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Oppenheimer: *lives the entire rest of his life after Hiroshima in immense guilt and feelings of hopelessness from the fact that he just gave humanity the capacity to annihilate itself* Meanwhile Teller:
Man uses immense logic and reasoning, to conceive a *"Delete"* -button for humanity. While using none, to actually think if we need or should be trusted with it, in the first place.
I met Teller in 1962 as a high school senior winner of the Bell Science award. What he most wanted to do was explore the solar sysytem using nuclear powered rockets - one design would use small fission bombs against a pusher-plate for propulsion. This would have to be built in space so as not to put a lot of radioactive material in the atmosphere. He was a very engaging talker.
@luck7572 the books actually went more in depth with it in the technicalities. They even raised the moral question of assassinating people that would hinder humanities great leap forward. When faster that light speed is achieved in the books it's explained so eloquently. Like I think it's the best description of time dilation I've read
The idea was for a smaller version to put it for example underwater and capitalise on deadly tsunamis. Otherwise it would waste energy by just blowing the atmosphere into space… i mean its a mad mad idea… but you see how they were thinking still destroying the enemy (and life) with something they cant even stop… Sundial is a crazy concept
actually it does mean something. the fact that we humans can't comprehend the magnitude of the number doesn't meant it has no meaning. In any case, it has no meaning for us humans. but it DOES have a meaning, we only can't understand it.
@@different_stuff do you realize other beings can have intelligence and others could understand it even though he humans couldn't? do you think humans are the only animals with a brain and logic reasoning?
Pandora the all gifted or one with many gifts, it was not only her curiosity that drove her to open that Pithos, with her excellent mind one gifted by Hermes and Athena, she knowingly released upon forth the forbidden contents onto humanity, all the while a horrible little remnant yet remains that burn intensely with wretched fervor, free to leave but never does.
Yea, this is very deep, like imagine knowing this can be detonated in an instant. You Won't even know since the shock wave is horrifyingly fast and you can't see it!
Can't help but think something similar awaits us with militaries around the world rapidly adopting autonomous AI weapons, laser and tiny explosive quadcopters that can fly anywhere they want.
@Murderouscat-jt4qd I was thinking about that while watching. There is no testing it. You just wait for the moment of truth, and It either works or it doesn't.
@@Murderouscat-jt4qd I assume they would probably be testing smaller scale versions of Sundial. A less devastating model that would serve as a proof of concept. They can't test the real thing because... well, yeah.
Teller is based it seems. And if you were to meet him in real life, he was a kind and considerate person. Real horrors are not made with world-ending weapons. A sick person with a knife can make things FAR more scary and horrid than a weapon that just ends it all.
I doubt this was supposed to be funny, but I immediately thought of the song that says "more more more, how do you like it, how do you like it" and laughed out loud
That's the way some thermonuclear bombs works, a first stage which produces gamma rays, it activates a second stage, later this second stage activates a third and later.
I'm fairly certain the more common description was "nuclear layer cake". The Tsar Bomba was 3 layers deep. Presumably Project Sundial would have been several layers deep.
I had something similar happen. I am a physics student and went to a lecture about neutron stars. She was talking about the hot spots on these stars and how they were caused by thermonuclear hurricanes. This made me feel positive that at least earth's weather isn't this fucked
Why, really? US and the West invented and USED against humans ALL the types and sorts of WMK and WMD (except bio-weaponry, in which their another ally - Japan, excelled). So, the “Empire of Good” isn’t really what it says it is
@@skywillfindyou Yea, no. It does matter. The US military is the most powerful and reckless one to ever exist. Disregarding military invasions on hundreds of countries, they are the ones who have used nuclear bombs on civilians.
"Problem" was in USSR - they made (in 1956-1961) own h-bomb, more powerful, and more dangerous. "next-gen" hydrogen bomb. Most powerful bomb in the world. (AN602). )))) No one word about it in this "scientific" video.
Even by the standard of the Manhattan Project, Teller was insane. And modern evidence suggests that he betrayed both sides to the other; after trinity he became obsessed with getting a bigger bang. He was in many ways a brilliant scientist, but also a warning case about destructive obsessions.
Teller was, there is no other word for it, an evil man. Not only did he push fusion bombs and this monstrosity as "saviors" of the West, he also propounded missile defense (Star Wars), which would have been profoundly destabilizing because the Soviets would have been faced with "use it or lose it" for their nukes. Thank heaven Star Wars turned out to be only a scam played on a senile Ronald Reagan.
And yet... I feel the actual real reason it was never built was the second reason, that it gives no room for any negotiation. Like, "hey, you're attacking me, so I'll destroy the world" sounds... bizarre... like, "you're trying to kill me, so I'll kill myself first and then you'll die too".
5:14 "He has stolen the fire from the gods and awoken cosmic horrors but insisted that it was still not enough". That line gives everything to know about Teller
**Doctor of the End: The Sundial's Dream** In a world tense with fear, where shadows grew deep, A doctor emerged, from where dark visions creep. Not content with the fires that already burned, He sought a new power, a lesson unlearned. A mind sharp as glass, with cold logic aligned, He dreamt of an end that could humble mankind. For he saw nations tremble, gripped by the race, A madness where ruin wore ambition's face. So he sketched out a horror, the Sundial Bomb, A thing born of silence, a world’s quiet calm. This wasn’t a missile, or a warhead to throw- It needed no launch to reap its deathblow. In his mind’s eye he saw it, a tower of light, A sun that could blaze through the veil of the night. A star on the earth, with a heart forged in fire, Unleashing a death that no god could require. It held ten billion tons of pure TNT, A power so vast it could unmake the sea. A flash fifty kilometers wide in its wake, All life, all matter, it would scorch and remake. He proposed it as final, an ultimate vow, To silence the world if they dared disavow. One press of a button, if one dared to defy, And the earth itself would burn and die. Yet even the bold shuddered at the sight Of a weapon so vast it eclipsed day and night. The military halted, appalled by the thought- A power so dark, even they dared it not. The doctor stood silent, his grand vision undone, A mind left to linger where no light could run. For the monster he’d dreamt lay quiet, entombed, An untested requiem, a world unexhumed. Years turned to silence, but echoes remain, Of a vision so cold it could bring endless rain. This doctor who saw both the end and its dread, Left a mark on our souls, though his dream was dead. In the dark, his ambition still lingers near, A shadow, a whisper of human fear. A man who walked deeper than reason can see, In search of an answer-our own entropy.
@@normalguy5208 Just wanted you to know, that poem was so good I just saved it to my hard drive (though I will be making slight changes to the verbage and timing in a few lines to have a more natural flow)... I bow to your genius
*playing chess against Teller* "Hey, what do you have there?" "A bomb, and I swear to god if you as much as touch any of my pieces I'm gonna obliterate us!"
Great sound design often goes unnoticed because it feels so natural, yet it's a critical component that can make or break a viewer's connection to the story. Kudos to the sound team for their outstanding work-it’s clear they put in extra effort to make this episode resonate on every level.
it was a theory bomb. It showed the absurbity of nuclear arm race. Why world a country have 100+ nuclear bombs? If so they could all destroy the world. This just showed that nuclears was just stupid to have. Why have hundreds of nukes, if one country has a bomb that can destroy everything, when they wanted? Either they build the same world ending bomb or start thinking about removing nukes ...
I love the shuttering sound effect when the sundial nuke goes off. I know its based from a real nuke recording. I can't remember exactly what nuke it was, i want to say the Trinity test but it could be from a different one, but I remember that Crazy sound . Its like a low sub bass noise wave from the radiation interfering with the electronics. I think they said you couldn't hear that sound with your ears, it was a crazy artifact picked up by the recording equipment. Dang it! Now I have to find that video about this haha. Excellent sound design for sure. Sound design in general doesn't get enough love, especially with today's movies having more and more CGI, the audience doesn't realize that this whole insane render of a battle is completely silent, it takes people who have keen eyes and ears and intense attention to detail to bring a render to life, people don't realize that every thing that moves or touches something is going to make a sound, and sometimes matching reality isn't enough, they also have a library of knowledge and subtle sounds that can really bring a scene to life. Unsung heros for sure!
Oppenheimer : "We built something horrible..." Teller : "I wonder how a city would look like if we dropped Betelgeuse on it" Oppenheimer : "What ?" Teller : "What?"
Hearing that most of the information about project sundial is confidential and we don't know almost anything about it is really gonna make me sleep tonight.
I remember in Anathem by Neil Stephens there was a "planet killer": a fusion bomb the size of a large asteroid, which, when detonated near the planet, would just burn everything on the one side with pure radiant energy (not even a blast wave, just so much visible light that even steel would melt under this.) Sundial sounds like it was a blueprint for that idea.
the music in this is haunting and terrifying, you can hear air raid sirens in almost every minute and it fits. really gives me new vegas sierra madre vibes, an endless stasis after the death of humanity that awaits us if we ever destroy the world and everyone on it...
Came looking for this, phenomenal soundtrack! I still remember "RobotRights" from an old video of theirs with the same name. The guys at Epic Mountain absolutely deserve their name!
Look up aliens visiting nuclear bases. There is plenty of evidence of UAPs with technology beyond humans flying around. It's even been reported under oath in congress.
@@revron9683 They want all nukes removed. Do that, and suddenly there is much more conventional weapons fighting going around on a much larger scale. Why do you think there was no "proper" WWIII yet?
Genius?... using someone else's work to make a bigger bomb... that is no genius. genius would be the man that creates immortality. everything would change from a land of FOOLS to a land of justice
Lol. I live in Pennsylvania in the US so I got two political ads. Just to remind me who would be responsible for weapons like these... It made it worse.
1:06 "Imagine growing up in this world and seeing change almost too fast to keep up with." I was playing an NES as a kid and was blown away that I could point a toy gun at the screen and the ducks would fall down in the game. 30 years later, we have algorithms that can synthesize text, audio, images, and video. And we are only in the early caveman stages of this "AI" stuff. I don't need to imagine change that's too fast to keep up with.
Age 41 here. Going back to college is so weird; my peers don't have a fraction of my perspective. I remember floppy disks, DOS, and the sound of a modem start-up will never leave me. I try to explain how it was like looking up jokes on AOL before search engines, or just the wonderment of simple games like "Think Quick" or Moore's law or microfiche/film, but it doesn't compute.
@hectormelendez4891 well naturally it does. Technology progresses more so exponentially rather than a fixed rate. Early levels of technology take a little bit to be developed, but once a certain threshold has been hit the rate at which our Technology advances slowly goes up exponentially and as time goes on that rate of advancement will be so high that the type of speed you are thinking about is possible, however us as a species are not that far along yet into the technology exponential increase. We are getting close thats for sure, and the current technology we have is being made at an even faster pace, however we are still a few generations off of having a full on advance rate of the futuristic media we have seen. We're in the sorta weird transitional period/infant new age, we've crossed from analog to digital and our technology allows world wide connection and wireless access to said connection on a massive scale. But we are only just in the real true beginning of these technologies taking off and taking root. Technology will absolutely increase in speed of creation until we die off or magically hit some singularity evolving mega equation that cracks the laws of space, time, gravity, depth, and God lol
My dad brought home a Coleco Telstar, not only could we point a gun at the screen but also drive an on screen car. "What manner of dark sorcery is this?!?" Anyway.. Back to playing half-life Alex on my oculus rift while I also broadcast it to an Internet connected TV for my gf's amusement.
In the 1990s people was blown away by toy story. A 3D movie rendered by data center, not real time at all. Nowadays everyone have a supercomputer in they pocket (smartphone) what can run games similarly good graphics in real time ... ok all game with good graphics are from china and have anime style what not everyone likes (in west) but still...
For anyone demoralized by our own species in particular, it's important to remember that most relevant experts believe that if life does indeed exist out there in the universe, it would be subject to natural selection just as we are. This means that it would also be, by definition, competitive. Other intelligent life would suffer from the same quandaries we do as a result. They would probably even have their own nuclear arms races. We can only hope we all survive long enough to grow out of it eventually.
teller: *brings a flamethrower to a chess match* opponent: um, what’s that? teller: if you so much as capture my knight, i’m burning the whole damn board!
"Hey fellow alien what was earth like?" "The dominant species has built 12,000 bombs designed to wipe out millions in a flash" "So, they're an intelligent species?" "Well, they're aiming them at each other, so..."
humanity is probably the most horrifying species in the universe and that's why no one wants to interact with us. They'd rather wait quietly until we destroy ourselves than meet us and have all of those planet obliterators pointed at them
I was just reading one of the Animorph books recently, one of the ones that delves more into the actual sci-fi war happening elsewhere, and the Andalites are both like "Oh, they have Nuclear Weapons and primitive space travel, alright, neat, keep an eye on them" and then also "Wait, you just got out of a war?? But you only have one sapient species, who were you fighting?? EACH OTHER?!??! What?!"
bro im rethinking our place in this vast cosmos like i bet if you ask anybody that isn t mentally ill would you build something that can wipe out the world theyd say no i wouldd never do that
Like Human females when confronted by gender ideologues that allow on a FEELING/ self identification Men to destroy women's safe spaces . Only way to win for women is to ... Not play .
MAD warfare was already threatening to do that for the post part, which is why this bomb was technically obsolete, as the video mentioned. The terrible (and very interesting) fact about deterrence warfare is that, to ensure peace, your weapon needs to be able to commit atrocities no one would ever want and be guaranteed to trigger should something go wrong. That is the only way it can work. If there is ANY doubt that you will launch this weapon, your enemy suddenly has room to call your bluff.
Teller: Yo can you give me moderator perms real quick? Just wanna try somethin **A few moments later...** [Edward Teller has been kicked from the game]
Man uses immense logic and reasoning, to conceive a *"Delete"* -button for humanity. While using none, to actually think if we need or should be trusted with it, in the first place.
I absolutely love the music composition of this video. The haunting horn-like sound is an amazingly fitting leitmotif for nuclear weapons. It echoes the sound of air raid sirens. Also, on this topic, I am very proud of my country, Australia.
I could understand his logic. It's either we stop because the it could end the world, or just end it all. The moment military recoiled from the thought of it really speaks volume about how effective it is in delivering his message.
Plot twist: Maybe he never actually wanted to build that bomb. But by making it a feasible reality, he successfully scared the world into realizing just how absurd an ever-escalating nuclear race would be.
@Alblaka exactly! I would do the same if i were him. Ofcourse i don't want the world to end. I want the madness to end. But how? By making people understand that THIS IS MADNESS
For it to work though, it’s detonation would need to be fully automatic based on predefined conditions. Once set up, humans would need to be taken out of the equation because no human would detonate it.
@@mina86I would right here, right now. And before any of you ask I don't have major issues, I don't need therapy, but humans on a large scale are not working. We need a hard reset. At least that's my opinion. The only thing I would regret destroying is nature and animals, but we are getting there only on the slower route.
I am confident no one who ever lived, or perhaps a handful at best, really, as in *REALLY* understands Einsteins and Newton's inner machinations - No, I am not counting myself among those so please don't. I am of course not talking about their finished theories, a lot of people these days understand that, at least on a surface level, and all educated in physics at a usable level. The level of abstract thinking they possessed and more importantly used in a way that gave practical, usable results, is simply on another level compared to the rest of us, including anyone who is alive right now. (No, Neil Degrasse Tyson is not anywhere near and not even worth mentioning but some people like to bring him up because that is what a "scientist" is in their minds, except he actually is just a celebrity physics lexicon and not a researcher). It is incredible how Newton went from observing the orbits of planets to concluding that he needed to, essentially, create a whole new area of mathematics. Then applying that more or less new language to objects in the sky to produce the single most revolutionary scientific theory besides, perhaps, the Standard Model (Don't ask me to explain it, I cannot, I just know it is hugely successful). The most impressive thing about Newton's theory of gravity to me was/is that it still holds up, it just turned out that it was only a minor part of the whole that is Einstein's theory of relativity. Now, that is intelligence and thinking on a level that will make you appear mad to the public, especially back in Newton's time, while it made perfect sense for him and later, the public, just several hundred years later.
This manifestation of madness comes from a mind teetering on the very brink, but has a sane mind ever produced anything of true significance? -Frenzied Coldblood description, Bloodborne.
2026: Donald Trump: "Now _this_ device will _certainly_ blow up any hurricane big-time, right?" Scientists: "There's four of us, and one of him and he's 80 years old, let's do what the courts couldn't..."
My dad worked with Edward Teller at Livermore. Edward Teller was actually a very sweet man. His wife cooked my whole family a very nice dinner once. By this time, they must both have been in their 80s. He was a misunderstood genius. I think the media has hyped Oppenheimer up to be a nice person, but he could be vicious in his personal life. The movie is un balanced.
lmao this is actually really damn good. Teller was both insane but completely practical. As Kurzgesagt said, dude basically skipped to the end. With the benefit of decades of additional nuclear arms creation, testing and accumulation behind us but in the years after Teller's pseudo-madness, it really doesn't seem as insane as it should. One would hope that it would basically scare humanity straight, but unfortunately all it takes is one Dave Chapelle type habitual line-stepper to decide they wanna see what happens if they push and push and they either call the bluff or the world ends. If the bluff is called you then have people both no longer respecting the Great Deterrent but you also still have said weapon, and that just opens the door for the worst of all worlds where you have a horrible World War III where someone finally has enough and reverts Earth into a protoplanet.
They made him look much worse than he actually was, he was a Jew and had to leave Europe before WWII yet he still feared the soviets more and that is the reason he wanted to make a deterrent for them.
In his mind, he wanted to create a world where it made no sense to fight wars anymore. His goal was world peace, but of course we can argue about his questionable approach. We eventually got there without him anyways and peace couldn't be farther...
We do not make nuclear energy because, even IF it WERE used for peaceful purposes, then the forces of war would inevitably hit the nuclear facility, and. either that, or some other disaster like, say, a nuclear power plant accident, a tornado, an earthquake, or something like those things, could either breach the walls of the nuclear reactor rooms, and, by proxy, the nuclear power plant core, or they would cut off the power to said nuclear power plant core, and the last thing that you want is a nuclear power plant meltdown because s h i t gets REALLY bad at that point. There are three big incidents on why nuclear energy, at least nuclear fission based energy, is a bad idea, and they are The Three Mile Island Incident, The Chernobyl Incident, and The Fukushima Earthquake/Tsunami.
It's interesting how such a genius capable of creating sundial understands that its reasoning is perfect- no rational person would threaten the holder of such a weapon, but incapable of realizing that humans are not rational creatures.
I mean he could have easily been able to recognize that. It's as rational as nuclear weapons themselves - and cheaper, too. If you already have them, might as well go all in. Also if people were really that irrational we would have already died, so...
Is that true though? A rational creature would know, that the other rational creature would not want to end itself. In a world of perfect rationality - sundial is completely useless, the inverse of rationale is what would make it effective. What if *insert irrational world leader* presses the button?
That's good. These horrors are man-made and certainly intimidating, but they're not beyond comprehension, it's pretty well understood physics. That implies we should yet live to see the truly eldrtich ones and who's to say if they will even be scary after the current experiences?
@@SamWilkinsonn Not because we've seen it. Because we understand the principles behind them. We've understood long before building them in fact. Also, the people at the end of the XIXth century knew enough about physics, that it wouldn't take much filling in of blanks for them to get it too. They knew about atoms, thermodynamics, even x-rays. Some of the most important discoveries (in virtually any field imaginable) used today are from that period. You give them far too little credit.
@@Fossil_Frank if what you’re guessing at had any scientific basis then I could see your point (but still disagree.) Scientists didn’t really have any knowledge about the nuclear process (notably the chain reaction) until the 1930s. The biggest explosions anybody’d seen before 1900s were by dynamite (or similar) so they would have no idea of what a nuclear explosion would look like or how big it would be.
I love the psychology behind Teller's idea. Its like: "Yall want war fine I'll give you war." He gave the "great leaders" the power that even they were scared of. Wich is pretty rare when we look at politicians. Its like giving them a gun to a boxing mach. Of course they wont use it cuz that would be unfair and scary. I can't really explain it, but this is what came to my mind.
There were reasons why at the start of the movie there was that disclaimer from the USAF stating that what happened in the movie was impossible. The main reason was that Kubrick almost perfectly guessed US nuclear strategy at the time. The main difference from the movie to reality was that you didn’t necessarily needed to be a general, every single commissioned officer in the US military at the time had the authority to start WWIII on their own discretion. There were no locking mechanisms on Nuclear Weapons or launch codes that were used. A former Minuteman launch officer at the time explained that until 1977, the unlock code for their missiles was just twelve zeros. In an interview he recalled watching Dr. Strangelove and recalled that they had it all wrong. “We were just Lieutenants! We could’ve started WWIII just as easily as General Jack Ripper!” The only safeguard mechanism in the US arsenal preventing a nuclear apocalypse until, in the case of the US Navy, the 1980’s was phycological testing and screening. Had the public known that the movie accurately portrayed the insanity of US nuclear strategy, it would’ve caused such outrage that it would be impossible to ignore.
"the deciding factor was when we learned your country was working on the similar lines - and we were afraid of the Doomsday Gap" "that's preposterous! I've never approved of anything like that!" "our source was The New York Times"
As scary as it is, it would be a wonderful basis for a movie or game Imagine you are apart of a high level SF unit. You get briefed that an organization had broken in in an attempt to detonate sundial
We discover that our star is going to die out so in an attempt to save all life, he build a upscale sundial and send it to were the sun should be right ass it gets ready to yk (Could also just be lore for a ip, scientist were able to recolonize a system thought to be lost after the sun exploded by pretty much jumpstarting one with a hydrogen bomb big enough) A bomb likes this blow up and the only people who are safe are those already in space (kinda of done in other concepts before but would be kool of my original idea is a game or a series. )The beginning would be a terrorist cult who researched and found out about sundial. For a while they preach to the end of the world is coming, and they rally believers… just no one was expecting the end of the world to come so soon, and for the cult to bring it on them selves. If it’s a game, you could start of playing as like delta (or some future or more advanced equivalent) who has been put to guarding this just in case. No one thinks it’s what’s gonna happen but you can never be to sure. And it’s a good think you guys were because there is a massive attack on the facility holding sundial. It’s not looking to grim, intercom just announced the command center is being breached. You get there, see sum1 on controls and you drop him, but it’s too late, lights flash red and before you can figure out what to do… boom. Camera switches to space, a station in orbit takes some rumbles, maybe the power flickers cuz of emp waves from bomb. People look out the window in horror as the world is over. Not sure were it would go from there but just thinking
it’s crazy that it’s so powerful, that it doesn’t even matter where it would explode. even though it was never actually built, the possibility, that it could be created is already terrifying. it’s basically a human made replica of a small star.
@@mattmilford8106 building it would require incredible amount of money and resources. Usually at that point people with more strategic approach will plead for smaller weapons that keep winning side alive. There was a point where both sides openly dreamed about doomsday devices. Fact is, people footing the bill are not suicidal.
I'm so glad there is at least one major youtuber who talks about nuclear disarmament. It's slipped out of the mainstream consciousness so thank you for keeping making videos about it. Remember the probability of nuclear war approaches 100% the longer we have them.
Yeah. Btw, talking about nuclear disarmament is the same as talking about disarmament. I barely see the last, so I don´t wonder why the first is uncommon
Nah, it doesn't, gamblers fallacy, actually if we would know the day of last nuclear weapons expiring then every day probability of nuclear war would decrease. Nuclear race is funny cause it's basically a version of prisoner's dillemma, if no country builds a nuclear weapon - we all get conventional warfare, all the countries build nuclear weapons - we all get conventional warfare with a threat of nuclear attack, one country builds nuclear weapons while other do not - that country can delete any enemy by nuclear attack
Yeah, I’m all for talking about this, I guess I’ve just never seen an actual proposal on how to do this. I feel like the treaties made in the past between Russia and the US are all we have to go on.
As somebody who's been extensively reading about the cold war history for the past months, I must say, this is an excellent abridged version of the entire conflict, and I didn't even know much about the Project Sundial itself, so this is extremely interesting to find out about. Excellent description of what people in the first half of the 20th century might've experienced, the fastest advance of both technology and war prowess in history, from horses and tachankas to supersonic strategic bombers and weapons of inconcievable destruction that only science fiction writers could've imagined 50 years ago...
According to my professor this project was planned for a good reason to be funded and built by the US and to be given to Israel, however sadly when JFK became a president didn't like the idea at all.
Nope. It's Herman Kahn. If you watch the movie, note when Dr. Strangelove talks about the BLAND corporation. Kahn worked for RAND. Also they are visually similar and - of course - Kahn was the leading doomsday theorist - the job performed by Dr. Strangelove
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From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king. Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
Whoever did the sound design for this episode did an outstanding job
Epic Mountain did.
The music is unbelievably good
That explosion animations was also amazing! The way it blurred the screen made it look like something powerful went off
You saved me from watching this without sound, thank you!
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Humans are geniuses at self-delete.
We were born to die
What a moronic comment considering we haven't committed self delete even once yet..
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@@NL-87710I mean... eh??? We reproduce, THEN die.
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Oppenheimer: *lives the entire rest of his life after Hiroshima in immense guilt and feelings of hopelessness from the fact that he just gave humanity the capacity to annihilate itself*
Meanwhile Teller:
Teller: "That's Bulls#!t Oppenheimer. I can make a bigger, more destructive bomb! Get on my level noob!"
Teller: hold my sundial
Man uses immense logic and reasoning, to conceive a *"Delete"* -button for humanity.
While using none, to actually think if we need or should be trusted with it, in the first place.
The logic behind deterrence is sound, it's just cold mathematics which places national sovereignty above all else@@Sin_Of_Greed
Yeah this dude had 🏀🏀
I met Teller in 1962 as a high school senior winner of the Bell Science award. What he most wanted to do was explore the solar sysytem using nuclear powered rockets - one design would use small fission bombs against a pusher-plate for propulsion. This would have to be built in space so as not to put a lot of radioactive material in the atmosphere. He was a very engaging talker.
Oh, you mean the Orion Drive? Whole lotta people took that idea and ran with it as a feasible intrasolar drive
Thats soo cool
Three body problem show did this
@luck7572 the books actually went more in depth with it in the technicalities.
They even raised the moral question of assassinating people that would hinder humanities great leap forward.
When faster that light speed is achieved in the books it's explained so eloquently. Like I think it's the best description of time dilation I've read
Where did life take you after that award?
the way he says "if a bomb can destroy the whole world, why even bother moving it?" had me rolling.
The idea was for a smaller version to put it for example underwater and capitalise on deadly tsunamis. Otherwise it would waste energy by just blowing the atmosphere into space…
i mean its a mad mad idea… but you see how they were thinking still destroying the enemy (and life) with something they cant even stop…
Sundial is a crazy concept
@@mityaboy4639 Good thing we already have such devices.
@@ceu160193We currently don’t
@@ceu160193 lol
@@mityaboy4639 i think underwater, maybe it wouldn't be capable of generating deadly tsunamis.
7:00 “A number so big, it doesn’t mean anything anymore.”
That gave me chills.
actually it does mean something. the fact that we humans can't comprehend the magnitude of the number doesn't meant it has no meaning. In any case, it has no meaning for us humans. but it DOES have a meaning, we only can't understand it.
@@kerolokerokeroloI think what they meant was the number's so big it doesn't matter if it gets any larger
@@kerolokerokerolo no.
The whole concept of "meaning" is figment of our minds. If we can't comprehend it, then there is literally no meaning.
@@different_stuff do you realize other beings can have intelligence and others could understand it even though he humans couldn't? do you think humans are the only animals with a brain and logic reasoning?
@@originzz oh, it makes more sense now haha
7:45 Dude, I absolutely LOVE the sound design on this part.
My favourite part!
Fallout 2 baby!
I need that on imax quality
SAME IT'S SOOO GOOD
Cool
If Oppenheimer is compared to Prometheus, Teller is definitly Pandora
what
Pandora the all gifted or one with many gifts, it was not only her curiosity that drove her to open that Pithos, with her excellent mind one gifted by Hermes and Athena, she knowingly released upon forth the forbidden contents onto humanity, all the while a horrible little remnant yet remains that burn intensely with wretched fervor, free to leave but never does.
I appreciate that this is presented with compassion for the people caught up in the terror of the Cold War.
Yea, this is very deep, like imagine knowing this can be detonated in an instant. You Won't even know since the shock wave is horrifyingly fast and you can't see it!
Can't help but think something similar awaits us with militaries around the world rapidly adopting autonomous AI weapons, laser and tiny explosive quadcopters that can fly anywhere they want.
Building bombs is never an act of compassion
@@The-Animist-Way But building fusion bombs is an act of _compression_ 🙂
We built so many because human failure in the system was built in. Some people would refuse to launch. Also some systems would malfunction.
8:50 - if THE US military responds to your idea with "that's too much bro" then you know you went a little too far.
Clearly! Why did they plan tests as in plural, the highest point in your career would be your last point
after a single succesful test
@Murderouscat-jt4qd I was thinking about that while watching. There is no testing it. You just wait for the moment of truth, and It either works or it doesn't.
@@Murderouscat-jt4qd I assume they would probably be testing smaller scale versions of Sundial. A less devastating model that would serve as a proof of concept. They can't test the real thing because... well, yeah.
thats what makes me believe that sundial actually was created. US military never says too much
@@chromab7713 yes but they had tests SCHEDULED which is the crazy part
Oppenheimer: *wracked with grief over unleashing Pandora's box*
Meanwhile Teller: "MORE MORE MORE"
Teller is based it seems.
And if you were to meet him in real life, he was a kind and considerate person.
Real horrors are not made with world-ending weapons.
A sick person with a knife can make things FAR more scary and horrid than a weapon that just ends it all.
I doubt this was supposed to be funny, but I immediately thought of the song that says "more more more, how do you like it, how do you like it" and laughed out loud
@@EEsmalls I thought of Billy Idol instead.
@@EEsmalls Don't worry, I'm just referencing the meme of Kylo Ren shooting at Luke Skywalker
I feel like the possibility of a Teller being out there is the exact reason Oppenheimer was grief ridden.
Oppenheimer: You were excommunicated by a gang of psychopaths.
Teller: I am the league of shadows and I shall fulfill Ra's destiny.
I never thought I would hear "Nuclear Matrioska Doll", but now that I have heard it, I don't think I can ever forget it.
That's the way some thermonuclear bombs works, a first stage which produces gamma rays, it activates a second stage, later this second stage activates a third and later.
I'm fairly certain the more common description was "nuclear layer cake". The Tsar Bomba was 3 layers deep. Presumably Project Sundial would have been several layers deep.
I had something similar happen. I am a physics student and went to a lecture about neutron stars. She was talking about the hot spots on these stars and how they were caused by thermonuclear hurricanes. This made me feel positive that at least earth's weather isn't this fucked
@userJohnSmith No. Isn't.
@userJohnSmith Reminds me of Planetary Annihilation 😆
'Even the US military thought this was a bit much' - Now that's a phrase to send a chill down your spine
Why, really? US and the West invented and USED against humans ALL the types and sorts of WMK and WMD (except bio-weaponry, in which their another ally - Japan, excelled).
So, the “Empire of Good” isn’t really what it says it is
Delete "US" from sentence and it would be same. Country doesn't matter here.
@ Oh, really? Can you provide with another example, of such a reckless, dumb and inhuman behavior, besides NATO pact gangs?
@@skywillfindyou Yea, no. It does matter. The US military is the most powerful and reckless one to ever exist. Disregarding military invasions on hundreds of countries, they are the ones who have used nuclear bombs on civilians.
"Problem" was in USSR - they made (in 1956-1961) own h-bomb, more powerful, and more dangerous. "next-gen" hydrogen bomb. Most powerful bomb in the world. (AN602). ))))
No one word about it in this "scientific" video.
Even by the standard of the Manhattan Project, Teller was insane. And modern evidence suggests that he betrayed both sides to the other; after trinity he became obsessed with getting a bigger bang. He was in many ways a brilliant scientist, but also a warning case about destructive obsessions.
He's starting to sound like the villain from RED 2
o.0;
Based
This @@wo-th9gi
He was making a bigger point.
Would it be fair to argue he was a really smart nuclear pyromaniac? (See also "The Atomic Boy Scout")
Imagine what this guy's 'Hold my bear' moment would look like
3:20
"One man knew how to make nightmares real." Is a surprisingly cold line.
Well he was insane if that isn't obvious, incredibly smart, yes but insane nonetheless!
Teller was, there is no other word for it, an evil man. Not only did he push fusion bombs and this monstrosity as "saviors" of the West, he also propounded missile defense (Star Wars), which would have been profoundly destabilizing because the Soviets would have been faced with "use it or lose it" for their nukes. Thank heaven Star Wars turned out to be only a scam played on a senile Ronald Reagan.
Benjamín Netanyahu is proving to be the man, then
Man that statement really hits home because I have been having dreams of nuclear bombs lately and it’s kinda scary with what’s going on in the world…
Yeah
5:35 I LOVE this sound effect, it's so ominous
My favourite of this video is 7:45, the sfx team knocked it out of the park with this one
It reminded me Fallout Tactics OST, it had such moments.
Reminds me of the "City of the Dead" soundtrack from Fallout 2
What's the sound effect name, pls tell :)
chonky cat 😊
8:58 That is not a crime against humanity, it's a crime against life on earth.
And yet... I feel the actual real reason it was never built was the second reason, that it gives no room for any negotiation. Like, "hey, you're attacking me, so I'll destroy the world" sounds... bizarre... like, "you're trying to kill me, so I'll kill myself first and then you'll die too".
A crime against sanity.
Life don't care about monkeys changing the landscape for petty things.
Gaia-cide 🌎💥
a crime against life as we know it
5:14
"He has stolen the fire from the gods and awoken cosmic horrors but insisted that it was still not enough".
That line gives everything to know about Teller
3:17 "Fear had to be met with much greater horrors, and one man knew how to make nightmares real." Is such an intense line.
**Doctor of the End: The Sundial's Dream**
In a world tense with fear, where shadows grew deep,
A doctor emerged, from where dark visions creep.
Not content with the fires that already burned,
He sought a new power, a lesson unlearned.
A mind sharp as glass, with cold logic aligned,
He dreamt of an end that could humble mankind.
For he saw nations tremble, gripped by the race,
A madness where ruin wore ambition's face.
So he sketched out a horror, the Sundial Bomb,
A thing born of silence, a world’s quiet calm.
This wasn’t a missile, or a warhead to throw-
It needed no launch to reap its deathblow.
In his mind’s eye he saw it, a tower of light,
A sun that could blaze through the veil of the night.
A star on the earth, with a heart forged in fire,
Unleashing a death that no god could require.
It held ten billion tons of pure TNT,
A power so vast it could unmake the sea.
A flash fifty kilometers wide in its wake,
All life, all matter, it would scorch and remake.
He proposed it as final, an ultimate vow,
To silence the world if they dared disavow.
One press of a button, if one dared to defy,
And the earth itself would burn and die.
Yet even the bold shuddered at the sight
Of a weapon so vast it eclipsed day and night.
The military halted, appalled by the thought-
A power so dark, even they dared it not.
The doctor stood silent, his grand vision undone,
A mind left to linger where no light could run.
For the monster he’d dreamt lay quiet, entombed,
An untested requiem, a world unexhumed.
Years turned to silence, but echoes remain,
Of a vision so cold it could bring endless rain.
This doctor who saw both the end and its dread,
Left a mark on our souls, though his dream was dead.
In the dark, his ambition still lingers near,
A shadow, a whisper of human fear.
A man who walked deeper than reason can see,
In search of an answer-our own entropy.
@@normalguy5208wow this is really good!
@@normalguy5208 Just wanted you to know, that poem was so good I just saved it to my hard drive (though I will be making slight changes to the verbage and timing in a few lines to have a more natural flow)... I bow to your genius
Did you know there's a simple secret that can completely change the way you see the world around you?
@@normalguy5208“A madness where ruin wore ambition‘s face“?? Where do you all get those absolutely mindblowing lines from?
*playing chess against Teller* "Hey, what do you have there?"
"A bomb, and I swear to god if you as much as touch any of my pieces I'm gonna obliterate us!"
What a monumental idiot he must have been.
That is analogous to turning over the board...
@@alirizvi5878 What do you mean with turning over? Flipping it upside down?
@@starlight_garden obviously
this is unironically such a good metaphor for nuclear warfare
3:20 "But what if we destroy humanity even harder ? " - ah , classic Kurzgesagt , always delivering these wonderful lines
Did you know there's a simple secret that can completely change the way you see the world around you?
on par with the Hat Guy from xkcd
Problem is, this time it wasn't just a funny thought experiment like turning earth into gold.. It was an actual project designed by "sane" people
To say Teller went too far is, in my view, an understatement. Guy didn't know when to hit the brakes, and he never, ever, regretted it.
Great sound design often goes unnoticed because it feels so natural, yet it's a critical component that can make or break a viewer's connection to the story. Kudos to the sound team for their outstanding work-it’s clear they put in extra effort to make this episode resonate on every level.
it was a theory bomb. It showed the absurbity of nuclear arm race. Why world a country have 100+ nuclear bombs? If so they could all destroy the world. This just showed that nuclears was just stupid to have. Why have hundreds of nukes, if one country has a bomb that can destroy everything, when they wanted? Either they build the same world ending bomb or start thinking about removing nukes ...
I love the shuttering sound effect when the sundial nuke goes off.
I know its based from a real nuke recording. I can't remember exactly what nuke it was, i want to say the Trinity test but it could be from a different one, but I remember that Crazy sound . Its like a low sub bass noise wave from the radiation interfering with the electronics. I think they said you couldn't hear that sound with your ears, it was a crazy artifact picked up by the recording equipment.
Dang it! Now I have to find that video about this haha.
Excellent sound design for sure. Sound design in general doesn't get enough love, especially with today's movies having more and more CGI, the audience doesn't realize that this whole insane render of a battle is completely silent, it takes people who have keen eyes and ears and intense attention to detail to bring a render to life, people don't realize that every thing that moves or touches something is going to make a sound, and sometimes matching reality isn't enough, they also have a library of knowledge and subtle sounds that can really bring a scene to life.
Unsung heros for sure!
Oppenheimer : "We built something horrible..."
Teller : "I wonder how a city would look like if we dropped Betelgeuse on it"
Oppenheimer : "What ?"
Teller : "What?"
Teller in fact did want more atom and nuclear bombs dropped on human beings so he could study the effects.
😂😂😂
Teller be like
@@doncarlin9081 "study the effects"
= masturbate with baby oil?
GO BEARS?
So basically, it's a "I'll flip the table if you kill my pawn" kind of deterrent
Haha
@@jadenfarquhar And for the past 70 years, its worked.
The only viable kind of detterent tbh. Make it so insanely costly to play that no one even tries.
It’s more like “I’ll make chess extinct so that you’ll never be able to play it again” kind of deterrent.
@@GusOfTheDorks yeh famously theres no wars or armed conflicts anymore
Teller is the kinda guy who sees Exterminatus in Warhammer 40k and thinks “hey cool! Let’s do it!”
Never show him the hammer of dawn from gears of war too 😂
“Ferb… I know what we’re going to do today”
No
Doofensmirtz: Behold! The end-of-the-world-inator!
@@garg4531 like putting the self destruction button to the world
@@GuilleSoler91 omg yes
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I really appreciate the sound effects team. It was terrifying with added with the graphics at 7:48. it sent chills
Sounds like Tenet.
Hearing that most of the information about project sundial is confidential and we don't know almost anything about it is really gonna make me sleep tonight.
Maybe they couldn't make it work.
@@brodriguez11000 If they made it work, we wouldn't be talking about it.
@@brodriguez11000Or maybe they already have.
Apparently we know it was never built, so that could help?
Real
I remember in Anathem by Neil Stephens there was a "planet killer": a fusion bomb the size of a large asteroid, which, when detonated near the planet, would just burn everything on the one side with pure radiant energy (not even a blast wave, just so much visible light that even steel would melt under this.)
Sundial sounds like it was a blueprint for that idea.
the music in this is haunting and terrifying, you can hear air raid sirens in almost every minute and it fits. really gives me new vegas sierra madre vibes, an endless stasis after the death of humanity that awaits us if we ever destroy the world and everyone on it...
Came looking for this, phenomenal soundtrack! I still remember "RobotRights" from an old video of theirs with the same name. The guys at Epic Mountain absolutely deserve their name!
Teller: Kaboom?
Government: Yes Edward, Kaboom.
Teller: How big the bomb should be ?
Government: Yes !
That Madagascar Penguins reference.
More like “NO EDWARD! NOT KABOOM!!!”
10:28 " *but if an alien visited earth, it might ask us if we are ok and need a hug* , most accurate line ever
I'm leaving with them ngl
Look up aliens visiting nuclear bases. There is plenty of evidence of UAPs with technology beyond humans flying around. It's even been reported under oath in congress.
So you are ok with bashing skulls in with wooden sticks, but a thing not supposed to be fired AT ALL is what scares you?
@@getsideways7257where did they say that
@@revron9683 They want all nukes removed. Do that, and suddenly there is much more conventional weapons fighting going around on a much larger scale. Why do you think there was no "proper" WWIII yet?
05:02 sorry but the birds playing battleship then suddenly getting tabletop nuked is HILARIOUS
Dr Strangelove intensifies.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room!!!
The whole point of the doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret.
Why didn't you tell the world, eh?
Watching geopolitics is like watching a non-entertaining gangster movie
by them punks living soft while I ride that bomb Dr. Strangelove into the sun look no hands megatons
Mine fuhrer, I can walk!
teller is quite literally a mad scientist. the combination of a genius and a psychopath
No he was guy WHO belive madness can be ended by other madness. Fight fire with fire.
Could say the same about the social media
Bio weaponry is leagues scarier.
Aids and covid.
Fauci, headed both departments v
Genius?... using someone else's work to make a bigger bomb... that is no genius. genius would be the man that creates immortality. everything would change from a land of FOOLS to a land of justice
@@ngageman1988better to bluff and have it than bluff and not
Had an ad at 10:43 open with "let's get ready rumble". I think the algorithm has something against us
I’m ready!
Lol. I live in Pennsylvania in the US so I got two political ads. Just to remind me who would be responsible for weapons like these... It made it worse.
@@LiftTheFogThis fay has been nerve-wracking honestly
RUclips has ads?
Weird. You should block those.
@@wasd____ It was the irony. I wasn't complaining. Sorry if I upset you. I didn't mean to.
Tsar Bomba: I am the most destructive and potent nuke above the rest.
Sundai: Am i joke to you?
1:06 "Imagine growing up in this world and seeing change almost too fast to keep up with."
I was playing an NES as a kid and was blown away that I could point a toy gun at the screen and the ducks would fall down in the game.
30 years later, we have algorithms that can synthesize text, audio, images, and video. And we are only in the early caveman stages of this "AI" stuff.
I don't need to imagine change that's too fast to keep up with.
It gets faster.
Age 41 here. Going back to college is so weird; my peers don't have a fraction of my perspective. I remember floppy disks, DOS, and the sound of a modem start-up will never leave me. I try to explain how it was like looking up jokes on AOL before search engines, or just the wonderment of simple games like "Think Quick" or Moore's law or microfiche/film, but it doesn't compute.
@hectormelendez4891 well naturally it does. Technology progresses more so exponentially rather than a fixed rate. Early levels of technology take a little bit to be developed, but once a certain threshold has been hit the rate at which our Technology advances slowly goes up exponentially and as time goes on that rate of advancement will be so high that the type of speed you are thinking about is possible, however us as a species are not that far along yet into the technology exponential increase. We are getting close thats for sure, and the current technology we have is being made at an even faster pace, however we are still a few generations off of having a full on advance rate of the futuristic media we have seen.
We're in the sorta weird transitional period/infant new age, we've crossed from analog to digital and our technology allows world wide connection and wireless access to said connection on a massive scale. But we are only just in the real true beginning of these technologies taking off and taking root.
Technology will absolutely increase in speed of creation until we die off or magically hit some singularity evolving mega equation that cracks the laws of space, time, gravity, depth, and God lol
My dad brought home a Coleco Telstar, not only could we point a gun at the screen but also drive an on screen car.
"What manner of dark sorcery is this?!?"
Anyway.. Back to playing half-life Alex on my oculus rift while I also broadcast it to an Internet connected TV for my gf's amusement.
In the 1990s people was blown away by toy story. A 3D movie rendered by data center, not real time at all.
Nowadays everyone have a supercomputer in they pocket (smartphone) what can run games similarly good graphics in real time ... ok all game with good graphics are from china and have anime style what not everyone likes (in west) but still...
10:48 "It's up to us to use our sense of curiosity and exploration for something positive" 😂 nice way to wrap up a video about nuclear annihilation
US Military: "And this weapon will help us defeat the Soviets?"
Teller: "Defeat the Soviets?"
Teller: nah I want to destroy the world
More like defeat humanity
Dr Strangelove
It'll defeat all our enemies forever lol
Technically, yes!
For anyone demoralized by our own species in particular, it's important to remember that most relevant experts believe that if life does indeed exist out there in the universe, it would be subject to natural selection just as we are. This means that it would also be, by definition, competitive.
Other intelligent life would suffer from the same quandaries we do as a result. They would probably even have their own nuclear arms races. We can only hope we all survive long enough to grow out of it eventually.
Or we all die because we are on the losing side of natural selection - after all, natural selection applies to whole species too.
I’ll have that alien’s hug now.
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Sorry I wanted to try too.
teller: *brings a flamethrower to a chess match*
opponent: um, what’s that?
teller: if you so much as capture my knight, i’m burning the whole damn board!
,,And both of us as well,,
"And your house"
And our country
And the earth
"Its for everyone's benefit"
The lag from the tnt is gonna be insane bro
nah its so bad, you start moving back in time
We get an epic slide show
we all would get disconnected from the server
"How much TNT did you put down?
"Just a little bit."
"What's a little bit?"
"10,000."
Not even a nasa computer would handle it well
8:40 the distrustful side of me just said “no”. I feel shivers down my spine now.
"Hey fellow alien what was earth like?"
"The dominant species has built 12,000 bombs designed to wipe out millions in a flash"
"So, they're an intelligent species?"
"Well, they're aiming them at each other, so..."
more like 80 000 plus 5 that each could factory reset the planet
“So Intelligently Feral?”
“Yeah let’s go with that”
humanity is probably the most horrifying species in the universe and that's why no one wants to interact with us. They'd rather wait quietly until we destroy ourselves than meet us and have all of those planet obliterators pointed at them
I was just reading one of the Animorph books recently, one of the ones that delves more into the actual sci-fi war happening elsewhere, and the Andalites are both like "Oh, they have Nuclear Weapons and primitive space travel, alright, neat, keep an eye on them" and then also "Wait, you just got out of a war?? But you only have one sapient species, who were you fighting?? EACH OTHER?!??! What?!"
bro im rethinking our place in this vast cosmos like i bet if you ask anybody that isn t mentally ill would you build something that can wipe out the world theyd say no i wouldd never do that
5:50 A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Or to go all in.
Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?
Even you don't play you can still lose
Elite reference
Like Human females when confronted by gender ideologues that allow on a FEELING/ self identification Men to destroy women's safe spaces . Only way to win for women is to ... Not play .
Bro made the "If I die, I'm taking you all with me" nuclear bomb
An idea
With this sacred treasure I summon....
That's the whole point. It's not a "weapon" as much as an "eff around and find out" kind of a device.
MAD warfare was already threatening to do that for the post part, which is why this bomb was technically obsolete, as the video mentioned. The terrible (and very interesting) fact about deterrence warfare is that, to ensure peace, your weapon needs to be able to commit atrocities no one would ever want and be guaranteed to trigger should something go wrong. That is the only way it can work. If there is ANY doubt that you will launch this weapon, your enemy suddenly has room to call your bluff.
The bucket-crab bomb
Thanks!
Thanks a lot for your support! ✨🙏
Teller: Yo can you give me moderator perms real quick? Just wanna try somethin
**A few moments later...**
[Edward Teller has been kicked from the game]
Lmao
He was the incarnation of the self destructive intrusive thoughts.
Man uses immense logic and reasoning, to conceive a *"Delete"* -button for humanity.
While using none, to actually think if we need or should be trusted with it, in the first place.
-Deletes the server
/fill
What Oppenheimer thought in horror, Teller seemed to think a boast.
*"Now I am become Death. The Destroyer of Worlds."*
Teller took it as homework. ^.^
the sheer betrayal of finding out this channel isn't run exclusively by little birbs
Yea its run by special interest groups.
the horror! DX
*presses big red button*
Outrageous!!!
Hope nobody presses the sundial over this. 😜
Oppenheimer: *Creating Nuclear Bomb*
Teller: This is where the fun begins
I absolutely love the music composition of this video. The haunting horn-like sound is an amazingly fitting leitmotif for nuclear weapons. It echoes the sound of air raid sirens.
Also, on this topic, I am very proud of my country, Australia.
I could understand his logic. It's either we stop because the it could end the world, or just end it all.
The moment military recoiled from the thought of it really speaks volume about how effective it is in delivering his message.
Plot twist: Maybe he never actually wanted to build that bomb. But by making it a feasible reality, he successfully scared the world into realizing just how absurd an ever-escalating nuclear race would be.
@Alblaka exactly! I would do the same if i were him.
Ofcourse i don't want the world to end. I want the madness to end. But how? By making people understand that THIS IS MADNESS
@@MichaelHarto
It's the ultimate Mom/Dad answer:
"I don't care who started it or how; I end it now!"
For it to work though, it’s detonation would need to be fully automatic based on predefined conditions. Once set up, humans would need to be taken out of the equation because no human would detonate it.
@@mina86I would right here, right now.
And before any of you ask I don't have major issues, I don't need therapy, but humans on a large scale are not working. We need a hard reset. At least that's my opinion.
The only thing I would regret destroying is nature and animals, but we are getting there only on the slower route.
The line between genius and madness is very fine. That goes for species as well as individuals.
There is no line. These are two entirely separate things. A human can be neither, either or both.
I am confident no one who ever lived, or perhaps a handful at best, really, as in *REALLY* understands Einsteins and Newton's inner machinations - No, I am not counting myself among those so please don't. I am of course not talking about their finished theories, a lot of people these days understand that, at least on a surface level, and all educated in physics at a usable level.
The level of abstract thinking they possessed and more importantly used in a way that gave practical, usable results, is simply on another level compared to the rest of us, including anyone who is alive right now.
(No, Neil Degrasse Tyson is not anywhere near and not even worth mentioning but some people like to bring him up because that is what a "scientist" is in their minds, except he actually is just a celebrity physics lexicon and not a researcher).
It is incredible how Newton went from observing the orbits of planets to concluding that he needed to, essentially, create a whole new area of mathematics. Then applying that more or less new language to objects in the sky to produce the single most revolutionary scientific theory besides, perhaps, the Standard Model (Don't ask me to explain it, I cannot, I just know it is hugely successful).
The most impressive thing about Newton's theory of gravity to me was/is that it still holds up, it just turned out that it was only a minor part of the whole that is Einstein's theory of relativity. Now, that is intelligence and thinking on a level that will make you appear mad to the public, especially back in Newton's time, while it made perfect sense for him and later, the public, just several hundred years later.
This manifestation of madness comes from a mind
teetering on the very brink, but has a sane mind ever
produced anything of true significance?
-Frenzied Coldblood description, Bloodborne.
2026:
Donald Trump: "Now _this_ device will _certainly_ blow up any hurricane big-time, right?"
Scientists: "There's four of us, and one of him and he's 80 years old, let's do what the courts couldn't..."
Teller: I’m gonna use that line as toilet paper
This is insanely well made I LOVE it.
If Oppenheimer is the father of the atomic bomb, Edward Teller is the abusive stepdad...
💀💀💀
My dad worked with Edward Teller at Livermore. Edward Teller was actually a very sweet man. His wife cooked my whole family a very nice dinner once. By this time, they must both have been in their 80s. He was a misunderstood genius. I think the media has hyped Oppenheimer up to be a nice person, but he could be vicious in his personal life. The movie is un balanced.
lmao this is actually really damn good.
Teller was both insane but completely practical. As Kurzgesagt said, dude basically skipped to the end. With the benefit of decades of additional nuclear arms creation, testing and accumulation behind us but in the years after Teller's pseudo-madness, it really doesn't seem as insane as it should. One would hope that it would basically scare humanity straight, but unfortunately all it takes is one Dave Chapelle type habitual line-stepper to decide they wanna see what happens if they push and push and they either call the bluff or the world ends. If the bluff is called you then have people both no longer respecting the Great Deterrent but you also still have said weapon, and that just opens the door for the worst of all worlds where you have a horrible World War III where someone finally has enough and reverts Earth into a protoplanet.
They made him look much worse than he actually was, he was a Jew and had to leave Europe before WWII yet he still feared the soviets more and that is the reason he wanted to make a deterrent for them.
bro turned years of wars into an after thought
You know how some people rage quit at monopoly when they are about to lose. He made that into a bomb.
*US hegemony gets contested*
"WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON...."
US Army: "Talk about wiping the board..."
Teller: "Haha, you meant *planet* right?"
Teller almost sounds like a cartoonish villain, effectively designing a doomsday device
In his mind, he wanted to create a world where it made no sense to fight wars anymore. His goal was world peace, but of course we can argue about his questionable approach. We eventually got there without him anyways and peace couldn't be farther...
why did i think of that guy from phineas and ferb
@@balazskoti2603 I think he especially wanted to be the one who created the most destructive weapon you can think of.
He wanted to shake those politicians awake
@@balazskoti2603 And that is the template of perfect cartoonish villain, the one wanted a better world but others think he went too far.
I’ve watched a lot of these informational videos, but the animation in this one really stood out-it was both stunning and incredibly engaging!
Spending an insane amount of money on Nuclear Weapons : Yes Please
Spending an insane amount of money on Nuclear Energy : We Don't Do That Here
Underrated comment 👏
Rollin coal...
We do not make nuclear energy because, even IF it WERE used for peaceful purposes, then the forces of war would inevitably hit the nuclear facility, and. either that, or some other disaster like, say, a nuclear power plant accident, a tornado, an earthquake, or something like those things, could either breach the walls of the nuclear reactor rooms, and, by proxy, the nuclear power plant core, or they would cut off the power to said nuclear power plant core, and the last thing that you want is a nuclear power plant meltdown because s
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t gets REALLY bad at that point. There are three big incidents on why nuclear energy, at least nuclear fission based energy, is a bad idea, and they are The Three Mile Island Incident, The Chernobyl Incident, and The Fukushima Earthquake/Tsunami.
coal and oil barrons are starting to lose ground to renewables
Spending an insane amount of money on welfare programs for poor citizens: NOPE
Human are good at solving problems, but even better at creating them.
Yeah that is right we do more harm than good and that's the frequent nature of humanity 😑😑😑😒😒😒
Based humans
@@tv_thats_dumb_i_guess ain't that the truth for us to say where the smartest species out there we do some pretty dumb shit
@peternandi5362 hey if we ain't making problems then what is there to fix? 😂
@@JohnDublin-h5x You know that's so fucking true It's so fucking true It's not even funny anymore because it is 😂😂😂😂😂
It's interesting how such a genius capable of creating sundial understands that its reasoning is perfect- no rational person would threaten the holder of such a weapon, but incapable of realizing that humans are not rational creatures.
The perfect “Everyone Loses” button
*press* What's this button do?
I mean he could have easily been able to recognize that. It's as rational as nuclear weapons themselves - and cheaper, too. If you already have them, might as well go all in.
Also if people were really that irrational we would have already died, so...
Is that true though?
A rational creature would know, that the other rational creature would not want to end itself.
In a world of perfect rationality - sundial is completely useless, the inverse of rationale is what would make it effective. What if *insert irrational world leader* presses the button?
best way to put it imo
Whoever makes these videos is so cool. I appreciate your time and effort. The animations, the sounds, even the voice I don’t mind listening to lol.
"You May Live to See Man-Made Horrors Beyond Your Comprehension."
- Nikola Tesla, 1898
That's good. These horrors are man-made and certainly intimidating, but they're not beyond comprehension, it's pretty well understood physics. That implies we should yet live to see the truly eldrtich ones and who's to say if they will even be scary after the current experiences?
@@Fossil_Frank Worse, we may _be_ the eldritch ones...
@@Fossil_Frankthey’re not beyond comprehension anymore because we’ve seen it. It would’ve been incomprehensible to the people in 1898 though.
@@SamWilkinsonn Not because we've seen it. Because we understand the principles behind them. We've understood long before building them in fact. Also, the people at the end of the XIXth century knew enough about physics, that it wouldn't take much filling in of blanks for them to get it too. They knew about atoms, thermodynamics, even x-rays. Some of the most important discoveries (in virtually any field imaginable) used today are from that period. You give them far too little credit.
@@Fossil_Frank if what you’re guessing at had any scientific basis then I could see your point (but still disagree.)
Scientists didn’t really have any knowledge about the nuclear process (notably the chain reaction) until the 1930s. The biggest explosions anybody’d seen before 1900s were by dynamite (or similar) so they would have no idea of what a nuclear explosion would look like or how big it would be.
I love the psychology behind Teller's idea. Its like: "Yall want war fine I'll give you war." He gave the "great leaders" the power that even they were scared of. Wich is pretty rare when we look at politicians. Its like giving them a gun to a boxing mach. Of course they wont use it cuz that would be unfair and scary. I can't really explain it, but this is what came to my mind.
Nope, they just didnt wanna die
Shall we call it the very fine line between mutually assured destruction and mutually assured extinction?
He did made bombs so big, that nobody nuked nobody since he invented the Thermonuclear ones
I feel like a better metaphor than a gun would be a hand grenade but i like the visualization
@@bananacars1684 yes. the hand grenade is even better
You know it’s going to be good when it’s a video about bombs.
Yep.
It’s perfect for when you’re on the toilet 😊
babe wake up a new kurzgesagt bomb video just dropped.
Honey run! Im dropping sundial over here!!!
@ it’s more like “don’t worry honey there’s no point in running”
Finally, a weapon to destroy my brother's minecraft city
Lol
Big Bertha
I thought you said my brother's city...
oops
hahaha
F is for Fires that burn down the whole town
U is for Uranium, bombs
N is for No survivors when you-
Thanks for this, it made me smile
I can hear Plankton singing these lines
"K is for Kaboom that makes mushrooms in the sky
Y is for Yes, when you ask for the size."
7:24 FINAL EXPLOSION‼️‼️‼️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
No no no, it’s the other one
"And yes..
Even you, Kakarot.."
*Final explosion ensues*
Buu still gonna survive 😭
@@Gozieaaa World destruction got nothing on that regeneration
Perfect Cell: "How adorable! He named it after..HOLLY SHIT!!!"
Why would we want a weapon like this? “Insane level of madness.” Well said.
Basically a realistic version of "you won but at what cost"
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
No one wins nuclear war. Stalemate at best.
@@shooey-mcmossBLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
@@dingo8845 MILK FOR THE KHORNE-FLAKES!
A "Pyrrhic victory" in which a battle costs so much you can't continue the war.
The sound of the blast wave hits hard. Especially the audio that follows after.
I like how a bomb like this is a "crime against humanity" and not a crime against life itself.
Life can’t prosecute you. Humanity can.
Teller: You can't be prosecuted if there's no one left.
Sound Design Is The Best
I like how the video went from talking about world destroying nukes to getting a whimsical science project for your family
we must have fun even in this chaotic world :)
off topic but I haven't heard the word _whimsical_ in ages. what a nice word
This is how it all starts...😮
birbs don’t gaf about transitions
One and the same
>project sundial
>looks inside
>no actual sundial
>looks inside project sundial
>project sundial doesn’t exist
>tfw no actual sundial
0/10, literally unplayable.
It's good tho
there is a sun, though. for a little bit.
The bomb becomes the equivalent of a star (sun) for a few moments
Which means everything in the world becomes “the sundial”
Fear makes people do crazy things. That is happening in the world right now in so many different ways.
As we've seen during Corona
Glorified flu.
Least the rest of the universe will no longer have to worry about us spreading our evolutionary dead end.
Is Palestine one of those? I'm not sure if fear fits it
Teller had that unique combination of fear and unbound curiosity that led to this
Strangelove has turned out to be way more plausible than is healthy for my piece of mind.
If we learned anything these past few years, it should be that satire is dead as reality is far more ludicrous than anything a satirist can dream up.
They probably already built it and the bunkers too. Wasnt that movie released before the 60’s too?
There were reasons why at the start of the movie there was that disclaimer from the USAF stating that what happened in the movie was impossible. The main reason was that Kubrick almost perfectly guessed US nuclear strategy at the time. The main difference from the movie to reality was that you didn’t necessarily needed to be a general, every single commissioned officer in the US military at the time had the authority to start WWIII on their own discretion. There were no locking mechanisms on Nuclear Weapons or launch codes that were used. A former Minuteman launch officer at the time explained that until 1977, the unlock code for their missiles was just twelve zeros. In an interview he recalled watching Dr. Strangelove and recalled that they had it all wrong.
“We were just Lieutenants! We could’ve started WWIII just as easily as General Jack Ripper!”
The only safeguard mechanism in the US arsenal preventing a nuclear apocalypse until, in the case of the US Navy, the 1980’s was phycological testing and screening. Had the public known that the movie accurately portrayed the insanity of US nuclear strategy, it would’ve caused such outrage that it would be impossible to ignore.
"the deciding factor was when we learned your country was working on the similar lines - and we were afraid of the Doomsday Gap"
"that's preposterous! I've never approved of anything like that!"
"our source was The New York Times"
A cobolt sundial shouldn't be too hard on a technical level.
As an alien, I would like to give humans a hug.
Hug them and u end up as their permanent captive. No thanks
@@christeanaz
Don't hug them and you end up dead.
Save yourself. We'll self destruct very soon.
Thank you. We’re offering three tiers of relationship: Partner, pet or perish. Choose wisely
@@TheRealBelisariusCawl Pet, as long as you treat us like we treat cats I wouldn't mind.
Oppenheimer: Ctrl+Alt+Delete
Teller: Press and hold the power button
As scary as it is, it would be a wonderful basis for a movie or game
Imagine you are apart of a high level SF unit. You get briefed that an organization had broken in in an attempt to detonate sundial
We discover that our star is going to die out so in an attempt to save all life, he build a upscale sundial and send it to were the sun should be right ass it gets ready to yk
(Could also just be lore for a ip, scientist were able to recolonize a system thought to be lost after the sun exploded by pretty much jumpstarting one with a hydrogen bomb big enough)
A bomb likes this blow up and the only people who are safe are those already in space (kinda of done in other concepts before but would be kool of my original idea is a game or a series. )The beginning would be a terrorist cult who researched and found out about sundial. For a while they preach to the end of the world is coming, and they rally believers… just no one was expecting the end of the world to come so soon, and for the cult to bring it on them selves.
If it’s a game, you could start of playing as like delta (or some future or more advanced equivalent) who has been put to guarding this just in case. No one thinks it’s what’s gonna happen but you can never be to sure. And it’s a good think you guys were because there is a massive attack on the facility holding sundial. It’s not looking to grim, intercom just announced the command center is being breached. You get there, see sum1 on controls and you drop him, but it’s too late, lights flash red and before you can figure out what to do… boom.
Camera switches to space, a station in orbit takes some rumbles, maybe the power flickers cuz of emp waves from bomb. People look out the window in horror as the world is over.
Not sure were it would go from there but just thinking
0:14 Genius or Stupid?
Pretty dumb if you ask me
Both, probably
Obviously Genius ...because you can't even make a single Bowl of Oats and he made a Weapon of mass destruction
It’s why I, and others say Warhammer 40K is a lot more plausible and realistic than Star Trek. It acknowledges our innately destructive human nature.
@@lgg052 Still, learning to make Oats is far much better than learning to destroy thyself!
it’s crazy that it’s so powerful, that it doesn’t even matter where it would explode.
even though it was never actually built, the possibility, that it could be created is already terrifying.
it’s basically a human made replica of a small star.
It does matter where it would explode, it just happens to be so powerful that any place on Earth is close enough
@@akeem2983 yeah, i meant specifically on earth. i just didn’t explicitly mention it because it was intended to be used on earth.
If it can be built, it will be built by someone at some point.
Not only that, the US keeps this confidential information… we still have such a super weapon’s blueprint-
@@mattmilford8106 building it would require incredible amount of money and resources. Usually at that point people with more strategic approach will plead for smaller weapons that keep winning side alive.
There was a point where both sides openly dreamed about doomsday devices. Fact is, people footing the bill are not suicidal.
9:10 I mean there are people who'd do it if their girlfriend broke up with them... Humanity doesn't have a great track record for rationality.
SS Tier Crashouts
It seems like we're somehow better at demolishing the entire planet than cleaning it up and making it pretty again
I'm so glad there is at least one major youtuber who talks about nuclear disarmament. It's slipped out of the mainstream consciousness so thank you for keeping making videos about it.
Remember the probability of nuclear war approaches 100% the longer we have them.
See: Metal Gear Solid
Yeah. Btw, talking about nuclear disarmament is the same as talking about disarmament. I barely see the last, so I don´t wonder why the first is uncommon
Nah, it doesn't, gamblers fallacy, actually if we would know the day of last nuclear weapons expiring then every day probability of nuclear war would decrease.
Nuclear race is funny cause it's basically a version of prisoner's dillemma, if no country builds a nuclear weapon - we all get conventional warfare, all the countries build nuclear weapons - we all get conventional warfare with a threat of nuclear attack, one country builds nuclear weapons while other do not - that country can delete any enemy by nuclear attack
And we will always have them, you think a country like north korea ever disarm their nukes?
Yeah, I’m all for talking about this, I guess I’ve just never seen an actual proposal on how to do this. I feel like the treaties made in the past between Russia and the US are all we have to go on.
As somebody who's been extensively reading about the cold war history for the past months, I must say, this is an excellent abridged version of the entire conflict, and I didn't even know much about the Project Sundial itself, so this is extremely interesting to find out about. Excellent description of what people in the first half of the 20th century might've experienced, the fastest advance of both technology and war prowess in history, from horses and tachankas to supersonic strategic bombers and weapons of inconcievable destruction that only science fiction writers could've imagined 50 years ago...
If you are into this topic, visit veritassium and search for game theory. Yes, it developed in times of the cold war
tell me something cool pls
According to my professor this project was planned for a good reason to be funded and built by the US and to be given to Israel, however sadly when JFK became a president didn't like the idea at all.
NOTE: Teller was the "Inspiration" for the fictionalized lead character in the Movie "Dr Strangelove" - played by the Great Peter Sellers 👍
Nope. It's Herman Kahn. If you watch the movie, note when Dr. Strangelove talks about the BLAND corporation. Kahn worked for RAND. Also they are visually similar and - of course - Kahn was the leading doomsday theorist - the job performed by Dr. Strangelove
Turns out it was the Americans planning to build the doomsday device. Probably the only people who could afford it.
@@toddheartsound5451 Not so much "nope" as "Actually, there were a bunch of people like that."
@@toddheartsound5451 it was an amalgamation of Teller and Wehrner von Braun, according to Sellers himself.
@@NextianGeometry nope is logically correct because that's not what he wrote ;)
The most dangerous kind of people, are those who are never satisfied.
12:31 *Thinks back to all the murdered birbs... 😢
OCH NO
Kurzgesagt situation is crazy???
Those are just the birbs in a simulations they are completely fine out side of the simulations
ב''ה, Warm Dead Bird
Great, now there's gonna be a War Thunder player that's gonna leak the entirety of Project Sundial on a discord server for the world to see
OH GOD NO
Just make sure it's in the game but portrayed unrealistically.
an E2 reservist
@@kaksspl T34 loses its tracks and looks at you dieing.
@@kaksspl "Somebody survived after I turned it on! Unrealistic!"
A couple years ago I bought the Immune book for my mother, who is immune-compromised. She went cover to cover on it and now keeps it as a more central part of her book collection. The way that you present information is simple, easy, and wonderful. I love seeing a new video pop up in my feed. It doesn't even matter what it's about, I already know I'll enjoy watching ^_^. You all are great!!
Oppenheimer: “Jesus Christ, what the fuck have I've done. This is something that should never been invented. My mistake will lead to consequences that will ascend beyond the very lines of the human condition.”
Teller: hehe annihilating device go brr