switch batteries, change props ) We could drop 50 or more and space them off the coast in detect mode, then have drones to confirm targets 🤷🏻♂️
Um, Simon, does it matter that we can see into the room that's behind your right shoulder? I'm sure someone has already pointed it out. Great video, as always.
How radar visible would a small laser-satellite communicator be if it only stuck up out of the ocean by a few centimeters? Could something like that, tethered to the Manta Ray by a communication cable, allow the sub to stay safely deep while communicating with command/control on a regular basis (maybe daily)?
8:05 Regarding its profile for sonar detection..... My guess is that it's an unmanned vehicle, intended to operate autonomously, for long periods in the field, and without the constant need for human control, but that is still in its prototype / developmental stage, I imagine having it be easily detectible might be an intentional choice. You know.... in case, it gets lost and/or damaged, and needing recovery.
He doesnt do the whole video he has writers who do the script and is more of the scientifically inclined narrator than a content creator, like a RUclips David Attenborough
Re: the first mention of Manta Ray, Phase I projects typically don't involve any direct hardware development, and so tend to be relatively quick and inexpensive. They're used to identify stake-holders, define specs, and ideally come to an agreement to pursue a Phase II project which encompasses the actual development. It's not surprising that the due date for the Phase I was under a year, since it mainly involves just talking to people. What's surprising is the $12MM price tag - this means that they had to interview a *lot* of people about a *lot* of different things, which indicates the huge scope of the potential project.
So... Will the US get that guy with the big goofy helmet, that shoots a laser for some reason, to lead this project? And how would that effect its relationship with Atlantis 😅?
How's the rouble exchange rate working for you comrade brokadyl? Or are you underwater on a mortgage you've been paying for 10 years on an apartment that hasn't been built yet Mr Sum Dum Fuhk?
@@thepax2621forgot to switch acount sun dum fuhk? Responding 5 minutes before I posted. Lol don't worry I'm sure you'll get your 600 square foot apartment finish any day now. -1000 social credit. Just don't eat any more bat meat soup please
@thepax2621 I thought you were replying to yourself, cuz that's what I thought when I read your comment. Wtf are you taking about? One of your children's shows I'm guessing?
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx I replied to a comment that is now apparently deleted. That much should be obvious, even to you. And thats an arrogant, sneering comment, which is quite ironic, since it comes from a guy playing with toy-planes. Its quite funny, that people can be so enraged by a joke and a reference. Why should I even answer your question? You already made up your mind and decided to be mad about it 🤷🏻♀️. So you can get lost
Let me save you 18 minutes: The Manta Ray is a new underwater drone being developed by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) and Northrop Grumman. Here are some key points about the Manta Ray: - It is a large, unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) that is designed to be autonomous for long periods of time. - It is powered by a novel energy harvesting system that can draw energy from the ocean's thermal gradient or from differences in water salinity. - It has a high payload capacity and could be used for a variety of purposes, including offensive and defensive missions. - It has the potential to revolutionize naval warfare by making it possible to deploy large numbers of highly capable drones underwater.The Manta Ray is still under development, but it has the potential to be a game-changer for the United States Navy.
sharks hate electricity. also there is no reason to even speculate that this thing radiates anything into the water. this is actually an excellent passive trolling question haha. you get a thumbs up
For about 10 years I've been hypothesizing that the next great naval shipbuilding will be around submersible drones not just single ones that can carry torpedoes and/or missiles either, but capable of carrying smaller air drones that can launch while the "mother ship" is submerged and close in on a target(s) skimming the surface or going high altitude. The larger drone can submerge below the thermocline to extreme depths. The result is a very difficult to detect massive payload that can be either prepositioned or quickly moved into position that can then swarm a target and recover at a different location from launch - not just for a kinetic event, but also for surveillance and data gathering as well. The biggest issue for underseas is that the communications to penetrate the water either requires a very long communication wavelength requiring a massive miles wide antenna or periodic surfacing for updated commands. I'm guessing that with laser, microwave, etc advancements that many of these hurdles have been or are in the process of being overcome.
Messages underwater are typically best relayed by sonar. I am positive we could deploy a surface buoy with sonar equipment to relay information underwater in complex combat situations, basically allow for manual override by a pilot, when necessary. Decision making always has to have a human pulling the trigger as the final check.
VLF transmissions will reach submerged vessels, but it has a very slow data rate, thus very short messages... Basically codes for "surface and use other communications for detailed instructions", "nuke target #X", etc...
There's just some things the government needs to stop putting on the internet. Sure, it's cool asl, but it doesn't need to be on the internet for another government to see.
Any time we choose to speak about our military, or disclose armament, tech, it's for a specific purpose. For instance, do you ever wonder why we list, catagorize and number all the weaponry sent to ukraine or NATO countries? Actual military secrets dont tend to end up on youtube. When they do, its newsworthy.
Everyone on this planet just baffles me when they see something like this and don't get alarmed when i say "Skynet" Just clueless to the pandoras box we are opening.
I'm not concerned about skynet. I'm concerned about the terrible (in terms of both logic and ethics) decisions HUMANS might make with these technologies. It's not the robot you should be scared of. It's the human behind it. That goes for automation too.
@@dynamicworlds1 I'm with you on this one. Also if they wanted to use this thing against chine for example... what the response would be? Some kind of seamines maybe? Like we didn't have enough postwar military crap in oceans and seas alredy 🤦♂ Military never really cared about irreversible damage they do, any side of conflicts tbh. Little offtop When will humankind gain some sense. I'm not sure what future average person will have when global powers are pushing for influence or even domination. Normal people don't have to kill each other for food in this day and age (well, unless global warming destroys too much). To me it really shows what our leaders have in their mind, what really do they care about.
All just a fear powered future exploiting your own need for seeing the other as an enemy. And you think this is cool.. thus the human race will collapse with your participation.. Fuck up the seas, the earth and the skies. Explain that to your children if you can still afford their therapy by then.
So when someone has a bad idea, they shouldn't be allowed to think anymore? Cuz that would leave you with sticks and stones. Which is probably all you're capable of handling anyway I would guess.
The dolphins started asking for to big a raise in fish. They were getting a wee bit "upity" if you know what I mean.....we're talking to some very interested and motivated Sea Lions that have been wanting a flipper in the door for quite some time and thinks this is their big chance! You know, keeping our options open as it were.
The first time I encountered this concept was around 1995 reading the "Ghost in the Shell" manga. The author was not prophetic by any means, but he picked up good ideas about the future. Neat, I can't wait for the next passenger vessel to be blown up. (Cruise ship look like wedding parties, they can be easily confused).
I'll be bummed out if this cancels the Sharks With Frickin' Lasers Beams Attached to Their Heads research program.
Shouldn't be much overlap, as these things are recon units and the SwFLBAttH program is counterespionage.
that was actually done and they did it with dolphins
No sharks Sir but we do have trained Halibut.
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@@araaraaura1887 SwFLBAttH acronym sounds a lot like Russian cures word Blyat...I like it.
Now that I am sixty years old, I am starting to get an inkling of what my father experienced in his life. He was born in 1931 in a cabin in Quebec. He always remarked that he was born before televisions and there were very few telephones and family cars; he remembered his expression of disbelief was “Sure! And let’s just go to the moon while we’re at it!” when he was a child. I remember when tv’s were black and white, and only picked up two channels….. but only if the weather was good. I remember milkmen and collect calls and dressing in my best to go to the doctor, church, and when flying. I remember thinking how awesome it was when I got my first push-button phone (and it was attached to the wall in the kitchen).
When I see projects like this, I think back to how far we have come since I was born in 1964 and I wonder what my grandchildren will be looking back upon when they reach my age.
It is truly amazing. The sad part is we are using this technology for destructive purposes. Just think of all the productive life enhancing things that could be accomplished.
When I was a kid before 1975,the waters were clean & rubbish free & the Straits of Malacca was green/blue.Today the waters are neither clean nor rubbish free & the straits is black.I wonder what future humans will think of us when we are compared to our predecessors.
They will be saying "we used to have electricity, refrigerators, AC, and cars..."
@@ncg5560 to be fair darpa tech always moves into the public market eventually examples include GPS, Internet, and screens (they were not the sole source but were involved)
I was born in 1983 and am 40, and I'm already starting to feel this quite a bit. I remember thinking I was so cool when I got my own seperate phone line in my room before cell phones in the 90s, I remember moving one town over and me and my best friend promising we would stay in touch because that felt like a world away before social media in high school. Technology is weird, it feels like it makes many things better but many things worse. And it keeps growing at an accelerated rate. I can't even imagine the world by the end of MY lifespan, nevermind long after that!
Ahhhhh there is nothing more thrilling than combining the words "autonomous" and "armed".
Happy, happy, joy joy! 😂
Say goodbye to all large sea life.. threat detected! That said.. I can't wait to see Orca pods adapting to and hunting down these craft!
The potential of stealthily traveling up a river with a nuclear bomb is more terrifying than anything you mentioned.
There's potential, but it's highly unlikely a nuclear device is deployed without direct control over it at all times. Fun to ponder, but no, it's not happening.
Three gorges dam yesssss
I think sonar pinging a manga ray swimming solo up a fresh water river would be a bit of a giveaway
The trouble is getting a nuke. There's nothing difficult about stealthily delivering it without hi tech drones.
@@garrettshelton5788 Its a Darpa Project. The fuck is sonar? Bet this thing is 20 years ahead with sensors
If the future of naval warfare will be drone-centered as it currently seems it will be, then an additional use case for the manta ray might be to function as a sort of logistics network. It can set up small recharge stations and communication points ahead of other drones that could either be cheap kamikaze style drones, or more expensive drones capable of bearing other armaments. Not sure how realistic that is, but I do think this drone sounds a little on the large and especially expensive end to be used as a kamikaze drone itself.
I've said it before and I'm happy to say it again: I consider your offerings and those from Alex Hollings to be the the most genuine and honest channels for these types of discussions. Never see any clickbait or over the top BS headlines. Thank you for continuing your excellent work...
You don't think "This thing will change warfare" is clickbait? You must be really easy to dupe.
Perun is also another excellent source of Defense Logistics videos. Aussie wit makes frequent appearances as well😂
16:00 - Alex Hollings is a frickin JOKE - US was able to track Russian subs since before the Cuban Missle Crisis. Look up SOSUS - Could detect a sub over 3,000 miles away and US new where every Russian sub was at all times xD China copied that program in recent years as "The Underwater Great Wall."
@@MostlyHarmlessAK When you are discussing future tech in warfare, no i dont. When has new tech ever NOT changed the thing its introduced to?
Be careful with these guys. They never edit out Simon's mistakes. I regard it as entertainment, not a reliable source.
Thanks for crediting Alex Hollings as a reference, his previous work on the DARPA Manta Ray was also excellent (I am a big Alex/ Sandboxx News fan!)
Oh hey Alex, love your videos.
Yes that is where I first heard about this and many other things. He is an excellent source of many things about the military, especially tech.
Colonel, I found the diaper chief
yup, I am an ardent follower of his youtube channel Sandboxx
Love your work, Alex.
17:30 somewhere in a darpa office: Hey we got this cool new toy but what can we do with it?
someone else: i dunnno, let's release the information to the public and monitor youtube for ideas
They made invisible cloaks long, long ago...
yeah sure. For every one DARPA project make public, you can bet that a couple more are secret. War is all about deception and misdirection. You give too much credit to the "super geniuses" on youtube. If we you say is true, youtube would have solved quantum gravity, cure for cancer, cold fusion.
If Alex Hollins was involved, that's pretty safe to assume.
Also google maps kind of caught it docked in Port Hueneme.
if you think this is cool check out the TR-3A Black manta the Aircraft version responsible for all this "black triangle" UAP sightings
Projects like these aren't discussed unless they're already several steps ahead in development, so this thing already has the ability to fight and reconnoiter. When Russia revealed Poseidon, it was obvious the US already had its version.
I was thinking along those same lines - and this may end the submarine(s) that carry up to four Poseidon drones. Wonder if the weapons it carries are capable of being nuclear.
One snark here: they won't be needed against the Iranian "Navy," if recent events (the Iranians have developed a kind of autonomous ship: the self-sinking type)
Generally, if you hear about a military top secret project. They already have something better
or, more likely... they discovered that it isnt a
viable weapon
This is literally Phase 1 genius.
@@wjwelch40 DARPA issues a press release and this cow brain thinks it's top secret. 🤣🤣🤣
I can envision a SciFi movie featuring a Manta Ray drone which becomes sentient and then goes rogue. The possibilities are fascinating.
Steve Alten had a crappy novel about this called "Goliath"
But they would put Steven Seagal in it and the movie would be crap...
omg im so tired of this goofy idea that a computer will be "sentient".... and what is it going to do? you mean to tell me there's humans that built this technology but there's no kill switch or manual override????? it's like we are so conditioned living with electricity 24/7 that we forget all it takes is for the power to shut off and none of the technology works anymore.
@@BeachLookingGuy Only someone who knows nothing about AI would say this. Actually understand the topics before you go forming ignorant opinions on them.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 great response! you proved nothing lmao. you just sound brainwashed like the rest of em!
These things like the drone in this video, that we hear about are things I'm sure that's been worked on and developed for years, I think these are amazing, I just hope it's something that's sustainable and could be quickly produced in time's of need.
If it was useful, they wouldn't have declassified it...
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx good point
Nothing the War Department does is "sustainable".
I think these things aren’t meant to be mass produced imo, but more to decimate the other guy for as long as possible until we as a country are in a mass production capable state, the amount of reserves we have allow for for to fight for 6 months without any resupply if the worst were to come
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx Think how much effort "they" might waste taking countermeasures for something "they" can't see because it's vaporware.
Columbian customers in the " export pharmacuticle business " have already ordered the first one hundred. 😂
Colombian* shoulda used that edit to fix that too lulz
No joke "narcosubmarines" are pretty crazy. HiSutton writes about and makes videos all about them
Those will be the primary target and test bed. It is hard enough to patrol and spot the homemade subs, but a fleet of these drones could patrol tirelessly. All they have to do is ping sonar and report when it sees abnormal pings.
Good point, those drones will probably take out trafficking subs too.
Racism is not cool
DARPA has demonstrated water-vehicles that use 'wings' to sail much like an airplane.
They trade small changes in depth for forward travel...20:1 glide-slope is easy in water.
Internal bladders control buoyancy of the vehicle.
Quite energy efficient, absurdly quiet.
Perfect for silent missions.
And that forward momentum (upward or downward) can be used to generate electricity. The only issue is whether there is is enough depth to compensate for powering the bladders.
I saw stuff like that at least 15 years ago. There was a large underwater flying wing robot from a university, called Liberdade back around 2010ish making use of a highly efficient process to glide for very long periods of time (something to do with paraffin and the thermocline). manta ray looks similar in some ways.
So for every 20 meters forward it goes down 1 m in depth^^ Sounds like a receipe for disaster ^^
@@TheInfidel_SlavaUA LMFAO, I worked on an underwater robot for the oil an gas industry and that was exactly its working principle. it was all about easily gliding to the sea bed, until somebody pointed out the hard part was getting back up to the surface (several years later).
there is a even more efficient drive system that hobbyist have made that is even quieter its called the manta drive it mimics the way a manta ray swims instead of propellers it uses a crankshaft with push rods to move the wing to generate extremely efficient movement the same way real manta rays can cross entire oceans with little effort. combined this with a very low metal design keeping it the size of a normal manta ray would make it nearly undetectable while still carrying enough explosives to disable a port or sink a ship
@4:33 - "They were working on a novel energy harvesting system."
My brain: "It eats krill????"
The Faro swarm is upon us.
@@XShadowzVarcolac The military would be excited rather than horrified at this prospect.
It burns Whale blubber!
Great, an autonomous, armed, biomass powered stealth weapons, what could go wrong
The possibilities and potential of this metal beast make this undoubtedly one of the most awesome and charming machines ever drawn up. At least in my eyes
Programmer: “Pop up where you’re least expected”
Pops up on Christmas in a mall dressed as Manta Claws
D’oh
Then dresses up like a dad and goes to the hood.
That wasn't funny at all. Wtf.
i'd put the spanish inquisition on it
@@Joe_P I saw this comment coming
Looks like the flying sub from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea tv series...OR The Romulan Bird of Prey from Star Trek, take your pick.
Didn’t SeaQuest have a similar type of vehicle, I recall something like that but I think it was smaller and could dock with the sub, such a great show they should reboot it
Jemhadar fighters
Reminded me most of an Asari Dreadnaught from mass effect
I seen several articles about this flying under sea concept over 30 years ago besides the TV shows. I take that back I think Aquaman arch enemy had a Manta Ray Sub in DC comics over fifty years ago.
I was just gonna post the same thing: the manta ship from vayage to the bottom of the sea
My thoughts?
1. The visibile screws are not used for propulsion, except if the drone is damaged in some way to make the main drive non-functional. No, these are the generators that are feathered when in active propulsion.
2. The two eyes are intakes to a non-MHD tunnel drive that provides backpressure against it's internal turbines (tesla turbines would be good, they are bladeless) to prevent cavitation. This would be used for attack speed manouvers.
3. The leisure drive system that takes almost no power would be a ballast purge and fill system that would cause propulsion by gliding up, and down the water column as it changes depth. Already used in some ocean drones, and very effective.
4. The vertical stab is not needed, don't expect it on the final version. The drone appears to have two beautiful alierons (hydrons?) on the trailing edge of the wing, and we know how Northrop/Grumman likes brakeable flaperons on the rear of it's stealth aircraft. Getting rid of the vertical stab would decrease the Manta's sonar visibility profile dramatically.
Exactly. There would be zero engine noise, making it undetectable.
those visible screws are for LASER BEAMS obviously
(jk im not that dumb)
Ya I saw the tail and was like, why is that needed? Also thought the same thing about the “eyes”.
The best inventions are the ones no one knows exists...
Yet it's not a deterrent if no one knows about it..
Not necessarily
& the worst are the ones the PRC knows.
They've probably had this one for twenty years already.
Duh
I took a ship from Hawaii to Malaysia it took 21 days the captain knew where the ocean current was the strongest and we used them. Thanks for sharing.
Honestly I think there’s an even more obvious use for them, parking them on the sea floor just outside of PRC territorial waters in arcs around PLAN submarine bases with a pair of Mk54 torpedoes on board and when war kicks off use them to sink PLAN submarines as they leave base for open water.
That was my first thought. They probably have already deployed them around the globe.
My first thought was that they are probably parked underwater all over the globe
PRC can also park them on American coasts. They probably have drones that mimic their submarines sonar signatures and pop your torpedoes.
And they can churn them out faster and cheaper with their industrial capacity.
@@madsam0320 And like most Chinese cheap rubbish lasts for only a few months.
Knowing this, they will deploy their submarines to open water BEFORE the war begins. This is why a large advantage is conferred on the one who chooses the timing of the offensive.
If your able to talk about it then your about 5-7 years behind, this will already be in service,
I was thinking 20 years. Remember how long they took to show us the SR-71 or the B1.
@@JoeSmith-tc6eg you're right, DARPA is typically at least 20 years ahead of current tech
@@DownHillSkateTime 60
@@JoeSmith-tc6eg I feel like the time frame is decreasing on these items and secrets are harder to keep. Yes the SR-71 took a long time to show up, and the F-117 took a little less time, but the B-2 stealth bomber was publicly disclosed even before the first flight in 1988. I don't think the B-1 was ever all that secret, they were having too many budget fights over it
Then again, it's a submarine, it's not like we can see it like an airplane, maybe the idea for it has been 20 years in the making, but the computer power to make it truly autonomous, might just be showing up now. The self driving car projects are showing how hard this unmanned stuff can be.
@@fishbord800
*A submarine's worst nightmare:*
"Please reconnect controller."
Too soon 😂
They were millionaires. there's no statute of limitation for millionaires.
That’s a low blow. ;)
Shark Week is gonna be fun this year.
Man love that i have these types of idea and a few years later .just shows if you dont someone else will
In 1994 I sat down for a coffee with a mentor at work and talked to him about my idea for an electronic book reader with just a screen and a couple buttons that you could insert a "book chip" into. Of course, I couldn't program or build circuitry.....but then Sony came out with the Librie, Discman, & Rocket and in 2007 Amazon came out with the Kindle and in 2010 Jobs came out with the iPad. At least I can enjoy the convenience now.
The Manta Ray is / was in my backyard in Port Hueneme, CA. Bow to stern the Manta measures approx. thirty-two feet, wing tip to wing tip the Manta measures approx. forty-six feet. It can be seen on Google Earth (11/09/23 and 3/06/24) in Port Hueneme, CA at: 34° 9'12.98"N, 119°12'31.07"W.
Holy shit, you weren't lying.
Holy shit! I just checked and you're right!
@@GrimKreeper P.S. to previous comment I made the ship in the background at time stamp 6:11 is the Self Defense Test Ship USS Paul F. Foster DD964 which can be seen at the coordinates I posted previously.
These manta rays will disturb Godzilla sleeping deep underwater and then all hell will break loose.
....A lot of people are saying the Manta Ray is operating in the Black Sea, feeding information on Russian ship positions to Ukraine. That's why Russia has lost so many ships....hundreds of miles offshore.
@@dpelpal what people?
@@dpelpal why not buy satellite fotos, would be much easier!
@@svenw-u3f Foreign Affairs was speculating about it in 2022. Because satellites are not nearly as accurate as terrestrial/sea based intelligence assets. They also said Ukraine may even have something similar, but procured it from a 3rd party. Nobody really knows for sure.🤷♀️
Ukraine = Nazi
US Space Agency = Nazi
British = Honour Nazi
Russia = The only honest nation!!
Metal Gear Strikes Again. GG Kojima, saw it coming from 2001 👏
I'm making the mother of all omelets, Jack. Can't fret over every egg.
I hoped we'll this one in future Metal Gear Solid game.
Whew! I thought I wasn't going to see a Metal Gear Solid reference.🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾💪🏾💪🏾
beast wars character named Depth Charge. 1997
I know that this is similar to the Ray Metal Gears, but it honestly reminds of Peace Walker too. It's basically an underwater version of the land-based, nuclear equipped, AI controlled Peace Walker.
If talking about it. It’s already operational
eh, not really. DARPA and the military like to dream big and talk like this does sometimes rattle enemy forces, but not everything dreamed up succeeds. It did make it to Stage 2, so things were promising, Stage 2 managed some prototypes, but getting to Stage 3 is a LOT of work. You have to turn that (usually) single prototype into something that can pass all requirement testing AND be producible. Think super-car. They can hand-build a Lamborghini in a workshop, but imagine now having to build that same car 10 a week or 50 a week plus meet the cost target the government will actually spend. Military hardware IS expensive and they spend a lot, but the contracts come with limitations.
If it is already in Stage 3 then it is likely already a usable product. It is no different than the state of AI. Right now we have AI enhancements on numerous systems, but much of it is still manually controlled. Actual visibility for a crew in a submarine is limited, so a remote control submarine would be equal or better if the power system, communications, and stealth system are all a success. Making the device where it can function autonomously when you want it to wait in deep waters would be necessary. It could then be triggered when needed with use of human commands to start a battle sequence or repositioning sequences.
A few dozen of these devices within range of Taiwan and the Philippines in the East Asia waters could wreck havoc if a naval invasion of Taiwan was attempted. A group of these could also be used in combination with a battle group of ships as a monitoring system to function with a manned submarine in searching for enemy submarines.
Does that mean the SR-72 Dark Star is already flying beyond test trials?
Lots of fascinating information, splendidly presented. Thank you.
Patience Skynet, patience another ten years the world will be yours. 😂😂😂
😂 my thoughts too!
What is Time to something that could potentially be immortal?
Yup. 😂
Build it see what happens then fix it. . . oops
I was thinking the same thing
There’s two reasons we get to know about DARPA projects publicly. 1. They’ve already been built, deployed, and in use for years or 2. It’s FUD, Fully Unrealized Documentation meant to confuse and intimidate adversaries that we might just be capable of this sorta shit.
Which means that the stuff they are currently working on in secret must be even more advanced.
@@MatthewTheWandereror they have nothing to compete the rest of the world. Looks like a copy of what Russia has been using for surveillance for over 15 years.
In this case it may be just that it doesn't matter! Even if you know about those things... What are you able to do about it?
China and Russia will have a very hard time finding those things on the sea floor when they aren't actively communicating. So what!? Darpa can let anyone know about those things
It could also be that Intel on them had already leaked out to adversaries, so there's no point in keeping the project a secret - making lemonade out of lemons...
Is truth actaully except they do not discuss the capabilities and full technology in them..
If we can view this project openly, it isn't as important as we think. DARPA releases info when intimidation is where the most value to be had.
Maybe true. The disadvantages of those things are numbers I guess. So the fear of them might do more then the mantas themselves. The sea is a VERY BIG place! And the mantas can make it dangerous for ships and subs.
But at the end of the day each Manta costs millions and can carry maybe 1-4 Torpedos (wich may not even be enough to sink one ship).
So until the US really has hundreds or thousands of them in the water the most value they can get out of it is propaganda and fear
@@alexanders.1359😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊uuudr
Exactly
@@alexanders.1359Only millions! Give us two thousand of them.
@@alexanders.1359 I mean, If you send a torpedo into the keel of a ship, it usually sinks as the ship loses most of its structural integrity.
I hope this comes to fruition in even better form. Would be a game changer in the future of Naval warfare and protect a lot of Americans
If you don't mind a very low data rate, you can communicate with something under the ocean using ELF radio. Basically you transmit at something down below 1KHz, perhaps as low as 20Hz. The receiver basically detects variations in the magnetic field. Over a period of several minutes, you can send a message effectively in a very narrow bandwidth. In fact, the information would be sent in a spread spectrum manner so that the signal would be less obvious. Return signals may not be practical because of the power demand of a transmitter.
Return signal from the pods. Elf requires a very long antenna. An antenna should be a wavelength, which is much longer than any sub could ever be (maybe kilometres)
@@stevenpace892 A magnetic loop antenna works find for ELF. It can be resonant to the frequency in question. With a coil about 4 feet in diameter and 2W, I could send 9KHz several hundred feet.
I was also thinking about ELF to send signals to the Manta Rays. It already is in use for the submarine fleet, so proven technology. The disadvantage is the slow transmission combined with the impossibility to send a return message without getting close to the surface (with the antenna breaking through).
@@apveening A return message can be done with ELF but it risks giving away the location. It does take a lot of power to get it done but energy can be stored for a long time for a brief response.
deliver fresh groceries to our special forces on missions
Satellite designates enemy targets at sea, then sics the torpedo-bearing mantas on it.
The SF borrowed my pressure washer in Afghanistan and gave it back it didn't work anymore. They need their own logistics
@@AlanBurr-nu5tm Did it have Afghan Bum Hair on it when you got it back?
@@Mr.Ekshin E-8 Poseidon's, (essentially purpose built Boeing 737's), can carry and drop Mk 54 Torpedoes anywhere in the world in hours. There's not really a need to arm the Manta's, and carry all the extra weight. Once a Manta locates an enemy, it's doomed. Arming the Manta makes it far larger, complex and maintenance heavy.
Edit; I'm referring to subsurface foes, not surface vessels. I don't think the Manta's prime target is surface vessels.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 - Assault from the air puts air assets at risk, particularly if an enemy is staying close to their own shoreline. Having undetectable underwater assets makes sense as a viable option in some circumstances.
Unmanned, autonomous and armed. What could possibly go wrong?
If auto pilot cars are any indication, a lot less than when humans are in charge.
Irrational fear is irrational for a reason. Maybe grow a pair.
You confuse autonomous with independent
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx you mean the same autonomous cars that without human correction regularly dive into walls, into sidewalks full of people, into oncomming traffic, skip red lights and stop signs, or just flat out come to a halt for no particular reason in the middle of the damn road? those auto pilot cars?
@Skywatcher16 I mean the cars that are 40 TIMES safer than humans. You must not know what news is. They don't report "dog bites man".
You could say the same about a guard dog. It’s autonomous and has teeth.
My brother worked for General Electric in the UK back in the 1990’s and told me of a project like this back then. It was one of the reasons he moved on. He didn’t like the idea of spending the rest of his career making the deadliest weapons on earth. He’s been making games with Rockstar for the last 20 or so years and seems a lot calmer.
Is everyone else in your family a coward too?
@@pistonburner6448 : No idea how your attempt at trollery was meant to connect, but it didn’t. Maybe try making sense, son?
@@ashroskell Ah, so just thick then?
@@pistonburner6448 : Never mind, kid. Try reading a book? Maybe you’ll be less thick, then?
lol Rockstar hasn't made a game in over 5 years. And they're mostly American... but ok.
They’ve had this technology for years, don’t let this blow you away. They have technology beyond our comprehension and they give us crumbs that are supposed to “fascinate” us.
Absolutely amazing and I'm so glad it's ours. Make it happen DARPA and friends!
When you go out to enjoy nature and you see a DARPA drone designed to end lives
Totally Normal Country btw
@@hia5235.....There's a reason people are lined up at the U.S. border to get in.....and at the Rushin' border to get OUT
@@user-usererer How come there are lines at the U.S. border to get in, and lines at the Rushin' border to get OUT?
Aquatic life is just a whole different level. I work at a pet store, and a few weeks ago we found a fish with no eyes in one of the tanks. The other fish just ate his eyes while he was alive, and left him blind. And these are literally the fish you buy for you kids as pets. Ocean scary, man. Ocean scary
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5879 views in just 30 mins..
Simon is really outdoing himself here
Atta boy!
Simon says more views
@1:09 omfg i just realized this beat is the opening seconds of "mechanical man" from command & conquer :O
Haha so glad someone else caught that!
game OST's are so good for youtube(no copyright strike 90% of the time). tho people overuse diddy kong racing music on 'fun/funny videos'
God command and conquer takes me back to Windows Vista days
P.S. to previous comment I made the ship in the background at time stamp 6:11 is the Self Defense Test Ship USS Paul F. Foster DD964 which can be seen at the coordinates I posted previously.
Swedish Silent Submarines: We're so stealthy, nobody will ever find us.
Manta Ray: (whispers from behind) Anything can happen in the next half-hour.
Norwegian 😘
Spicy
"Deep diving whales that do battle with mighty Cephalopods..." Just not that whale shown in the intro.
The whales in question are sperm whales. They weigh in at 25 to 50 tons. The 'giant cephlapods' with which they 'do battle' are giant sqid - which, at most, are about 1000 lbs, or 1/2 ton. There is no battle. The whales virtually swallow the squid whole.
Yeah I saw that too - showed a plankton-eating whale, filter feeder.
@@anthonyjackson280 Yah, we know. That's the joke. The pictured whale was a baleen whale.
KEF-la-pods.
@@anthonyjackson280 um... fact check here.
I wonder what kind of voice Habitual Linecrosser will give it 😂
I love the fact that fans of the Simon's Whistlerverse of channels are also fans of Sgt. Long (HLC) and even recognize Alex Hollings from Sandboxx news. 😁
gotta be John Cena. "you can't see me!"
It would be hilarious if this little autonomous sub got some sort of ultra-menacing robitic voice randomly alternating with a very calm and quiet voice.
Looking forward to the next one as much as I enjoyed watching this! Thanks for sharing this adventure- just love the site, and I’m glad you’re making the most of that view of the gully behind it!
Best Yet Simon!!
That which is in the Sea is similar to Space. Autonomous Drone's. X-37. 2+ year mission's in space. Has had different configurations as per mission requirements.
So it runs on the same concept as geothermal. Park at the bottom release a bouy with tube that have some material that flows and is optimized for those temperatures and pressures to flow and drive any number of ways to capitalize on the energy gradient or flow.
Dope idea
Actually I think a gravity wave bubble is more accurate.Flying underwater at 700+ miles per hour is not a big deal.
Google search Tr3b astra-hit the video icon-scroll down to the night time footage of a Tr3b powering up its gravity wave propulsion system until it disappears.
This is U.S. space forces near stellar reconnaissance workhorse which spys on the alien bases in our solar system.
They’re gonna find the aliens with this bad boy
Yeah because the nuke subs floating all around the worlds oceans, from multiple countries and for months at a time since the 90's, wouldn't have run into them if they were under the water. Duh.
They've already found them, this is just further research... They declassified it so the other countries didn't think they were spying on them. They're lookin at ALEYUNS
Pretty sure they've already been found
This tech is only possible because of aliens
@@Letsberealish complete nonsense
Emp will shutdown this thing if it bothers them.
Don't be pushed by your problems; be led by your dreams.
I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you!
I created a similar hypothetical design in college. My idea was to anchor a buoyant winged device to the sea floor. In my sketch up it didn't use a propulsion system making it incredibly quiet. It was essentially the undersea equivalent of a glide bomb with an almost unlimited payload and since it had no propulsion when attacking it would be almost impossible to detect. It would use an onboard database of known ship signatures as targets. After a sonic activation signal it would target any of the known ships autonomously if they came into range.
But how would it move without a propulsion system?
The buoyant force can be converted to forward motion by the wing in the same way a glider converts the downward force of gravity to forward motion.
Don't let the Chinese kidnap you.
I can pretty much tell you read a lot of comic book when you were younger...so it is not a original design nor concept. These "young guys" are different....they promoted, lobby to get money and built the concept....
@@rgloria40 Actually: no, I read practically no comics when I was younger.
Does a guy with a black helmet who pops out of it and it fight aquaman?
Right?!? 😂
If we want it to. This is the difference between us and them. And you know who them is. We make claims...and then do it..."they" make claims and it never happens. You watch..."they" will make a claim "they" already have one in service, it will look ordered off Ali Express, catch on fire underwater and "they" will claim its all working perfectly and can sink five American Carriers.
Maybe the person popping out is actually there to fight Mermaidman and Barnacleboy
It's autonomous. There are no cabin or life support systems on board.
Yes , apparently aquaman wasn’t wearing a cape at sea
I feel like I need to take a nap inside a manta ray. Looks very relaxing
All you gotta do is ask. They're all always looking for test subjects
So how does a Manta drone know what to target? Does the navy have some type of IFF signsl exchange.
Ngl the pictures of that thing were amazing to see in the news a couple weeks ago. Rare we get to see military tech like this
I’ve been waiting for this one!
Got it. So DARPA and team built a real life Metal Gear.
That's what I thought, a literal metal gear Ray...
No legs
cool tech. but i’m more intrigued on what paint and color you used to paint your office your in?
I have questions....how do they differentiate between what is friendly and what is not? Considering the difficulties in underwater communication its not like friend or foe technology works
If this had been posted and hosted by anyone else I would absolutely think this was a conspiracy theory
It was caught on Google maps recently The government deleted it
Why? This is all public information 😂
Alex Hollings Sandbox News' Air Power, Sea Power, or Man Power are all excellent and highly reliable sources of military tech info. I first heard about this program on his Sea Power series. Check it out if this content is your jam
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Northrop Grumman literally posted a video about it.
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Speaking of Alex Hollings
9:37
Everybody talking about the Manta Ray
But nobody talking about Simon's nice looking Chandelier in the background :(
I only didn't mention it because I'm not a fan of chandeliers... Also I thought it was a light lol
Not just the seas and oceans but also up estuaries and rivers right into the hart of major cities around the world
Will these replace the traditional mantas? Or are we keeping both?
Limitless possibilities. I could imagine them designing smaller versions that could attach themselves to enemy subs like a Remora fish and just start pinging a signal to our ships effectively ruining the subs only line of defense, stealth. Or even designing them to attach to enemy ships then start tearing the hulls apart, kinda like barnacles.
The only thing I'd worry about these things is whether there are any anti-orca capabilities?
Imagine they create water to ground missiles and just give it to the manta ray that just chills at the coast
What
@@gentlemanbassfishing2528 bro I literally said the same thing outloud when I read this I think this guy doesn't know that's already a thing
Those..... Those already exist, the only thing is depth of launch that's all
@ oh yeah you are right. Sorry dumb comment
this deserves a Subscribe
I see we decided not to fact check Russias Poseidon torpedoes and just one up them anyway.
My money's on these being used primarily for recon/intelligence. An autonomous drone patrolling waterways and coastlines could quietly provide all sorts of highly accurate maps, logs of boat traffic, or be an effective minesweeper. Imagine a fleet of these drones serving as advance scouts wherever the navy is looking to deploy, and keeping the area under surveillance during operations.
How long can it be de-permed for? I feel like a lot of sensors and mines may detect its magnetism after ling endurance missions
Surprised it doesn't use water jets rather than propellers. Be more stealthy, faster and a damn sight cooler.
That might be why the simulated video of it "harvesting" power through currents show it deploying a small watermill--it does use water jets to move about like you say but needs a generator with a propeller to generate power. That was my question--why would it need that little dinky watermill when all it'd have to do is anchor itself to the sea floor and let the current turn its propulsion propeller to generate power, much like an EV car does when it uses regen braking.
Keep in mind that this version that we see here is just the prototype. If you look at the differences between, say, the YF-22 and the F-22A, (yes, I did just use my username's namesake for an analogy), there's a ton of sensor equipment on the prototype that's removed to make the production model a lot sleeker. The finished product of this program will likely be quite a bit different from what we see today.
@@raptor2265 - It will be interesting to see how many torpedos each one holds. I picture lots of these lying dormant until a satellite identifies enemy naval vessels putting to sea. The satellite sends location data and a signal to attack, at which point, manta hunter packs come to life and silently head for these locations to sink the ships.
Submarines need air, food and water for the crew, as well as return trips to port to trade out crews. Strip away the crews and you cut costs significantly while increasing stealth, speed and efficiency. The fact that we now know about these things publicly, tells me that (A) there's probably already hundreds of them deployed, and (B) they probably look nothing like what we've been shown.
A water jet needs an impeller- essentially a smaller and faster-turning propeller.
Larger, slower-turning propellers are quieter, more stealthy. Consider the noise a hair dryer set on medium makes vs a ceiling fan set on medium. The ceiling fan would be producing more thrust.
Then you have the actual water jet itself. Which is more noticeable - a water hose with a jet nozzle on it, or the same hose with no nozzle?
Because the area of a circle (and the power of stream of water) is proportional to the radius SQUARED, a larger prop can develop the same power with a MUCH slower water stream.
It's entirely possible that a slow-turning external prop is the least noticeable, the most stealthy.
its a glider that can also glide UP! using simply small ballast transfers. Tradional propulsion not necessary, its silent and very low energy requirement. Its genius
@11:37 - "What exactly is it supposed to do...?"
I'll tell ya what it's supposed to do....
Scare the shit out of the bad guys !!!
Aussie here ... We'll have 50 please 😁
Cmon we can’t even build subs properly and I’m pretty sure we’ve spent all the defence money for the next 20 years lol
@@AM-uw3gp true that ... But these would be perfect for up off the cost of WA and the Territory.
Squadrons of small drones wod definitely be better for patrolling our coastline compared to a mere handful of subs
@@AvoidTheCadaver hmmmm 🤔 yeah but you only get limited flight time and range ... These things can coast in the current and lay dormant, not to mention they don't need a team to maintain them to( switch batteries, change props )
We could drop 50 or more and space them off the coast in detect mode, then have drones to confirm targets 🤷🏻♂️
Um, Simon, does it matter that we can see into the room that's behind your right shoulder? I'm sure someone has already pointed it out. Great video, as always.
How radar visible would a small laser-satellite communicator be if it only stuck up out of the ocean by a few centimeters? Could something like that, tethered to the Manta Ray by a communication cable, allow the sub to stay safely deep while communicating with command/control on a regular basis (maybe daily)?
Imagine putting a EMP in it to disable subs then tow it to get the crew out safe. Then take the sub apart and scraping it for parts.
um no
8:05 Regarding its profile for sonar detection..... My guess is that it's an unmanned vehicle, intended to operate autonomously, for long periods in the field, and without the constant need for human control, but that is still in its prototype / developmental stage, I imagine having it be easily detectible might be an intentional choice. You know.... in case, it gets lost and/or damaged, and needing recovery.
Show off the not stealthed up version, and let your enemies worry about the stealthed ones that you haven't shown off.
0:14 that is a humpback whale which doesn’t dive very deep and doesn‘t hunt any big animals. Sperm whales are the ones doing what you mentioned
He doesnt do the whole video he has writers who do the script and is more of the scientifically inclined narrator than a content creator, like a RUclips David Attenborough
This working alongside SwarmDiver, Ocean Aero Triton and others would be a great way to patrol the Pacific.
Re: the first mention of Manta Ray, Phase I projects typically don't involve any direct hardware development, and so tend to be relatively quick and inexpensive. They're used to identify stake-holders, define specs, and ideally come to an agreement to pursue a Phase II project which encompasses the actual development. It's not surprising that the due date for the Phase I was under a year, since it mainly involves just talking to people. What's surprising is the $12MM price tag - this means that they had to interview a *lot* of people about a *lot* of different things, which indicates the huge scope of the potential project.
So... Will the US get that guy with the big goofy helmet, that shoots a laser for some reason, to lead this project? And how would that effect its relationship with Atlantis 😅?
How's the rouble exchange rate working for you comrade brokadyl? Or are you underwater on a mortgage you've been paying for 10 years on an apartment that hasn't been built yet Mr Sum Dum Fuhk?
@@thomashaapalainen4108What the hell was that word-salad? Are you okay?
@@thepax2621forgot to switch acount sun dum fuhk? Responding 5 minutes before I posted. Lol don't worry I'm sure you'll get your 600 square foot apartment finish any day now. -1000 social credit. Just don't eat any more bat meat soup please
@thepax2621 I thought you were replying to yourself, cuz that's what I thought when I read your comment. Wtf are you taking about? One of your children's shows I'm guessing?
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx I replied to a comment that is now apparently deleted. That much should be obvious, even to you. And thats an arrogant, sneering comment, which is quite ironic, since it comes from a guy playing with toy-planes. Its quite funny, that people can be so enraged by a joke and a reference. Why should I even answer your question? You already made up your mind and decided to be mad about it 🤷🏻♀️. So you can get lost
Let me save you 18 minutes: The Manta Ray is a new underwater drone being developed by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) and Northrop Grumman.
Here are some key points about the Manta Ray:
- It is a large, unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) that is designed to be autonomous for long periods of time.
- It is powered by a novel energy harvesting system that can draw energy from the ocean's thermal gradient or from differences in water salinity.
- It has a high payload capacity and could be used for a variety of purposes, including offensive and defensive missions.
- It has the potential to revolutionize naval warfare by making it possible to deploy large numbers of highly capable drones underwater.The Manta Ray is still under development, but it has the potential to be a game-changer for the United States Navy.
I wonder if they will have to make it shark proof because of all the electrical activity in the drone lol.
Correct
Huh? Youre saying sharks go after electricity?
sharks hate electricity. also there is no reason to even speculate that this thing radiates anything into the water. this is actually an excellent passive trolling question haha. you get a thumbs up
More like killer whale proof
I love it solar running along the top will make it so it never is dead and less goes wrong with that process
For about 10 years I've been hypothesizing that the next great naval shipbuilding will be around submersible drones not just single ones that can carry torpedoes and/or missiles either, but capable of carrying smaller air drones that can launch while the "mother ship" is submerged and close in on a target(s) skimming the surface or going high altitude. The larger drone can submerge below the thermocline to extreme depths. The result is a very difficult to detect massive payload that can be either prepositioned or quickly moved into position that can then swarm a target and recover at a different location from launch - not just for a kinetic event, but also for surveillance and data gathering as well. The biggest issue for underseas is that the communications to penetrate the water either requires a very long communication wavelength requiring a massive miles wide antenna or periodic surfacing for updated commands. I'm guessing that with laser, microwave, etc advancements that many of these hurdles have been or are in the process of being overcome.
Lets not kid ourselves. Its gonna carry nukes and be used for deterrence.
No it won't, we already have nuclear subs for that and the US isn't going to put nukes on fully autonomous drones that can be captured.
I doubt that an autonomous machine would be trusted with the care and operation of a nuclear weapon.
@@JakMakes-z5owe *hope* they won’t put nukes on fully autonomous drones
No...they definitely are not..
@@Troupe_Master * hopefully
Simon: *mentions DARPA*
Me, in a shocked yet gritty voice: "Metal Gear?!"
second floor basement?!
All these kojima metal gear solid things coming to life, next up? Unlimmited ammo bandana - ifykyk
lol imagine they actually, unironically create that bandana
Glad these guys are on our side 😅
Messages underwater are typically best relayed by sonar. I am positive we could deploy a surface buoy with sonar equipment to relay information underwater in complex combat situations, basically allow for manual override by a pilot, when necessary. Decision making always has to have a human pulling the trigger as the final check.
VLF transmissions will reach submerged vessels, but it has a very slow data rate, thus very short messages... Basically codes for "surface and use other communications for detailed instructions", "nuke target #X", etc...
There's just some things the government needs to stop putting on the internet. Sure, it's cool asl, but it doesn't need to be on the internet for another government to see.
Any time we choose to speak about our military, or disclose armament, tech, it's for a specific purpose.
For instance, do you ever wonder why we list, catagorize and number all the weaponry sent to ukraine or NATO countries?
Actual military secrets dont tend to end up on youtube. When they do, its newsworthy.
Everyone on this planet just baffles me when they see something like this and don't get alarmed when i say "Skynet"
Just clueless to the pandoras box we are opening.
That's cause most people don't really care anymore.
I'm not concerned about skynet.
I'm concerned about the terrible (in terms of both logic and ethics) decisions HUMANS might make with these technologies.
It's not the robot you should be scared of.
It's the human behind it.
That goes for automation too.
@@dynamicworlds1 I'm with you on this one.
Also if they wanted to use this thing against chine for example... what the response would be? Some kind of seamines maybe?
Like we didn't have enough postwar military crap in oceans and seas alredy 🤦♂
Military never really cared about irreversible damage they do, any side of conflicts tbh.
Little offtop
When will humankind gain some sense. I'm not sure what future average person will have when global powers are pushing for influence or even domination.
Normal people don't have to kill each other for food in this day and age (well, unless global warming destroys too much). To me it really shows what our leaders have in their mind, what really do they care about.
All just a fear powered future exploiting your own need for seeing the other as an enemy. And you think this is cool.. thus the human race will collapse with your participation.. Fuck up the seas, the earth and the skies. Explain that to your children if you can still afford their therapy by then.
Training dolphins to attach limpet mines not worked out?
😒 we are still negotiating with 20 dolphin federation chiefs, they speak hundreds of dialects so this will take time.
So when someone has a bad idea, they shouldn't be allowed to think anymore? Cuz that would leave you with sticks and stones. Which is probably all you're capable of handling anyway I would guess.
WoW! That was definitely not very "Positive only"....or is that referring to your last infection screening?
The dolphins started asking for to big a raise in fish. They were getting a wee bit "upity" if you know what I mean.....we're talking to some very interested and motivated Sea Lions that have been wanting a flipper in the door for quite some time and thinks this is their big chance! You know, keeping our options open as it were.
I enjoy these videos and appreciate Simon slowing down a bit!
He lost me on some of his channels.
The first time I encountered this concept was around 1995 reading the "Ghost in the Shell" manga. The author was not prophetic by any means, but he picked up good ideas about the future.
Neat, I can't wait for the next passenger vessel to be blown up. (Cruise ship look like wedding parties, they can be easily confused).
It could be a great tool for sea exploration and mapping, but instead the military got it. Sad.
At least Boeing didn’t get the job
Where do you think most things are invented? Welcome to earth. I see you were born yesterday.
Womp womp
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people dying on the taxpayer dime?
If you don’t love that you just don’t love America baby
The military gets all the cool toys first then loans them out to science and commercial application. Welcome to the military-industrial complex.
China be like, "I'mma go sneak over to Guam and sink an aircraft carrier."
Manta Ray: "u w0t?"
Imma gunna go sneak over the Vladivostock and go salmon fishing as a mother ship for Deadliest Catch fishing boats. Dem Manta whatevers are too scary!